NCW talks SmackDown, Raw, Dynamite, NXT and O'Shea's new film, "Idiots"

35:55Right? So, yeah. Here's the deal. I don't think that Charles Montgomery is losing that title anytime soon. Don't feel like he should. But the thing is, what do I know? What do we know? And would it surprise you if Kevin Owens won? Not really. So, yeah. It's interesting. And I'm interested. And that's what you want, right? Take us somewhere different. Keep you on your toes. keep us on their toes what else do we have? Fatal influence they defeated interim women's champion Chelsea Green and the women's United States champion Tiffany Stratton in the tag team match I need you to explain, I need somebody and you know me, I'm pretty easy when it comes to this, but there are things that happen things WWE does that makes me scratch my head and I do not get it they seem to love when they get a brand new champion and the next time we see them having them eat an L eat a pin why is Chelsea Green getting pinned in that match why not Tiffany this is your new interim women's champion and she takes the pin to essentially some rookies that's bad enough in itself but the worst thing now she's hurt and I have a hard time I've always had a hard time saying this word let me get it out orbital bone see I can't say it orbital bone See, it's one of those things that does, I consider myself a master of the language.

37:18Some words do not roll off my tongue. Bro, your mustache too big. Orbital bone, all right? Orbital. Yeah, I can't say that word, but I did it. But yeah, it's broken. Yeah. And now what happens? Is she going to have to give up the title? Does she risk it? Because now - Are we going to have an interim interim? Right? Because that's nothing to play around with. No. You bust that up, that could go up in your eye. That could really mess you up for the long run. And she, remember, was it her? I know Carmella for sure, but didn't Chelsea wear a mask for a while? She broke her nose. Yeah. So are we looking at another mask thing with her?

37:52Right. Or are we looking at this is maybe a little too severe? Yeah. Are you going to give her time to maybe, oh, the way you did with Rhea? Like, there's a lot of. Yeah, right. Are she about to pull a Liv Morgan and not really defend it? Or are they just going to take it from her? Yeah. it's like you don't want to suck the energy out of the whole title is now getting cursed whispers and that's how i felt about the uh orbital orbital uh the uh the red title when it was like the universal title when it was red i was like this thing is cursed like everybody who touches it yeah yeah finn gets hurt uh seth uh roman had to you know leave yeah like i was like bro i would not want this belt and uh i know i should have scratched with my left hand did you guys see that i went over like this what a lunatic you know how to act on camera yeah so i i think for her first of all for her to take the pin in my screenwriting mind i'm thinking like they were it they were building up of like well she's the interim champion and so like there were going to be a lot of opportunities where she doesn't feel like the champion until that moment.

39:10Like, there's a moment that, like, a build-up to something, but it also, maybe just shouldn't happen. Maybe just shouldn't happen. Maybe don't put them in a match against the tag team champions that just got the title. Also, what you said would have some creedins, except for the fact that they have a history of doing this. So it's not like it's just this one time. It's not like an isolated incident. That's just one thing I don't get. They're your champion, whether they're interim or not. You gotta make them appear that they could take on and take out anybody. You're a champion, right? Yeah. And so when you have them lose in matches, it just, I don't know, it kind of defeats the purpose.

39:45That's just my personal opinion. You know who did it? Michael Hayes. Right, man. You losing to nothing. And then we have, now, we are on record as being Bella Twin fans here. All right? Sorry. I'm a big Bella Twins fan going way back. Yeah. But there was a vignette with Nikki explaining why she turned on Paige. Now, like we said last week, I was hoping that maybe somebody would throw a challenge flag or something when it was obvious that Bree was hurt. Maybe not have the hill turn happen. Maybe put Nikki and Paige go against fatal influence. Maybe hold off on that. They didn't do it. So now you've got Nikki going after Paige.

40:26And, like, I just didn't like the reasoning. like Nikki let me just she said Paige lost the tag team titles and leeched off of her sister she did everything she could to get along with her but the loss at SummerSlam was the final straw she says it's because of Paige that her sister is hurt um here's the deal Paige didn't call Nikki Nikki called Paige right so you asked Paige to come and help you in a situation where yeah like if you don't have a replacement you're not going to get this match. And what happens? Didn't Paige get the one, two, three to win the belt? To win the title. So, I mean, that means Paige got a lot of rebuttal room in her promo.

41:10Yes, she does. She can come back. And, you know, even at SummerSlam, Nikki looked at the camera talking about, you know, you can't take my spot. Called me. Right? You called me to take your spot. I was chilling. Yeah. I was at the crib. I don't know, she live in LA. That's a crib, palm trees, loving life. You call me. So it's, yeah, there's a lot of holes. That's like when Arn Anderson called Kurt Heddingen and said, I'm not going to give you any spot in the Forestmen. Give you my spot. Yeah. And then what did Kurt do? And then what did Kurt do? He slammed Ric Flair's head into the steel. You can't.

41:47By the way, don't be giving people your spots no more, man. Because all they're going to do is either you're going to turn on them or they're going to turn on you. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. History repeats itself. There is a... Nah, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. But there's a dark instance of do not give up your spot. And it's a wrestling story. Anyway. I'll tell you afterwards. And then something else I love, because you know who my guy is. Shinsuke Nakamura. Yes. I love... If you watch this, you know I love Nakamura. Nakamura not seeing him for weeks at a time months at a time has just really frustrated me as a fan but he cuts this little vignette vignettes are coming back by the way which I love, which we love sometimes you gotta tell a story man, it don't hurt nothing yeah let me, it's like a little treat, a little appetizer yeah like a story oh yeah I am waiting for that I just saw them talking about you know the The Jericho Millennium Clock back in the day.

