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8:45Rich Eisen:The whole thing is, like, if you're questioning anything about Aaron Donald, you're going to question the following. If you're going to question anybody coming back from this long of a break, You're questioning their stamina. You're questioning their conditioning. You're questioning their mental readiness and their desire. How do you question any of those four things about Aaron Donald? You simply can't. So it's really, it's just really, does he want to do it? Which is in the desire bucket.

9:14Chris Brockman:Yeah, so someone point out there's only a handful of guys left on the Rams when he last played. So it's not like he's super familiar with a lot of the guys in the locker room. So maybe that would be a factor into not coming back.

9:26Rich Eisen:Did you see Miles Garrett on Micah Parsons' podcast at Fanatics Fest over this past week?

9:33Chris Brockman:A lot of buzzwords in that sentence.

9:34Rich Eisen:Yeah, I mean, Micah Parsons was doing his usual Micah thing of talking with his chest and being filled with bravado and reminding Miles of just what Micah's accomplished in his first few seasons, which is, you know, a Hall of Fame start, right? Without his unavailability due to his knee injury, right? or his back being balky at the beginning of last season, if you recall, through all of that craziness between Dallas and Green Bay. And him basically saying that he's coming for Miles' record. And Miles basically told him, it's still my time. That's what he told him.

10:12Chris Brockman:I'm not gone yet.

10:13Rich Eisen:And he basically said that he could break it again this year.

10:16Chris Brockman:Yeah, buddy.

10:17Rich Eisen:And I just kept sitting there thinking, that's right. He's on the Rams. that guy that we saw at the Super Bowl in New Orleans a couple of Super Bowls ago where he was like, I don't want to play for the Browns anymore, and I am done, and he looked flat out miserable. He is just like everything's coming up roses. The sky is blue. The wine tastes better. The food tastes better. I can't imagine what he's going to be like playing with a lead and playing under these circumstances after his entire first part of his career. And why wouldn't Aaron Donald want to do that if he still has desires to play?

10:59Rich Eisen:Right. So I'm with you here. I don't think this is an overreaction at all. What else you got? Okay, Rich.

11:06Chris Brockman:We're going to talk a bunch about quarterbacks coming up. A lot of talks about quarterbacks. I want to talk about one guy in particular about how he needs to prove it and should the team give him an extension. and it's like okay i get it with cj stroud but we're not talking about this other guy jayden daniels is facing a bigger make or break season this year than cj stroud i don't think

11:26Rich Eisen:it's make or break um well stroud's up for a contract earlier than that we'll see if um between this very moment where we're talking into this microphone or the the first week of the season if Stroud gets his contract. Right. The question for Jaden Daniels this season is week one of last year, week two of last year, was he beginning to already start trending in a downward direction? Is it even fair to think about that?

11:55Chris Brockman:He played five games last year, only played well, and really in one of them. And they lost that game. Everything for the commanders two years ago fell apart last year. I mean, name me, I understand I'm throwing a dart here.

12:12Rich Eisen:Name me one thing that they did well in their NFC Championship game run season of two years ago that happened again last year. Yeah. Not even Quinn, not even the coordinators, not even, I mean. I mean, it started with the Terry McCorn holdout.

12:28Chris Brockman:Was he going to get traded? All of it. Then he gets injured. All of it.

12:31Rich Eisen:So how much of that can you lay at the feet of Jaden Daniels? And that's the debate right now. Then we see games, you know, and then you look at the Washington commanders schedule. It's first up at Philadelphia. I mean, and then at Dallas and then home for Seattle. So the first three weeks we're going to find out. Yeah. They got to steal one of those. And it's interesting you say steal, but I'm just wondering.

13:00Chris Brockman:They're not going to be favored in any of them. We're not expecting them to probably win any of those games, right?

