OverReaction Monday: The Vikings Will Win The NFC North Or Miss The Playoffs

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0:56Rich Eisen:All right, it's been a while. We know it's been a while. But that's what summer's about, is take a little break, come back, and talk about Overreaction Monday, when the NFL training camps are on the verge of opening up. A few are already here. League-wide, league-wide, league-wide. Rich Eisen, Chris Brock, another edition of Overreaction Monday, right in the middle of July, everybody. It is training camp season is upon us. Some teams are fully open. Some just have rookies. By the end of the week, if you are listening to this podcast, later in the week of the week of July 21st. Guess what? Everyone's going to be up and at them in the National Football League.

1:37Rich Eisen:So we have essentially, I want to punch the clown here. We've made it. I feel like we've made it. I feel like we've made it. I feel like we've made it. I feel like we've made it. Not to paraphrase. We're just like so close. What Hall of Fame game is next week? Yeah. To quote Barry Manilow, it looks like we've made it. You know what I mean? Right. Tell Tufo like that one. Well, he's your audience for Barry Manilow references. All Things Manilow? Yeah. That's a good fantasy name, actually. All Things Manilow. Write it down. All Things Manilow. Write it down because, you know, it's around the corner trying to figure out.

2:12Rich Eisen:Write down All Things Manilow. That's not a bad thing. That's pretty good. That's not a bad thing. It feels like Rudd would really like that one. Rudd would like that one. I think Rudd would like that one. And he has already been contacted. Oh. He will be. He's been made aware. He will be made. Well, he knows it's now a tradition that we reach out to Paul Rudd to name our co-owned Rich Eisen show. Defending champion. Yes. Fantasy league entry for the fantasy footballers. Anyway, good to see you, sir. Hey, good to see you. All right, let's stop prattling on. Let's talk overreaction Monday. Hit it.

2:45Rich Eisen:Hit it, please. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This place sucks. Overreaction. Mondays. Monday. on a podcast. Here we go, buddy. We're back. We said we made it, and we're time to talk about it. Camps are opening. Yes, sir. I'm looking over the steering wheel. I'm thinking about the season at large. That's what you do. That's what you do. I wrote it down. I got a printout, an old school printout this year. My computer was dead. Okay. Someone other than the Chiefs and Eagles will have the most wins in the NFL this year. I don't think that's an overreaction. I don't think that's an overreaction.

3:19Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. Oh. You thought I would say. You're just quadrupling down on the Chiefs every year. I need to see somebody defending champs. The Chiefs have made all the right moves. They made sure Trey Smith got his contract just under the wire, took the franchise tag off and made him the highest paid guard in the National Football League to play against the highest paid center. They gave George Karloftis a little cheese. Take a look at the cheese of some of the top pass rushers in the National Football League. 23 million per is uh pretty cheap pretty cheap for the chief pardon me inexpensive it's inexpensive good value good that's what it is and so chris jones is there and kelsey just saw him at the uh american century championship he looks good he looks ready to roll mahomes is going to have that chip on his shoulder so why not believe that the chiefs are going to do it again and the same thing with the eagles but just out of the concept of one never knows with the national football league and that somebody could go on a tear and just go out come out of nowhere and take over and be a a one seed in one of these conferences that we don't see common or has previously been and they do it again you know lions for instance would be one in the nfc they were the one seed last year right and uh got one and done in in the playoffs um so by the commanders maybe the commanders can come out of nowhere and do it be since they made the nfc championship game last year giving you some other options here obviously ravens would be usual suspects bills ravens sure so i mean i think that that's not an overreaction at all just out of out of just respect to the national football league uh where last can become first and you know outhouses can become penthouses and there's usually a lot of turnover in the nfl with playoff teams from one year to the next so why not?

5:16Interesting.

5:16Rich Eisen:I threw your curve. You did. I think I've just been conditioned for overreaction and then I have to defend myself. No, that's good. I like it. Okay. What's up? What's up? Can we go two for two to start this? Oh, definitely not. Okay. The Steelers are going to regret not trading TJ Watt. I mean, look, here's the deal. Like, do you agree that TJ Watt is on the decline? I did see a diminished return last year. Last three games, the regular season, zero sack. I saw a diminished return. Would you have given him that deal? I absolutely would have. Wow. I told you why. And I'll tell you again. It's because a, he deserves it.