42:55It's like, oh, yeah, I am worried about that. It's like a little extra. Something extra. But Shinsky comes back. He cuts a promo. He's talking about the Haku being with the Tongans. And he's like, he's back. And this time, he's not going to be alone. He's starting a war. And he's no longer a one-man army. So who is Shinsky? That sounds pretty heavy. Evil. Evil. But what do we know? it could be could be Naruto I just said that because I knew I could laugh so do you remember the first time I actually said that to you and Jada Parker and I was like you guys laughed at me but yeah it's a great call back the reason I did that I watched that clip randomly this morning and I was like first of all that was rude because I didn't know about Naruto and One Piece and all this stuff One Piece is real which is one everybody knows but yeah you mentioned the name evil could it be Takahashi you know former member of Los Ingobernables Deja Pond he's been signed to WWE we don't know if he's going to NXT we don't know if he's coming to the main roster is it Finn there's some endless possibilities who Nakamura could bring I don't think Bad Luck Fale is coming though unfortunately you know why it pisses me off why Shay because that means if we would have just got one more year we could have had what I think is a top 10 tag team name ever uh the kings of strong style you're like AJ and Nakamura tagging up you came up with that name bro and I was like that's so good it has to be fattening it was amazing but and also i think about aj when it when we were talking about uh talking to him about shinsuke i can't remember if it was on camera off camera but he was like oh man you remember what he said he was like shinsuke is like hey my body you know like come on man but if he's gonna give us one more run i am down for it because Shinsuke, I feel like him and Finn, they hype me up so much for them.

45:19And Julia is about to weirdly be the third member of this. They hype me up so much. And then got them to the top of the mountain and then they just fumbled it. They just kind of disappear into the background. We'll see them here and there. But, like, I'll never forgive WWE for having Nakamura and Asuka lose at the same WrestleMania. Like, that was so crazy to me. Why did y 'all take me on this ride with them if you not going to put the confetti in the air for them? And then, like, Nakamura turns heel. And I was like, all right, this might be interesting. But then when Nakamura turned heel, they changed his song.

46:11Seth Turnhill Seth gets to keep his song What does Seth have to do with this? Because Seth is just the Davenport, Iowa, Shinsuke Nakamura What's wrong with that? Nothing, I'm just telling you what it is He got the song, he got the fits, he's a rock star That is Shinsuke And I just felt like I think it's the promos Like if you can't give me a clear promo I don't think WWE knows what to do I loved when they were doing the subtitle kind of like anime thing for nakamura for a while getting back to that because just let them get in their bag like if you don't know if you picked me up you signed me and you don't quite know what to do with me through your stuff let me do me that got this it's the reason why you you picked me you wanted me here so let me show you how to do me and then we can find a middle ground yeah so let's see what happens I'm sure I mean Naraku does make the most sense right he's finishing up in NXT unsuccessfully trying to take the title from our boy Tony D is he going to stay down there is he going to move up I don't know but I'm excited for give me all the Shinsuke Nakamura and he is one of those guys who like I have a list of people who like I'm still holding out hope to have that one feel good world title win you know we got it with Sammy we've got with other people throughout the years and man i'm just i know it's probably not gonna happen but i'm just hoping praying that nakamura gets that it gets that rub one day man it would be awesome but and then we also had charlotte defeated jade cargill now i'm gonna talk about this because of course the iwc is going nuts because they're they're getting on jade about these botches or something but you know i was going back and looking and someone popped the video up there was a move the move that charlotte or jade did to charlotte where jade kind of fell backwards this is exactly rhea ripley there's a video of her doing the exact same move and falling backwards the exact same way jade did and yet she didn't catch any of the static that jade caught i just wanted to point that out same move same person charlotte was in it but yet with Jade it's all like she's awful and terrible blah blah blah it's just like I don't know I feel like we're fighting a losing fight with these people 100 % and there's another one with the sister Abigail we were like that was a botch here's how I looked at it I looked at it as Jade trying to escape the move she got away Charlotte snatched her back and then did it and everyone was like oh she botched it I don't look at it as a botch I look at it like she found herself in the position she knew what was coming I'm gonna try to get out of this nope get back boom got hit with the move yeah and then you know uh i don't know man it's just they're really on her all the time so all the time and it's like what i said all the time sometimes yeah man you're right 100 of the time 60 of the time but it uh yeah uh wow the the discourse on jade cargill is just so nitpicky.

49:27Yeah, it's very weird. And it's different when you have, because I know, I don't know who you are, but I know you just fixed your lips to be like, oh, we can't, we were just supposed to just take on, like, bro, relax. It's different when you give praise when she does well. But you don't. You only come here to trash on her. that's like you're kind of a piece of shit so it is it's different when you when you want to give constructive criticism yeah i'm not allowed to criticize the product no but when they do when it does great when it does good when it does okay give praise it's just always negativity you're kind of a bully bro just saying don't be weird we here at no contest don't support bullying unless they deserve it.

50:20Unless they deserve it. And then we had the debut of Tatum Paxley. She shows up, and that was a pretty phenomenal way to make your main roster debut. She comes out. Lexa Bliss comes out. She's obviously still injured from the chair that Jade put her arm in. Lights go down. B-Chin and B-Fab are outside the ring, and then lights pop back up, and there's Tatum Paxley. I thought she was about to throw up that black stuff again. Oh, could you imagine? But her standing on the, you know, not the turnbuckle, but the ring post. And they had an amazing flying body press. You know, she had been quoted in interviews I've seen before that, like, Alexa Bliss was, like, her favorite who got her into wrestling.

