NFL Network Host Scott Hanson

11 Aug 2025 · 51 min · 20 chapters

Ask about this episode

Ask anything about it. ChatGPT or Claude reads this page and answers with the times it was said.

Connect VO and ask about every podcast you hear, including the moments you saved. Add to ChatGPT · Add to Claude

In short

Scott Hanson, host of NFL Red Zone, discusses his re-signing with NFL Red Zone, the evolving media landscape (ESPN/Disney deal not yet official), Red Zone tech changes (virtual first-down measurements replacing the sticks), and what he’s excited about for the 2025 season. He also shares personal football-fandom history, career background, and thoughts on AI voice/hosting.

Guests (backgrounds)

Scott Hanson is the long-time NFL Red Zone host (NFL Network). Tom Pelissero is filling in for Rich Eisen as guest host. Earlier segments include Mike Garofalo (NFL Network insider) and Chase Daniel (14-year NFL veteran; NFL Red Zone/Red Zone analyst).

Key claims

Hanson says he’s staying with NFL Red Zone via a multi-year deal. He argues ESPN won’t “own” Red Zone exclusively this year; it will remain available via TV providers, NFL.com/Red Zone, and NFL Plus. He’s concerned the new measurement system could disrupt Red Zone’s timing rhythm due to lag.

Notable examples

Hanson grew up near the Pontiac Silverdome, rooting for Lions legends Billy Sims and Barry Sanders. He cites Bengals as a likely “Red Zone” team for high-scoring shootouts. He discusses Red Zone’s potential to adapt to faster first-down measurement visuals.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Chapters

Tap a time to open that second in VO

Scott Hansen Joins the Show

0:33 to 1:00

Host Tom Pelissero engages with Scott Hansen about his excitement for the upcoming NFL season and nostalgic football memories.

“So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for.”

Scott Hansen Joins the Show

1:40 to 4:25

Host Tom Pelissero engages with Scott Hansen about his excitement for the upcoming NFL season and nostalgic football memories.

“The legend himself, Scott Hansen, host of NFL Red Zone, in studio with the fellas here.”

Scott Hansen's Detroit Roots and Favorite Players

4:25 to 6:35

Scott reminisces about growing up in Detroit, his favorite players, and the history of the Lions.

“Okay, so I grew up in the Detroit area, suburbs of Detroit.”

Discussion on NFL Red Zone and Contract News

6:35 to 7:45

Scott discusses his recent contract negotiations and the future of NFL Red Zone amidst rumors.

“it'd be the biggest Super Bowl in the history of this sport.”

Clarifying NFL Red Zone's Future on ESPN

7:45 to 10:00

Scott clarifies the status of NFL Red Zone and its availability for viewers after the ESPN acquisition.

“So I was in a contract year with the NFL to continue with NFL Red Zone.”

Changes and Evolution of NFL Red Zone

10:00 to 14:00

The conversation shifts to the evolution of NFL Red Zone, including changes in how games are presented.

“of the American sports fan as it is in the NFL.”

Red Zone Evolution and Technology

14:00 to 16:48

Learn about the evolution of the Red Zone broadcast and new measurement technology for NFL games.

“And we'll see you September 7 to give you the best that we can.”

Exciting Storylines for the Upcoming Season

16:48 to 19:17

Discover key storylines and players to watch for in the upcoming NFL season.

“The entire rhythm of it is going to change.”

The Journey of Scott Hanson

19:17 to 22:28

Explore Scott Hanson's career journey from a small-town broadcaster to a prominent sports host.

“The NFC North is going to be a division that is just, you could make a case for every one of those teams winning the division.”

The Challenges of Live Sports Broadcasting

22:28 to 26:33

Understand the challenges and nuances of live broadcasting across various sports.

“In other words, you have to have some battle scars on you to kind of know what you're doing through life or through a profession, through a trade.”
Show all 20 chapters

Innovations in Gaming and Broadcasting

26:33 to 28:03

Learn about Scott Hanson's involvement in gaming and the future of sports broadcasting technology.

“When I cut to the Cowboys-Eagles game, I never have to say, so there's 11 men over here, and there's 11 men over here, and they're trying to move the football in this direction.”

Madden Franchise Mode Insights

28:03 to 29:56

Learn about the exciting integration of AI commentary in Madden franchise mode.

“Let's say you're playing Madden, and you are the Baltimore Ravens, and you're playing franchise mode.”

AI in Sports Broadcasting

29:57 to 30:29

Explore the implications of AI on sports broadcasting and the need for legal protections.

“did you put in there that they can't use AI Scott Hansen at any point?”

The Future of Sportscasting

30:39 to 32:39

Discuss the importance of human touch in sports commentary versus AI.

“My dad, when I told him, Dad, I want to become a sportscaster.”

Scott Hanson's Experience and Predictions

32:41 to 33:15

Scott shares insights on the future of AI in sports commentary and his own career.

“is going to be much harder than just simply the formula says we're going to now describe this.”

Technical Difficulties and Humor

35:04 to 36:33

The team faces humorous challenges while revealing the new show sign.

“Right up here above me is a brand new Rich Eisen show sign.”

Matthew Stafford's Injury Update

36:35 to 42:01

An in-depth look at Matthew Stafford's back injury and its implications for the Rams.

“All right, come back in here and screw off the audio now, Mike.”

Matthew Stafford's Injury Concerns

42:01 to 44:04

Discussion on Matthew Stafford's back pain and potential recovery.

“A couple bad fumbles in the weather, probably weather-related fumbles by Kyron Williams and Matt Stafford.”

Actor Recognition and Film Stories

45:58 to 50:00

Discussion on actor recognition and stories from notable films.

“I've asked you this before, but I'll ask it again because it's the first time that you're here in studio.”

Tom's Movie Experience on Airplane

50:01 to 51:37

Tom shares his experience watching movies on a plane, including Jaws.

“Teltufo in particular is just so horrified when I say certain movies that I haven't seen.”
Hear the part that matters, and keep it.Open this episode in VO. Double tap your headphones to save a moment as you listen.
Get VO free

Transcript

Automatic transcript. May contain errors.

