NFL Quarterback And Wide Receiver Power Rankings With Seth Rollins

17 Jul 2025 · 53 min · 20 chapters

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In short

Seth Rollins fills in on The Rich Eisen Show, discussing NFL power rankings (top 10 wide receivers and top 10 quarterbacks from anonymous execs/scouts), plus combat sports. Rollins and guests debate receiver rankings (e.g., Jamar Chase #1; Tyreek Hill #3; Puka Nakua omission) and quarterback rankings (Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Daniels, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Baker Mayfield; Hurts controversy). They also cover boxing/UFC and a Chiefs legal update.

Guests/backgrounds

WWE superstar Seth Rollins (host). Boxing: undefeated champion Terrence “Bud” Crawford (born Omaha, Nebraska; trains in Colorado Springs; fights Canelo Alvarez Sept. 13 at Allegiant Stadium on Netflix). UFC broadcaster Daniel Cormier (DC). Boxing/UFC-related mention: undefeated boxing champion Terrence Crawford; UFC broadcaster Daniel Cormier.

Key claims

Crawford says he treats fights as “0-0,” is the underdog mentally, and predicts a win “by any means necessary.” Rollins argues Jalen Hurts should be higher than Joe Burrow. Receiver debate centers on Puka Nakua and DJ Moore being left out.

Notable examples

Crawford’s amateur last loss at 2007 Olympic trials; Crawford training altitude since 2013; odds cited: Canelo -205, Crawford +160. Chiefs WR Rasheed Rice sentenced to 30 days jail (deferable during 5 years probation) and likely suspension after ACL rehab.

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Chapters

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Seth Rollins Takes Over

1:32 to 3:00

Seth Rollins shares his feelings about being guest host and reflects on his role.

“Don't like the guy, never liked the guy, haven't liked the guy, probably never gonna like the guy.”

The Crew and Callers

3:01 to 4:55

Seth Rollins introduces the crew and invites listeners to participate with calls.

“events, whatever we call them these days.”

Discussion on the ESPYs

4:56 to 6:10

The hosts discuss the ESPYs, including Shane Gillis's hosting performance.

“It depends if Shane is your cup of tea or not, right?”

Hair Talk and Personal Stories

6:11 to 8:16

An entertaining exchange about hair, personal grooming, and experiences.

“I think we're just offending everybody again, you know?”

Preview of Upcoming Guests

8:17 to 9:09

Seth Rollins previews the show's upcoming guests Terrence Crawford and Daniel Cormier.

“We got Terrence Crawford, Terrence Bud Crawford.”

NFL Wide Receiver Rankings Discussion

9:10 to 11:04

The hosts analyze NFL's top wide receiver rankings and express their opinions.

“Yeah, because his first walk to the ring in his first ever fight, he played Lil Wayne as his walkout music.”

Debating the Rankings

11:05 to 14:01

A lively debate ensues about specific players' rankings and their merits.

“in there, but you don't got, and I like Brian Thomas Jr.”

Debating Quarterback Rankings

14:01 to 19:00

In-depth discussion on NFL quarterback rankings, including controversial opinions.

“He might break one here and there, but he's not as dynamic as some of these other guys when it comes to getting the ball down the field big time.”

Seth Rollins' Personal Journey

20:16 to 21:48

Seth shares personal insights about fatherhood and life changes.

“Did anybody ever throw you out there on the field as a tight end or something like that?”

Interview with Terrence Crawford

22:15 to 28:00

Seth interviews boxer Terrence Crawford about his upcoming fight and training.

“We are back here on the Seth Rollins show.”
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Mindset of an Underdog

28:00 to 29:19

Exploring the importance of believing in oneself and approaching fights with a chip on one's shoulder.

“So, you know, I'm going in there, you know, as if I'm the underdog to go out there and prove a point.”

The Shift in Weight Classes

29:20 to 31:29

Discussion about the implications of moving up weight classes and how it affects performance.

“I know when I'm a little bit heavier, I move a little bit slower.”

Boxing Career Origins

31:30 to 33:01

Seth Rollins shares his journey into boxing and the influences from his family.

“And, you know, he came to my house and said what's up to my mom.”

Upcoming Fight with Canelo

33:02 to 35:08

Seth discusses his upcoming fight with Canelo Alvarez and the significance of the match.

“You were in Allegiant Stadium earlier this year for WrestleMania here.”

Analyzing the Fight Dynamics

35:09 to 37:25

In-depth conversation about the fight's dynamics, betting odds, and fighter statistics.

“So maybe, maybe we'll have to talk to Nick Khan and, and see if we can work something out.”

Team Dynamics in Tough Times

41:37 to 42:06

Discussion on the importance of teamwork and overcoming challenges in sports.

Building a Championship Team

42:06 to 45:35

Learn about the struggles and triumphs of transforming a losing team into champions.

“that's that's that's the thing that made us as good as we were we all knew what the mission was and we all bought into the game plan of transforming an organization from 1-15 to a championship organization.”

Rasheed Rice's Legal Troubles

45:36 to 48:02

Discussion on Rasheed Rice's sentencing and its implications for his NFL career.

“If you remember on the Dallas Highway, he was going, what, 120, and then left the scene of the crime.”

NFL Suspension Predictions

48:03 to 53:26

Insights on potential NFL suspensions and their impact on teams.

“I mean, he's their, I mean, he's a weapon.”

Caller Insights and Fan Interaction

53:27 to 53:56

Engaging with fans through calls, discussing WWE and NFL topics.

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Transcript

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0:00Rich Eisen:It's Saturday. The tailgate crew is on the way. You've got the cooler iced, comfortable seating, and oof, where's the charcoal for the grill? No worries. That's when Express Delivery from the Home Depot can help. Order in the app or online. Get what you need delivered fast and track it along the way so you can get set up in time for kickoff. Get what you need even faster with Express Delivery from the Home Depot. Subject to availability, restrictions and fees apply. Hey, let's chat about choosing the best tool for the job. When the pressure's on, you find out what's really built for the moment.

