In short
NFL contract/trade talk and preseason/early-season outlook, centered on whether the Bengals would trade pass rusher Trey Hendrickson, plus holdout/availability issues for other stars (Micah Parsons, Terry McLaurin) and quarterback competitions (Browns, Giants).
Guests
No guests appear in this transcript segment; it’s Rich Eisen solo with references to upcoming guests Gerald McCoy (hour 2) and Mike Florio (hour 3).
Guest backgrounds (mentioned, not interviewed): Gerald McCoy is a six-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle. Mike Florio is the NFL writer/host associated with Pro Football Talk.
Key claims
Bengals trading Hendrickson is unlikely because they need him for defense at season start; Patriots could offer first/second-round picks but it’s a “challenge” due to timing/compensation. Cowboys should sign Micah Parsons before week one. Commanders should get Terry McLaurin back and be “full go.”
Notable examples
Trey Hendrickson vs. Burrow/Chase/Higgins; McLaurin’s PUP status; Browns QB competition likely favoring Joe Flacco over Shadour Sanders and Dylan Gabriel; Giants starting Russell Wilson with Jackson Dart as a developing option.
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1:35 to 2:58
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Preseason Highlights and Previous Guests
2:58 to 4:55
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Discussion on Holdouts: Trey Hendrickson and Terry McLaurin
4:55 to 7:22
Analysis of the contract situations of key NFL players and their impact on teams.
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Trade Rumors and Team Strategies
7:22 to 11:14
Rich discusses the potential trade of Trey Hendrickson and its implications.
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The Impact of Contractual Decisions
11:14 to 12:10
Exploring the implications of NFL players' contract negotiations on their teams.
“Hey, Shamar Stewart, listen, see quarterback, hit quarterback, even if it's his own in practice.”
Fan Reactions and Nostalgia
12:10 to 14:01
Rich and the team discuss fan engagement and personal connections to sports history.
“Let me go through Del Tufo's bandwagon fandom transfer.”
Nostalgia and NFL Memories
14:01 to 16:59
Rich reminisces about his time at ESPN and the NFL.
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Analyzing Caleb Williams' performance and the Bears' prospects.
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Quarterback Choices and Predictions
24:17 to 28:00
Discussion on various NFL quarterbacks and their team situations.
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Quarterback Dynamics in Cleveland
28:00 to 35:44
Discussion on the potential starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns and the competition among the players.
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Giants' Quarterback Situation
35:44 to 40:39
Analysis of the New York Giants' quarterback situation, focusing on Russell Wilson and Jackson Dart.
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42:10 to 44:16
Hear Rich's emotional response to returning to SportsCenter and his thoughts on past segments.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Right now, get up to 15 % off select storage solutions. Put heavy-duty HDX totes to good use, protecting what's important to you. The solid, impact-resistant design prevents cracking. And the clear base and sides make items easy to find, even when the totes are stacked. Find select shelving and tote storage up to 15 % off at the Home Depot to organize every room in your home, from your garage to your attic. Visit homedepot.com. How doers get more done. This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Shave ice by the beach. A trip to the state fair. And a throwback flick at the local drive-in. They're more than just items to check off the summer bucket list.
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1:21I kind of set the tone for the team, the season and everything. Today's gasps. Six-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle Gerald McCoy. Plus, your phone calls, latest news, overreaction Monday, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
1:39Rich Eisen:Well, that's correct. Welcome to this edition of the Rich Eisen Show. I am Rich Eisen. I am an entertainer and a competitor. All rolled into one. Perfect timing to come back from my final walkabout before the National Football League season kicks in in earnest. Just 844-204-RICH is the number to dial whether you're taking in this show, watching the Roku channel, or listening to us on the Infinity Sports Network or the Odyssey app. There's also Sirius XM channel 375. Lots going on in our neighborhood. We welcome in two guests, my guy from NFL Game Day morning. I'm going to be spending a ton of Sundays with him very shortly.
2:15Gerald McCoy will be here in studio in hour number two. Mike Florio in hour number three. And not because he called me out in a post today on Pro Football Talk. Honestly, I invited him before I saw the post. You did? I'm not lying. I mean, he should edit that then. No, no, no, he shouldn't. It's all good. It's all good. So Mike Fleur will be here in studio in hour number three. As many of you may have heard, this is the first of two shows I'm doing today, doing the Rich Eisen show here over the next three hours. And then later on tonight, I'm going into my hot tub and taking the time machine back to 2003.
2:50The last time I did a SportsCenter, I will be hosting SportsCenter tonight on ESPN. Serving sports fans everywhere back in the day. The man on the left with the hair was with the worldwide leader in sports. And as soon as Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are done calling the action in Washington, D.C. between the Bengals and the Washington Commanders, I will be in the Los Angeles-based studio of SportsCenter going back in time. that is tonight, and we'll talk about that on the program. So lots going on in our neighborhood in advance of the move of this program to Disney Plus and ESPN Radio in a couple weeks' time.