0:00Get your tickets now for the Dog Stars. It's no surprise how fast civilization can disappear. Out there, just kill or be killed. Jacob Alordi. There are people out there. They need our help. Josh Brolin. Shoot first and inquire afterwards. Margaret Qualley. Okay, tough guy. And Guy Pearce. Arm up! The Dog Stars. Directed by Ridley Scott. In theaters August 28th. Get tickets now. Rated R. Under 17, not admitted without parents. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message

0:40Tom Pelissero:and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. All I give a damn about. The Rich Eisen Show. With guest host Tom Pelissero. God, I love that guy. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. There's been a lot of talk of Shador saying, I can't wait to see what happens Friday night. Shador, play fake, looking end zone, lofting back corner to the end zone, touchdown!

1:20Shador, gunning, end zone, that's a touchdown! Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider Mike Garofalo, 14-year NFL veteran Chase Daniel. Coming up. Host of NFL Red Zone, Scott Hansen. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's Tom Pelissero.

1:40Tom Pelissero:He is not just coming up. The legend himself, Scott Hansen, host of NFL Red Zone, in studio with the fellas here. How excited are we here? Yes, huh? What's going on, Scott? Tony, she's going to be back with you. Chris, TJ, Scott. What up, man? What up, man? Tufo, back together again. Thanks for having me back. You know, Rich is in Paris right now, Instagramming photos of his meals. As one does. Instead, we're talking to you who wakes up and eats football. I just have to imagine as you're popping up, like on Sunday morning, are you getting the shakes right now? Like, all right, it's four Sundays away.

2:14It's a new year. My year begins in the first Sunday after Labor Day. That's the new year to me much more than even January 1st. I can't wait. In fact, I even brought, I'm such an old school nerd. I'm older than you. I go back. I still read magazines, football magazines. What do you got here? Well, you want me to show them? Oh, yeah. I don't know if they get the brand names and whatnot. That's fine. I want to know what's in Scottie A's briefcase. I literally order these. And I realize that these magazines are dated as soon as they come out. I don't even think Aaron Rodgers is a stealer in these magazines.

2:50Are you at the grocery store just grabbing these? I'm bumping the microphone. There is something about this that brings me back to, okay, so I got Lindy's. Remember Lindy's? And Athlon? Let's go. Where do you go to find those? Just a bookstore online. There is a newsstand near my house. It was actually featured on Curb Your Enthusiasm. I see it every once in a while. Larry David goes to the newsstand for something. That's the one they use. It's by my house. And they'll carry a ton of magazines. It's one of the last ones. I order these online because I'm just a football nerd, and something about being a kid with the magazines, looking through, having some 80s music on in the background.

3:34It's football season, boys and girls.

3:36Tom Pelissero:I was unpacking boxes in my garage recently, and there was stuff that my parents had slowly dropped off over the years in my house. And I found a box that was literally not just the magazines, but do you remember the sticker books? It was literally every team's roster. You had like the 10 empty spaces. because you had to buy the little baseball cards, but they were stickers, and then you'd try to stick on, like, ooh, I got Jim McMahon. I got Richard Dent. And you had to try to fill the whole thing. Del Duvall's nodding, because he definitely did it. 100%. What a great way you could hold your parents hostage forever.

4:07Like, oh, I just need another$0.99. Give me the more stickers. I didn't put them in the book. I put the stickers along the rail of my bed so that I could see them every night when I went to sleep and every morning when I woke up, My brother and I had them decorated right along the side. Oh, I love it. Great time of year. Who was your favorite player growing up? Oh, man. Okay, so I grew up in the Detroit area, suburbs of Detroit. I grew up 15 minutes away from the old Pontiac Silverdome. Not Ford Field, Pontiac Silverdome. Which was not downtown. We had Lions tickets growing up. Yeah, Pontiac's a suburb outside.

4:42And so I'm old enough, I go back to the Billy Sims days. and Billy Sims would have been one of the greats of all time. He wrecked his knees, both of them, and he was very good. He had a couple of years where he was a beast, and of course he wore number 20 for the Detroit Lions. He had an abbreviated career because of the knee injuries and the ACL repair and reconstruction wasn't as sophisticated. Then there was a few-year gap for the Lions, and then they drafted a guy by the name of Barry Sanders. So we went two number 20 Honolulu blue jersey wearing running backs that were all-timers. And of course, Barry Sanders may be the best of all-timers.

5:22Tom Pelissero:And still 68 years or so since the title, but getting closer. You know what? I tell you all the time, and you know this. I, believe it or not, I don't care who wins any NFL game. And I'm not saying that because I'm the host of Red Zone. Even no small part of you, the child inside, is not saying, And boy, it'd be fun to see the Lions win one. I am very glad that the Lions Super Bowl window is open. But I'm very glad for that because all of my high school buddies still live and die with the Lions. Shout out Brian Gagnon and Mike Berry and Joe Mikulak and my crew. So you're seven hours on Sunday and you're juggling all this stuff.

5:59Tom Pelissero:Are your idiot friends texting you like I get texts from my friends being like, hey, this guy hurt. Do you know what it is? I'm like, no, no, no. Turn it on Twitter. My friends are kind enough to do that. But one of my closest buddies, Dave Petrito, will hit me up when there's a big hit in the game. Him and I, the rules were different in football back then. But we used to look for the crackback blocks and stuff. And when there's a big hit, my buddy Dave Petrito will hit me up and is like, just like we used to do, you know, or something. But they all live and die with the Lions. I don't care who wins any game, but I'll tell you what.

6:29If the Super Bowl would somehow come down to the Lions and the Bills, it'd be the biggest Super Bowl in the history of this sport. And they both find a way to lose. In terms of hype, fan base, impossible ticket to get to. Oh, come on. I didn't even hear that. That would be, I root for action, and I can't imagine more action than that. Those fan bases would take over, too. It would be incredible. And you can squint and see that happening. Those two teams are right there.

7:02Tom Pelissero:The Bills are on the precipice. the lions if not for having their entire team injured last season the defense was just decimated there was no one left couldn't yeah and jane daniels was special in the in the playoff game but but yeah that lions defense couldn't couldn't stop the runny nose you know in that in that game so i know i know you're a big you're a big news junkie i've always known that about you since your early days at nfl network yeah um this was a big scott hansen news cycle in this off season because we went from Super Bowl time February, is Scott Hansen out? Is he not going to return to NFL Red Zone?

