NFL Week 3: Herbert is MVP, Packers Fall, Bears Rise, Bengals Cooked & More

16:34Chris Brockman:All right. Let's stay in the NFC North. This was the game. Finally, we were waiting to see from Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, easily Caleb's best game of his career. The bears are going to finish top two in the NFC North.

16:52Chris Brockman:We're back. Nope. Beijing time is over. Baygent watch 2025 watches all has been that's correct that watch has been smashed that's correct okay it's overreaction overreaction Caleb has arrived the Bears are going to be in the

17:06Rich Eisen:playoff mix top two in the north gotta give it up he's only thrown four touchdowns in a game once before I would know because I called it in London last year he was great in that game uh this was the first time in his pro career he hasn't taken a sack in a game last time he didn't take a sack in a game was in college when USC whipped up on Stanford 56 to 10. And Luther Burden, the third, ladies and gentlemen, he has entered the chat. He has to see Cole commit entered the chat. Four different players with a receiving touchdown in week three. That's what you want to see. Roma Duns a season is here.

17:46Rich Eisen:That's what you want to see. You want to see it. And I like the fact the way that they're using DJ more out of the backfield as well. I get it. Come on, man. The Lions and the Packers are the cream of the NFC North crop, and the Vikings defense entered the chat as well. Let's just take it one at a time here. Everybody in Chicago, I'm glad that they got to see it in person as well. It's a process. Last year, I'm not going to say you have to flush it, But last year, there wasn't much of a process that Caleb can learn from. There wasn't a foundation. There wasn't guardrails of a clear-cut process of a way a coach was going to run things on the offensive side of the football.

18:40Rich Eisen:Shane Waldron wasn't it. As we know, Ibraflus wasn't it. The backup, the interim to the interim, which sounds like a George Costanza business card, wasn't it. He didn't have all of that as a foundation to come into this year as most second-year quarterbacks do. I'm not saying he started from scratch because he did get some experience last year, like being put on his ass last year over and over and over 68 times last year. And he didn't say a word. I mean, and that is a learning experience that he can grow from. It's going to take time. The Cowboys defensive backfield, man, that's a big problem.

19:22Rich Eisen:Trevon Diggs just doesn't look the same anymore. I don't think he is healthy at all. And if the back end of the defense doesn't get help from the front end of the defense, it is going to be a wrap. Russell Wilson lit him up. Caleb Williams lit him up. We might come out of this talking more about the defensive backfield of the Dallas Cowboys way, way more than we are talking about. Caleb Williams is on track. So that's too bad. I'm just expressing right now. Yeah. Overreaction that the Bears are now going to finish top two in their division. Let's just take it for what it is. Great game. Great experience.

19:59Rich Eisen:We can see how they can grow from it. Their next up, as we all know, is in Las Vegas. and you know that looks like a win right now it could be or you know Vegas could come back and go screw this you know what we've done over the last two weeks and the Condor is going to put him on his ass but if they can go into the bye week two and two they're going to feel good about themselves before a Monday night visit back to Washington D.C. where you know it all started caving in on them last year where they Hail Mary and then the conversation about Ibra Floos losing the locker room one at a time. Check the box.

20:38Rich Eisen:Great job. That's what we needed to see. And we'll see what more can come from it. But hey, do you have a shot to win the division now? I'll push back on that.

20:46Chris Brockman:I'm calling my shot four and two going into Baltimore week eight. Okay, good to know. You know who's not going to be four and two at any point this season? The Bengals. Their season is absolutely cooked, and they're going to be picking in the top ten this year.

20:57Rich Eisen:You know the way I'm talking about this now. Listen, that was brutal. and their next game next week is in Denver. That's not going to be an easy assignment on Monday night football as well. So Jake Browning going into Denver with Denver 1-2, easily could be 3-0, feeling their way back to 500 against a backup quarterback who has been interception-prone in his six quarters. And, you know, the rest of his team fumbling it all over the place and the Vikings defense being opportunistic. And I know that the Broncos defense might be one of the more popular fantasy week four plays. But what we're looking at with Jake Browning is potentially, and this is why he might be a backup, is a 500 quarterback.

