No-Contest Wrestling: WWE SummerSlam Recap

4 Aug 2025 · 1 h 34 min · 26 chapters

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In short

WWE SummerSlam recap (two nights) with focus on CM Punk vs Gunther (World Heavyweight Championship), Seth Rollins’ Money in the Bank cash-in to win the title from Punk, John Cena vs Cody Rhodes (Cody wins; Cena’s last SummerSlam), and the return/impact of Brock Lesnar after the show.

Guests/backgrounds

TJ Jefferson (host; long-time wrestling fan; discusses being a “hater” and wrestling fandom habits). O’Shea Jackson Jr. (guest; appears as “Petty Guerrero,” a wrestling fan who frames his reactions as entertainment and credits Punk’s return). They also reference “Rich Eisen Show” involvement and a clip featuring Seth Rollins.

Key claims

Punk’s win over Gunther was a “Rocky IV”-style underdog moment, with Gunther’s bleeding changing the match’s momentum. Seth Rollins’ cash-in was a major “ruse/heist” moment; Seth faked injury and then unbuckled/dropped braces to attack Punk and win. Cena’s heel-to-face turn was an “audible” and included notable moments (e.g., pipe bomb flip). Brock Lesnar’s return signals “terror” and sets up future threats for Seth.

Notable examples

Punk’s “clobbering time” nod to Fantastic Four; Gunther’s “crimson mask” after bleeding; Seth dropping crutches/brace; Cena/Cody street-fight-style match with multiple finishers, stage elevator smoke, and Cena delivering an AA before Cody’s final cutter for the win.

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SummerSlam Excitement

0:04 to 0:33

Discussion about the anticipation and events surrounding WWE SummerSlam.

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SummerSlam Excitement

0:45 to 2:53

Discussion about the anticipation and events surrounding WWE SummerSlam.

“it's not depressed it's sad it's fear it's fear i uh i don't know if you're aware but Brock Lesnar's on the loose bro I guess I'm the heel that you love to hate O'Shea Jackson Jr.”

CM Punk vs. Gunther Recap

2:53 to 10:41

Detailed analysis of the match between CM Punk and Gunther at SummerSlam.

“We were wondering how it was going to play out, right?”

Seth Rollins' Shocking Cash-In

10:41 to 14:00

The hosts break down Seth Rollins' dramatic cash-in at SummerSlam.

“Maybe because they're controllable, obviously.”

Seth Rollins' Unforgettable Moment

14:00 to 17:41

Discuss the dramatic moment when Seth Rollins cashed in his Money in the Bank contract.

“and he's looking at Punk and just kind of yelling at him and Michael Cole reminds everybody, hey, Seth has, you know, a full year to cash this in.”

Conflicted Feelings About CM Punk

17:41 to 21:37

Exploring the host's complicated feelings about CM Punk and Seth Rollins' rivalry.

“Oh, but I do want to say, let me give credit to TJ Jefferson because TJ Jefferson put out a great point about Punk winning that World Heavyweight title.”

Seth Rollins on the Rich Eisen Show

21:37 to 24:26

Recap of Seth Rollins' appearance on the Rich Eisen Show and his thoughts about the recent events.

“That might have been the host of the Rich Eisen show.”

John Cena's Heel Turn and Its Aftermath

28:01 to 31:07

Explore the unexpected dynamics of John Cena's heel turn and its effects on wrestling fans.

“Let's talk about how we got to this position, Shea Jackson.”

Cody Rhodes' Entrance and the Stakes

31:31 to 37:18

Delve into the significance of Cody Rhodes' entrance at SummerSlam and the emotional weight it carried.

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The Match Breakdown: Cena vs. Cody

37:19 to 42:00

A detailed analysis of the match between John Cena and Cody Rhodes, highlighting key moments and emotional stakes.

“Singing the John Cena theme song that time is now and we were into it and a lot of people were texting us before we even saw the episode that we made it.”
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Cody vs. Cena: A Match for the Ages

42:00 to 44:39

A detailed recap and analysis of the match between Cody and Cena at SummerSlam.

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Passing of the Torch Moments

44:40 to 46:18

Discussion on the significance of passing the torch in wrestling and comparisons to past iconic moments.

“Maybe a little too many, you know, I'm kind of on the kickouts.”

Roman Reigns and the Old Guard

46:19 to 48:30

Analysis of Roman Reigns' journey and the comparisons to Cody and Cena's match dynamics.

“If you're mad that this person's always winning and they don't cheat, then what do you think is going to happen if all of a sudden they decide, oh, now I'm going to cheat?”

Brock Lesnar's Impact on WWE

48:31 to 51:14

Discussion on Brock Lesnar's return and implications for current WWE storylines.

“But yeah, so the great passing of the torch moment, they got to embrace.”

John Cena's Wrestlemania Legacy

51:15 to 53:44

Exploration of John Cena's role in WWE and his relationships with fellow wrestlers.

“I think they all kind of were training together.”

WWE SummerSlam Matches Recap

56:53 to 1:02:09

A detailed breakdown of key matches from WWE SummerSlam.

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Dominic Mysterio's Rise

1:02:09 to 1:09:53

Discussion on Dominic Mysterio's performance and storyline developments.

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WWE SummerSlam Match Analysis

1:10:01 to 1:11:21

Analyzing the U.S. Championship match and its execution.

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Women's Intercontinental Championship Recap

1:11:22 to 1:14:18

Discussion about Becky Lynch and Lyra's match dynamics and crowd reactions.

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Men's Tag Team Championship Breakdown

1:14:19 to 1:20:27

Exploring the chaotic TLC match and standout performances.

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Women's World Championship Highlights

1:20:28 to 1:23:14

Recapping Naomi's title defense and the match's thrilling moments.

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SummerSlam Overall Impressions

1:23:15 to 1:24:00

Final thoughts on SummerSlam, its impact, and future events.

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SummerSlam Highlights and Impressions

1:24:00 to 1:25:16

The hosts recap their thoughts on WWE SummerSlam and its notable outcomes.

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The Shield: Greatest Faction in Wrestling

1:25:16 to 1:32:08

A deep dive into why The Shield is considered the greatest faction in wrestling history based on their achievements and impact.

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Listener Engagement and Final Thoughts

1:32:08 to 1:32:43

The hosts invite listener feedback and share their excitement about future discussions.

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Listener Engagement and Final Thoughts

1:33:56 to 1:34:20

The hosts invite listener feedback and share their excitement about future discussions.

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0:01This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required. Compatibility and availability varies 18+.

0:32man um ladies and gentlemen welcome to uh another episode of the no contest wrestling podcast i'm uh tj i don't know who i am anymore you sound depressed yo it's not depressed it's sad it's fear it's fear i uh i don't know if you're aware but Brock Lesnar's on the loose bro I guess I'm the heel that you love to hate O'Shea Jackson Jr. A.K.A. Petty Guerrero Hey yo I ain't never afraid because me and Brock don't have no beef but I'm T-double-O-J-I-double-G 2-Jiggy T.J. Jefferson T.J. Do you know the feeling that I had last night. I called you immediately just to make sure you were okay. Oh, I was straight.

1:29I know, but it's just like when you have a match that we had with Cody and Cena, which we will get to, Cody and Cena, because that was my favorite John Cena match. That was what I feel like they wanted to do at WrestleMania 41. But as we've seen through documentaries and other things that those plans got changed. Fiend, fiend, fiend, fiend, fiend, fiend. But man, just when I thought, just when you thought things were safe, just when you thought it was safe to go to the movie theaters, Triple H takes that sledgehammer that we know and love and cracked us all across the head. And when you heard that guitar riff, Brock Lesnar is back.

2:26Brock Lesnar is back. And we're going to get to all the things that we think that means and all that. But first, TJ, I do want to talk about the main events that we saw at SummerSlam before we get there. Let's do night one first because I know you chose to put this disgusting briefcase in the middle. Listen, disgusting. SummerSlam, two nights. We were wondering how it was going to play out, right? First time ever. Yeah. Two nights. A little mini mania. A little mini mania. But I think that's disrespectful because SummerSlam is its own entity that it shouldn't be a mini anything. I'm talking about from the two-night perspective.

3:07It's the biggest party of the summer. Yeah. And, you know, traditionally some great moments, great matches have happened throughout the years. And night one was no different. You know, that main event. let's just get to that like you said we had the ring henna row gunta the ring henna row by the way that's gunta with an a not a not an er because we don't do that around here there you go versus cm punk for the world heavyweight championship man let's talk about it cm punk comes out little little package plays wwe's world-graded packages right then the music hits yeah and then CM Punk comes out looking like the fifth member of the Fantastic Four.

3:52Did people pick up on that? That light blue color scheme? With the white top. Yeah, man. Definitely. And you said something that literally I went, yeah. Why? Tell them what you told me. Yeah, because I, how, and we don't know the workings or what went into this on whether or not a call was made or not. how does there not a fantastic four at with CM Punk, right? He has been screaming. It's clobbering time for years. Fantastic four is coming out and in its biggest package that we've seen delivered for a fantastic four film. And we don't get a type of 15 second commercial, not a little funny thing with him and the thing.

4:43It's kind of a missed opportunity. because I'm sure there might be a lot of wrestling fans too that don't even know that it's clobbering time. It's something that my man Ben Grimm, a.k.a. the thing from the Fantastic Four, that was his saying, right? And I bet you a lot of wrestling fans probably don't even realize that. Yeah. And so, yeah, I just, I'm glad that, you know, this was kind of a little nod to it. But yeah, man, Punk, I was trying to get you some money, man. Some extra Skrillaw. Yeah, yeah. But they put on a great match. I was definitely entertained. Gunther still looked strong. Always.

5:22Always. You know, and I don't know what Punk's chest tattoos said before, but them shits are scrabbled right now. It says thwack right now. That's what his chest is saying. Absolutely. And, yeah, he, man, he went through it. You know, he went through it. They took their time with this match. It was a fast pace. It's a storytelling type of, you know, the underdog overcoming David versus Goliath type situation. Where's the C.M. Punk in the underdog? I know, but like, Gunther's a bad man. Shut your mouth. That's the man, bro. And, yeah, it delivered. And there was a tweet I put out. You know, you got any details about the match before I get into my tweets?