7:35Tom Pelissero:To now within the past week, is Scott Hansen soon going to be hosting MLB Red Zone and NBA Red Zone and Badminton Red Zone on ESPN? This has been quite the journey. Yeah, it has. So it's in public. So I was in a contract year with the NFL to continue with NFL Red Zone. Proud to say that we were able to come to an agreement, multi-year deal so i'm not going anywhere from nfl red zone then of course when things heated up with the uh disney espn nfl network acquisition merger however you want to refer to it as people were like stephen a smith's going to be hosting red zone now no stephen a i love you but no that's that stephen a wants that uh yeah maybe not other jobs already exactly he's a pretty good one he sits back and he watches red zone just waiting for the cowboys to get down 21 nothing at the half so he can do his selfie video you know uh no no but uh so yeah so yeah i guess i have been i look at i like covering the news making it it's fun i recognize my station in the world or my place in in the american sports fans life and i'm very thankful for that that i i spend seven hours every sunday in people's living rooms across the nation across the world for that matter i take it very very seriously but uh yeah it's been kind of kind of a wild ride and as for college football red zone which is the big one that people are talking about if uh bob eiger jimmy pataro uh burke magnuson want want to want to hit me up i've hey i love college i love college every bit as much as i love pros well there's way more games too there's a lot of different dynamics if you were to do a college football red zone okay first of all espn doesn't have the rights to every conference right And second of all, the kickoffs are not all synchronized.

9:27Yeah, you get a good batch kicking off at noon Eastern, but they're not all synchronized. They come at different times. The games go throughout the day. And then here's the other thing. If your favorite team is the New York Giants, fine. You know the New York Giants. You can probably still name the other 31 starting quarterbacks in the NFL. If your favorite team is the Alabama Crimson Tide, you probably know the Alabama Crimson Tide, but you can't name me 30 other quarterbacks in college football. You might be able to name the rest of the SEC maybe, or maybe some of the big opponents. But so it's not, college is not quite as accessible to the frontal lobe of the American sports fan as it is in the NFL.

10:07Does that make sense? Absolutely. I just had this vision of you.

10:10Tom Pelissero:College games, first ones are at noon Eastern on Saturdays. But then there's always that Oregon, Minnesota, somehow that's a Big Ten game now. that say he plays this in three overtimes, and it's 1.30 a.m. Eastern. And all I'm envisioning is Scott maintaining the energy. He has not used the facilities in 13 and a half hours and just begging, can this thing end? They might need a couple of hosts. When you get into that Hawaii window, I'll be like, ladies and gentlemen, I've got to get up in about three hours to go do NFL Red Zone, so we're going to call it a day here on College Red Zone. No, but look, I think it's great.

10:47Just to be very clear, can I just speak to the fans here? Because there is some confusion, I think. First of all, the Disney ESPN NFL media deal still requires approval. So let me put it very simply. It's not going to be official this football season. Quite possibly not next season either. Possibly. I'm hearing anywhere from a year to maybe even two years from right now is when it'll be official. It's got to go through a different regulatory process. Why not? So nothing's going to change this year. Secondly, technically speaking, ESPN did not buy Red Zone. Right. They have the licensing to Red Zone.

11:28They did buy NFL Network, or they are buying NFL Network and NFL.com and NFL Fantasy. And the right to use the Red Zone name for other things that they can do. Yes. But let me put it simply. if you think that Red Zone's only going to be on ESPN, NFL Red Zone's only going to be on ESPN this year, no, no, no, no. You will be able to watch Red Zone through your television provider the same way you did last year, provided that that television provider, you know, re-licensed. If you have any questions at all of where you're going to find Red Zone, we're still going to be around in all the same usual places, but NFL.com slash Red Zone, and you can find out, okay, wait, how am I watching every touchdown from every game?

12:08And, of course, NFL Plus, NFL Plus Premium, you can just, it's cut and dry. You get Red Zone on any device that way.

12:16Tom Pelissero:Every Sunday I'll have a game or two on the TV, and then I will have you in one of my ears on a headphone streaming NFL Plus on my computer, and it's very good. Yep, yep. So, hey, we're locked and loaded, ready to go for a great season. Now, there were some other changes last year that people noticed in Red Zone. One in particular I'm thinking of, the experimentation with commercials. Oh, boy. Here we go. Do we know what direction that's going? Let me say this. I'm the host of NFL Red Zone. I work my tail off to try and be an excellent host. I endeavor to be excellent when I go on TV. I do not handle the business side of things.

12:56The business folks handle the business side of things. They don't consult with me on the decisions that they make. so um what let me and let me just say when it comes to what will happen in the future when it comes to what's on red zone there is no one on the planet who wants to show you more football than i do i guarantee it and i i hope people can understand that so everyone who dives in my mentions to be like why are you putting commercials on red i i that's not that's not my pay grade You're saying there are commercials. I am. I very tactfully here. I very tactfully. There are people who can answer that question and they're not sitting in this chair right now.

13:43I host. They do the business. But I'll tell you this. No matter what hand I'm dealt or we're dealt, I'm going to give you the best experience that I possibly can. The crew and I are ready to go. But truly, that that comes from above. And I think people everyone watching has a boss, probably has a boss in their life. And I do, too. And we'll see you September 7 to give you the best that we can.

14:09Tom Pelissero:Now, these guys are laughing over here like that was the most evasive answer in the world. It was impressive. Well, thank you. You were a dancer in a past life. That's as far as I can go right now. Oh, boy, is it hot in here? So from year to year, there is an evolution, right, to Red Zone. There's different things that you guys do on a yearly basis. It fundamentally is the same show. But I even think when the NFL makes adjustments, for instance, this year, the first down measurements, the virtual measurements, things like that seem like a red zone capable thing. Other than the timing element is also going to be complicated because it's not instantaneous.

14:48That is amazing perspective out of you. That is the thing I'm most concerned about going into this season, shuffling eight games together. Right. And then having a fourth and inches measured. And the mechanic is different. Maybe there's some people watching that haven't checked out like the first weekend of games to see this, but they're not bringing out the sticks anymore. They have six cameras in every stadium that have been the NFL has put six cameras in every stadium that will triangulate the position of the football on first down and then on third and inches, fourth and inches, whatever it is.