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1:13Rich Eisen:All I give a damn about. The Rich Eisen Show. Four-time WNBA All-Star Brittany Hicks is here. Give it up for Brittany, everybody. I'm joking around. That's my friend's wife. if I knew none of you knew WNBA players. This is The Rich Eisen Show. With guest host, WWE superstar Seth Rollins. My feelings on CM Punk are not hard to find. Don't like the guy, never liked the guy, haven't liked the guy, probably never gonna like the guy. Today's guests, undefeated boxing champion Terrence Crawford, UFC broadcaster Daniel Cormier, and now sitting in for a ridge, It's WWE superstar Seth Rollins. We are back for day two on the Seth Rollins show.

2:11Get a load of that. That's right. That's right. I've taken over entirely, completely absolute power. I am your host, fill in for Rich Eisen today. I'm a visionary. I am a revolutionary. Factual. I am the one, the only. Seth freaking Rollins. Yeah.

2:42Oh, and I feel good in this chair today. I feel really good today, man. You look even better than yesterday. I know, right? Look at me. Look at this. Look at this style. What have I done? What have I become? Who am I? Shout out to King Troy for that. Shout out to Troy. That's right. That's right. Look, we had a bunch of looks on deck for all the Raws and pay-per-views and premium live events, whatever we call them these days. We had all these looks on deck. Obviously, we went over the knee injury yesterday. We're not going to get into it today, but we still got the look. So now I'm bringing him to the show.

3:15I'm bringing him to the show. Why not? I am joined here today by the usual crew. Chris Brockman rocking over there. Jason Feller. TJ Jefferson. I think he might be a little closer today, actually. I moved in. Still in the Notre Dame. Also, my manager, Dip, is here. Dip is here. Yeah, Dip. He was here yesterday. We didn't acknowledge him at all, but he is here. Should we throw the one up for Brian? Yeah, throw the one up for Dip.

3:50Dip is here. He's like the mascot, kind of, I suppose. He's over there just sitting on the couch looking cool. We had a lot of callers yesterday. It was awesome. I hope we get some more. If you want to call, talk, you got questions. We had a lot of two-parters yesterday. A lot of two-parters. A lot of two-parters. We'll see if we can get some two-parters today. If you want to call, chat with me. Keep it to one part. Yeah, maybe just consolidate. One question. Can we just get one? Just a simple yes, no, even, if you want to. That way we can move through.

4:26Rich Eisen:They don't know the next time they're going to get to talk to you, so they got to work all that in. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Call us, 844-204-RICH. You are watching us on the Roku Sports Channel. Listen to us, Infinity Sports Network, Sirius XM, Channel 375. You can stream for free on the Odyssey app, odyssey.com. Rich has got his social media, Rich Eisen Show. I've got mine at WWE Rollins. Let's get into it, man. What's going on in the sports world? What are we talking about sports-wise? We watched the ESPYs last night. Did you get on the ESPYs at all? ESPYs last night.

5:00What are we rating Shane Gillis? How was he as a host? What do we think? It depends if Shane is your cup of tea or not, right? And so if you find his humor funny, I imagine that you enjoyed last night's kind of ESPYs roast. Yeah. It seems that's kind of what it was. It's a tough room. I don't know if you've been to the ESPYs or not. I have. So, you know, like, you know, athletes don't have the best sense of humor about themselves. Sure, sure. At times. So, you know, he's picking shots here and there. It's a tough room, but I thought he did great. Sarah wrote on the roast, so. Sarah's his lady.

5:33I support it 100%. I thought it was great. Okay. All right. I'm 50-50 on Shane Gillis. Okay. Yeah. I think sometimes jokes, they hit me real nice. What I do like is he's got this kind of sly little smirk to him when he thinks he's being funny. And I like that. I think that's pretty fun. I dig that. So good. Good, good, good, good. Were there any?

5:57Rich Eisen:Plus, he offended everybody. Yeah. So it was equal opportunity. Yeah, of course. That's what I dig about comedy, man. I like, you know, we went through a stage where it was like real touch and go there for a minute, but I think we're back. I think we're back in comedy. I think we're just offending everybody again, you know? Which is good. Yeah, that's what we need. That's what we need. That's what we need. We just make fun of each other. That's the whole game, right? You're bald, Brockman. Yeah, I love this. I've been bald stuff 24, man. 24? You can't come at me about the bald stuff, man. 20, yeah, you've owned it.

6:29Owned it. When you had hair, was there a crisis moment or did you just go full bye-bye? So it was like, let's see, freshman year, I still had some hair. Sophomore year, basketball, a bunch of us shaved our heads. Just like, oh, we're going to buzz our heads. And then it never really came back. And then senior year, it was like, don't let the bald guy shoot. And then college, I kind of had the comb front over. and after that i remember my last haircut it was just like what am i wasting 20 dollars for like it's over it really suits you it really suits you though i have been wanting to cut my hair for a long time oh yeah yeah i i've we talked about this a little bit off air before the show i've been growing my hair or had long hair since i was a teenager since i was like i don't know 15 and I'm like, I'm sick of it.

7:24I'm over it. I've had enough of it. I love it for wrestling when it's wet and it looks cool and it's great and stuff. But like my hair, it stops looking cool five minutes into the match. It just poofs out. It turns into this, we call it rumble hair when it just turns, it's full chaos jungle man hair. It's nuts. Then you start choking on it. It's a terrible situation. How long have you had yours? My locks.

7:46Rich Eisen:So I locked my hair in June of 1999 is when I first got locked it up. And you never chopped it, just had it? I mean, I would go back in the day, I'd go like half a year when in summertime I'd be bald, and then I'd grow an afro in winter, shave it for summer, afro in winter, and then I'd just let the afro grow until it was time to lock it. You had a full cycle. Yeah. You had a full cycle with his hair. That's fantastic. I was born with an afro, actually. Well, we got a great show today. We got a really cool show. I'm excited. It's a fight. It's like a fight-friendly show today. We got Terrence Crawford, Terrence Bud Crawford.