21:47Rich Eisen:And if he is a 500 quarterback, even if he goes 0-2 to start, and this is going to be my retort on the flagship show as well, or for anybody on our friends at ESPN who used my season's not over as a topic bar launching off point for their conversations on their shows. This is my retort. Even if he starts 0-2, okay, let's just marathon it here. He goes even one game under.500, they're going to be 9-8 at the end of the season. Joe Burrow could potentially come back at the end of the year. All he's got to get is a team that's hovering around the 500 mark, if not at it or potentially above it. By the time he gets back, I am not declaring this season over again.

22:32Rich Eisen:It looked terrible. And Monday night in Denver may not look much better. But Cincinnati, you know, after that, by the way, has a home date with Detroit before they're at Green Bay and then a Thursday night are home for Pittsburgh before the Giants or the Jets at home, Chicago at home, a bye week they also have new new england at home there are some really tough games on their schedule there's a game at miami on a sunday night that if you listen right now that's the sound of a flex okay so there are some wins out there they're going to be some games that jake browning is going to have to win or the defense is going to have to come up with it it's going to be a long slog I don't believe the Super Bowl is within reach which I know they had a dream of before Joe Burrow's toe gave way so if you're saying that's the season's over that way okay but top 10 pick?

23:27Chris Brockman:I mean that's like what 6 wins 6 and 11 you knew we could call this an overreaction I'm not just immediately turning heel on myself I just wanted it out there love what this team did on Sunday, the last couple of weeks, actually. And it's funny when we talk about this team and this quarterback, it's always the other way around about how Minnesota screwed up and letting him go. Well, let's go the other way. Let's be positive. The Seahawks made the right move swapping Gino for Sam Darnold. I like it. I like it.

24:03Rich Eisen:Sam Darnold has been balling to start the year quietly. That's all Mike McDonald wanted to do from the minute he got there was to put his own stamp on things have his own players there have his own system put in you know some folks in seattle are still all over me whenever i see them about my take here when we found out that mike mcdonald replaced a lot of the photographs yeah yeah took all of the pete carroll photographs and all the championship photographs down off the wall put it on some sort of a digital frame somewhere and put his own stamp on things. And, and so, yeah, sending Gino Packin when Gino didn't want to sign for the amount of money that they were willing to give him and Pete getting the job in San Francisco, in, in Vegas saying, I'll take them.

24:49Rich Eisen:And then Sam Darnold saying, I'll take this amount of money from you. It made a complete sense for them to make this move. and Sam Darnold and the Seahawks could easily be 3-0 if somehow some way they had defended Purdy to Jake Tonjes in the last seconds of that game. You can potentially hear me sifting through because I'm trying to get this statistic right here that I saw earlier. Here it is of the Seattle Seahawks. They scored as many points in week three as they did in weeks one and two combined. So they're obviously taking off. The defense is doing its job. Unbelievable. Do you know the only team to allow 17 or fewer points in each of their first three games of the season would be the Seattle Seahawks?

25:32Rich Eisen:I like it. Sam Darnold had his eighth game of two or more passing touchdowns and no interceptions since 2024. Only Lamar, Josh Allen, and Jared Goff have had more in the last two seasons. So he's now doing in Seattle. Okay. I know it's against the New Orleans Saints, but he's doing in Seattle. At least he's had a game in Seattle like he's had in last year. So it's not like, uh-oh, he turned into a pumpkin. We saw the carriage. We did. In Lumen Field on Sunday. And the Seattle offense has been, Donald's led the offense to 48 more points in the last six quarters than in the first six quarters of the year.

