NCW talks New World Champions, Summer Slam, and Who Is The Greatest!

16 Jul 2026 · 1 h 29 min · 37 chapters

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In short

No Contest Wrestling returns after a week off, recapping Big3 basketball (including their experience at USC’s Galen Center) and then shifting to major wrestling news: CM Punk defeating Sami Zayn to become the new Undisputed WWE Champion, Cody Rhodes earning a SummerSlam title match vs Punk, and AEW’s Kenny Omega defeating MJF for the world title. They also discuss upcoming SummerSlam matches (Seth Rollins vs Roman Reigns; Punk vs Cody) and Hell in a Cell (Brock Lesnar vs Oba Femi), plus WWE/AEW title changes and storylines.

Guests

None. The episode is hosted by TJ (O’Shea Jackson Jr.) and O’Shea’s co-host/partner K.A. Petty Guerrero (TJ’s “tag team partner for CBS” and sideline reporter).

Key claims

Punk’s Chicago win makes him a dominant “world champion” figure; Cody’s jump/claim for the title match is surprising; Brock Lesnar vs Oba Femi feels like Brock’s final chapter; AEW’s title reigns are intentionally short to keep viewers engaged; MJF’s reign felt “transitional” but he’s still the best at marketing and mic work.

Notable examples

Big3’s coach “button” challenge with flames/smoke; Punk’s GTS on Sami; Cody’s “win” callback; AEW All In Wembley headline speculation (Omega vs Will Ospreay); Shida winning the TBS title; Judgment Day interference involving Liv/Rhea/Io and Roxanne/EO.

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Chapters

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Experiencing Big Three Basketball

1:35 to 4:00

The hosts discuss their recent experience attending a Big Three basketball game.

“But first and foremost, I got to say, man, I got to give you props.”

Meeting Legends at the Game

4:00 to 8:26

The hosts share stories about meeting Dr. J and Ice Cube at the Big Three event.

“And we had a packed house, you know, packed house.”

Meeting Legends at the Game

8:30 to 10:20

The hosts share stories about meeting Dr. J and Ice Cube at the Big Three event.

“Because if you guys don't know, my man here, my tag team partner for CBS, he is the sideline reporter.”

Rich Eisen's Podcast Appearance

10:24 to 14:00

The hosts reflect on Rich Eisen's kind words about their podcast on his show.

“But like I said, I wanted to touch on that.”

CM Punk's Title Victory

14:00 to 14:55

Discussion about CM Punk defeating Sami Zayn to become the new WWE champion.

“51 out of 52 ain't bad yeah man so that was really cool and like I said the right people know about us so that's pretty dope Yeah, the left people will find out later.”

Reflections on Title Lengths

14:55 to 18:35

Exploring the significance of championship reigns and historical context in wrestling.

“I think in between people either being happy or being mad about Sami's reign, what got lost in the fact that that was, I fairly enjoyed that match.”

Cody Rhodes' Championship Opportunity

18:35 to 21:43

Analyzing Cody Rhodes' path to a championship match at SummerSlam.

“And it's crazy because he's held both world championships in WWE this year, which is pretty amazing.”

Random Tangents and Confessions

21:43 to 23:14

A humorous tangent about a podcast confession involving a strange encounter.

“She just had to get her crack confession off.”

SummerSlam Excitement

23:14 to 24:29

Discussing the anticipation for the upcoming SummerSlam event and matches.

“So, yeah, so we're getting Seth Rollins against Roman Reigns for the World Heavyweight Championship.”

Wrestling Memories and Match Previews

24:29 to 28:00

Reminiscing about past SummerSlam events and previewing future matches.

“There was a period where like SummerSlam was only in Los Angeles.”
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Oba's Encounter with Fake Cops

28:00 to 28:31

Discussion on Oba's confrontation with people pretending to be police officers.

“And, you know, Oba's lucky he didn't go to jail this past Monday because he beat up like, you know, it's kind of like Eddie Murphy in Trading Places when he's in the jail cell.”

The Mind Games in Wrestling

28:31 to 30:38

Exploration of the mind games played in wrestling storylines and character transformations.

“Because the whole episode, I'm sitting there going, Ova's going to jail.”

Brock Lesnar's Legacy and Future

30:38 to 31:58

Speculation on Brock Lesnar's wrestling legacy and potential retirement.

“We're not going to get flagged for that.”

CM Punk's Transformation

31:58 to 35:10

Conversation about CM Punk's physical transformation and career comeback.

“You know, unfortunately or not, there's something about Brock Lesnar.”

Kenny Omega's Championship Run

35:10 to 36:24

Discussion on Kenny Omega's recent championship win and the implications for AEW.

“They took a picture of me after I had just finished working out.”

MJF as a Transitional Champion

36:24 to 37:12

Analysis of MJF's role as a transitional champion in AEW and his marketing.

“Now he's going to be And from what it looks like right now, he's going to be headlining all in in Wembley against Bruv Will Ospreay.”

MJF as a Transitional Champion

37:31 to 37:59

Analysis of MJF's role as a transitional champion in AEW and his marketing.

“But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back.”

MJF as a Transitional Champion

38:02 to 38:21

Analysis of MJF's role as a transitional champion in AEW and his marketing.

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AEW's Title Changes and Women's Championship

38:21 to 42:03

Discussion on recent title changes in AEW and the new TBS women's champion.

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New TBS Women's Champion and Commentary Insights

42:03 to 44:21

Discussion on the new TBS women's champion and commentary highlights.

“You know, speaking of title, we have a new TBS women's champion.”

Analysis of Recent Matches and Wrestler Dynamics

44:21 to 47:10

Breakdown of recent wrestling matches and wrestler interactions.

“I'm like, are you right there, Michael Cole?”

Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns: Mic Skills and Promos

47:10 to 52:48

Exploration of the mic skills and promo techniques of Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns.

“Seth pulled the sympathy card and his rebuttal.”

Fanatics Fest and Upcoming Wrestling Events

52:48 to 56:00

Discussion on the Fanatics Fest and excitement for upcoming wrestling events.

“Speaking of the plane, you're leaving in about an hour to go to New York for Fanatics Fest.”

Wrestling Fan Excitement

56:00 to 56:39

Discussion on the current excitement in the wrestling world.

“And I know there's going to be some head honchos there.”

Greatest Male Wrestler Debate

56:40 to 58:00

Choosing the greatest male wrestler of all time, featuring Ric Flair and Kurt Angle.

“to start it off with greatest male wrestler of all time.”

Greatest Female Wrestler Discussion

58:01 to 1:00:29

Debate over the greatest female wrestler, highlighting Asuka and Charlotte Flair.

“And yeah, some of the things you were speaking on, like the impact and everything, like I was thinking about Stone Cold and, you know, how Stone Cold really, I really feel like he beat somebody ass, you know?”

Greatest Female Wrestler Discussion

1:01:17 to 1:01:39

Debate over the greatest female wrestler, highlighting Asuka and Charlotte Flair.

Greatest Female Wrestler Discussion

1:02:03 to 1:02:15

Debate over the greatest female wrestler, highlighting Asuka and Charlotte Flair.

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Dream Match and Greatest Tag Team

1:02:16 to 1:05:48

Discussion on personal dream matches and the greatest tag teams, including the Road Warriors and Dudley Boys.

“It's so funny about your first answer because it matches my second answer.”

Greatest Faction and Favorite Matches

1:05:49 to 1:10:03

Debate on the greatest wrestling factions and personal favorite matches, featuring the Four Horsemen and Shinsuke Nakamura vs. AJ Styles.

“because I just had never seen a team that was built up like the Road Warriors.”

Wrestle Kingdom and Iconic Matches

1:10:03 to 1:11:29

Discussion on the impact of key wrestling matches, particularly Rock vs Hogan and Nakamura vs Styles.

“They really weren't able to replicate it when they met at WrestleMania.”

Underrated Female Wrestlers

1:11:30 to 1:14:00

Highlighting underrated female wrestlers, focusing on Gail Kim and her accomplishments.

“We go down memory lane and Rock lets Hogan, he gets his stuff off that at a certain point, you can tell when the cutoff happens.”

Jay Lethal and Male Underrated Talents

1:14:01 to 1:16:58

Discussion on Jay Lethal's career and why he deserves more recognition.

“And so I'm going to give her this role here.”

The Case for Dolph Ziggler

1:16:59 to 1:18:41

Exploring Dolph Ziggler's contributions and potential in wrestling despite his status.

“Now, for anybody who knows me knows, oh, this is where Shea is going to say Baron Corbin.”

Best Finishers in Wrestling

1:18:42 to 1:20:26

Debate on the best wrestling finishers, highlighting the one-winged angel and RKO.

“Kenny Omega's one-winged angel is pretty much the most protected finish in the history of wrestling.”

Creating a New Wrestling Faction

1:20:27 to 1:23:54

Conceptualizing a new female wrestling faction, discussing members and their roles.

“I thought about going Sweet Chin Music just because I think about, when I think about a finisher, it needs to be devastating.”

Fantasy Wrestling Factions and Social Engagement

1:24:01 to 1:26:26

Explore creative wrestling faction ideas and engage with the audience on social media.

“I saw Javon Evans with his post the other day talking about, I'm tired of losing.”
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Transcript

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0:26O'Shea:I-O, let's go!

0:35O'Shea:ladies and gentlemen welcome to another Wednesday episode of the no contest wrestling podcast TJ the most underappreciated podcast there is man underappreciated by some but by others by all y 'all we know you love us but I am the heel that you love to hate O'Shea Jackson Jr. K.A. Petty Guerrero Hey, yo, it's me, it's me. It's the T-double-O, the J-I-double-G, T-J-G-E, T-J-Jefferson. And listen, it's been a long time. We shouldn't have left you without some note contest to step to. But we're back, baby. We are back after a week off. You know what I'm saying? We took a vacation. It wasn't necessarily because of us.

