No-Contest Wrestling: Kali Armstrong and Naomi

30:53We've been following each other on Twitter. Exactly. And you're going to do me like that? Like, I was the one who's been putting her in her Instagram stories all the time. And now she's going to. TJ, please. We're doing an interview. Anyway, I'm hurt. I'm hurt is all I'm saying. Now, Kelly, you know, you talked about, you know, the move that you had to do. and you've been in L.A., born and raised, but you've also been around the world in I, I, I. You've been to Mexico, Brazil, Greece, Indonesia, Dubai. So you are well-traveled. Of all the places you've been, which place has stuck to you the most and why you think that is?

31:28To be honest, Greece was amazing. So we went to Athens, we went to Mykonos, we went to Santorini, and they all offered different things. But what was so fun about Greece was that we went to different restaurants, different bars, and literally everybody was dancing. Like, I feel like here in the States, if you go to clubs and stuff, people are on the wall or just looking at everyone else. Too cool for school. When I tell you out there, everybody was dancing. Rather, you're old, tall, short. They were standing on dinner tables. There's a tradition in Greece where they have, like, the plates and they break it and they dance.

32:05They gave us all plates and we were throwing it on the ground and just dancing on it. Like it was just so much fun. So carefree. You didn't have to worry about who's looking at me dance because they dancing too. It was just so much fun to where everybody was just enjoying life together. So in October of 23, you got signed with WWE and you started off in NXT. When did the move to Evolve come and how did they sell you on this? yeah so evolve was a brand that was around a long time ago but it collapsed and they this is the revamp of it so as soon as they revamped it they let us all know hey we got this new show they had a bunch of us join it and i was super excited because i'm like this is a great opportunity to get my name out there to get some more reps because a lot of times i feel like it could be tough joining nxt when you don't have a name you know no one wants to come out in the crowd's like who's this person you know you know so now once I do join NXT they will know who I am because they have seen me before so I feel like it's a a great pathway to getting to the next level and and how and how did it feel when when you found out that that that title that's sitting there to your left I believe we're backwards but I believe it's to your left when did you find that out and what did it feel like to hear that you're going to be the first champion Yeah, it was surreal to me because we knew for maybe a month or so that there was going to be a championship.

33:39And then leading up to that, I found out that I was going to be a part of the championship along with three other girls. And I didn't find out till the day before that I was going to be the champion. I was like, what? little girl from england california who moved out here by herself knew nothing about this is about to be a champion and hold the whole weight of the division on her shoulders like it was so surreal but i was so excited and ecstatic and honored to hold this title can we see that can we can we see the belt real quick absolutely this is honestly in my opinion one of the best titles.

34:19It really is. That's a beautiful... In the entire WWE. The first one. We always remember the first one. You know, you remember the first Intercontinental champion was Pat Patterson. The first world champion was Buddy Rogers. You know, and the first Evolve women's champion. Kelly Armstrong. That's pretty dope. My name is in the history books. I'm making history. Now, what how do I word this, TJ? Because, you know, the whole point of this, Callie, is we see superstars with amazing potential and we wanted to make sure that Evolve got its shine. You know, we, in the beginning of our pod, we were like the NXT hub for a long time.

35:05Everybody. So we love bigging up people. So I would say, why should people tune in to Evolve? And also, I want to know some of your dream matches that you want to do because I talked about Bianca Belair. I would love to see that. Jordan Grace low-key gave you one the other night. I'm going to need to see some get back with that as well. I'm going to need to see that too. So, you know, why should people tune in to Evolve and what are some dream matches that Kelly Armstrong has for herself? People should tune in to Evolve because Evolve got some dogs. I'm Kelly Armstrong. I'm the champ. I'm strong.

35:45I'm dominant. But Evolve got some dogs. There's some people on there that they say NXT just has the best women division ever. But there's a whole other subdivision of NXT, which is Evolve. They got some dogs. We got some talent. It's just so stacked that we can't all make it to NXT at the same time. But Evolve has amazing talent. We have awesome storylines. So it's definitely something that people should put on their radar to watch because we coming. and I promise you, once we get into NXT, it ain't no turning back. I don't want y 'all to oh, I did not. I'm telling you right now, get on the train, because once that train leave, I'm out of there.

