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1:13Let's do this. Let's do this. This is the Rich Eisen Show. With guest host, Andrew Siciliano. The kick is... No good! Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I get a lot of fans, including my father. Son? Yeah, Dad. Who stopped me and said, why are you talking about the Cowboys? Because this story right here moves the needle. Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Pro Football Hall of Famer Joe Thomas. Coming up, longtime golf writer Alan Shipnock. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Andrew Siciliano. Oh, that'll be me, Mr. Golf. I did recently, by the way. I got to get back to it.

1:58When I say back to it, I haven't sworn in a club in 20 years. I started taking a couple of golf lessons. I got one tomorrow. I'm telling you, I'm getting back in the game. I don't know if I could be like Rich and show up in Tahoe and actually play respectable golf and have a great time. But I'm trying, because you know why? Chris and Jason and TJ, I realize that I have, hello, gentlemen, again, I have missed out on 15 to 20 years of socializing, networking, and business opportunities. I really couldn't care less if I hit them straight, but I have missed out on all of that stuff because when people say, hey, you play, I'm like, nah.

2:38My clubs are in the garage. I haven't touched them in years, but you know what? Darn it, I'm taking a lesson. When you lose, I win. What is that? LeVar Ball. That's LeVar Ball from a long time ago. Okay. Yeah. It is the second round of the Open Championship. Across the pond. They're in Ireland. Royal Portrush. Brockman, you want to give me the update because my internet is slow and you actually got the screen. Yeah, sorry. Matthew Fitzpatrick, still your leader at nine under. Brian Harmon, Ha-Tung Lee, one back. Scotty Scheffler, two back. All right. Let's get an update, like a weather update.

3:15He's doing stuff at scratch. I mean, he's a legendary. golf writer alan shipnock actually joining us now from overseas alan it is great to see you sir how's the weather i'm here andrew i have to say i'm disappointed that you said that you're getting back into golf because of the networking and the business opportunities it's about like having fun with your boys that's part of it too huge oversight what are the reasons look what are the reasons people give up golf is because they're not good okay and and i i was not good i was good enough to show up and do like all the the celebrities not that i was one but like scrambles right hey it's a it's a fun corporate event media sports whatever do the scramble i was good enough to get at least one of my shots used that's all that mattered i had a couple of pops but yeah that was it i had never in my free time though ever played a round where when i made the turn i went yeah, I'm down for nine more.

4:13I was always like, now I'm good. You guys finish. Not that I quit. I was just like, hey, like if you're not any good and you don't want to take the time to work at it, it's just not fun. So I just put the clubs away for 15 years. And I decided like, what am I doing? It's the off season. Learn to play golf, you know? That's a sad story, but okay. Let's talk about the old.

4:34I'm sorry. All right. Let's talk. Let's talk Matt Fitzpatrick. Like, I mean, it's not like he's been ripping it up of late. What's going on here? Yeah, you know, he won the U.S. Open a few years ago and everyone thought he was going to be the man because he already had a reputation as playing really difficult golf courses very well because incredible short game, just a gritty, grindy player. And then he started doing speed training and he was actually pounding the ball off the tee. That was one of the keys to him winning the U.S. Open at Brookline, which is a big ballpark. And basically in the three years since he's done nothing.

5:11And this guy is incredibly fastidious. Like he's been charting every one of his shots and competitions since he was a teenager. He's obsessive. And it turned out he'd put some weights in his driver head to mostly for speed training, forgot to take them out. And he spent the whole year after the U.S. Open saying, why can't I hit a fairway? Like what's wrong with my golf game? Of all the people on tour, to make a bonehead mistake like that, he'd be the last guy you'd expect. So that actually makes me like him a little bit more. But it definitely derailed his career. He lost his confidence. He's had some nagging injuries.

5:46He got engaged to a TikTok influencer, which could be a distraction. So it looks like he's back. And he clearly still has that magical short game, some of the shots he's pulled off already in two rounds around Portrush. And if he's driving it well, he's very dangerous. How about Brian Harmon? Alan is 69 yesterday, a 65 today in these conditions. He loves him an open championship with some bad weather. Yeah, you know, Harmon felt like one of those guys who was going to win a major and that was going to be clearly the apex of their career. And he would just quietly kind of coast. But if he can get it done here, he goes into a whole different category.