1:18It was because everyone in the studio. You know, it's summertime. It's July. People got things to do. Things to do, something to catch, all of that, bro. So, yeah, we were off last week, but happy to be back. Happy to be talking to y 'all. And while we were gone, some big things happened. A couple new championships. A couple. A couple new championships, I say. Furthering of SummerSlam playing. So let's get into all of that. But first and foremost, I got to say, man, I got to give you props. You and your family props. This past Sunday, I went to the Big Three at the Galen Center on USC's campus.

1:55I've seen many. Obviously, I've seen many Big Three games on television. but this is the first time that I've ever been in attendance for one. And, yeah, man.

2:03O'Shea:Well, you saw some good ones, too. Yeah. They all were close. A lot of close games, a lot of good games. You know, the format of Big 3 and everything is great. And just wanted to give props, man, because, you know, you're going to go there, you're going to see a bunch of players that you have heard of and seen before. There's also a group of players, people that you've probably never heard of before. But what it is is just half court, three on three, really good, really competitive basketball. Yeah. And thank you for the ticket. It was great, man. I'd been wanting to see Big Three for a while, and it didn't disappoint.

2:36And so, yeah, it was definitely a good show on Sunday.

2:40O'Shea:Yeah, you know, Big Three is always, you got to go. Just like, you know, most sporting events. When you go, you get a real feel of the event, really. And it's a special thing to Big Three. we've come a long way you know in the beginning I remember when people told my father that it wouldn't last five years some even got on TV and said it wouldn't last three here we are season nine and it's all because of the support of the fans and everybody who wants to see Big 3 basketball and you know we got to do it at Galen Center which was special for me because you know that's at USC USC's arena and it was a little bit of my house, you know, territory going on.

3:27O'Shea:My man Elijah Stewart plays for our Dallas Power. He's a former Trojan. Let's say former Trojan, but you're always a Trojan. Nick Young. Nick Young, coach of the L.A. Riot. He's a Trojan. DeMar DeRozan came through. Tyler Halliburton was in the building, but not a Trojan. Right, but yeah, Tyler. The same colors. I think he went to Iowa State. But, like, yeah, so it was a special time. Shout out to Tyrese. Tyrese Halliburton showed up for James Johnson, who plays for the DMV trilogy. It's a good time, man. It's a good time. It really was. Family's out there. And we had a packed house, you know, packed house.

4:06O'Shea:So it was, yeah, it was some great games. And you got to chop it up with the dark. Yeah. You know, before I get to that, it's, you know, you realize, man, to have success in the big three, I think it's about size. because guard play is nice, but the teams that do well have some big cats on the team. And then you also forget how big these men are, right? Right. Because I'm 6 '3", so I'm tall compared to almost every normal person. But, you know, you get on that quarter, close to that quarter, and you see, like, Steve Nash and Tony Parker are 6 '2", 6 '3", and they look like little fellas. Right.

4:45You know what I mean? But, yeah, you know, all in all, it was great. My favorite part, when the coaches contest a play to hit the button, what's the button? Bring the fire. Bring the fire. So if you want to challenge a play, you hit a button, like flames shoot out, lights go red, smoke starts billowing, and then it's a one-on-one situation where coaches pick two players that go one-on-one, and the guys, if someone scores, you get the point. If you don't score, you don't get the point. It's just little things that set your league apart. The four-point play, obviously, that's great. didn't see me and your boy roman were talking we didn't see enough four yeah yeah the last week

5:22O'Shea:though oh my god my man pargo hit four right yes but yeah it was it was great and then you know every every time out during halftime you know your pops was sitting um ice cube was sitting three rows in front of me and then just like fans would all converge behind him and he would stand there smile take pictures now you like i said you know i've got this weird thing about your dad because I was a kid listening to them. So I'm looking at this smiling man, and it's always like, that's not the figure that I've always grown up with. But like you said, it's like, what, you think he just frowns in the house all the time?

5:55But it was great to kind of see him, and I'm assuming he was literally enjoying himself, enjoying the fans who were flocking to talk to him and get a picture or an autograph or just to say hi. And that was really, really dope to see him being, you know just celebrated for what he's done for the big three and everyone in there to bring us this entertainment so it was really cool to um to just watch that as an old school ice cube fan like i i've told you bro like i have a 10 minute drive to work every day and this morning i three your dad songs came randomly not even because i was trying to play cube they just randomly came on as i was driving to work so it was dope but i kind of i like to consider myself someone who's kind of cool for as weird as that sound but after the after the last game Chicago won Dr.

6:52J is Chicago's coach and if you know anything about me or if you ever see me on the Rich Eisen show I've got this huge Dr. J poster behind my desk he is your GOATS LeBron other people's GOATS are Jordan or you know Kobe not your GOATS LeBron but people's got their own GOATS but like Dr. J is mine from the time I was probably four years old, you know? So, you know, you made sure that he and I got to chop it up really quickly because he was busy. I didn't want to take up too much of his time.

7:20O'Shea:Not to celebrate with his team. Yeah, you know, so I got a picture with Dr. J, and then, you know, we're in the back hanging out, and I turn and I look down the hall, and here comes your pops with an entourage. And Ice Cube, the man I've grown up listening to, he sees me and he's like, hey, man, what's up? And at that moment, I was not cool. Because what do you say? It's Ice, it's Cube, right? So I'm like, he tapped me up, and I was inside. I'm like, abba-dabba-dabba-dabba. Luckily, I don't know, because you can tell me really how I acted at that moment. But, yo, I was, you know, I've only met your pops a few times, and each time I'm just like, ah.

7:57So, yeah, that was cool. And it still blows me away that Cube knows my name.

8:02O'Shea:Yeah, he saw you and was like, hey, you know, because I didn't tell him he was coming. So he was pleasantly surprised. He was like, hey, man, I'll damp you up. Yeah, I was like, and I think I said this was great. Congratulations. Like I said, man, it's like, you know, I was not cool in that moment, folks. And I'm going to admit that to you. I was not cool. But between, you know, I was still on the Dr. J thing, and then your pops came by. So it was just like, ugh. But, yeah, so I just wanted to give Big Three a shout. I'll give you a shout out. Because if you guys don't know, my man here, my tag team partner for CBS, he is the sideline reporter.

8:37Come on, man. I got many hats. During breaks in the action, you know, let's go down to O'Shea. And so it was really cool to see you in that element, get to see you get to do that. Yeah. You know, and yeah.

8:50O'Shea:Yeah, you know, last year Pops brought me on for two games, you know, two games. He was like, you know, I just want you, I want to kind of like liven it up a little bit on TV. And, you know, he'd tell me that. That's all I need to hear. And so it was like, all right, I can just go. and yeah, apparently when we started this season CBS asked my dad would your son be willing to do some more games? Oh, word. And he was like alright, which ones you want them to do? Whatever ones you want to do. So I'll just be tagging along. And this upcoming Sunday we will be in the Chicago area. So we will be in Chicago.

9:30O'Shea:Make sure you check us out. You know, look on big3.com slash tickets for tickets. because we are coming to Chicago this Sunday. Dr. J being the coach of Chicago, it's going to be a nice home game for them. They are undefeated, so everybody in the Chicago area, your team is undefeated, all right? Y 'all in first place, like, come support. Come check us out. That's big3.com slash tickets. We don't have a graphic because they didn't know I was going to do this. Yeah, but, yeah, so, again, seriously, if you get a chance, if you ever get a chance to go see Big 3, I'm assuming the tickets are reasonably priced.

10:02Oh, yeah. I ain't have to pay. We're family. We're family. But that's the thing, bro. The kids were having a good time. And respectfully, respectfully, the big three and the monster. The monster girls? Yeah, respectfully. If you get a chance, all I'm saying is go see the big three.

10:20O'Shea:By the way, Shay sitting here is brought to you by Monster Energy. Monster Energy, unleash the beast. So, yeah, we did that business. But like I said, I wanted to touch on that. But, man, also some big stuff for us happened. on Stephanie McMahon's podcast, Rich Eisen. Man! Rich Eisen was on. That Richard said Eisen. And if you get a chance, go check out Stephanie McMahon and Elisa's podcast. What's your story? What's your story with Rich? You know, O'Shea has been on as well, but Rich Eisen was on the, I think Punk is on the newest episode. Rich is on the one before that. Right before Punk. And if you guys just go take a look at that, around the 48, 49 minute mark, Rich brings up how we started No Contest Wrestling, and it was really humbling to hear the good, just amazing things he had to say about us.

11:08And then Stephanie McMahon had some cool stuff to say about you and I. Like, I get it because she's met you. But, like, she said, TJ blows me away. And I was like, wait, what? Like, how does she even get to know you? You know, sit in a room with you.

11:25O'Shea:You did it from afar. But, like, Stephanie McMahon doesn't know me. Of course, I've been aware of her for the last 30 years. So when I heard that and the good things she said about me and you and this pod, it was just, it was, like I said, it was kind of humbling and it was really cool. And sometimes I'll admit this, sometimes I'll look at like maybe like a YouTube video and go, man, we should have more views than this. I don't understand why. But I realized something, man, like the right people know about us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so that kind of, her saying that literally flipped my mindset because maybe not everybody knows yet, but the right people know now.