6:04Well, you know, just the fact that, you know, when Gunther starts chopping, flesh gets bleeding. Yeah, man. Starts to bleeding, right? So that was, you know, his chest, like you said, was tore up. Tore up. You know, I like the match. I feel like maybe, I don't know, I feel like maybe there was a little something that I was missing, and I don't know what it was. And I think that just might be nitpicking a little bit. So I won't nitpick. But overall, I like the match. I think it told a great story how CM Punk can overcome this monster. Yeah. Who we've seen, you know, gun-ta-a. With an A. You know, he's taken a loss or two, but the dude's been champion, I think.

6:45Wade Barrett or Michael Cole said, I think 85 % of the time he's been in WWE, he's held gold. Like, that is crazy. So that right there, that's a made man, right? That's a guy whose main event. That's a guy who's always on the top of the card. And that's a guy who's usually toting around championship gold. So, you know, he's an obstacle to climb. And that's what Punk had to do. Absolutely. And, you know, with him having that amazing, you know, just batting average, I guess that's what you call it. And Punk, a little long in the tooth. It does make him have to overcome something. And he did. I loved the, just the finish of the match felt like that's what you need to put Gunther down.

7:36Even him showing color. So, you know what that reminded me of? Rocky IV. Rocky IV. Remember Drago was this unbeatable force. He's definitely like Gunther. And then Rocky makes him bleed. Yeah. And when Gunther started bleeding, the panic looked on this man's face. It was like he went from being an unbeatable machine to like he was human. Yeah. And you could see it on his face. Like he took that hit over the announce table, comes back in the ring, or he raises up from behind the announce table and to quote Gorilla Monsoon, his face was a crimson mask. And then Gunther looked shook. And we, I don't know how many times we've truly seen Gunther.

8:19And I said he are. Gunther shook. But the blood, man, the blood on his face, you could tell it was almost like he wanted to wave the match off because he didn't know how to respond, how to react by, what was it? It was a movie that says he made me bleed my own blood. I can't remember what that was. Yeah, what is that? But yeah, man, and it was like, it's dodgeball. Dodgeball. Thank you, Jay. That's our audio guy, Jay Felly, in the back. Yeah, he's the man, by the way. Yeah, he's a Raider fan, so I don't really got no beef with Raider fans. I'm afraid of most of them, to be honest with you. Yeah, they're wild.

8:54I was raised by one. But yeah, man. I wouldn't recommend it. And it was like, now you see the tide has just turned. Yeah. Because this monster, who we felt had no deficiencies in his game, No holes. All of a sudden, him bleeding his own blood through his whole game. And that's how you can tell a story with color. It's not something that happens every match. It's just that right there, you just hit the nail on the head, how it makes the character and the moment and the match change. The tables have turned. The ties have changed. Because he had the man. He was giving Punk the business. the business without a suit and tie and it turned around punk getting the victory having that moment in the ring holding the title the first time he had the big boy since he was back took what two three gts's to get it done yeah back to back too which was kind of hard and it was dope man that was that moment he gets the three yeah the music hits the crowd just goes nuts right because CM Punk.

10:04And I said this to CM Punk on this podcast. He sat over here. I said, your name rings bells like Sunday at 12 o 'clock. People for years, what, 10 years chanted his name when he was gone. Now he's back. And to see him get that belt back to being the main event, which is something he always wanted and felt he deserved, and he did. It was cool. It really was. And then when he finally took a hold of this belt, man, it was just like you could see relief, man. And you could see everything that he wanted all those years kind of come to fruition in that moment. And it was awesome. It was an awesome moment.

10:40And wrestling does moments like that better than any other sport. Maybe because they're controllable, obviously. You can't really control other sports, what goes on. But those type of moments, man, wrestling is just. I'll tell you one thing. The NBA, we're controlling that draft lottery. Listen, listen. I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying it's a crazy coincidence. We're not here for all that. That's all I'm saying. It's crazy coincidences. But anyway. So, you know, now the, you know, the card's over, man. What a great night one. Fireworks going off. Punk's sitting there with the belt. I don't know if fireworks went off or not, but Punk's sitting there with the belt.

11:15And it all is good. And then you hear, burn it down. Burn it down.

11:25And then the place erupts. hey hey i don't know if you remember don but i requested that you uh you give me some sensor bleeps uh i'm gonna need d-low ready at the helm uh that song all right i hate that song that song is stupid make sure we bleep this uh yeah bleep it all um i really don't give a about nothing after that song drops the crowd is stupid for singing the song the song should change all right i can't stand it um to the people of davenport iowa i apologize because i called all of you terrible things and y 'all didn't deserve it it was really to one guy i really don't give a about the chicago bears right now uh and i'm a i'm a caleb williams guy fight on but like i could give a right now and uh yeah i don't give a so yeah you you could keep going But no, no, during the during when Punk was celebrating, I tweeted, cut the PLE off.

12:32Please stop. Please cut the PLE off. Get out the ring. Anything, because I knew it's going to hurt if I hear burn it down and I heard it. And it was so annoying. And I noticed your boy, TJ, because you worked with him and you did all these things on the Rich Eyes and show. and y 'all, you know, you high-fived and drank Yoo-Hoo together or whatever the hell. I don't give a damn. You are really in your feelings, man. And you've been watching wrestling for long enough to know that getting in your feelings is not the way to go. Look, Seth Rollins pulled the wool over all of our eyes. You know, he pulled the wool over our eyes.

13:15And I got to be honest with you, I don't know if it was even necessary because a money in the bank cash-in is always a shock, right? No matter when it happens, no matter who it happens to, it always takes place when the champion is beat down and at their weakest and most vulnerable, when that opponent's music will hit and they'll come down and cash-in. We've seen it, you know, dozens of times. So I don't even necessarily understand why faking the knee injury was necessary. But look, at the end of the day, you know, 20 years from now, when they look back at this moment, it's going to be that much bigger because Seth does come out with Paul Heyman with the Money in the Bank briefcase and he's got the crutches and he's got his brace and he's looking at Punk and just kind of yelling at him and Michael Cole reminds everybody, hey, Seth has, you know, a full year to cash this in.

14:07So you're thinking, all right, yeah, he's just coming out there letting Punk know what time it is and he hasn't forgotten. And then he turns around, he walks away, and then he stops. And at that moment, you kind of go, whoa. and then much like Gene Wilder and Willy Wonka when he makes his return and he's walking towards the group of people limping and all of a sudden he stops and does a front flip and pops up. That's what Seth Rollins does. He drops his canes. He walks. He unbuckles the leg brace, drops it, and it is on and people lost their mind. It was unbelievable and I know you're mad and you're in your feelings.

14:48I can't help you there. I tried to talk this man off the ledge. I don't know what to tell him. It was a great moment in wrestling, whether you like the outcome or not. He runs to the ring, beats down Punk with the briefcase, hands Jessica Carr the briefcase, she rings the bell, curb stomp, one, two, three, and new. And got a new world heavyweight champion. Seth freaking Rollins look at you just basking in it I'm not basking because here's the deal happy I'm not and it was nice while it lasted that WWE and it was for five for five sorry that's another one D-Lo you gotta bleep out look at them cracking jokes and then Seth SummerSlam Rollins look for five minutes it was a great championship run and here's the deal you're saying I love it I'm very conflicted as well I'm a CM Punk fan I've been a CM Punk fan.

15:44The matter of fact, CM Punk was the first man to sit in this chair, and he put us on the map. Look at them. Looking like they got caught at a Coldplay concert. Right? Look at them. Well, first of all, you know that's why he did that, right? Yeah, bro. I mean, come on. My God. Get a room. Look. Oh, my. That's a dope picture. You can't front on that. No, I can front on whatever the hell I want. That's why they gave me a show. Is that what's going to be the whole time? Yeah, that's what's going to be. You know what? Give me this camera. Give me this camera right here. Let me get this camera right here.

16:13Let me just say, I'm sure, Colby, I'm sure you're a great guy. Seth Rollins, the character. I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you because in my adult life, I have become wiser as a wrestling fan. I know what I'm looking at. I know the ins and outs and the workings of things that happen behind the curtain. so I have a different understanding of the direction of things of the business and I want to thank you because for the first time since I was a young child I have somebody that I hate I hate you Seth Rollins Colby's sure you're a great guy but Seth Rollins the character for the first time in a long time you have a visceral reaction out of me and that is what it's all about so thank you for bringing me back because i haven't been a hater in a long time and i promise you i will hate on you any chance that i get until you're a guest on the no contest wrestling podcast where i could tell you to your face i hate your guts i told kurt angle i told chris jericho couldn't stand him couldn't stand him that's because they good they job you're great at your job because I hate your guts.

17:36God bless you. That was nice. I said something good. Are you done? Hell no. Is he done? Do he got the title? Oh, but I do want to say, let me give credit to TJ Jefferson because TJ Jefferson put out a great point about Punk winning that World Heavyweight title. He is the first person to win a WWE title, especially of that magnitude, after winning the AEW title. Well, we have to be more specific than that because that's technically not true. AEW, we're talking world title. Because someone's going to bring up Ricky St. Because I said the AEW title, guys. So you got to say world title because someone will get on there and hit you with semantics.

18:22You know that. I don't even know what I was going to say after that because I fell asleep listening to you. I don't know why you're so mad. Do I have to get the cape? Do I have to get the cape so you can be Superman? What? You know what I told you on the phone. You know what I told you on the phone, bro. Don't get me. About to call me a slur again. Bro, it was going real, boy. Listen. Let me tell you something, brother. Here's the deal, though. This moment just captivated social media, as of course it is. And you had some tweets that, you know, showed that you may have been crashing out a little bit.