36:24Now, Oya, you got any dream matches? A dream match would be I would love it to be a tag between myself, Bianca, Naomi, and Jade. Oh, yeah. I feel like that tag could be amazing. Here's some money. Take my money now. Take my money now. I'm there. I'm there. Front row. The green shirt guy got to go for that match. We're taking his seat. We got to find him too, by the way. I feel like that would go very hard. Now, got to hit you with the no contest wrestling. Top questions. Our top question, bro. It's our favorite. Now, for sure. Now, you on the beach. Chilling. In Greece. So wherever you want it to be.

37:13Make a nose. And, you know, it might be about 50 ladies in there who don't rock with Callie Armstrong. Yeah. Okay. And so they're from the Midwest. They don't like California. Yeah, exactly. They're talking mess. They think we all avocado toast. So I need you to pick a team of you and four other superstars to make sure you get into the car. Four other superstars. And Callie, you can pick them from any moment. yeah any women okay any era okay i say first i'm gonna go with naomi okay here she on a run right now they only gonna cuss them suckers out all right you get your raggedy tail okay so she gonna scare away a good half of them just from talking mess okay then i'm gonna have to put bianca in there absolutely 50 women that's a lot she's gonna Take that braid and she going to whip about 10 at a time.

38:13It's all about making the best out of our moments. So Naomi got half of them out with the words. Bianca got the other 1%, 2%, however many with her braid. Then we going to go jazz. Oh, yeah. Me and jazz going to be jabbing it up. We going to be back to back jabbing them. Boom, boom. We got up all that. Boom. And I say to finish them off, we're going to have to get Shayna Baszler. Oh, man, that's a solid pick. And then she putting them to sleep. I'm driving them. She putting them to sleep. They don't be cussing them out. Y 'all going to bring them away. Me and Dad's driving them. Pop, pop. And Shayna put them to sleep.

38:56Put them to sleep. That's a solid mean team right there. Yeah, solid mean team. Y 'all was getting back to the hotel without a problem. Yeah. With that part. This might be the third or fourth. I think third. time shannon basler has been picked but why wouldn't she yeah she was in the first one our very first episode cm punk picked her yeah cm punk was like shannon basler right right i wanted to pick a well-rounded group yeah and you did that you did that yeah now callie we got it we got a time machine we got a no contest wrestling time machine right okay we're gonna let you borrow it so you're gonna be able to go to any point in time and you're going to pick up five women that you can main event WrestleMania with which women from any era, from any time would you love to see yourself in the ring against in the biggest stage of them all at WrestleMania?

39:53Okay. Going back, I have to have the jazz and the Jacqueline. I feel like those two were the trailblazers. You know, they started this thing off. They showed us the path, the way. So I got to go with those two. Jazza Miss Jackie, no doubt. And I got to go with the current three that I want to do the tag with. Bianca, Naomi, and Jade. I feel like it's no bigger, better people in wrestling right now. And I feel like you could put those three up against anybody in any time zone. They're all doing big things. And I feel like I'd love to be a part of them in the biggest moment ever. That's what's up.

40:30Absolutely. Well, I mean, I think we out of time on this one. Might be. But, you know, me and TJ, when we set out to do this podcast, the thing that we wanted to do is not only give superstars an avenue to promote what's coming up, but to show who they are, to get fans to connect with them a little bit more because relatability is likability. No doubt. And you shine in this interview, man. If there's any reason to watch Evolve is to watch Kelly Armstrong. strong. We're rooting for you and you always got a home at No Contest Wrestling. I appreciate y 'all so much. You guys are awesome. Appreciate it.

41:11Before you go, Callie, one last thing. Give me the top three stars that Englewood has produced, in your opinion. Oh, man. We gotta go with the Paul Pierce. Okay. Celtic.

41:27We gotta go with the Rajon Rondo. Okay. we gotta go with the Cali Armstrong that's what's up you know why I didn't say Celtic for Rajon Rondo because he played for the Lakers because he won with the Lakers you were in self-reporting he won 2020 with the Lakers baby well anyway Cali we wish you the best like O'Shea said our home is your home we'll leave a key under the map for you we're right now Segundo so you know where we're at and we're wishing nothing but the best for you man I can't wait to watch you continue to evolve on this journey. I see what you did there. By the way, Evolve is on Wednesdays on Tubi.