26:11Rich Eisen:So they are taking off. And here's the thing, dude. We were all wondering, DK's going to Pittsburgh. What about, is Jackson Smith and Jigba ready to be the number one receiver of the Seattle Seahawks? and his 323 receiving yards so far are the most in the history of the team through the first three games of a season. So JSN is being found. Yep. And someone has to find them. And the defense is doing its job. Kenneth Walker, the third, is doing his job. Torrey Horton joins JSN and Metcalf as the only Seattle rookie wide receivers to have back-to-back games with a receiving touchdown in the last 10 seasons.

26:54Rich Eisen:Somebody's got to be the trigger man there. So, not an overreaction. I buy it, sir. Certainly when you're going to be reasonable in a topic bar like that, not like, hey, Vikings made a mistake in letting him go. You know I'm not going to sit here and make that reaction. Sure, we're going the other way.

27:12Chris Brockman:We're being positive with Sam Dyer.

27:13Rich Eisen:Got it. Well done, sir. They look like a playoff team, Seattle does. I'm wondering if I need to check your temperature. Because that was not as hot as it could be.

27:21Chris Brockman:Really? What else you got? How about this one? One of these guys was the sixth overall pick in the draft. The other was not. One of them is doing something when he gets the ball. Sounds like the open to the odd couple. The other is not. Okay. Cam Scadaboo is who we wish Ashton Gentry was. Well, they're different running backs. Are they? Big guys. They can catch the ball and they run dudes over. except one of them is creating yards. Cam Scadaboo last night had 121 total yards. I know that. Six yards a carry. Ashton Gentry has 147 total yards on the season. Yeah.

28:01Rich Eisen:Let me say something to you here.

28:04Chris Brockman:I swear this is not fantasy related also. I swear it's not.

28:08Rich Eisen:Stop it. Stop it. Because I know you have Scadaboo in some fantasy as well. But.

28:12Chris Brockman:This is just enjoyment of watching football and seeing these guys play. And one team, look.

28:18Rich Eisen:You're giving voice to the don't take a running back in the first round when you can get one later and he can be just as productive or more so. You're giving voice to that. And by the way, I understand why someone would say that. There's a difference between don't take a running back in the first round because you could get somebody better in the next one or the next one or the one after that. I'm not even saying that either. There's a difference between that or I'm not paying a running back who's already shown that he can be productive. And we are so dependent on that player to be an identity for our team and a safety valve for our team and a go to guy for our team.

28:56Rich Eisen:And I'm not going to pay that person after he has performed so I could take one in the draft. That's two totally different things. The first one, I have an understanding of. The second one, get out of here with that philosophy and team building and roster building. Yeah, that's what we heard about James Cook all offseason. He looks like a top five back. But hell hath no fury like a fantasy football owner scorned. And that's what this sounds like to me with you, sir. Because you were the king of, oh, got to take Ashton Gentry in the first round. I wanted the Patriots to take him. I wanted no part of Ashton Gentry in the first round.

29:31Rich Eisen:And in my league that I wanted to win more than anything else, everybody got picked clean from the running back department in the first round and it's ticking down and i'm sitting there in brazil and i'm like jet lagged out of my skull and i'm like i'm like if i could go back in time i could go on my fantasy delorean right now and say screw it take josh jacobs 15 picks later i mean 15 picks further down on on the who you should pick right But suggestions, let's just put it this way. Ashton Gentry, and right now, I mean, yeah, we wish Ashton Gentry was getting the production from Cam Scadaboo right now.

30:13Rich Eisen:That's for sure. But I'll just say this, that Gentry had his first two runs of 15 yards or more, and he had more rush yards in Washington, D.C. than he's had in the first two games. And, you know, the commanders were living in the Raiders backfield. If he struggles against the Bears defense, now we're talking about some sort of a question about what are you doing to develop this guy? I did see him pass protect a little bit.

30:42Chris Brockman:This is more of a shot at the Raiders than the player. I know what you're doing right now. I'm just saying, when I watched that game last night and I see Scadaboo banging off people and catching passes, I'm like, hey, that should be gente.