13:04Rich Eisen:They then play a home game in London. And then they've got the Giants. They've got at San Francisco on a Monday night. Then a bye week before they play Philadelphia again at home. And then the Rams at home. That's the first half of their season. Oh, that's tough. So what you're saying about make or break, I don't, when you say break, that means like we're done with jayden daniel i'm not saying that i don't think that's the case

13:34Chris Brockman:there could be a cj stroud level conversation surrounding jayden daniels after his third year where it's like okay you got the one run and then now what that's again the cj stroud level

13:46Rich Eisen:conversation that you're referring to does not apparently raise above the level of shows like overreaction monday and first take and our show where we're talking about it i don't believe inside the Texans facility, they're like, this guy's not our future quarterback. It just depends what number we're comfortable at coming to, you know, coming to with Stroud.

14:09Chris Brockman:Yeah, but it's not a snap call yes on extension. It's like, all right, let's think about it for a second.

14:15Rich Eisen:No, I think it is.

14:15Chris Brockman:Where they're thinking about the dollar value and how many years do we want to do it?

14:20Rich Eisen:No, I bet you sodium pentothal to Nick Casario and the owners of the McNair family. By the way, we send our condolences to the McNair family on the loss of the matriarch. They're absolutely CJ Straub. I'd be surprised otherwise, but does he get a contract extension now? I don't know. Just Dayton Daniels put himself in that boat with a very difficult season. I don't know. good questions all around what else you got over there chris okay rich last week we talked to

14:57Chris Brockman:jeremy fowler about uh the list the the top 10 list that he's been compiling for all positions uh but quarterback specifically was kind of the focus here you see the top 10 it's josh allen patrick mahomes matthew stafford joe burro lamar yes and then you know dac herbert may goff caleb williams right someone from six through ten on this list is going to win a super bowl before Or one through five?

15:19Rich Eisen:Oh, great one, Chris. I think that's an overreaction. I think somebody from one through five wins it this year. Oh, wow. How about that? Don't ask me which one.

15:31Chris Brockman:Which one? Good one. Is it a repeat winner or a new winner?

15:37Rich Eisen:I would go repeat winner.

15:39Chris Brockman:So either the Chiefs or Rams are winning this year.

15:41Rich Eisen:I don't know. If you're putting me, you're making me. Well, you said things and I'm spotting you. I'd go number three again. But then, but that's the low hanging fruit that everybody thinks that Stafford and the Rams are going to win it all this year. But six or 10 would be fun. Well, it certainly would be, you know, and, and just, I don't know. Do you have a Dallas subject? I do. Okay, great. So I'll, I'll hold my, my Dallas conversation for later on. Um, and I know you feel Drake may is going to be, I think he's one of them. Right. I think he's great. But, um, great, great one i i don't i don't think this is an overreaction i don't anything can happen anything is possible in this league crazier things have happened yada yada and yada um i can't sit here and say no way you're crazy you're out of the realm you're you're absolutely it's entirely possible yeah dac or herbert or may you know or goff or caleb williams i'm not even taking this year i'm just saying no i know yeah but i i decided to just answer you i know that was great and then one-up you because I can't help myself.

16:47Chris Brockman:I mean, Sam Darnold, not in the top 10. Seattle won.

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19:41Rich Eisen:All right, second half. What do you got over there, Chris?

19:43Chris Brockman:Second half. Here we go. More quarterback talk, Rich. A lot of these quarterback battles, competitions that we're going to have coming up in training camp. How about this? The loser of one of these QB battles is going to get traded before week one.

19:56Rich Eisen:the loser of one of these QB battles which QB battles again?

20:01Chris Brockman:it's a you know Kyler Murray versus JJ McCarthy Shador and Deshaun whatever's going on in Arizona

20:07Rich Eisen:the only way this happens is a what Sam Bradford type moment you know that requires that acquisition because Teddy Bridgewater of whomever has a catastrophic injury you know what I'm saying? in the preseason? yeah that's the only way Why would the Vikings trade J.J. McCarthy going into the season? Why would Michael Penix get traded? Why would Shador get traded? He'd still get a high draft pick. I understand what a high draft pick is, but there but for the grace of the football gods go anybody that you're one snap away. Why would you trade away any second-string quarterback in this league these days when the third-string quarterback more than likely is going to end up playing anyway for your team?