12:00and that's only going to help us go forward but so just thank you to to rich and stephanie and

12:05O'Shea:elise for having nice things to say yeah it felt you know it felt nice i i sent it to my mom but uh yeah it's it's always good to have that um to be seen you know to like have the we know what type of dedication we put to our craft you know and if that's what you call it because at the end of the day we we just wanted to have a platform where it felt like you're kicking it with some friends talking wrestling because that is what we do like that is what we were doing before we had a show a lot of shows are you know we're not trying to sway your way of thinking uh unless it's like it's not the end of the world but other shows are you know might be a little aggressive on one side or or want to be looming doom and tell you why the product is this that and the third and you know we just want to just talk about it start a conversation you know have these superstars on here and let them feel like not only superstars but homies yeah and like that i think is where people resonate with us the most and to hear rich describe us so eloquently it just felt like oh yeah we are doing that on purpose yep so uh thank you rich uh we appreciate you you never take the compliments well but man we are very grateful for rich and for everybody who appreciates the pot we read every comment you know we're not gonna act like we don't and uh yeah we see you guys exactly we see you guys we appreciate you guys and we're gonna keep doing our thing as long as there is wrestling that's the best thing about our job all these other podcasts they got off seasons right we hear every week except for last week shut up 51 out of 52 ain't bad yeah man so that was really cool and like I said the right people know about us so that's pretty dope Yeah, the left people will find out later.

14:13And now into, I guess, the biggest wrestling news. You know, last time we talked, Sami Zayn was the undisputed WWE champion. And we were making statements. And then we blinked. We were making claims that, like, hey, man, don't take it away from him so quick. Let him have a chance to defend it. Let's, you know, have some good wrestling matches. And then, unfortunately. Oh, damn. Yeah. I didn't know you was going to throw the static at him. Static, you know. Next thing you know. In Chicago. Chicago, Chicago, we have and new because CM Punk defeated Sami Zayn. And he is now. He's hairy like animal.

14:49He is now the new undisputed WWE champion. And that was a really good match, by the way. Yeah. I think in between people either being happy or being mad about Sami's reign, what got lost in the fact that that was, I fairly enjoyed that match.

15:06O'Shea:Yeah. I think Mick Foley held it for five days one time or something crazy like that. I think what I understand, Mick Foley had three title rings, right? Yeah. I think they totaled 39 days, if I'm not mistaken. So, you know, it happens, right? It happens. No one's, but nobody, and I could be wrong, but no one's questioning the length, but they do remember. You know, they remember the Tony Schiavone comment about that'll put butts in seats and then everyone turning the channel to watch Mick. You don't remember how long he held it. You just remember what happened when he won and that legendary pop.

15:41Yeah, Sammy held the belt. Man, they got it three times. Three times. Sammy had it for nine days, but you know what? Roddy Piper never held that belt. Ricky Steamboat never held that belt. Rick Rue never held that belt. Jake Roberts never held that belt. Rick Rue probably deserved to, for sure, for sure. Ken Patera never held that belt. You know, Junkyard Dog never held that belt.

16:01O'Shea:Yeah. So Owen Hart never held that belt. So, yeah, the nine days, it was short. But like we said, it's on his resume. Yeah, man. I mean, from what I saw, he took a lot of pictures. He did the most with it, right? Yeah, as he should. He did the most with it. As he should. And it's CM Punk. Like, when people started to put together the last thing he said to Cody, which was, I'm going to stay ready because you never know when a championship opportunity is going to fall out the sky. And we were all like, what is that? Yeah, what the hell? What the hell could he mean by that? Get your Chicago ass out of here.

16:40O'Shea:And then all of a sudden, we come back in Chicago. And that was the thing. Cody gets jumped. Hold on, because even before that, we was like, why the hell are we defending the SmackDown belt on Raw? Right. It's like something didn't add up. Yeah, man. It's because Raw's in Chicago. I should have told us right there. Yeah. Because Raw's in Chicago. Yeah. oh should it like that math should have mapped right there so as an episode starts you know you you have sammy and and cody kind of squaring up yeah gunther comes in just you know bum rushes cody puts him out now cody can't go instant uh ear blood yeah right cody can't go sammy's like all right well i'm gonna head i'm gonna go back to smackdown we'll figure out here and they're like nope you got it which i don't know i don't know why we promised chicago a match why pierce should be able to do that to Sammy.

17:32That's not his champion. But anyway, we kind of knew at that moment, right? He kind of had to understand what was going to happen. Come on, Doc. And then, you know, the elephant doors lifted up, and there he was. I was like, here he go. Craig Montgomery Punk, man.

17:46O'Shea:He Michael Jackson at the Super Bowl with this pose. And it was such a like he can't lose right now. No. Are you crazy? Not in Chicago. Man. And also, I love that they always pull the, you know he lives right by the arena. He's just really at the crib like, oh, man, let me get up. That is hilarious. Like my 10-minute drive to work. Yeah, like, oh, man, I need somebody. Baby, I'm about to be, I'm going to work. Hold up a second, AJ. Yeah, like, man. But yeah, man, Punk, you know, he shows up, the elephant door lifts, and then, you know, people lose their mind. And then the music hits, and he comes out, and he does his thing.

18:27and put Sami Zayn, hits him with the GTS, one, two, three, and for the eighth time, CM Punk is the world champion. And it's crazy because he's held both world championships in WWE this year, which is pretty amazing. First one ever to do. First one. So, you know, and then we find out he and Cody now the following week, you know, Cody stepped up. He said, when I was champion, I told you just say when, and Punk was like, win. Win. That was dope. Jump. So now we're getting those two championship match at SummerSlam in Minneapolis, Minnesota. But you just got to wonder, how'd Cody, how was he? No. No beef on Cody because you know we're fans.

19:11Yeah, right. But how'd you just get to jump? You weren't the champion. Yeah, dog. So how'd you just get to jump over Sammy and Gunther? Yeah, the people who just, like, come on, bro. To get yourself a championship match. That's kind of wild. I can understand why Sammy was crashing out. I can understand why Gunther is justifiably upset.

19:30O'Shea:Cody saw Seth come out and tell Roman, you know people have been dying to see this, you know what's got to happen, and said, aha, I'm going to do just that. Play off that nostalgia a little bit. Nostalgia is the most powerful drug in the world, man. It's good, man. That's some good dope. Well, I hear crack is good, but I was. Hold on. Why was I watching Random Tangent? by the way people said that they love our random side combo i was watching this pod um i forget the name of it but i'm actually i was watching it because i'm about to go on it in a month or so to uh promote uh idiots in theaters august 28th check it out but um yeah it's like this pod where people call into a number they drop a confession and then they dip Like they don't wait for you to answer them or nothing.

20:21O'Shea:They just drop the confession and then they tune in to see what you're going to say. And this girl said, she said, yeah, like I was with my ex and, you know, he told me that he like needed some closure. And so, you know, I got in his car and, you know, he starts driving me into the middle of this field, like far from town. in the middle of a field, locks the doors, pulls out a pipe and goes, listen.

20:57O'Shea:Hold on. He goes, listen. You gonna smoke this crack. Sorry. What? You gonna smoke this crack or I'm not taking you back to town. And then she hung up the phone. What? No, she's in the car. We said they drop a confession and then they hang up. No, no. This is her whole confession. He pulls out a pipe and goes, you're going to smoke this crack or I'm not taking you back to town.

21:29She then smokes the crack.

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21:33O'Shea:This is a crazy conversation. She smokes the crack and they start having a talk. But then she's like, my friend called me and he could tell that I was a little off. Something was weird. and so like I gave the phone to my ex and he finally convinced him to drive him back to drive me back to town he drives me back to town and then uh yeah right before I get off the car he goes well do you still want to go get tattoos because we were supposed to go get tattoos because it was Friday the 13th then she said then I was like yeah I do want to get the tattoo so like I got back in the car and then we went to go get tattoos and so like I got Rick from Rick and Morty on my arm and Every time I look at it, I think, that's the day I smoked crack.

22:18O'Shea:And that was the story. That was it. She just had to get her crack confession off. Great. How about that, folks? Sometimes you'll need to share everything. You know what I mean? Some things are better left on the same. What type of gusto you got to have to be like, hey, you're going to smoke this crack? Let me tell you something about me you might not know, Joe Rogan. I smoke rock. I saw him sleep in my car high off crack. That's impossible, Rhonda. How could you be asleep and be high on crack? Sorry, guys. Random tangent. Shout out to the Chappelle Show. Yes, sir. But yeah, so Cody saw that Seth promo and was like, oh, I can run that.

23:00O'Shea:I can run that on Punk. Ran it on Punk, and now we getting two little dream matches. Yeah. Two dream matches for SummerSlam, and somebody going to have a nightmare. Uh-huh. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I think both should retain. I mean, they probably will retain. Yeah, they should. So, yeah, so we're getting Seth Rollins against Roman Reigns for the World Heavyweight Championship. We're getting Cody Rhodes against CM Punk for the Undisputed WWE Championship. Both should retain. I got to be honest, man. I'm so looking forward to both of these matches. I can't front. You and I have decided we are going to be in the house.

23:41We're going. You know, Seth, as the last time we were here, I told everybody he was guest hosting the Rich Eyes and show the very next day on Thursday. I told him, bro, if I got to like hide myself underneath your bus and take the ride, I'm being in Minnesota.

23:57O'Shea:Yeah, bro, we got to go, dog. It's like, I know it's Vikings colors, but everything's Laker colors. Like, I got to go, man. You would think so. I got to go. Fest Pool. That's the name of the pod. Fest Pool? Fest. Like confessional pool. Oh, okay. Fest pool. Yeah, man. Shout out to Arasha. But yeah, dude. I got to go to that SummerSlam. I don't think I've ever been to a SummerSlam. And it's my favorite PLE. It's weird because remember SummerSlam for about in the mid-aughts. No, the early, I guess, yeah. The mid-aughts probably from like 2008 to maybe like 11. There was a period where like SummerSlam was only in Los Angeles.

24:34Bro. So how did you not go to any of those?

24:36O'Shea:I don't know, man. I think I was probably going through my weird phrase. It was a weird time in wrestling where I was like, I don't like nobody here. It was like a couple of standouts, but it wasn't like my religion, like how it used to be back. And I was such a big rock guy. Rock wasn't around. Rock took his time off. But yeah, around. That's crazy that I was just here all the time. No, there's no way it went five years and I didn't go to a SummerSlam. I'm looking up. So SummerSlam has been held in Los Angeles a total of six times. All of these events took place at Staples Center 2009, 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14.

