No-Contest Wrestling: The Street Profits & Shiloh Hill

18 Aug 2025 · 1 h 49 min · 44 chapters

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In short

No Contest Wrestling interviews WWE tag team champions The Street Profits (Montez Ford and Dawkins) about their wrestling origins, Marine fitness, forming as a team, the “Street Profits” name, chaotic favorite spots (including a prosthetic-leg spear and a SummerSlam ladder mishap), frustration about missing WrestleMania, and personal stories involving Bianca Belair and Mark Henry. They also hype an upcoming Bengals vs. Bears game (Nov 2, 2025) and do a “bar fight crew” tag-team fantasy.

Guests (backgrounds)

  • Montez Ford: WWE/NXT veteran; says he was recruited out of college; former Marine; claims a perfect 300 score on the Marines physical fitness test (3-mile run under ~18 minutes, 20+ dead-hang pull-ups, sit-ups).
  • Dawkins: Longtime NXT developmental performer (claims longest record at ~7.5 years); describes being recruited/trying out in 2013 and 2014; grew up watching The Godfather and his entourage.

Key claims

  • Street Profits formed after Kevin Owens and later Triple H suggested them as a tag team; name came from Triple H choosing “Street Profits” after other name ideas failed.
  • They weren’t on the WrestleMania card, and they used the TLC match on SmackDown as a “reminder” to stay undeniable.
  • Montez says he had to get Mark Henry’s approval for dating Bianca Belair; he describes Bianca as the first person he “shot his shot” with after a sushi outing.

Notable examples

  • TLC spot: Dawkins uses a fan’s prosthetic leg; Montez describes the chaos as unplanned.
  • SummerSlam: Wyatt Six member Joe missed a ladder flip, then they retrieved him and did it anyway.
  • Barcelona suit moment: Montez wore a Real Madrid kit under a suit while meeting/being seen around a Barcelona rivalry context.

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Introducing The Street Profits

1:02 to 1:47

The hosts introduce the guests, The Street Profits, and their achievements.

“are one of the most exciting tag teams that we've seen in the WWE in quite some time.”

Wrestling Origin Stories

1:47 to 2:56

The Street Profits share their journeys into wrestling and defining moments.

“because it's questions that we are dying to know from every wrestler we talk to.”

Military Background and Fitness

2:56 to 4:47

Discussion about Tez's Marine background and fitness challenges.

“You told such a very passionate story about your wrestling bug, man.”

Tag Team Championship Victory

4:47 to 6:38

The Street Profits reflect on winning their first tag team championship.

“To get 100%, you have to run three miles in less than, like, 18 minutes.”

The Formation of The Street Profits

6:38 to 7:59

The story behind how The Street Profits became a tag team.

“Once we go in them titles, our pockets got bigger.”

The Meaning of The Street Profits

7:59 to 12:44

Discussion on the name 'Street Profits' and its significance.

“For those who don't know, what's the story of the Street Profits coming together?”

Memorable Matches and Moments

12:44 to 14:00

The Street Profits discuss their most memorable moments in the ring.

“Now, you guys have had some pretty wild spots.”

Unplanned Moments in Wrestling

14:00 to 17:19

Learn about the chaotic and unpredictable nature of wrestling matches.

“I'm like, no way this dude is telling me to use his leg.”

Frustrations of Not Making WrestleMania

17:20 to 19:34

Discover the emotional impact of not being on the WrestleMania card.

“But I also looked at it as the essence of, like, you know, like, you know, maybe maybe we do need to go out there and, like, remind these people exactly who we are.”

Turning Negatives into Positives

19:35 to 20:46

How to maintain a positive outlook in the face of disappointment.

“All of us had big-ass chips on our shoulders that week.”
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The Importance of WrestleMania

20:47 to 22:07

Understand why WrestleMania is seen as the pinnacle of wrestling careers.

“So I get they're saying it was business, but given the answers, you can come out and say it.”

Travel Experiences in Wrestling

22:08 to 24:27

Insights into the travel experiences of wrestlers and the challenges they face.

“Like, you know, I'm not I feel like everybody that's dreamed about doing this or love doing this, like they want to be on WrestleMania.”

Mark Henry's Dating Advice

28:13 to 31:51

Discover the story behind Montez and Bianca's relationship as Montez shares his experiences with Mark Henry's advice about dating in wrestling.

“I guess maybe we'll get people brought up to where that came from.”

First Encounter and Connection

31:52 to 34:18

Montez recounts the first time he met Bianca and how their relationship developed from that point onward.

“Since it is Bianca Belair and since we are on record, Tez, early on in our podcast, Shay and I had to talk and I was like, you know what, I don't care what happens.”

Bianca Joins the Conversation

34:19 to 36:02

Bianca Belair joins the podcast, offering her perspective on her relationship with Montez and playful banter ensues.

“not giving her no play the whole time though because i was just trying to make sure this is what she wanted you know like she was like she was trying to talk to me she was trying to sit beside me in movie theaters.”

Upcoming Bengals vs Bears Game

36:03 to 40:07

The hosts discuss the anticipation for the upcoming Bengals versus Bears game, filled with friendly rivalry and humor.

“My mama taught me if I got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing.”

NFL Game Reflections

42:00 to 42:46

Discussion about a recent NFL game involving the Bears and the Commanders.

“we gonna come right back on here specifically to talk about that game We're going to come back on the podcast to specifically talk about that game.”

College Rivalries and Personal Stories

42:46 to 45:02

A lighthearted discussion about college football rivalries, particularly Michigan vs. Ohio State.

“Hey, look, bro, don't even worry about Thanksgiving.”

Seth Rollins' Dinner and Injury

45:02 to 48:18

An account of a dinner with Seth Rollins and reflections on his injury and performance.

“He had to go above and beyond to illegal measures to get the dub.”

Bar Fight Team Draft

48:18 to 51:18

The guests draft their ideal bar fight teams from wrestling superstars of any era.

“Like I was out that night and like, you know, ask how he was doing, but didn't go into deep, you know, full detail about his knee.”

Tag Team Time Machine

51:18 to 56:00

A fun segment where the guests choose five tag teams to face in a WrestleMania main event.

“Otis is definitely cracking my line up, bro.”

The Legacy of Tag Teams

56:00 to 59:00

Exploration of tag team wrestling dynamics and memorable moments.

“I thought it was going to be DX, but he went above and beyond.”

The Strength of the Street Profits

59:00 to 1:03:00

Discussion on the unity and success of the Street Profits as a tag team.

“I don't know why, but they want to see a singles run out of the two of you.”

Street Profits' Future

1:03:00 to 1:03:15

The Street Profits discuss rumors of a breakup and their commitment to being a tag team.

“They say Street Profits are breaking up next week on Street Profits.”

Shiloh Hill's Journey and Philosophy

1:05:13 to 1:10:00

Shiloh shares his background, wrestling career, and unique name origins.

“That tooth, when it was on the side of the ring, I was like, oh, no, this dude's wild.”

The Journey to Professional Wrestling

1:10:00 to 1:11:53

Learn about the speaker's transition from college football to wrestling and the emotional connection to their father's memory.

“And it was always fun to go down there and do what we do.”

Overcoming Challenges in Football

1:11:53 to 1:14:41

Hear about the speaker's early challenges in football and how they navigated through the learning curve to success.

“And so I signed the NIL program and everything.”

NIL Opportunities and Social Media

1:14:41 to 1:17:54

Discover how the speaker leveraged social media for NIL opportunities and built their brand.

“And that's just one of those perfect right place, right time moments that you just can't ignore.”

Mentorship from The Undertaker

1:17:54 to 1:20:23

Explore the speaker's relationship with The Undertaker and the insights gained from such a legendary figure.

“But you were smart enough to knew where the game was going man and you positioned yourself You did say you were a fan growing up.”

Wrestling Heartbreaks and Fan Moments

1:20:23 to 1:24:00

Reflect on the emotional moments in wrestling, including the end of The Undertaker's streak and its impact on fans.

“Like he's a guy I look up to a lot now and just a mentor I feel really fortunate to have kind of in my court.”

Reflections on a Shocking Moment in Wrestling

1:24:00 to 1:25:09

The guests discuss a pivotal moment in wrestling that evoked strong emotions.

“I mean, I guess that's the whole point of wrestling is to feel something.”

Dream Matches and Match Types

1:25:10 to 1:26:49

Exploration of dream opponents and desired match types in wrestling.

“Gunther's a big one for me, and it was really cool to be able to wrestle for him on season, like in front of him on season one.”

Experiences and Inspirations from Live Wrestling

1:26:50 to 1:27:57

Discussing memorable live wrestling experiences and their impact.

“And that match sticks in my head as one of the coolest matches I've seen in person early on.”

Exploring the Dark Web and Its Fascination

1:27:58 to 1:29:19

A deep dive into the dark web, its implications, and personal experiences.

“They were being housed in like cybersecurity forums on the dark web.”

Uncovering Strange Items from the Dark Web

1:29:20 to 1:31:34

Revealing unusual finds from the dark web and their stories.

“You found a couple pair of boots, right?”

Navigating Fame and Community in Wrestling

1:31:35 to 1:33:06

Discussing the challenges and joys of building a wrestling persona and community.

“The leeches, I was like, all right, this is enough, dude.”

The Journey of Becoming a WWE Superstar

1:33:07 to 1:35:28

Insights into the process of becoming a WWE superstar and personal growth.

“but we've also seen you hit that switch yeah where like you don't want to mess with that savage the The man loves physicality.”

Building Relationships and Teamwork in Wrestling

1:35:29 to 1:38:00

Exploring camaraderie and teamwork among wrestlers in training.

“In terms of the hardest part, I would say probably trying to figure out how to define myself.”

The Team Dynamic and Talent Discussion

1:38:00 to 1:39:10

Explore the camaraderie and talent among wrestling peers.

“Like you can, you can really flip that any type of way you want.”

Coaches and Tough Conversations

1:39:10 to 1:40:40

Learn about the challenges of interactions with wrestling coaches.

“Do you know about Matt Bloom's football career?”

Bar Fight Strategy: Choosing Your Team

1:40:40 to 1:43:20

Shiloh Hill discusses who he'd want by his side in a bar fight.

“But I can tell you that there was a lot of times when like there was this bar in Pitt's campus and there was a guy named Reuben Brown who went on to become all pro lineman in the NFL for the Bills and a few other teams.”

Time Travel: Dream WrestleMania Matches

1:43:20 to 1:45:10

Imagining dream matches with legendary wrestlers across eras.

“Give me three wrestlers of any era that you would like to bring back and have a main event WrestleMania banger with.”

Support and Future in Wrestling

1:45:10 to 1:46:08

Discussion of Shiloh Hill's potential and future in wrestling.

“Listen man I can I'm not trying to sweat Shiloh Hill but I remember watching LFG dog and I saw you and I was just like I don't know what it is right.”

Support and Future in Wrestling

1:47:44 to 1:49:50

Discussion of Shiloh Hill's potential and future in wrestling.

“I'm just telling you, I got to go do my primary job.”
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0:35ladies and gentlemen welcome to another monday episode of the no contest wrestling podcast i am the heel that you love to hate o'shea jackson jr a.k.a petty guerrero hey yo it's me it's me it's the t-double-o that j-i-double-g two jigger tj jefferson and tj we got we got a lot to talk about today man we got we got guests we got guests man you know they folks don't want to hear us you happen. I said we get right to the guests today. Let's do it. You know, the guests that we have are one of the most exciting tag teams that we've seen in the WWE in quite some time. The athleticism, the chemistry in and out the ring.

1:10They so in tune that they favorite football teams even got the same initials. Well, they are four-time tag team champions off the main roster and NXT. They are the smoke bringer synonymous with the solo cups. Ladies and gentlemen, the street profits are on their contest. What's good? What's good? What a treat. What a treat. We've been wanting these cats for a minute since we kicked this whole thing off. Street Profits was on the list. We appreciate y 'all having us. Making the time. Thank you for having us. Are you kidding? Absolutely, man. Now, we got a couple of questions that we ask everybody who's on for the first time on No Contest because it's questions that we are dying to know from every wrestler we talk to.