8:24He is undefeated. Got a big fight with Canelo Alvarez coming up soon, later this year. We're going to talk to him about that. And we got my man, DC Daniel Cormier, two-division champion in the UFC. DC, you know, big Seth Rollins fan. Big Seth Rollins fan. He was actually there present for my very first cash-in, the heist of the century 10 years ago in 2015 in Santa Clara. So we're going to get his takes on the upcoming fight. Dustin Poirier's last fight in the UFC this Saturday. I believe that's this Saturday, right, down in New Orleans? For the BMF title. For the BMF title against Max Holloway.

9:06Sure to be a banger. Can't wait to see that. I think Poirier said he's got Lil Wayne walking him out, too.

9:14Rich Eisen:I think so, yeah. Yeah, because his first walk to the ring in his first ever fight, he played Lil Wayne as his walkout music. That's cool, man. I think on full circle. That's a full circle situation right there. I love that. And, like, DC, he's a Louisiana boy, I think, too. So there's, like, some connection. I know he lives maybe on NorCal now, but I think there's some connection there. So anyway, we got a great show. We got a very fight-friendly show. But we want to kick things off with some football, right? Some football chat. What do we got here? We got some lists. We love lists. We do love lists.

9:45We love when other people help us with content. Shout out Jeremy Fowler, our good buddy. Earlier in the week, you know, he talks to GMs, executives from teams, anonymously, of course, so they can, you know, kind of speak freely, right? And he did his top 10 quarterbacks. Earlier in the week, we hit on that. That was kind of a surprise, right? Jalen Hurts, way too low. Justin Herbert, maybe a little too high. Now he's got top 10 wide receivers. Yeah. The top 10 wide receiver list. Here we go. We got Jamar Chase. Number one has overtaken Justin Jefferson, of course. My cousin. These are anonymous NFL execs, coaches, and scouts.

10:24Justin Jefferson, your cousin, TJ, number two. Tyree Kill, still up there. Cheetah. Wow. Number three. Okay. CeeDee Lamb, A.J. Brown, Amon Ross, St. Brown. Sun God. Malik Neighbors. Wow. joins the list at number seven after his spectacular rookie year with basically us throwing him the ball. Nico Collins was honorable mention last year. He's eight now. Mike Evans, first ballot Hall of Famer. He is nine. Garrett Wilson and his new bag contract. Number 10, honorable mention Terry McLaurin, who wants the bag, Puka, BTJ, DK Metcalf, T. Higgins, and Devontae Adams. Guys, thoughts? Interesting. Wow.

11:08On the list. Well, I am very insulted that DJ Moore. I didn't even make honorable mention. Not even an honorable mention. We knew that one was going to come. I'm insulted on DJ's behalf. Not just a, look, DJ Moore is a stud. He is. He is a stud. Not even an honorable mention. You can't even put him in there. You got Brian Thomas Jr. in there, but you don't got, and I like Brian Thomas Jr. I mean, he was top five at everything. I'm not offended by that, but I'm just saying, You can't even get, you know, I think Garrett Wilson in the top 10 is a bit aggressive, my opinion.

11:43Rich Eisen:I think Puka Nakua not being in the top 10 is absolutely insane. It's absolutely so insulting. But I don't know who you take out. That's the problem. There's a lot of good receivers. But Puka's got to be in the top 10. I think Neighbors at seven. Neighbors at seven is high, yeah. Neighbors could have been honorable mention. You could have had Puka in the top six. Would you rather have Puka or Amon Ra? Ooh, that's a good question. I mean, that's like, that's tough. I know it's choosing between your kids I totally get it but also Amon Ra is top 10 worthy as well so it's not like he's not top 10 but I mean I think I'd have Puka I don't know Sun God is pretty I don't think I would have Tyree kill number three I think that's the one that kind of stands out the most I don't mind Jamar Chase being number one he was unbelievable last year uh he you know he could go for 2000 this season I don't mind him being number one you'd say She is still top 10, though, right?

12:33I would say top 10, yeah, but number three? I mean, dude, he's such a hassle to deal with. I mean, if I'm a coach, I understand that because you have to know where he is on every single play. Yeah, home run every time. And not just like, you know, we got to put our number one on him to guard him. Like, you need two people. You need to, you know, shift a zone in his direction. Like, he is a problem every second, every play. Now, mentally, is he there every play? I don't know. I don't know if he takes them off. I don't know if he takes some games off. I don't know where he's at in his life, to be honest with you.

13:07But from a game planning perspective, if he's on the field, he's a real issue. And I can't say that for a few of the guys on this list, the top two. I get it. I get that one. I understand that one. I like CeeDee Lamb. I like A.J. Brown. I like all those guys in the top ten. I think maybe you move Tyreek down. Nico Collins, man, that dude is a problem. I think that would be the one, though, either him or Garrett Wilson, if I'd had to pick one to swap Puka with, it would probably,

13:34Rich Eisen:and I'd like both of them, but Puka's got to be in. Puka's got to be in. We feel good about Mike Evans? Absolutely. You know, I don't think Puka's got to be in. Really? No, I don't think he's got to be in. I don't think he, he's not a game-changing wide receiver for me. Not yet, not yet. I mean, he's a guy that you get the ball and he's going to get you, I mean, he's a, you know, Cooper Cup. He's not that guy for me. He's a guy that you're going to get the ball. He's going to get a few extra yards. He might break one here and there, but he's not as dynamic as some of these other guys when it comes to getting the ball down the field big time.

14:08That's just how I feel about it. I don't know. It might be a size thing, might just because he doesn't have the size. I mean, he's shifty. Shifty is all get out. I mean, I couldn't tackle him. That's for sure. Not with two good legs, couldn't tackle him. Yeah, I mean, he's legit, but I don't know that he strikes fear into my heart. You like Terry McLaurin? Should he be in the top 10? No. I don't think so. No. No, no, no. Maybe he could slide in at 10. I think Garrett Wilson, I think Garrett's too high. I think he's an honorable mention. I think Malik might be. I get Malik based on potential. And like what you said, I don't even know who threw him the ball last season.