51:04She was my favorite, too, man. So to see those two together makes sense. Yeah. Charlotte and Tatum together make no sense. I mean, Charlotte and that new version of Alexa barely made sense. So Charlotte and Tatum don't, I don't even get that. And that's not, I think they're here for a good time, not a long time. Because it doesn't, the Charlotte Flair character, why would she befriend Tatum Baxley? Right. You don't even fit the blonde scheme. Yeah, so we'll see. But big ups to Tatum. She's pretty dope. I'm a fan. Hopefully, you know, they let her cook. Oh, yeah, for sure.

51:41Definitely a fan. But yeah, so we'll see. that was just my thought. Like, I don't even know if these things go together, but we shall see. Ultimately, I think long-term fans are going to want to see, even though they're not on the same show, we want Lyra and Tatum back together. Man, I want Lyra and Tatum, I want Va 'Ker and Julia. Yeah. Come on, man. Give it to me. It's right there. You got chocolate, you got peanut butter. Yeah. Reese's. Put them together, man. Put them together. Come on. Right? All right, So that was a little SmackDown review. And then Raw. I had to go back and watch Raw because, like I said, we were busy.

52:19We were busy watching Idiots coming out. August 28th. There you go. August 28th is when Idiots comes out. Make sure you go see Idiots. I would say Jackson Jr., Dave Franco. Yeah. So finally, somehow Raw didn't get spoiled. And I was on my phone. But somehow I just luckily kept missing any Raw updates. So I got to watch it on Tuesday. Show starts out. we've got the announcers at the table all of a sudden we hear someone singing Jay Uso's music and it's solo it's just me Uso day one and then you got Solo how many months ago did I say you know what Solo's problem is he's too funny almost a year ago I told you this Solo he got him he's wrapped around his face he got him wrapped and then Jay comes out now Jay but here's the deal when you go back and watch it Jay's always trying to mean mug but at one point you're sitting there and you can see him fighting this smile so hard because that's his little brother yup got me he got when he said and not only is he got me he's got he's got them and I think that is where the smile comes in pride but he's got to fight off that smile and Jay as we know is not good like Jay will break he will break if he has to he is the worst he's not good at holding that back but he did a good job, kind of told Solo like look, this is your warning shot you're coming home, I'm going to have a match I beat you, you're coming back to the bloodline this is your warning shot, bow and then next thing you know is Solo's down there hiding, like this dude's too funny is everyone okay behind me?

53:56everybody alright back there? anybody get shot? so big ups to Solo man they're going to have a hard time holding him back they are playing a dangerous game because Solo got a little Dwayne in there it's a little Dwayne in there like so the rock used to like the things that we know all these superstars to do and what we expect to hear from them and what the crowd is ready to hear from he would make that shit sound so stupid when he would get on the mic like he would make you seem like the thing that we love the Undertaker for like rolling the head back and like all that or I am the gamer. I am Triple H.

54:45He would make the things that we love say oh yeah it is kind of stupid. Also, give him Rock props. Rock would get things over that were so stupid. Like let anyone else try to say, hey you take that belt, you shine it up, turn it sideways and shove it up your candy ass. No one else could have got that over. It's all in the set up. Shoving stuff up your Rudy Pooh candy butt. And that got over. And he got it over. Yep. It's all in the setup. He said, yeah, you like apples? I'm like, all right, well, I want you to take this apple. Shine it up real nice. And once you hear that, it's over. Turn it sideways.

55:22Because it's one thing to tell somebody to shove something up there. But then turn it sideways. Turn it sideways. It's so disrespectful. But solo. It's like Vinny Barbarino used to say, up your nose with a rubber hose back in the day on Welcome Back, Carter. but like if he would have said take the rubber hose and turn it sideways turn it sideways sideways is just gnarly that's so disrespectful but Solo got a little of that like he good he's good pure comedy he is good and now and I get to do it with my big brother right so we'll cut ahead they have a match Jimmy comes out he interferes Jay gets the win and now the Solo go back to the bloodline what are we doing here we can't we gonna have two sour pusses remember last week Roman was like, and where is Solo?

56:06He should be by my hip. He's talking like some prison stuff like he's pulling out his pocket. Oh, no. Oh, come on, man. You can't say that about Solo. He should be on my hip like, nah, bro. And then also, Jacob always calling me that. Why are you always calling me that? Calling him a dumb ass. With your dumb ass, Jacob. So he gets the win. Now, Solo, I guess, has got to go back to the bloodline. We'll see. I'm kind of interested to see where this is going. And that right there is while they get you. He said, I'm kind of going to be interested. It's going to be interesting to see. Because, like, yeah.

56:44First of all, Solo. Solo Dolo. Yeah, Solo's on Raw now. You got to be up here with us. You know? Just like that. And so now, when you look at it, just like that, this is the most powerful the bloodline has ever been. If Solo's back. Like, you replace Sammy. like think about old bloodline you replace sammy with jacob okay they are deep they are deep now so so the the story man the story has to be the payoff is going to be something big there's no way you're doing all this and it's and it's just you know there maybe it's a world where what we thought was going to happen when so remember back when solo had his team and then roman had the new bloodline and the old bloodline and everybody online was fantasy booking like oh man Rock's gonna Rock's gonna come and join the new like I don't know man I'm just looking at the tea leaves and if there's a chance there's a chance that's my bad there's a chance there's a chance and yeah you know the Rock about to start singing ah yeah what can't he do I'm a supporter no matter what.

