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23:59Rich Eisen:You know, because I'm a New Yorker who went to the University of Michigan. got it and the only two thank listen this is what we call first class problems man type because of what i've done from sports center all the way to the present day from 96 to now is i don't i don't i'm not emotional about sports that much anymore okay okay but the two entities that get me very emotional where i have to snap out of it if they lose is michigan football and and new york yankees baseball yeah michigan football is a big thing i i had a thing against michigan first you know Michigan was my first away game as a collegiate athlete.

24:34Okay. In the big house, huh? In the big house. Okay. I knew what rivalries were until I went to the big house as a member of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team. And when I got off that bus, things were being said to me. Oh. Yeah, yeah. So that was my first experience. I didn't hear that in Hawaii. I didn't even know those words were even in the dictionary.

24:56Rich Eisen:They still aren't. Urban dictionary. Depends on the dictionary. but so I've had that's how I felt against Michigan until you know recently past five years I met some amazing people from Michigan Jamie Erdahl her husband Sam shout out to Sam he's a Michigan alum proud normally they tell Sam Jamie you know he married up but Jamie knows how I feel about Michigan and then J.B. Fitzgerald who's my agent he also went to Michigan so I'm surrounded by a bunch of Wolverines now. Yeah, I love him. I know him too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations on being surrounded by Michigan people and important parts of your work life.

25:38Rich Eisen:I love it. I love it. That's why everything's changed for me in Michigan now. Look at you now. Still, I rent Rudy hoping he pops a clock. And Rudy has heard that and he wants to fight me apparently. The real Rudy. The real Rudy is Rudy. Rudy Rudiger, huh? Yeah, because he was off sides. Sorry. What's my problem? It's very hostile and aggressive. Manta's bigger than you. It's all level been here, brother. I do it to Bettis, too. And by the way, so Bettis' kid is there. Larry Fitzgerald kid is there now. Marcus Freeman is crushing it. I actually like him, right? Did I tell him that, too? I think so.

26:22Rich Eisen:I like him so much. He makes me forget my dislike for Notre Dame football. He's a very likable man. And I was rooting for Notre Dame football in the national championship game. You're coming around, Rich. But I was out of spite. You're asking which one do I not like the most. And they play each other for the championship. I get that. At least you're rooting for us a little bit, though. I'll take that as a win. For four quarters. How'd it go for you, though? You know? Oh, yeah. It was rough. You know, I struggled because when I went to the first and only game that I went to that year was a Northern Illinois game.

26:54Rich Eisen:Oh, no. I'm sorry to hear that. I know. And so like the narrative was like, bro, you guys lost because Manti was at the game. So I took one for the team and I stayed home for the national championship because I didn't want an event that anything happened. I didn't want that bad juju around the team. But it was an exciting game. The first half, I know it was a little slow, but just in normal Marcus Freeman team fashion, he started to fight back in the end. I couldn't be more proud. He's really, really, really good. Yeah. Elite. And by the way, and I will just say this, calling out my Ohio State friends, the Ohio State friends, when Ohio State lost to Michigan in the final game of the regular season, and it was all blowing up in their world, which obviously yada, yada, yada, five weeks later, everything's fine.

27:41Rich Eisen:Everybody wanted day out Marcus Freeman in because he went to school at the Ohio State. and so you know instead they go on this run for the ages and now they still claim them both in the same way they still claim burrow and burrow still claims them and it pisses me off all right i'm gonna get out of this man that tail here on the rich eisen show uh how are you enjoying your gig now you like it i'm loving it it's a it's a great team i think that's the main thing about where where i'm at right now is i wanted to be a part of a good team with with good people and man let me tell you when you're surrounded by somebody like jamie erdahl and and kyle brant and just how their brain works.

28:19Right. You're seeing what's on the prompt, but then they're saying a whole bunch of other stuff. Sure. I'm just constantly just trying to soak up information and knowledge from them. So it's been a true blessing. That's awesome.