20:53Rich Eisen:I wouldn't do it. if I'm an owner of a team, I look at the general manager and go, are you out of your mind? Have you lost it? Because we need this player for four to six. We need to stay afloat. We hope that this player is going to be good enough to keep us afloat four to six during the season. But no, yeah, I'll just call this an overreaction. Unless it's injury-related, none of these guys are going to be on the move. None of them. What else?

21:24Chris Brockman:Fernando Mendoza is so good, and someone's like,

21:26Rich Eisen:oh, we'll take Kirk Cousins for a third. Not a chance. Not a chance. Because then he goes down, and then what? Then what? What are you going to do? I guess you've got Aiden O 'Connell. I don't think so. Okay. Plus, Kirk's contract is significant, as always. I mean, that's the whole reason. You see what his contract is. It's not like, hey, here's$5 million. You're our backup. So what else you got?

21:50Chris Brockman:All right. After the Scadaboo backflip at Fanatics Fest, Oh, my goodness. Giants fans should be very nervous about 2026.

21:59Rich Eisen:That is a great topic bar for overreaction because that is the ultimate overreaction. Oh, whoa. What was he doing? I don't know. I don't know what he was doing. He was showing off his leg and see what I can do. If you are going to attempt something like that,

22:14Chris Brockman:you better be damn 100 % sure that you are going to stick the landing like Simone Biles.

22:19Rich Eisen:I think he did stick the landing. I think it was just the surface. He slipped on it. yeah no no i i the neat thing is that he does look like he's physically able to do that yes but what it does call into question again is jackson dart will he protect himself on the field cam scadaboo is he gonna make sure that he is in fact ready to roll and completely healthy it's the question of the leader of the team the quarterback and his sidekick the tango and cash of the new york giants as we like to say the two of them are very brash they're very young they're very good and you're very excited but it's their decision making that's a question and one would think john harbaugh would be able to step in and make sure they make the right decisions who showed john harbaugh that video over the weekend great question it's like oh you whoever showed john harbaugh that video would have to start by saying the headline is he's okay the good news the good

23:22Chris Brockman:is the headline he's totally fine but who's fine what but and then you show okay i mean dude do you think for any second over the weekend harbaugh was like what am i doing why did i do this no no no no

23:36Rich Eisen:no he's not second guessing what what why did i become the coach of the new york giants not at all okay not at all i think i would know just a split second but he has to sit there and go what is what what is this kid's malfunction? And then be able to just say, okay, how can we channel that wildness and that wild side into a rep, you know, into a carry? You know what I mean? Like, that's his challenge. Tyrone Tracy just perked up. He's like, what? I don't think you could sit here writ large and say the Giants season is going to stink because of it. Okay, all right. But it was definitely a big blue heart and a big blue throat.

24:13Rich Eisen:No doubt about that, for sure.

24:16Chris Brockman:All right, let's stay in the NFC East, Rich. Dak was talking over the weekend, said it's always Super Bowl or bust for the Cowboys, right? When you're the Dallas Cowboys, anything less than that final Sunday is a disappointment. But it's been a while since they've been in that game. So for the Cowboys this year, anything less than an NFC championship appearance would be a disappointment.

24:39Rich Eisen:I don't think so. I wouldn't say that. It would...

24:47Chris Brockman:here's the thing that's right there for them no i understand that let's sound this out

24:50Rich Eisen:let's sound this out because this this reeks of a segment on our show that's sure either happen later today or or or in future future shows so i was just talking about this i forget with who over the weekend but the cowboys have an opportunity to be the one seed in the nfc correct they have the opportunity to be the one seed in the nfc what i mean by that is they've got uh an elite quarterback yeah no doubt call deck that right he sits on the on the top 10 list from that's been awesome for a long time from the unnamed scouts executives and coaches etc okay they've got two terrific wide receivers one who's a plus elite and one who had a season

25:34Chris Brockman:where he was well i'm not sure if you saw the the top 10 wide receiver list both were on it CD Lam and George.