58:02You can call me a glazer or whatever you want. Y 'all some haters. That was my favorite wrestler of all time. Politely, take your opinion. Shine it up real nice. Let him know. Shine it up real nice. Turn that sumbitch sideways and stick it straight up your candy ass. O'Shea Jackson Jr. What's next, bro? I'm glad because if I'd have done that and you didn't do it I'd have been kind of upset there that was a quick lob too and then you know in the tournament we have that tournament to see who's going to face Roman Reigns on September 14th episode of Raw in Mexico City we had Penta defeat the Laredo Kid I thought this was a great match the crowd did not pass the vibe check where were they again?

58:54they were in I don't know, somewhere in the Midwest. Yeah, who gives a shit, Bill? All right? Because, like, dog. They were just, I mean, at one point, Laredo, and I guess you are the hill because they're going to cheer Penta, but the fans were so solid, and these guys were just balling. Yeah. Penta and Laredo could put on a match, man, and Penta got the dub. He moves on in the tournament, and you can see the bracket here, the World Heavyweight Championship number one contenders tournament. got Psycho Clown and La Parka who somebody online said LA Knight should be LA Parka I was like oh okay that would be wild if he just jumped in there and La Parka got to the final because WCW used to be great at that putting someone else under a mask I can remember being a kid you know I'm a little bit older than you obviously but I can remember being a kid and watching NWA Wrestling back in the day and Tommy Wildfire Rich who I've mentioned many times he was in a storyline with Ted DiBiase before he became the Million Dollar Man and it was something like Tommy Rich lost I think a loser league town match all of a sudden a guy named Mr.

1:00:02R a mass wrestler named Mr. R comes hmm, Tommy Rich is gone, but Mr. R comes and Ted DiBiase is so upset this goes on for weeks, he finally gets a match, he's defending I believe the National Heavyweight Championship against Mr. R, finally after like weeks of trying to tell everybody it was Tommy Rich and then during the match All of a sudden, Tommy Ricks shows up at the podium with Gordon Soley, and Ted DiBiase's confused. He pulls off the mask. It's Brad Armstrong. He gets the one, two, three, and he wins. He becomes, I believe, the Georgia National Heavyweight Champion. You just know it's him the entire time.

1:00:37It's not. It's like Grande Americano turned out to be somebody random as hell. Titus O 'Neil. Yeah. Oh, it was Titus O 'Neil the whole time. How about that? So, yeah, the tournament, if we could bring that tournament back up, we have Penta moving on. He's moving on in the tournament. Don! If we could pull that back up real quick. Yeah, there we go. And then we have Dragon Lee. He's going to take on Dr. Wagner. Wow, could they put, like, a longer name? Oh, that's Dr. Wagner. We just leave it at that. Ray Phoenix, who I think is going to win that match. I think ultimately it's going to come down.

1:01:16I think we're going to see Phoenix and Penta, which everyone wants to see. That would be a great one-on-one match. And you know what? Because everyone wants to see it, Dragon League is going to be Phoenix for sure. You never know. But the winner does get that heavyweight title shot against the Tribal Chiefs. So, see, everyone's kind of thinking. We were just talking about tag teams that we want to see together. And didn't mention Lucha Bros. Lucha Bros. Come on, man. We'll see where that goes. But, yeah, like I said, the crowd was a little too dead for my liking in this match. Yeah. Didn't like it.

1:01:44Fury defeated Tozawa. By the way, Tozawa's been in the WWE for 10 years. I was reading that. Yep. He's found a way to hang on, man. I'm about to start looking up his matches before he got to WWE. Do you know why he got picked up at this point, bro? I'm like... Oh, he was... Tozawa was a beast. He was bigger. Yeah, he was a bigger dude back then. He lost a lot of weight. He lost weight. He had a little bit more of a power to him. He was a little bit more yoked. Yeah, then he lost weight. So Dragon Lee defeat Dirty Dom. And all I got to say is what is happening? This is no disrespect to Dragon Lee.

1:02:21They got to know what we're talking about. But this is Dirty Dom. Like, he, the other day we were talking about who are the pillars, the four pillars, and we forgot to mention Dom. Bro. Just that crowd response. But it's just like, you can't have Dom beat John Cena and then job him out. Like, he's the triple-ah champion. and I don't like what's going on with Dom. I don't think Dom likes what's going on with Dom. I mean, wasn't he just number one best wrestler? 30 under 30? Yeah. And he was over MJF on that list. Yeah. So a lot of people thought that was crazy. Yeah. I mean, rightfully so. So what are we doing?

1:03:01I mean, it could lead to maybe there's a world where this is them getting Dom frustrated with Judgment Day. You know, like there could be, there's a number of ways that they could kind of flip him being frustrated about the losses. Because like we supposed to have these numbers game and all I got is JD. Yeah. All I got is JD now, you know. Is it time to add somebody? Yeah. Yeah, or, like, you know, live. Like, you kind of came here and, like, you got, you know, you got the Powerpuff Girls over here with the hard R's. The hard R's. But, like, I'm shortchanged now. You know, I'm not winning now.

1:03:40Like, so there's a world there. Or. Or. I could just shut the hell up. He's losing. He's losing. It's just what's happening. There might not be a plan at all. We don't like it, though, is what I'm saying. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Even though the Padres lose all the time. And then we had Sol Ruka and Io Sky defeated the Hardars, Raquel Rodriguez and Roxanne Perez. And, you know, match with it as you thought it would. A little outside interference, a little shenanigans. Sol hit a great Sol snatcher on Roxy to get the win. and I know I always look into this camera and I tell you all the time not worried about Roxanne.