1:52So I need to know from both of y 'all, when did you get bit by that wrestling bug? and can y 'all tell me y 'all welcome to wrestling moment the moment where you were like, all right, yeah, this is what I'm doing for the rest of my life. Shoot. Wrestling bug. I mean, I say I caught it when I got recruited out of college. Yeah, I recruited, tried out, and then it was just one of those things where I got tired of doing homework and this provided me the opportunity to get out of school and stop doing homework. That was when I caught the wrestling bug there. and then my welcome wrestling moment. Man, you know what?

2:30I got to say the first time I went outside the country, it was Download Festival 2016. We went there and there for 10 days for the European tour, and it was the dopest thing I've ever seen in my life. And it was just like, oh, I get to do this, and I've been doing this ever since. I mean, that's beautiful, dogs. How am I supposed to follow that up, man? You told such a very passionate story about your wrestling bug, man. No, but I think I caught the wrestling bug when I was probably like maybe like eight years old. And I always tell everybody, the Godfather was the first person I actually seen when I was watching the wrestling.

3:12I was flipping through the channels, and I seen this cat with like these bright green pants on, his purple vest and everything, and I'm seeing all these different color signs in the crowd. And, you know, back then, Godfather had an entourage with him. He sure did. He had an entourage with him. And it was a party. So, like, his entourage would accompany him to the ring. Like, he'd go do his thing, and then they would go leave out. And I thought it was the craziest thing ever. And that's, like, what, like, really first, like, drawn me in. Like, just seeing, like, a cool environment like that. But my first welcome to wrestling moment would probably have to be, man, I remember when we first won the tag team championships in Barclays.

3:56Barclays was kind of like, like we was already doing a lot of stuff before then, but I feel like that was the first time we did something on like, you know, the main roster or the grand scheme of things. And, you know, it was a new building and it was like literally the same year that, you know, COVID took off. But like, it was like the first, like main plateau me and Dawgs did together. So I thought that was cool. You know, and then the crowd just, you know, Barclays crowd is always, man. It's wild. That's what's up. Now, Tez, specifically, now you're a former. And is it former? Once a Marine, always a Marine, I'm assuming.

4:28Right, right, right. So, yeah, in case they had to call me in, I'm still fully trained. Now, I saw that you accumulated a perfect 300 score in the Marines physical fitness test. I got to imagine that's not really easy to do. So, can you tell us a little bit about what that test entailed? Oh, so every year the Marines run a performance fitness test, and you have to run three miles. To get 100%, you have to run three miles in less than, like, 18 minutes. I used to, like, hit mine, like, around at least, like, in the 16, 16 and a halfs. To get 100 % on pull-ups, you have to do, like, more than, like, 20 dead hang ones, and then you have to hit, like, a certain amount of sit-ups in a certain period of time.

5:11And so just every year I would just max out on everything. and I think that just came from just doing track cross country. When I was in high school that was one of the main sports I did before I graduated so I was just so used to running I just go there and I ain't trying to make it seem like it was easy but I've just been running my whole life My whole life I've been running My whole life, bruh, I've been running You can see I've just been running I just always just took pride and just staying in shape too, man. Just because even when we're wrestling, the worst thing is you out there and you get tired.

5:50I just always just didn't like being tired. Oh, I get tired. I'm a Marine though. I stay tired. I stay tired. I need some rest right now. Now, you spoke about a little bit about that first time winning on the main roster, bringing that gold in. Now, I know there's a bit of a story about how you guys became a tag team. We're going to get to that. But talk about what it felt like being a tag team that came together the way that y 'all did and winning the titles on the main. What was that like going home, head on a pillow, tag team champions of the world and a top company in the world? It was dope.

6:39I mean, shoot, bro. You know what I'm saying? Once we go in them titles, our pockets got bigger. You know what I'm saying? The pockets started getting fat. You know, the wallet. Getting a little heavy to lift. You know what I'm saying? Every time I felt like I was picking up my wallet, I was hitting a couple sets of curls along with it. That's a good thing. That pay window, man. They say that pay window is nice when you win. Yeah. What about you, Tez? That first night, finally did it on the main roster. It's just like, you know, you start reflecting back on like, Like all the miles you drove like for the NXT loops and, you know, doing the small crowds and doing like all the road shows and like getting yourself used to like the audience and them getting used to you and like, you know, the hardships.

7:25So whether you're trying to like gain weight, lose weight, you're training or just trying to just learn this craft as a whole. And you do something like that. It's not just like you celebrating winning the title, but it's like the company trusting you like, hey, you guys are the guys right now. Like we trusting y 'all to like make this tag team division like special and to put more eyes on it and like to have a good show. So it was just like not just a celebrating, but like, you know, like a resurgence of like, you know, hey, they they see us, you know, they trust us. So it's good on both ends.

7:57What's the story of y 'all? For those who don't know, what's the story of the Street Profits coming together? oh docs man we we got the same story but he it kind of it kind of really started before like i actually like came on board like sign sign you know because uh i had two tryouts i had a trial in 2013 and another one in 2014 and on the second one when they told me i was getting uh i was getting hired they took us upstairs to the promo class and that morning i swear i was like man, I thought we were doing the promos in the afternoon. So I show up in gym clothes, and Docs know I go to McDonald's in a tuxedo.

8:39I have a suit on for everything. 20-piece McNugget. So I ended up going upstairs, and they took us to the promo class where they were having a class, and Kevin Owens, and pretty much everybody that's on main roster now was in that class. And Docs was actually in that class. And I remember I was in front of the class, sitting down in my workout clothes and these damn moccasins. And I was like, fuck, man. I don't look professional at all, whatever. And then Kevin Owens looks at Docs and says, hey, Docs, he's wearing moccasins just like you. You guys would be great as a tag team. This was before anything even popped off.

9:21And then when I finally got signed, I would say maybe a year into me being signed i we you know nfc had a you know they would record their shows like like four weeks at a time like on one night and he had a match i had a match and literally right after that hunter was like hey i think they would look really good as a tag team and like like lord behold like long story short nine ten years later you know street profits you know here and you know get started and but even when I first got signed and I came on board, like, I was kicking it with Dawgs, you know, Trev, you know, Ricochet, Apollo Crews, Sammy Callahan, and, like, that was, like, our little, you know, core group.

10:03That was our, like, squad. So, like, this was all before the tag team and everything happened. So when Hunter said that, we was like, ah, man, it's gonna be easy. You know, I already know this. No, Doc, you had been in NXT a little bit longer, correct? Because I can remember you and Sawyer Fulton back in the day as a tag team. I think that was the first time I became familiar with your work. Now, when you two got together, can you tell me how the idea of the Street Profits came? Because when I first heard the name, I wasn't sure. I was like, maybe this was what you expected. I was like, wait, are they talking about profits as in money?

10:38Are they talking about profits as they're preaching the gospel? I wasn't sure. I was down for whatever. Can you tell us how that whole Street Profits came? came together. So, yes. Yes. Yes. I've been at NXT. I think I still have the longest record for NXT developmental guy. Really? And they're still. I believe so. What, seven and a half years, I want to say? So you was ranked? 2012. So, man, how the Street Profits name came about. Yeah. About that. So, they was like, hey, come up with a list of names. So, like, we were coming up with names and stuff like that. So, they ended up getting back to us and realized some of the names that they didn't get, that they gave us were none of the names that we sent.

11:33None of the names that we were sent. So, we was like, alright, cool. So, like, I guess we had to go back to the drawing board. We took that as them, like, telling us to go back to the drawing board. It was like, alright, cool. So, the Triple H comes up to us and he's like, hey, hey, there's a Street Profits. We was like, huh? He was like, yeah. Y 'all like that name, right? We was like, yeah, I guess. What about the other names? Y 'all like the other names as well? He was like, yeah, I like Street Profits. I was like, well, say no more. We're Street Profits. You're right. And then that's pretty much it.

12:13I mean, hey, but as far as the meaning of it, it's all of the above. we preach we get money yeah we tell the future hey we fulfilling prophecies out here that's what we do all right that's every week and every week we make profits man you know every match is a profit you know every day is a profit you know every you know every advancement we do is a profit you know like profits not just when it comes to like currency or anything it's like when you do something, you know, so that's kind of like how we took it. That's what's up. Now, you guys have had some pretty wild spots. Some pretty wild spots.

12:52Seeing you take a man's prosthetic leg and hit somebody with it. Doggers, you got to do the edge spot, the TLC edge spot, through a table, the spear. Talk about some of y 'all favorite moments, and please, please talk about that prosthetic leg and what it was like to do a spear off a ladder? All I tell you, go first. Go ahead, bro. Yeah, dog. So, like, that match was wild, man. And, like, I remember, like, we was just, like, you know, all of us, like, you know, we kept hearing, like, the rumblings of, like, you know, how you guys feel about, you know, not being on WrestleMania and all these other things.

13:29And, like, it's like, you know, we look at it as, like, okay, we're not on WrestleMania, but that's a chance for other guys to show, like, their showcase on WrestleMania. But best believe this match on SmackDown, like we going to come with it, you know, and that's pretty much like the mentality everybody had. And so when we was out there, we just having a blast, having fun. I remember I'm setting up the ladder to go, you know, set up the ladder so I can put this mug in the ring. And I hear this fan. He's like, yeah. I'm like, yo, Taz, use my leg. Use my leg. He's holding the leg out there. I'm like, no way this dude is telling me to use his leg.

14:03so I grabbed it hit Johnny hit Johnny in the stomach hit him in the back tossed it back to him and I wasn't even thinking when I tossed it back to him I was like man I hope he caught it and we caught it I just lost my mind it was literally like the craziest moment ever man so like yeah it's and that's the fun part about like this stuff like you can you have fun like in moments like this a chaotic match like that like it's like anything is you know legal so like And it was not planned. I mean, I kept getting tagged. A lot of times people say, man, that was a good way to plan it. I was like, man, I wish.

14:39I wish. You know why? I would have been precautious when I was using this leg because I wasn't even thinking, like, man, if this leg break, man, I got to pay for this. Hey, no, man. You know what's crazy? Like, this is how you know it wasn't planned. So I'm over there beating up Saban, right? And I just hear this loud roar. And I look over. I see across the ring, Taz with a prosthetic leg. I'm like... Did you think Zach Gowen got signed real quick and you didn't know about it? I don't know, bro. Where did he get that from? It's his leg. There's something I don't know about. Then I saw him throw it to the fan.

15:15I was like, wait, he jacked the fan's prosthetic leg? Oh, okay. All right, cool. Whatever, bro. Do your thing. It's like them old SmackDown vs. Raw games, bro. You used to be able to hit people with anything, man. Don't worry. You used to grab it from the crowd. Yep. The old PlayStation 2 games, you could use whatever you want. One of my favorite spots that just happened, SummerSlam. I forget my man's name from the Wyatt Six, but they're supposed to flip him into this ladder, right?

15:46They missed the ladder. Was it Joe or Dexter? It was Joe. It was Joe. Yeah. So they're supposed to flip him into the ladder. He missed completely. they were lined up and everything but he missed completely and they they look looked at the crowd for a minute they went and got his ass back from the outside and did it anyway yo that was funny that was hilarious i heard i heard like a little i heard like a little clip too as he missed it i'm like oh dang everybody was like everybody was like yeah all right cool What was crazy, like, he almost overshot the ladder again, too. Like, he caught, like, the top part of the ladder.

