NFL Offseason Check-In on the Rams, Lions, Bears & More

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0:29Rich Eisen:well hey everybody welcome to the latest edition of overreaction monday right here a couple weeks into the month of june we've got otas and you know they're they're not mandatory for you here on overreaction monday um so we appreciate you volunteering to take in this program however you do whether it's on the rich eyes to show youtube channel or wherever you get your podcast listening rich eyes along with chris brockman how are you hey rich what's up man first up before we get started yeah big ups on this was sports center oh thanks dan patrick episode phenomenal can't wait to see chris berman today yeah that drops on monday yeah um so episode two is already out and you know it's a labor of love for me to of course you know sit down with the uh the ogs from back in the day man so good and give everyone an idea of what it was like to do it um and what it was like to live it and what it was like to compete with others for sure in the shop there for airtime or seats or and dan patrick really a plus storytelling yeah right you know the chris berman stuff you were there for the live taping at the super bowl last february at the strand theater in san francisco california um and the producer of this show along with the rich eisen show mike hoskins well done he's producing and editing that thumbs up yeah i mean and it's just a lot of eye candy i love it a lot of photos a lot of memory lane stuff so i appreciate you yeah thank you very much uh and that's uh wherever you get your podcasts um again as well as the rich eyes and show youtube channel but that one is also on disney plus and the espn app uh okay so um we figured we'd pop on and do this show overreaction monday because boy did june 1st give us a ton of National Football League news.

2:14Rich Eisen:Miles Garrett, one of the best to ever sack a quarterback or throw out a ceremonial first pitch. I gotta say, that first pitch, pretty impressive. A.J. Brown, and there's so much other news going on in the NFL, so hit it, hit it, hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction. Mondays. Monday. All right, what do you got over there, Chris Brockman? You could use Miles Garrett. The Lakers could probably use Miles Garrett. Okay. But we're all Rams all the time, Rich, and let's get right to it. This season will go down as a complete failure if the Rams don't win the Super Bowl.

2:52Rich Eisen:Don't win the Super Bowl. Hmm. I appreciate you starting with this because everybody thinks the Rams are going to win the Super Bowl. We're talking undefeated last week. Now that Miles Garrett has joined the fray here in LA and that rhymes. And so I'm trying to sound this out. If they don't make the Superbowl, I think it would be a massive disappointment, but that is also still a very tall order, right? I mean, their division alone has the defending Superbowl champs in there. And we're going to get to them. You've got the NFC North, the NFC East, Atlanta potentially being better. It's still the deepest end of the pool, the NFC West and the NFC as a whole, when you throw the AFC in there as well.

3:52Rich Eisen:But they have the best roster, and they have the biggest bandwagon now, I think. Well, the only thing missing is Vince Young coming out and saying Dream Team. Or Aaron Donald coming out and saying, I'll join as well. So if they don't make the Super Bowl, if they don't advance past last year's result, then it would be a big disappointment. Failure is a really tough word. Also, we don't know if injuries would be the one to prevent them from doing it. Right. Like, for instance, Denver's season last year didn't have the expectations going into it. Sure. But going into the playoffs as the top seed, you're sitting here thinking, OK.

4:39Rich Eisen:Yeah, but no one in June was thinking. No, I understand that. But what I'm saying is the fact that Denver didn't make the Super Bowl is based on circumstances they couldn't control. That's disappointing. That's not a failure. I understand that. So what I'm saying is that if the Rams don't make the Super Bowl and there's reasons that we would all look back on and go, now I understand why they didn't make the Super Bowl. Yeah. Clean injuries. I know. I know. You're coming at it from the overreaction Monday point of view, and I'm taking my role here seriously. Yeah. That's why failure, I have a difficult time saying failure.

5:12Rich Eisen:But not making the Super Bowl, I think, would be a massive disappointment bordering on failure, depending on how the circumstances play out. But I do see what you're saying. And you're already seeing, you know, Dan Campbell was asked about. Yeah, just give it to him. Right. You know, he was asked about, what do you think of Miles Garrett going to the Rams? And if you're asking any other teams, coaches, or players, what do you think about this? Right. It's infused with, well, you're not making it now. You know what I mean? Like, that is the subtext. That is the assumption that the question is formed from.