14:46I honestly couldn't. Couldn't name a Giants quarterback. So the fact that he put up numbers that he did last year, especially like he really came on second half of the season. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's a good list at the top. But, yeah, to me, that six through ten and the honorable mentions, you can move that around. And give me some DJ Moore. Come on, man. Come on. DJ's a stud. He had like 100 catches with Justin Fields, I think. You know what I'm saying? That's no joke. Yeah, we talked about it earlier in the week. But, Seth, let's get your take on the quarterbacks, right? Yeah, let me see the quarterbacks.

15:19Jeremy Fowler did the same list, pulled anonymous execs, scouts, coaches, and here's the top ten quarterbacks. quarterbacks. Okay. Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, Jane Daniels, five, Stafford, six, Herbert, seven, Goff, Hertz, Baker round out the top ten with honorable mentions to CJ Stroud and Jordan Love. Okay. I'm not offended by this list. I'm not offended. There was controversy, you said, around Jalen Hurts. Controversy around Hurts? I mean, all of us, me, TJ, and Rich, we all kind of thought Jalen Hurts was too low. What more does the guy have to do? What more does he have to prove? What, more too low?

15:57As in, you thought he should be like 5 '6", we're talking about here?

16:01Rich Eisen:I think he should be above Jaden Daniels. Two Super Bowls. He's outplayed Mahomes in both Super Bowls. I mean, like I said, I'm a Dallas fan, so it pains me. I think he should be 5'. Wow. Maybe, honestly, maybe ahead of Joe Burrow. Whoa, hey now. Come on now. Let's not get crazy here. I mean. Let's not get wild. I need to see Joe Burrow finish a whole season. Are you telling me if you put Joe Burrow on the Philadelphia Eagles, that team going to be worse? No, I'm not saying that. Come on now. I'm not saying that. Let's not. That's bonkers. All right. But the opposite stretch, if you put Jalen Hurts on the Bengals.

16:44I think they're the same team. No. No. They're the same. No. This is aggressive. Absolutely not. Really? The skill set. Look, I like Jalen Hurts, and I think he's a great quarterback. What can Hurts do that Burrow can't? Oh, Joe Burrow. Or the opposite. What can Burrow do that Hurts can't? Joe Burrow. Does not have the running element to his game. Does not have the inside the red zone threat to score with his legs. Overrated. I think their throwing ability is pretty comparable. No, no, no, no. They both have talented wide receivers at their disposal. I think they're pretty equal. The only difference is one guy has won a Super Bowl.

17:23This is a team sport, sir. This is not tennis. This is not golf. He was the MVP of the game. Oh, that's come on now. Let's not get crazy. That could have gone any. That could have gone any. Cooper DeGene should have been MVP of that game. Come on. Cooper DeGene should have been Super Bowl MVP of that game. We know.

17:41Rich Eisen:See, that's Iowa bias right there. That is not Iowa bias. That's all right there, Seth Rollins is Iowa bias. Come on. Iowa bias. Coop de Jeanne, he sealed the deal for that. The defense won that game. Let's be serious here. It was not that the Eagles offense won that game. The defense won that game. They dominated Kansas City from start to finish. The offensive line, I mean, let's... Come on. Jalen Carter didn't throw a 60-yard bomb at the end of the... Oh, it's true. It's true. Look, that was a great throw. I'm not taking anything away from Jalen Hurts here. I'm really not. I don't want it to come off like I'm like, wow, TJ, we were wondering who the Hurts haters are.

18:20We found one. You found one. We literally found one.

18:22Rich Eisen:Didn't think Seth Rollins would be a Hurts hater. Didn't think he was going to be at the desk today. This Eagles team is constructed to win as a team. They are constructed to win. And I'm not saying that he's a bad quarterback. I think he's a hard worker. I love his attitude. I think he's a great quarterback, but I would not put him above Joe Burrell. No chance. Zero chance. Zilch. Nada. None. I just did. I don't think the skill set is the same. I don't think the on-field IQ is the same. That's just how I feel about it. Could be wrong, but that's, that's, that's my opinion.

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20:16Rich Eisen:You're 6 '7", correct? Correct. Okay. And you're from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Born and raised. So did you ever try football? Did anybody ever throw you out there on the field as a tight end or something like that? Oh, yes. Or rush the passer? Yes, being from Tuscaloosa, you know, we've seen football day in and day out. So as a child, you want to do what you see. And that was my goal and plans, you know, until I was in college and I had a daughter that was on the way that was born with spina bifida. So, you know, it's just like to say, like, for me, it's like sometimes when you have plans, but God has other plans for you.

20:53Rich Eisen:And those plans that I had set for myself, he's seen it in another light, a different way. And I found one of my purpose. You know, at that point in time in my life, coming up, having a child that was born with a disorder, you know, it was very tough. It was difficult being that you're young yourself. And then you only pray for a healthy child. and then when you don't get that you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta set responsibilities and do what you gotta do as a as a human being in general and as a father you know and um i love being a father you know if it wasn't for her i wouldn't be in boxing when you know i'll probably be you know in football or basketball or something like that but having her she changed my world completely and uh and i'm forever grateful for her because i wouldn't be in this position I probably wouldn't even be here.

21:41Rich Eisen:Who knows where I'd be without my children. They're blessings. Many people say when you have kids and not playing, that there's a mistake, but no child is a mistake. And I just love it. Being a father is number one for me. Even my two-year-olds understand boxing. All my kids will be at the fight. And my two-year-olds say, I want to go see Daddy Boom Boom.

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22:15We are back here on the Seth Rollins show. Feels good, man. Feels good to say that. Sounds good to say it. Feels good. Here with my boys, Chris, Jason, TJ. Phone lines lighting up over here. We do have some callers waiting. We will get to them. It's going to be awesome. Very excited. Hopefully they've consolidated their questions into single questions today. But before we do that, we have a special guest on the show today. He has a huge fight coming up. I want to get the date right. September 13th of this year against Canelo Alvarez. Huge, huge fight. It is at Allegiant Stadium, the site of WrestleMania, this past year and next year coming up.