3:32Good to see you over there, Christopher Brockman. How are you? It's great to see you, man. How was your week last week? It was great. And in that regard, I do want to thank Tom Pelissero, Mike, the Miz Mezzanine, the Miz being here, and, of course, O'Shea Jackson Jr. And I want to thank his co-host, Marshawn Lynch, for being here for a full hour of the program. And Mike Del Tufo saying, oh, God, because I imagine what I saw on the real Mike Del Tufo's finger on the dump button to use the phrase. I burned my ear. Hold on. You might have been signaling in Morse code to the people back in the way that you were tapping that.
4:12When he was actually listening. Oh, I listened the whole time. Because you missed a few. And I'm like, are you serious? And I'm doing this. I'm doing this. And he goes this. You have a plus or minus five or six, maybe eight seconds. Yeah, that's fine. But I mean, for somebody like Marshawn Lynch being here, you've got to focus. I don't think you got all of them. I got all. You did not, Mike. I got all of them. You looked up from your phone at one point and was like, what? And I'm like, I hit it. I just said MF. Can we hit this? Yeah, normally that should ring a bell. Good to see you, Christopher.
4:48Good to see you. Mike Del Tufo, again, I hope your finger's not cramped from the dumpster. Just so you're not. Don't deflect. Good to see you, sir. How are you, TJ Jefferson? Candles lit. Lots. I mean, are you going back to the future, or are you going ahead to the future? We'll talk about that later. I'm excited for tonight. We'll talk about that later on the program. The Bengals are playing tonight, and I don't know if Trey Hendrickson will be on the sideline this evening. I doubt it. It's a road game. He's holding in. He will not be, I imagine, on the sideline this evening. But the question is, will he be with the Bengals?
5:26And on the other sideline, Terry McLaurin, he's now off the putt list. So they can't use the fact that he's not physically able to perform as any sort of fig leaf for what's going on contractually between him and the team. So this evening's contest features two of the three most famous talked about Holdens in the National Football League right now, Trey Hendrickson. And then, of course, Terry McLaurin. And we also know Micah Parsons. It was 17 days ago that he issued his trade demand. And it's 17 days from now when the Cowboys and the Eagles will be having at it for our viewing pleasure on NBC.
6:05Oh, baby. To kick off the season. And the number of times that I saw while I was on my European walkabout, a Jerry Jones soundbite crossed my phone.
6:14Rich Eisen:I mean, basically saying, he's under contract. So, of course, I'm not talking. What do you mean? What do I have to? Whatever do I have to talk with him about? I don't understand. There is less pie. Let's talk about Squirrel. Let's talk about that Netflix thing that's going on, that weird, that we got going on. One of my favorites, the Squirrel. There's a lot to talk about. But this evening, with the focus in D.C., Micah Parsons, again, he's under contract. Everyone's under contract, by the way. That's what they're holding in to get new ones. And Micah's the youngest one. The reason why the two guys tonight have not gotten their contracts yet is that their clock is, you know, Mona Lisa Vito ticking, where they are now, you know, entering their 30s.
6:58and I guess the issue is we don't want to pay you a ton of money if we're not going to get
7:03Rich Eisen:the production out of you towards the back end of the contract. I don't know what it is but bottom line, certainly with McLaurin now off pup and we'll have to figure out whether his hold-in is no longer as you can tell, oh, my mom we'll find out but he's got to get into camp and he's got to get on the same field as jayden daniels i mean even cliff kingsbury is saying until mclaurin's here we can't be full go and it's kind of crazy that you're not full go on the back end of august like it's now time full go but we fans and those coaches for whom midnight is already struck in the world of negotiating the nfl um midnight's a moving target And when it comes to the Bengals, it appears midnight has struck in the mind's eye of the front office to potentially trade Trey Hendricks.
8:04Rich Eisen:And he's the first one where we've been hearing from somebody like Rapsheet and Tom Pelissero, who was in this chair one week ago at this very time, that it's being entertained. Even though a trade will be a real challenge, as Rapsheet mentioned. the challenge being, you know, what compensation are you going to get for this guy? Certainly at the eve of the season, when another team knows, well, he might not be there for you. So here's a bag of footballs. Here's something way less than the first or second round draft choice that could be worth Trey Hendrickson. So somebody asked Elliot Wolfe, who I believe you know, Chris Brockman.
8:51Very familiar, yes. I believe he was the guy that you were not terribly happy with two years ago. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. But now you're loving him. I think he's doing great.