18:56Don Bowie, do we have any of the Shane's stuff? Yep. Yep. L-M-F-A-O-O-O-O. Before then is a long F-word. I hate wrestling. Seth Rollins just pump fake the bleep out of me. Okay, there's one. My man O'Shea. My man O'Shea was going through it that night. Yeah, bro. I mean, I give, I know what I'm looking at. I give credit where credit is due. But me just being a wrestling fan, I got somebody to boo with all of my heart. And you said earlier, like, you're going back to being a hater. When did you ever stop being a hater? No, before it was jokes. Now it's real. I don't know, man, because you was hating this morning.

19:33I mean, maybe you did something for me to hate on. Not on me. Okay, for sure. Yeah, I'm just saying, just in general, sometimes you be hating. I mean, I come from a rap family, all right? It ain't all nice all the time. I was a baby on a tour bus. Do you know what it's like being on a tour bus full of rappers? They don't give compliments. Ain't no good nights, all right? It's hard out there. I am a wrestling fan and a rap baby. be all i can do is talk shit it's my love language if i don't talk mess about you i don't care about you so take that as you may but i just want to talk about how amazing pro wrestling is because i had a full circle moment when seth cashed in by the way seth is king of the cash ins king of the cash ins bro yeah but i had a moment because it was a full circle moment because cm punk getting cashed in on reminded me of our first episode when I told him this.

20:30Don, do you mind playing that clip? I couldn't stand you when you cashed in on Jeff Hardy. Good. That was a desired result. It was such a level of aggravation. I was just like, of course, this is the dumbest rule. This briefcase needs to be out of here. Everything, dude. I couldn't hated you guys. You're chill now. You're a good dude. How funny is that? And it happened to you again. I hated him for cashing in on Jeff. And now I hate that he got cashed in on. So, Seth, it's all love, but I hate you. And you said when he comes on no contest, the way you talk about him, I don't think we're ever going to get Seth Rollins to come on no contest because why would he?

21:15I wouldn't come on and have the host just disparage and disrespect me the way you have. So I ain't disrespecting him. So I don't know if we're ever going to get Seth Rollins, people. It might have to be TJ and Seth Rollins. But speaking of Seth Rollins, we had to know. You know someone who maybe, let me spit that out, right, pause, was a little more upset than you? You know who that was? That might have been. That pause was great. That might have been the host of the Rich Eisen show. Rich Eisen, because, you know, Rich isn't into the wrestling like we are, right? Rich don't understand. And so you can understand that Rich was a little bit confused after getting a phone call saying, yes, that's her.

21:57He's still coming to host the show. Yeah. And then what happened? So we had Seth Rollins zoom into the Rich Eisen show this afternoon. This is exclusive, baby. We got this before Raw. Ooh. And Seth had some stuff to say. So, Dawn, let's roll that. I wish I could be there so you guys could touch this. You guys played an integral role. in this I think they're calling it the ruse of the century. You were limping around like you were limping around here. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. Limping around on those crutches for three weeks was excruciating. That was painful because not only did I go and do your show for a few days I went to the gym on the crutches.

22:44I took my daughter down to Manhattan Beach for some ice cream on the crutches I dropped her off at preschool on the crutches. I went to a nice steak dinner with my wife and Bianca Belair and Montez Ford with crutches. I did it all on crutches. And I'm telling you, it was excruciating. The crutches alone were painful. I thought I was going to get a shoulder injury, a real one. As someone who sat here and believed in the ruse, who got up and walked your crutches to you when I thought you were hurt. You walked his crutches, Sue? I got up and made sure you didn't have it. crutches? TJ can't make me.

23:20I felt I was obligated because the knee was hurt. I felt like his crutches were a distance from him. So after each show, I went and grabbed his crutches. All of the folks out there who played a small role, the TJs who handed me the crutches and those who opened doors and held open doors and made the lady who pushed me in the wheelchair at the airport. A small role in this wonderful endeavor. Your additions are appreciated. Thank you. From the world champion, from me to you, thank you. Guys, we did it. This is for the people. Not just me. It's for the people. And no matter how bad I feel, I mean, it can't be anything compared to CM Punk.

24:04So I get it. You know what I'm saying? I get it. Hey, karma's a B-word, man. Karma's a B-word. Come back to get you. Now, before you go off... God, I hate how cool he is. Before you go off, I hope everyone noticed that. You picked up on that. That was some no contest wrestling exclusive video of Seth Rollins hobbling around this studio with the brace and crutches. I held on to this just because I figured I had to get a shot just, you know, because why not? I had to get that right. And now look at it. It shows you how committed this man. First of all, the Jordan 11 lows, black on black. Those were fire that he had on.

24:41King Troy really set up his outfit there. But yeah, and then it came into play. So I know you're upset a little bit, but that's no contest exclusive, man. Listen, you know, that is going to get picked up everywhere. That's what I'm talking about, TJ. That's why you the best tag team partner I could ever ask for. And I my hate for him is just nothing but respect. It's nothing but respect because you got me. You got me to believe. You got me to hate again. And so it's a... John Cena and Cody. John Cena and Cody. Congratulations to the new world heavyweight champion, Seth Rollins. And congratulations to CM Punk, because you won.

25:24And CM Punk, congratulations to you. I can't wait for Raw tonight. We're going to see. Seth told us. And you can look for the longer clip on our YouTube page. That's what she said. But he said just to watch. Watch Raw tonight. We're going to get some answers. He didn't give us all the answers. But I think they're going to come tonight. So I'm looking forward to make sure you don't miss Raw on Netflix tonight. Can't wait for Raw tonight. But anyway, bigger part. Yeah. No contest wrestling. What about proxy helped play a part in whether they call it the heist of the summer and the ruse, the ruse of the summer.

26:02The biggest storyline of the summer. we, by proxy you, because I was there, and me and you, we had a part in that, man. So you gotta look at it like that. Put your personal feelings aside, and look at this as no contest wrestling business. Oh, no, no. It's not personal. It's all for entertainment. But man, you good at getting me to be all for entertainment. Now, by the way, his daughter named Rue, right? Rue! That's kind of hard. Faux letters. One word. Rue. but okay now also by the way real quick he told rue that daddy had to pretend boo-boo and not to tell anybody you know what she did she went and told a preschool teacher miss joy miss joy knew miss joy knew because rue told her and then rue came back and told her dad that she told miss joy and was basically like nana boo-boo nana boo-boo i told miss joy your secret now seth was worried What if Miss Joy says something?

27:00What if the Rich Eisen Show says something? We ain't breaking the news. No, man, we all for the business. So, yeah, check out the full video. It'll be on the Rich Eisen Show YouTube page along with all of our other videos. Right now, O 'Reilly Auto Parts gets you back to savings. Pick up select Royal Purple Fuel System additives. Buy one, get one free. Plus, receive four times O rewards points. Stop by your local O 'Reilly Auto Parts store or shop online at OReillyAuto.com. Rich Eisen here. We talk a lot about battles in sports. Teams battling through adversity, athletes fighting for every yard.

27:32The toughest warriors I've ever seen, though, aren't on the field. They're kids fighting cancer. They're families standing beside them. Doctors, nurses, caregivers. That's why I'm proud to support Hyundai Hope on Wheels. For over 28 years, they've helped fund pediatric cancer research, raising more than$303 million and supporting over 40 ,000 children. Learn more and donate at HyundaiUSA.com backslash Hope on Wheels. So we had the superhero fight of the century. Super Cody versus Super Cena. Man. Let's talk about how we got to this position, Shea Jackson. All of a sudden, Friday comes around. John Cena's in the mic.

28:08Yeah. John Cena was a heel. Yeah. 15 minutes later. Sure enough. John Cena ain't a heel no more. Bullshit.

28:19What was the point then, bro? What was the point of turning John Cena heel, right? Have him do heelish things for a few months. Make us have to watch Raw at like 2 in the afternoon because they was all over in Europe. Remember how that all started, right? We were trying to watch Raw while we were doing the podcast. It was kind of fun. It was kind of fun. I'm not going to lie. But then just to have him turn baby face on a random Friday and it stuck. I was like, oh, yeah, he's just pulling the wool. Everybody's like, he wasn't. He wasn't. And, you know, I'll say this about the John Cena heel run because, like I said, through Unreal and a number of other things, we found out that it was a kind of an audible situation called for John to turn and all the things that went into it.

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29:10I know people like to bag on it. People like to get on that run. And it wasn't all good. I'm not here to make you think that it was. But it has some funny moments. For sure. Bro, John, when he got at Punk and he flipped the pipe bomb on him, amazing. Night one with that kid in the red T-shirt. Remember? Yeah, that was hilarious. That poor little kid was a meme forever. He was just sitting there like, what? Yeah, man. And he had some hilarious moments. So, like, you know, I will cherish those. Yeah. But we ain't need Travis Scott. Fiend. Fiend. And, you know, I'm not trying to be a hater, but, like, we probably didn't even need it.

29:53Like, we didn't need it. There was a number of things that changed that made this thing go the way that it did. But it did have its highlight moments. So I do want to acknowledge those moments. And he did something that we didn't think he'd ever do, which is turn hill, which should satisfy people. It might not have been the greatest hill run ever, especially when he ended. But people wanted it. You got to see it, and it makes you wonder what happens if it would have occurred earlier in his career. And also, if he didn't do that, I don't know if he gets 17. Good point. I don't know if he gets 17.

30:27He did what he had to do. Yeah, exactly. And now he's the record holder until some BS that I'm sure everybody will hate happens later on in the future. Yeah, but that's going to be like 25 years down the line. Yeah, man. And for someone to get 17. Will we still be doing no contest? I had to think the other day, I'm going to be doing this every week for the rest of my life. More than likely, because I ain't got nothing else to do on my days. Yeah, like what am I going to do? Be an actor? You know what I mean? As long as the Rich Eisen Show, and by the way, I just want to say this. I'm going to break this up real quick.

30:57Do it. Rich Eisen Show is moving to ESPN platform. What? So you will be able to catch No Contest Wrestling on ESPN Podcast. Now, you go to the ESPN app. Right. You hit all podcasts, not yet, in September. There should be a Rich Eyes and Show link there. And eventually we'll be under that link. So you can go ahead and listen and make sure you subscribe. And you can watch no contest along with all the other Rich Eyes and Show pods, including Overreaction Monday and everything else. The Jim Jackson, everything else we got going on. But Chris Brockman and I looked yesterday. There is no other wrestling pod on ESPN.