6:30I mean, the list of players in this is the 153rd Open Championship. It's a very short list of guys who have won more than one. And so this would put him on a different plane as a player. And he's, you know, he's a bulldog, literally went to Georgia, but he has that mentality on the golf course. And he keeps it in play. You know, when you get the thing that's interesting about there's a lot of links courses, you know, the routing, they kind of go out and then back. And so the wind's very predictable. You know, it's coming off the right on the front nine. It's coming off the left on the back nine.

7:04But Portrush has this very circuitous routing, and the wind's always hitting you in different directions on every hole, it feels like. And you can see it get in the heads of the players. And hitting fairways is really at a premium on this golf course, more than most links, where you can spray it a little bit. You think of like St. Andrews or Royal St. George, some of these other venues. You can get away with it. But with the pot bunkers out here and the dunes, it's a steep penalty to miss on this golf course. And also, you can't really – a lot of the greens are elevated. A lot of them are crowned.

7:39It's not the kind of links where you can sort of recover by bunting one down the fairway and have it trundling all the way down to the green. It's much more exacting coming into these putting, these green complexes. And so it's massively important to be in the fairway. And when Brian Harmon is hitting fairways, you know, his iron game is so good and he's so efficient with the putter that he's going to be tough. I mean, you put him out in front and he's playing with confidence like this, it's not going to be easy to chase him down. Talking to Alan Shipnuck here at the Open Championship in Northern Ireland.

8:10You said it's a short list. It's a ridiculously short and impressive list. Men who have won the Open Championship twice. Here's the list. Arnold Palmer in 61 and 62. Lee Trevino, 71 and 72. Greg Norman, 86 and 93. Patty Harrington did it back-to-back in 07 and 08. And Ernie Ailes did it 10 years apart, 02 and in 12. Alan, the other three guys that did it were all back in the 1800s. So Brian Harmon can put himself in some fairly elite company if he could somehow pull this off. Yeah, and it's also big. you know it's a writer cup year and the teams are now starting to take shape you know we're still a couple months out but this you know the majors have extra points in how the teams are created as far as the allotment there's still a FedEx cup playoffs to go there's some big tournaments in Europe but we'll at the end of this week we'll know a lot about how the writer cup teams are shaping up and on paper right now I think Europe looks stronger so a Brian Harmon victory here becomes a big deal it just sort of sends a message like you know we went over to your turf we won your biggest championship uh we've got this guy in fine form who could be one of the emotional leaders and it was going to be a really tough environment at beth page so it would certainly resonate same thing though goes for you know matt fitzpatrick he he was probably borderline to make the writer cup team a big performance here cements his spot and gives Europe, you know, more firepower.

9:43So that's an underlying issue. You want to win the Open Championship, but certainly this as we're only really two months away from the Ryder Cup now, this is a big audition for a lot of these players and that's an important, you know, subplot. Talking to Alan Shipnick here at the Open Championship, some other names. Harris English was great yesterday, shot a 70 today. So he's now back to five under. Rory shot a 70 and then a 69 today. He is at three under at last check. Alan, that is six off the lead. Any chance at some magic over the weekend for him? Yes, because he's been scoring well while he's driving it off the planet.

10:26We know that Rory's superpower is his driver. It's up there with Ben Crenshaw's putter. Jack Nicklaus is one iron. He's one of the all-time weapons in this sport. and, you know, Gary Player Sandwich. You can make a short list. But Rory's probably the greatest driver of the golf ball in history, and that is the strength of his game, and that sets everything up for him. And yesterday he hit two fairways. He was 150th in 156-man field in driving accuracy, and he still managed to shoot an under-par round. He was a little better today, but, you know, he still hit one off line there on number two, had to take a penalty drop.

11:04Like if he, if he can just drive it like Rory McIlroy and then keep getting the ball in the hole. I mean, there's, there's been a lot of, you know, rounds already 65, 66, like he's fully capable of doing that. You know, he shot 61 on this golf course when he was 16, even in 2019, after his horrendous first round, he shot a 65 to almost make the cut. Like Rory knows he can go deep here. But tomorrow is massively important. You just can't give. I mean, you mentioned Harmon, of course, and Fitzpatrick, but there's also Scotty Scheffler. You cannot spot that guy too many strokes. I mean, he's at seven under when we started this interview.