5:52Rich Eisen:Better luck next year. Right? Why else are you asking another team's coach or players about another team's player acquisition? Seismic move. Correct. He's the best player probably ever to get traded. Right. But the subtext, the between the lines foundation of the question is, oh yeah that means you're not going right and so any other team will throw that chip on their shoulder so the rams will have let's get this right here um so three teams are repeated on their schedule they'll have 14 different targets on their backs or you could say 17 because every single time they're taking on seattle or san francisco you know you know or arizona right Or Arizona.

6:44Rich Eisen:Hey, Jacoby Brissett's reporting. He's showing up. That's surprising. Not. So, yeah, I will take a little bit of a hedge here because you used the word failure. But I understand where you're coming from. This is a reaction. I'm not saying it's an overreaction or an underreaction. Teron Armstead was like, I can see them going 17-0. I know. I'm just like, what? So could many. I understand. You know? Okay. But when it came time to it and I asked him to play the win-loss game. Well, he had them punting on a 17. That ain't happening either. I don't agree with that either. What else you got, Chris? Let's stick with it real quick.

7:23Want to talk Myles Garrett? Sure. We've never seen another player like him really since Reggie White. And he has some goals in sight, and I think he's going to get them. Myles Garrett will retire with the most defensive player of the year trophies and the all-time sack record. Where is he on all of these fronts? He has two. The record is three by several players. JJ Watt, LT has three. Aaron Donald has three. All-time sack record is 200. He has 125.

7:52Rich Eisen:Oh, I think he'll have the all-time sack record. It's Bruce Smith's mark. No, I know. And I think he'll wind up with the all-time sacks record. Certainly since the stat that, again, just to invoke Teron Armstead, the 12-year veteran offensive lineman who came in the show in studio last week, fresh from Good Morning Football, fresh from NFL Network, which means he was here fresh with a statistic from NFL Network research, that in Miles Garrett's career, the number of games in which he was on the field rushing the opposing quarterback with a lead of a touchdown or more in his career, I couldn't believe this number.

8:34Rich Eisen:The number was eight. Only eight times did he go out on the field and have a lead to use as leverage to go pin his ears back. He might have that in the first eight games. Correct. Correct. You know, so that will manifest itself. and like i said you know there is a tremendous amount of talent on the defensive line with him that if he's doubled then the other guys are going to get going or the other guys could get off and suddenly garrett sees fewer doubles because of it or just a tight end or a single yeah right so i don't think i think the all-time sack record is within reach he just needs two more defensive the player of the year trophy no i i understand that yeah um so he would need two more dpo wise i'll say this is not an overreaction i think this is okay i think it's reasonable that he's halfway home to the record and depends how many dpo wise and he's more than halfway home to the record for most sacks yeah so yeah i'll go with that for you that's not an overreaction okay here's a topic i He still has miles to go, though.

9:56Rich Eisen:Miles? I'm glad. Jay Felly laughed at that off screen. I appreciate that. Dad jokes. You know what I mean? Dad jokes, nothing but dad jokes. I don't think that's an overreaction. Well done. Thank you for that. He's miles to go. But that's spelled M-I. Okay.

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10:48Rich Eisen:So good, so good, so good. new markdowns up to 70 % off are at Nordstrom Rack stores now stock up and stay big on shoes, tops, dresses, accessories and more must-haves for summer join the Nordic Club to unlock exclusive discounts shop new arrivals first and more plus buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free great brands, great prices that's why you rack I saw new Dolphins head coach Jeff Halfley talking about the tush push and how he thinks his team is going to be good enough to run it this all right malik willis has got the the the bottom half and this hasn't really been a topic in a season or two but yeah i think several teams are going to run the tush push this season not just the eagles and bills which is going to reopen the banning talk because of how ugly this play the only way the banning talk will be reopened again is if somebody does it in the super bowl No, no.