5:58Rich Eisen:B it's what the market bears. C they made their bed with a 41 year old quarterback. Who's got one year to take this team to at least the second round of the playoffs to at least a, a playoff win to at least a super bowl run that won't fall apart in week 12 like it did last year with russell wilson so you got to make sure this is all done and buttoned up and you have everybody at your disposal to damn the torpedoes i don't mean more you know cliched metaphors i can throw out here but tj watt sitting at home holding out contractually is not your best foot forward when you've got aaron rogers in the in your fold with one year to make it happen so i understand you're saying that this is on the back end of the deal when he's 33 and making a ton of money and potentially cap hamstringing a team i understand what you're saying sort of like albert pool holes at the end of his long deal in baseball sure maybe that stanton contract right now with the yankees well i mean he went three for three on the day before this uh this uh this uh this taping understood this podcast you know each one of them with a uh uh an exit velocity you know that was over 100 plus off the bat but i mean i understand what you're saying okay i walked push back i walked in no but i i see what you're saying and i understand that you're saying what on the back end of the deal um is is going to be potentially problematic we also don't know if anything was happening last year that we don't know of physically they do i mean this had to get done this had to get done and they did it and they had to do it at this freight and um and so i think this is a you're correct we're not two for two here this is a massive overreaction chris they could They could have done it before the draft.

8:06So, like, when do you think they decided that it was Aaron Rodgers to be their quarterback this season? Because if it was before the draft, then okay, then I understand. You just wait, wait, wait it out. But if it was after the draft. It wasn't. It wasn't. You think before the draft they decided.

8:21Rich Eisen:If I had to peg. Because if it was after the draft, then why wouldn't you have traded T.J. Watt? Because the quarterback would have been such a great unknown. The minute Stafford and Darnold said no, it was Rodgers for the Steelers. So that would have been mid-20. Early March, late February. Yeah. Yeah. When Stafford was like, yeah, I'm not going east. And Darnold's like, yeah, I'm not coming there. I'm going to go to Seattle. Assuming that they did kick a tire on Darnold and he turned it down. because the Seahawks clearly won that race for various reasons. Minute those two guys said we're out, it was Rodgers all the way, if I had to guess.

9:08I wonder if we're ever going to find that out because that obviously affects the timeline.

9:11Rich Eisen:We will not. We will not find that out. But it was obvious that they went into the draft knowing it was Rodgers. We were all sitting there going, that's a heck of a basket to put all your eggs in. And all the Green Bay fans that were like, hey, we love Rodgers here. I mean, you know, Aaron did so much for us here in Green Bay, and it was amazing when he was here. But towards the end and now, glad he's not with us anymore. Glad we don't have to deal in quotes with all that stuff. Although, again, and I'm going to talk about this on the flagship show later on Monday. Seth Rollins had a great interview with Cam Hayward when he was sitting in the chair here.

9:45Rich Eisen:And Cam Hayward said, Rogers is walking around the locker room asking how it's done here. which is not at all the scenario right in which he finished his career in green bay and and and spent his two years in new york that was all like you know it's your show right how are we gonna how are we running it here with it in green bay it was like this is how it's done because you've been here forever and in new york it was like you tell us how it's done right because we don't know i I mean, the coach knows what to do on defense, but on offense, who do you need? What do you want? And now he's strolling into Pittsburgh.

10:25Rich Eisen:Everyone's like, well, he's going to try and make it his there. And Cam Hayward said, he's walking around saying, tell me how it's done here, which is, I think, a positive development for those who think otherwise or are fearful of otherwise. What else you got over there? All right. Well, we're obviously recording this Monday morning. Cowboys reporting to Oxnard. expect Micah Parsons to be there, but he should stay home until Jerry gives him a new deal. I think he'll just hold in. It's common. I just, again, I don't get it. I don't get it. The Jets did what they needed to do with Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner now.

11:05Rich Eisen:They didn't have to do it now. They did it now. Because they know the price is only going to go up. Only going to go up. Set the market for Sauce now. Tack on the four years on the two years that he's got. But if he agrees to do that, I'll stay like a before the next two years, and then the four years after that is when things kick in, and I got six years of runway in the National Football League. I know I'm going to be here until I'm close to 30, and then we're going to deal with the 30-year-old conundrum that Watt just successfully navigated, and Hendrickson is still undergoing right now, just to name two.

11:39Rich Eisen:Terry McLaurin is dealing with right now. Oh, yeah, we're going to get to him in a second. So, you know, but that's down the road. and Garrett Wilson, we all know what the receiver market looks like right now. So you pay him what you're paying him right now, and you got these two young Turks with this young quarterback and this new first-year head coach. I can't believe I'm saying this, but the Jets have done it right. I know. And again, the Cowboys do what they do. now Watts in that now means Jerry has to beat that. Whereas if he did this last year, what would have to have beaten what he did with Micah for Jerry?