25:20Yeah. All of them were at Staples? Yep.

25:23O'Shea:There's no way I missed one. There's no way. So actually, I had to have been at a SummerSlam. Especially because I was in college. Yeah, there's like no way you didn't go. No, there's no way. So I'll take that back. I've definitely been to a SummerSlam. I just didn't take pictures. But, yeah, I'm excited for this one. I love in my adult age that I could just, like, get on a plane whenever I want. Because you got adult money. Yeah, you know, just like, oh, where's wrestling? I want to go. What a time to be alive. So, I just, you know, I'm just looking at my phone now. I'm just trying to, because we didn't plan on talking about this, so I'm jogging my memory.

25:54Yeah, 2009, I was there. Took place at Staples Center. Rey Mysterio defeated Dolph Ziggler for the IC title. MVP, wrestled Jack Swagger. Jericho. Remember Jericho? Oh, wow. Tag team champions versus Crime Time for the Unified Tag Team Championship. Crime Time. Jericho, once in peace. Shout out to Shad. Kane versus the Great Khali. DX faced Legacy in a tag team match. You know, let's talk about Khali. Let me just finish this real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Christian was the ECW champion, and he defeated William Riegel. Oh, yes, this is this time. Randall Kaye was the champion. He defeated the WWE champion.

26:33He defeated Cena, and then CM Punk defeated Jeff Hardy for the world title in a TLC match. And I remember that specifically because Punk won. The lights went dark. He's standing over Hardy, and then the lights came back on, and The Undertaker is now right where Hardy was. I watched this on TV.

26:51O'Shea:I remember because this is when I hated CM Punk. So, yeah, I was in the building for that. I could not. Bro, when I'm like, God is hilarious. like he has the funniest jokes because when i say i hated punk bro because you were a hardy guy right and like jeff not supposed to be winning these world titles so when i see him winning it who is always there cm punk it seemed like cm punk just had a vendetta against jeff hardy holding a title. And like, man, I couldn't stand Punk forever. And then when Rock finally came back, it was like, oh, thank goodness. But now that's my buddy. That's my dude. Text him right now.

27:38O'Shea:I bet you won't.

27:42Talk to me like that. I'm just saying. So yeah, we're getting two world championship matches. And then of course, you know, what's probably going to kick off either night one or night two because you know he doesn't wrestle in the middle of the card at the end of the card. We're going to get a hell in a cell between Brock Lesnar and Oba Femi. And, you know, Oba's lucky he didn't go to jail this past Monday because he beat up like, you know, it's kind of like Eddie Murphy in Trading Places when he's in the jail cell. He's like, not cop, man, cops. Six, seven cops beat up six.

28:18Because that is what Oba did. Now we come to find out at the end of the show that those weren't really cops. It was just people pretending to be cops. And I hate that Pierce was like, trying to play mind games.

28:29O'Shea:Pierce was like, by the way, it's not real. It's all mind games. See, I take the flip side of that. Okay. Because I'm glad he said it. Because the whole episode, I'm sitting there going, Ova's going to jail. Tonight! You're just assaulted cops! He got to go to jail, and I don't like it. So I was prepared for Ova to go to jail. maybe Pierce then I was like well maybe Pierce or grease some palms but no we find out they weren't real cops they weren't real cops they were pretend cops and if you know anything about wrestling and situations and storylines and you know segments like that where they use fake security or fake cops there's always gonna be one of those guys who's gonna turn out to be like an IC champion or a world champion so one of those six dudes that just pizza tossed out the ring one of you guys is gonna hold gold in WWE at some point in your career.

29:19And you got that going for you. But also, I want them jailed.

29:24O'Shea:It is illegal to impersonate a police officer. You know what? I never even thought about it. I want their asses under the jail. Alright? A crime is a crime. You know what, Shea Jackson? That's a very good point. You can't do that. You can't impersonate a police officer. No, I'm sure the GD law? The GD law! Alright? Yeah, I'm not playing, bro. I watch Law and Order. stories. I watched that. Doink, doink. Doink, doink. I watched Perry Mason with my grandpa back in the day and I'm pretty sure... Ain't that a football player? No, he might have been. Perry Mason? No, he was a TV lawyer, though. Probably thinking about the refrigerator.

30:05O'Shea:Oh, that's Roy and Perry, but... Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. But yeah, you know, Oba pizza tossed six cops out the ring and... He threw the hell out there. And then he was basically like, who are you? This is not the beast I know. Sucker. Yeah. Yo, B-A-N? Yeah. Yup. You used to run this place. Don't say it. Yeah. He's like, that's the beat. You need the beat. Now you're just doing all this running. Sucker ass. Yeah. Used to be the Don Juan. Now your name is just Tuan. Tuan. Come on now. Tuan. And you know what? I know we keep saying this. We're not going to get flagged for that.

30:41No, no, no.

30:42O'Shea:I'll talk to my mom. Thank you. But yeah, Brock Lesnar. loves Oba. This is like, I think we're all, we kind of knew this early on, right? But it's so evident now. You're like, where are your mean face? All you're doing is just like. That Brock, I think, picked his successor and he's very happy with his choice. You know what I mean? So, Hell in a Cell, Brock Oba. I want to say, I'm going to say it. I think this really is it for Brock Lesnar. Yeah, game, set, match. I think this is it. I think, you know, the Wrestlemania thing was obviously a decoy and I gotta give Stephen Amell a shout out on that because at Wrestlemania while you and I were going Brock is done Stephen Amell was like I don't know if I believe it I'm like what do you mean you don't believe it I don't care that really happened alright he took his gloves off and his boots up all the way you were why and by the way Baywatch is coming back Stephen Amell is playing the David Hasshoff role he's gonna be a guest on no contest right around the time before Baywatch comes out so we'll get to talk about Baywatch with him And also, you know, he's been in the ring.

31:48He's done, you know, he and Punk work together on his Netflix series Heels. So he's also mixed it up with Cody. So, yeah, we're going to have him on at some point. But, yeah, I do believe this is it. You know, unfortunately or not, there's something about Brock Lesnar. Whether you're a fan or not, there's the aura that you just can't replicate with many people on the planet Earth, right? So, yeah, I think this is based upon things I've heard. And I guess my own personal beliefs. I think this is probably going to be it.

32:22O'Shea:Just because I thought I heard my phone ring. I thought Punk was calling. I was like, oh. I got real excited for a second. I sent him a voice memo while I was watching Raw. And I was like, dude, are you at Raw? Is this about to be you? He texted me after the show and goes, best in the world.

32:48O'Shea:You're a monster. What is your problem? Of course, after he wins, he's in the ring and he looks at the camera and tells AJ I'll be home in 20 minutes. No, you're not. You got photos. No, you're not. You're a bunch of... I mean, I know it's gotta be especially because he's had eight but winning the title in your hometown is like, I'm gonna sit with this a little bit. You know, a little bit. And let's give him a shout-out, man. The physical transformation punk's gone over. He's put on, I'd say, what, a solid 10 pounds of muscle, maybe 15. He comes out looking brolic. Yeah, he's solid. It's the lighting.

33:24But I think also it was good for him, too, Shay, because he went a solid, even though he's been back like three, four years now, he went a solid 10 years with having to put bumps. They always say, we always hear wrestlers say, you get so many bumps on your car, right? He got to go a full decade without putting his body through that. So, yeah, he's a little bit older now, but he doesn't have that wear and tear. Yeah, he doesn't have the wear and tear that he would have had.

33:49O'Shea:So at the Big Three, I interviewed Julius Ervin and Gary Payton together. I saw you. And I asked him. I seen it. I was like, all right, so you both, you know, you guys are part of the 50 greatest players, you know. and you guys were stars of your respected teams. You guys have taken over a lot of games. Now that, you know, they always talk about star players can't be coaches. Yeah. And so as coaches, do you guys ever, like, get the itch or just like, man, I wish I could just show them, you know, what I'm trying to tell them? Yeah, yeah. I said, hell no. Dr. J said, listen, I'm glad I don't got to do all that running no more, man.

34:35O'Shea:He said, I used to watch games, and I used to get, my palms used to start sweating because I want to, you know, I just want the ball. I just want to, you know. Once that sweating stopped while I was watching basketball, I knew my time is up. Punk was able to take 10 years away, 10 years off, resting maybe in a hot tub here and there. I don't know what they do in Chicago. Chicago is cold, you know? But the dude is feeling great. The best he's felt in who knows how long. And he's out here yoking up. Everybody online want to say that, you know, he looked like he was just about to come in as some tank.

35:14O'Shea:I text him. I was like, bro, what's going on, man? You changed your regimen? What's happening? He was like, no, dude. It was just after a pump. They took a picture of me after I had just finished working out. Every muscle in the world looks huge after that. And, yeah, I just didn't want to tell his business because I just let the internet think what they want to think sometimes. But, yeah, the dude is looking great. He's there. Right after the match, he went and did a workout with, I think he was with Chad Gable in the training. Yeah, Undisputed Champion. And I think people need to see him as Undisputed Champion for a minute.

35:48Yeah, I don't, I mean, respect to Cody. I don't feel like this Punk reign is going to last. Not Punk's reign. rain. You see it? When you think rain, you think rain. I don't think this punk rain is going to end anytime soon is what I'm saying. I wouldn't be surprised if maybe

36:05O'Shea:definitely not August 1st. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this carries over maybe in the mania. Yeah. Yeah, looking forward to Seth Roman, Punk, Cody. Also on the other side, on AEW, we got a new world's champion. Yeah, buddy. Kenny Omega defeated MJF in a hell of a match. Now he's going to be And from what it looks like right now, he's going to be headlining all in in Wembley against Bruv Will Ospreay. And let me tell you something. That's going to be a banger of a match, bro. Can I just say this?