16:29Like, that would have just, like, took him to the outside. Oh, man, that's chaotic. You know, you guys, you talked about the TLC match and everything. Can you tell us, man, what was you guys' thoughts when you found out that you weren't going to be on the WrestleMania card? I know how we as fans reacted. It was a little bit of an uproar to see you guys in the tag teams not make the mania card. So when you did that TLC match, it was like, yo, we don't show y 'all. Yeah. Well, can you tell us like your feelings about that leading up to the match? Was, was that like a point of contention? Did you guys make it a point to be like, we're going to go show them?

17:09Yeah. So it's, I love that question, man. Like, like I always try to take everything that happens as a positive, right. You know, never bite the finger or anything. And first off, just seeing the love and support from the fans, like, just go so hard for us, like how, you know, vigilant they were and how upset they were. That was dope. But I also looked at it as the essence of, like, you know, like, you know, maybe maybe we do need to go out there and, like, remind these people exactly who we are. You know, maybe it does take like us being like whatever it is to make sure we're like not denied for whatever whatever reason it is.

17:44and, you know, that TLC match being, like, the first immediate and quick opportunity to do so. And not to just do it, like, one night. Keep doing it. Like, do it every Friday night. Like, you know, I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up and just, like, okay, I had this banger match. But it's like, okay, keep doing that. You know, keep bringing these bangers. Keep hitting it. And, like, you know, just seeing the love in our port of fans is one thing, but also, like, setting in a mission, like, between both of us. like, all right, man, you make sure, like, no matter what happens after this, like, we cannot be denied ever again for whatever reason.

18:20So that's why I look at it. And, you know, so, yeah, just turn yourself positive. You know, normally I wouldn't even ask this question, but because we've had WWE Unreal and now we've seen, you know, a little bit behind the curtain, I'll ask this question. Was that something that all you guys got together and kind of in the room and went, yo, we were about to steal the show tonight. Was that everybody's thought process? Yeah, I mean, like I said, it wasn't no harm, no foul. This is a business at the end of the day. And things have to happen. Things have to get on WrestleMania. There are things that are more prioritized and whatever happens.

18:58We understand that. That's the business concept. But we also took in the essence of if this is the situation, then we're going to show them exactly why it should be this way or should it be that way or should it have been the other way. And, like, also, too, like, it don't have to be just WrestleMania, you know, just the simple fact that, like, we get an opportunity to, like, go out there and, like, do our thing, whether it is WrestleMania or SmackDown, you know, we just gonna kill it, you know. So, like, but that was something that everybody collectively felt, like, you know, like, all right, man, like, we don't know what the reason it is, like, or why, but they gonna remember tonight.

19:33That was pretty much the mentality. All of us had big-ass chips on our shoulders that week. so yeah you you completely agree with it then like it was it was go time yeah go time it was definitely go time that week especially that week man like obviously like given the circumstances every the goal is always being on mania and now it's two nights so it like makes it a little bit easier to get on mania once we didn't make it to like to mania it was just like all right cool like guess we gotta go out there and uh you know send a little reminder you send them a little like hey yo street property the tag team division is here don't sleep on us we in the building so uh yeah they heard us loud and clear i guess we're on summer slam so and then everybody and everybody has a role too you gotta think about it too like some people they can't afford to watch you know wrestlemania or go see wrestlemania but they can see friday like SmackDown.

20:33So it's like, you know, also like turning to a positive where like, always turn to a positive where like, it's like, damn man, like they ain't see me for WrestleMania, but you know, they get to see me for free, you know, SmackDown, you know, or see me at SmackDown. So. So I get they're saying it was business, but given the answers, you can come out and say it. We're no contest. You can say it. Y 'all were, you were pissed that you didn't get two nights on the show. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's so like, it's so funny. It's so funny. y 'all say that, man, because I remember I did an interview earlier, I think it was last year or something, and I was talking about how frustrated I was.

21:08It's like they took it to a point where they were saying I was frustrated about my position or whatever. I've been blessed with this company for 10 years. I've been with my tag team partner my entire time. I work alongside my beautiful wife. I have nothing to complain about. But I feel like sometimes because you have all these things where everything's going well for you in your life, people don't understand that frustrations are normal. Like I remember Giannis did an interview one year and it was asking about, well, do you think this season was a failure? He said, no, we NBA champions. Like I'm frustrated because like everything don't go well all the time.

21:43And I'm allowed to feel frustrated when like me and my brother are like, you know, working our ass off and then we're not on WrestleMania. Of course I'm going to be mad. Like that's normal. Like if I sit back and go like, oh man, it's okay. Like it's like, no, it's not, it's not okay. But guess what? I'm not going to complain or bitch about it. I'm going to just go out there and we're going to just keep doing our thing and like reminding these people exactly who we are. But like to not feel frustrated about not being on the biggest show, I think like, OK, what are you really here for? Like, you know, I'm not I feel like everybody that's dreamed about doing this or love doing this, like they want to be on WrestleMania.

22:20That's just what it is. So if you're not on WrestleMania and to not feel a way and for people to think that you don't feel the way, I think it's a little ludicrous because, you know, like you say, it's okay to be respectful and humble, but, like, you know, you're not on WrestleMania. You're going to feel a certain way. It's like, damn, I ain't on WrestleMania. That is the grandest stage of the world. And, like, I'm one of the most laid-back dudes around, like, I don't let a lot of stuff get to me, but, like, not being on Mania, that'll get to me. And I also feel like if your goal ain't Mania, if that's not your end goal to even be on Mania, then, like, what are you doing, bro?

22:56What's your motivation there. And then, like, you know, just like the playoffs, most people may not watch wrestling all year, but they watch WrestleMania, and you're not on that. So you did all this work all year for a chance for people not even see your craft. So, like, yeah, that's a frustration right there, but also, you can't harp on it too long because you still got to go out there the next night and the next night and the next night and lead up to the next week. So... Now, I mean, what else are you in it for, man? If we're not going to the Super Bowl... Sorry, Dawkins. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

23:31Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. We can cut his mic off if you want, Dawkins. I didn't mean to. Anyway, so I got a nice one lined up. Will you shoot after that? Hold on, chill out, dawg. All right, it's Monday. So Dawkins, earlier in our interview, you spoke about the travel and how, you know, going to Europe and all that, like, you know, it was a blessing. And it was your record. Welcome to wrestling moment. Talk to me about being able to do the suit in Barcelona. And then after that Montez, I need to know what's scarier falling off the top of the elimination chamber.

24:13I know about your fear of heights or talking to Mark Henry before you got in court. Cause you know, cause you know, We had the missus on early on in our pod history, and she told us all about that story. But I need to know that, Sui. I need to know, what's that like in Spain? Oh, bro, it was nuts, man. I mean, what was crazy about it, like, obviously, you know the history. Real Madrid, Barcelona, can't stand each other. Like, it's like a very heated rivalry. It's Ohio State and Team Up North times on steroids, all that stuff. Lakers, Celtics on steroids there. So the crazy part was what's-his-face from Barcelona was there.

24:53Laminia Mal. He was there. And I don't know if y 'all caught the arrival shot of that episode. I was wearing a Real Madrid kit under my suit jacket. So everybody knew what time I was on. And I was just in Madrid a couple days earlier for the second leg against Atletico Madrid. So everybody knew what time I was on. I was pumped. He's like, oh, I'm definitely hitting the suit. bro. I'm a huge Ronaldo fan too. So like, I was like, all right, I got to do it. So when I did it, I thought I was going to get booed. That crazy part is like Ronaldo's so good, dog. Everybody going to do it with you, including his own rivals.

25:36I love that. I love a good troll, man. I had my Laker belt in the Clippers arena for the raw at Netflix. And I got some booze. I tried to get him kicked out. To be honest with you. I was right. Because I'm a Clipper fan. Gross. You're being disrespectful in our house. Get out. Gross. So, Tess, before you – Shavey Dwayne's thing, man. I got an unknown guilty pleasure I ain't tell people. I love Shea Goy with the fans. You know, I just like sitting back going like, yeah, get him.

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26:10I can't help it, man. The ultimate choice. Sometimes it's them days where you just got to let him know, man. He'd be letting them be like, go ahead, Shade. Go ahead. Like Stevie Ray used to always say on Nitro back in the day, suckers need to know. Yeah, bro. Suckers need to know. Rich Eisen here for Gusto. On my shows, we talk a lot about what happens in the spotlight, the games, the highlights, and the moments that get replayed and debated. But in any successful operation, what happens behind the scenes matters just as much. Small businesses are no different. Payroll, hiring, onboarding, benefits, and all the details that keep things moving may not be the most visible part of the job, but they still have to be handled right.

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28:03Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash Eisen. Terms and conditions apply. Now, Shane, before you answer, or Tez, before you answer Shane's question, I guess maybe we'll get people brought up to where that came from. We had Mark Henry on the podcast early. He was telling us about how, you know, he kind of would tell wrestlers, maybe, you know, don't date within the business, especially us. We can't be doing that. And then, of course, he gets a phone call. and then we had Bianca on the pod and she clarified Mark Henry's story.

28:39So Montez, why don't you give us your version? So what'd she tell you? Said that you had to ask Mark before all that courtings started happening. You had to call her dad and Mark Henry. Man, they put the pressure on me, man. I did not have it easy at all. So I remember a little bit before that, her parents they went to Myrtle they go to Myrtle Beach every year for their anniversary and I remember the whole family was over there. She was taking me over there to pretty much talk to them. I'm like, God dang. I had to do her father and Mark Henry. It was a whole process. I remember with Mark I think it was around Mark told her not to date nobody.

29:28I was like, oh God. man so we were like the first couple to like actually like i feel like we were like one of the first or probably the first couple to actually like break it out on the pc because like it used to be a thing where like man you don't you don't date in the business man you don't date in the business at all and if you do you keep that under wraps and i remember for like the day i got tired of it i kid you not the day i got sick of it uh you know florida high and i remember she dropped me off like all the way to the edge of the street and like she just drove the car we were driving at the time to the pc and i'm like man she in there air conditioning all cool and beautiful and i gotta walk my ass to this pc because we're trying to keep this quiet so i'm like you know we're telling somebody so had to tell somebody you know and then was it your tag team partner you told?

30:17I didn't even tell dogs. That's... Okay. Like, I mean, he kind of, he had an inkling, but he didn't, because, you know, it was a lot going on at the time, so I had to like, I had to respect her privacy, my privacy. It was a lot going on, y 'all. And then I had to go talk to Mark on top of that. He was like, he was like, yeah, man, you know, I told her, you know, don't be dating nobody here, but, you know, if y 'all gonna do it right, then it's okay. And I already knew what he meant by that. Like, y 'all gonna do it right. Like, if you're gonna marry her, then that's okay. So that's why, you know, that's why I married her, because I got scared by Mark Henry in a damn day.

31:04Absolutely. We've been waiting so long to get your side. It was great he didn't tell me, because I would have been like, man, you crazy? You good? I was like, bro, if you get in the business, I just want you to know, you got to go to work and home. Yeah, man. 24 hours. Like, it ain't no break. And mind you, and here's what made it more pressure. Like, this is what a lot of people don't even realize, too. Mark Henry was the one who actually, like, you know, gave the airplane and brought her in. So imagine, like, he puts in this good word for this girl, and then she get laced up with this mug, Montez, and then they go off and, you know, it's, yeah, so it's, you know, it's a lot of things going on, but, you know, it ended out really well.

31:50Doug's still shaking his head at you. Prevail. Since it is Bianca Belair and since we are on record, Tez, early on in our podcast, Shay and I had to talk and I was like, you know what, I don't care what happens. I ain't never booing Bianca. I ain't never booing Bianca. I ain't nobody, nah. Nah, I told her that. She can try to go ill. She can try to go bad. Like, they just going to rock with her, man. I don't care if she does go Hill. I said, look, she could go to Altoona, Pennsylvania, roll up to my mom's crib and assault my mom. And my first question will be like, Mom, what you do to Bianca? What you do?