12:23Rich Eisen:I don't get it. I don't understand it. I'm not sure if you saw what Tom said with Andrew on Friday, but he said the number is, it isn't going to be, you know, the 41.1 or whatever to barely beat TJ watt. It's going to be closer to 45 million per year for Micah Parsons. good i mean good luck and obviously we're not sitting here thinking he's not worth it no we're sitting here thinking he could have used it in some extra help somewhere on the roster with the extra millions of dollars that jerry could have been spending on that person if they signed him when we knew they're gonna have to listen if you know you have a star at a position that is crucial in the NFL, or you have a kid that you have drafted and you know you like him, you know the community likes him, and you know it would take a massive shocker of a development for you not to sign this guy, sign him early.

13:23Rich Eisen:The Eagles showed it, and even when they did it with Carson Wentz and it didn't work out, they got out from under it, if you've got the proper general managing. But this is just a story as old as time. It's like the same Mad Lib. Just change the proper nouns, except for the name Jerry Jones, and just change the date and the position. It's just one large Mad Lib. It's wild. We shall see. But I think he's going to, you know, he'll just hold in if there's any reason to hold anything. Do you think we see him at all in training camp? Yeah. Is he going to play in the preseason? No. But this is done week one.

14:05Absolutely.

14:06Rich Eisen:In the same way we were. Dude, we went this with Dak and CeeDee Lamb just last year. Dak signed the day of week one. I know. Yeah. Same thing could happen here. I don't understand. But you can't. The one thing I can tell you is Micah won't sign on the Saturday night slash Sunday morning of week one because they play Thursday night of week one. Right, right. You know? So it will be Tuesday or Wednesday night in Philadelphia in the Four Seasons. While eating a cheese steak. You know what I mean? So dumb. Right? While the Dukes are on the street looking for a handout. That's pretty good. So what else you got over there?

14:48Rich Eisen:That was a coming to America reference. That would be in New York, not Philadelphia. Let's not pick nits. Rich Eisen here for gusto. After all these years talking to athletes, coaches, entertainers, and people at the top of what they do, One thing is pretty clear. Success usually depends on getting the details right. For small business owners, that includes payroll, hiring, onboarding, benefits, you know, the work that keeps everything moving, even if it's not the reason you started the business in the first place. That's why there's Gusto. Gusto is online payroll and benefits software built for small businesses.

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16:26Rich Eisen:That was where the Duke brothers were made a cameo and coming to America. Right, right, right. Right. When they were on the streets. Right. Didn't they? Trading places photo. Correct. Look, don't mess with me. I had four days off right now. My mind is sharp. People in Washington are disgruntled. And so are some of the commanders, Rich. Yes. They want a deal. They're not going to get a new deal. And there would be a team that would be very interested, is what I heard our friend Albert Beer say. If the Patriots trade for Terry McCorn, they will challenge the Bills for the AFC East title. That's nuts.

16:58Okay.

16:58Rich Eisen:I'm high on your team, but I mean, to go from the depths to suddenly challenging for the conference title, the division title, just because Terry McLaurin is added to the mix, we don't even know when Stephon Diggs comes. I don't want to, listen, I don't want to carp. Stephon Diggs is not on pop. I don't want to carp on your Patriots and douse a flame here. They could be a sleeper team, but to win the division, threaten for the division? If they add McCorin. I understand what you're saying. That's a big if, but Terry shouldn't want to do that. Terry doesn't want to do that. Terry wants to get paid.

17:34Rich Eisen:Terry's going to get paid by the Washington Commanders. You think so? I'm telling you, this is going to finally happen. It doesn't seem like it. I understand that, but$15.5 million doesn't cut it. No, no, no. No, I know that. They know that. They're going to figure something out. I mean, in the middle of 25? I don't know what the number's going to be. i'm not going to be in the numbers prediction i'm just in the prediction of year two jaden daniels and everything's trending up and you got to continue this momentum what are you going to take his most important and it uh part weapon teammate brother away you're just going to take it away over money come on it would be a choice get out of here admit that's the same way i felt about T.J.

18:17Rich Eisen:Watt's going to stay in Washington. I mean, in Pittsburgh, this is going to happen in Washington. I just think by the end of the day, no matter what you're putting on your football hope chest, it's not going to be Terry McLaurin by the end of the day. And my vision board. I just would be stunned if they can't figure this thing out for Terry McLaurin. What else, Chris? I want to talk about one of your boys. I want to talk about Baker Mayfield. You saw him at American Century. He looked great. The championship, Yes. American century championship. He looked great. Yes, sir. The Bucs have a real chance to be the one seed in the NFC.