11:42So Rory just can't give him five, six, eight strokes. It's going into Sunday. He's got to make up ground on Scotty as much as anybody else. And so tomorrow's kind of a do or die round for Rory. If he shoots something around par, he's out of the tournament. If he shoots something in the mid-60s, I mean the atmosphere is electric we saw that in 19 when when he was trying to make the cut we've seen it the last two days now you get the weekend crowds that are bigger a little boozier a little more working class he's he's clearly the the hero of Northern Ireland already and it will be an epic atmosphere if he puts himself in contention on Sunday so tomorrow becomes you know a do or die around for Rory bigger and boozier I love it I'm also looking at a video here that somebody sent me yesterday of ridiculous shot Phil made yesterday out of the bunker um tell me that that Phil can be part of I he I don't think it's gonna happen but I mean I can root for it right I mean we this room collectively can root for it right Alan oh I mean golf was way more interesting when Phil Mickelson's on the leaderboard that's not in dispute and this was the 103rd cut he's made at a major championship there's many great players who haven't even played in 103 majors He's made the cut in 103.

13:00It's the second biggest number in history behind Jack Nicklaus. I mean, Phil's longevity remains a marvel. He would be more dangerous at a really crispy open venue. Like if you think about when Tiger won in 06, and it was like at Liverpool, and it was like playing on the surface of the moon. There was no green out there at all, and the ball was racing around. Like Phil, Phil needs those conditions to compete at this point. You know, it's a testament to his, his will and his short game that he was able to make this cut, but he's given up too much firepower off the tee to these young, these young whippersnappers.

13:41And, and this, this golf course is probably not firm enough. If you put it, if you turn it into a short game contest, Phil is still as good as anybody through the bag, you know, he's given up a little too much, but just for him to make the cut is tremendous. And, you can never count this guy out I mean he could fall out of bed tomorrow and shoot a 64 and he's right there and it would be madness but I think that's probably a bridge too far for a guy who's in his mid to late 50s. Look at that shot eternal Phil just amazing Alan Shipnuck working with Scratchdown by the way it's with the K at S-K-R-A-T-C-H you can find him obviously on the socials at Alan Shipnuck we appreciate the time and the insight stay dry out there alan will you please yeah it hasn't been too bad i mean actually it's strangely balmy we need the temperature to drop 20 degrees like the open is about suffering it's a little too warm there's not enough rain there's barely enough breeze to mess up my hair like we need we need this to get a little nastier on the weekend and feel like a real open oh are you looking for those action shots of you out there with with a notebook with the hair blowing is that what you're looking for i mean i feel like we're straying into your fantasy life now no no no no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

14:55Like you just want it for the Graham, Alan. That's what I'm saying. Don't mind me. Yes, indeed. Yeah, no, I don't look good in any weather. It's for the glory of the championship. It's just more fun when the British Open, as some people still call it, is just gray and wet and everyone's having a miserable time. That's what you want. But we'll see how it goes. There's definitely some rain in the forecast. It's been pretty mild so far. Before we let you go, actually, one last thing. You mentioned gray. There's a lot of gray behind you. Did you take off? Is there any art in this hotel room? Are you living in a shipping container?

15:31What is this? Yeah. I'm sitting in Belfast, which is a wonderful town. People, it's not on the tourist radar, but it has so much soul. And actually, speaking of art, incredible murals. It's a beautiful place. But that room has no soul, Alan, is what we're trying to say. No, I'm not responsible for the decorations of my hotel room. Totally understand. totally totally get it all right uh last thing i promise uh brockman wants a winner not not because he has a gambling problem he just wants a winner well i always bet rory but who's gonna win alan it's it's just straight chalk but like i saw scott just made another birdie he's now one off the lead like he's the best player in the world tita green he's one of the best chippers and now he's turned his putter into a weapon so and he knows you can do it he's gonna to feel no pressure out there you you saw probably his press conference quotes he's like he went super miserable like he's just it's not no it's it's not that he's miserable he has the perfect work-life balance you know we talked about this with real jobs we don't really talk about with athletes but scotty is so centered with his family his his beliefs um and it frees him up and he just goes out there and plays some of the best golf we've seen since peak tiger so i mean he's he's the heavyweight favorite.