28:29Rich Eisen:So let me put you through the paparazzi paces right now. Your Super Bowl contender of note, number one, top of your list, who is it? 2025, Vanti Teo. I know we're a month away. You got to flex these muscles now because he's going to be asked of you very shortly see rich i was taught this by kyle brandt is we have a segment on our show which make a pop culture reference and dodge the question where we have a specific prediction week where we save all of our stuff for that prediction week so i gotta but that's also a kG way of saying you know i'm not answering the question because i need to save it for my show you know that's essentially what you said so then give me your top contenders so i i really like the buffalo bills um i think a sleeper coming out this year out of the afc is the denver broncos i really think that what sean payton has over there straight day we're straight today yeah they're real denver broncos richard they're looking scary man um what sean payton has been able to do with bo nicks that offense he has a two-back system now a true two-back system which is what he's always wanted he had that in new orleans when i was there with Alvin Kamara and Mark Ingram.

29:42Rich Eisen:So Dobbins is his Ingram and RJ Harvey is his Kamara? Yeah. That's how even Audrey could be in that Mark Ingram kind of equation. I don't mean to leave out the Notre Dame guy. I'm sorry. So you did a true Michigan guy. Whatever. I'm sorry. Keep going. I like them out of the AFC. The Chargers could also be one of those as well. The AFC West. I know there's a lot of talk about the NFC North, but the AFC West, am I opinion is the division to watch this year not only with the talent but if you look at all of the coaches over there all of those coaches have played in the super bowl right there's only one that hasn't won a super bowl and that's jim harbaugh but he's won everywhere else he's been so that's you think about that pedigree and you just can only assume that the competition coming out of that division is going to be something okay and again i know you're relatively new to the paparazzi nfl media front here um but you left out the chiefs and if you do that but it's it is an annual ritual one would have um if somebody wins the division eight straight years yeah this is the finally the year because it cannot happen this the broken clock is going to have to be right once before it's right twice yeah and so this is the year you think i don't think it's a year but but the thing is everybody has to understand is what the chiefs is from weeks one through 17 there they play okay it's when they get into the playoffs that they morph into something called a champion and they start to play at championship caliber football yes if you don't allow the chiefs to get into the playoffs and that's why i bring up the broncos and the chargers because they're in that division now we've had seen throughout the years three teams from one division go to the playoffs yes if that happens it's oh you it's hard to go against patrick mahomes in the playoffs.

31:33It's just hard. Yeah. So it's going to come down to the contenders in that division to see what happens to the Chiefs because right now it's probably the most competitive one. And out of the NFC, I got to say, that building right next to where we work, there's a team that's playing out of there called the LA Rams that that signing of Devontae Adams, Rich, is probably one of the most dangerous signings for a defensive player to go against that offense. Why? all well if you look at Pukunuku and Cooper Cup what they had before right they they played this the same position so it's hard to have to divvy up shares there when you have the guy that plays the same position that's what that's what they had before now you have Devontae Adams who's a true X receiver one of the best at his job ever to ever play the game now you have what the Cincinnati Bengals have with T Higgins and Jamar Chase where you Pukunuku is Jamar Chase where you move him everywhere you could use him anywhere you want to but then you have davante adams and if you give matt stafford the luxury of just looking at your defense and seeing where your safety is at and seeing if you have somebody over number 17 or not and him being able to identify that defense so quickly like that because he's done it forever he's done forever rich and then even at that point if you still stick both safeties back there to guard against the past you still have to guard against Kyron and Kyron Williams is a rugged runner who can play 99 of the snaps for you if you're the LA Rams and so if you have that dynamic offensively with Matt Stafford at the helm

33:07Rich Eisen:it's it's scary you know especially since it all does predicate off the run with McVay always and so if the run game is working because there's also a Michigan Wolverine in that running back room but and you're right Kyron doesn't come off the field because because he does have the ability to pass block on third down unlike a lot of um running backs and on unlike a lot of running backs he doesn't touch the top of his helmet a lot at all and if the offensive line can hold up right and they they have the tight end position down um it's pretty freaking dangerous well the thing about these the one back approaches is this is it it keeps everything at your disposal see when you send in a scat back yes defensively i know 80 of the time you're going to throw the ball So there's a tendency marker that defensively I can get into your huddle a little bit.