36:43Because when Sammy won, everybody kept throwing that word transition.

36:50O'Shea:Can we talk about MJF a little bit? Let's do it. Like, dude, I feel like they just have been giving it to him to give to somebody else for a little bit. And then they give it back to him and give it to someone. Like, that dude is probably the best transitional champion in the game right now. The way that they market him. I love me some MJF. I've had, you know, small conversation with the man before. But I was just like, huh, why did you take it off? I would have loved to see Darby and Kenny go at it. That would have been bad. But then, like, you need, when you got an ultimate good guy like Kenny, you need an ultimate bad guy like MJF.

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38:24O'Shea:But it just felt like, damn, what the hell, you gave me the belt back for it then? Yeah. It just felt kind of quick for me, for my taste as an MJF fan. It felt a little transitional. Your thoughts? I hate that word. Yeah, you know, I'm going to keep it real with you, man. Keep it a buck. I don't necessarily have inside sources, but I know someone who told me it's always to do with inside sources that say something like that I really don't but I do have someone who I know who's very much in the know in AEW and around Wrestlemania weekend I was having a conversation with this person not going to say who obviously and I kept my word to not say anything but he basically told me back in April the next four or five moves that we're going to go on with AEW in regards to Darby and MJF and Kenny and Will.

39:18And I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't mention any of it because of being a man of my word. I'm like, I'm not going to say this. But almost everything that he told me was going to happen has happened. So every title match, every title change, every move that's going on has not really been surprising because I was told this is the way they're going to go with it. I can't say we because he doesn't work for them. But yeah, so I kind of knew. And I kept my mouth shut for the most part. But I did. When Dynamite started that day, I just simply from our account wrote, Kenny is winning the title tonight.

39:54And it was just like, people looked at it as like just me shooting the shutter guess. But it turned out that's what I was told. I didn't say anything for the longest time. And I knew that not that many. For some reason, our Twitter doesn't get. the show Twitter doesn't get as much engagement as your individual Twitter so I knew that many people wouldn't see it anyway but yeah Kenny Omega got the win over MJF and now he's gonna be presumably headlining this all in you never know because look if you wanna give me MJF and Osprey and Omega and a triple threat take the money imaginary or real right like if you wanna make it a triple threat I'm watching if you don't wanna make it a triple threat I'm still gonna watch but Omega and Ospreay is going to be a match for the ages is that a

40:41O'Shea:do you look at that as a torch passing moment possibly depends you know it's like because why put the belt on Kenny Omega if you're going to like that but we've been seeing it in both companies we hate the transitional word we hate the short reign but AEW is giving you a short one WWE is giving you a short one I'm still tripping off of like it just felt like ever since Swerve lost the title it's been kind of quick little reigns everybody's had kind of a quick little reign you know MTF had a long reign but that was his first reign years ago yeah because I remember just being so upset when Swerve lost I was so upset every title after that I've been like oh why do we have to take it off Swerve why do we have but like it's just how they do things over there It makes you have to watch.

41:37O'Shea:Samoa Joe, that was another one when I was kind of a quick one. And so it's just like you always got to be paying attention over there, and you got to respect them for it because it keeps you on your toes as a model. Yeah, and also you're going to get one of the best matches that they've had on, I don't want to say a random Dynamite, but on a Dynamite Wednesday show. Like not a pay-per-view for them. So yeah, that does kind of make you want to make sure you don't miss any AEW action. because they could happen anytime. Ain't nobody safe. Yeah, no title safe. You know, speaking of title, we have a new TBS women's champion.

42:13That is Shida, Hikaru Shida. And Shida, man, three times I think she was the women's champion. She's just, I love her. I think she's great.

42:24O'Shea:Me and my sister call that the hose belt, and it's not because it's the women's belt. But, like, sometimes when you look at the TBS logo, It looks like it says HOS. I've never thought about that. I'll show you a pic. But like, does this say ho? I was like, no, this is TBS. She goes, oh. Yeah. They might know, they might want to rethink that. We got to switch this up a little bit. Put some capital letters in here. Also got to give a shout out to my girl, Tecla. She did, she was on commentary for a gauntlet match. That is your girl, Tecla. She is just phenomenal. Yeah. She's incredible. She made you make that noise just now.

42:59and she's so she's like Roxanne to me they're both little and mean little and mean Roxanne it was the moment it was on Raw Roxanne and EO I put Roxanne versus EO don't disturb me it was the moment where I was like

43:23O'Shea:are y 'all mad at each other hold on Yeah. Like, bro, it was a couple of hits where, like, because, like, the thing is with EO and Asuka, you got to be on your toes because, like, they might just go for it. Well, because they, the way they learn how to wrestle there is Joshi. Yeah, bro. Okay. And Roxanne might like that type stuff because, like, it looked a little, it was a couple of bumps where I was like, ooh. Yeah. A little rough. And also, shout out to Zebra Cake. So Ruka getting thrown into that wall. Let's talk about the fact that Raquel caught her. Hi, Raquel. Catches her. The way she caught her.

44:04Yeah. All back. Sturdied herself. Yeah. And then blasted and then lifted her up in a power bomb type move and then busted her into the apron. Or not the apron, but still closed. Yo. Can we check on Soul? Right. And no one did. Michael Cole's like, yeah, somebody needs to look at Soul. I'm like, are you right there, Michael Cole? Yeah, bro. Get your ass up. I'm like, bro, that's about to say no. But you know There's some predictability Somebody on Twitter literally wrote Word for word Bar for bar I think a day before A couple hours before what was going to happen You're like EO and Roxanne are going to wrestle And then the Judgment Day is going to come in And Saul's going to come on hover But they're going to be three on two And then the Judgment Day is going to stand tall Without anything done to them And somebody tweeted this out And that's exactly how it happened EO you know.

44:56Waiting over Kara

44:57O'Shea:honestly. Waiting over Kara, waiting on Rhea, but like Rhea's watching Jack Swagger get knocked out of Slapbox and I don't know when she's coming back. Stephanie, where is Stephanie? We miss her. Poor Io. Now Soul does have her back, which is good, but the numbers came. By the way, that was a Jack Swagger stray brought to you by the No Contest Wrestle Podcast. Check on two. He used to have his theme song used to be hard. It was kind of hard. Check on two. Oh yeah. Did he do the push-ups? I would never do power slap. Oh, no. That's just because. Have you an athlete or not? Why? Why would you? Yeah, like.

45:29Like, what's the benefit of letting somebody just slap the lips off your face? Yeah. Or the face off your lips? Nah, man. Not me. Nah, can't do it. Not a shit-jaxed Jr. But yeah, so EO, I don't like, you know, I don't like when EO gets, you know, beat down like that. But, you know, we're going to get her and Liv at SummerSlam. And we got to do something with Raquel, man. Like, Roxanne is fine. People keep talking about Roxanne losing. I've said this how many times? Roxanne is going to be fine. Yeah, the prodigy. Yeah, she's taking some L's. Don't worry about her. She's going to be okay. Just like some former rapper said, and get him to the Greek, about owning kookaroos.

46:11Did he? He did.

46:16Kookaroos. I'm going to be okay. Roxanne's going to be okay. but uh Raquel's just too big too strong after what I saw her do the soul we got to do something with you know you know how we feel about the hard artists here yeah

46:31O'Shea:that's fun to say but yeah man there's something where we did Punk Sammy Cody did Roman Seth yeah but we didn't do Roman Seth for real well we're not we didn't get to that point yeah right right right right I'm just I'm just trying to map it out because I can't wait till we get to that part. Well, let's get to that part. Y 'all want to see a dead body? I ain't never seen. I ain't never seen. Don't say you ain't never seen because I can give you multiple instances. When has Seth looked like that? Oh, maybe Seth. Okay, I thought you just meant wrestling. No, no, no, man. Seth pulled the sympathy card and his rebuttal.

47:15O'Shea:I was like, that's not Seth. you ain't getting no sympathy especially from people who remember the shield like I look in the mirror every day you went the sympathy route right now you're the one that broke him up you know Roman when he said you know how you know you number two because after all these years he still needs a money and a bank to win the championship when I tell you I scream so loud that the dog thought something was wrong like bro I was like are we really doing this right now and you know another thing your daddy Triple H basically runs this place and boy they tried boy did they try they basically gave you all my stuff.

48:17O'Shea:I took that as like, remember I used to call the vision bloodline light? And I'm like, this feels a little personal. I don't remember right now. It just felt like a little, he had the crowd in the palm of his hand. You're the bad guy. You're the bad guy right now. And he had him like that. I was like, I don't know if I remember. I don't know if I remember Seth looking like this. next week, Seth got to bring a... I want a hammer. I know he went home and got the composition notebook out. He better have. Boy. Because as someone who loves to trash talk, there were some lines that I came up with and I told you before I'm not going to say them because some of them ain't really that cool.

49:02But there are definitely things he could have said back about you winning the title and you getting hurt. One of the things would have been like, yeah, you get hurt when you actually show up to work to wrestle. He didn't say that. You know, both of their bodies have betrayed them in one way or another. He didn't say that. You know, like, so there are definitely comebacks that he could have. Like, I'll give Roman the dub on that little thing. That money in the bank line is gold. The fact also that you know what Seth has in his back pocket, though, what he, is that suffering suck it, Hash. At some point, he's got to pull that out.

49:38Because you're getting, you were getting, you know, it's late rounds and he was getting worked and he, there was a haymaker he had. And it's like, bro, if you were ever going to power up, you should pull that out now. And he didn't. So, you know,

49:51O'Shea:succotash, dog food, you know, blue context, but like, you know, declaring myself for the world. Like there's a lot of ways. And I think also just gives a shout out to Roman because it just shows how far he has come on the mic and how much better he's gotten. Yeah. And, you know, and that's not just recently. that's been for the last few years but at the beginning like Seth said it was kind of rough it was kind of rough but that's what when you're following the guidelines that they laid for you compared to when you could just be yourself how many superstars have we heard tell us that of just like you know when I when I just started to be me yeah I found it and when it's true I know Stone Cold has always been that guy you know I mean you remember there's stories of like writers giving punk promos and them taking the paper and be like, alright, cool.