15:25okay so and it's going to look like tennis for the audience that watches tennis inbounds out of bounds you know that that i forget what they call that but it's going to show you and they say it's accurate to i think they told me an eighth of an inch which is actually more accurate than the chains because a link of a chain can one could get crimped or something like that yeah so so it's supposedly of extremely accurate system where they don't have to big out the chain game but here's the problem for red zone if i see oh man dak prescott just dove forward did he get the first down they're gonna have to bring out the sticks no they're not they're gonna have to do a measurement let me show you another game real quick and we'll come back and it's 30 to 40 seconds is what they're saying so there's a lag right with that computer thing theoretically it would take 30 seconds for the chain game to come out for them to put the placard down for them to stretch it out signal first down or whatever they're saying they're going to get this thing to less than 20 seconds The NFL is saying once we know we have a tight measurement, we're going to be able to turn this around and show it in the big screen in the stadium and show it to the television audience within less than 20 seconds.

16:34If that happens, we on Red Zone, we need to be extremely nimble to be able to get back and either double box in the measurement when it pops up. I'm concerned about that. I really am, especially early in the first month of the season to get the feel for it. Because you have no idea. The entire rhythm of it is going to change. And it's a rhythm-based show. Exactly. How about this? I think you and I were on the same Zoom call where I asked. I said, well, okay, the referee who signals first down or signals, you know, inches to go, they would look down at the chin. What are they doing? The referee is going to turn to the big screen in the stadium.

17:12Just like all the fans. Ball strikes. Same challenge system. You look up and it goes, you skirt it up. And it's like, oh, there it is. The referee is going to find out at the same time on the big screen as the entire audience. It's going to be a new experience for us. But look, I am not. I am all for technology when technology can improve the game in whatever way, whether it is speed of play or accuracy. But there's going to be a learning curve. What else are you excited about?

17:37Tom Pelissero:This 2025 NFL season. You're sitting here thinking about what are you going to be talking about in week one? Like, what are the things you're jacked up about? You know, look, it's the low hanging fruit. Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh. Does he still have some throws left in that arm? Pretty good game in your first window of red zone for the season, too. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Revenge game. The second-year quarterbacks. All these second-year quarterbacks, the first-rounders. Who takes the leap? What does Caleb Williams look like this year? What does J.J. McCarthy look like this year? All my Vikings fan friends were watching, as we're talking right now, the Vikings just played their game on Saturday, and every throw was meticulously, there's J.J.

18:21I think he's going to have a big year. I mean, look, he's got a great receiving core. Addison's got to come back from the suspension that he's going to give in the first three weeks of the season or whatever it is. But what do these second-year quarterbacks look like? Do the Eagles still have it? Do they still have that hunger? Because I think they're the best roster in the NFL. and what does the Chiefs Super Bowl window look like? Mahomes is still Mahomes, and I know Lamar and Josh Allen went back and forth for the MVP. Mahomes is maybe still the best player in the NFL. Travis Kelsey's, you know, his production has, we're taking a little look at that, and what does the rest of the pass-catching crew look like for, you know, Rasheed Rice should be, you know, should be back in the mix.

19:13But it's going to be a fun season. The usual suspects are going to be there in the AFC and NFC, I think. The NFC North is going to be a division that is just, you could make a case for every one of those teams winning the division. Even the Bears, if you look at Ben Johnson really has some secret sauce, you could even maybe make a case if everything went right for them. But it's going to be a fun season like it always is. And if people are making predictions at this time of year, nobody knows nothing. Not even Athlons and Lindy's. Not even the magazines. Scott, what do you think could be some sneaky, under-the-radar red zone teams?

19:50You know, you hear that about NBA. Like, oh, this is a great league pass team. Who could be a really fun, exciting red zone team? I don't know if they're going to be sneaky, but I think the Cincinnati Bengals are going to be on red zone left and right. On offense and on defense. And giving up points. I think the Bengals, the way that they've constructed this roster, and of course the Hendrickson thing being what it is, they put all their money on the offense. Burrow is elite. The pass catchers on the outside are fantastic. I think the Bengals are going to be in 35-32 shootouts all season long.

20:25So I think we're going to see them a whole lot on Reds.

20:27Tom Pelissero:The day that I was there in Cincinnati, and it's one practice, right? So that could lie a lot of the time. The defense actually looked good. Did they? Okay. They got so much speed. They got all these young guys on the back end. But you're 100 % right. It's a new scheme with Al Golden there. You got to get Trey back in. But realistically, you're still built based on where all your money's going to outshoot people, which makes them the quintessential. Yeah. Quintessential red zone team. Yeah. One thing I'm always thinking about, you're the rare guest who I don't need to reintroduce mid-segment because anyone who's tuning in hears your voice.

20:57Tom Pelissero:It's Scott Hanson. They're having that response. I don't even remind. No one's like, man, who is that? I don't recognize that very energetic gentleman. I went back through last night your bio. Yes, sir. First job, WPBN-TV in Traverse City, Michigan in 1993. Yes, sir. I am very curious. I want to guess what my salary was that year. I'm going to go with$22 ,000. Anyone else? $18 ,000. This is to the Pandel. I'm saying less than$22 ,000. Give me a number there. $21 ,000. $21 ,000,$22 ,000,$18 ,000. $25 ,000. $25 ,000. Whoa. My annual salary. $14 ,000. $15 ,000 was what I made in my first year of being a professional sportscaster.

21:47But that's how all those jobs were. And I would have done it for$14 ,000.

21:50Tom Pelissero:Somewhere there's still a stack of VHS tapes. You just wanted a job back then, man. Somewhere you probably got to do like VHS tapes. Yes, sir. You send them out. And I remember not just applying for jobs that paid$18 ,000 a year. I remember being rejected from many jobs that paid$18 ,000 a year. One man band in Wyoming. And they're like, you're not really what we're looking for. I'm like, I'm not? I'm never going to get anywhere. Are you kidding me? And you know what? I love that about people. I try and counsel or give some advice to young people as they're coming up. And I don't mean to sound like the old man.