42:12For those who don't know, check them out, man. All the episodes are there on Tubi as well. The champ is here. Check out Evolve. The champ is here. Thank you so much. Thank you, y 'all. I appreciate y 'all. How about that, man? Man, I love when I get to do Laker propaganda on the wrestling show. What a rare opportunity. Glad you love it. I mean, I even know she was watching when she saw the UCLA shoes around my neck. That was crazy. That was wild. But they were, you know, they were there. That was crazy, man. Shout out to the Bruins. You probably put them on your bumper when you drive home today.

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43:22For over 28 years, they've helped fund pediatric cancer research, raising more than$303 million and supporting over 40 ,000 children. Learn more and donate at HyundaiUSA.com backslash Hope on Wheels. Well, you know, it's funny. It's actually Callie kind of gave us a segue because she talked about someone she wanted on her bar fight crew. And it just so happens that we're going to tag team those people up today, O'Shea. Yes, sir, man. Our interview with Naomi that we've been holding. I think right now is a perfect time to get into that. It was a few weeks ago, but guess what? People love Naomi.

43:55They want to see it. We're getting threats that we better show it. And we don't want Naomi on us. No, no, no. Absolutely not. And that's the thing about the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. We are for the people. And we got to give the people what they want. Got to give the people, give the people what they want. So without further ado, here's that Naomi interview. Ladies and gentlemen, our next guest setting the WWE on fire in and out of the ring and Twitter too that's what I'm saying in and out of the ring not since Beyonce dropped lemonade have we seen a black woman going on a revenge tour like this this lady is a two time WWE women's tag team champion a two time women's Smackdown champion she's the first black superstar to win a world title at WrestleMania, which is a crazy fact.

44:52That's a crazy statement. Yeah, that's crazy. She even took her talents to the NBA at one point. Now, and make sure you watch your mouth because this Funkadactyl will funk you right on up. All right, so make sure you proceed with caution. Ladies and gentlemen, Mrs. Money in the Bank, Naomi, welcome to the five. Yes, indeed. Yes. Great intro, guys. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be trying to work on them. You know, we're going hard for my intro. A great intro for a greater talent. Come on now. Come on now. We got a piece of history with us. We're looking at it. You said it. You said it. How are you doing today?

45:30Good. Just on a little road trip, you know. Might be pulling up somewhere. You never know where. Now, when you say where, I mean, could this be someone's house if they're not home? Someone's parents' crib? Well, in there, done that. I don't know. It could be NXT. It could be TNA. It could be Raw. I don't know. Raw. When they like to know. So ain't nobody safe is what you say. Nobody. Now, you know, you've said a lot of historical marks throughout this career. And, you know, during your intro, I said you even took your talents to the NBA at a point. Can you let us know a little bit in the beginning, when did you get bit by the wrestling bug?

46:23When did you set yourself on this path to be the historical superstar that you are? I got bit by the wrestling bug in 2009. At the time, I was an NBA dancer, Orlando Magic cheerleader. and just through word of mouth heard about WWE looking for more minorities particularly women and I heard that and I showed up to audition and they've been here ever since just want to try out not audition it's called a try out right right right dancers have auditions I'm glad she went but before you get to your question TJ TJ, I just want to point out, in 2009, the Los Angeles Lakers beat the Orlando Magic to win the NBA championship.

47:14I just want to remind you, Clipper fan, TJ, that the Lakers won that year. Now, continue. Naomi's here, bro. That was such nasty work. You know, we went to that game. We got to fly to LA and be there. And I was hoping. I thought. I was hoping, too. I don't know why I thought, but I thought, you know, we could have did it. I know. I went out and bought a Grand Hill jersey that didn't even play for Orlando anymore because I don't like the Lakers. And so I feel he reads your Twitters, right? He reads your tweets. I don't know why he would say that to you. Like, I think your Twitters go out to get some nasty work from Naomi.

