NFL Week 10: Pats are AFC's Best, JT Goes Off (Again), Daboll Giants' Future & More

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0:33Rich Eisen:10 weeks two and a half months in the books with the exception of a big fat monday nighter in green bay wisconsin between the eagles and the packers time for another edition of overreaction monday good to see you christopher brockman what's up man i am rich eisen we say hello to anybody who's watching this show on our youtube channel youtube.com slash rich eisen show or the cut down version on espn too and of course we say hello to anybody who listens to us wherever you get your podcasts. Are you ready, Christopher Brockman? Oh, I was born for a day like today, Rich Eisen. All right. Well, that's because your Patriots have won 8 of 10 to start the season.

1:09Rich Eisen:Hit it. Hit it. Hit it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This play sucks. Overreaction. Mondays. Monday. All right, Christopher. What have you got cooked up for me, sir? Well, it's funny how you mention the Patriots because, Rich Eisen, I've been waiting five long years to say this phrase. is the Patriots are the best team in the AFC. I'm going to still push back on you on that front and say the Colts have the same record as you and also that me having the Broncos above your Patriots in my power rankings last week did not age very well, even though all three teams I just mentioned won in week 10 to go to eight and two and create that three-way tie atop the American Football Conference right now.

1:53Rich Eisen:I just think, again, let's put it this way. The Patriots and the Colts have, in my mind, the two frontrunners for the most valuable player award in the NFL through 10 weeks. And that's Drake May, obviously, for the Patriots, and Jonathan Taylor for the Indianapolis Colts. Both of them came up with MVP-type performances in, I guess, road games, road contests, or games that weren't in their homes because it was a Colts home game in Berlin. It did seem like it. To kick off four windows of football on Sunday. But again, Drake May dropping footballs 50 yards away from him into the hands of the receivers just as they're in stride.

2:41Rich Eisen:And it's a feathery football that just falls into their hands. Again, I keep returning what Kurt Warner said earlier in the month or late October that Drake may is the best deep thrower of the football in the national football league. And they're like handoffs. And that happened again when they were up 21 16 yesterday, and they needed to flip the field and win this football game in Tampa in the rain when things weren't looking very good. And then you have obviously what Jonathan Taylor did bouncing back from that loss in Pittsburgh, where he and the rest of the team didn't look at all like they did for the rest of the previous eight games of their season at that point.

3:25Rich Eisen:So I think the Patriots are in this conversation, which nobody thought would be possible coming into the season, certainly when they were 1-2 or even 2-2, or even when they went to 3-2 by beating Buffalo in Western New York on that Sunday night. Yeah, that was like, oh, that was a nice win. Let's see what you can do from here. Yeah, super high register, but the way they've built on it, it's been unbelievable to watch. Right. They had won their second in a row by beating Buffalo on that Sunday night in week five to get above 500 for the first time all year. And for the first time, I think, in several years, as a matter of fact.

4:02Rich Eisen:And it was kind of like, OK, let's see what you can do from here. And all they've done is win five more in a row after that to go to eight and two. I'll just call this an overreaction for the moment. But you're not you're not completely far afield from anything. I think the Colts are still at eight and two, the best team in the AFC right now. And the Broncos just, they are way too inconsistent on offense for my liking. They are, at some point, they're not going to either A, wake up in quarter number four or their first three-quarter struggles on offense that keeps putting their remarkable defense back on the field is going to come up and catch them against a team from the nfc east whose large lead against them won't be overcome in philadelphia or the giants i i think it's going to come back to bite them at some point unless they can iron these things out and interestingly enough their next game is against kansas city week 11 by the way is chock full of big time contests including the eagles taking on the lions after tonight's game against the pacers we'll get to that in a second just patriots have won eight games combined in the last two years yeah they have eight wins on november 10th that is absolutely insane i again And we were all hearing about how this team's draft was terrific and how Vrabel was going to come and change things around and how Drake May was going to take a step forward.