1:04:20Roxanne's going to be fine. But at some point starting to get a little pissed off. Roxanne can't keep eating every pin. Yeah, man. I think I've seen her win three times. But to go back to what I said earlier, I'm shocked that they didn't make Raquel take the L because she's a brand new champion. Yeah. I still feel Roxanne's going to be fine. Yeah. but that man come on give me can I get 50-50 booking with her there has to be something that keeps you at the restaurant you know there has to be something that like you gotta send me some hope baby send me some hope because if I'm just watching it like remember when I couldn't remember the last Finn victory I'm having a hard time right now remembering the last Finn victory It beat Dom.

1:05:13Yeah. That's the last one I remember. It is. Like, it is. I don't know everything that goes into booking a wrestling show. And I recognize that as a fan and just enjoy the product. But I am also a podcast host. And I got questions. Yeah. We need answers. I got questions about everyone in the Judgment Day. it just got to the point where somebody besides Liv can win something so it's it's a delicate thing that they have to pay attention to because the Judgment Day at one point was the second biggest stable under Bloodline Staples Monday Night Raw they were on TV every week, they were holding gold, they still got gold I mean look, there's still two members still champions right now.

1:06:09They just got done with a Dan Housen saga. They gotta shake that off. Yeah, I mean, look. It's gotta get serious somewhere. I get the Dan Housens over with the kids and like I said last week. The best wrestling fan is the new wrestling fan. If you only know WWE through this new ESPN partnership, then the two biggest stars are Obafemi and Dan Housen. What a spectrum. That is crazy. Yep. You know what I mean? Yep. And then we didn't even talk about the fact let's get on the whole because we skipped i mean we kind of touched on tozawa in theory but the brawn breaker starting to like get that thousand yard stare yeah about obafemi i like where this is going gabby douglas don't like this shit i like where this is going man because now brawn is like wait a minute so you think and he's going everybody paul hayman And you think Obafemi's the face?

1:07:03Is he better than me? This kind of goes back to Entourage, right? Ooh, another Entourage reference. I'd like to pull that. Remember at one point, Vince went to Ari's office, and he said, Ari, do you think I'm a good actor? He goes, well, I didn't sign you because I thought you were a good actor. I signed you because I thought you were a movie star. And there is a difference, folks. There is a difference. Great actor and a movie star don't always go hand in hand. so it's kind of like Braun's asking Paul that so you think what do you think of me essentially and it's not the same but you can see the correlation there right he's going to someone he trusts someone he respects am I a good actor do you think he's the face over me and Paul's like until you show me that he's not so I like this Braun Breaker kind of like crash out that's happening He's the jealousy of Oba, you know, the jealousy of Simone.

1:08:01Oh, man, that's another. You know, luckily, Braun comes from a family that was in the business, and he, like, completely understands it. But if you pull that with a superstar who's not mentally mature enough to, like, you know, recognize that, like, oh, there's money to be made here. Yeah. All right. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure Braun Breaker gets it. Oh, 100%. He sees the vision. Yeah. We're looking at, like I said, he, Obafemi, Jacob Fautu. Those are some monsters that we want to see get along with. So, again, I'm interested, man. Yeah. I'm interested. They got you. Another thing I want to get on.

1:08:44Just another aside. People always talk about people not defending titles. Remember I brought this up before, that no one ever mentioned the fact that Penta was doing a great job representing that IC title and having matches. People don't really give props to the fact that R-Truth and Damian Priest are out there each week trying to do something with these tag team titles, you know, with the Viking Raiders, I don't know. War Raiders. I just remember they were War Machine and ROH and they were dope. Just to hear the crowd, war, war, war. Oh, that's so sick. But yeah, so, you know, we got those two tag teams now we have the Tongans they're in the mix maybe Nakamura with whoever he gets as a partner so yeah maybe these tag team titles that people want to throw you know in the back seat not really pay attention to maybe we should be giving these guys more props and putting a little bit more effort into these tag teams it's what it's one of those things like as a man you know to our lady listeners here's just a little tidbit into the man's psychology I everything that ladies do for makeup I don't like you know I don't see it until it's not there alright and that's when something's missing something's off she don't have her lashes in yet but like something's off and you can't tell what it is but like when it's the full product everything blends together so nicely that you don't even realize all the details that make it good and that's how i fill up the tag team i'm like these are these these teams they're they're entertaining superstars they know what they're doing in the ring why does it not feel like it felt when i remember the tag team division at its best why do i not see what am i missing from such and such that i had with the hardies with edge and christian with the dudleys like what am i not seeing where i cared as much as i did back then and they gotta they gotta put their finger on that button you know i when i think about the hardys and i think about like the dudleys and edge and christian both guys were interesting like like both sides of the team were interesting there wasn't like one that i felt like they should go solo yeah it was like they're both carrying a little bit and interesting storylines helps not trying to get on y 'all but I'm just I could just like not give a damn when I see the tag teams on and I don't get why yeah cause you like Priest you like Truth like I said I'm trying to give them props yeah but they're both are super you want to hear them both speak like you those are two dudes super interesting they play with each other well Truth always getting them in some stuff yeah chemistry is there The chemistry.

1:12:07Maybe that's, I don't know. Because then when I think about Fraxium, I love those guys. Oh, man. I need to call them. We got to play some games. I got to hit up AJ Styles. I said I was going to hit him up and talk about games. You know, he's got his own podcast he started. Yeah, we should just mob his shit. We guess now. He might be cool with it. Anyway, man. You know, I'm going to go off on a tandem. Yeah, tag teams. Tag teams need work. We'll see. But look, they're trying. There were years where they just took the tag teams and put them to the side, like I said, threw them in the back seat and didn't show them any love.