23:07it's going to be on Netflix which is very cool we've had a few sporting events streamed on Netflix now they've all seemed to gone very well got the stuff sorted as far as the streaming situation so we don't have any lag or slowdown hopefully he is the one the only Terrence Bud Crawford Terrence what's up man should I call you Terrence or Bud what do you prefer?

23:34Rich Eisen:You're perfect. Whatever you want to call me. I like Bud, man. Bud's cool. I dig Bud. Where did Bud nickname come from? What is that? My mom named me that when I was probably like one years old, you know, so it stuck with me. Just stuck, man. Just stuck. And you grew up in Omaha, is that right? Omaha, Nebraska? Born and raised. Are you still there? You still live there? Still there. Dude, my man. Midwestern boy. I love that. I'm from Iowa, Davenport, Iowa, right down I-80. Oh, yeah. So you're about two hours away? Oh, no. Des Moines, two hours. I'm on the other side of this day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:10Rich Eisen:Probably like four. That's right. That's right. If we're going a little over the speed limit, we can get there for it. So, big fight coming up September 13th. Where are you at as far as your training is concerned and your preparation for this fight coming up? What's your day-to-day look like? How are you feeling? What are you doing to get ready? Like, where are you at in your stages of preparation? I'm good. You know, we in Colorado Springs right now. We already had our first workout of the day. You know, we got another one here this afternoon. And, you know, it's all about working and recovering and eating.

24:49Rich Eisen:That's pretty much it. And resting. How long are your fight camps? How long do they usually last for? Some of them different, you know, mainly about eight weeks. Okay. All right. That's it. And you guys are in Colorado. So I assume the elevation, that's the thing, the altitude. You want to get that blood oxygenated for that cardio, right? Yeah, for sure. And is that something that you've done? Is that a new thing or is that something that you've done for a lot of your fights? I've been doing this since 2013 before I was even, you know, world champion. So we're used to it by now. So 2013. So did you notice a specific difference, a very big difference when you train at altitude versus when you don't?

25:36Rich Eisen:A little bit, but my main reason coming out here was to get away. Okay. And, you know, be away from everybody and everything back at home and just focus on boxing. so for you how how much is the mental part of what you do and your mental preparation as important as your physical preparation if it's a big mental switch for you to get out there and be on your own oh it's definitely you know um something that that goes hand in hand with being away from your family and your friends and uh being um not not being able to be comfortable and, you know, your natural habitat. You know, of course, we're comfortable now because we've been coming here for years.

26:26Rich Eisen:But at the same time, we know once we get to Colorado, it's all business. So I got some questions for you. All right, I'm looking at this record you got here. You are undefeated. You are undefeated in a professional boxing ring. You have never lost. I got to know, first of all, as an amateur, were you undefeated as well? Have you ever lost a fight? When was the last time you lost a fight? No, I lost as an amateur a few times. You know, I lost that. My last loss was at the Olympic trials in 2007. So you haven't lost a fight in nearly 20 years. That is unbelievable. I got to know what's that? What does that feel like?

27:13What does it feel like to be undefeated? Is it something you put thought into? Is it something that even crosses your mind when you're signing up for another fight? Like when this fight was brokered, booked, you and Canelo, does it cross your mind? Oh, my undefeated streak is on the line. Is it anything to you or is it just a fight?

27:38Rich Eisen:No, actually, you know, I never think about, you know, myself just being undefeated. I always, you know, look at it like it's 0-0, you know, going first round, you know, because, you know, I could be the favorite, but in my mind, I'm the underdog. So just like this fight, you know, I'm the underdog. So, you know, I'm going in there, you know, as if I'm the underdog to go out there and prove a point. No, he is not the underdog. You are not the underdog in this fight. There is no way. Do we have a betting line on this? Is there a standby? Yeah, let's get a betting line on this because I can't believe but your mindset.

28:19That's how you approach it. You just go in every time like you are the underdog. And that chip does that chip on your shoulder kind of help you prepare? Does it does it give you a different type of focus when you get in the ring? For sure.

28:31Rich Eisen:You know, it gave me that mental edge to keep pushing a little bit harder because, you know, I'm already, you know, down two rounds, you know, being that the popularity and, you know, the person that I'm going up against is in a higher weight class than me. so you know in my mind i'm already down two rounds i gotta i gotta make up for you know those two rounds with with the work that i put in uh going going into this fight that mindset is uh i dig that i like that another thing that's a little bit different about this fight for you you are moving up weight classes for this so you're gonna be a little bit heavier for this is that do you find is that is that good for you do you like that do you like being able to move up are you more comfortable at this weight as opposed to what you normally fight at well i haven't been at this weight in a in an actual fight before yeah you know training i'm gonna be just fine did you like it you get to eat a little bit more i don't gotta you know start myself and cut muscle and you know the thing or worry about weight that's the that's the bonus of Do you think it'll have an impact on your cardiovascular performance at all?

29:48I know when I'm a little bit heavier, I move a little bit slower. You're a proper supreme athlete, so you might not have that issue. But for me, I move a little slower and I'm a little heavier.

30:00Rich Eisen:I think it'd benefit me come fight night. I'm excited for this, man. I'm hyped about this. Another question, and this is just me. Like, you know, all athletes, you seem like an extremely humble person for a dude who hasn't been beaten in a fight in 20 years. Maybe that comes with the territory because you're going to worry about nothing. Yeah, right. But are you the greatest fighter of all time in your eyes? No. No. No. You don't think I'm the best? Do you think you're the best right now? I do think I'm the best right now, but the greatest of all time, That's Muhammad Ali's spot. Did you have a list of guys who were like, these are the greatest fighters that have ever lived?

30:46Do you have people that you look to and think that about?

30:51Rich Eisen:As fans, yeah. You got Ali. You got Floyd Mayweather. You got Roy Jones Jr. You got Sugar Ray Robinson. You got Sugar Ray Leonard. You got Roberto Duran. Marvin Hagler. There's so many fighters that you can put up there. You just can't name one. That's fair. How long have you been, when did you get into boxing? How old were you? What sucked you in? What was your thing? Why did you want to do this? I started boxing at seven years old not knowing that my dad and my uncles and my grandpa used to box So, you know, the owner of the gym actually lived behind my grandma and stopped me one day and asked me, was I interested in boxing?