32:24What you do? What you do, Mama? What you do? Mom, I'll just turn it off. That's probably the only person that would. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. But I'm sure that's a little sister to him right there so he can do that. Yeah, yeah. And they go at it all the time. And they be putting me in like these awkward positions because like, this is my tag partner, but this is my life partner. And they just don't be agreeing when it's time to be agreeing. So Jack, Jim, in the eye on they show. I saw it. I saw it. You know, we don't want to get to make this too much of a love connection, but it's Bianca. So we got to know, like, do you remember like the first time seeing her and you going, yo, I, I got to shoot my shot, man.

33:07Man, that was, so it was like, so we had this, we had dysfunction at work one time. And like one of the girls, like in her locker room, like invited everybody to go out to sushi. And I mind you, like, I ain't never messed with sushi. I ain't, I didn't like the difficulty of eating it. It was just too much of a process, you know? I get it. I don't eat it either. Now I love sushi, you know, besides all this. But I went there, I remember I showed up and she was in like this red dress and, like, just very sleek, beautiful, like, bright, like, colorful person. And, like, I just remember seeing that and being so attracted to that and, like, just being attracted to her smile.

33:47I know as crazy as that sounds, just, like, her smile. So it's, like, one of the main reasons why I act so crazy on TV because she's always laughing about it. But just, like, man, just, like, a genuine, like, person that just made me want to be better from, like, day one. and uh literally from that night we met up like we never separated from that point you know like we helped each other with our life transitions and like for wrestling from groves to peaks and valleys and just keeping ourselves grounded literally like that's like my best friend so but that's when i'm known like that first night like that first night we we hit off i was like not giving her no play the whole time though because i was just trying to make sure this is what she wanted you know like she was like she was trying to talk to me she was trying to sit beside me in movie theaters.

34:32She even bought me a drink. I know. I know.

34:40She was sending the signs, man, but I was just trying to make sure, like, hey, if this is what you want to do, then, you know, that consent, the consent. That's right. So, Doc, he's saying he was playing hard to get. Is this true? I said, he said, Ted's making it seem like he was playing hard to get. Is this how you saw the situation? yes I'll bring her right now I'll bring her right now give me a two second cameo we got a no contest favorite no contest favorite it's very true there she is what's up B hey how you been I'm good. I'm good. I hear y 'all talking from the other room. Yes, he was giving me no play.

35:33Damn. Wow. What a star, man. No play. What a strong man. I was just trying to make sure this is what she wanted to do. That's all. You got to pick a battle sometime. She gave a thumbs down to Dawkins, so what you guys said is true. That is a brother and sister right there. I don't know why y 'all got you on here. You know why she mad. 42-17. That's why. Bye. I'm out. 42-17. Ohio State over Tennessee. Oh, my goodness. I'm sorry. That's why y 'all can't get along. My mama taught me if I got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing. So, it's nice to see y 'all. It's a pleasure. Because I am. Peace.

36:18For y 'all anniversary,$2 gift cards. It's a gift, all right? Yeah, you really about to. Yeah. Okay. You know what? See, I want to be on a road trip with those two. That's fun right there. But Dawkins... See, y 'all just saw a sample. That's all the time. But Dawkins, you done set it off. So, Sigard is nice shit, TJ. Yeah, let's get into it. Sigard is nice shit. What people don't know is that November 2nd, 2025, the street profits will actually be going one-on-one against each other. Say what? That's right. That's right. The Cincinnati Bengals versus the Chicago Bears. Oh, baby. Let's go to November 2nd.

36:59Only time this season. That's it. That's right. So let me know what's going to go down. Yeah. Do you want to go down? I'm just going to go ahead and say this right now, man. I love you, man. I love you with all my heart. I've been taking care of you left and right, high and low, peaks and valleys. People have pulled up against you, and I've shut them down every single time. And you already know man, if a bullet was flying this way towards you, I'd step right in front of him and be like, what's up? But come November 2nd, bro, that goes out the window. Talk to him. That's right. The red light will be on.

37:33The lights will be shining. It will be the Cincinnati Bengals for the Chicago Bears. And you know what? For the first time, I will have to do damage to you without even laying a finger on you. The Chicago Bears will do that themselves to the Bengals. And no, no, no, no. It's not just any day. It is the day that you will finally realize that all the weapons y 'all have had for years doesn't matter. And they still don't matter. So, brother, I will accompany you to the game. I will buy you your drinks and your jerseys. But just know that the heartbreak always comes at the end. God bless you, brother.

38:13And I will see you November 2nd. Okay? Oh, guys. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I just want a roly, roly, roly with a dapper ranch. All right. That's all I want. Wow. Such sentimental, you know, such a great soliloquy. You just went on there. My brother, my friend, my guy, my tag team partner. See, guys, this is what I love. You know what I'm saying? I'm a I'm a giving guy. I like to share the wealth. OK, I share the wealth. See, one half of that household has already experienced my team dominating their team. It's only right that my other team dominates that team, the Chicago Bears, November 2nd. Bro, I've seen you cry.

39:02I've seen you cry when they lose. Those are close games. Those are nail biters. I feel bad for what Cincinnati's going to do to you, but it's okay. You know what I'm saying? We got the tickets. You, your pops. Me, my brothers, we can be in Cincinnati. Be chillin'. I'm going to show you great Cincinnati hospitality. You know what I'm saying? I'll let you know, take you down on a journey in the city of Cincinnati, in the jungle. Because once we step foot on that football field, once we sit down in them seats, oh, my Lord, what the Bengals are going to do to the Bears is going to be historical. They're going to talk about this in history books.

39:44They're going to be treating this like it's one gorilla versus 100 dudes, all right? It's going to be like, it's going to be biographical what the Bengals are going to do to the Bears. It's going to be so, so, so beautiful. And for Senators at the same time, you're not even going to know what to do with it. But it's okay. I will make sure Bianca's there so you have a shoulder to cry on. I will also make sure Seth and CM Punk settle their beef because they're both Bears fans as well. Hey, come on down to Cincinnati because Taz is going to need a couple extra shoulders to cry on for what the Bengals are going to do to the Bears.

40:25Welcome to the jungle. Oh, my goodness. Welcome to the jungle. Oh, my goodness. I feel like this needs to be clipped and sent to the NFL and played before the game. Yeah. Yeah. It's personal. It's personal right here. Oh, wait. Hello? Hello? Yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah. Go on, order a bunch of tissues, a bunch of, like, you know what I'm saying, wipes, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you might need to get him some extra clothes, because he's going to be crying too much. But, hey, it's okay, though. It might be cold. It's November, so the tears might be frozen. So he's going to have, like, 17 teardrops just right there glued to his cheeks.

41:02You know what I'm saying? He's going to have... He's going to be good this year. The last three, years and they still cannot get it done. Am I right? Oh, it's crazy. I'm crazy, but it's okay. Don't worry. That household, that household will be complete when the Bengals beat down the Bears. Ohio State already said Tennessee packing. Quarterback in UCLA right now. They beat them. What you think they're going to do to the Bears? Caleb Williams, huh? Caleb Williams? This is all I'm going to say right now. it's before 9 p.m. you need to hang up that phone them minutes are not free you don't need free minutes the minutes are not free he said you waste any time minutes oh man this has been great the Bengals better win now that was crazy I'm looking forward to this game more than any cowboy game this year y 'all gonna see him we gonna come right back on here specifically to talk about that game We're going to come back on the podcast to specifically talk about that game.

42:11All right, we're going to hold you to that. We're going to hold you to that. I'm going to tell y 'all a story. The Bears versus the Washington Commanders. Don't remember how that game ended, right? Oh, my God. Don't do that. Don't remember how that game ended. Don't do that. You guys, you can travel with this man. When that game ended, what do you do? Don't do that. I apologize to make sure you're okay. Because that's what a brother does. That's what a brother does. I'm not a brother. Oh, brother, that's what I do. I'm going to check on you because I know you're going to be hurting. Don't worry.

42:42I already know in advance you're going to be hurting. But we in August still? We in August right now, right? We still in August? Oh, November is going to be sweet. Hey, you know what? Hey, look, bro, don't even worry about Thanksgiving. Come over here, bro. You know what I'm saying? Hey, look, man, I don't even want you to be depressed. I want you to be right here with your fam, my fam, in one house. You know what I'm saying? Thanksgiving. and phone me because that's how bad the bingos gonna beat the Bears. It's gonna be Okay Okay Yeah Okay Well you know I gotta admit my best friend's a Bears fan and I was watching that game with him and I thought the world was ending on that day You know how I feel about Seth Rollins Out of all the things that could possibly happen that happened.

43:33Yeah Yeah, that was wild. Right? And they can pinpoint whose fault it was if you look at the video. Yeah. It's like, oh, they went to the clinch. Oh, they got to be with us. Oh. You know, we're quick-witted here, fellas. You know, we're a sports show. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that was, I'm sure. That was more than what I did. You know what? It's a great story to tell you. You know, when I received it, I went to college, right? The one that caught the ball, Noah Brown? Oh, no way. Ohio State University. I get it. I get it. See, man? Ohio State caused some problems in households. That's crazy. Shout out to my cousin, Michael Thomas.

44:10Can't guard Mike. Can't guard Mike. Guard Mike. You know, and here on the Rich, we're part of the Rich Eisen show, and he's a big Michigan man, so we hear a lot. He literally just left the studio a minute ago right before you start talking. He would have brought up the fact that you haven't beat Michigan in, what, four years? Damn! I mean, they haven't. You know what? They ain't got nothing to do with me. They ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm a Penn State fan. Tell him that I said this, okay? There's only one team that canceled the game. In the whole history of the rivalry, they canceled the game.

44:46They canceled it. That's the only reason they got those four wins, because you know what I'm saying? They needed an extra year to scout. You know what I'm saying? They needed an extra year, because we already know somebody was on the hot seat. He might be coaching for the Chargers last time I checked, but he was on the hot seat. So he had to do something. He had to go above and beyond to illegal measures to get the dub. But that's cool. That's straight. Hey, look, Rich Eisen, hey, I'm a fan of his show. Anytime he wants to talk Ohio State and Michigan, put him here, I'm ready. I still remember the video where he thought he was going to say Urban Meyer put the nail in the final coffin to Urban Meyer.

45:29What ended up happening? Put up 70 points on him. This last game. The game, only undefeated coach in the whole rivalry. 7-0. Glimmich. Couldn't be beat. Couldn't be beat. You done got him riled up. See? He's about to go run through a wall after this interview. We might have to clip this and play it on the show tomorrow. Please do it. Please do it. Please do it. But real quick, you mentioned the name Seth Rollins. Yeah. You know, when Seth was injured, he came and he hosted the Rich Eisen show for two days and had the leg brace on. He he pulled the wool over all of our eyes. But then you see, he came on the Monday after winning the world title.

46:12And he said something to us. So I got to ask you this. He told us that he and his wife, Becky Lynch, had dinner with you and Bianca and had the brace on and the crutches. Just so we got to know, did you think anything was off or were you completely buying this too? And where was the dinner? Oh, so the dinner was at this very nice place out in L.A. because me and my wife was out there shooting something with Nick Cannon. And we went out and he had the brace and everything on. And, like, you know, it wasn't nothing off. You know, we went to dinner. You know, he sat there. He had the braces on and everything.

46:49We weren't really, like, moving around, like, at all. Like, you know, he wasn't like it wasn't like we went somewhere like to the mall or we went ice skating where like he had to move around a lot. Like literally we walked in, we embraced each other and then we went to our seats to sat down. So like I didn't really see him like moving around a lot at all, you know. And sometimes like especially when somebody's like, you know, hurt, like, you know, you don't really ask too much about the injury because, you know, some people just, you know, they they get real sensitive about that. You know, sometimes people still going through their transition or whatever it is.