5:22Rich Eisen:But I think even this is off the charts unexpected, what's come to win eight of 10 like this. Crazy. And I know you were upset about how, you know, Joel Milton beating the Bills in week 18 last year. I kind of was. As Gerard Mayo was truly dead man coaching in that game, cost you the Travis Hunter opportunity at second overall to draft him. Well, Will Campbell being the consolation prize has been nothing but terrific. And here's the stat for you to help you out. And the rest of you Massachusetts fans, I will say. Thank you. Thanks for cleaning that up. We're talking to a linear cable audience as well right now.

6:02Rich Eisen:New England has scored 23 or more points or allowed 23 or fewer points in each of the last seven games. So their seven-game win streak has been they've scored more than 23 and allowed 23 or fewer. Okay. That is the longest streak of such games within a season by the Patriots in team history. And again, we know they once upon a time had an undefeated regular season. That's true. In 2007. the eight previous times in nfl history where a team had such a streak of seven or more games within a season either went on to win the super bowl or the afl nfl championship five of the previous eight so interesting the last team to do it were last year's eagles the team before that to do it were kurt warner's rams dang that was a long gap between correct the eagles and the teams that have only had a longer streak so let's say the patriots say score more than 23 and give up fewer than 23 against their next opponent the jets on thursday night they would tie the 84 49ers an eight game win streak of such a thing they are doing it and they're doing it on in every phase.

7:18They got the home runs yesterday. Kyle Williams finally announced his presence with authority, and Trevion Henderson had the two long touchdown runs, something fans have been waiting for all season. I've had enough talking about you. Understand. Let's move on. Let's stay in the AFC East. I get that weird things happen in Miami, but I think there's a larger issue going on with the Bills. The Bills are not going to win a playoff game this year, and their Super Bowl window is closed.

7:41Rich Eisen:I'll say that's an overreaction. I hate the Super Bowl window is closed conversation. I just can't stand that. You know, I can't. I mean, just, again, how many times did you, again, as a Patriot fan, hear Tom Brady's Super Bowl window is closed, that his first few years in which he came into the league and won three in five years was something, or three in four years was something that would, that's it. It's over. It's over. Even when, you know, Eli Manning beat him, and then the conversation how it was over in the middle of the Super Bowl against the Falcons and their Super Bowl window wasn't even closed in that Super Bowl.

8:21Rich Eisen:Okay, so I just will not count this conversation. To paraphrase a famous political moment, I mean, I am friends and no Tom Brady. I mean, Josh Allen is no Tom Brady. Like, let's be honest. Very few people are Tom Brady, even though Drake May is having Tom Brady-like stats in his first two years of his career. And I cannot push back that things don't look good for the Buffalo Bills. I cannot push back on the fact that... It's supposed to be a, I mean, they're coming off a huge win against Kansas City. They're supposed to have all the momentum, get back into the mix as AFC contenders. What was that on Sunday?

8:53Rich Eisen:And the Dolphins are coming off of that dreadful Thursday night loss against the Ravens where they did nothing right, fired their general manager and wound up trading away Jalen Phillips to the Eagles. They're in tank mode. After all of that. Listen, it does not look good. They have eight giveaways in their three losses this season. Eight. Do you know last year, this is kind of like a did you know, last year they had a league-fewest eight giveaways all season long. So they are doing things this year that we didn't see last year, and that may be the difference between last year being, well, you know, everybody says we don't have the weapons to succeed around Josh Allen.

9:36Rich Eisen:Well, look at us. We're the sum of our parts. They didn't make mistakes last year like they're doing right now, And now maybe those mistakes in these games in which they have lost makes this roster look like it has holes in the same way last year it did not. Or it's a similar roster, and that's the difference between making the playoffs and winning a playoff game or not, as you're saying right now. I can't sit here and say the Bills will win a playoff game this year. Because it sure looks like they're going to have to go on the road. and it looks like they're going to have to go on the road to say maybe Baltimore if Baltimore keeps winning football games.