25:39Rich Eisen:Okay.

25:39Chris Brockman:So they got that.

25:40Rich Eisen:Yeah. Gervonta Williams had a superb season is the running back. And one would think that he's going to be just as good. Even if he's close to that, one would think the rest of the running game will improve. The line should be if healthy protect, they've got a terrific tight end as well. They do. Okay. Defensively, they've got Quinn and Williams in his first full season there next to Kenny Clark, next to a Sean Gary. They also drafted that kid, Caleb Downs, in the back. I keep talking about, you know, overshown over and over again. He's, when healthy, fast as lightning. They drafted the kid from my school in Jay Sean Barham.

26:21Rich Eisen:They have pieces, man. Yeah, you'd think they'd be much improved on defense. Best field goal kicker, too? He can give you three points from 70 yards out? No doubt. Okay, so that's that.

26:33Chris Brockman:Yeah.

26:33Rich Eisen:then you know and then the coach who i think is emotionally brilliant and um and i think the coach did better than what people thought he was going to be correct year yeah then you look at their schedule can i have the dallas cowboys schedule if you don't mind um they open up at the giants home for washington they take on baltimore in um in brazil they're at houston okay that's not a terribly difficult start. They've got Tampa Bay at home on a Thursday night. And then here we go. This is my point. They're at Green Bay. They play Philadelphia twice, as we all know. They then play San Francisco and the Rams.

27:12Rich Eisen:And they also play Seattle. They play a lot of playoffs. That's what I'm saying. They have the opportunity, if they win enough games and then win enough of those other head-to-head games, they can have tiebreakers all over the map in their favor. At the end of the day, put it on the table and go, we're the one seed in the NFC. I mean, that's not out of the realm. Yeah, Green Bay, Philly, Seattle, Rams. Right, right. Yeah, right. And Dallas does not play Chicago. All right. So just again, just wanted to keep throwing out teams that you think have a chance to win the NFC. You could even throw, again, Tampa in there.

27:50Rich Eisen:They've got Tampa on the schedule. So they have enough of these head-to-heads on their schedule for them to handle their own destiny and control it. Okay? Now, to your point, if they then go to the divisional round and get one and done. Exactly. Now, that's a disappointment. Okay? So I could sit there and go, eh, you know, this is not, like, if they don't make the NFC Championship, hey, at least it's a step forward. If they're the one seed and get one and done at home, you're all like, what was that one? What was it all for? That was like The Shining, where, you know, Scatman Crothers travels all that way just to get an axe in the chest.

28:24spoiler alert but um or or they're not the one seed they win a playoff game they get to some

28:35Rich Eisen:spot on the road and then have a des caught it type loss but even if they're sitting here like now they've moved a step forward did they yeah of course they did they didn't make the playoffs last year man they had a lot going on with injuries and obviously you know losing a teammate midseason I mean they had a lot going on so yeah it would be an improvement they make the playoffs they win a playoff game they go on the road they they perform well enough there they came just close so this is a proper reaction and an overreaction at the same time but if they're the

29:10Chris Brockman:three seed and they beat the lions right in the first and then right at home and then they go and then you know then San Francisco comes to their house and they get whacked what are we going to

29:20Rich Eisen:talking about um i i understand what we're talking about but in the long run is it better than the previous year the answer is yes okay the answer is yes but i'm just saying the dallas cowboys have have a chance to finally get off the schneid and make the nfc championship game they really do they have a roster that is uh really good and the schedule gives them the opportunity to personally handle their business, not hope somebody else has to do it for them. What else you got?