9:00Rich Eisen:He's doing a great job. Shopping the groceries. Doing a great job. Doing a great job. Somebody just went in because he can't answer questions about would you trade for Trey Hendrickson. Guess what? As we've established, he's under contract somewhere else. He's not going to answer that question. So let's kind of beat around the bush and say, would you give up a first or a second round draft choice this close to the beginning of the season if you think it would help the New England Patriots? Good way to get through that loophole. Would you be willing to give up in a trade a second or maybe even a first round pick to make your team better this year?
9:36Sure. Just doing what's best for the team. If there's a player out there that we feel like can help us, and it costs that, then we would consider doing that. Oh, nope, to Cincinnati. I can think of two players who are worth those draft compensations. You know what the Patriots can do? Because I do believe they have. I wrote it down somewhere. I don't have my notebook in front of me because I haven't put everything here. I think they have$100 million in cap space, right? A bajillion. A bajillion. Why don't they get all three of them? That sounds wonderful. use every draft choice in the next in the 2025 2026 draft they don't want to go to Pittsburgh anyway New England's not very welcome there in the western part of Pennsylvania just trade for them all why not get them all now while you got the muscle don't worry Mike somebody hot on ESPN right now
10:27Rich Eisen:you're not paying attention I'm reading it you're reading on ESPN what we're talking about right now. Good job, Mike. Hey, you know what? It makes no... By the way, great message from Elliott Wolfe. Hey, to Cincinnati. Sort of Fraser Crane. Yes? I'm listening. Hello. Let's get them all. Let's hit them all now while we got the money. We have a first round. A little late on the Pantangeli button over there. We have second round. Hey, we have caps. It makes no sense for anybody to trade anybody that's involved in a holding right now. The Bengals need Trey Hendrickson. You just got Burrow his two wide receivers under contract forever and a day.
11:10Rich Eisen:You're now going to take the defense that was the problem last year and kneecap it? Hey, Shamar Stewart, listen, see quarterback, hit quarterback, even if it's his own in practice. We get it. We get it. We get it, Shamar. You go hunt quarterbacks for a living. That said, let's get somebody who's a little bit more of an adult in the room. and pay him instead of having him sit there and moping. I feel so bad. I understand in this day and age when you feel bad for an athlete that's looking for$30 million a year, you're like, that's a very small, tiny violin. I can't hear you playing right now. But come on.
11:51What are we doing? You're going to trade Trey Hendrickson? Oh, those draft choices. When you are taking on the Cleveland Browns and their entertainers and their competitors, you know, and in week one. And you're going to go into battle without Trey Hendrickson?
12:09Rich Eisen:Really? Is that what you're going to do? And when you're the commanders in year two with Jaden Daniels, are you really going to go into the season with Terry McLaurin standing on the sideline because you couldn't figure out how to pace somebody who's turning 30 at the wide receiver position? and neither of these guys are are going to be causing you to get a phone call at two in the morning saying you never guess what this guy's done so i i kind of feel like we've been down this road and if there is any way tj jefferson to get you to sign this piece of paper Hold on, I've got it here. Let me go through Del Tufo's bandwagon fandom transfer.
13:02There's another bandwagon transfer for you. Release of fandom from the Dallas Cowboys. Right there. TJ Jefferson, I'm sorry if we didn't set up this shot beforehand. If there's any way for you to sign this, the rumor that the Packers have put a package on the table for the Dallas Cowboys to trade Micah Parsons to Green Bay? Would this get you to sign this piece of paper that fast? Well, here's the deal. You were gone on your walkabout, so you missed this. Brockman, Pelissero, and I went to the Netflix premiere of the Cowboys documentary. Yes, we did. And here's the deal, right? I'm stuck. There's no getting out, Rich.
13:39Like, once you're in there, you're in there for life. What does that mean? Which means, Chris, go ahead and explain it. Here's what it means. It means we were there for a couple hours. We saw Jerry Jones. We saw Emmett. We saw the cheerleaders. We watched episode three, and it was the 92 NFC Championship game, and TJ's back. That's all you need to know. He's back. He was hooting and hollering. He was booing the Niners on the screen. He booed Jerry Rice and Steve Young. I did. And Dwight Clark, too. And then he cheered. He was yelling. Oh, man, I got to say, I kind of got caught up, too. It was pretty awesome.
14:17So you can understand, Rich. It's like you go back and you remember the good times. Of course. And it's like, I don't know. I can't leave. Hey, listen, I get it.
14:26Rich Eisen:And you didn't have no good times with the Jets. Tonight, I'm going back in. Yeah, you're about it. After 22 years of saying I'm coming out of the smoke in NFL Network, I'm going to start beating the pants off these people and handed me a cardboard box 22 years ago. And tonight I'm going to be like, hey, welcome to SportsCenter. You guys are all on La Cosa Nostra. You guys can't quit the life. I know, but I have nothing but warm memories from back then. I totally, truly, I do. I mean, I met my wife there, my children are ESPN children, but that said, TJ, at the end of the day, when I showed up at ESPN in 1996 with all that hair and the fresh face, all of that good stuff, that was in 1996, 29 years ago.