33:57I was like, okay, if I see Alvin Kamara back there, yeah, he can run the ball, but you're mainly here to throw him the ball. So defensively, when you have Kyron in the game first and second and third down, I don't know what you're going to do. You know what I mean? It just puts the defense in a very uncomfortable situation and in position to be. And so I look at the LA Rams as a team offensively and defensively with one of the best head coaches in the game and Sean McVay, they're going to be dangerous.

34:24Rich Eisen:Yeah, Jared Verse, a lot of folks are saying this is a defensive player of the year type of guy coming off of winning defensive rookie of the year. So you like them. First of all, when they play the Eagles, they just have to stop Saquon, at least hold them under 200 yards, right? Because he was the one who torched them. You could say that he was the one, you know, who essentially, you know, finished them off last year and then also, you know, stuck it to him in a very crucial measuring stick game on a Sunday night. Yeah, yeah. So put it all together, though, how do you like the Eagles coming back and potentially repeating?

34:59I really love the Eagles, and this is why I love the Eagles, is because offensively they have almost zero turnover. Right. You know, they lost Mekhi Becton. He went to the Chargers. But other than that, you have the same guys in there, the same identity, all of that. The biggest question for the Eagles to me is with all the departures defensively. Now you lost some key guys as far as figures in the locker room with Brandon Graham retiring and Darius Slay going to the Steelers. Like those two guys, like there's a dynamic of play on the field, but then impact in the locker room. Those two guys are locker room guys.

35:30They're the guys that as a coach, if you're Nick Sirianni, you can say, do it like Brandon Graham would. Now you don't have a Brandon Graham in there to point to. So can Jalen and Jalen Carter them step up and be that for the Eagles? Because you look at that Eagles talent-wise, probably the most talented defense in the NFL right now top to bottom and so I look at the Eagles coming out of the East as being that contender to go against somebody like the Rams and now it's gonna be a tale of the two they

35:57Rich Eisen:lost their OC again too you know when I was interviewing Jalen Hurts before the Super Bowl last year for game day morning and talked to him about all the different offensive coordinators he's had from college I mean literally from college where you know Dayball was there in our Alabama then he wasn't then he He goes to Oklahoma. Then he goes to the pros. And they constantly, you know, then there goes Doug Peterson. In comes Sirianni. There goes Shane Steichen, right? Now here goes Kellen Moore. And I'm like, all the different guys. He said, tell me about it. Knowing that he was going to lose Kellen Moore pretty much.

36:30Rich Eisen:And so how will that affect things is a big question mark. And that's the biggest question mark involving the Lions, right? Is that they lost both coordinators. The last time the Eagles did that, they didn't make the Super Bowl after making it. Yeah, no, it's going to be something. I think defensively for the Lions, it isn't going to be that big of a transition because Coach Shepard, who was that linebacker coach over there for the past four years, he knows the guys. He knows the personnel. He was under Aaron Glenn. So I think there's not going to be maybe a little difference as to how he calls the plays, but not what he calls.

37:05I think they run the same thing offensively. That's going to be the thing that I think we're going to miss a lot with Ben Johnson not being there is all those trick plays and those things to kind of take advantage of defenses in a very creative way, which Ben Johnson was so good at. But the identity of that team is Dan Campbell. You know, Dan Campbell, rugged, hard-nosed Detroit style. You know, and I think that's something that's going to forever be there as long as Dan Campbell's there.

37:28Rich Eisen:Okay, so let's follow Kyle Brandt's direction. Keep it quiet until, you know, good morning football's prediction week. Thanks, Rich. But I think so Rams-Broncos. Did I hear that? I like that. Did I hear that? Those are guys that I have. You're circling around them? Yeah, like vultures, just circling them. You're circling around it? Yeah. Okay. Hey, man, I'm high on the Rams too. Very. We shall see. And if you want to just really extrapolate it out, I mean, you think the Rams want to win the Super Bowl in the home and the Niners? I don't know. You know, and just basically put their mark, you know, like that hydrant, lift a leg on that hydrant, you know what I mean, forevermore?