16:50I saw the betting odds. He was less than 2-1 and that was when he was still a few shots back. Now he's only one. Those guys know more than I do it feels like. You've got to take Scotty. But otherwise, also watch out for this kid, Hogard, from Denmark. He's the longest hitter in golf and the wind doesn't even touch his ball. He went deep today. He's only a few shots back. He'd be a dark horse if you need one. That'd be Rasmus Hogard. Alan, we held you too long. We appreciate you as always, man. Get back out there. Thank you, sir. Thanks for having me. See you. Alan Shipnock, everybody, from scratch.

17:26Love it. Love it. Appreciate you. Rasmus Hogard. Rasmus. 69-68. Nice. He is at 5-under. Update the leaderboard, please, because you're ahead of me. Brockman? Yeah. Matt Fitzpatrick, still your leader at 9-under. Scotty Scheffler, Brian Harmon, Howtong Lee, one back. Okay. And yeah, that is a sad story that I wanted to get back to golf. But like, I want to play. Like, yes, I want to play with my friends as well. In all seriousness, there have been, forget about business and networking, there have been so many times over the years where it's been like, hey, man, you're like, do you play? I need one.

18:00I need one. Can you come out here and play? I don't know. Like, my clubs are so old and gathering dust in the garage. When I, for the first lesson, went to get them, like, and you pick them up, like the grips all like deteriorated in my hand. You know what I'm saying? The rubber deteriorated, disintegrated in my hands. Like that's how bad they are. It's pretty bad. Yeah, that's pretty bad. I could sell them at an antique store. Coming up next, Chris Brockman with What's More Likely on The Rich Heisen Show. It's Saturday. Kickoff's getting close and your weekend project just hit a wall. You're short on materials or you need one more tool for the job.

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20:14Mike Del Tufo, are you out there, Mike? Yes, I'm here, Rich. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. So what are you revealing? You've got right here. Right up here above me is a brand new Rich Eisen Show sign. A new Rich Eisen Show sign. Am I going to do it now? You can see this. Yeah, here we go. Let's do it. Here we go. This is going to be fun. Just hope it doesn't come down in your head. What are the odds that he messes this up? because the way it's set up. Put down the microphone, dude. I can't. This is the worst reveal ever. Keep pulling, Deltooth. Just put the microphone down. This is good, Rich.

20:49This is good. He's going to break down the whole thing. Yes. Pull both of the cords, you... No, we cannot have this as the reveal. He does audio. This cannot be the reveal. He does audio. He does not do manual labor. It's the way it's messed up up there. I can't. Look, I can't. We called this. Walk up the stairs. Walk up the stairs, Del Tufo. Yeah, okay. The not reveal. He's going to walk up the stairs. Oh, no, I can't. Because I can't climb to where that is. Yeah, you can. Except for the story. No, you can't. You got to have a cable. You guys don't know OSHA rules. See, they screwed me. They did this on purpose.

21:26I'm convinced. Yeah, it's against you, Mike. I'm telling you. Del Tufo, just tell everyone out there you don't have any change for them. Just pull it. Give them good jersey pull. Put them on. Yeah, there you go. Watch. Put the microphone down and pull it. Pull the other one. You're a big man. Yank it. Yank it. Oh, jeez.

21:50By the way, this is way better than this guy. This is so much better. All right, come back in here and screw off the audio now, Mike.

22:04Oh, my. Del Tufo claims that it was somehow rigged against him. No, he just couldn't do it. Mike Del Tufo taking a Friday off. Shocking. This is my day now. Shocking. It's the Rich Heisen Show, everybody. I'm Andrew. Hi. Hi, Andrew. I texted Bronkman last night before I went to see the Superman movie. I'm like, hey, looking forward to tomorrow. Everyone in. I know Don's producing and RJ's directing, but everyone else, same crew, normal crew. and that was like a like that was my subtle way of saying is del tufo showing up but i'm sure i will see him i'm sure i will see him on the strand meaning the beaches here in southern california where i will be on a run or maybe i'll be on a phone call like to take my calls you know posting some vitamin d or maybe i'll be doing one of my silly aaron rogers walk talks, but inevitably, always run into two people.