18:55Everybody's back. All 11 on offense. New offensive coordinator. That's fine. They've done that before. I know. Baker Mayfield. What? Top eight quarterback.

19:03Rich Eisen:We saw the GM list. Can you put up the Buccaneers schedule if you don't mind? I know. Tristan Wirth's dealing with an issue, but there's a chance he could practice end of August and be back for week one. order to be the one seed i mean they this would be one of the i didn't even mention this team at the very beginning of the of our of our show today when you were like somebody other than the chiefs the eagles gonna have the best record in the nf most wins in the nfl this would this would be one of your candidates if they're the one seed right so um they do play philly they play Detroit home for Philly.

19:42Rich Eisen:No, I know that. I'm just looking to see if they've gone and had success, come up with enough wins elsewhere and dominate their division. Can they do it? Back half of the schedule is pretty favorable. You're assuming that the NFC South is going to mostly stink on the proverbial ice again. For it to go the Bucks way to be the ones he'd. Yes. I would assume that NFC West at Ram stuff week 12. Right. And an out-of-conference, if you will, 17th game opponent is Houston. In Houston. They started two with two on the road. Could 13 wins be the one seed in the NFC? 13 wins. It's possible, but I never want to go against my guy.

20:30Rich Eisen:I know.

20:33Rich Eisen:but sure I'll just this is on the borderline of overreaction but I you know how to push my buttons we're just thinking about other teams right now I mean it's July 21st they'd have to dominate their division they'd have to win their games against Philadelphia and Detroit and San Francisco and the Rams and so these are teams that they'd probably have to beat and have as a back pocket tie break to win the top seed in the conference. Right. They'd have to win these games. There's a path to 13 wins for the buck. That's all I'm saying. No, I see it. Just they'd have to stay healthy and everything would have to click.

21:16Rich Eisen:And they would need the big man back on the line. That is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Rich Eisen here. Running a small business means every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow. The challenge? Finding that person without sorting through resumes. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent. With Hiring Pro, you can hire with confidence and build the team you need. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com.

21:48Rich Eisen:Terms and conditions apply. Quick break to tell you some game time tips. When you're hosting during football season, you've got to be ready for every kind of craving. Somebody wants fresh pizza. Somebody wants crispy wings. Somebody's asking if there's sliders. That's when you need more than one call in the playbook. Frigidaire offers ranges and wall ovens with over 15 cooking modes, so you can tackle hosting with confidence. There's Stone Baked Pizza for restaurant-quality pizza in as little as two minutes, Air Fry Mode for crispy favorites, and Air Sous Vide for juicy, tender sliders. Plus, there's slow cook, no preheat, and more.

22:21Stone Baked Pizza and Air Fry, both built right in your oven. That's the Game Time MVP combo. So when you're hosting before kickoff, Frigidaire helps you cover every craving. Available at the Home Depot. Outdoers get more done. Only when using Stone-Bake Pizza mode, cook time requires preheat and reheat and may vary based on ingredients. What else? All right, three more, Rich, before we wrap up here. Just thinking about, obviously, you know, the TJ Watt situation. Micah Parsons, Trey Hendrickson kind of lost in this. It seems like he'd be willing to sit out games maybe if it came to that. I can't think that the Bengals will allow that to happen and will come up with something.

22:55But if he does play week one, Trey Hendrickson,

22:58Rich Eisen:against the Browns, the Bengals are winning the AFC North. I don't think that's an overreaction at all. I don't think it's an overreaction at all. If they can tighten the bolts here, you know, on defense, give it one fewer touchdown. Let's go. And don't start slow and stay healthy. Where Higgins doesn't have like the soft tissue that keeps him out one week or Burrow goes through something, you know, significant. Why not? Why not? They're just as good as anybody else. Last year, last, you know, previously, last we saw the Cincinnati Bengals, they were that team that don't let them in the tournament.

23:42Rich Eisen:Right. Okay. So. They were what, nine and eight last year? They were. And they lost five games when they scored like 34 more points. Yeah. Okay, go three and two in those games when you should win all of them, really. Just don't let them in. Don't let them in the tournament. Don't let them in the tournament. I think 12 and five wins the AFC North. Sure. I mean, you can't sit here and say the Bengals stink last year, the defense stunk. I mean, you can't say that because it was true. But by saying that this year can't be different. Oh, right. I agree. And that they don't have a division winning roster or chance or coaching staff.