31:39How about that? We will be the first wrestling pod on the ESPN app. We the ones. We the ones. And you know what? Not even when you're in the game, folks. I mean, like, I couldn't imagine being a hater like yourself. You know who I'm talking to. Not the ones that love us, but you know who I'm talking to. You know, I hear we got our platform for the wrong reasons sometimes, DJ. That was like now just to just two guys, two fans of wrestling, you know. Yeah. Now, all of a sudden, you got to call us ESPNCW, baby. And I know that hurt. I know it hurt. But like, I mean, most people loving it. You know, he's bringing up a point.

32:21You know, we for some reason now, a bunch of the haters are kind of coming into the comments. And one guy told us that we have our platform for the wrong reasons. And normally I don't get annoyed or affected. but like that comment in particular kind of for the wrong reasons, because we want to unite wrestling fans. We want to sit through the IWC BS. We want to bring you interviews with talent that you may not have heard or seen of before. We want to help new people like the Nikki Blackhearts get her name out there. We want to get the people like Roxanne Perez who don't always get on podcasts. We want to get them out there in addition to the big stars like CM Punk and James.

32:59So, so anyway, I just wanted to say that that annoyed me, but I'm going to dust it off my shoulder and just say. So anyway, that was an aside. We brought up ESPN. Let's get back to night two. I'm back in the mouse's house, baby. John Cena. So now John Cena gets on the mic and he basically says, look, I had people on my side who are no longer on my side. Under the bus. If. Under the bus. If. If. I'm sorry. If. I wanted to go back and forth, but you ain't I didn't know bro we didn't text before well if you don't ever answer your phone that's a fact I be acting bro I'm busy so now we get and I'm wondering as he's saying this I'm like wait a minute is this dude really turning baby face right now and then he says I didn't want to end wrestling I didn't want to I just wanted to make sure you guys didn't forget about me I was like what kind of corny shit is this what are you talking about and then Cody comes out She's like, okay, now this is when Rock or Travis Scott, someone comes out, they're going to bust Cody with white meat, and the scene's going to be like, ah, psych.

34:11And no, they came out, had a beer together, shook hands. Let John talk for another nine minutes. Cody didn't really say anything. Didn't say nothing. And then it was like, hold on, Cody, where'd this beer come from? Well, you saw Cody Winton. Yeah, I've never seen you do the Stone Cold. Give me two of them. Where'd this beer come from? Stone Cold just would have caught him. Yeah, he would have caught him. He had to go. By the way, can we talk about that dude who has that arm? Who would be throwing him beers? Oh, by the way, he should be in the NFL. His completion percentage is 80, I'd say 92%.

34:38Yeah, like, are you kidding? But yeah, so he has those beers. Whose beers were those? You know whose beers. Stop it. No, I'm not getting into that again, man. I already got people talking about it. So you're telling me Cody and John Cena had a moment where they were drinking Hulk Hogan's beer? Let's move on past that. So yeah, so Friday night, we're all wondering, like, what is going on? Yeah. Okay, so Saturday, this is, it's going to go down. Here comes Saturday. Cody gets the entrance. New mask. I'm sorry, Sunday. Yeah, the helmet. Cody gets the entrance with different, I guess, different lines at his dad, the great American Justin Rhodes, that said, which I didn't really pick up on because it wasn't seemed like his voice.

35:21It sounded like it was like AI generated or something, but Cody comes out with the mask. Did you notice how the mask was like cracked? And it looked like it had been through the mask. If you look back on it, it looked like it had been through some stuff. I didn't know if there was any significance to that or not, but he comes in, he does his entrance and then we get the John Cena. But I want to say something about Cody's entrance because when I heard, when I saw him having the dusty quotes in the beginning, I said, Oh, he not losing. Oh yeah. He's like, bro, he's about to walk down this ramp crying.

35:57Like, you put Dusty on it with all this. Now, I remember at WrestleMania 40, freezing my ass off, when I seen Cody come out with that mask, I was like, oh, Roman, it's a wrap, bro. And, you know, they gave him the new mask, came out with the Dusty quotes and all that. I was like, yo, Cody, Cody might do it. Cody's about to do it right now. Text Chris Van Vliet. You were right. And Cody comes down the ramp. But when he rubbed the ring, when he got to the center of the ring and he looked up and he almost had tears in his eyes, that's when I was like, it's either going to go real, real good or real, real bad.

36:39But now that I know that the outcome he knew, like I'm about to do this for pops. And when you think about Cody and his dad and you know what the city of New York kind of meant for that, you know, with his dad, Madison Square Garden. It wasn't the garden, but it was still in New York. It was too monumental of a moment and too personal. Cody was going to get this victory. And then John came out, and at first it was the black and white, but then he added a little color, TJ. And, you know, much like episode two of Unreal, with about 10 minutes left in the episode, Cena comes out for the World Rumble, and the crowd shot goes to the two of us.

37:21Yeah. Singing the John Cena theme song that time is now and we were into it and a lot of people were texting us before we even saw the episode that we made it. I mean, we're a hot commodity to you guys. We're a hot commodity. But listen, so another thing that kind of made me kind of interested on Friday with Cena's promo was remember he said, we're going to do a street fight. Remember and essentially he was like, you wanted this. Now what did that mean? Because I took it two ways. I'm like, alright, he's either telling him, we're going to do a street fight because you wanted it, and that's going to give me a reason to be able to cheat, have some outside interference, or is it because he wanted to set the seed or plant the seeds?

38:02Like, oh, you wanted a street fight. And then it turns out Cody turns heel or something. And that's why he wanted a street fight. Bro, Cody has some glimpses. Right? So it's like, you didn't know, which again, something only wrestling can do, man, because now I'm like, what did that mean? You know, and so they get into the ring. You know, they're squaring up. Tyrese Halliburton there, Indiana Pacers guard. Of course, you know, he's recovering from Achilles surgery. I don't know who to believe is hurt. Anytime I see crutches now, I'm just like, we're pretty sure Halliburton wouldn't have given up an NBA title, so I'm pretty sure that injury is injured.

38:35Everything's wrestling, TJ. But, you know, Cena takes Tyrese Halliburton's crutches, hits Cody with him. You know, they were going at it, man. They were going at it. There was a lot of moments. Cody hitting the pile driver. And the crowd chanting, you can't do that. But even more so, how about Cena taking the ring steps that he threw into the ring and then just chucking him at Cody and hitting him with it? I was like, for sure, Cody's going to just duck or get out of the way. No, he took it. He took it. They were going at it so, there were so many times where you were like, all right, this is the finish.

39:12All right, this is the finish. I'm talking like I lost count of how many attitude adjustments there were lost count of how many crossroads there were multiples and Cody taking the rope taking the rope apart now you're thinking alright this is it Cody straight uphill the crowd's gonna turn Anakin Skywalker and then he had that feeling those moments he hit him he didn't want to do it it was written like the Rude Boys it was written all over his face he didn't have to say a word stop getting up you know and he did yeah he didn't want to do it but when john had said you wanted this that could also mean you want this belt yeah and you're gonna have to do everything in your power to take this from you yeah and so cody you know the turn into randy orton he had voices in his head you can see and it was visual it was this was tearing him apart but he wanted this so he had to do what he had to do and there were so many moments there were so many heel moments that cody was doing the standing over john while he's trying to get up you thinking like maybe he's gonna you know stomp him in the head or anything like that cody's sitting in the corner he there was a point where he backed up into the into the turnbuckle and i thought he was gonna hit a randy orton punt and it it's it was those flashes where you're like man is he is he about to finally go homelander and no it was just this is what i have to do to put this guy down and when the crowd there was a point where cody hit the the triple crossroads and that's usually the sign of like it's over and john kicked out when the crowd started chanting super cena super cena almost threw up tj i started having the flashbacks of that i had as a child of super cena because you weren't a big unlike your brother Sharif you weren't a member of the C Nation yeah you were not not me okay kiss my ass I was not down with it and so I was like yeah you know there's no way he gets past this because you know on here on the no contest wrestling podcast I told you that Chris Van Vliet gave me some Kool-Aid that I took a sip out of and I believed him when he said he thinks that Cody's gonna win it and I said the only way that John's gonna win is if we hear and so So I was hoping that it didn't go through and they continued to battle on.

41:39I remember the attitude adjustment through the Spanish announced table. By the way, the cleanest attitude adjustment through that table. He landed on his feet the whole nine. Very smooth. Kept Cody safe. Whole nine. And then, you know, John spiked him in the head with a microphone at one point. Which is hilarious to hear through the arena, I'm sure. Kenta Kobashi shot up with the guillotine leg drop from the top rope. That was smooth, too. I thought that was it. I thought that was it. It was over. Because he hit that so nice. Not super Cody. Oh, man. Cody won't stay down, bro. He won't stay down, you know?

42:12And then, you know, the Slim Jim table gets pulled out. As they always should. As they always should. As they always should. You know? He started snapping to his table. At one point, who threw the drink? Was Cody threw a drink and seen his face? They fought through the crowd, you know? And then they go under the stage. Yes. and you're like, oh, what's going to happen? That's when you knew for a thousand percent fact that once they went into that stage, you were going to hear you were going to hear or you were going to hear fiend. They mad at him. The smoke starts to come from the stage. By the way, both nights you saw that little square right there in the middle of the stage.

42:54You knew something was there. That was Cody's elevator. All of a sudden, smoke starts to come out and the elevator starts to rise and the light's bright, so you can't really see it first. And it's Cena with Cody on his shoulders. Yeah. And he's sitting there and he holds him up. And Cena gives Cody an AA, which I'm telling you was so disrespectful. He tossed that man just like trash. Yeah. Like if he had hit every AA. My problem with the AA over all these years was like, it's a fireman's carry. How's it putting people out? if he had used the viciousness and the velocity on everybody the way he just chucked like a heavy bag of trash so yeah he put him down and you're thinking okay this is it because you can't get up from that type of attitude I love the part where like John goes to drag Cody and you can see him thinking like man that's gonna hurt if I drag him all that way then he's like damn I'm really have to carry this dude all the way to the ring and we know John, one of the strongest to ever be in the square circle.