31:49Rich Eisen:And, you know, he came to my house and said what's up to my mom. Then while I'm in the middle of telling her that some guy in the van was trying to talk to me, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, your dad didn't box for him. I mean, the rest is history. The rest is history. Did you take to it, like, just right away? Was it something you got in the gym and you're like, oh, man, I'm good at this? I love this? Or was it like – It was just fun. It was just fun. So when I first went in there, you know, it was just something to do, you know, because that was the first sport that I ever tried. So going in there, you know, I liked it to fight.

32:32Rich Eisen:So I always wanted to spar. Let's go. Let's get in the ring and spar. Let's spar. Let's spar. Let me hit the speed bag. Let me punch the bag. You know, I used to get in trouble because I used to didn't follow the rules. I dig that. The fighting aspect about it, you know, it was all just fun to me. Okay. All right. So, big fight. Is this fight with Canelo, would you consider this the biggest fight of your career coming up? Yeah, by far. By far. By far, you'd say. Yes. All right. So, we're in a stadium here, Allegiant Stadium. Again, September 13th, live on Netflix. The world will be watching. You were in Allegiant Stadium earlier this year for WrestleMania here.

33:15Yeah. Did you enjoy it? Did you have a good time? Which night did you go to? Night one, night two, both nights? What would you do?

33:23Rich Eisen:I went for both nights. It was great to actually be in the arena and actually get to see everything and just visualize myself fighting in that arena. it was, it was a good experience. Are you, uh, are you a professional wrestling fan or did you just go, you know, you are? Yeah. Oh, for sure. You know, I've been watching WWF when I was, Oh, all right. Did you have any childhood favorites? Undertaker. Nice, nice, nice. We should get dead man to walk you out. You know what I mean? We should get dead man on September, in September to get, walk you out. That'd be great, man. Uh, all right. last question for you last question for you any predictions i know sometimes boxers are famous for these any predictions for this fight what are you feeling a victory a victory doesn't matter how you get it you're just gonna win by any means necessary that's a fact ah i love it man i'm excited i'm looking forward to it i again i'm envious i've been defeated many many times in my life, in my career.

34:37Matter of fact, I think I've lost more than I've won, possibly. Your undefeated streak, you don't even have one. I do not have an undefeated streak. Your last match, you lost. I lost. Yeah, I lost the last match to LA Knight. Wow, wow. But Terrence Crawford undefeated September 13th, Allegiant Stadium live on Netflix for the world to watch against Canelo Alvarez. Biggest fight of your career. We wish you the best of luck. Thank you so much for joining us. Um, hopefully, hopefully, I mean, I'd love to be there, man. I'd love to come see it. I've never been to a big time boxing fight. It's right down the road in Vegas, man.

35:12So maybe, maybe we'll have to talk to Nick Khan and, and see if we can work something out.

35:17Rich Eisen:For sure. Pull up. Thank you. Oh, I believe it, baby. I believe it. Thank you very much for joining us, man. Enjoy the rest of your J. Enjoy the, uh, second, second or third training session and enjoy all the extra food you get to eat. My friend, thank you. And, uh, good luck in September. Wow, undefeated. I know. I know. You see that number, 41-0. You see the O, and you're like, oh, dude. You want to put it on the line, a big fight like this? I love it. Canelo going up in weight. You asked what the odds are. Yeah, what are we at? He is an underdog. Canelo's minus 205. Wow. Bud is plus 160. Canelo is the favorite in this fight.

35:542-1. Is that shocking? I'm sort of shocked by that. I thought it would be a little closer. I don't know. Is it the weight class situation? I think it's Bud going up in weight. Yeah, is this Canelo? So it's Canelo's normal weight class that he's fighting.

36:06Rich Eisen:Plus Canelo's gone up to heavyweight at a certain point. So he's used to being fighting at a little heavier weight. You're telling me Canelo has fought at heavyweight? Yeah. That's bonkers. Or at least light heavyweight. Light heavyweight? Oh, man. So there might be like a power advantage there. Right. And TJ and I were talking too. You know, Canelo's got a chin, man. He doesn't get put down. This sounds like it's going to be a good fight. I think it's going to be one of the best fights we've seen in years. I'm, whoa, okay. Without question, you're talking like this is marquee, right? This is the one.

36:39Rich Eisen:This should be our generation's like Hagler Hearns or Hagler Leonard. You're talking about two of the very best, if not the best fighters in the world right now going at it. Crawford's 37, so he's got an age disadvantage, I guess. Canelo's younger. Is Canelo a little bit younger? A little bit younger, 34 for Canelo. Wow, Canelo's got like a million fights. Yeah, he has so many fights. He's fought a lot. Kanoa, actually, his birthday's tomorrow. He'll be 35 tomorrow. Oh, happy birthday. And he did light heavyweight. I said heavyweight. I'm sorry. Light heavyweight. He fought Sergey Kovalev, and he beat him at light heavyweight.

37:17This is a big fight. Kudos to, I think, my boy Nick Khan, WWCO, actually helped get this fight off the ground. It's great because you don't see these types of super fights come together. Usually there's a lot of issues, mostly financial, obviously. but these things don't really happen. Not anymore. The fact that these two guys and Bud willing to put that undefeated mark on the line, that's credit to him, credit to these guys. I love that mindset, though. Like, I'm scared for him. Yeah. You know? Like, I see the O, and I'm like, I'm scared for you, sir. Don't do it. Just stay retired. Just stay awesome and undefeated.