29:50Chris Brockman:Last one. Okay. Last one, a little bit more quarterback talk, kind of looking at this year's draft, and we're thinking next year's quarterback draft could be, you know, kind of the one that we're talking about for a while, but you never know what's going to happen. Someone who has drafted a quarterback late this year is not going to take one in the first round next year.

30:09Rich Eisen:I think that's possible.

30:10Chris Brockman:Cardinals, Jets, Steelers, kind of the ones that I'm looking at. with back K Clubnick and True Aller.

30:15Rich Eisen:I think it's possible. But all you keep seeing, and rightfully so, and I can't wait for the college football season to start to prove it out, because there's also always going to be a quarterback you're not thinking of that's going to be must-have that suddenly throws himself into the first round.

30:30Chris Brockman:Yeah, someone or two people always have great college seasons. Joe Burrow had one of them.

30:35Rich Eisen:Don't you remember going into that season? It's like two or bust. Remember you even came on the air and mentioned in October, somebody's like, Burrow's going to get drafted. number one overall yeah yeah we saw a mock draft we saw like october like they got joe burrow number one i'm glad i'm glad that that does not uh that let's put it this way that video exists somewhere i'm just glad these people haven't found it yet because it will not bode well for us well we're just like really joe burrow so so um yeah where where somebody feels that the kid that

31:07Chris Brockman:they drafted this year is real enough yeah like what if i would go arizona with that one okay Okay, the other name that I saw that kind of sparked this thought was Cade Klubnick with the Jets. Like, this was a guy who was highly rated throughout all the years at Clemson, then just kind of stumbled near the end of his career. Now he kind of is in a good spot. Gino isn't the guy. This guy gets an opportunity, and now the Jets are like, whoa, we got a guy.

31:31Rich Eisen:Let me tell you something. If Cade Klubnick gets run this year because Gino is either hurt or needs to be sat, okay, and Cade Klubnick gets in there and starts performing well enough that the Jets win a game here, win a game there, but they're still in the top five and they don't draft a quarterback because they're like, we believe in Cade Klobnik. That would be a hell of a sell to a fan base that has been sold now for a year, full calendar year coming up on, we've just hit the reset button one more time, and we are trading away all those young Turks that we drafted in the first round in the last couple years so we can get new fresh draft choices that we're not going to use on a quarterback because Cade Klubnick's the guy.

32:12Rich Eisen:He's going to have to – Cade is going to have to show up like Jeremy Lin on top of Kevin Moss on top of – name any New York guy that just flashed. Okay? He's going to have to be that guy on top of that guy on top of that guy and then propose to the Jets fan base on top of the spire on the Empire State Building and take a selfie. So I don't know if you're going to put the Jets – We know that can't be done, by the way. I'll be a hell of a sell.

32:38Chris Brockman:It's a hell of a sell. I guess you bring up Arizona, and I'm thinking, I guess a lot of people, I would expect Carson Beck to play this year. I don't think a lot of people are expecting Cade to play. Oh, I do, too.

32:46Rich Eisen:That's why I'm pegging them. Yeah. But he's also, you know, I mean, he's not Brandon Whedon, but he's also in his mid-20s practically. He's won a lot of games. Well, he's been around a while. Yeah. So, yeah, I'll just call this an overreaction for the moment, but it's borderline. Worth looking at down the line. We're putting a pin in. Yeah. Well done, sir. Thank you. We're back. We are.

33:10Chris Brockman:I love it.

33:11Rich Eisen:We are back. Chris Brockman and I are off next Monday. Cause I'm in Michigan next Monday on the campus of not on the campus of Michigan at coach Whittingham's golf event. Nice. So I will be there. Excellent. You'll be here. I'll be there. We're going to do the show from there. So there'll be no overreaction Monday pod that Monday. But after that, we're on like the proverbial Kong O'Donkey. Pull back. Okay. Yes, buddy. For Chris, I am rich. That's Overreaction Monday presented by Gusto. Getting ready for training camps and more. Oh, baby.

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