44:01Boy, he has some grimace on that face. All the way down to that ring. A little winded. A little winded. Well, you know, he's been putting in work. Hell yeah. That was his most... I would say that that was the most action he's had in the match. He went all out for it. Slim Jim table in the middle of the ring. Hits the Cody cutter. A rough looking Cody cutter, but it It made it look like it would really put you down. And then, yeah, man, Cody ends up getting the victory. It was, I'm sure Dave Meltzer gives it two and a half stars, but I thought it was a five-star match. I loved it. It was an incredible match.

44:42Maybe a little too many, you know, I'm kind of on the kickouts. But look, it's John Cena's last SummerSlam, right? Go for it. You're not going to see Cena. And unlike a lot of people come back, I believe, to quote Morgan Freeman on the Rich Eisen show, I believe him. Okay, I believe he ain't coming back. Okay. So, fella, if you got that, you can pop that in at any moment. I believed him. I believed him. So, this is it. So, he went out. Yeah. He went out. He went into his bag. A few moves he hadn't seen. You know, he and Cody just, bravo, man. I can't say enough about it. It was beautiful. It reminded me of Rock Hogan.

45:27It reminded me of Rock versus Hogan. How that felt. Because you remember that Toronto crowd was all behind Hogan. And then it was like 50-50 for Rock. But then by the end of it, everybody was cheering Rock. And them raising each other's arms. It felt like that moment that I felt as a kid watching Rock Hogan. and you know we never we we haven't had really another moment like that since we were waiting for rock versus roman for so long yeah but it just never happened it's gonna happen at this point yeah but like 54 it would have had it would have how rock hogan happened the roman rock thing i felt like would have been the same thing but that that passing of the torch match never happened so this right here this cody cena yeah the old guard to the new guard it happened here it was beautiful it was great Cody much like when Rock after that second WrestleMania Cena wins the match they go out the ramp and Rock gives them the yeah yeah Roman Roman never got to have that passing of the torch I would disagree with you in a sense because if you remember at one point Undertaker and Roman in the ring together years ago you remember this and Undertaker looked at Roman and then you could tell Roman got emotional what was written on his face taps him on the shorty goes this is your yard now you remember that like to me that was the old guard passing of the torch even though it wasn't seeing a rock it was taker and he told roman this is your yard and you could see on roman's face like he almost melted right you know so i feel like he did kind of get that that passing of the torch moment from taker i just feel like i mean with the taker yeah but i like they still hated roman like cody rock beating hogan they hated rock during the match by the end of the match they loved him Cody vs Cena Cody was getting booed bro and then by the end they loved him because it just felt like it happened I feel like Roman at that time when he was still fighting an upward battle yeah exactly and until he gave him something to boo now they love him you want to boo me alright that's always been my feeling when fans want a wrestler a baby face who's been dominant when they clamor for him to go Hill, much like Cena.

47:51My point is always this. If you're mad that this person's always winning and they don't cheat, then what do you think is going to happen if all of a sudden they decide, oh, now I'm going to cheat? You think all of a sudden they're going to start losing? No. You see what happened. He took Roman Runners in a four-year epic journey because you wanted him to turn Hill so bad, and then you got what you wanted, and a lot of you got mad. But you asked for it. Yeah, you asked for it. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't going to go heel, but you asked for it and you see what happened. And then all of a sudden people start complaining.

48:22Oh, he's getting interference from Jey Uso. He's getting interference. Well, yeah, because he's a heel and that's what he'll do. And that's what you wanted to shut your mouth. Right. Okay. Nice. Hey, by the way, acknowledge him. Goddamn right. But yeah, so the great passing of the torch moment, they got to embrace. Cody gives John the floor as he should. He walks away and knew. And it's love, man. It's love. And it all seems fine and dandy and everything's coming up roses. And then, like we said at the beginning of this pod almost an hour ago, that guitar riff, that music. Oh, my God. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

49:01And I don't care what. And look, we understand, right, there is some type of litigation going on. We understand there is a lawsuit. Neither one of us are lawyers. This is not the law offices of NCW, Jackson and Jefferson. And so I don't really want to comment too much on things that I'm not an expert on when it comes to this case is you don't either. We understand people are going to be in their feelings about Brock Lesnar. You're absolutely right. Either way, it's your right. We're not here to talk about the cards. Someone's right or someone's wrong. It's just that this is Brock Lesnar, bro. I mean, our show is all about talking about what we see on a television show.

49:46And right now what I see is Brock Lesnar, and I'm supposed to talk about as a fan what I think that means for the television show. It means terror. Yeah. Especially for your boy Seth Rollins walking around with Paul Heyman. You don't think Paul Heyman is a little nervous? He's a little like, whoa, hold on. Wait, Roman and Brock are back? First of all, clearly Seth ain't Brock's object right now. He's not who he's looking at. He's looking at John Cena. Let me tell you, bro. There is a pit bull loose in the school. All right? There is a bull in the China shop. But if you also realize Seth Rollins is one of the few people who can say he's got a winning record against Brock Lesnar.

50:22Yeah, and that pisses Brock Lesnar off. That's fine, though. That's fine. It's all right. Look. Yeah. Look, I ain't got to burn it down. I'll burn this whole shit down. The point of the matter is now we're getting Lesnar and Cena. Lesnar and Cena. Two guys who came up. And you better hope he leave after that. Oh, well, then that's a whole other situation. But now you're going to get that. Apparently, this is what Cena wanted. He wanted to kind of have his wish list of people he wanted to have, I guess, one last run with. So why not a guy who, you know, they basically came up together through, you know, OVW, which, by the way, I did a top five once in the Rich Eisen show, and I ranked the greatest draft classes in sports.

50:59The OVW class of, I think it was 2002, was number four, because you have Brock Lesnar. You have John Cena. You have Randy Orton. You have Dave Bautista. And you have Shelton Benjamin. Nasty. That is. Disgusting. That's really hard. The only other class I could say there was a class, I think, of 97, 96. That was Rock, Edge, Kurt Angle. I think they all kind of were training together. But that OVW class was amazing. And now you're going to see. You're going to get. And John Cena, I guess he may have not wanted to have this type of meal on his plate, I guess is what I'm saying. Because Brock Lesnar comes with a whole other set of problems, bro.

51:40You're going to go to bed very sore. That's what makes the face turn make sense now. Yes, it's necessary. Yeah, so I get it from that perspective. But yeah, with this Cena run, a lot of people have always either hit me or asked me what did me and Triple H talk about at Fanatics Fest. And I never wanted to. I was there too. Yeah, I know. But like I was talking to him. I didn't speak to him? No, no, no. Not what he was talking about. Okay, that's cool. Yeah. Why you do this? I'm just saying. Because you make it seem like I wasn't there. No one made it seem like you weren't there. You know what I'm saying?

52:15I just said people ask me what I talked to Triple H about. That does not say that TJ wasn't there. I tell you what my problem is. My problem is he calls this dude Paul like they're friends, all right? And it annoys me. And he knows that. So that's why I said that. It annoys me. You don't know him like that. What you want me to call him, Hunter? Call him Trips. Trips? You want me to call him Tri? Remember they tried to get that off? Tell him Tri. Remember I told you I called Undertaker Mark and I apologized immediately. Because I knew I shouldn't have called. You shouldn't be calling the man Paul is all I'm saying.

52:44I got the man go by Paul Levesque. All right? I didn't know he was that French. His name is Paul Levesque. Chef Levesque. Chief Levesque. All right. Now, when I was talking to Paul Triple H Hunter Hearst Helmsley Levesque, me and him spoke about the Cena run. And he said, dude, John, I never wanted to talk about it because I didn't know if I could talk about it. We're not that type of podcast. We're not gotcha journalists or anything like that. So any information you talk to us about is just between us. And he said, you know, John has had the keys, you know, John, whatever John wants to do, he's given the business so much that however that guy wants to go out, you let him do it.

53:27He's earned that, He's earned it. Yeah. So this is another situation where John said, that's who you want to go against. And John tells you him got to figure out how to do it. And they got it done. And just in WWE fashion, they control the internet. They control the weekend. and we're going to be talking about this for a long time. We as a podcast have so much content now. So much content now. I can't wait for Raw. By the way, quick little side note. I want to say a happy birthday to my baby girl, Jordan. I love you. You eight years old. That means it's my eighth anniversary of being a parent.

54:07I'm happy and I love you forever. And I can't wait to take you to Disneyland. anyway as I was saying let me ask you would it technically be your ninth because she got born right and then so that would be one and then she turned one so that'd be two we've had why the f*** does everything have to be in argument with you it's a legitimate question I can't just tell my daughter happy birthday without it being some f***ing discourse my god it's a legitimate question about age it might be your ninth is all I'm saying happy birthday George Happy birthday, Jordan. Anyway, man. Man, you take things a little too personally.

54:47Because I'm sick of this shit. I know you're hurt. I get it. And I know you're hurt because you called me Sunday. You called me on the phone. I felt like I thought you were drinking when you called me. No, man. No. Listen, you guys. I'm on a stupid ass diet. I can't have no liquor. My man. I was like, should I drive over to where you're at right now? Because I didn't know. I was in Houston. Yeah, that was the problem. I couldn't. he was not in a good mind place you were not happy so I had to try to calm you down a little bit on the phone I'm fine and plus you guys don't know his phone broke he got to Houston he didn't have a phone he was tripping about that yeah man it sucks bro I went to work out with no music like a murderer it's terrible you just hear yourself breathe that shit is whack and I know this because you had just got done working out I think when I talk to you because you were still breathing a little harder.