11:48Rich Eisen:Somebody goes to the Super Bowl and wins it. By doing it. By doing it. A lot. A lot. Yeah. Because that's the reason why everybody wanted to ban it is because the Eagles used it and not only used it, what, did they use it fewer times last year? They may have. I don't know. I mean, it felt like it. But they used it to fewer wins. They used it to a lesser effect. They got one and done. but if they keep on using it and they start using it and then they win it all with it, whoever does that, then it will reopen the talk to ban it. But there's a reason why everyone's just like last year. It's because the team that won it all using it to great effect over and over and over again, wasn't as good doing it with it.

12:43so it's i i i can't answer this question until i see who does it and to what effect

12:51Rich Eisen:wins wise okay not touchdowns wise wins wise okay and um certainly if it's the eagles doing it again i'll be like yeah get it out of here certainly if the eagles win it all again it's just curious to me to see a new head coach in a new spot being like oh yeah yeah we're gonna do this right but Well, it's interesting because if I'm not mistaken, the team that put the ban talk on the table and asked for a vote was Green Bay. And Jeff Halfley was the defensive coordinator there at the time. And was the guy in charge of the side of the ball that couldn't stop it. And we were having fun with saying, if you can't stop it, ban it conversation.

13:38Rich Eisen:and this team was the one that led it to the point where we had an Eagles fan call in to play the win-loss game for the Eagles. That's right. And when it came time to the Eagles-Packers game on the win-loss, he said not only will you win it, but we'll win it 22-10, which was the final vote in favor of banning it. And they were two votes shy. 24 is what you need. And it was Green Bay, the one that put it on the table. So I find it interesting that a coach who's saying, I want to use it. Yeah, that got my ears going. Yeah, I think it's all well and good, but the reason why it wasn't even on the table like it was before to ban it is because the team that was using it most famously to win it all got one and done last year and had a lot of questions about their offense and what's going on over there.

14:28Rich Eisen:So whoever uses it to the most successful effect and if they make it to the Super Bowl and win it, oh, you bet at next year's owners meeting we're going to hear like we got to get rid of it so um i i think it will reopen the band talk if one of the as you put on the bottom line there uh at the bottom of the screen the topic bar several t if one of the several teams that will start using it does make it to the super bowl and wins it then that'll happen so for the moment i'll call this an overreaction okay you mentioned dan campbell earlier he had another great quote that caught I probably caught a lot of fantasy owners' ears as well.

15:08Jameer Gibbs is going to be our bell cow. That is a very specific phrase. Yes, sir. Bell cow. Yes, sir. Dave Montgomery gone. Yes. Only Gibbs conceivably in the backfield. Gibbs is going to break Barry Sanders' Lions total yards record and be a finalist for MVP. All right. So what is the total yards record? 2 ,358 of Barry's MVP season back in 97. That is going down.

15:35Rich Eisen:So Gibbs, based on what you're saying, is not coming off the field. Gibbs had about 1 ,800 total yards last year. So it's not too far off. 500 more? Bellcow. That was, whoa, Bellcow. Okay, let's go. That's what caught my ear, and I think that it is in the realm. I mean, he's going to be, if not the first player taken in your fantasy draft, second. And so the opportunity is there for him to really go nuts this year. hmm hmm MVP finalist we've seen running backs MVP finalist in the top five in the last couple of seasons McCaffrey McCaffrey Saquon should have won both those guys should have won MVP right I'll just say this is so tough I'll say I'll say I'll say no I'll say overreaction but I understand what you're saying I understand what you're saying who did they get to back him up it won't be It was Isaiah Pacheco.

16:36Rich Eisen:Right. Okay. Is he going to vulture? Are we bringing him in from the five-yard end? Is Isaiah Pacheco the sneakiest vulture? The under-the-radar vulture? He's the must-handcuffed, speaking in fantasy terms. Is he? Is he? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, are they really going to use him? They got to spell him. I mean, like... I'm saying if Gibbs goes down, we know Pacheco. James is not going to be out there all the time. Why not? Because we don't know how he's going to hold up, do we? McCaffrey is a litany of injury history, yet he's out there every single play. I got it. I got it. I got it. I'll just call this an overreaction.