47:22You kind of just stay away from it. But, you know, we had a good conversation. But, like, nah, he, you know, he was chilling. So I ain't, you know, I ain't no nothing. You know what I'm saying? I ain't no nothing. No, not ten, not ten. You know, he went out with the braces and everything. And I ain't think nothing, you know. If you would have saw him that night, you would have, you know, obviously thought, like, you know, something's up, you know. Because if he would have obviously walked out without no braces, then that just sounds like somebody that's dedicated to the craft, to his plan. He had a plan B, and he stuck with the plan, whether he was in the ring or out in the ring.

47:59That says a lot about him. So, yeah. And for sure. And here's a video I took when he was hosting because, you know, people ask me because I'm the wrestling fan on the Rich Eisen show. They're like, did you believe him? I said 99 % of me believed him, but 1 % I wasn't sure. And that's him going to the bathroom during a commercial break. People. So he held to it. He held to it. He held to it. Like I said, he held to it. Like I was out that night and like, you know, ask how he was doing, but didn't go into deep, you know, full detail about his knee. But, but he was, like I said, he held to it. Like he, he went to the bathroom, whatever he needed to do.

48:34He was on, he was on it. So that's somebody who sticking to the freaking plan, man. Like no matter if the camera's on or not. So. Hey man, I've been working here for almost a year. Where the hell, what the hell desk was that? Oh, that's when we, I was wondering what you were looking around. Yeah, man, what the hell desk was that, bro? That's not here. We used to film Women's Sports Now here, so that was their set. They used to shoot on Wednesdays. Don't be changing furniture, bro. That's why we got moved. We used to do the pod on Wednesdays. We got bumped to Mondays because they were doing, so yeah, that was, you were never here on Wednesdays.

49:07All right. I don't like being left out. But, so there's something, there's a question I want to make sure we get out the way. and give you guys time to think about it. It's our number one question on this show. Now, I was thinking about, you know, should we make them pick other tag teams and increase the bar? But I think they got a little bit of a sibling rivalry between them two. So we're going to let them pick three apiece. Yeah, yeah. Let them do the whole five. The whole five. The whole five. Individually. Yeah, individually. We're going to do this individually. You know, we know y 'all love each other, but you don't have to pick each other.

49:41Because they're two hours away from each other. They might be in a different bar that night. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So you in a bar. Yes. 50 dudes in that bar, and they big time hating. Yeah. They don't like smoke. Yeah, they don't want you in there, bro. So both of you, separately, have to pick a team of you and four other superstars to make sure you're getting out that bar and you're getting in the car. Who is your bar fight crew? And they could be superstars of any era, by the way. I got to think on this one. Oh, from any era? Any era, yeah. It's true. I was going to pick from now. Oh, you can do whatever you want.

50:22I'm just saying you're not limited right now, though. Okay, if I was doing now, I would definitely say Omos. That makes sense. You know, you got to have the Eclipse on your team, man. I would say Omos, Obafemi. Oh, yeah, the ruler. The ruler. And if I can't do docs, I would choose Otis or Gunther. Okay. Ooh. Okay. Okay. So you're looking at you, Omos, Oba, Otis, and Gunther. Gunther. And that's Gunther with an A. Not with an E-R. Not an E-R, because we don't do that here. We don't do that right here. Nah, Gunther. Gunther. The ring hand of Ralph Gunther. Yeah, bro. Hey, that's the second time Otis done got picked.

51:07Otis must be, he must go. Well, look at him. No, he, Otis, okay, so that's what people don't realize about a lot of people that don't know about a lot of people that you know you know otis but the people that know otis know like otis is probably like one of the strongest human beings that's walking the face of this earth like you don't realize you don't realize how strong he is too and like even when you embrace him every week like he gives you a hug and like you get a chiropractor adjustment like he's he's very very strong and like he that that's if we were doing like 100 versus the gorilla like that's the example of exactly how that would be with Otis.

51:43Yeah. Otis is definitely cracking my line up, bro. What you going to do to hurt Otis? You can't hurt him. You can't pick him up. You can't throw him. He's just a bowling ball, bro. Center of gravity is off the chain. Yes. And he got balance. He was a collegiate wrestler, right? Yeah, he was a beast. And he can headbutt people and knock him out. So, hey. You don't want the problems. All right, dog, your turn. All right. Let me go Otis. I'm going to go very biased on this one. I'd definitely go Gable, Chad Gable. Yep. Yep. Man, I will go Jason Jordan. oh man what might have been with Jason Jordan too man beast man and it's mine too mine still creative I got two more or one more you got one more it's you Otis Gabriel you got American Alpha can't choose me though we can't oh we can't okay okay cause I would have had you replaced outside of you yeah yeah I got you I got you Remember, you can pick anybody from any time.

53:12From any time? Oh. Oh. Ron Simmons. Oh, yeah. You got to go to Ron. Oh, yeah. I got to film both of y 'all making the home all right that night. Yeah, bro. Bro, Ron Simmons will choke your ass out, boy. Yes. I think he would choke you. I think he would just knock you out. Choke your ass out, boy. Hell, yeah. Solid teams. Solid teams. That's our number one question because who don't like to draft? right who don't like to have a draft real quick exactly bro coming up now bro and then like the combined weight of my the combined weight of my draft is like over a ton anyway so that's why i'm like i ain't i ain't worried about there's a lot of weight on your squad right there yeah oh yeah all right so another question that that people seem to like here is uh street profits we got a working time machine here at no contest wrestling we keep it on the download because we want everybody knowing about it.

54:10We got a time machine. So basically what we're going to do is we're going to come over, swoop you guys up, and we're going to let you set the coordinates, right? And you get to choose five tag teams from any era to have a WrestleMania main event with. What five tag teams do the Street Profits want to test themselves against? I mean, we all probably got the same answer. So I'll do one, you do one. We got five. Well, I would definitely say for us, I would say Harlem Heat. Oh, my gosh. Because I'm black, y 'all. That's one, dawgs. So you go ahead and do the next one before I do my next one. Time Machine.

54:58Let me go. You know what? Rock and Roll Express. Love it. Rookie and Robert. Yo. All right. i would definitely have to say the hardy boys that's gonna be such a banger uh what is this four that's three right there harlem he rocks three hardys okay

55:29Dudley's. Dudley's for sure. All right. Let's see. I had to. Yeah. So many because you can't just limit them down to just one. It's insane. I tried to pick one from each. Yeah. Well, I definitely would have to do.

55:55two-man power trip. Whoa. Trips and Stone Cold. I thought it was going to be DX, but he went above and beyond. Two-man power trip. That's the first time they've been mentioned. Yeah, do it then. Let's get it on. I don't have to. I wanted to throw a swerve in that one because we've always said the same answers every time we've answered that. That was the first time I've said the Rock and Roll Express. that's the first time he said two man power trip I like that yeah man just give it like a nice little range because like you know you got Stone Cold and you got the game that was different styles right there that's not nice I'm clicking up oh wait real quick real quick because you did have a moment if I'm not mistaken where Bubba got to tell y 'all get the tables Talk to us about that.

56:51That had to be dope. Oh, it was dope. Oh, it was crazy. What was it? I believe that first table broke. Yeah. Terry and Cross for sure broke that table. We put him on the table and it just broke. And we just looked. We was like, oh, dang. That table broke. And we was like, what am I doing? So we rushed out to read. But no, it was dope, man. That was WrestleMania in Philly. Yeah. So, I mean, hey, the warmer night. You're right. Night two, you know? Night one was freezing, man. Yeah, we wouldn't catch no kendo sticks and tables through no cold, you know? So, that was great. But, no, I mean, it was dope just to have a guy like him in that match, you know what I'm saying?

57:39And obviously he's made those matches like cool and all that stuff. That's been his forte and tag team wrestling, especially street fights, TLCs, tables, all that stuff. So that was cool to have them be a part of that moment with us. And he's like giving us insight and all that stuff. So, I mean, he's always been in our ear, even with the TLC matches, the last two TLC matches. So like, it was dope to have him there and like talking to us and like telling us like, Hey, you know what I'm saying? and giving us advice on certain things and stuff like that. But it was dope. That's what's up. You know, the thing about that is it's almost like, Shay, the Street Profits are that team, right?

58:20They tried to make Hill a little bit, but fans ain't having it. You guys just – you guys ain't – I don't know what you'd actually have to do to really get booed because they tried to make them Hills, and then they just – you guys are your baby faces. And go ahead and do bad stuff, we're still going to cheer you. Yeah, man. They're too dope. I guess I got to start being like real life, talking to them in real life, honestly. That's the thing now. People don't see this. No, y 'all is too chill. We ain't believe it. You got to keep pushing that Ohio propaganda, right? So I know our time is almost up.

58:54I know. I know our time is almost up with y 'all here, but I guess the last thing we got to ask is, you know, there are so many people that clamoring. I don't know why, but they want to see a singles run out of the two of you. Why don't you tell the people why, man? Street Profits are in this together. well so that's what i'm gonna say like uh me and dogs have had success for a very very long time and you know just like with any team within the organization like you know the jackson five in sync you know backstreet boys black street whatever it is you know they've always wanted to see like teddy you know the solo acts you know do their thing you know and rightfully so So, but, you know, once you start taking, like, the attention off of, like, just going solo and doing all the other things, then your success as a tag team just starts going down.

59:47And, like, I feel like one thing that me and Docs are very, very happy about and that I'm specifically happy about is that, like, no matter how high or low we've gotten, like, one of the decisions of us, like, turning on each other has never, like, crossed our mind. And, like, just not to throw shade on nobody, but I'm going to go ahead and do it. You got the Usos, you got all these tag teams that turned against their brother in like 10 years. We've never decided to do that because we know nobody wins when the family fused. Now, if that opportunity arises or approaches and me and Docs are in the red room, but at the same time, we're glancing across from each other, it's a respectful thing.

1:00:28Hey, brother, I love you, but this is where we are right now. But, like, since we're a tag team, since we're a unit, and we ain't paying attention to that noise too much. We see it, and we respect it, and we love it. But, like, you can't take, you know, attention off, you know, the task at hand. That's like if a player is going to another team next year and he just starts playing like ass because he knows he's leaving. It's like now it's like the team ain't benefiting, and, like, everything is just being focused on what hasn't even happened yet, you know? So that's kind of like my response to that.

1:01:00But like I said, if that opportunity approaches, then, you know, I'm going to look across my brother and be like, all right, man, I love you. But this is where we, this is where it kind of. Got to just bow to each other like a samurai. Yes, man, you know. All right, bro. You know. What you feeling about that? I mean, look, I feel the same way, man. Like, this is one of those things, like, it's cool to hear. It's cool to see, like, it's cool to see the fans, like, engage in that stuff but look for one my cardio ain't there to be a singles anyway all right so uh yeah i'd rather be a tag wrestler for life but no man look that's my brother man we've been around each other for 10 plus years so obviously like if that opportunity ever came like hey obviously we're both gonna go out there and kill it and do what we do best and we know each other we got each other's backs no matter what, but also too, like at the same time, like, it's just like the tag division is just heating up on SmackDown, you know, like we've been balling and like going up against all these tag teams and it's been awesome to see like the resurgence back.

1:02:13And so like, we don't kind of want to let that like leave just yet. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We, we helped build it up. So why would we want to like leave it? and also like we brothers at the end and you know so obviously if that opportunity ever arises like we know what we're both capable of we're going to support each other to the fullest extent and you know say hey if it is a thing where we're crossing each other at rumble hey somebody gonna have bragging rights at the dinner table next time you know hey listen it's all fun and games until november 2nd ladies and gentlemen give it up for the Street Profits.

1:02:53That's where we go now, God. Appreciate y 'all. Appreciate you guys very much. And since Seth threw the wool, like I said, over our eyes, I ain't believing nothing. They say Street Profits are breaking up next week on Street Profits. I don't believe it, bro. And Tez, we didn't get to it, but next time you all, we got to talk about how when you was going up against Roman, that announce table just exploded as soon as you touched it. Hey, man, you know, I did too many squats that day. My right leg was strong as hell that day. I appreciate you guys, man. Like I said, we've been wanting you for a minute, so this meant a lot.