10:18Rich Eisen:They may have to go on the road and take on the Patriots again. They may have to go on the road into Denver and win that game against a defense that would be, I would think, tougher than the Dolphins one that put the bang thing on them on Sunday. Yeah, I think so. They may have to go into Indianapolis as well. And against the teams in recent memory, sure, Josh Allen can win those games. But in the current construct where James Cook is either not running it because they don't give it to him enough, or two, he is running it and you're stopping him. And like yesterday, having a giveaway in the red zone by him, the Bills are beatable.

10:56Rich Eisen:And they are definitely not Super Bowl-worthy contenders this year if they play like this. But the window's closed. I just don't want to hear any of that stuff. Oh, your window's closed. Forget it. then you're one draft choice away from maybe the window being open again. Or you redo your roster because you do have a terrific general manager in Brandon Beeney. You do have somebody like Josh Allen to build around. I'm just, I don't buy that Super Bowl windows closed thing. So I'll just call this an overreaction and ask you to move on, sir. Okay, I will move on. I'm going to come west like everyone did back in the day, Rich.

11:29The NFC road to the Super Bowl goes through the west.

11:33Rich Eisen:In both? Oh, the NFC, okay. Yeah, either Seattle or either the Rams. The NFC road to the Super Bowl goes through the West. I was again thinking about how I'm going to talk about this on the flagship show on Monday. Again, we record this every Monday, overreaction Monday before the Rich Eisen show every single Monday, like every day, 12 to 3 Eastern time. Disney Plus, ESPN, Happy ESPN Radio. Keep going. Okay, all right. And that the Monday night game is big and the loser would be left reeling a little bit. Eagles less so because that division, I think, is theirs regardless of a win or loss Monday night.

12:14Rich Eisen:I think you're right about that. But that would also mean the conference might not be theirs because the Packers would take a step forward. And the Lions just looked like, again, the Lions again. We're going to talk about them. Okay. And, you know, with Dan Campbell calling the plays. Hold on. Okay. um so i will say though that the as i let off this show with you that week 11 is chock full of big time matchups rams hosting the seahawks is one of them the seahawks are a wagon they are and the rams with matthew stafford as i mentioned on this show i think three weeks ago is that this will be the year in which matthew stafford convinces anybody who has doubts about his Hall of Fame credentials that he is a Hall of Famer.

13:01Rich Eisen:Well, you said this is about you said the Colts and Patriots have the front two front runners for MVP. Oh, Stafford's in there. What about Matthew? I mean, Matthew Stafford is in the mix. I mean, Drake may have the same odds right now. Yeah, I mean, what Matthew Stafford's done over the last three weeks is truly unbelievable. And the stat I have on that regard, I will read to you right now, sir, is that Matthew Stafford over the last three weeks has had touchdown games of five, four, and four. Okay, that's 13 of them. That's just quick math, yeah. Okay, in a three-game span. Outrageous. In the Super Bowl era, only Brady and Roethlisberger have had a better result of 14 touchdowns with no interceptions in that three-game span.

13:52Rich Eisen:and Brady and Mahomes, who did it in 2018, won the MVP. Roethlisberger didn't, nor did Russell Wilson, who had 13 in 2015, as we know both of those guys famously, what, never even got a vote for MVP? Well, they did the voting different back then. Correct. But Matthew Stafford in the Super Bowl era to have four or more passing touchdowns and three or more straight games in a row. okay i just told you about any three game span within a season okay um overlapping spans since 1970 i just gave you that stat but within a season in the super bowl era there is only one quarterback to have had four more passing touchdowns and zero interceptions in three straight games and that's matthew stafford over the last three games because everyone else who's had a streak like this russell Wilson as I mentioned Mahomes and Drew Brees had three straight games of four more passing touchdowns within a season Marino had one better in 1984 he did it four straight times and Peyton Manning did it five straight times in 2004 all of them had thrown at least one interception in that stretch not Matthew Stafford so yes he's balling and Seattle's defense is lit but I I just can't sit here and say we have to discount the NFC North.