1:12:44So now at least we're getting something. Right. Can we put it on Kane and somebody random? By the way, back in the day, you know, Punk, I think it said something, either Truth or Priest, about he made a joke about maybe coming after the tag team titles. but back in the day like the early 2000 late 90 WWE that's what we would have got we would have got Punk and Cody would have on a random episode of Raw or Smackdown they would have won the tag team and then taken them into their match with like they're the co-tag team they're the tag team champions but now they got a one-on-one match yeah that happened all the time all the time I mean Bob Backlund and Pedro Morales Backlund was the world champion they beat the Samoans for the tag belts John Cena has done it with Batista Triple H and Stone Cold did it there's so many I can't even think of right now David Otunga and Cena were tag team champions at one point and then they had a match something that they traditionally used to do a lot so I was kind of shocked that if this was back in the day Punk and Cody would have been tag team champions that's just a weird aside that we...

1:13:58Yeah, bro. We don't have much for you, but you kicking it with the homies. It's a kicking it with the homies episode. And someone said that, many people said that in the comments. It's like sitting around with my boys, my friends just talking wrestling and that's what we wanted, right? So NXT, we'll move on to them real quick. We didn't have a chance to congratulate our guys, Miles Bourne and Tavion Heights, for winning the NXT tag team titles last week. Congrats to them. And they got to the locker room and they basically said any one of y 'all can get it. Whoever wants some can come get some.

1:14:34So now we got Miles with the two belts, Tavion, tag team champions. I'd love to see where they go. Ultimately, you know, I wouldn't mind seeing those two come up together in some type of new shield type of faction. Ooh. You know, I know they got, you know, maybe not. Maybe. I don't know. I always think about this. It would make, you know, like they doing it with Dark State kind of But, like, I don't know. Right now, I'm really down with Miles and Tavion. So we'll see where that goes. Grayson Waller, we didn't really talk about the pipe bomb that he dropped a couple weeks ago that got everybody in NXT in their feelings.

1:15:09They got everybody saying. Everybody saying. But, yeah, he had a match last night against Mike Santana, who is now known as Cruz Montana. Cruz Montana. I dig it. Cruz Montana, Mike Santana. Cruz, which was his dad's, I believe his dad's nickname. Okay. Cruz, Montana. Hey, I'm going to need to get used to it. I was mad that they changed Walter to Gunther, and now I love it. If what I'm reading is correct. But yeah, Cruz, Montana against Grayson Waller. And then we had, at the end of that match, we had a debut that we've been kind of waiting for for a while. Zilla fought two. Dun, dun, dun, dun.

1:15:56Dun, dun, dun, dun. Yeah, man. Zilla. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Yeah, Zilla Fatu made his, I guess, long-awaited, eagerly anticipated NXT debut. He kind of jumped in the ring during that match. By the way, that was a hell of a pop. Yeah. And it's going to be hard to ignore. Let's be honest. He's not going to get ignored. His last name's Fatu. Yeah. But I think that just proved the fans were ready. I saw a fan video where a fan, as they're recording, caught him sneaking through the back. And he's like, it's so hard. It's so hard. And he's screaming. It was kind of like I was watching Hard Knocks, the first episode.

1:16:34And these kids were trying to get autographs. And this one kid saw Jackson Smith and Jigba. And he's, I mean, it was kind of cool because he's probably like 11, 12 years old. And he sees JSN. And he's just jumping up and down, screaming, JSN, JSN. And that's how this guy was. It's so hard. So he already had the pop. I thought you were going to say that it was like a Godzilla movie. Because, oh, it's Zildo. It's Zildo. Yeah. Everyone knows Zillow Vatu. He's going to keep his name. They're going to make him change his name. It's too good to change. Because if you leave it Vatu, then you've got to instantly put him in that situation.

1:17:07If they change the name, it gives him a little bit more runway, right? But ultimately, we all know who he is. Just like Jacob. We know where it's going. so he's got to get down there, find out where the hard cam is, learn the WWE way. I don't see him probably being in NXT long, but people, like complete opposite of the Radio Kid Penta match, the NXT crowd was into Zilla. And Tony D standing there watching them, and he's, you know, of course he's going to have his eye on that title, probably on Grayson, probably on Cruz, probably on anybody. Will, you know, Real Rooks, is that his name now? Oh, yeah, right?

1:17:47No, Mason Rook. Mason Rook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mason Rook. I guess I should have known that. Hey, Will Rook. That reminds me. You know what words I can't say? What?

1:18:00Rivalry week. Rivalry week. That, go to hell. Like, them putting those words together and, like, trying to say it fast when I'm on live TV or something, I just try to not say it. I feel you. Rivalry week. stupid. Yeah, it was Will. Now it's Mason. Mason Will. So yeah, there's gonna be a lot of people for him to get busy with down there, man. So yeah, but Zilla's there. It was a great video of somebody recording his mom watching NXT. She didn't know he was debuting. And Mama Zilla lost. If you ever watch her, she's about that life. Oh, this. She'll be live streaming. Yeah, she's about that life, by the way.