17:15Rich Eisen:It's too tall an order. But I do think it's an under-the-radar conversation. Because in the same way that the tush-push is not being discussed as much anymore, the Lions aren't either because they were a disappointment. last year and took the proverbial and literal step back last year. So folks are kind of overlooking what this team could do. So, and I can't wait to see what Gibbs is. Do you take, he or Bijan first overall in fantasy? You take Bijan, right? I think I take Bijan just because the. But he's two? He's two, for sure. I mean, he's. If you've got the second overall pick, you've got Jameer Gibbs.

17:57You are so happy because you take whoever falls into your lap.

18:00Rich Eisen:Right. and you feel great about it all season long okay okay what else over there i'm looking at divisions right we know the afc nfc west probably the best division in football right i don't think you could and in years past it's the afc west and in some years it's been the afc north and the nfc north is awesome awesome last year but where are you going with this the last few seasons okay we've had four years in a row a single division has had 40 combined wins okay last year the nfc west had 41. A few years ago, the AFC North had 43. No more of just one. We're going to have two divisions this year, which I said two divisions combined for 40 plus wins this season.

18:42No, no.

18:44Rich Eisen:That's a lot. I mean, that's a lot, dude. Does that mean two divisions have barely a 500? A team barely at 500 winning their division? And you could game that out. It's been the NFC South in recent years. It's both South divisions. The AFC South. It could be the NFC East beat up on each other, and they go. A winner goes 8-9 in that division. No chance there. No chance there. I don't think there's any chance there. Two divisions are just going to kick so much ass, and then we're going to have 40-plus wins, double-dose. So two divisions are going to have people basically missing the – You're going to have both conferences have multiple divisions

19:28Rich Eisen:with a 10-win team missing the playoffs, basically. Or two divisions get three playoff teams. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's still just a tall order. I think there's still just too much parity. I see where you're going with it. I see where you're going with it. Call your two divisions. The West? NFC West? I think both Wests. Yeah. Get 40 wins. If you had to peg that, I would go there. With Arizona and the Raiders. Arizona and the Raiders maybe getting like four or five wins. And then that, you know. Okay. I'll still call that an overreaction. But I see what you're putting down. Okay. Study. And play.

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21:09What else? Some underrated news that we didn't get to hit on last week. Yes, sir. everything else kind of going on is that Micah Parsons isn't going to be back until late October. Yeah. Okay. Had another cleanup and the, you know, they reset the nine month timeline that the Packers have for guys coming back from knee injury. So he's at least at the earliest, a mid season, you know, back on the field for green Bay. Yes. And I think this closes the book. It's officially official. Jerry Jones won the Micah Parsons trade.

21:46Rich Eisen:we can't say that yet it's still too early but i understand where you're going with this one too what the dallas cowboys did last year um by trading micah parsons and turning him into what they've turned him into right in terms of kenny clark and in terms of taking the draft capital and moving it around and adding quinn and williams and then getting Rashawn Gary and then moving things around and in this past year's draft and and getting who they got Caleb down correct um looks great and you got CeeDee Lamb out here saying our defense is a menace to go against in practice I do think so okay and and anybody who pushes back on that would be still locked in on the reasons why parsons got traded right but because it was so bat guano crazy to be born out of a handshake agreement and what a handshake means and then jerry jones throughout the entire summer being like every cowboys fan sleep easy until three weeks later and then parsons is on a training table during a pre-season game just lying there and it was a mockery of a sham of two mockeries of a sham and it looked ridiculous he didn't know his agent's name right all of that stuff um but at the end of the day the cowboys have vastly improved their team and if the behind the scenes stuff between the team and micah parsons is to be believed they removed somebody that either a didn't want to be there or b a lot of people on the other side didn't want to have around anymore grinding gears i get that but parsons still has a huge career ahead of him and if the Packers do have a good first half of a season and if you will stay afloat and if not better I don't know what's going on with Josh Jacobs which is a massive question mark as well then Micah Parsons will be a if he does return healthy a great mid-season pickup to say the least and then let's see what he does I want to see and then let's see what he does the rest of his career okay and let's see how it all plays out but yes a big upside for the cowboys defense and it is born out of the way the cowboys handled the trade and the capital they got from it absolutely more likely to win their division this year packers or cowboys um i would go cowboys you know i put the cowboys in my top five of my way too too early uh i agree with you i agree with you Okay, and so, or did I leave out a two?