47:53First of all, Naomi got the best Twitter in the world. I could have had her championship ring. Oh, my bad. So why would you bring that up there? Because you don't have a championship ring. That's why I brought it up. Wow. All right. Yeah, dancers get rings. When the team win, the dancers get rings also. So I could have had one. In a little bit, you're going to get something that's a little better than the ring. It's got a leather strap around it. I mean, I'm going to get me a Hall of Fame ring. I'm going to get me some championships. At this point, this era, it's all about the legacy and accolades at this point.

48:28Right, right. So, you know, I always feel like, you know, when you have a great story, it kind of starts at the beginning. So I'm not sure if she's frozen a little bit right now. There she is. So let us know about Little Trend. What was it like for you growing up as a youngster? I had a great upbringing. Very, very humble. Big family. I come from a huge family and a lot of love, very hardworking, a lot of strong women. And yeah, nothing, nothing crazy about my upbringing. I had a very good upbringing. Athletically, what like what were you into as a young kid? So one summer I went with to visit my dad and my dad put me in piano classes.

49:22he put me in dance classes he put me in acting classes he just you know he wanted me to be productive and not sit around for the summer and that's when I first fell in love with the arts and I was around like eight years old and so when I went back with my mom um the one that I I really clung to which I hate to this day that I didn't stay with piano because I come from a family of musicians. My dad's a musician. My dad plays just about every instrument. My uncle is George McRae, who is one of the greatest R &B soul singers from back in the day, topped the Billboard charts in the 70s. And I love the piano and I want to learn how to play the guitar.

50:13But anyway, the one that I stuck with was dance. And then from the age of eight, I went back, my mom put me in dance and I I competed from 8 to 18 in tap, jazz, ballet, lyrical, modern, hip-hop. Thought I was going to graduate, go to New York, go to Alvin Ailey, and then I wanted to do Broadway. But didn't go that way. I ended up staying home, auditioning for Magic, and then found wrestling. So here we are. I mean, I wish you would have piano under your belt, but I'm not going to act like I'm mad that you picked wrestling, right? I got wrestling instead of piano. Yep. All right, all right. Now, you know, like you said, you chose wrestling.

50:57And something that we'd like to ask here on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast, DJ, is what was your welcome to wrestling moment where you were like, all right, yeah, this is what I chose. This is what I got to do every day now. I think that first time when you take a bump for the first time, like they they tell you and try to train you how to do it but you do it wrong a million times before you get it right but just that that initial jolt and shock to your body being hit like that um it it definitely takes a lot to get used to and um that's definitely one of those things that can make and break you right there in that moment because they don't feel good you're sore for weeks after, you know, your first, when you first get into it in training, you got bruises and bumps everywhere.

51:52And it's such like a culture shock, just the whole taking in all the information of it. If you're not familiar with wrestling, which I wasn't, I had no experience, didn't know much about it. Then the big names, you know, Rob Hogan, my father-in-law, but that was about the extent of it that I knew about. So yeah, it was a life changing experience for sure. Now, something like that is quick to that's really a make or break moment. I'm pretty sure your first bump will make a lot of people leave. Your first bump, last bump. Yeah, exactly. You know what? Nah, we'll go behind the desk. I've seen that happen.

52:41I've seen that happen a lot. So who would you say is someone that without them, we wouldn't have the Naomi sitting in front of us? I definitely say Dr. Tom Desmond. Those are the trainers who were at the core of my development at that time. And I still, yes, Dr. Tom Pritchard. Yep. He was the head coach in FCW at that time. And I still apply to things that I learned from them and that they taught me to this day. And they all really believed in me. And I think a lot of times when I doubted myself, they kept me in it. and then meeting my husband as well, obviously. Jimmy John. Big Jim, Jimmy John.

53:35Big Jimmy!

53:38So in 2009, you did sign with WWE and you went to Florida Championship Wrestling, as you said, and you became the inaugural FCW Divas Champion. What was it like down there during that time? Who were you working with? Who was down there getting their start along with you? It was so different. It was less than 10 of us in the women's roster, on the roster at that time. Who was incredible at that time was AJ Lee. And she was really the only one that really knew. She was definitely the most advanced and really knew wrestling, the ins and outs of it at that time. A lot of us came in with no experience or from, you know, a dance background or modeling background or, you know, just other aspects of entertainment.