1:18:39Yeah, bro. All of them. She's about that life. But her losing her mind to see her baby that was search that out look for it i mean the triple h didn't didn't make jacob change his name because you know jacob tells a story about like they give you the list of names or whatever and then he was like before uh i i asked triple h i was like what you know what it's gonna be my name he said oh jacob fatu yeah so like you might run into it but everybody know the writing is on the wall anyway man let me keep my shit and for people that don't know zilla is umaga's son yeah right and boy when he gets a screaming he looked just like so you got a couple guys who've been taking some of your dad's uh i know punk hates moveset yeah but it is what it is so we're gonna see that that flying simone spike that he does you know that's solo's move he don't jump and do it the way zilla does it you know uh some of the moves jacobs does has been come from umaga so So that might be, that's an interesting promo down the line for sure.

1:19:45Basically, if you are over the bloodline storyline, if you're over this whole thing, then you might as well find something else to do. Yeah, dog. But I will say this is the last one I know. Zillow's like the last piece of it. Well, his mom is holding the baby. That's somebody's baby. Roman got five kids. Jacob got, what, seven? I mean, like. Big Jim got one. Jay got two. One or two. Like, yeah, this bloodline storyline. it ain't ever going to. Can't stop. Won't stop. So like Ric Flair said, if you don't like it, learn to love it. Yeah. Imagine that. Think about what Ric Flair said. It wasn't like he was trying to comfort you.

1:20:24It wasn't like he was like, well, look, if you don't like this, then we'll go ahead and switch some stuff up. Ric Flair was like, if you don't like it, learn to love it because it's the best thing going to day. That would piss me off so much. That's like cry me a river. Build a bridge. real glass get over it real glass real glass oh man so yeah nxt things are popping down there things are popping on raw things are popping on smackdown and then i was gonna say something about nxt oh yeah and uh with nxt there has to be just to piggyback a little bit on what Grayson Waller said in his pipe bomb promo but he's absolutely right in saying that somebody has to step up and be the you know the one of the staples like I think that's Tony D though yeah like Tony is champ though like I need I need it's one thing to have who I am coined my best player to be doing what he's supposed to do.

1:21:34But if I can get them role players to be stars, then you got a product that is going crazy. And I'm saying all this to say that because I know what NXT is. I know it's developmental. I know they're finding their ways. But what I'm saying is we need to have some people for that John Cena Invitational. Right. Which is coming up. When you think about what that Saturday night's main event was man, Ruka. It was like these people are without a shadow of a doubt. They are next. And I need to see who's going to be that guy for the company to be like, nah, you need to be paying attention to this right here.

1:22:19Because when I saw Zilla come in and how that crowd sounded to him, he sounded like he sound like he's supposed to be top dog. Right? Yeah. Like, that's how the fans reacted. Yeah, so I'm, you know, just saying I'm just saying, if I was somebody on NXT, I'd be highly motivated that this dude just ran in here and blew the roof off the place. Yeah, but that's nothing that anyone can do anything about, right? No, but it's motivating. It's motivating, but like, yeah, you're not going to get that reaction because you're not him. But there are dogs down there, man. There are people that are hungry. Miles Bourne is hungry.

1:22:56Tabion Heights is hungry. Stand out. I mean, they got gold. You're standing out right now. Mason Rooks is hungry. Keanu Carver is hungry. I like that guy. I like his music. Well, he don't like you because he don't like nobody. You know what I mean? My man don't like nobody down there. He could be a problem. There's definitely some cats down there that Tristan Angels, a lot of people took umbrage with what Grayson said. Hashtag Umbridge. Umbridge. So yeah, that's going to hopefully, I think a fire is already lit under a lot of these cats. It's going to make them turn it up a little bit higher. Like I said, man.

1:23:35Turn it up. You got to step up now because people are coming from the top show now to kind of try to take your spine. You don't want that to happen. Yeah, man. And we need people on NCW. Yeah. Bring your ass. Come on now. Hashtag bring your ass. And then tonight, you know, we got AEW Dynamite. It's Wednesday. You know what that means. What I saw announced so far for their card, pretty interesting, for the number two spot in the AEW All-In Casino gauntlet match, Nick Wayne, shout out to Mother Wayne.

1:24:08That was some of the best timing on looking at the camera I've ever seen. Versus MJF versus Speedball Mike Bailey. That's going to be a triple threat. We got a TNT Championship match. You know what matches I always like with Speedball? I feel like him and Fletcher always put on a high-quality match together. It's never on a pay-per-view. Well, that's funny because you name two people who put on good matches just in general. Kyle Fletcher always going to be in a good match. Speedball Mike Bailey's always going to be in a good match. I enjoy watching them go at it, but it's never on a pay-per-view.

1:24:42Even better. Now I get it for free. Then we got the TNT Championship match. Kevin Knight's going to take on Chris Jericho tonight. Break the walls down.

1:24:57Now, if Kevin Knight don't win this, I will be physically ill. I will be physically ill because the – I'm not going to get into detail because respect to Chris Jericho. I will tell you how the hot girl is. You can't – I mean, Chris Jericho is a legend in the game. Yeah, bro. So I'm going to just be chill and say, go, Kevin Knight. Well, no, don't be chill. I mean, you can't really... You better not beat Kevin Knight. Well, I think Chris... And you know what? People gonna say I'm saying that because he black? That's a portion of it. But like that... Chris Jericho's at a point now where just his name is elevating people and he's doing great work since he's come back, you know?

1:25:36He and Ciampa put on some bangers. So I'm not gonna say that he's gonna win, but I feel like he's gonna help elevate Kevin Knight. And I think that's... I just think about that Ciampa match and like... that ending was not what I needed it to be, bro. I couldn't even tell why the ref was calling for the bell. It was a drill, man. He took the drill and all of a sudden was like, oh yeah, that was the match. Was that a stipulation? Did he tap? What happened? Chris Jericho wins. Shut up. All right, cool, bro. It's a little deeper than that, but we'll move on. Continental Cup Challenge first round match.