50:41Yeah, what am I going to do with that? But Shay, that's something else. You talked about MJF and how a bunch of a fan you are of him and we all know MJF is one of the best. He'll tell you he's the best on the mic. Yeah, if you don't think he's the best on the mic, just ask him. Yeah, but the thing is he also has kind of carte blanche to say whatever he wants in a way that the guys in the WWE can't necessarily say which one. Because I remember there was one episode of Dynamite about three weeks ago, I meant to talk to you about this, where MGF cursed twice. And I believe it was either, then Roosh came out.

51:17Remember Roosh is a guy who I said, I don't know if people have fully let Roosh know that bro, you don't have to actually merc somebody. Yeah, yeah. Roosh goes 195. Yeah. And Roosh swore and they bleeped him out. They bleeped it. And then Tony Shivani apologized for it. And I was like, well, that's kind of weird to me because MGF said, and I don't like the curse on here, but it's the S word. He said it twice with nothing. And Roos did it. They bleeped him in Tony. So it's like Max does have a leash where he is able to go a little further in his promos. A lot of people he's able to go further than, because you mean to tell me The Miz couldn't if he wanted to?

51:58There's a lot of guys. LA Knight they could, but they're constrained. By the way, I saw

52:05O'Shea:you said The Miz I saw a couple of his fights with Coral on Real World. Oh, yeah. Boy, we're lucky he survived. Yo, Coral got into Miz's butt back in the day. He paused back in the day. What the hell? Coral was mean to Miz, bro. She's mean as hell. But yeah, man, so looking forward to those battles. But like I said, that's one thing. Kind of AEW, I think they get, like I said, they get a little bit more of a leash than the WWE guys go. And it'd be interesting. People always go, MJF should go to WWE. he definitely would not be able to say some of the things that he said but that's why we're glad we have options people I don't even like this or like that AEW you like that WWE TNA ROH AAA CMLL New Japan I'm here for all of it you can't have a restaurant sell every type of dish because then you get the Cheesecake Factory there you go it's funny you said that I went to Cheesecake two weeks ago I spent 14 minutes looking at the menu because I could not figure out and I ended up getting some I'm not lying Raider came three times I was like I'm overwhelmed I'm overwhelmed dog so I just ended up getting some salmon it was delicious it was delicious but still I don't think I wanted salmon I got a taste for Mexican, Chinese and Continental all of a sudden I don't know man but yeah looking forward to Friday we got Friday Punk will be on Smackdown again.

53:34We'll see the continuation of this. Tonight we have AEW. We'll see where they're going.

53:38O'Shea:I will be watching that on the plane. It's a good time to be a wrestling fan. Speaking of the plane, you're leaving in about an hour to go to New York for Fanatics Fest. Now, if you guys know, last year we were asked to come to Fanatics Fest. We had interviewed Ray Mysterio Jr. It was an amazing event. Amazing time. We did not get invited back this year for whatever reason. Possible racism? no one's saying that i can't lie to you i'm i'm i'm a little bummed i'm a lot of bummed i'm a lot bummed and i i came to the realization about six weeks ago i was like i don't think we're going to get invited back for whatever reason so i'm not going but you are going so why don't you let them know what you're gonna i don't know if i could tell you oh it's one but yeah but i will be there I will be there I've been invited as a guest how about that can't quite give too much I think it's going to be happening tomorrow or Friday but yeah I'll be there I'm going to be using my guest pass aggressively and I will be rubbing elbows to make sure that NCW stays your favorite wrestling podcast in the world and possibly becomes Mickey Mouse's favorite eventually.

54:55O'Shea:But we will be in Fanatics Fest represented. But we won't have a show there. I hate that. I never want to feel this again. I will do everything in my power to make sure that there is no damn wrestling show that doesn't have NCW at least mentioned. Because I will be damned, TJ Jefferson. Because we put a lot of work into this. And we some cool MFers. Yeah, like, you know, when we started the pod, like when we announced in 2024 on the Rich Eisen show, what was one of the first things I said was like, you know, we want to be at Fanatics. And then we got it in our first year. So, yeah, it kind of bums me out.

55:35But I hope everyone that goes enjoys themselves and has a great time.

55:38O'Shea:You see Cody interviewing Tom Brady? Tom Brady, yeah. So check that out. Shit pissed me off. I was like, damn, that's cool. That is really cool. Whatever. I want to see. So enjoy that. Maybe you'll be able to catch them there. And I know you're going to represent, so I'm not worried. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm thug as bug as bra. I will also be at Saturday night's main event. Yeah, you're going to check that out. And I know there's going to be some head honchos there. So, you know, I'll be out there shaking ass. Shaking hands and kissing babies. Am I? Did I have a stroke? Did you hear that? There was a beep in the back.

56:12Okay, thank God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. There was something beeping in the back. I got so scared. You did. I'm like, did I hear that? Am I tripping? But yeah, so like I said, great time to be a wrestling fan. And so yeah, Shay, I found this list on Reddit, you know, and it was basically a list of, you know, who is the greatest blank? Who is your favorite blank? Pick a blank. And I thought this would be something cool for us to do, especially today so we don't have a guest. So to make it a little less confusing, we're just going to jump in this and we're going to start it off with greatest male wrestler of all time.

56:46Now I'll go first. this was a tough one man because there's been a lot of great male wrestlers just to be honest but when I really break it down and I if I have to say who's the greatest I have to take a look at a few things I have to take a look at longevity impact on the business okay um and also you know the things that make a wrestler great you know like you have to have a package you got to be able to talk you got to be able to wrestle right but you also got to have some fly gear right and you got to have something about you that resonates outside of wrestling. And so when I put that all together and I put it all in a big ass grab bag and I reached around, the name I pulled out is the nature boy, Ric Flair.

57:26I feel he checks every single box that there is. You know, there's rap songs about Ric Flair. You know, when you think about the woo, the chop, you know, the wardrobe with not only just the suits and the gaiters, Then we're talking the robes, the limousines, the private jets, the diamond rings, the ladies a mile long just waiting to go woo. When you take all of that stuff over almost a 50-year career, I think he's deserved that accolade. So that's why Ric Flair is my greatest wrestler of all time.

58:00O'Shea:Now, everybody knows I'm a Roman guy. Everybody knows I love me. Some DJs. Shout out Dwayne. Shout out Dwayne. And yeah, some of the things you were speaking on, like the impact and everything, like I was thinking about Stone Cold and, you know, how Stone Cold really, I really feel like he beat somebody ass, you know? Like if it's real stuff. Yeah, yeah. So I need some of that too. And then I started thinking about in-ring ability, who's somebody who I know can like not only take care of you on the ground, but if he wanted to, he could jump off some stuff too and really get it cracking. And when I started putting all that together, I got Kurt Angle.

58:46O'Shea:I think Kurt Angle is the greatest. And you know that I came to this conclusion recently, fairly recently, where I hit you. And I was like, bro, like, I'm looking at his stuff and, like, the dude's got it all. The dude has it all. And he's an Olympic gold medalist. he won a gold medal in the Olympics. With what? With a broken freaking neck. Come on now. All right. So, I mean, greatest male wrestler of all time. I feel safe in saying Kurt Angle. I have no problem with that. I remember months ago when you texted me that, I just wrote back, yeah. You'll get no argument out of me. He does everything.

59:32He checks every box. I think if Kurt, you know, had a longer career, maybe I would have put him over Rick. But yeah, Kurt Angle, again, someone who checks every single box. And if work turns into a shoot, you're going to be all right. Kurt will beat your ass. So on the flip side, let's turn to the ladies first. Let's turn to the ladies. And the question is, who is the greatest female wrestler of all time? And I'd give you like a long, drawn-out description and stuff. But I've already said this a couple dozen times on this show. So nothing's going to change. When you talk about presentation, remember, that's important.

1:00:09A look, believability. When you in-ring talent, high flyer, a striker, she can do it all. You already know my answer is Asuka, right? I've said this a hundred times before. Yeah, but Asuka is, to me, the greatest female wrestler. she's my favorite and yeah I've already you know I've already banged the drum for her so many times you already knew what the answer was going to be that was one

1:00:37O'Shea:of the moments where in our friendship when her and Kyrie were walking by I was like oh I gotta make this happen for my name right now let me throw myself in front of them hey how you doing and then like you had your moment with Asuka and that was one of the moments tell them what I did he bowed at her feet got on my knees full respect full respect in Japan I bent the knee man yeah both both of them I was on both knees doing we are not worthy and she was like oh yeah what oh yep but that's what you do when you see a goat in your favorite I feel you bro experience a membership that backs your business journey with American Express Business Platinum when you pay with membership rewards points for all or part of an eligible flight booked with a qualifying airline through Amex Travel, you can get 35 % of those points back, up to 1 million points back per calendar year.

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1:02:15O'Shea:So what about you, my G? It's so funny about your first answer because it matches my second answer. I think about presentation. I think about do I believe when they get on that mic, do they demand your attention? You know, fellas, we are animals. They're just simply animals. But when a lady can walk into a room and grab your attention immediately from the jump, she grabbed that microphone, dude shut up, and they listened. and I remember her days as a face, but she is in her bag whenever she's in a heel. I think about the moments and the matches. I look at the size and the frame. She definitely could handle herself.

1:03:04O'Shea:And then I think about the 40-time world championships. I got to go Charlotte Flair. Okay. I got to go Charlotte Flair. It's going to be controversial because everybody knows that my goat, my goat is still Mercedes Monet aka Sasha Banks that I love her to death but when I look at the full package that I need can I sell this superstar from here to Japan all over the world and I with Mercedes though I mean the world loves blondes bro if Mercedes went blonde then maybe yeah but she's actually traveled the world and wrestled I'm not gonna argue your point I'm just saying I mean bro I could If Mercedes was water, I could sell her to a drowning man.