22:23Like, you know, you got to pay your dues. I did this and I did that. But I'll tell you what, my spiritual mentor, shout out Brian McKenzie, he always says, never trust a man who doesn't limp. Never trust a man who doesn't limp. In other words, you have to have some battle scars on you to kind of know what you're doing through life or through a profession, through a trade. And there is nothing like being at a shop that pays$15 ,000 to the talent and trying to work with the equipment that will spontaneously power down and crap out on you this way and that way. And there is nothing that can happen to me on live TV that I haven't already had happen, I don't think, from working in small, tiny places.

23:03So I respect people that have had to come up through the ranks, pay their dues, so to speak, and rough it.

Read the full transcript

23:10Tom Pelissero:So here's my question for you. 1993, Traverse City, Michigan. Personality-wise and presentation-wise, how close are you to Scott Hansen? Like, if we went back, would we recognize that guy, or is it just this? I hated my voice. I probably when you started or when you guys started, like you always think you sound nasally or not quite right. And I would, you know, listen to myself back on a recording and I'm like, oh, man, the enthusiasm was always there. The enthusiasm was always there. But you might be able to go back earlier than my first job in Traverse City, Michigan, because the first episode of Red Zone.

23:49I told my whole family, you guys, this is going to be a galactic success. I am telling if we do this right, this is going to be I knew it was going to be the vehicle for my career that I could do it well and that we could make a show that the audience would love. So I called up my mom after the first episode, my mom. Right. And I said, Mom, what do you think? And she's like, Scott, you act like I haven't seen you do this your whole life. you don't remember that you would put the living room tv on a football game then you would drag your dad's television from the den on a rolling stand back and and pull that out and try and put another game on there then this is pre-internet pre-satellite all this you put it you'd find a game on the radio in the detroit area we could get we can getst louis radio sometimes believe And then I'd have a magazine and a newspaper in front of me.

24:44And that's how I would sit as a boy and watch football. So I always have tried to have my head on a swivel. So, I mean, I guess some of my colleagues, when I was a sportscaster, kind of doing standalone, like, sports center type shows, they used to say, yeah, you would pace in the newsroom on an NFL Sunday when we weren't on the air. but we were going on the air, let's say 6 o 'clock or 10 o 'clock at night. But during the games, I would pace and I would be like, hey, did you guys see what Washington just did over here? Oh, man. You know, whoever the wide receiver was. So your brain was rewired really young here, and it's just been part of the process.

25:24Multitasking is, that's my comfort zone. I love it. I love it. You did it on Gold Zone last year. Oh, I tried.

25:32Tom Pelissero:A couple Emmys to show for. You talk about the challenge of college football and people not knowing the quarterback at New Hampshire. It's a whole other thing when you're trying to describe the break dancer from Australia. Yes, which she wasn't in my window, thankfully. So Ray Gunn, I feel you. The Olympics was incredible. I was very hesitant to take that job. In fact, when I was last with you on this show, I had committed to do it, but we were still a few weeks away, I think, from the beginning of the Paris Games. You had your stack of names. I did. And I'm glad I'm glad Molly Solomon, the president of NBC Olympics, ultimately talked, talked me into it.

26:13She said, we're going to support you. And it was one of the critical hits of the and it wasn't just me. Gold zone, as as it's known, was a huge team effort for which we won two sports Emmy Awards. Well, well deserved by the whole crew. But I'm glad she talked me into it. but it was a whale of an endeavor. When I cut to the Cowboys-Eagles game, I never have to say, so there's 11 men over here, and there's 11 men over here, and they're trying to move the football in this direction. When I cut to fencing, I had to say, okay, Italy has a three-person team. France has a three-person team. They play up to 45, the score.

26:56You score in this way. I would have to describe what the sport was for an audience that, you know, would otherwise never see fencing to try and give them that context to try and make it interesting. But I think it ended up being a really good watch and I'm very proud of what we did. And I've actually signed up for the next two Olympic games. Congratulations. Thank you. International Scott Hanson. Yeah. Yeah.

27:18Tom Pelissero:There you go. So now we'll pile on MLB red zone and WNBA red zone and everything else over I don't come for$15 ,000 anymore. Let me just tell you that. Per episode, right? Do you have any more for a while on Madden to do that? Yes, and Madden, I've been very blessed. Look, Red Zone has given me a platform to branch off and to do other things, passion projects and things. And the folks from EA Sports approached me about being the halftime host. In fact, the name of this show right here is also in Madden this year. Did you know Rich Eisen's in Madden? He's got his. I'm sure he's spoken about it.

27:59But I'm going to be the halftime host, and it's pretty cool. Once they get it up and running, check this out. Let's say you're playing Madden, and you are the Baltimore Ravens, and you're playing franchise mode. So you're going to play a 17-game season with the Baltimore Ravens. Your buddy down the street is the Pittsburgh Steelers, and you guys are in the same Madden league. When you play your Baltimore Ravens game, when it's halftime of your game, A.I. Scott Hansen's going to come on and say, well, the Ravens trying to stay one game ahead of the Steelers in the AFC North. Let's show you what Pittsburgh did, and it's going to be the highlights of what your buddy.

28:35That's incredible. Once they get it up and running fully, that is the implementation. How cool is that? That's unbelievable. You'll see, okay, Joe, the guy down the street that's got the Steelers, okay, he won his game today or he lost his game today. How does that impact me playing franchise mode? So, yeah, it was a whale of a thing to record that, though. Like, I went into a studio here in Los Angeles. Bits and pieces? We had half a day was spent, nothing but me going, okay, this is a quarterback rushing touchdown that was a scramble. So it was a pass play called, and it ended up being a scramble, but it ended up being a touchdown, okay?

29:18And he goes for two yards and he goes for three yards and he goes for four yards to 99 yards. Now do that without without what they call listing or being like sounding like you're just saying over and over and then try and take your enthusiasm level. What does a Lamar Jackson quarterback scramble touchdown run sound like from 32 yards away versus 67 yards away? So it was a whale of a production to do, but it was fun, and I'm so glad to be partnered. EA Madden NFL 26, in stores today. Download it now.