38:05Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Like that's the sort of stuff. you know michael ervin who's our guest an hour two was on game day morning um you know we were all together in tampa um and everybody was choosing the chiefs that was in that covid super bowl and everyone's choosing the chiefs the chiefs are gonna because you know and then michael's like nah i'm taking the bucks yeah and we're like why and he basically gave you know the football reason but then also said there is no way the bucks will allow another team to come into their house and win a Super Bowl yeah like they'll never be able to walk on this field again without thinking about it and they will not do it and guess what I mean they didn't LA Rams did that when they played the Bengals right that came really close it came close but Aaron Donald exactly exactly right but you know at least they had him um thanks for coming here of course really appreciate it let's do this more regularly you know the way now yeah I know the way okay I also I'm going to bring a Notre Dame jersey just for you, Rich.

39:04You could do that.

39:05Rich Eisen:We'll put it somewhere special. Good to see it in the bathroom. We have different opinions on the definition of special. There's a lot of wall space here. There is. Bring whatever you'd like. Just bring yourself, okay? Manti Teo, check him out every single day on Good Morning Football. That's NFL Network. Friday, Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. Eastern time. And then, of course, GMFB overtime after that, that precedes this show right here on the Roku channel. Thanks for coming. Thanks, brother.

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40:45Rich Eisen:So we could have had a movie about somebody who's, what, half nothing, 100 pounds nothing. Could have called it David, huh? And then we could have had Bo. We could have had Bo up there, and everybody could have put their Michigan jerseys on the desk. Did that really happen, David? Well, of course not. Didn't you know that? But you know something? The other night, you know, you got me going, because the other night, I just Googled. I just said, how much of this blank is true? And I started putting in a list of sports movies. Okay. You know, we are Marshall, the blind side, remember the Titans, blah, blah, blah.

41:23We come off like a Ken Burns documentary compared to most of those movies. Oh! Line of the day! All right!

41:35I'm not joking, you know?

41:37Rich Eisen:Do you want to explain to me what you told me on Monday, that Rudy has heard what I've had to say about this subject? This is the best part. I haven't told my guys about this, but please, I give you the floor. Is this true that what I have said into this microphone has filtered in the direction of Mr. Rudiger? We're directly to Las Vegas, Nevada. Yes. And it was very interesting. I have not talked to Rudy. Angelo has. Okay. And apparently Rudy was pretty incensed, incensed enough to go to his neighbor, Mike Tyson, and ask him if he would train him to get you in the rain to put you where you belong.

42:18Hold on a second. Back the truck up. Hold on. So the real Rudy lives in Las Vegas next to Mike Tyson?

42:27Rich Eisen:Who he has apparently asked for training tips. So he could come in my room. You know what? Rudy could. I heard this through Angela. What? But it could have been. I know that Floyd Mayweather. It might have been Mayweather. Oh, my gosh. Oh, by the way, what was not in the movie is that when Rudy was at Holy Cross and he was, you know, trying to come off as a Notre Dame student, getting in the cheering section, painting helmets, all that. But he also joined what they called, and I don't know if they do it today, but it was a campus-wide boxing tournament. And it was called the Bengal Bouts. And, dudes, he won it.

43:13As a Holy Cross student masquerading as a Notre Dame student. And he won. And we had it originally in the script, but we had to cut it out.

43:22Rich Eisen:Well, now hearing about his ability to fight and his desire to fight. Yeah, you better start playing nice with Rudy. Boy, what a great film this is, David. I mean, now you can tell me the backstory. I mean, wow. It's quite a moving piece of cinema that you put together. I'll never forget when I got on the phone with David Anspaugh. I was during the pandemic, I think. And he told me on the phone, oh, yeah, Rudy wants to beat you up. I think I called you. I'm like, wait till you hear what's going on. We're going to have David Anspaugh on the program, and you'll never guess what's coming. Yeah. And the last two Fanatics fast died.

44:00I've been secretly hoping that we ran into Rudy. Yeah. Just back, you know, backstage. No, no.