1:03:50O'Shea:But Charlotte, I just feel like them 14 world titles, and I believe every single one of them. There was one that she got it and lost it real quick, and I was like, did they just do that to just bump them stats? But other than that, I feel comfortable in saying Charlotte Flair. And she's had to deal with injury and a lot of things that were kind of setbacks, but we all know when she was her hottest. She was untouchable, dude. All right, so next up, personal dream match. Again, I spent like three hours trying to come up with this. It's almost an impossible thing because there are so many matches that you'd want to see.

1:04:31I just narrowed it down to one. And if you ask me this question in two weeks, probably going to give you a different answer. But for today, I looked and I thought, what would my personal dream match be? It's going to be a fatal four-way between Bob Backlund, Kurt Angle, Kenny Omega, and the Great Muta. I don't know why. Just today, that today. I thought about a fatal four-way with those four. That's excitement to me, bro. I'm going to watch this match over and over and over again. And you've got some of the best Matt guys in the world. And Backlund and Angle, Omega can do it all. And the Great Muta, one of the most underrated wrestlers of all time to me.

1:05:09How about you?

1:05:10O'Shea:Absolutely. Mine is simple. because we've been teased for about five years. I won't rock and roll, man. I get it. Just because it's a personal, personal feeling towards that match. It was the guy that made me fall in love with wrestling versus the guy that brought me back into wrestling. And it's, yeah, bro, it's must see. And as much as I love Dwayne, got to go with my travel chief, bro. You know what time it is. Check your watch. All right, let's move on. Greatest tag team of all time. Look, my whole life I thought it was the Road Warriors, right? For years and years and years, and that's the team I'm going to go through because I just had never seen a team that was built up like the Road Warriors.

1:05:54They came in to a match. They beat you down, and then they left. It was a great formula that worked for years. They held belts in the old NWA, WCWA, WA, WWE, WWF. So, yeah, for most of my life, it's always been the Road Warriors. I'm going to stick with it, but I will give a caveat. If you're going to say the Hardy boys or anyone's going to say the Hardy boys, I will not argue that with you because you look at the body of work and the length of time that Matt and Jeff have been doing it. And honestly, you know, it came down. I almost said the Hardy boys and I probably should have just giving them props on what they've done and how long they've done it.

1:06:32But I'm going to go with the road wars.

1:06:34O'Shea:I mean, I get it. You know, it makes perfectly, you know, it makes sense. Hardy Boys, of course, being brothers. You can't get chemistry like that, but I'm going in a different route with my brotherhood. The Dudleys, for me, man. I love the Dudleys. They've won everywhere. I think about that classic picture of them with all their titles. Everywhere except AEW, and AEW was still brand spanking new, still got the tags on it. But the Dudley Boys. The Dudley boys were always the ones that did it for me. I love the Hardys. You know I love the Hardys. But, like, it's just something about D-Von and Bubba Ray, you know?

1:07:18O'Shea:They won all around the world in Aye, Aye, Aye. And we've had the Hardys on. I think it's about time to make that call for the Dudleys. Might have to happen. Absolutely. So let's move on to greatest faction of all time. And, again, there's so many factions that you could choose from. It came down to two for me. and I know you're going to mention the one so I'll just mention the other one I think when you think factions I'm just going to go back to the beginning I'm going to go to the faction that really helped blur the lines they were the first hills that I ever heard get cheered it was very weird but they had the formula they had the charismatic front man just like a rock band you have your supreme worker you have your enforcer and then you have a tag team within the mix.

1:08:08They were all interchangeable parts and because they were the first I'm going to say them, I'm going to say it's the Four Horsemen or the greatest faction of all time and I'm talking the originals but I believe they got better when Barry Windham was in so I'm going to go with the version of Flair, Blanchard, Anderson and Windham, Four Horsemen

1:08:27O'Shea:No one is going to argue that I mean, come on now it's just iconic if I got to pick affection it is hard for me to go against or anybody to go against the shield yeah especially when you think about the impact that they all have had in their solo runs i mean you got the tribal chief you got the visionary and then you got you got mox yeah over there with the death riders doing his thing such an icon in aew just that that whole transformation that that he's done not only as a character, but with his body. You know, his body too. You know, he got a hold of his drinking and really got healthy and is just laser focused, and he's in a league of his own right now.

1:09:17O'Shea:And so just the three of them, to think that they were all in a group is insanity. You know, it's insane. Yeah, I got to go with The Shield. I'm not mad at that. I think a few months ago I said that The Shield were the greatest faction of all time. But I kind of had an idea that that's where you wanted to go, so I didn't want to get the same answer. He knows. But look, man. More Roman propaganda. He knows. I'm not arguing with you. I'm not giving you pushback because I understand where you're coming from. Let's talk about matches, right? Now, of course, you and I have seen hundreds of thousands of wrestling matches combined, and it's hard to pick a favorite, and I have so many.

1:09:53But for this exercise, I decided to go with a match that I hope a lot of you seek out, and that is from WrestleKingdom10, Shinsuke Nakamura, against AJ Styles. They really weren't able to replicate it when they met at WrestleMania. But then at the end of AJ's run, I thought Shinsuke and AJ did a great job and WWE did a great job of letting those two cook. Never going to get what I saw in Wrestle Kingdom. I can watch that match anytime. And like I said, as of today, there's so many I wanted to say, but in lieu of time, yeah, I'm going with that one.

1:10:29O'Shea:I'm going to watch that on the plane today. Please do. My favorite, because it was so... I'm a little kid, all right? A lot of things are the end of the world. Or to a little kid. And I always talk about when wrestling broke my heart, a key moment was when I watched the NWO run over the rock in his ambulance. Yeah, you mentioned that. As a kid, Hulk Hogan goes up to the truck. Whatever he saw in that truck, he said, yo, we got to get out of here. As a kid, that was the end of the world to me. but it was The Rock versus Hogan won WrestleMania 18 in Toronto. You want to look at when we all talk about storytelling, that match right there is telling such an incredible story of passing the torch.

1:11:19And, you know. By the way, can I interrupt? A story that they weren't even aware they had to tell. Yeah. They didn't know what was going to happen.

1:11:26O'Shea:Exactly. And it was icon versus icon. and the thing is like rock didn't necessarily have like the most titles he wasn't like presented necessarily as like the ultimate face you know still austin's house so you know for that moment it just spoke about the star power that the rock was bringing outside of having a championship or what we think is success in the squared circle that hogan is having this icon versus Icon match with Rock, Hogan. We go down memory lane and Rock lets Hogan, he gets his stuff off that at a certain point, you can tell when the cutoff happens. And that is the moment of like, no, this is where we are now with the hell blazing, eyebrow raising, the Rock, the Brahma Bull.

1:12:19O'Shea:And so, yeah, as much pressure as I put on myself and I didn't get in that match not one time. I got to go Rock versus Hogan won. He fought him again, and Rock won that one, too. I just want people to know that. All to the brothers out there. That's a brother with an A. Not with a hard E. Because why would we do that? You don't do that around here. But yeah, that match, again, one of the best, just when it comes to psychology of professional wrestling, seeing how two performers had to flip the entire psychology based upon what the fans wanted, and they did as great of a job as anyone. Also, one more thing about the Nakamura styles.

1:12:53At one point, Styles shot the imaginary gun, and Nakamura caught the bullet and ate it. And I was like, this is just hard. You know I love Nakamura, like I said, him and Styles for me. Let's talk about most underrated female wrestler of all time. Again, this is just a CVS list of women that you could put in here. But I'm going to go with this woman because I don't feel she ever got the credit that she probably deserves. that is gail kim oh you know i feel you know gail kim i believe she won the the women's championship in wwe in her first or second match you know then you know she had a short cup of coffee there i'm not sure why she didn't do more in wwe then she went to tna and of course you know her and awesome kong who was someone else who's very underrated just put on bangers and bangers And, you know, for people who don't know, there was a point that TNA Knockouts Division, they were probably the best in all wrestling.

1:13:54They had some great women, some great matches. And Gail and Awesome Kong just helped elevate that a little bit more. But, yeah, I feel Gail Kim, man, doesn't get the props she deserves. And so I'm going to give her this role here. I'm going to give her this.

1:14:07O'Shea:Now, when I first started watching wrestling, you know, I'm watching only WWE. so you know there's so much female wrestling that i missed out because wwe was doing nothing but braw and panty matches and that type of stuff so mine is a little bit more uh recency bias but i just want to give a shout out to the matriarch of the maple chelsea green chelsea green right now is putting is being put in a comedic like spot but please believe if you wanted to let her get down she could get down and i think you know she's so good at the comedic stuff that i think she's going to be put into a position where like why fix something that's not broke but i think people need to go back and look at look at some of that stuff the lucha underground stuff and like things like that yeah just take a look at just take a look at her stuff and you know i just popped into of my head like gail kim like i was friends with stacy keebler back in the day so big stacy used to bring gail out every now and then so there were times where like we got to hang out and kick it with gail kim she was always cool and she actually made an appearance here on the campus of at &t they used to have something called a uh a broadcaster's like fair where everyone a programmer's fair excuse me and uh i got a picture with gail kim right outside of our studio here once a few years ago but just adding on to the the gail kim being i promise you we will have her on let's do it all right so we did underrated female you know because we put the ladies first let's do underrated male again there's so many male wrestlers but i'm gonna give you a guy i thought about this the other week because i saw him and i just don't think that people understand how good he was because if you weren't watching ring of honor then you missed out on his run as both the world champion and the TV champion.