29:56Tom Pelissero:Just to be clear, when you re-signed your new deal to host NFL Red Zone, did you put in there that they can't use AI Scott Hansen at any point? They now have captured your voice, say, in every different scenario. I can imagine them going, we could save a little money with hologram Scott Hansen. I have had discussions. I've had discussions with different people and friends of mine, lawyers, friends of mine are like, Scott, this is a brave new world we're entering into where they will. So there needs to be guardrails. And I'm guessing it's going to come from the legal community, like trademarking, you know, name, image and likeness is where it really falls under.

30:38But, yeah, I don't know what it's going to look like. I will say this, though. My dad, when I told him, Dad, I want to become a sportscaster. I want to go to college to learn this trade, and I want to give everything I've got. He's like, Scott, look it. We love you. We'll support you. You're going into a very, very competitive industry. My dad was in the media. He was behind the camera, but he knew the industry very well. And he said, I'm going to make a prediction. By the time, this is in late 1980s, he said, I'm going to make a prediction. by the time you're done with your career they'll have robots doing your job now he of course have pictured up a metal you know you know lost in space star wars thing but he was onto it he said they they'll technology will figure a way out that they'll be able to replace on-camera talent where i think clearly the technology is getting close to that however i believe especially with sports, I think the human touch is needed.

31:43If you knew that it was AI Scott Hanson, that it wasn't really real, or AI Joe Smith, right? I believe it wouldn't feel the same way. Because when I do a touchdown on Red Zone, I am speaking to the audience, and I'm saying, you guys, we're having this collective experience right now that Saquon Barkley just hit 200 yards rushing and that's his third touchdown of the game and i'm fired up about it i know what that means and i know you know what that means where ai even if you could do voice inflection even if you could do mannerisms and things like that i don't necessarily know if it really will hit that same note at least not in these few first handful of years of ai world taking over i'm sorry to go meta on you like that but what do you think i mean it would seem like the emotional

32:36Tom Pelissero:intelligence is the most complicated part of this. The ability to convey the emotions of a moment is going to be much harder than just simply the formula says we're going to now describe this. That would be the challenging part. All right. Predictions. We did what my salary was before. What year will there be nothing but AI hosts on television? Never. How long do I got left here? 20, 30 years tops. So hopefully some of our up from 2015. I can tell you this. Same brother. This is not AI right here. This is really Scott Hanson. We appreciate you being here, man. You're the best. You guys, great to be with you.

33:12Tom Pelissero:Thank you so much. Have a great football season, everybody. Four weeks away, 27 days, Scott Hanson, seven hours. He gave us 30 great minutes today. Back with more right after this on the Rich Eisen Show.

33:27Need parts fast? O 'Reilly Auto Parts as fast. Need them now? We've got now. No matter what you need, we have thousands of professional parts people doing their part to make sure you have it. We're O 'Reilly Fast. Just one part that makes O 'Reilly stand apart. The professional parts people. Oh, oh, oh, O 'Reilly. Auto Parts.

33:58Rich Eisen here with some advice. If high-interest credit card debt is grinding you down, it might be time to call an audible with a SoFi personal loan. It consolidates your debt into one low monthly payment with no fees required. And with as soon as the same day funding, you can make the right play fast. Call an audible on your debt today at SoFi.com slash debt play. Loans originated by SoFi Bank N.A. Member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891. Fast funds. Terms apply at SoFi.com slash debt play. Rich Eisen here. We talk a lot about battles in sports, teams battling through adversity, athletes fighting for every yard.

34:34The toughest warriors I've ever seen, though, aren't on the field. They're kids fighting cancer, their families standing beside them, doctors, nurses, caregivers. That's why I'm proud to support Hyundai Hope on Wheels. For over 28 years, they've helped fund pediatric cancer research, raising more than$303 million and supporting over 40 ,000 children. Learn more and donate at HyundaiUSA.com backslash Hope on Wheels.

35:01Mike Del Tufo, are you out there, Mike? Yes, I'm here, Rich. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. So what are you revealing? You've got right here. Right up here above me is a brand new Rich Eisen show sign. A new Rich Eisen show sign. Am I going to do it now? You see this. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. This is going to be fun. Just hope it doesn't come down in your head. What are the odds that he messes this up? I can't do it because the way it's set up. Put that on the microphone, dude. I can't. This is the worst reveal ever. Take down both. Keep pulling, Delto. Just put the microphone down.

35:35This is good, Rich. This is good. He's going to break down the whole thing. Yes. Pull both of the cords, you. Hey. No, we cannot have this as the reveal. He does audio. This cannot be the reveal. He does audio. He does not do manual labor. It's the way it's messed up up there. I can't. Look, I can't. We called this. Walk up the stairs. Walk up the stairs, Del Tufo. Yeah, okay. The not reveal. He's going to walk up the stairs. Oh, no, I can't. Because I can't climb to where that is. Yeah, you can. No, you can't. You got to have a cable. You guys don't know OSHA rules. See, they screwed me. They did this on purpose.

36:13I'm convinced. Yeah, it's against you, Mike. I'm telling you. Del Tufo, just tell everyone out there you don't have any change for them. Just pull it. Give them good jersey pull. Put them on. Yeah, there you go. Watch. Put the microphone down and pull it. Pull the other one. You're a big man. Yank it. Yank it. Oh, jeez.

36:38This is so much better. All right, come back in here and screw off the audio now, Mike.

36:53Tom Pelissero:I thought maybe we should just end the show after 30 minutes of Scott Hansen. It is tough to match that energy level. Yeah, the intensity. Once he exits the studio. It'll be a fun year. Tom Pellicero in for Rich. We've talked a lot about the young quarterbacks, the rookie quarterbacks through the course of this show. Chase Daniel joined us earlier. and Mike Garofalo on with his impressions from what he's seen so far. Let's talk about an older quarterback because the Matthew Stafford situation continues to evolve. He was supposed to be back on the field today. Sean McVay had said on Saturday after the preseason game that he had been feeling good.

37:33Tom Pelissero:No restrictions in a throwing session back on Monday. And then today, no Stafford on the sideline in street clothes. Quote from Sean McVay. He said, we're going to be smart, but he didn't feel good enough. And we didn't think it was the right thing to do based on how he woke up feeling. Came in Monday, didn't feel great. So it doesn't feel like it was the right decision to push him. He said he's going to be flexible and fluid, kind of like my voice right there. Asked if surgery had been discussed. McVay said that hasn't been a conversation that we've had. So here's what you have. You see more of those quotes from Sean McVay.