55:40I was like, oh, my man just got done. Yeah, bro, I'm trying to get my R &B body. I'm trying to thirst trap. We need that DO3 to come soon. Absolutely, bro. But, yeah, I'm just saying about the age thing, that's something that I've been talking about for years. How does, is that number one? We can talk about that later. Yeah, yeah. Rich Eisen here with some advice. If high interest credit card debt is grinding you down, it might be time to call an audible with a SoFi personal loan. It consolidates your debt into one low monthly payment with no fees required and with as soon as the same day funding you can make the right play fast call an audible on your debt today at sofi.com slash debt play loans originated by sofi bank na member fdic terms and conditions apply nm ls 696891 fast funds terms apply at sofi.com slash debt play rich eisen here running a small business means every hire matters a bad hire costs time and money but the right one helps your business grow the challenge finding that person without sorting through resumes that's where linkedin hiring pro comes in it screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent with hiring pro you can hire with confidence and build the team you need join the 2.7 million small businesses using linkedin to hire get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eisen terms and conditions apply so those are two main events we kind of you know we were probably an hour in or something yeah so you know we'll just run down You had Tiffany versus Jade for the WWE Women's Champion.

57:07A little quick, seven minutes. Not really sure. Jade was built as this unbeatable monster in her previous place, AEW. I don't know. I don't know how I feel. She gets the win over Naomi. She gets the win over Asuka. And you know how I feel about it. Anytime Asuka loses. And then to have a seven-minute match for the Women's Championship as the queen of the ring. I don't know. I don't know. I feel about that. It didn't feel great, but we'll see where it goes. We'll see where it goes. Then you had the celebrity, Randy Orton, jelly roll match, celebrity match against Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre. I told you last week how I'm not so sure about celebrities and wrestling.

57:49I like the way they did this. They didn't put jelly roll over, which would have probably annoyed me because you shouldn't have a celebrity go over a performer who's a wrestler. You know what I mean? To me, it looks bad. So Jelly did his thing, took some spots, took the splash from Logan onto the table. He did it. I think he handled himself well. Man, my man, he got his hype up moment. He had spit flying and all that. That right there, all of us dream of having that. Right? Yeah, that's a thing. All of us dream of having that, man. We all dream of it. He did his thing. And then he lost, which he should.

58:29Yeah. And so for me, I was like, all right, I like the way the match was. He should get much respect. He should get much respect, the work that he put in. But yeah, you know, he got to look up at the lights, which as a wrestling fan, we know what winning and losing really is. And I'm glad he could have that moment. Much respect to Jelly Roll. He killed it. No doubt. No doubt. And then we also had. Because he didn't have to do that. No. Look at what Jelly Roll did. He's lost almost 200 pounds. He's moved to Orlando. He's been in the performance center. He got jumped on by Logan Paul. Broke his pinky apparently day one of training.

59:10Tripp said he just taped it up and kept going. So I want to give him a props, even more so than anything else, just for that incredible weight loss journey, you know, just taking control of his health. You can tell from the first time I saw Jelly World, and now he looks like two completely different human beings. So shout out to him, man, for, like you said, kind of living the dream. All wrestling fans would love to do that at some point. Obviously, not everyone gets that opportunity. He did, and I think he handled himself, and, you know, he did very well for himself. Then we had the women's tag team championship match.

59:45We called it. You know, the Judgment Day, the hard R's, Roxanne and Raquel. Hold on, dawg. Hold on, bro. The what? What? The hard R's? We're not going to get this over, bro. We don't technically have a name yet. The hard R's and Roxanne. Crazy. And, you know, they're hard bodies. No rock, you know. So, like, the hard R's. Yada da, I mean. So they took on Alexa and Charlotte. And, you know, we were all waiting for that moment, right? When inevitably Alexa and Charlotte, who aren't friends, we were waiting for that partnership to implode or explode, how do you want to look at it? And it did. Alexa, you know, she's known for that powerful right hand at Five Feet of Fury.

1:00:30Bam, she blasted Charlotte. Charlotte did a great job selling. She goes down and you're thinking, okay, this is it. This is when these two just imploded. Tremendous camera shot. of Alexa having Roxanne into the sister Abigail, you see Charlotte in the background. She's got that pissed off look on her face. And you're like, oh, crap. Here she comes. Beautiful camera shot. She comes, boots Raquel, knocks her down. Alexa hits the sister Abigail. One, two, three. New women's tag team champions. You know, we're Judgment Day fans here. We're definitely Roxanne fans. But you could kind of see the writing on the wall that this was going to happen, that Charlotte and Alexa were.

1:01:12And I love what they're doing with that because it ain't all good. You know, it ain't all good. Like, it's not. We're not buddy, buddy. Charlotte kind of was like, you hit me. Yeah. And Alexa just goes. And so that's good TV. We're going to have to always keep an eye on our women's tag team champions. And, you know, by being the women's tag team champions, that means they go to every show. Every show. So it should be interesting to see their two veterans. It should be fun. It should be fun. I'm happy for them. And we called it on this show that we both felt like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Roxanne.

1:01:49But we definitely did say that Charlotte and Alexa might win. But you know what my creative liberty was about Raquel going on to get her own singles title. Who knows? Maybe. It might come to fruition. A little funny thing from the end, too. after Charlotte and Alexa get the belts and they're still kind of yapping at each other. Do you see Charlotte reached out and snatched her ponytail like real hard and pulled her in for a hug? It's going to be so many funny moments like that. Yeah, that's going to be comedy gold. And more importantly, because you and I are huge Charlotte Flair fans and we get some of that unnecessary hate off of Charlotte that wasn't deserved.

1:02:29And now the cheers are coming, which I love. Because, you know. She deserves it. She deserves it. What else we had? Sammy defeated Karrion Kross. No need to spend a lot of time. It kind of makes you wonder, you know, even though the Crouch stand for Karrion Kross, it's reported that he doesn't have a contract. Sammy goes over clean. Kind of wonder what that has in store for Karrion Kross and Scarlett. And, you know, then we had the Tribal Chief and Jey Uso taking on the bronze. And that was a great match to set the tone, right? Yeah. That's the match. When was the last time the tribal chief opened up a PLE?

1:03:05First of all, it's been a minute, right? If he ain't the man, let me get on this plane. Exactly. And then you know what you had with the bronze. You have Breaker and you have Bronson Reed, who is now going by the tribal thief because he stole Roman's jays. The tribal thief and the shula falla. Like, that's amazing. He took the man's shoes, Shay. He was like Ezel He was like Ezel after this dude Craig Jones knocked out Debo In this one movie called Friday You know what I'm saying Let me get these your big foot He snatched his shoes And if I would Bronson Reed I'm either bronzing those shoes Or I'm doing something with them But I'm never giving them joints back It's hilarious I tweeted out My tribal chief and his cousin Just got robbed in Detroit Don't talk to me man You guys think I'm picking on My man needed to be taught down There was a lot he was dealing with.

1:04:01He was dealing with Roman getting his shoes stolen. He was dealing with Punk losing. My phone was broke. Your phone was broke. Up is down, left is black. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I was picking that. I was poking him a little bit, but that's because I knew my man was going through it. Yeah. But, you know, I don't want nobody else messing with you. Thank you, man. Because you know what happens if someone else does. Bro, take it easy, bro. Take out the kendo stick. I can't have it. He's got a stick. He's got a stick. So, yeah, Roman and Jay, I've never seen this from those two before.

1:04:29where they clear the ring earlier in the match, and then we get the... Are they eating in the middle of the match? In the middle of the match. I saw a dude make a video on TikTok who was... You would have thought that somebody broke into his house and stole his dog. He was that mad about that one instance in that match. I was like, bro, chill. Bro, relax. It's entertainment, y 'all. It's entertainment at the end of the day. Are you not entertained? So they hit the 1D. They get the win. And Roman had some dope white boots on, too. Yeah, bro, he had them Billy jeans on. He had on them in Michael Jackson shoes or something.

1:05:10I got to say this. Jay's entrance, right? I just got to. Because I've asked entertainers. It took him forever. I asked wrestlers and musicians and maybe just those two, because they're really the ones who really a live crowd. You can really get this. Not so much an athlete. But a musician or a wrestler, what that must feel like for Jay, who was stuck. I don't want to say stuck because he was one of the greatest tag teams of all time. But you were looked at as simply a tag team wrestler for years. And then one thing happens that never happened is Jimmy getting hurt. Jimmy was known for being an Iron Man for years.

1:05:49If you remember, he never got hurt. Then he gets hurt. And it's time for Jay to step up. And not only did he step up, he stepped out. Yeah. And now you're talking about this dude. When you watch, you watch this entrance, man. It's just like, what does that feel like? Right. And every crowd is dying to be there for one of those. And do that, man. And just give a shout out. No matter how offbeat they are. That's true. Some of them are, but just want to give a shout out to Jay, man, because that's got to be honest to God. That's got to be the most incredible feeling in the world. Just to have that, an arena, a stadium filled of people.

1:06:24And it's all, it's all because of faux letters. one word uh but yeah so shout out to that and then you know now day two comes and now we're still reeling because everybody's talking about the cash and everything from night one so we go to night two. Did it start early? No they both started at three o 'clock which you know six o 'clock there I'm in Texas. You were in Texas so it went four or five it was five for me so that's why when I got home I was like dang it's already on so you know we have Intercontinental Championship match our guy Dirty Dom. Dirty Dom. Shout out to AJ Styles, man, for recreating because it was the anniversary of Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, custody of Dominant.

1:07:10That was a SummerSlam thing. So shout out to AJ for coming out with the Eddie Guerrero and Spider tights. The lowrider. And his son was with him with platinum blonde hair, the same hair that Dom had when he was a kid. The attention to detail of that was really amazing. I will say that shirt, I know y 'all made that in the back. All right? The little ass font. I see the little outline of it. Yep. I know a malty when I see one. Styles heat? Is that what you said? Yeah, that's what I think it said. The font was too small. The font was too small. But yeah, just those little things, man. The tights.