24:22Rich Eisen:It might have been a way too, too, too early power rankings. I think it was three twos. I don't remember. Yeah. But it was still way too early. Yeah, I put the Cowboys in my top five. Because their offense returns, and we're assuming it's going to be just as good. And the Cowboys defense, let's check the box, man. Well, assuming that George Pickens is not traded. I don't believe he will be. I don't believe he will be. Never know. What else, Chris? Okay, here's another team that people are high on the way they finish coming in at the end of last year, and expectations are kind of through the roof for 2026.

25:02But something happened last week. Should give everyone pause. Bears fans should be 100 % worried about Caleb Williams on the Madden cover.

25:15Rich Eisen:If you want to worry about the future of the Chicago Bears, and you're a Bears fan, this is absurd. Madden cover. Who cares? I don't care how sick it looks. It is the coldest cover I've ever seen. It's great. But he is on the Madden cover. So what? So what? That, historically, Rich, has not been a good omen about what's coming in the following season. I got it. I got it. If you want to worry about the Bears long term, short term is one thing. I don't have any worries about the Bears short term. I really don't. I mean, that coach is the right amount of crazy. He's pissed in June. I know. Phones on the man.

25:54Rich Eisen:If you're going to have your phone on this man's podium, put a do not disturb on, man. Don't let it ring and have him basically say, here's the phone. I don't want to be interrupted anymore. It's psychotic. Yeah. And so I'm not concerned about the Bears' ability to get better. and you know I think again I am biased Colston Loveland I would get him in your fantasy yeah he's going to go pretty high I mean this guy these two have a connection and if you're wondering well who's going to catch a pass DJ Moore's gone Roma Doonzie's already talking about you know an injury from last year still and he's still dealing with it Loveland is going to Loveland made up for it last year in the playoffs he was already going off he might be their best pass catcher correct So I'm and then the running game.

26:45Rich Eisen:I'm not concerned about it, but there are bigger things in play, rich the universe. You don't want to mess with you. And that's not messing with the universe. How about moving to Indiana? How about having this hanging over? It's not a coincidence that the magic cover comes out and then the Indiana news breaks. Well, I mean, I don't know what the hell's going on there. It's weird. And every Bears fan I speak to is freaking out. And I'm like, why in the world can't they figure out how to stay put where the hell they are? I mean that is truly one of the most remarkable stadiums what is wrong with Soldier Field just upgrade it I don't know I don't obviously there's something going on and you know new stadiums also have developments around them and obviously in where they are in Chicago may not afford the Bears that opportunity like some other large place will be yeah but I honestly I don't know if Hammond Indiana is going to have the same feel for Bears fans to go to a game to then going to the spot where they currently have on the south side of Chicago, that one I just don't get.

27:45Rich Eisen:And I'm not overreacting here. Like, this is real. This is 100 % real. And I don't know what that's going to mean to fans and things like that. And I'm not saying it's going to affect things on the field. I'm just talking about the fandom and what they're thinking about. So I would be more – Both are uncontrollable for the Bears fans. but one causes them to change the way that they go to the game and think about going to the game or wanting to go to the game and the other one doesn't what else it happened this is an overreaction all right all right two more uh landscape of the afc you know we had a lot of usual suspects missed the playoffs last year yeah there's going to be at least four new afc playoff teams in 2026 all right last year there were only two give me the ones give me the ones that aren't making it they're only the ones that aren't making it so you're gonna throw the chargers in there right because i know you like well here's the thing you got to look at who didn't make it right chiefs didn't make it correct uh bangles didn't make it ravens didn't make it right so we think they're all back in yeah um so i mean who do you take out you take out jacksonville you're going to take out the chargers i know i know what you're doing i don't know maybe take out the steelers you swap the steelers out for for one of those you know name me the fourth maybe the Probably the Patriots.

29:03You got to put them out, right? Ah.