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1:04:01Rich Eisen here with some advice. If high interest credit card debt is grinding you down, it might be time to call an audible with a SoFi personal loan. It consolidates your debt into one low monthly payment with no fees required. And with as soon as the same day funding, you can make the right play fast. Call an audible on your debt today at SoFi.com slash debt play. Loans originated by SoFi Bank N.A. Member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891. Fast funds terms apply at SoFi.com slash debt play. All right, TJ. Yes, sir. Our next guest. He's the man of mystery right here. He's a wild boy, man.

1:04:38Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. He's the man of mystery right here. The man was picked by the dead man not once, but twice. That's got to be a good sign. And, you know, he might be into some shady activities. Perhaps when we can get into a lot of that, he's somebody that you see the stardom. You can see how many directions he can go, and a lot of that is, you know, the choice of what he chooses. We're still going to be completely behind him. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the pod. Probably the best real name I've ever heard in sports entertainment. man but for now we'll just call him shiloh guys thank you so much for having me it's awesome to be here yeah thank you for sitting with us g yeah man you're just you're just a likable dude there's no way around it it's a smile man it's a smile uh yeah yeah exactly dude oh yeah we gotta get into it right now because you brought the smile, bro.

1:05:44That tooth, when it was on the side of the ring, I was like, oh, no, this dude's wild. That's crazy. Because you always see, like, you know, being wrestling fans, we always see something fly out of somebody, but you never get the end result. You always stink. Is that a tooth? Now, there's no way that's a tooth. Yeah, right. There was some spit with some gum. Yeah, gum. And then, no, no, they locked in on the tooth. so like talk to us about uh when you did lose the tooth and also the mindset of like nah we could use this yeah yeah no so my uh the first time I lost the tooth I was I think uh maybe 12 years old and my my cousin actually shot me in the mouth with a bb gun yeah not very nice of him um but then I had got it kind of replaced I got like a cap put on it and then I got it punched out a couple times in like middle school high school and then i had gotten it replaced when i came to wwe and then uh yeah as you said in one of my matches i had it kind of knocked out and then um it came out again later and eventually i was just kind of like man it might not be meant to be at this point so many people kind of like they appreciated that i was just rocking it without it in and uh yeah at this point it's kind of become a little bit of a calling card right makes sense Now, we know you played football.

1:07:08There was a little hockey in there, too? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this dude was born to bump, bro. Just smashed people, man. So to start at the beginning, though, you were born in Mission Viejo, and then you moved to New Hampshire. Yeah, I was born. My dad played at Juco College at Saddleback, and I was born when he was there. And then both my parents were originally from the Northeast, and we moved back to New Hampshire. and yeah, I went to high school and everything in New Hampshire and then wound up at Stanford. And you've got brothers and sisters and you've all got some interesting names. Oh, yeah.

1:07:46You got Zion, Darkness, Phoebe, Zachary, and then your name. Why don't you let everybody know, if we're okay with putting our government out there, why don't you let everybody know what your real name is? Yeah, our government name is Thunder Justice Keck. Come on, man. Come on, bro. Thunder Justice. this. He's a TJ. That's why I vibe with him. What's the meaning behind your real name? It's kind of a complex story. It really comes down to my mom and my dad kind of had a dream where they basically were talking to a baby. This is before they knew they were pregnant. and they were talking to it and it was like, hey, by the way, I'm your son.

1:08:35I'm going to be born soon and my name is Thunder. And so after that, they were like, oh my gosh, we should probably get a pregnancy test. And they got one. And then when they found out they were pregnant, they were like, not going to not name me Thunder at that point. So that's why they decided to go with it. That's amazing. So this man knows how to get to the wildest places on the internet. Yeah. And also spoke to his parents telepathically before he was even really formed. Dude, come on. Dude's a bad man. Come on now. Okay. Now, you know, you played football. At Stanford. Let's not bury that.

1:09:18He didn't just. I wanted to bury it. Okay. Because he'll explain to you why. Yeah, man. I'm an SC guy, bro. So, you know, during my tenure at college, we were banned from bowl games. Pete Carroll, shout out to Pete Carroll, making the right decision and leaving USC to go to the pros. But we got, you know, we were sanctioned. So the four years that I was supposed to be at college, we were banned from bowl games for four years. But I do remember Stanford used to kick our ass like all the time. So I have a very hateful relationship with Stanford. But you seem cool. You seem like me, dude. I love playing at FC, man.

1:10:02It's a great environment. And it was always fun to go down there and do what we do. A little bit louder than life on the farm. Stanford is not notorious for audibly being the most exciting venue. It was always a fun change to go down to SC and get to compete there for sure. Now, when you decided to make the move to professional wrestling, when did you get bit by that bug? Like, when was it like, yeah, we could do this? Yeah, so that's a really good question. Growing up, I watched a lot of wrestling. My dad was a big WWE fan. So, like, from a young age, I remember, like, watching matches and kind of like reenacting spots with them and stuff.

1:10:46And it was always something that was like cool to me and close to my heart. I didn't really even think of it legitimately as like something that I could do until my senior year of college. I was kind of like training and everything. And they had sent some people to our school, WWE had who were part of the name, image and likeness program. And this was just when the NIO college ruling was getting rolling and everything. And I was wearing a WrestleMania shirt that day. And I was kind of like walking by the office that they were meeting in. And I went in and they were like, hey, do you like wrestling?

1:11:25I was like, yeah, I love wrestling. And they were like, would you ever want to wrestle? And I was like, oh, my gosh, like that would be so cool. I was like, yeah, definitely. And then they started asking me more questions. And I was like, yeah, I'm Thunder. And they were like, oh, you're Thunder. Like we've heard a lot about you from your teammates and everything. They were saying you might be interested. Actually, I was like, yeah. And it just worked out timing wise, too. It was kind of special to me because part of that season, my dad had passed away. And so for me to get that opportunity to do something that was like very like close to both of us and kind of like a cool part of our relationship as I was growing up was just like kind of a cool full circle moment.

1:12:04And so I signed the NIL program and everything. And then after I was done playing football, I had the opportunity to come to the PC and do a tryout. And my first time in the ring, like it's kind of it's kind of crazy, like going in there and feeling like how hard the mat is and running the ropes and everything. But then you just kind of once you actually get going with like another wrestler and everything and you get rolling, it's such a rush and it's so much fun. And I mean, from like the first time I even did like a little mini match and practice and everything, it just became so fun to me. and it's really become like an addiction.

1:12:36Like every time I go out there, I have so much fun. So, yeah, it's been cool. Now, first, you know, we want to say, you know, sorry to hear that about your pops, but you said that happened the same. Was it the same season? Yeah, so he passed away like right prior to that season. And then I actually – so prior to that, I hadn't been getting a lot of playing time. I, funny enough, actually started playing football my senior year of high school. um like halfway through the season also uh prior to that like you mentioned i played hockey and i ran track and everything and i had some uh track teammates that have been like hey you're pretty big for a track runner like if you we know you're really fast like if you went to like uh you know like a recruitment camp or something in the summer you might you might get some looks and so i went to some camps in the summer and they did like the 40-yard dash and everything and i did really well there and a couple schools actually offered me and said like hey we'll offer you a spot if you start playing but then a couple were like if you start playing and you show you can be like physical and everything then we'll give you a spot and so i started playing my senior year and uh they basically just put me on special teams and at like dn and told me to go hit the person with the ball and i they were like just run as fast as you can and go drill someone and i i did that and my highlight tape was honestly hilarious in high school because i had no idea what was going on um but then stanford was one of the the first uh like fbs schools that offered me a spot and so i went there but um obviously everyone else knew a lot more about football than me like i I remember my first day of camp showing up and being on, like, scout team and, like, looking at the card and it said, like, bite on the screen or something.

1:14:10And I, like, didn't know what to do. So I just went and, like, tackled whoever had the ball. And then they were like, hey, the card said bite on the screen. Like, do you not know what a screen pass is? And I was like, no. I was like, really? And I was like, yeah, no, I have no idea. So it was a tough learning curve for real while I was there. But prior to that season, I had, like, put in a lot of work and everything. and that was my first season where i became like a starting linebacker there and i played that whole season and everything and then after that is that's when i when i got that opportunity and yeah it was it was probably uh it was coveted season so we actually started the season late it was probably four or five months after my dad had passed that i got that opportunity to sign with the nil program that is just another one just with everything that you said about your name even And it's just another one of those things that just, the universe speaks through people sometimes, you know?

1:15:03And that's just one of those perfect right place, right time moments that you just can't ignore. Something I wanted to ask you on top of that is when was your welcome to wrestling moment where you're like, oh yeah. Okay. This is what we're doing now. So honestly, I think it was the first time I lost my tooth at the PC. That'll do it. yeah i had a i had like a a brawl match um with brooks jensen i'm not uh i'm sure you guys are familiar and uh we had a a little chair shot go a little bit uh miss miss a little bit and pick me and i i felt the tooth kind of break and everything and i started bleeding and then um we probably had the the brawl probably continued for like four or five minutes after that it was like my one of my favorite matches of all time we were we were going at it and And it got really, really fun.

1:15:54And that's when I think I thought to myself, like, man, I can really do this. And I think that moment is kind of when a lot of people in the PC started to be like, man, this guy might be able to do this. And, yeah, that was like still going back and watching is like one of the most fun matches I've wrestled to this day. So you play six games of high school football and you get a scholarship to Stanford. Yeah. You understand how insane that is, right? Yeah, no, it's a funny story in itself. So David Shaw was your coach there, correct? Yeah, he was my coach. Okay. How was it? Because, you know, Rich Eisen, who's the show I'm on, he always speaks very highly of David Shaw having met him once or twice myself.

1:16:35What was it like to have him as your coach? Yeah, I got a ton of respect for him. He's one of the coolest dudes I've met. Great, great mentor, great role model for all of us. And, yeah, he recruited so many great men, great athletes to the program that it was just, it was really cool to be a part of. It's a unique experience going there in that it's rare to be able to play football at like the highest level and be around people that are pursuing academics at the highest level as well. And so, man, just an awesome experience and really cool guy to get to learn from. And speaking of highest, in March of 23, he had, if I'm not mistaken, the highest NIL valuation of any Stanford athlete out there.

1:17:16Big flex. Is that correct? Yeah, that is correct, I believe. I mean, those the valuation is kind of more speculation. It doesn't always translate to real deals and everything. I think a lot of that was calculation based off like social following and everything. And, you know, prior to the NIL laws being passed, when I heard that they were going to be a thing, I started thinking about social media being something that I wanted to kind of invest a little bit into and try to grow on. And I did that. I started like posting videos and everything online and I did start to get that following so when those valuations came out They were doing that mostly based off like following and everything but that wasn't necessarily indicative of like deals that I was actually getting But you were smart enough to knew where the game was going man and you positioned yourself You did say you were a fan growing up.

1:18:08So who were some of your favorites as a kid? Yeah, so I was a I like the Undertaker. I like Stone Cold Steve Austin. I was also a big Hornswoggle guy And I got to meet him recently at WWE World when I was there. And that was a cool experience for me, too. What was it about Hornswoggle that you liked? I don't know. He's just so different. You know what I mean? It was cool. He had so many creative spots with fit and everything. And just like a little kid, seeing him going against bigger people and everything, it obviously resonated and it was fun to get behind. That's what's up. Yeah, when that music hit, it's a pop.

1:18:45Swogs ain't a pop, man. Yeah, bro. So he said Taker, which is kind of funny. Which is hilarious, bro. Yeah, like Taker picking you twice. I mean, when you are in the finals, you should get picked first. But talk to us a little bit about The Undertaker, what it's been like to work so closely with him. And you being a fan, that's got to be crazy. Yeah, I mean, bro, that first match of LFG, like doing the match in the PC in front of him was like the most nervous I've been for any match. I wrestled Anthony Luke that day and we were in the back like Bro, do you know what we're about to do right now?