23:06The great head coach of the University of Southern California men's basketball team, friend of the program, and friend, Eric Musselman. He must. And Mike Del Tuvo. On his electric bike. He's just like not pedaling. The mayor of Hermosa. Mayor of Hermosa. Absolutely. But he lives in Redondo. But he's always in Hermosa. I mean, they're one block away from each other. It's pretty close. Yeah, whatever. So I did see the Superman movie. It is. It's good. It's fine. It's like, I think it's well done. I think it's well done. I really sold it there. Right. No, no, no. Here's the deal. It's a well done movie.

23:45Like the guy who plays Superman. I forget the name. The guy or the woman rather plays Lois Lane. Okay. They, I thought it was well done. Truly well done. The dog's adorable. Like it's the dog's a big part of the story. It's, it's a well done movie. and a lot of it a shot in Cleveland, like that final shot in the arcade, some other shots throughout the film. If you know, you know. I wanted to see it. I enjoyed it. That said, I don't really go to comic book movies. I love me the Batman films, right? They're kind of dark. They're different. They don't feel like comic book movies. I know that sounds absurd.

24:18It's about a man in a rubber suit that fights crime. It's a comic book movie, but generally speaking, I've never seen an Avenger film. I just don't see any of them. They do nothing for me. I don't know the difference between DC or Marvel or whatever. I don't know but I wanted to see this at about 20 minutes into it I'm like I forgot it's a comic book movie eh this is corny but then by the end you're like alright I'm back they did a really good job so if that's your thing definitely go see it definitely like it was good but like last night was a it's the day after the all star like it's during the all star break there ain't anything to watch nothing like I could start a new show.

24:58I finished quarterback when I got home. Quarterback is amazing. Netflix, NFL films, like they do an amazing show. We watched Rookie of the Year last night. The movie. The movie. You and Cage? Yeah. Okay. Sarah, we watched it. It was great. First time for Cage. Henry, we loved it. Great. Rosenbagger. Love it. Henry Rowan. Love it. So last night I decided, like I worked out of my early dinner. I'm like, you know, I don't want to go see a movie. So when saw it and I liked it, it was good. you know don't need to go see another comic book movie but it was good go see it f1 i saw two weeks oh i need to see that's fantastic i need to go see that one that is amazing that is make sure you sit in the center of the theater and get all the sound and all that good it is as loud a movie as you will sit in i don't remember a louder movie it is not only with the hans zimmer soundtrack and the score and race cars.

25:54Race cars are loud. It's just in. Absolutely worth seeing. And that's my movie review. I will not clearly be doing this for a living. She's saying it's louder than a quiet place. Is that what you're trying to? Yes. I see what you did there. Well done. And RJ is blowing me up during the movie. RJ is directing today going, Tupac or Biggie? What? Yeah, I swear. Tupac or Biggie? And I'm like, about what? It's Thursday, July 17th, 2025 at 8 o 'clock Pacific. What led you to ask me Tupac or Biggie right now? And I answered, honestly, this is an odd answer. Neither. I love them both. I get them both.

26:39But rap, like love of hip hop is not a binary choice. Like people always boil it down. Tupac or Biggie? I'm like, I sure like them both. Neither is my favorite. Is that okay? See, here's what I need you to do right now, because if someone's just tuning in and they heard you say that, they're probably thinking, oh, Andrew doesn't like rap. So we got to let them know that is not the case. My tastes are quite old. I don't like a lot of today's stuff because I'm a grumpy old man. But then RJ asked, well, then who do you like? I'm like, I'm a Tupac. I'm sorry. I'm a Q-tip fan. That's just me. Again, there's a joke.

27:16But I'm a Tribe Called Quest fan. Right? That's me. That's who I am. That's my genre. That's my age group and demographic. And that's me. Time now, however, to get away from 50-year-old white guy talking 90s hip-hop. And now, ladies and gentlemen, Chris Brockman has a game for you. What's more likely? Hit it. What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never.