15:19Rich Eisen:We cannot discount the Bucs if and when they get Evans Godwin and Bucky Irving back. And I cannot discount the defending Super Bowl champs. So I'll call this an overreaction. As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Granger has your back. From professional-grade products you can count on to fast, dependable delivery, they're there to help you keep things running smoothly. Plus, their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions. And because Grainger knows safety is always a priority, they're committed to being your partner in protecting both your people and your facilities.

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16:36What else, sir? we saw a if you woke up for the fourth window of football here on the on the west coast uh you saw a performance for the ages uh from rb to eight jonathan taylor locked up at least one award on

16:49Rich Eisen:sunday oh i agree there's just no doubt of that there's no doubt and i and i i love what christian mccaffrey has done and i'm just wondering again uh if the voters at the end of the day by the way i I will utilize this platform to let you know I finally have gotten a vote from the Associated Press. No way. Yes, we'll discuss it more on The Rich Eisen Show. Oh my gosh, congratulations. I appreciate you saying that. That's awesome. It's only been 22 years. But at any rate, I can only see how McCaffrey, if he continues on his path, and also Taylor on his path and a quarterback on his path, that the split at the end of the day amongst my now fellow voters might be best quarterback MVP.

17:38Rich Eisen:Jonathan Taylor, best running back, gets offensive player of the year, and Christian McCaffrey gets a highly deserved comeback player of the year award. I just don't know how the players would view such things. But Jonathan Taylor locked up at least one award. Sunday. I mean, it's a great way to put it at least one. Listen, man, that was unbelievable. He is just spectacular. And the number of times that I'm sitting there watching the game with Cooper, and I'm sure some other people sitting at home, uh, wherever you were watching this early window of football on NFL network, um, that you're sitting there saying, why don't they want to just kick the field goal in overtime and just end it.

18:17Rich Eisen:Just end it. I would have liked that. It would have given me a fantasy win. This interesting enough. You would say that, But when you've got Jonathan Taylor and you're just like, just keep running until they stop. And then at some point we'll just stop calling plays and we'll just kick a field goal. Cause he's not going to fumble it and you're not going to stop them. So let's just end it this way. It might be a better percentage handing it to 28, the way that he is playing and sending a kicker out. You're probably right. And to attempt to lay up, you know, they might, you might blow the bunny here in, in, in Germany.

18:47Rich Eisen:And then all of a sudden, where does that leave you? I mean, that's how, that's how incredible he is. On his house call, he was stuffed. And then he just kind of bounced it, and then he was gone. What he is doing this year is unbelievable. First of all, he surpassed Edron James for most career rushing touchdowns in Colts history just like that. He leaves the NFL with 17 scrimmage touchdowns in 2025. That's the most through the first 10 games of a season in Colts history. He now has the most career games with 200 or more scrimmage yards and two or more touchdowns in NFL history with five behind only two.

19:22Rich Eisen:Okay, he's third, tied for third, behind LT and Derrick Henry, tied with Jim Brown and Eric Dickerson. And in terms of the most career games with 200 or more scrimmage yards and three rushing touchdowns, he's now tied with Derrick Henry for second place all time behind LaDainian Tomlinson with four, and he's still going this season. He's halfway done. So this, sir, normally in week 10, I'd say you're out of your mind, but this 100 % is a proper reaction. and he locked up at least one postseason award on Sunday for sure. What else, sir? Rich, we saw something cool. It was a playoff rematch in our nation's capital, Lions, Commanders.

20:00Yes, sir. And Dan Campbell did something awesome. And I think if Dan Campbell calls offensive plays the rest of the season, the Lions will be the one seed.

20:08Rich Eisen:The one seed is a tall order. That was an offensive explosion. It was. It was. and by the way i just don't know if it is an eyesight thing with him because he was wearing glasses um or the so the play sheet needed to be that big in his hand because he needed the font to be large enough for him to see it with his glasses because the way i call football games and i'm in the booth i do have it sort of like this i sort of go full chuck schumer right here like with the glasses on the bridge of my nose because I need to see over my glasses. That's what he was doing. Right. He was doing this whole thing.