44:08Rich Eisen:Oh, hey, Rudy. Oh, Rudy. And I'd be like, oh, would you like to meet my friend Charles Woodson? He's here too. 844-204-RICH. Number to Dom. We didn't lead with this today because there's an actual football game to be played tonight. But we've been talking a lot of Cowboys. Yeah, we sure have. And it's all been about like what's up with Micah and do the Joneses know what they're doing and why are they dragging it out and how does that. How does that actually lead to results, poorly or not, for the Dallas Cowboys later on this season? Let's talk a little bit more positives here, right? And how about it includes their coach as the positive?

44:45Rich Eisen:Because as you all know, well, I mean, it all started with Mike McCarthy, you're out. Brian Schottenheimer, who's never done it before, you're in. Because we at the Dallas Cowboys aren't going to go hire an elite coach because they're expensive, and plus, you know, we want coaches to do what we want them to do. And the elite coaches might give, you know, a little pushback. Or maybe they'll make him elite. That's the narrative. That's the narrative. But, you know, this is the son of Marty here. That's what I'm saying. And this is his one shot. And I don't think, to use the Hamilton phrase, he's going to throw it away.

45:19Rich Eisen:And he's not going to countenance his players fighting with each other during training camp. So apparently a fight broke out in Oxnard, California. He steps in, breaks it up, airs him out, and then makes the players and other coaches run laps. Love it. Whoa. Yes, this happened in Oxnard, California yesterday. CeeDee Lamb, you have the floor after that all went down. What did you think of Brian Schottenheimer's way of handling this training camp brouhaha? It's been a while, but I feel like that was really necessary. I honestly like what he's doing because we need discipline. We need to be able to go through that line.

46:05Rich Eisen:You know what I'm saying? We need to have that availability towards the team and then that aggressiveness at the same time to be able to be as mad and fight between the whistles. And then as soon as the whistle is done, we're going to line it up again. So I'll see you next play type. We need to have that type of energy, not we're going to get it done right here, right now, no matter what. So shout out Shadi for that. But as for us, we just got to be the best group that we can. Who was the PG version of what shot his message? It looked like he had a few curse words. Do we want to be champions? Because throughout the years of us being here, talent was never the problem for us.

46:40It was always discipline. How do we get ahead and not behind? You know what I'm saying? How do we not shoot ourselves in the foot? How do we not hurt ourselves? Obviously, when the momentum is going our way, we need to continue to keep our foot on the pedal and make the right play and always think about the team.

46:58Rich Eisen:Do you want to be champions? I like this. Calling them out. That's the PG version. I believe that sounded like our friend Clarence Hiller. What's the PG version of what Schottenheimer said to the group? Do you want to be champions? And how about him saying, there's not been the talent around here, it's been the discipline. Because you do see a lot of foot shooting moments, obviously, by the Dallas Cowboys. Sometimes it was play calling. Sometimes it was timeouts. That's obviously on the coach. And other times it was on execution. That's on the players. But he's saying it's definitely on the coaches, too.

47:29Yeah, Schottenheimer already had come out and said he wasn't, basically, he wasn't down for fighting in camp. And I guess that just proved it.

47:37Rich Eisen:Brian Schottenheimer getting the job done would be quite the plot twist, would it not? You know, about a month ago, everyone was kind of clowning on Schottenheimer. And I said, because of the one little blurb that we heard, and I told you, I listened to his whole press conference, and I bought in, man. I really did, because like we said, he's a coach's son. What was his sound bite that made you? I forget. Do you remember what it was? He just said something, and it went around, and it kind of made him look. Yeah, but then I watched the whole thing, and I was like, nah, I really, I like this message.

48:07I like what he's doing. Like you said, he's the son of a legend. He had to have picked up on things, right, coaching-wise, and he just never got his chance. It took this long for someone to give him a chance. And I can guarantee you that he's not going to go out there and just blow it.

48:23Rich Eisen:Well, it would be helpful if he is Micah Parsons and CeeDee Lamb. That's what happens when somebody's holding in or not having a contract. Everybody else gets asked the question. And CeeDee was in this position last year. Let's not forget Jerry Jones when he heard people screaming, pay Micah. He said that that's not as loud as when it was last year. Some people took that as a shot that CD is more popular than Micah, but Jerry pointed out he meant that we're louder last year because CD literally wasn't here, which makes things worse. So CD's been through all this. He was asked advice that he would give.