30:53Rich Eisen:I know. They have different mindsets. I don't know, man. I don't know what's going on. It's not working as well. So do I call this an overreaction or not? No, it's not. Because you want to see the production out of Gentee that the Giants are getting out of Scadaboo. So what else you got over there?

31:08Chris Brockman:Who has more yards when the season's over?

31:11Rich Eisen:Total. I don't know. With Tyrone Tracy out, it's interesting. And then we'll move on here. Omarion Hampton had a terrific game for the Chargers. I don't think he would have gotten nearly as many of those opportunities if Najee Harris hadn't popped his Achilles. Probably not. So sometimes the team's best laid plans of, we're just working the guy in. Let's just give it some time. Get thrown out the window when someone gets hurt. The minute Tyrone Tracy went down in the middle of the Sunday night game, it was like scataboo time now. Like, okay, screw it. Let's not save this guy for anything. And the same thing with the Chargers.

31:48Rich Eisen:They got a rushing touchdown out of Hampton. They got 120-plus scrimmage yards out of him. He is catching the ball. Right. So now like the best laid plans of like, let's work the kid from North Carolina in slowly. That's out the window. So Scadaboo may have more yards at the end of the day because Ashton Gentty, you know, they're just kind of, they're not like holding back on him other than the fact of like, they taking him out on third down because Gino needs to be pass protected. And for whatever reason, they think Dylan Lobby is, is a better or Lobby, pardon me. He's a better, you know, two-minute drill guy.

32:26Rich Eisen:So I don't have the answer for you on this. I guess I'll call this a proper reaction.

32:30Chris Brockman:All good. All right, two left, Rich. Okay. Let's talk about the Rams because what a game, what a performance until, you know, it kind of got away from them and obviously the block kick at the end. But when I watched them play and I watched their game plan against Philadelphia and I look at the rest of the way the NFC quote-unquote contenders played on Sunday, the Rams are still the only threat to the Eagles getting back to the Super Bowl in the NFC.

32:56Rich Eisen:You know how I feel about the Rams. I do, and I'm not trying to set you up, but I'm saying when I watch them. If you said the Rams are still the best threat, I would agree. You can't sit here and say only threat. You just can't. You can't sit here and say they're the only threat. Green Bay could be a threat.

33:14Chris Brockman:I didn't like what I saw at Green Bay.

33:15Rich Eisen:I got you, man. I got you.

33:17Chris Brockman:Look, Detroit could get blown out on Monday night.

33:19Rich Eisen:As we all know, Green Bay plays Philadelphia in week 10. That's a Monday nighter. It's going to be lit. It's going to be on. And they play them in Green Bay. If they take care of business there and they look them in the face and go, you got us last year in Brazil. And then we wound up having to come to you last year. You know what I mean? Like, it's not good. Right? When it's at the end of the day, you know, the Packers would love to have Philadelphia go to them again. So we'll see what happens in week 10. The Bucs, bro. The Bucs have Philadelphia's number almost always. That's the next game. Philly's in Tampa this coming week.

34:11Chris Brockman:We're going to talk about the Bucs in a second.

34:13Rich Eisen:Okay. So I'll call this an overreaction and say the Rams had them. The Rams had them exactly where they were. Had them. They had the place booing. And then the Eagles decided to say, screw it, we're just running it. I mean, we're throwing it. Pardon me. It was just kind of crazy. Because we know the way that the Eagles did the Rams last year, which was Saquon, Saquon, and then more Saquon. The Rams this year were like, that's not happening. And in the first half, they kept on trying to get Saquon loose and trying to get Jalen loose, and they couldn't. Couldn't. And then Jalen started unleashing his arm and the throwing and Goddard scores a touchdown.

34:50Rich Eisen:And A.J.

34:50Chris Brockman:Brown finally in the mix.

34:51Rich Eisen:I mean, so, yeah. And then on top of it, Matthew Stafford's never beaten Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts is now 4-0 against Stafford.