54:29Because, again, it was the D.Va era and that's what they were looking for at the time. But we had girls like Liviano, we had Oksana, we had Jamie Keys. And then the main girls would come down also during that time. So I got to meet Natty and, you know, do things with Alicia Fox and stuff before I even came back on the main roster. But the division was very small and nowhere near what it is now. But it was so cool because I feel like we were able to get so much more one on one time in coaching that really helped us to succeed a lot quicker during that time. now you have you you tied natalia for most money in the bank matches can you let us know you know us mere mortals tj what it's like going into a match with so much going on and how do you even really prepare right for a money in the bank match you've got the most experience of anyone on the women's roster and you won one so like what goes into your mindset of like all right you know you know you got to put on a show and you know you got others all the things that you got to look out for let us know the thought process of a money in the bank match i think the key to going into a money in a bank match is um just trying to beat that fear fight that fear and go in fearless.

56:08Because if you go in scared, you go in weary of anything, you go in afraid of the ladders, it's going to show. And those type of matches, you can't really prepare for them. There's so many girls, so many ladders, stuff being thrown at you every which way. So yeah, I just think it's one of those matches where you just got to go in and balls to the wall and not be scared. It's like an actor with improv. You just gotta be ready for whatever is thrown at you. And you gotta take risk. You gotta be willing to take risk. I was about to say that. Yeah, because she's a spot stealer in those... When you know Naomi's in, it's gonna be a spot.

56:55Just like an actor, you've gotta trust that if you're doing improv, you've gotta trust your partner, right? These performers put their lives on the Yeah, I'm not trusting Gerard Butler with my life, though. Well, that's because Gerard Butler beat you up the first movie. So if you haven't seen it. I would trust Gladiator Gerard Butler. Oh, yeah. This is Sparta. I'd follow him anywhere. Okay. All right. Well, so in 2010, you competed in the all-female third season of NXT. T. You finished in second place. I think that some of them need to recount those votes is what I think. I'm offended. I'm offended.

57:40I can't. And I'm ashamed I even brought that up to you. But that led to your main roster debut with a group called The Funkadactyls. Talk to us about you and Cameron and that period of time where the majority of us got our first exposure to you. It was such a fun time. And I'm glad that I was able to come in that way because it allowed me to learn so much about the business, what it's like being on the road that first year without so much pressure on me. Whereas if I would have came in, you know, as a single star, I love the support that I had with Cameron. We still talk and keep in touch and are close to this day.

58:30And it's definitely one of the highlights of my career. Like that was a really, really fun time and special time. And also for the first time to really have this duo of two Black females was just something different and new at that time. And it was a lot of fun. And I learned a lot through that faction and that that prepared me, I think, for when I later became on my own. And in that solo career, you know, you, like we said in the beginning of the show, you're a history maker. You know, can you tell us about what it felt like when you did win the SmackDown Women's Championship? What did it feel like with going back home or to the hotel, wherever you were?

59:23You laid your head on the pillow as world champion. What did that feel like? Like, you know, did you love wrestling before? I don't know how you got there, but the journey, how did it feel to be on top of the world that night? To be honest, it was such a, those days are so stressful and so busy and so chaotic. And you're just, for me, you have the nerves. They're good nerves, but, you know, you just want everything to go well. And then me, I overthink sometimes. And like, so everything kind of went and happened and I really didn't take it all in until after. And I was like, wow, this is cool. This is incredible.

1:00:10Like I didn't, wasn't for sure if it was going to happen because I won a championship and I got injured and then I had to relinquish it. So I didn't even wasn't sure. And I was prepared if that moment didn't happen. But to push through all of that and. To be trusted with that responsibility and with that moment and to be given that, it said so much to me about. where I was with the company, what they thought of me, and what I had worked for. It all paid off, and it was all worth it. The ups, the downs, how long it took, all of it was worth it in that moment, that day. Did that. Did that. Did that.