37:54You know, don't do it. Don't take the chance. But I love that. I love the fact that he's just like, nah, man, I'm O and O. Like, I'm behind. I'm an underdog. Dude, what are you talking about? Like, I'm reading this sheet. I'm looking at these stats. Like, I'm not the biggest boxing guy in the world. I'll put that out there right now. But I'm so impressed. This laundry list of how incredible this dude is. Like, first male boxer in history to become undisputed champion in two-weight classes during this four-belt era. I don't know what the four-belt era is. Well, WBA. To be fair. And moving up, like, putting your undefeated streak on the line, moving up two-weight classes, fighting in a stadium, on Netflix, like the pressure is on and he he's like cool as a cucumber he's just like yeah yeah he's cool as a cucumber i get to eat whatever i want yeah i guess you know it's good for me i mean canelo's got 67 official fights he's 63 two and two yeah but his amateur career he had i think 100 or so

38:49Rich Eisen:so yeah but i haven't looked forward to a boxing match this much since canelo and triple g the first time around like wow i feel like i feel like i could sit down with that dude and just talk shop because I'm so curious about the mindset. Look here, you know what? We did breaking news yesterday. I'll give you a little, this is not terribly breaking news. Do we want the drop? Do you want to wait for the drop? This isn't as cool. This isn't too late. Breaking news. I had to make up for being late on it yesterday. Breaking news. Alright, breaking news. I've never actually been in like a real fight.

39:25I've never been in like a fist fight. Yeah, I've never done it in my life. Never, ever ever. Not once.

39:31Rich Eisen:You say that, but you've also been in the ring with Brock Lesnar and that seems like that would be a real fight. I know, you know. Our thing's a little bit different than that thing. But I've never just like gotten to a scuffle in a bar. I've never, none of that. Because no one's stupid enough to pick a fight with you. I've never thrown, well now they will be because they know that I got nothing. That bar fight thing, we have a good question on our pod about that. Before the show's over, I got a question for you.

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41:47Rich Eisen:It was a journey. All the time we got our butts kicked and we're going to do a players only meeting and then just go get our butts kicked some more you know going through all of that i'll tell people this troy emmett me we never never had a falling out never had an argument never had a fight because we knew what it was like building it from from the bottom and that's that's that's the thing that made us as good as we were we all knew what the mission was and we all bought into the game plan of transforming an organization from 1-15 to a championship organization. And Jimmy was at the helm of it.

42:30Rich Eisen:I knew once I got there what the expectations were going to be. I just did not know how difficult it was going to be to get all that together. But through that whole entire process, We grew together. We matured together. We played at a high level together and we lost together. We went through a lot together. And so that team itself was built inside out and it was built to go out and destroy whatever it was in front of. Now we competed at the highest level amongst ourselves. It was made us ready for anybody and anything that was out there. That's why we were different. So people look at us and they ask us, how about the Karen Cowboys?

43:14Rich Eisen:They ain't going through this. They haven't had to deal with the 115. They don't even know what it's like. And even if you go through the 115, I don't mind some of Jimmy's old tricks. You know, when we lost in Washington, we should have won the game. We lost in Washington. That poor lady was trying to feed us on the airplane. Jimmy said, you take that damn fool and put it away. If they were hungry, they should have ate on the football field. In every away game, every away game, we get late in the game. I used to come to the line and say, we're going to eat a night. We're going to eat a night. Because y 'all know y 'all lose this game.

43:52Rich Eisen:Ain't no food gets served on that thing. You know. So, for your supper? You eat five hours before the game. You eat five hours before the game. Everything. So, now you play the game. You exhaust. Everything's gone. You want some food. You want some food. And if you didn't win that game, ain't no fool. Won no party. Nothing. You got to ride the plane like this. The plane was quiet. Nobody said a word. I'll never forget the one time. We did lose to Washington. But we was coming back. We may have been coming back from D.C. And there was a little noise on the plane. Poor Jimmy went off. He came back there.

44:31Rich Eisen:Went off. I feel bad. He had just got done watching the live feed. He came back there, man. and Rob. I mean, everybody. Everybody heads on the block. I'm not going to call out no names. But it was everybody. Everybody heads on the block. Shut up and shut up. You say another word, I'm going to cut you before the plane lands. He said that? We said that. We said that like this. Damn.

45:01Rich Eisen:So you get to 4.4, you're like, Joker, what y 'all going to do now? We talking like this. You can either whoop these jokers or we're going to deal with that joker. Let's go. And it was always easy because what they asked. Get on that plane to get us some heat. It's one of those things where you better go outside and whip somebody behind and then come back to the house and say, Mama, we did what we needed to do. Can we get something to eat now?

45:36yeah what's up guys back here on the seth rollins show what's going on with rasheed rice yeah breaking news it's kind of just coming over uh adam schefter reporting that the chiefs wide receiver Rasheed Rice, sentenced to 30 days of jail time and five years probation for his role in the multi-car crash last year. If you remember on the Dallas Highway, he was going, what, 120, and then left the scene of the crime. The jealous judge told Rice that he can serve the jail time at any point during the five-year probationary period. So it remains to be seen when he will serve that 30 days of jail time.

46:16But now that this is concluded, legally. Got to wait for the NFL to come down. Got to expect he's going to get a multi-game suspension. Of course, he's recovering from a torn ACL suffered early last year. Wow. 30 days at any point during the five-year probationary period. Can he just do a day here and a day there? Can I break this up, Judge? Yeah, yeah. How does this work?

46:40Rich Eisen:I ain't trying to spend 30 seconds in jail, let alone 30 days, man. Love that thought. Got to assume it's 30 consecutive days. Consecutive, Right? Yeah. Okay. I admire you got to ask, though, right? I mean, it certainly crossed my mind. Treat it like the Army Reserves. Maybe you get to just do like two weekends a month and then, you know, work the time. Like the National Guard? Yeah. Yeah, well, that's what I didn't know. I had no idea. I've never heard a sentence, like, come down that way. No, me neither. So that was my first question is how do we break this down? But I don't know. Yeah, so it was unclear when he was going to come back if he'd be ready for week one.

47:14But now you got to expect when he is back, suspension. There's got to be a suspension, right? Yeah, for sure. It seems like he's going to be out half the year, maybe. So, big blow to that Chiefs offense. Yeah, yeah. You think half the year, you say? Well, I'm thinking maybe he wasn't going to be ready for week one anyway, coming back. When did he tear the ACL? Week four. Okay. So, that would have been October, roughly? Yeah. Roughly October? Nah, he could. I mean, he might have been ready by week one, I would say. Depending on how bad the rest of the knee looked. But. And the rehab went. He's going to be out a good amount of time.