1:19:28Still to this day, it was like the most nervous I've ever been And to go from that to now him being like a guy that I feel like I can go to with anything You know what I mean? Like just getting advice about the business and even outside of the business stuff Like he's a he's a dope dude to talk to And and that's really been the craziest thing that I feel like I've learned from him throughout this experience Obviously, I've learned so much from him about you know, the in-ring stuff the character stuff all that but Just like seeing the guy who's who's really like achieved the most you can achieve in this business like he's By all standards like a top guy in this field and to have him still be so Like passionate and so open to helping like the next generation come along is really really cool So, you know, like he has every right to be like, kid, go do your own thing.

1:20:18You know what I mean? I don't have time for you, but he's not like that at all. He's like the coolest, most down-to-earth guy. And talking to him has really just become fun. Like he's a guy I look up to a lot now and just a mentor I feel really fortunate to have kind of in my court. He's 6 '9", too, so you have to look up to him. You have to look up to him. Now, my man TJ over here got a funny Undertaker story. Really? Which one? The Fanatics Fest. Okay.

1:20:52So, Shiloh, I've been watching The Undertaker since before he was The Undertaker. I go back. I'm old enough to remember a guy named Mean Mark Callis who was in the Skyscrapers back in the day. When Undertaker popped up, I was like, that's Mean Mark. What's he doing? so we are at fanatics fest in new york this year and uh you know we we got to do a pod there we got to interview ray misterio it was amazing and basically anyone that you could ever want to meet was at fanatics fest this year right so we go into a room and there is the undertaker sitting in this room so she has this belt that he got as a gift when you were 10 years old years old wwe title belt that he had many signatures on and undertaker held the belt so he immediately goes up to taker and gets him to sign his belt my buddy mike mcginnis works for fanatics he introduces me to undertaker and i go hey mark good to meet you and then i went oh my god and then like about two minutes went by in conversation i was like hey i just i have to apologize i'm like i think because of the TV shows now and the podcast, I got this feeling like I knew you.

1:22:01I was explaining to him that I had met him after WrestleMania 21, which was 20 years ago, but I was like, I just got this weird feeling that I knew you and I called you Mark. I said, I shouldn't have called you Mark. I'm sorry. And he looks at me and goes, it's okay. He goes, the older I get, I'm a little bit easier with stuff like that now. But it just literally freaked me out. I was like, I should not be calling Undertaker by his government name. Who do you think you... Right. It's so crazy trying to detach that feeling of like, if I say the wrong thing, I'm about to get chokeslammed. It's honestly still there a little bit, but it took a while for that feeling to kind of dull down for me too.

1:22:39Yeah, I was definitely shook. I mean, it's taker. It's taker, bro. Now, we feel the fandom coming through the screen. So, something that I'd like to ask here on our show to people who grew up wrestling fans, let us know whether it be a match, outcome, or whatever. When did wrestling break your heart as a fan?

1:23:09I'd have to say the streak coming to an end. Yeah. I knew that was going there. Especially growing up watching Taker and everything. That one was it for me. That's got to hurt, dude. I remember, oh, man. You always look at that guy. You know, that guy with his eyes poking out of his head. Oh, yeah. The brother that they showed. Yeah, because he was all of us at that moment. Yeah, exactly. There's no way. I can't remember. It's a three. I was sitting in my garage watching in the garage on TV. And when that happened, it was like I had 50 things in a second went through my mind. Yeah. Other than what obviously just happened.

1:23:49I was like, oh, no, there was a glitch in the stream. Oh, the ref counted fast. Oh, he kicked out. oh did I black out for a second am I real what's happening and I just I didn't know I was like everything went through my mind except what actually happened because I was like there's no way that just happened yeah it was it's such a cold feeling it was like my childhood died in front of me and you know to this day people are still debating whether or not that was the right move was it the right person I guess there's no right or wrong answer, but I know we all felt something on that day, man. Yeah, I definitely felt something.

1:24:29I mean, I guess that's the whole point of wrestling is to feel something. I did not want to be feeling that on that day. You hit the nail on the head there, my man. Absolutely. Now, you've been around some legends in there. You've gotten obviously working with the future greats. You got any dream matches for yourself? And also, not only dream matches with the opponents, Is there any match types that you're dying to get to? A hell in a cell, a money in a bank, a rumble? Yeah. Yeah. So to answer both those questions, in terms of dream matches, so there's a ton of opponents on main roster I'd love to mix it up with.

1:25:11Gunther's a big one for me, and it was really cool to be able to wrestle for him on season, like in front of him on season one. And I actually got the point that day too, which was really cool. he's someone I would love to get in there with and uh I just respect um you know how real he makes it and uh yeah that's that's someone I would love to work with in terms of and I also want to say this I think we got a lot of young guys coming up right now that are going to be ones to watch and and we'll have some really cool matches in the future as well like honestly another one of my dream matches is to mix it up with uh Harlem Lewis and Anthony Luke and like a triple threat who are coming up on lfg with me right now and and we've uh obviously had the chance to work together a lot on the show i know at times there's a lot of animosity between us but i think when we get in together we put on some magic so uh i would love to put that match on one day as well um but in terms of like stipulations and everything uh i would love a hell in the cell i would also love a table tables ladders and chairs match um there was one specific match so I grew up a wrestling fan, but I hadn't really been able to see a lot of live wrestling growing up just with being in New Hampshire There's a pretty room in a pretty rural area I always had like a little bit of a tight budget and everything never got to like see a lot of wrestling in person so when I came to the PC, I got to see a lot more in person and there was a tables ladders and scares match With the the Creed brothers that I was it was like that match was like Julius took like a crazy bump off the ladder and and Brutus had his ear get ripped off and everything.

1:26:46I was like, this is going to be lit. I got really excited there. And that match sticks in my head as one of the coolest matches I've seen in person early on. So that stipulation will be really fun for me as well. I just got a random question, man. What's your search history look like on your laptop? Let's just cut to the chase. That's a great question. What are you doing? I'm scared. I want to ask how you get to the dark web, but then I'm like, nah, it's probably best. I don't know. That was his major, bro. Because I don't really think I need to be on there. But yeah, man, what's that search history looking like?

1:27:25Yeah. So, I mean, honestly, the search history on the on the regular Internet is pretty, pretty slim on the dark web, though. It is very extensive. And the way that came about is I majored in computer science while I was at Stanford. and I started, we were building basically for one of my projects, we were building a program to scan files that you download off the web for malicious content like viruses and stuff like that. So as part of that project, we realized that a lot of like complex computer viruses or the ones that are actually like dangerous or still kind of viable weren't necessarily on the regular internet.

1:28:00They were being housed in like cybersecurity forums on the dark web. And so for that project, we had to learn how to access the dark web and And then basically filter through it to get those viruses and then cross-reference them. But because of that, I kind of learned about the dark web. And that was right around the same time where I was learning about growing on social media and thinking about all that stuff. And I was like, wow, some content that would be really interesting would be to kind of search the dark web and document it in a social media format. And so I've been doing that for a while.

1:28:31And I've had some pretty interesting adventures, as it sounds like maybe you guys are aware of. Man. Yeah, it's been a journey. Where did the obsession with morbid and strange items come from? Just from that experience? Or is it something as a kid you were always into? I don't think as a kid at all. I think really I'm not that obsessed with them. Like, really, I just kind of find them. And then everyone else is like, man, you got to order these. I'm like, well, I guess if everyone really wants them. Like, I feel like everyone else is kind of driving the boat at this point. I'm just along for the ride on those series.

1:29:06But I have seen some, I have found some crazy stuff, and I encourage anyone who's unsure about what I'm talking about to check it out, but I can't get into too much detail on it. All right, Shiloh, just the two things that I know of, maybe we can fill the people in who are listening and watching. You found a couple pair of boots, right? Can you explain what these boots were? Yeah, so that one, there was a site called The Shuman, and it was kind of subtitled The Keeper of Souls. um and it was like a used shoes marketplace and everything but all the all the shoes on it were kind of like stained um and they look super shady and uh beyond that they were also labeled um with names and ages uh so i was like what is going on here and i found it and i posted that video and i remember like in the first day it got between all my accounts it got something like 50 million views and everyone was like oh my gosh you got to figure out what's going on here you got to try to buy these so i ordered some and uh they came and they they were stained in the same way that they were on the site and they uh were kind of seemed to be bloodied and um they had a vhs tape in them too and i was like what is going on and uh it took me a while to get a vcr and everything yeah that pissed me off how long i was like man get the vcr yeah no me too um and apparently vcrs are like hot commodities now like i literally went to i went to like every pawn shop in orlando i went to one that i found one and it was like 200 bucks i took it home and it was broken like and i've got two vcrs in the crib right now yeah yeah you should sell them man you'll make some money but uh i finally got a vcr and everything and it was just super shady stuff and um i don't know how to describe this uh i'm trying to give as much information as i can but uh there are now some people looking into those boots in particular, and I'm not necessarily supposed to give information about that, but I see what you're saying.

1:31:08Yeah, dude, because you have established a bit of a social media army, you know, and in this day and age when it comes to a superstar and their brand, like, you got a bunch of people behind you, man, this early on in your career. I know it's some shady tactics happening, But that's also really cool. That's really cool that you have such a support system so early. The leeches got me. The leeches, I was like, all right, this is enough, dude. I'm too far down a rabbit. Yeah. Those ones bother me, too. I mean, I encounter a lot of stuff. I also, there's a robot that now lives with me, which is like an AI-controlled one.

1:31:53The beast? Yeah, the beast. and uh yeah it's that that's turned into a whole another situation and then a whole another topic we could get into but um it's been something that's that's been um a really unique experience to be able to document and it's been really cool to see how many people are interested in that it's funny you mentioned that in like alignment with wrestling because every time i post a wrestling video or like of of like an lfg clip or uh like anything from the pc people are like wait you're a wrestler like i feel like a lot of people know me um like just from the dark web stuff and are now just learning that i'm wrestling and everything too so my kind of long-term goal with that is to be able to take those people who are passionate about what i'm doing online and and bring them into uh the wwe universe as wrestling fans and and for me that's going to be you know gratifying because um obviously both things are things that i'm passionate about but it's going to be really cool to take those people who i think are going to be interested in wrestling and kind of be able to to show them it firsthand now dude what makes you so just the directions that you can go the reason why you're just you can go anywhere is because you do have such a welcoming personality but we've also seen you hit that switch yeah where like you don't want to mess with that savage the The man loves physicality.

1:33:19He did hockey, football, and wrestling. He's all there for it. He'll go. With a mixture with the dark web stuff, you just never know when he's going to snap. It's just so many stories that he can do. Some of the characteristics you can. Now, the whole point of interviews like this and what we've tried to use our pod for is to get people aware of superstars and their personalities and what they can bring not only inside the ring, but who they are on the outside of the ring. And that shines through through you. Tell us why people should watch LFG. I think LFG is really just a cool way to see actually what it takes to be a WWE superstar.

1:34:04You know what I mean? That's the whole kind of premise of the show is letting fans in and seeing what goes into, one, being a wrestler, and then, two, the process of creating a wrestler. because we're being mentored by obviously the PC staff and then the legends as well. And they're, you know, telling us, kind of molding us into superstars. So it's a really cool opportunity for fans to see not only who we are and what we do, but also how wrestlers and their favorite superstars have been created and been kind of molded into what they see on TV. So that would be my biggest pitch in terms of watching it, is just to see kind of the process and how we grow.

1:34:41What has been the best thing about this new journey? And what has been the hardest thing about this new journey as a sports entertainer, professional wrestler? The best thing, honestly, has been getting to know the WWE universe. Like, I wasn't necessarily sure how I would be received. You know, like, obviously, I got weird hobbies and tendencies and everything like that. And I, from the outside in, I wasn't, I wasn't sure how it was going to be coming to the PC and getting to know everyone. But it's honestly been the most like inclusive and coolest community I've ever been a part of. Like this is one of the first times in my life where I've felt like at home and like a genuine like insider to a community.