1:15:57Plus, when we talk about finishers, he's got one of the greatest finishers in the world to me, and that is Jay Lethal. And the lethal injection where he, you know, handsprings into the ropes and then bounces back and gets a cutter on someone. Jay Lethal, again, someone who doesn't get the props I feel he deserves. He, you know, many men I could have put in here, but for right now, for this exercise today, I'm going to say Jay Lethal, man, because I see him still doing his thing in AEW, and it kind of hurts me sometimes because he's, you know, doing the job or taking, you know. I saw Marina scooped him up and slammed him the other day, and I don't know, man.

1:16:34It's just like, man, Jay Lethal was so good, and he just didn't get a chance to go to, you know, WWE, which would have just made him an even bigger star. But watch some old Ring of Honor, man. Look up some Jay Lethal matches. Like I said, the finishing move's incredible. His body of work is incredible, and he had a tremendous run with the ROH World and TV titles. So shout out to Jay Lethal. Shout out to Jay Lethal.

1:17:01O'Shea:Now, for anybody who knows me knows, oh, this is where Shea is going to say Baron Corbin. Here he goes with his Baron. Listen, if there's 100 Baron Corbin fans, I am one of them. If there is one Baron Corbin fan, I am him. If there are no Baron Corbin fans, I am dead. He dead. All right, so. But I got to go Dolph Ziggler. I got to go Dolph Ziggler, and I know he had a world title, and I know, like, I'm going to be. He's current world champion. Yeah, but, like, you know, in WWE especially, like, you know, how can he be underrated? Because he needs more. Should have more. I've seen the man at TNA backstage to see his mind for the business, just the way that he was moving, keeping his body together.

1:17:48O'Shea:when I think about him selling who sells better like he is if I had to draw up a wrestler you know I would always I always talk about how Takeshita is like where I would probably end up but like a guy that can fit in any era Dolph Ziggler Dolph Ziggler can fit in any era and get business done and yeah I feel like when he was at the top of the mountain at WWE man it should have had more should have had more but you know WWE they need a meat mountain pause yeah still one of the greatest moments of all time when he cashed in money in the bank on Alberta that pop was legendary that pop when he returned for the Cena little tournament so yeah shout out to Nick Nemeth Nick Nemeth current TNA world heavyweight champion so at least someone's still showing him some love but I understand what you're saying because that was always the story about like people thought he should be the man dude and also I still think that you and your brother should when y 'all do the tag thing I think y 'all team should be called Nemethith put it on a t-shirt Nemethith we got two more here let's finish strong here now let's talk about the best finisher of all time my goodness man every single person that wrestlers got a finisher so how do you how do you like narrow down what's the best finisher and there are so many like is it a ddt is it a simple clothesline is it a figure four you know is it a you know a body slug remember back in the day a suplex a simple suplex when you a match but things have changed but there's one move that i mean i know that a wrestler last week said he kicked out of but i don't remember it happened and i can't really find any evidence than anyone has.

1:19:44Kenny Omega's one-winged angel is pretty much the most protected finish in the history of wrestling. And I personally have never seen anybody kicked out, and I know somebody probably has that I'm not thinking of, but personally, I've never seen. I remember watching Okada get hit with it, but Kenny couldn't go for the pin. He was so exhausted, he just rolled off of him. Yeah. So no pin took place. So technically, he got hit with it, but didn't get pinned. But the one-winged angel, man, And once he gets you up on his shoulders and does a little flip over, it's beautiful to watch. And like I said, it's highly protected.

1:20:18And I haven't seen anybody kick out of it. And when Kenny Omega hits you with that, night, night. Yeah, I'm going to just put it out there right now.

1:20:28O'Shea:I thought about going Sweet Chin Music just because I think about, when I think about a finisher, it needs to be devastating. And it needs to be able to, like, happen at any moment. At any moment, it could just, you know, whether with Sweet Chin Music, if somebody's coming off the turnbuckle, if somebody's running at you, at any moment, Sean can hit you with that. And I always love how Sean falls into the pen with it. Like, that was up there with me, but I can't lie to you. I can't lie to me. That's what I say. And my favorite finisher of all time is the RKO. Oh, out of nowhere, the RKO, man. You can do it in the pool.

1:21:09O'Shea:you can do it at the park you can do it in a ring the RKO is the ultimate neck breaker it is the ultimate cutter and I gotta go RKO shout out to Randy Key you know it's funny because I almost said the diamond cutter from DDP which is the same almost as a cutter just something you can hit out from out of anywhere I like that shout out to DDP as well and now we decided that we're going to create a new faction now look man again thousands of wrestlers we could have put in here I told you I spent way too much time last night trying to think of this but then I decided that you brought up the shield and then I decided I wanted to have a faction that was just like the shield just physical dominant powerful but then I decided to put a little twist on it I decided to use all ladies I decided to use all ladies So I came up with a faction because you need kind of like a leader in a mouthpiece.

1:22:12O'Shea:You need like a love lady with a mouthpiece. You need a powerhouse, right? And you need just a supreme technical wrestler. And you need like a bully in there. Someone just go bully people up. So these are the women. There's five of them that I came up with for a new version of The Shield. And they are Tekla, Stat Daddy, Chris Statlander, Lash Legend, Reina Volkan, as we formerly known as Nikki Blackheart, and then Kendall Gray. Because now I've got everything covered right there, right? I've got Tekla as kind of the mouthpiece. I've got Stat Daddy, Lash and Reyna. Now they're all powerhouses so we're going to go in there They wish.

1:23:06They're just going to go in there and just throw a bunch of women around and then you got Kendall Gray who can go out there. People are calling her the female Kurt Angle. Whenever you need a match she'll just go out there and out wrestle anybody so I feel with those five women who I've now dubbed the Sovereign Sirens I want to see them dressing all black like the Omen and just have them come because I don't think we've really had a female faction like that that I can think of off the top of my head. So yeah, just imagine. All female? No. Reyna, Lash, Chris Statlander. Big body. Big, powerful, sexy women.

1:23:42You know, Tekla, who's just, like I said, mean and tough. And then Kendall Gray, who can just get it done on the mat. So yeah, that's the faction that I just threw together right there, man. I'd love to see those five.

1:23:54O'Shea:I like that. You were right. I did love your faction. That was solid. The lady rap was so nice. Thank you. I went, you know, minus fellas. I saw Javon Evans with his post the other day talking about, I'm tired of losing. And, you know, I think about my man Montez Ford. You know, they lost the tag titles. So I got to thinking, TJ. I need full on blackleticism. Okay. Alright, blackletes, if you will. Okay. Montez Ford as the leader. He will be going for the world title and things like that. Javon Evans. My man, Leon Slater. Okay. And Kevin Knight. Woo! Okay. Ninjas with altitude. Hey! In the NWA.

1:24:48O'Shea:Ninjas. With altitude. With altitude. All high flyers. Woo! Boy, it looks like the Universal Circus in here. The universe soul circus. Were you going to put her on just that? Why not? Why not? Speaking into existence. Yeah. It actually kind of makes sense. I need soul rook in there. And we are the universe soul circus, baby. Ninjas with altitude. Ninjas with altitude. Oh, high five. Everybody flipping. Good God. All right. I'm not mad at that. Yep. This is like jumping jack flashing here. Gas, gas, gas. Okay. All right. Yep. Boy, it was either Ninjas Without Attitude or the Jumping Jehoshaphats.

1:25:30O'Shea:Because, my God, yes, nothing but black athleticism all day. That team's so black, they might bring back UPN. I love it. I love both of our fantasy factions. I love the list. And, of course, man, when you guys see this on social media, hit us up, man. Tell us who you would insert in all of those categories. And let's get a little bit of conversation going, man. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, this is very hard because there's a thousand answers for every one of these questions. And if we do this in two weeks, I'm going to probably give you, you know, nine different answers. Back up.

1:26:06But I like the Sovereign Sirens, man, because those women would put in some nasty work. Ninjas with altitude, baby. We up there.

1:26:14O'Shea:You can tell them where to find us. You got a list to leave. Yeah. So make sure that when you want to engage with this and you want to give us your picks, hit us up on social media. So on Twitter or X, we're at There's No Contest. On Instagram, No Contest Wrestling Podcast. On TikTok, No Contest Wrestling Pod. Now on Instagram and Twitter, he is O'Shea Jackson Jr. I am TooJiggy on X and TJ Jefferson on Instagram. And of course, if you want to watch this video and all of our episodes from number one to this one, just go to YouTube, Rich Heisen Show YouTube page and type in No Contest Wrestling, and you'll be able to see everything we've done.

1:26:52And yeah, make sure you go and check out that Stephanie McMahon, Rich Eisen podcast, because like I said, they had some really nice things to say about us here at NCW. And I found one thing funny is Rich was worried when he text Don Bowie and Don was like, John's still here. And it was like two and a half hours. And Rich was like, do we stop them? I told you, you can't let them talk to John Cena. They start going off. for that. John, he had a good time and he has assured us that he wants to come back on, so we'll get more stuff out of him. Really want to get into his acting career the next time we get into him.

1:27:28O'Shea:Yeah, absolutely. And for our listeners and watchers that are wondering, CM Punk text me back, just got out of a massage, double check just now, and Jordan over Kobe. Therefore, let's go Cody Rhodes, baby! Whoa! Make sure y 'all have a good day But not too good Cause who the hell you think you are Bye Miss Parker Bye Miss Parker Nebel baby's up by a billion I'm going team Cody bro I'm just saying like I gotta drive him to the airport now I guess Okay Let's go

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From the publisher

After a week off, O'Shea and T.J. return to the pod and there's a lot to dissect. From CM Punk and Kenny Omega becoming World Champions, to Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins taking us down memory lane things are heating up in the world of pro wrestling. The guys also discuss the Big 3, Rich Eisen's appearance on Stephanie McMahon's "What's Your Story" podcast and they each create a Fantasy Wrestling Faction!
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