38:10This is not good.

38:12Tom Pelissero:Listen, I am not in any way comparing myself to an NFL quarterback, but I have had an aggravation in my back. They thought it was a herniated disc. I went through multiple rounds of epidurals. I went through extensive treatment. I did everything right up until meeting with a spinal surgeon who ordered a new MRI and told me, you don't have a herniated disc. There is there are millions of Americans with nonspecific lower back pain. like every year there are that many people who have these things and more or less what the doctors say and it's like the most undoctorly thing but it's just like it should go away eventually go away like a year you can do these things like epidurals they're supposed to help it but if the needle's not in exactly the right spot if you twist the wrong way for me it was things like if i turned a doorknob i would feel it in my back just because of way that would torque a little bit.

39:08Tom Pelissero:But then eventually after that re-diagnosis, I started doing Pilates and it went away about a year after at first it happened. So again, I'm not comparing that to Matthew Stafford, but anybody who's dealt with back issues, things like an aggravated disc, as our Ian Rappaport had first reported that it was, you're talking about something that is very, very tricky because there's not like a linear way. It's not as simple as, hey, go and do surgery. You get a spinal fusion, but you're not going to want to do that if you're playing in the NFL. If you're just talking about, you know, irritations and things like that, aggravations, this could be a longer term type of a thing.

39:45Tom Pelissero:That doesn't mean Matthew Stafford can't play. That doesn't mean that this is somehow a signal that this is much worse and he's going to miss half the season, but it is indicative of the nature of what you're dealing with. So when Sean McFay says it's fluid, that may well be the case. Stafford has dealt with, I mean, back injuries, thumb injuries, a shoulder at one point. Every year it seems like there's something, and it's always a little edgy in camp, and then come the start of the season, everything's fine. Remember where the soft season began? It was Matthew Stafford and the Rams going back and forth about a contract, Stafford's agent having permission to go talk to other clubs about a trade, and then it eventually ends up with Stafford going back.

40:24Tom Pelissero:So this was not like this is something everybody knew about. It was covered up or something. I mean, everybody was on the same page that this guy's going to be totally fine. There's enough here that it bears watching because you're talking about three and a half weeks for a close to 40 year old quarterback who's got a lot more gray in that beard than he used to. Back issues are something that can linger. And so even if he's able to push it, how effective can he be? How many reps is he getting? That is definitely all worth discussing. So stay tuned on Matthew Stafford. The backups there, by the way, Jimmy Garoppolo and Stetson Bennett.

41:03Tom Pelissero:Stetson Bennett won a lot of games back at Georgia. Jimmy Garoppolo has won a lot of games in the NFL, has had his share of injuries through the years as well. I would think, Brockman, if you're looking at this just objectively, that even going to a Jimmy Garoppolo is not going to make people feel real comfortable about picking, let's call it that, the Rams to achieve their requisite number of wins. If you understand what I'm saying. I do understand what you're saying. Rams win total right now with Matt Stafford, nine and a half. You're getting minus money on the over nine and a half. So Vegas is expecting a 10, 11, maybe 12 win season.

41:47Tom Pelissero:I think it win 10 games with Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't know that they're going to be a Super Bowl contender. I mean, that's one of the big takeaways going into the offseason was the Rams were that close. They probably gave the Eagles the toughest game that Philly had in the entire playoffs. A couple bad fumbles in the weather, probably weather-related fumbles by Kyron Williams and Matt Stafford. Correct. And so, again, and I am not saying Matthew Stafford's going to miss time. This could be in a week he's out there or whatever. But Sean being asked about surgery and it wasn't like, yeah, right.

42:15It was, nope, we haven't discussed that as of yet.

42:17Tom Pelissero:But again, if it's this type of a back pain, there may not be, you know, an aggravated disc. That's different than a herniated disc where, you know, you can shave it down. If it's just an aggravation, that does sound, again, I'm not comparing myself to Matthew Stafford. I'm just saying that sounds a lot like what I've dealt with. That's pain management. Millions of people deal with. It's not even all pain management. It's also just about, like, functionally. You can take all the muscle relaxers you want, but if your back just keeps locking up on you over and over, it's not great. So, but, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, the issue wouldn't even be, can he go out there and function in the offense?

42:48Tom Pelissero:I'm sure he can. I mean, he went to a Super Bowl with Kyle Shanahan in a pretty similar offense. It's with Jimmy, he's also got a long injury history. Something happens to him, and you don't have Stafford. Now you're to Stetson Bennett, who, again, won a ton of games at Georgia, missed his entire rookie season because of things that were going on in his life away from the field, has come back, he's looked pretty good. But you're down an interesting slope here at a time that, if we rewind a little bit, what were the Rams' plans going to be if they did not get Stafford back and they traded him? It was going to be Aaron Rodgers.

43:21Tom Pelissero:It was quite possibly going to be Aaron Rodgers, who is now taken and is in Pittsburgh. And I wouldn't anticipate that's a situation that's going to change and suddenly he's going to become available via trade. Does Ryan Tannehill still have the same phone number? Ryan Tannehill would be an option. Or there's a guy in Atlanta who's currently due$27.5 million to not play football this season. If something were to happen to Stafford, there is an option out there of somebody who has had a lot of success playing for Kyle Shanahan, being in that offense, wouldn't be much of a learning curve. Again, we are not there.

43:54Tom Pelissero:But those are those types of things you have to start thinking about if you get to a point where Matthew Stafford's availability for the start of the season is truly within doubt. We still have more to come here on the Rich Eisen Show. Tom Pellicero in for Rich. Let's get back to some of those rookie quarterbacks coming up right after this.

44:17Rich Eisen here. Running a small business means every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow. The challenge? Finding that person without sorting through resumes. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent. With Hiring Pro, you can hire with confidence and build the team you need. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eisen. Terms and conditions apply. Rich Eisen here for Gusto. After all these years talking to athletes, coaches, entertainers, and people at the top of what they do, one thing is pretty clear.