1:26:19Jungle Jack Perry against Jon Moxley. And then another first round match in that Continental Cup. Jon Moxley better win that, man. Jay White against David Finley. So son of fit. We'll see how that goes. Jay White, I heard that someone put out that he got hurt, and I hope that's not the case. Obviously, if he's got a match tonight, he must not be hurt. We need Jay White to stay healthy. Yeah, wasn't he? Did he just recently? He just came back, man. That's what I'm saying. And he was gone. I want to say it was over a year. so we need a healthy Jay White because wrestling is better when Jay White is healthy man so yeah that's some good stuff to look forward to in AEW tonight also I'm sure we'll see Willow and that'll be fun you know Mercedes will be there, Tecla will be there, Stat Daddy will be there, Sky Blue will be there you know we need Anna Jay there I'm just throwing out some names of people we like like the CNAW but yeah the Kyle Fletcher thing is My man is so good.

1:27:18He's a beast, dude. He's so good. He's a beast. Like, you know, I was really annoyed when he cut his hair. Yeah, I remember he did that. He wanted to separate himself from Osprey, right? But now he's got that Randy Orton 09 look. Then he got all tatted up, but he did it. I think he's more, like, and yes, I mean, the comparisons to Randy are there, but I think when he has, you know, his rock star shit on, he reminds me of Brad Pitt in the beginning of the third act of Fight Club where he randomly has a shaved head, them glasses and like the whole nine when he's outside the van and stuff that's who he reminds me of, that's what I think he embodies Brad Pitt in Fight Club in the third act so yeah that's good, touch a little AEW touch a little touch what I want touch a little AEW we touch a little Raw a little Smackdown a little NXT we touch a lot of idiots you know which is coming out you know I don't know man I'm excited it's gonna be a good week of wrestling I feel I'm looking forward to Smackdown to see where everything's going there yeah man who knows we don't know that's one thing we never I know who knows Bo Jackson is there something that you're looking forward to after all the things we talked about is there a feud is there a match just something that we spoke about that you're like i can't wait to see because i said i'm looking forward to smackdown what are you looking forward to man you know me man oh baby i like it raw Sorry.

1:29:01But I want to see Solo and Jay and Jacob all forced to mingle in this bloodline. Jimmy and Roman have kind of been in the background, kind of been out of it, the old dogs of the crew. but honestly that might not be a bad spot to put jim yet but either way i i know there's gonna be some gold in that television right there you finally got all three brothers back together and now with jacob it is a you got jacob and jay their feud that they've done jacob in solo what they got going on from the new bloodline I love you Solo and then Solo and Jay just finished scrapping and going back and forth so like there's tension all through that little triangle right there and that makes for interesting television and I'm excited for it I gotta say this on like a real note you know we like to think of people that watch us as friends and family.

1:30:21If you've got some problems, come to us. I just want to read this. We got a DM in our inbox from a brother named Jason Perard. I don't want to read the whole thing, but basically he reached out, said he's a big fan of the show, what we do in the wrestling world. Jason just kind of, you know, he admitted to me that he's kind of going through it right now. Life kind of has beaten him down. He's going through some stuff. and, you know, he's just like, I'm going through it. I'm struggling. I'm all alone. I don't know what to do. Please just give me a shout out, man. I need it. So to Jason, man, whatever you're going through, brother, just hold it.

1:31:01Hang in there, dog, because everything tends to get better, right? Sometimes we get tested. We get taken to our lowest of lows before we ultimately see the bigger picture in things. The light at the end of the tunnel. The light at the end of the tunnel. So, Jason, whatever you're going through, brother, you know, we wish you the best for sending you love from us. And just hang in there, dog. You know, it'll get better. I'd love to say I can promise you that. I can't. But I hope it does, and I hope things turn around for you, man. And just know if you don't think you have any friends, you most certainly got two right here with us, man.

1:31:37So keep your head up, dog. Jason, whatever it is, man, this too shall pass. It is a storm, you know? That's all I can give you to visualize whatever's happening. This too shall pass. It's just about you, weathering the storm, honkering down, and there's so much life and things and wrestling that we don't want you to miss out on. We can't not have you. So I will say something that I tell myself and my close friends whenever they're going through a storm. Life's a bitch. Life is tough. But that bitch not tougher than you, dog. So like lock in, baby. We'll be here. Make sure you there too. Shout out to Jason.

1:32:32No doubt, Jay. Well, I think that's about it. I just wanted to make sure I got that out, man. because if, I mean, look, if someone's going to come to us with something like this, like, that kind of means a lot, man, because somebody sees something in us that they want to reach out and tap in with us, and maybe a word from us will help get them through the day. To me, that sounds wild because it's just I'm looking at, like, who am I? But, like, yeah, man, if that gets you through this day, man, I'll say hello every day to get you through a day. Yeah, man. And anyone else out there going through it, you know what I'm saying?

1:33:10Everything we said to him applies to you, too. Absolutely, man. Now, I know where I'm going, but TJ, can you tell them where to find us? Oh, yeah. So, two, catch up with us. And I'm thinking this is episode, I think we're at episode 97 now? 97? Yeah. I believe this is 97. So, to watch all of our episodes, from one to this one, You simply go to the Rich Eisen Show YouTube page and type in No Contest Wrestling. You'll be able to find all of our videos. Now, for your air gate, if you want to listen to us, find us on the ESPN app, on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, wherever you listen to podcasts. And then on social media, of course, on Twitter, we're at There's No Contest.

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