48:59Rich Eisen:It's two cents on the Micah Parson situation. It sucks. Like, it's terrible, to be honest. But as for Micah, his is to dominate one player that's in front of him. So I feel like for him, it's just like whenever you let them shackles loose on him, he's going to be literally an uncaged tiger or a lion, essentially. So for him, just keep his head on right. Stay positive throughout this whole thing. We know it's going to get figured out. And when it does, we're going to act like none of this happened. I'm going to ask him for$100 ,000, and he can't tell me no because he has it. He says$100 ,000 for me.

49:37Rich Eisen:See, now you're being nosy. that's my money oh having fun with it because he's right i told you it sucks it sucks to be in this position you have your self-worth you wish that management would match your vision of your self-worth not just monetarily but in time you're like let's go like we know this is going to happen what's the point let's let's go and of course dallas's joneses are pushing back saying takes two to tango he's got to want to get paid you know all that sort of stuff and it just sucks he's walking around everybody knows he's why he's not participating they see it they're trying to buck him up cd's been through it but he also knows at the end of the day he wound up smiling with a ton of cash and they act like it doesn't nothing ever happened and he's a good teammate because he he corrected his choice of uh the analogy of a of an animal you know like Micah refers to himself as a lion he's a Nittany lion so he went tiger and then he corrected himself to lie at the end of the day he's going to be there and at the end of the day it's going to be on the players to execute and if they have a coach that's selling stuff that they're buying in a way that they didn't have sold to them over the last few years with all due respect to Mike McCarthy and his tenure there I mean C.D.

51:01Rich Eisen:Lamb said discipline was missing, how about them apples? And if it's there right now, off we go for the Dallas Cowboys, man. On the first night of preseason, cannot wait, first night of regular season, Dallas at Philly, big-ass measuring stick. Michael Irvin coming up. You were saying, sorry, we've only 15 seconds left in the radio hour. The discipline thing kind of checks because it can't be the talent because this team over the last, I don't know, two decades or so has had at least 21st or 2nd all NFL team members that are Dallas Cowboys. So the talent has definitely been in Dallas, but the results have not been there, obviously, as everyone knows.

51:48Rich Eisen:Vegas thinks they're going to be under.500 this year. I think that's a little bit out of pocket. So they think the over-under is at 8.5? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, if you bet over 8.5, you're getting plus money. I'm going to do that. Didn't Susie make Irv play the win-loss game when she sat in this chair? Yeah, Tulo sent us an email about that. He had him at 12. Did she not write it down? He had him at 12 and 5. He did. 12 and 5. TJ, I got this signed and notarized by Jay Fowley. 11 and 6. 11 and 6. TJ prediction. Yes. Irv had a starting off 3 and 0, beating Philly, beating the Giants, beating Chicago, losing the Green Bay, and then going on a one, two, three, four, five, six-game winning streak.

52:34Rich Eisen:That's at the Jets, at the Panthers, Washington Commanders, at the Broncos, home for the Cardinals at Vegas. It's interesting he has them winning at the Jets since we called a game in London back in the day. All went to dinner afterwards. He brought his iPad with him with the NFL League pass on. He was watching the game, streaming it at the table, Dallas and the Jets. I was having it on my phone on the ESPN app, you know, with the dot, you know, that arcs for completed passes, and then Xs for incomplete passes, and then straight lines for touchdowns, right? So I was in front of him. I was in front of him.

53:17Rich Eisen:The app was before his stream. So I saw Sam Darnold hit somebody with a pass, or it was picked off in return for a touchdown against the Cowboys. And I knew a Jet touchdown was coming. Said nothing. Watched Michael Irvin. Watch it. He got so upset, he grabbed his iPad, left the restaurant, went back to the hotel, and to this day still has not given his portion of the bill. I think we should lead with that. No, I don't know. If he starts talking mess about the Cowboys, Oh, they're definitely going to beat the Jets in New York or New Jersey. Pardon me. Sorry, Bills fans. It's New Jersey. I get it.

54:00Rich Eisen:Then I'll have to say something. I don't know if I really want to. The way I introduce him is going to be epic, by the way. Because I think he's. That's right. Michael Irvin coming up.

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