35:01Chris Brockman:Interesting. So this is not horseshoes.

35:05Rich Eisen:If this was horseshoes and hand grenades, I'd say yes. But it's not. Being close doesn't matter. There's no banners for that. No banner. I'll just say the Rams aren't the only one. What else? Finish off, Strongs. Last one.

35:17Chris Brockman:And we're going to talk about Tampa, like I said. Okay. As promised. As promised. And I know Baker's your boy. But he's been awesome. And when I watched the Bucs play the first three weeks of the year, you mentioned three game winners on the last drive. The Bucs have that team of destiny feel to them after the first three games.

35:38Rich Eisen:Sure. I'll buy it. But, I mean, you know, Mike Evans got his – seems to get his annual, you know, nagging injury that might keep him out.

35:46Chris Brockman:down especially when you have a buka amir buka doing right and it looks like worse and and godwin

35:51Rich Eisen:are right around the corner which is good for them um yeah i mean they do have it sure i'll buy it i mean baker is special he is special this is exactly the guy that the bucks were hoping he would grow into and take the opportunity of like hey um i'll take a flyer on you if you'll take one on us after tom brady's decided to no longer play and i mean you want to talk about telling your kids or telling anyone in your life about opportunity knocking and busting the door down and betting on yourself. He's the king of that. He's the king of also creating, you know, something to get pissed off about.

36:26Rich Eisen:Yeah, Steve Wilkes. The Jets defensive coordinator is the one who cut him in Carolina. Okay. All right. That's fine. I mean, you know, he's the one that was playing defensive and on a scout team, which had a sub for him. That photo going around is so funny. It's got to really be, you know, adrift for him. And Steve Wilkes is the one who calls him into his office and says, yeah, we are. I'm an interim coach and it's terrible around here. But it's it's it's it's better. It's better for us that you're not here. Yeah, that that can't be good for him to hear. Then he's talking about Hassan Reddick.

37:02Rich Eisen:Former Jet.

37:03Chris Brockman:Like, OK.

37:05Rich Eisen:Hassan Reddick. He's got something against the Jets.

37:08Chris Brockman:I just think that the bounces, it's very Chiefs-y and like things are just kind of just kind of going their way right now. And you're like, oh, this could be a team. Was it Chris Long said he liked them in the Super Bowl this year?

37:17Rich Eisen:And Bucky Irving's playing his head off. Yeah. I can't sit here and deny that they're not a – I mean, if I say this is a proper reaction, that means that I think that they are a team of destiny or you're saying they have – like if you had to look around and say who feels like destined based on the play. It feels like Tampa so far. Got it. Because one team's already defending a Super Bowl championship. They feel inevitable. Right. Which could be destined. The Chargers also have that feel.

37:45Chris Brockman:The Chargers have a little bit of that. A little bit. They got a lot of it. Not a little. They got the MVP if you want to go back.

37:51Rich Eisen:Okay. Okay. Topic two. Look at you going full circle. But all right. Well, Phil, I'll finish by giving you one.

37:57Chris Brockman:Thanks, bud.

37:57Rich Eisen:There you go. That wraps it up for this edition of Overreaction Monday. If you're listening to it on the actual day of the Monday we're overreacting to. Thank you. Ethan Hawke is in studio on the flagship show. Others to appear on the flagship show this week. We got a full house this week. Kevin Pollack's going to finish up the week. So it starts with Ethan Hawke and one of our favorites, Kevin Pollack, will be in studio every single day, 12 to 3 Eastern time on Disney Plus, the ESPN app everywhere, ESPN Radio and Sirius XM, wherever you get your podcasts. No Contest Wrestling, O'Shea Jackson Jr.

38:29Rich Eisen:and TJ Jefferson hosted Road to Wrestlepalooza in Indianapolis, a two-hour pre-PLE program. So they're going to have a lot to talk about on No Contest Wrestling this week as well. Good job, Christopher. Thanks. For Chris, I'm Rich. Peace out, everybody.