20:48Rich Eisen:Or the play sheet is just needs to be proportional to his size. Right. But this is the thing that I'm sitting there while I'm wondering two things. The diner menu. Exactly. Like it can't, it could have been, if it was the regular thing, it would have looked like a postage stamp in his big ass man hands. Right. Or it just, you know, this is the thing I was thinking while watching. That's funny. While also then wondering, why is he doing this? Right. I mean, that was a lot of people's first reaction. How about let me do this? Let me say this. If he calls offensive plays for the rest of the season, it would be odd if he doesn't now.

21:26Rich Eisen:Yeah. With the results that we saw. You can't really go backwards. With the results. With this. That we saw. With all due respect to Mr. Morton. Well, Johnny Morton, listen, and this is where I'm going with this, because, again, Washington also has now lost four in a row by 21 or more points. That's the longest losing streak in the NFL with a single season like that since the 2002 Cardinals. So understood. But what they came up with is a season-high total yards 546, rushing yards 226, and first downs with 30. If he keeps doing this, okay, I'm not going to say they'll be the one seed because there's too many other teams right now that I would be disrespecting by saying that.

22:05Rich Eisen:Sure. I will say he is loaded. I will say the fact that he would take away the play calling in the middle of the season without a boo or a peep throughout the week leading up to it. To what's like, oh, he's calling the plays and doesn't have a revolt on the offensive side of the ball and his staff. That sets him up for coach of the year. Oh, interesting. How about that? If Dan Campbell keeps calling offensive plays and the Lions play well enough for the one seed. Then that's coach of the year material. Although I understand. I got it. I understand. Normally you go with teams that are surprising.

22:39Rich Eisen:You go with the surprising picks. What about what the ones that have been at the top and have gone through changes prior to the season, as well as the season in which you're doing it? To do that? To have the, I mean, listen, nobody's ever questioned or been surprised by the size of church bells in relation to Dan Campbell. But that's quite something to do. I was stunned. I couldn't, and it worked out the way it did. Man. Oh, man. Next up it's V Vic Fangio against the Eagles in week number 11. So I'd be surprised if, if he gives up the play calling at this point in time, for sure. Rich, you were at SoFi on Sunday night.

23:20I was indeed. For Steelers Chargers. I was indeed. Basically a Pittsburgh home game, I think, right? That is correct, sir. Well, they saw not great quarterback play. The cliff has come for Aaron Rodgers, and the Steelers should think about starting Mason Rudolph. That's absurd. That's positively insane.

23:38Rich Eisen:He was terrible. That may be out of all of your topics that are built to be outrageous because of the construct of this show and what it's about. That may be the most outrageous one to date. Really? Through the 10 plus weeks of this show in 2025. You've got to be out of your mind. He was awful. One of the worst games he's ever played. I'm not denying that, but for you to say he's finished, the cliff has arrived, and let's try Mason Rudolph. Mason Rudolph is there in case of emergency. I think we have an emergency. No, we don't. Not to the point where you've got to bring in Mason Rudolph until you tell Aaron Rodgers.

24:18Rich Eisen:You know, here, Aaron, your physical skill set looked so bad in that one game after your physical skill set looked so great in the week previous when the defense was crushing it. The week previous. Excuse me. Excuse me. The defense did a lot of covering up. You know what? You could say that all you want, but Aaron Rodgers, through the first nine games of this season, has been 100 % physically better than anybody thought. And we were even talking about it a couple weeks ago on this very podcast and show, Chris, about how he looked like he had turned back the clock physically and how terrific he had been playing.

24:55Rich Eisen:And neck up, neck up. What are you going to sit that neck up ability down So Mason Rudolph's, you know, much younger neck up. Imagine, imagine Rodgers neck up in the physical ability of Mason Rudolph. Look, maybe Rodgers is only built for eight or nine weeks and he's now reached the point of the season where his 41 year old body can't do it anymore. Dude, here's the deal. Look at the Steelers schedule. They go home to take on the Bengals who, again, beat the Steelers on that Thursday night. Not because of what Rodgers was doing. As a matter of fact, Rogers was making throws in that game like the one of Friarmouth at the end that were one of those turn back the clock situations.