1:07:46The tights. The fact that his son was in the car with him, the blonde hair. And I saw that. I was like, oh, wow. This is pretty dope. This is pretty dope, man. And, you know, of course, Dominic, man, just growing as a performer. That is Dominic Mysterio. I am so grateful. I am so grateful that I am watching wrestling where I have Roman Reigns, Cody 2.0, John Cena, Seth Rollins, Brock Lesnar, CM Punk, and Dominic Mysterio. My goodness. The IQ is on 9 ,000. The way that he pulled off the victory is how he should be for the rest of his career. You want to play off this Eddie thing? Yep. That's how you do it.

1:08:35But the thing is, AJ, you know, he fakes no jacks. He's got chip to game. He's like BoJack, baby. He's hip to the game. He saw what was going on. So he's like, oh, Beck, I'm going to put the chair over my head. That was solid. That was solid. You saw the leg shake? And now the ref's like, well, wait a minute. Both of them were knocked out by the chair. Entertainment. It truly was. And then Dom taking the zipper down. The zipper because IQ on 9 ,000. As a nod to Eddie in his WrestleMania 21 match. Was it 21 against Kurt Angle? Is that the one in LA? The one where he unzipped his boot? Yeah, I don't know if that was in LA.

1:09:13Or was that 20? It was 20. It had to be 20. That was 20. Eddie's wrestling Kurt Angle. he knows Kurt's going to go for the angle lock at some point. So what's that he does? Ref's not looking. He does his boot a little bit. So when Kurt grabs the move, he can pull his foot out. Same thing with Dom. Dom knew AJ was going to try to calf crusher again on him because he did it earlier in the match. So he unzips his boot. Boot comes off. Genius move. Greatest Intercontinental Champion of all time. Shout out to just Eddie Guerrero on that whole match, man. Shout out, Eddie. He wrote Greatest Mysterio of all time.

1:09:47No contest. to wherever. No contest wrestling Hall of Famer. Yeah. I mean, what else can the man do? Everything. Pulls all the baddies, the rizzes off the charts. Like, come on. Come on. Dirty Dom. Dirty. Dominic Mysterio could borrow my car if he wanted to. Alright, he got to play it at the house. Shout out to Dirty Dom. I was about to say, do you always take Ubers? Do you have? Yeah, yeah. Got a Range Rover. Dominic Mysterio can have it. United States Championship match in the cage. We saw Solo defend against Jacob. You know, this one, it was whatever. I think they could have a better match.

1:10:29It made me feel like somebody ran too long and they had to cut it short. That could have been it too. Obviously, Solo had the numbers game. He had Tala Tonga. He had JC Mateo. We know this. Jimmy, hold on. Let me get the camera. Jimmy, what the hell was the plan? Right? You didn't come out with a weapon. There's four of them. It's four of them, baby. You about to get jumped. You just thought, you know what? I'm going to sneak up behind him. That'll show him. That's all you had? What the hell are we doing, Jimmy? Shout out to Jim. He worried about Naomi. I can't blame him. Because Naomi's probably keeping that man up all night.

1:11:05If you be reading her tweets. She'll be telling Big Jim to meet her in the elevator. She'll be telling Big Jim to meet her by the elevators and behind the trash can. Your ass better be there. Naomi's wild. She owned one. Yeah, but, you know, it was what it was. Solo gets the win. Jimmy locks JC and Tonga Lowe in the cage with Jacob. Yeah, I was like, you locked them in. There were two people. Yeah. It was like, it's Jacob. Jacob. Yeah, and then, you know, the moonsault off the top of the cage. Which felt like it should have been during the match. Right. But just a great moment. So that's why I felt like it was cut short.

1:11:40You could be right about that. Yeah. Women's Intercontinental Championship match. Becky retains over Bird Lady Lyra. You know, I thought I don't think the crowd did this match a service. Hell no, they didn't. I don't know whether it was because the match before maybe they were out of it, but the crowd didn't seem to be into this match as much as they should be, and this was a pretty decent match, I thought, bro. The thing is when you were at, and you've been to a lot of these, you know when they get out of the ring while you're at a stadium or at an arena it's hard to like really see what's going on.

1:12:16That's when they got the big money. Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know what MetLife's, like, Tron looks like. When you're at an outdoor stadium, there is no major thing. Everybody has to turn their head and find one of those ones on the wall. Like in Philadelphia, when you do it at, what's Jerry World? Like Jerry World got a big-ass screen for everybody to look at. The biggest screen out there, yeah. For everybody to look at. SoFi has the ring for everybody to look at. I don't know MetLife's situation, but if it's just like one little TV that everybody has to turn their head and look at, it's hard to like...

1:12:52Yeah, but it wasn't. I'm pretty sure there was a monitor above the ring. I can't remember. So when they go outside of the ring in these stadium PLEs, it's hard to really follow. Now, I do want to credit Lyra because we saw the zip tie come loose. if I come out is she had to be quick really quick and she handled it so quick to the point I literally said to myself I had to rewind I did rewind because I said did I see her I know I saw it that was like no I didn't see that because am I why because the fact of the matter is the hand was supposed to I'll be smoking I didn't see that oh geez wow okay uh yeah so yeah Lyra did a great job like kind of refixing the the zip tie and going through everything she had to go through.

1:13:40Look, how many of these kendo sticks were broken in that? Becky wore her out with the kendo stick, broke like two. Don Bowie claims this don't hurt. I ain't trying to get hit with the kendo stick. Hey, don't forget, folks. Don't forget. Don Bowie? Yeah. He a wild boy. He's a wild boy. He claims the kendo stick don't hurt. Let Becky lean in with it. He might think differently. No, I don't know. It might hulk him up. Lyra just, like I said, she's kind of, she's definitely won me over. I don't know. I think you're a Lyra fan. Lyra yoked. When Becky came back, we said that she was going to elevate Lyra and make her a star.

1:14:18And that's what Becky has been doing. Even in defeat, Lyra's coming off great. So, you know, the kendo sticks, the crowbar, the zip ties, you know, the box of tools, all of that. Becky with that leg drop? Before we get to that, though, the crowbar. Yeah. Now Becky's about to hit her with a crowbar. And then all of a sudden, out of the crowd, comes BBL. BBL, BBL! BBL, BBL! By the way, that ain't no, that is God-given, Bailey, is what that is. Look, red leather hasn't... Eddie Murphy wore red leather in Delirious. I was Delirious as hell. I don't think red leather has been that prominent since until Bailey came out.

1:15:01Not since Michael Jackson's thriller, not since Eddie Murphy's Delirious. you know? So Bailey comes out. Becky tries to, I guess, get on Bailey's side. Be like, look. Yeah, get her. Get her. Four horsewomen, baby. Bailey ain't going to do that. So I thought for a second. I thought for a second. And then, so Bailey and Becky get into it. Becky tosses Bailey to the side and she's kind of getting up on a table and then out of nowhere, the drop from the head. Caw! Caw! Yep, bird person. Bird man, bird man. Comes out and drops a leg drop where I was like, ooh, Oh, Becky. Bam, that was just... Becky a little dizzy.

1:15:37She was a little dizzy after that one. And, yeah, you know, I don't know what... The match goes on. Bailey wants to get her comeback. She has a change. She goes to punch Becky. Becky ducks. She knocks out Lyra. Becky gets the pick. You know, there's a stipulation that Lyra can't challenge for their Intercontinental title anymore. As long as Becky's the champion. I don't... Alright, but... Yeah, man. Yam God, it's not your fault. God bless the Yam God. Man, shout out to Bailey. That's all we got. We love you. She knows that. She knows that. The tag, the men's tag team championship, tables, ladders, and chairs.

1:16:18This was such controlled chaos. First of all, I got to say this. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. We had the Wyatt Six. So we never even got the chance to really talk about beating the street profits. for those belts. The Street Profits were in the match. Fraxium, DIY, Motor City Machine Guns, and Andrade. Let's get the whole division out here. Let's get the whole division out in one match. That's what they did, because they've been building up. Remember, for weeks, the entire division was kind of afraid of the Wyatts, and so they were all kind of trying to band together, or maybe throw one, feed one to the Wyatt Six.

1:16:56They put all the teams out there, bro, and these guys did their thing. Hell of a match, bro. Crazy match. Just the amount of cleanup that the crew probably had to do after that. Unbelievable, man. Crazy spots. Montez Ford, athletic as athletic can be. You had some things that we're used to seeing in a TLC match. Some things that we haven't seen before. My man, Tommaso Ciampa, with his best Tom Holland impression. and going full Spider-Man onto the whatever the hell you call it that holds the belts. That was crazy. I thought they were about to get the Edge spear off. That's what Nathan Fraser was setting up to do, to do that spear that Edge hit Jeff Hardy with him.

1:17:46By the way, the Hardys boys and the Dully boys in attendance watching this match. I wonder why Edge and Christian weren't there. Well, I think they're busy at their other job probably. Who knows? But yeah, man, so many. Like Axiom and Angelo Dawkins doing the Spanish fly off the top rope, out of the ring, onto the table was insane. Insane. Candice LeRae, who I've said on this. Bro. I've said on this podcast episode. Goes. I was like, Candice LeRae, if you don't know, she wrestled men back in the Indies. She did stuff like this. Her to take that bump off the ladder. Shea, I literally, that bump was so bad.

1:18:27I'm in my apartment watching, and I went, Candice, no. I literally screamed, Candice, no, because that looked so ill. And, like, we've seen ladders bend. That ladder exploded. Exploded. Exploded, bro. Exploded. Her poor little body exploded that ladder, and I was like, oh, yeah. That's a pay raise. Sunset flip power bombs. Everyone in this match. Johnny well Johnny looked but the reason you fell was for us to get that so let me go get this in the end though the white six they use the numbers advantage which they should because there are five of them or is there six of them there's five of them that bothers me I think eventually Alexa is going to have to come that's what they say I'm starting to just feel like Bray's spirit is the six And look, I'm okay with that too.

1:19:26And I feel that's the thing because people love Bray so much. I know I did. You and I have never really talked about Bray Wyatt. I'm assuming you're a fan. Oh, my God, yeah. I remember where I was the day I found out. Yeah, man. So to have just the spirit of Bray live on. My only gripe about this, right, is the two members who were most, I guess, naturally attached to Bray were Rowan and Uncle Howdy. Eric Rowan, Bo Dallas as his brother and as someone who was actually in the Wyatt family. So I think it kind of bugs me a little bit that those two aren't actually wrestling, getting in the action.