1:00:59I guess we'll move ahead a little bit. They talk about women who helped, you know, pave the way for other women. and doing things to bring a spotlight to you women, which led us to Total Divas. This is going to be my next question. You're so good, TJ. You're so good. I spent way too much time thinking about it. Total Divas, right? Let's talk about it. The memories you have. It seemed like you had a blast. It seemed like you and Renee were probably my favorite two pairing because you two seem to be having more fun together than anyone else. I can remember at one point you guys were like messing around in the pool and Lana was trying to sleep and she came out and Renee's like talking trash.

1:01:50Like, sorry, we can't hear you after over all our fun. How much fun was Total Divas? Like, just give us the dirt. Maybe not even the dirt, but how was it? But yeah, the dirt. We want the dirt. It was so much fun. And the crazy thing is, at that time, it didn't feel or seem like a big deal. Just it worked the way the show was viewed and like what was happening at the time. We was just going through life and cameras just happened to be there filming it, you know. But now looking back 10 years later, I see how big the impact was. Now when new girls are coming in, they're like, oh, my God, I want to start wrestling because of you, because of Total Divas.

1:02:32I watch you. You are my favorite. I'm just like, wow. Like, man, that's really cool to hear. It also reminds me of how old I am now. Oh, no. Listen. I love it. 26 ain't old. What are you talking about? Oh, no, that's what I'm talking about. My bad. 25. I knew you had a birthday coming up, so I was. But I love the show. I love all the girls. Of course, there were moments of drama. um but what do you expect when we're traveling on the road three 200 300 260 300 some days out of the year with each other but um there's always love and respect and i think it just made us even closer and bonded for life and um i love that so much of our our life was was captured and documented like i'll see stuff pop up on my feed now that happened with me and john or like when we were earlier in our relationship.

1:03:37And I was like, oh, I'm so glad. Like, my kids can look back and see this now. I'll bet your mother. It's just really, really cool. What a great experience. And I hope we get to do it again to some degree because there's so much that's happened in all of our lives. And I think Total Divas just still has such a strong fan base who want to see it again, even with the newer talent. So I just thought it was such a positive brand. It was something so great that happened to women's wrestling because people outside of the wrestling world were now interested or had never knew about this or inspiring athletes who never even thought about wrestling because of that show.

1:04:23Now they do. Do you remember how it got pitched to you?

1:04:29um yeah t talent relations at the time um we heard about there was doing a show but we didn't know the capacity and it was kind of just like there was certain people um that they they picked for the show but everyone was picked for a reason and i think it really worked for me camera and they wanted us because we were we were new at the time we were a team and we brought diversity and it was almost just like a given for us to be on there and they asked us about it we both were like sure yeah not understanding and knowing anything about what goes into taping a reality show but um we were all on board for it for sure because we kind of understood the importance of women having this opportunity in wrestling.

1:05:24I know. I know. I know. What a terrible time for an interview to cut off. We get it. Trust us. We have been hurting about this for quite some time. But yeah, I mean, that's what we have so far. And Naomi's always welcome back. Oh, well, she knows. Even if she wasn't, She just helped let herself in. Like, we are welcoming her back, but if for some reason we didn't, she'd come whenever she wanted to. Man, she might be in the parking lot. You know, that's how all this started. Right? She's doing amazing work right now. Doing great. And the beginning of her run, man, you know, just the people she's getting to go against and go over, and now she's got Stephanie Viqueira in Paris.

1:06:09How do you think that's going to go? I don't know, but we got some time to talk about that. We should break that match down. Bro, man. I don't know, man. I don't know. I need to see the rules. If there's a DQ rule, I mean, that's the way I'd go, bro. I don't know, man, but I'm looking forward to it. I can tell you that much. I'm going to be in front of the TV ready to go to see the Devil's Kiss against Naomi. Yeah, bro. The Devil's Kiss versus the rear end. Let me tell you. shout out to big Jim Jimmy God bless you you're the man so like we always do at this time we're going to let you know where you can find us on social media on Twitter you can find us at There's No Contest on Instagram we're at the No Contest Wrestling Podcast on YouTube you can find us under the Rich Eisen Show banner of videos you'll find everything that we do there that was well said brother Thank you.

1:07:09And remember, that's Brother Lene. Not with a hard E-R. Because why would we do that? Because we don't do that around here. Anyway, make sure you guys have a good day. But not too good, because who the hell do you think you are? Bye, Ms. Parker. Peace.

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