1:35:27And like everyone I talked to and everyone I've interacted with, I feel like I, I feel like genuine love from them and understanding for them. So that's been the coolest part. In terms of the hardest part, I would say probably trying to figure out how to define myself. You know what I mean? Like you said, I've got a lot of interests and a lot of different things that I do and trying to figure out how to package that in a way that people can understand. because, like you said, I do kind of have a very, like, what's the word, a very

1:36:14diverse, eclectic, and a very intentional side, like a, I'm someone who thinks a lot about stuff, but I also do have a very chaotic and, like, sporadic side, and so figuring out how to, like, let people get to know both of those sides of me has probably been the hardest part so far, but it's something that I think is a really good problem to have and a challenge I'm really excited to attack. And isn't it half the reason, half the part of being there, helping you develop that character, figuring out what works for you so when you are ready for that main roster presentation, you've got everything clicking, right?

1:36:49Absolutely, absolutely. And, I mean, it's been so amazing to be here at the PC and start my wrestling journey here where so many people want to be, like being able to learn from Fit Finley, Terry Taylor, uh coach carino coach weston like coach wengler all my coaches man they've all they've all helped me so much i i i i can't tell you how how cool it is to be able to learn from these guys that are so passionate about what we do and so excited to to help the next generation like it's it's really really fun who are some of the guys or even girls who that you're closest with down there because we always wonder like what do you guys do like when you're you're not wrestling who are some of the cats you just hang out with and just kick it with yeah i would say like the the the way you come in you usually come in with like a class of it can be anywhere from like five to ten people attend wrestlers and um are the class you come in with like for the first like maybe four or five months you're working just with them and everything and learning how to do all like how to bump how to uh do different moves and everything and you're also doing things like unloading the truck and uh putting the ring together set up the ring and everything and um that's something like i've i've really had a good time with and like i i love doing stuff like that i'm a very like hands-on guy so being able to go in and unload the the ring and everything with with my boys has been really fun and and the class that i came in with i feel like we've got a lot of talent um of people that are on lfg it's me uh anthony luke harlem lewis uh troy yearwood was in our class as well and then Callie uh you just spoke with her Kendall Gray um Darion like we've we've got a awesome very very talented class that uh I've really grown to to um be pretty tight with and really love so yeah they're they're kind of my squad as of now but man there's so many older talent that I look up to as well that's what's up yeah dude you got you know you you you got a real opportunity here because it's hard to be the guy that as a fan, you look like you'll want to hang out with that dude, but also be the bad-ass at the same time.

1:38:56And you got it. Like you can, you can really flip that any type of way you want. And it'd be a dangerous person to have on a roster. It's like, you just don't know what that character is going to do. So like, let's just, let's just keep them on our side. And it just, it just gives you so many avenues to work with something that we asked Obafemi down at the PC which one of those coaches do you just not want to hear from who is the principal of the PC who is the guy that's like all right if he's talking to me I did something yeah all right here we go oh that's a great question I mean you know you're in for it if you got to have a conversation with them i don't know if i've if i've been in for it yet you know what i mean so i don't necessarily know i'm trying to think i feel like if you're i feel like if you really mess up you'll usually hear from uh coach bloom or hbk they're they're probably the two the two who will give you a stern talking to if you really mess up yeah but fortunately i've i've yet to have to encounter that

1:40:04You know, a lot of things I share with some of the NXT kids and I say kids because I'm older than all of you. But and none of them seem to know. Do you know about Matt Bloom's football career? I do know about it only because I played Pitt in one time and we won. So, yeah, that's kind of the extent of what I know. But yeah, we got a lot of intel for me. Yeah, well, I can remember because I am from Pittsburgh. I lived in Pittsburgh and around the same time. And he was he was bouncing at a bar restaurant that my roommate's girlfriend was a waitress at. So I never gotten any crap. But I can tell you that there was a lot of times when like there was this bar in Pitt's campus and there was a guy named Reuben Brown who went on to become all pro lineman in the NFL for the Bills and a few other teams.

1:40:58I think the Bears as well. and I can just remember there'd be times where there was always tough guys in this bar called Chauncey's and then Matt Bloom and Ruben Brown would walk in and then you would literally all the tough guys all of a sudden weren't so tough anymore and I'd see it happen man I hear cats with their chests all puffed up those two cats in the cup water lineman walking all of a sudden be like okay so yeah I don't doubt it at all man I don't doubt it at all he's still he's still when he wants to be intense, he can still be real intense. I'd love it. I'd love it. Now, TJ, speaking of bars, we have our number one question that we ask every guest.

1:41:35It's always fun to ask. You're in a bar, Shiloh. Alright? There's 50 dudes in that bar who probably work for the Schumann. They don't want you in there. They don't know how to access the dark web and they're upset. Yeah, they don't want you in there. We need you to pick a team of you and four other superstars of any era, any era, anytime, any era, four other superstars to make sure you're making it home that night? That's an awesome question. I'm glad it was that question because when you said speaking of bars, I thought I was going to have to freestyle or something. No. But in terms of five other superstars.

1:42:15You and four. You and four. Five and two. So I think I'll go at any era, too. Any era, man. I think I'm going Brock Lesnar. Yeah, of course. You're great. Prom Taker. I think I'm going Jacob Fatu. Okay.

1:42:35And we've got some beef as of late, but I think I'm going Harlem Lewis. All right. Yeah. Absolutely. That's a solid squad. Sometimes you've got to put your personal differences aside to make it to the whip. You know what I'm saying? We tried that question with Liv, and she did not pick Rhea Raffling. We were trying to get Liv Morgan to pick Rhea, and she was like, I know what you're saying, and I'm not picking. I was like, all right. Chill, chill. All right, so Shiloh, before we let you go, man, another one of our favorite questions here is, I don't know if you knew this, but at No Contest Wrestling, we have a time machine, okay?

1:43:09So what we like to do in this time machine is some dark web stuff. We're going to give you a chance to get in this time machine, brother, and you get to travel at any point through time, right? I want you to pick three. Give me three wrestlers of any era that you would like to bring back and have a main event WrestleMania banger with. Actually, no, give me five. Five wrestlers of any era that you would be like, man, I would love to bring them back or go back to their time and have a main event WrestleMania match. Who would it be? Okay, I think I'm going. I mean, obviously, with the way LG set up, I got to say Taker.

1:43:49to be able to go out there and see what he can do that would be really really cool he's one I would say Stone Cold as well that would be super cool I think I would I'd want to see what Hulkamania is all about I'd want to be out there and experience that and then there's three three two more

1:44:19honestly sean like i feel like mr wrestlemania yeah if there's anyone i could go out with and and and they could lead me to an amazing match i think it'd be sean and then i don't want to influence you right but can i just give you a name that i would bray wyatt i was actually that wasn't gonna be what i was gonna say if you if you didn't say that right there yeah man um yeah that would be super cool and and just with the the timing of like when i got into wrestling and everything um you know obviously he was he was really popping like right when i was getting recruited into the nil program and everything and he was someone who i was like man to be able to work him like one day would be really really cool and i was just i thought everything he was doing was so cool and and yeah that's a that's a great pick for sure i would i would definitely put that on the list dude i'll never forget that extreme rules when you hear he's got the whole world.

1:45:14Oh my God. In his hands. And look the white six don't have six. Yeah. You go with them creative liberties. Listen man I can I'm not trying to sweat Shiloh Hill but I remember watching LFG dog and I saw you and I was just like I don't know what it is right. But I'm like this dude here. He's got if it's not it it's something close to it and it's going to turn into it yeah so yeah man like i i feel bro like you got you got a huge opportunity ahead of you man and i think uh you got a chance to really make a name for yourself in this business bro yeah you will always have our support we will push the shiloh hill propaganda on the clean internet wherever you want us to push it off bro um you always got a home here on no contest bro thank you for your time you got a hell of a future in front of you and we We can't wait to see you.

1:46:06Thank you so much, man. It's been awesome being able to talk to y 'all. And listen, Shiloh, we're really glad that you're our friend. This is a friendship that will never, ever end.

1:46:21Appreciate you, man. Shiloh Hill. And there you have it. Yes, sir. That was fun today, man. Yeah, fun today. Nice guest-filled episode. Shout-out to Shiloh Hill. Shout-out to the Street Profits. Shout-out to Bianca Belair. Yeah, man. Beyond the Wind. We got a dick. I mean, how do you get one of the biggest names in the game just to randomly pop into your pod? Oh, when she's married to your guest. Yeah, bro. That was slick of us. Slick of us. By the way, you didn't even pay attention all day to my shirt. I got you. She's trying to make me cry. Damn, man. It messed me up when I made it. Same year.

1:46:58Kobe and Chadwick Boseman. I had to make a shirt out of this, man. You know? Bro, recipes to the mambo. recipes of the Black Mama, recipes of the Black Panther. Yes, sir. And when they go to the YouTube page and watch the videos, they'll see it, of course. And they'll find us on our socials. There's No Contest on Twitter, No Contest Wrestling Podcast on Instagram. Of course, the Rich Eyes and Show YouTube page. We'll have all of our videos. You'll be able to see Bianca pop in. You'll be able to see her, the animosity her and Dawkins have. And you'll be able to see Shiloh Hill. And maybe his search history will pop up.

1:47:34Who knows? I want to thank you guys. And just a quick message to our fans of the pod. Yeah, let them know what we got going on. You know, I know you guys have been with us on this journey. And it's been an amazing journey. Don't worry. Continues to be. Yeah, we're not breaking up. I'm just telling you, I got to go do my primary job. I got to go do a movie. I got to go film. So it's going to be, we're still trying to figure out exactly what things are going to be. we're still going to provide you with no contest wrestling yeah we ain't stop nothing we ain't stopping you know but me could be a guest host could be him zooming we don't know yet we'll figure it out we got she won't be here but don't worry we say we'll miss you she will be here when he can but when i'm done with the film we will go back to you know everything as as normally scheduled programming goes but just know that i will always have no contest on my mind and be texting TJ and Don.

1:48:34Crazy shit to tell y 'all. And you're only gone, what, four weeks? Yeah, about a month, a month, a little month, maybe five weeks because we've got to do some fittings and stuff like that, but I'll be right back. Yeah, so hopefully schedule permitting, he'll be able to zoom in. Like I said, we're still figuring out, but we're not taking hiatus. No, no, no. Wrestling don't stop. We don't stop. We don't stop. We'll still be here. We'll still be bringing it to you. Could be me. Could be me and someone else. We don't know that yet, but tune in next week. We'll be back. Yeah, we're figuring it out.

1:49:05Make sure you guys tune in every Monday because you can catch no contest wrestling. And make sure you have a good day. But not too good, because who the hell do you think you are? Bye, Ms. Parker. Bye, Ms. Parker.

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Angelo Dawkins and Montez Ford join the show to discuss their wrestling careers and how they’ve become one of the most popular tag team duos in WWE.  Dawkins and Ford talk how the name, “The Street Profits” came about, if and when they would ever go solo and fight one another, and why on November 2nd, they will be sworn enemies.O’Shea and TJ also give Montez a chance give his side of the story about how he had to get Mark Henry’s blessing to date Bianca Belair, as she made a surprise appearance during the interview.  Plus, the Street Profits discuss who which all-time tag teams they would want to fight in a match, and each of them choose their “Bar Fight” squad.  Additionally, O’Shea and TJ are joined by WWE Legends and Future Greats wrestler Shiloh Hill, who discusses his wrestling journey that took him from the gridiron to the ring.  Hill talks about how The Undertaker has become a mentor, how his computer science studies at Stanford made for an interesting hobby, and how he has gained such a huge social media following.  

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