1:20:08Shout out to the other two, Joe Gacy and Dexter Loomis. Dexter Loomis, I just knew the dude screamed star to me. I'm like singles star. I'm just glad to see him get work but continue with it. Yeah, so it's like that. I think that's just my only gripe. I'd love to see Uncle Howdy, Bo Dallas, and I'd love to see Eric Rowan because they physically were the ones closest to Bray Wyatt. And so I'd like to see them get a little action, but can't complain what they're doing. It's working. Can't complain. The fans are behind them. It's going to. But they always got the numbers game. The only thing that can beat them logically is another stable.

1:20:46Like a tag team will not do it because there's five of them. And my other thing is, why aren't they using the Freebird rule for these belts? Why can't we see the other members, much like the New Day? Why can't we see the other members defending these belts? Just keep doing it. They haven't brought that up yet, but maybe at some point, you know, you'll want to get the other two in there. I'll text Paul.

1:21:11And lastly, not lastly, because never lastly, we just got to touch on the Women's World Championship Triple Threat Match. which Naomi retains against Rhea and Io. Naomi had her dad play her down to the ring. First of all, you just got done wishing little Jordan happy birthday, Jordan, whether it's his eighth Father's Day or his ninth day. We don't know yet, but happy birthday to Jordan. So you got to know what it's like, man, to have your daughter as the women's world champion. WWE World Champion. And you get to play her to the ring. He's, you know, great musician. We kind of touched on a little bit when we spoke to Naomi.

1:21:51That had to be. Yeah. Walked her all the way down the ramp. That had to be an incredible moment for that family. That was beautiful. Then you have, you know, Rhea, Io, two of the best wrestlers in the world. And they put on a great show to kick off night two, of course. They even did the thing together. I hate that everyone calls it the emote, but. Hey, you got an emote, bro. It is what it is. Yeah, bro. You didn't play Fortnite? by the way that should definitely be an email in Fortnite sorry I'm just thinking about video again well I mean that's your thing so I'll let you you know but yeah they start calling them Rio I know I kind of like that that would be a good time you know kind of Naomi shows she does her homework the same spot from Wrestlemania where Io tried to do the moonsault onto Bianca and Rhea.

1:22:45Naomi was in that spot. She saw it moved. Let Io hit Rio with it. Also, just the classic heel move. Rhea hits Io with the riptide, goes for the pin. Naomi comes in, catches the tights, gets the three, remains champion. And we here on No Contest Wrestling Podcast, we predicted this because we know that Rhea and Io will have to battle until the The oceans dry up and the mountains turn into dust before they figure that out. So we, you know, you kind of figure that Naomi was going to get the win. It was a couple of moments where you're unsure about it, but that means that's a good match. That's what it should be, right?

1:23:25Yeah, that's a good match. Because what did it say? Talk to you. Talk to him. Did it have surprised you based upon some things? Had Naomi lost that belt? I think a lot of people were probably bracing themselves. Black people. Listen. Listen. but right now we're going to get Naomi against Stephanie Vaqueror in France and I cannot wait to see that that makes me nervous I love them both that was it night one and two SummerSlam overall you enjoyed it I give it a solid eight solid eight and it was because first of all the main events Both of them delivered chef's kiss. Oh my God. Both surprises at the end.

1:24:15Yeah. It was the night to no, nobody else lost the title. No one else lost the title. So that just shows the champions are strong. Exactly. Look at it like that. Exactly. But I was, I left the weekend satisfied and that is all that I could ask for. TKO is now thinking about making other PLEs two nighters, which makes my wallet shiver in fear. but this SummerSlam loved it. SummerSlam might be my favorite PLE over mania. Really? Because SummerSlam always punches you right in the mouth. That's what I asked for. Now that we've completely gone through the card and everything before we get out of here my man TJ Jefferson we've given WWE their time and so now it is It's time to bring up something that brings in both companies.

1:25:09My man TJ Jefferson has a declaration that he would like to present to you, and I am all for it. Well, I just wanted to look here and make sure I had my numbers right before I put this out here. And the number is 18. Okay? Six times three is what, Shea? It's 18. Yes, sir. And here's what the 18 represents, because I am now convinced, right, after Saturday night that Sierra Hotel, India, Echo, Lima, Delta, The Shield, I believe now we can say are the greatest faction in the history of professional wrestling. Okay, you know what 18 is, Shay? 18 is the number of world championships that Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, and Jon Moxley have had in their careers.

1:26:05When they debuted as The Shield, you saw something that we've never seen before with these three guys, right? The Shield came out and there was nobody like them. These three kids coming out of seemingly nowhere. We know they came out of developmental. But for them to get the shot that they got, they didn't have to go to the bottom of the card. They shot straight to the top, and they proved that they deserved to be there. And over these last 12 or so years, these three wrestlers have been at the top of the game. We're talking, like I said, WWE championships, World Heavyweight Championships, AEW Heavyweight Championships, IWGP World Heavyweight Championships.

1:26:55They each have six. And I think looking at it now, based upon all that, I don't see how you can say there is another faction in the history of wrestling that's greater than The Shield. And I can't wait for this to hit YouTube because I want to hear what people have to say. but more importantly than that, I want to know what you have to say. I completely agree. First of all, I also want to, we get the wide back. I know it's got a BS X on it. I'm a CM Punk guy. It was a statement when he had his so I did it on mine. By the way, this AEW belt is gorgeous. It's a beautiful belt, bro. Amazing. Amazing quality on that belt.

1:27:36It's expensive as hell. But yeah, I completely agree with you, bro. I completely agree with you. They are just unfair. You know, in video game language, they are OP. You know, they are just an overpowered group. And, yeah, the fact that they were all together and, you know, in your mind, you hope that they stay in some sort of contact with each other, especially with Moxley making the move. or WWE used to have their little ride-along shows and watching, if you go back and just look at them together, young kids, like, it's almost surreal. It's like, it's a dream, a fever dream. And, you know, I thought about you and I because I watched that clip.

1:28:24Because we're the Shield? Well, no, I watched that clip. This is serious. I watched that clip a little earlier. And Seth was talking, it was he, he was driving Dean, Dean, I'll call him Jon Moxley now, whatever you want to call him. And Rome was in the back, and Seth was talking about how, you know, this is how we usually do. Big Goose is usually in the back, sleeping. Yeah, sleeping. And it's just like three people having fun. And Seth mentioned, he goes, we didn't really know each other that well. We got to know each other by taking these car rides, and we got to understand who each other were as human beings, where each other came from.

1:28:54And I kind of, you know, not to sound stupid or corny, but I kind of feel like that was our journey. Yeah. You and I, I had a basic knowledge of you. obviously far more than you had of me when you come on the rich eyes and show i get to know you for what 20 minutes maybe three times i knew right off the bat like i like this dude and i think you know our first our first interaction we talked about wrestling in the green room but since we've been on this journey now you and i we've gotten i think we you know say we've gotten closer we built this friendship and each week we're learning something new about each other so i kind of thought about us not that we're the shield or anything like that but it's exactly the way seth said that those guys got their chemistry got to become friends you know just phone calls and and trips together and just kind of learning about somebody as they go along so i know like i said in just a weird way i kind of thought about us like that like what we're trying to build here you know and bringing everybody out there on this ride with us yeah well on van vliet i called you one of my best friends bro like yeah like no yeah i completely understand where that comes from you think about the moments of when when roman said that his leukemia came back and that that hug man seth with tears in his eyes john tearing up you know just being there for roman or you think about the the ride-along uh episodes the fact that they all held the title same night same night how do you have three people who are in the same group all become world champion at the same night that damn Roman walked in this champion yeah Seth pinned him yeah and then Moxley cashed in yeah that's gross everyone call it yeah one night three champions from the same crew bro come on that's nasty so I I just think like you know old school you know I'm very old school some people say that I'm too old school on this show, but obviously the Four Horsemen.

1:30:55Four Horsemen. Great. Evolution. Your greatest probably faction because they really like the first faction. Then you got people like the Dangerous Alliance who don't get enough credit. You get DX, the NWO, Evolution. Evolution I think would be probably the closest to it. If you want to argue Evolution, I'll take a step back and go, okay, because there were four of them. but you had two who were already established right Flair was already goaded Triple H was well on his way to becoming goaded so yeah you had Orton and Batista they're coming up yeah but to have Batista if I'm not mistaken Batista didn't get his title until they were out right out of evolution yeah so it's still the same thing but just to have three young men come up together they said their goal was to dominate and change wrestling and you guys were correct and you were successful and they're still running, they're still at the top of the wrestling business right now.

1:31:55So, just a shout out to Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns and Jon Moxley, man. You guys got the ball and you did not fumble. And they took it all the way home, man. So, in my opinion, the Shield greatest faction of all time. Greatest. Greatest of all time. Shout out to the Shield. Yeah, but of course, love to know what everyone else thinks. I'm sure we're going to get a bunch of different ideas. Well, actually. And I'm sure maybe we might be forgetting somebody, but based upon what these three men did in the heavyweight championship game, which is, you know, the most important championships, you've got to put them up there, man.

1:32:33Got to put them up there. I completely, I'm behind you on that, 100%. If anybody's saying anything disrespectful to you, I'll be in the comments section kicking ass. Ladies and gentlemen, we've been talking your ear off. Yeah, man. But that's why you came here. Would you want us to not talk? Somebody has. TJ, how about you tell them where to find us? All right, so you know we mentioned ESPN earlier, so what I'm going to need you guys to do is go ahead and subscribe to the pod now. That way in a couple weeks when we make the change, you ain't got to worry about doing nothing. All right? Because we're taking no contest to EA three times on that.

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WWE’s SummerSlam PLE went down this weekend and the 2 nights were filled with drama, surprise returns, and multiple viral moments. O’Shea and T.J. recap the event and react to Seth Rollins cashing in his Money in the Bank contract to become World Heavyweight Champion.

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