47:48I got four games minimum, right? Suspension, something like that? You would assume. I would, yeah. Maybe, probably four. I don't know. Two to four, right? Two to four, maybe. We'll see. We'll see. But either way, it is a big blow to the Chiefs offense. Big blow. So we'll see how that goes. I mean, he's their, I mean, he's a weapon. I mean. He's a huge weapon.

48:07Rich Eisen:Beast. Also depends on what kind of prison they're going to send him to. Like, does he go in the country club? Does he go in the jail? Does he go in the prison? and there are a lot of – now I'm wondering, like, how's he got to serve this time? Like, you know, I'm sure he's not going to be in a maximum security. No, he's not in a super max. No, no, no. Are they giving them the country club? He's going to do it probably after the season ends. Yeah. Just get it over with and be done. Yeah, I imagine it'll be sometime this summer or whatever. Or do you wait and wait and wait and hope it gets – Put it off.

48:32Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, defer. I don't know. I don't know. Hope that there's a clear or error and they forget. I don't know. That's tricky. Can we squeeze a collar in before we – Yeah, let's squeeze. Let's squeeze a caller. Pick a caller. Let's go to Terzo. Line 2. What's up, buddy? Terzo.

48:49Rich Eisen:What's up, guys? Hey, Seth, man. It is a pleasure to be able to talk to you, my man. I'm a big fan. Love what you do with the WWE, man. You just crush it and you rock it, my man. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Terzo, how are you leading? Not telling Seth where you're from right off the bat. Well, I'm from Colorado, TJ, but I do live in Des Moines. Yeah. I've made my life here in Iowa. Good man. Good man. Terzo, we got a minute. So, okay, so real quick, with Rasheed Rice, he's going to be doing that in county jail. It's not going to be any fancy jail or anything like that. Terzo's a lawyer, Seth.

49:29Rich Eisen:And they're more likely not going to break it up. Got it. But, Seth, real quick question for you, and then I got one thing about week 16. The first question for you is when did you actually think that you made it when you got to the WWE? I don't know that I've made it yet. You know, the big one probably WrestleMania, first WrestleMania. First time you step out in front of all those people. We were in MetLife Stadium, you know, 2013, January or March. It was incredible. Incredible staring across the ring from Randy Orton and Sheamus and Big Show. So, I mean, you just, it doesn't, you know, you're there.

50:08You're in WrestleMania. You're on the marquee. We opened the show that year, too. So, that was the one for me. I think I was like, oh, I'm a WWE wrestler now.

50:16Rich Eisen:Wow. That's freaking awesome. So, week 16, your Bears come to play my Niners. And I'm going to have to tell you, you're going to be looking at the end there at the fourth quarter. And you're going to be smelling. Terzo, don't even start with me. Bear up, bear down. You don't stand a chance. we're coming for you hey if you're ever in Des Moines look for a bar called Carl's we'd love to have you down there thanks Terzo apparently we're big in Carl's we're always on at the bar so they know what's down there I like that I've never been to Carl's I hope that's in a good part of town I think it probably is Des Moines got like it's tricky Des Moines well you know some parts Real nice, real nice.

51:06Some of those Midwestern cities like Des Moines and Omaha, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, really on the come up. Still some parts of it not so great. Gotta avoid those bar fights. Yeah. No bar fights. Let's go line four, Jay Felly. Ross in New Jersey. What's up, Ross?

51:23Rich Eisen:Ross. Hey, what's up, man? Good talking to you. Big fan of yours. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. What you got? So, real quick question. I know you got other callers. you know 2014 when you came up with the shield and all that right that was kind of like the hey day when I became a fan of it too and if I had to point to like one pay-per-view I don't know if you remember it as much as I do 2014 extreme rules you had the match with evolution and that was like that Daniel Bryan came later that night was like the whoa this bleep is awesome to me I was like 8-9 years old at the time and now looking back 10 years later all you've accomplished you brought up the money in the bank cash in 2015 I remember that like it was yesterday you know you look now at the faction you got with Braun and Bronson Reed how would you kind of compare it to the Shield when you first came up with Roman and Dean and it was like when you built up this faction now that you got with those two Paul Heyman and them was there like any kind of resemblance of the Shield in mind like all these years later and I know you kind of have the callbacks like at the last two main years which by the way I know Cena and Rock came out and Undertaker as well but your kind of your callback to the betrayal which like on a random 2014 Raw after Payback I think it was, which is crazy that it kind of landscaped the modern day company.

52:34Rich Eisen:Like, how do you kind of compare your faction now with Bronson and Breaker to the shield that you came up with all those years ago? Appreciate the time, man. Yeah, brother. Thanks, Ross. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a historian there. He's got it all. Love it. You know, look, the shield was special. It was a very unique thing, but the one thing, the common thing that sort of brought us all together was the work ethic. You know, we all had the same goal in mind. We all wanted to put in the same amount of effort to get to that goal, which was to change the face of the industry. We wanted to kind of rewrite the whole thing, make the generation ours.

53:12And the thing that I see in Braun and Bronson is that they feel the same way. They want to be the next big thing, and I want that for them. And so here we are. Round two, baby. Let's go. So we're coming back with more from the Seth Rollins Show.

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WWE Superstar Seth Rollins fills in for Rich as guest host where he and the guys weigh in the ESPN Jeremy Fowler’s top 10 list of WRs and QBs as provided by anonymous NFL executives, coaches and scouts. 

Undefeated (41-0) WBA Junior Middleweight Champion Terence “Bud” Crawford and Seth discuss his upcoming fight against Canelo Alvarez, reveals why he always thinks of himself as the underdog even though he hasn’t lost a fight since 2007, and more.

The guys react to the sentencing of Chiefs WR Rashee Rice for his role in a multi-car crash in Dallas last year. 

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