44:56Success usually depends on getting the details right. For small business owners, that includes payroll, hiring, onboarding, benefits, You know, the work that keeps everything moving, even if it's not the reason you started the business in the first place. That's why there's Gusto. Gusto is online payroll and benefits software built for small businesses. It's all-in-one, remote-friendly, and incredibly easy to use. So you can pay, hire, onboard, and support your team from anywhere. Automatic payroll tax filing, simple direct deposits, health benefits, commuter benefits, workers' comp, 401k, you name it.

45:29Gusto makes it simple and has options for nearly every budget. and it's all built to save you time with built-in automated tools for offer letters, onboarding docs, direct deposit, and more. Plus, you get unlimited payroll runs for one monthly price. No hidden fees, no surprises. Try Gusto today at gusto.com slash rich and get three months free when you run your first payroll. That's three months of free payroll at gusto.com slash rich. One more time, gusto.com slash rich. I've asked you this before, but I'll ask it again because it's the first time that you're here in studio. When you walk around and people see you, which is the movie or play or anything that you get from like.

46:15Depends on the person. Okay. Certainly, Dumb and Dumber is a big hit. Okay. You know, internationally. And pick an airport. Oh, my God, Dumber Dumber. Oh, my God. Yeah. You know, and there's Newsroom, and there's Gettysburg, and, you know, you get those people, you know, because of Winn-Dixie, which is a little family movie that I, you know, was very happy to get paid for. Sure. Was going, Winn-Dixie was, my God, I grew up on that. I'm going, okay. How about Speed? Speed, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get that a little bit? A little bit. Okay. I mean, I was the guy back in the office, you know, going, speed.

47:00I remember getting the script, and they said, and I died on page 22. I died in the elevator shaft.

47:09Tom Pelissero:Oh. And I said, you know, the career's in trouble, but it's not in that much trouble. I'm going to pass. And the agent said, hang on, there's another draft coming. You die later. I said, okay. And it did. It came in about, you know, page 80. Oh, so you gained 60-something pages. I did. I'm going, well, okay, all right, I'll do it. And Keanu and Sandy Bullock, and, you know, it was like, okay, happy to do it. And I get into that house, and we're in somewhere near here, I think, somewhere south of L.A., and I've got full SWAT gear on. Yeah. You know, it's like 80 pounds of whatever, and I got to crawl in through a little window and look like Harrison Ford doing it, and I'm catching on the window frame and all that.

47:52I finally get in. And the moment in speed is I've got to turn and look at the thermostat and understand that that's not a thermostat. That's a timer for a bomb, and it's 3, 2, 1, and about to blow up. And so I'm going, how am I going to do that? I'm not going to. Do I make faces? Do I cry? What do I do? And I remembered an interview that Roy Scheider did for Jaws. and they asked Roy, that moment, Roy, when you saw the shark, my God, I mean, one of the great acting moments in cinematic history, how did you do that? And Roy said, well, I looked down, and when I looked over at the shark, I made sure my cheek muscles were a little up, and then I just dropped them.

48:43So I said, that's what I'll do. So I looked at the thermostat. Cut. Lunch. Lunch. And I have gotten critics. That moment in speed. Jeff. I mean, I get emotional talking about it.

49:04Yes. Yeah, well, I, Roy Scheider. I love that story. Great story. Oh, my gosh. and it's funny you say that it was right around here because the 105 is right up it was somewhere, some little house that they rented because the 105 freeway was just it wasn't completed yet and that's when right here, there's freeway that's right here that was the one that was used in speed yeah

49:29Tom Pelissero:I watched Speed recently for the first time never seen it so embarrassing, great movie my surface level reaction to it was did a lot more people die because they kept driving the thing There's a lot of crashes. The bus hits a plane at one point. And have you ever met a bunch of people on a bus and said, these are the people I want to save? Tom Pellicero back in for Rich Eisen today. You guys have guilted me into really knocking out a lot of the things on the checklist of 80s and 90s movies I've missed. It's not about guilting you. It's about trying to improve your life, your quality of life. Teltufo in particular is just so horrified when I say certain movies that I haven't seen.

50:10It sickens me.

50:11Tom Pelissero:There was a clip probably two, three years ago, one of the first times I hosted where I ran through my top five. The last one on that list I handled last night, which was Jaws. Oh, Tom. Yeah, but. I watched it on the plane. On like an eight-inch screen, Joe. I'm sending you guys photos of the movie. I do like when you do that, though. He keeps us informed. When Tom is traveling, because he'll send us a picture of the back of the seat screen of the movies watching and it's just like shot vertically to make clear how small the screen is. And my first comment was on the plane? I didn't have headphones on the plane.

50:49Tom Pelissero:I didn't think I had headphones so I asked and then there's some turbulence so I got them late. Jaws is two hours and eight minutes long. I got the headphones with two hours and one minute left on the flight so I'm like this is probably going to get interrupted. So indeed I get there and Dreyfus is going down in the cage And then they're like, all right, we're going to need your seats back up into the upright and locked position. And I'm just like, in my head, I'm like, what are the odds the shark's going to win? I think I got it.

51:22Tom Pelissero:So it was an enjoyable movie. A lot of nudity in the first five minutes for a PG movie on a plane, by the way. The rules have changed. Hey, look at that. And I'd be looking exactly like that. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans.

From the publisher

NFL Network host Scott Hanson and guest host Tom Pelissero discuss the future of ‘NFL RedZone’ heading onto the league’s partnership with ESPN, how the NFL’s new virtual first down measurement system will impact the RZC, the top storylines he’s looking forward to for the new season, and much more.

Tom and Brockman weigh in on the latest in the back injury plaguing Rams QB Matthew Stafford, and Tom reveals that he finally watched ‘Jaws’ for the first time.

Please check out other RES productions:

Overreaction Monday: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://apple.co/overreactionmonday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 

What the Football with Suzy Shuster and Amy Trask: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://apple.co/whatthefootball⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

The Jim Jackson Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jim-jackson-show/id1770609432⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

No-Contest Wrestling with O'Shea Jackson Jr. and TJ Jefferson: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-contest-wrestling/id1771450708⁠⁠⁠⁠
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

More from The Rich Eisen Show

All 1,076 episodes
NFL Network Host Scott HansonThe Rich Eisen Show · 51 min
Listen in VO