15:12Rich Eisen:The Cowboys were fresh off of three out of four. Yeah, life is great. And now they're just blowing the dust off the Netflix documentary, and you're all back in. I was never out. If they don't sign Micah Parsons before week one, it would be such dereliction of duty. I can't even fathom it that you don't sign this guy. And if you don't, then he's under contract. And the reason why is because he's a 26-year-old that shook the hand of the owner, and he's like, we've got a deal. And he can't get past the fact that he's a 26-year-old saying, talk to my agent. And that's the reason why we're in this standoff?
15:56Rich Eisen:I don't believe it. I think the Joneses are going to get this deal done, and I think the Commanders are going to get the deal done with McLaurin. And as for the Bengals, though, that one I don't know. But to say to Joe Burrow, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. We've got Chase locked up and we got Higgins for you. But the defense, did we tell you we got Chase and Higgins locked up for you? You heard that, right? We got Chase and Higgins. We got two Chases. You guys. You got Jamar and Brown. Yep. First and last names. You got Chase Chase. But they're going to have to be chasing points. That's it. Oh, man, I'm fired up.
16:40Football season's here. Let's go. We're back. Burn that contract. Oh, no. We'll keep that. All right. Go ahead. 844-204-RICH. Number to dial. The Browns have a choice to make. The Colts have a choice to make. Do the Giants have a choice to make at quarterback? That's called a tease. That's next. This is the Rich Eisen Show here on a very busy for me Monday.
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19:36That's the idea, is let's get Caleb Williams, a coach who can scheme it up, who's with him in the quarterback room, who's with him in every single step of life, and he's coaching him hard, and that's why they got Ben Johnson. Let's get him that. Let's get him some more muscle up front. Right? Let's throw everything in the kitchen sink at him. Let's get him another tight end in the draft. Another wide receiver. And another wide receiver. And let's put those rookies out there against the Buffalo Bills. And let's beat the Buffalo Bills about the head, neck, chest, and body. And shut them out 38-0.
20:24let's do that now listen bears fans are just ready to just jump head over heels into this whole thing but they also know better a lot of battle scars i mean they have they've got a lot of you know quarterback pts battle scars sure i mean listen but i'll tell you man i'll tell you what, man. Thank you, man. Loveland, Colston Loveland, obviously, I'm biased, but he is a terrific tight end. Terrific tight end. And Cole Komet together. And Adunze and DJ Moore and the rest of that squad. This is what we're talking about. I like it. This is how you upend the NFC. In terms of conversations and predictions and who's making it and who's not.
21:19that's how you upend the NFC North that's how you get everybody in I believe if I'm not mistaken three weeks from tonight week one will be entirely in the books with the exception of the Monday Night Football debut of the 2025 season on ESPN and the family of networks when Joe and Troy are in that stadium in Chicago when it's the Vikings at the Bears and J.J. McCarthy getting his first career start against Caleb Williams, who I believe Bears fans deep down believe it's his first career start, too. Because last year was such a disaster. Even though they went 4-2 with a situation where he was left to his own devices on what film to watch.
22:11and also, as we learned, when we did the Bears game in London against the Jaguars on NFL Network, which was the height of the Eberflus era with Caleb Williams when Williams threw for four touchdowns and Komet was doing everything from catching touchdowns to holding on extra points on touchdowns that he helped create, that we learned that they weren't scripting the first 15 plays for the kid. either and the one positives of last year the two positives from last year is one he got his ass beat so he got that out of the way hopefully and two he didn't say a word nothing zero didn't say a thing while we now know in retrospect everything that he and his father or were concerned about over being drafted by the Bears was coming true.
23:15And he didn't say a word. And now here he looked like this last night in a preseason game. Now, obviously, Josh Allen's playing. There would be answers for the Bills that were not available to them last night. With James Cook now in the fold and signed. And I don't know if this is part of the overreaction Monday that's coming up later on. That the Bills window is no longer. their window. Rich, it's a preseason game. Understood. Says a man who wagers on these affairs with hard-earned American dollars. Overs are like 20-2. Got it.
23:54Rich Eisen:But that's exactly what you want to see. Certainly if you're hearing, well, Caleb Williams is having trouble grasping this, and he's, you know, missing the throwing net there, and all of the videos that we've seen throughout the summer. This is what you wanted to see, as we saw last night on Fox. Here's the coach afterwards. He's really been locked in. You know, anytime you're a young player, there's usually a couple steps forward and one step back. And that's really been the story of his training camp. And he and I have been really open and honest about that as we've gone through. And he's had some really good practices.
24:32And he's had a couple where it's like, that's not good enough, bud. So I thought really the three days of practice we had this week and this game were the most he stacked up good days in a row right now. So the challenge is going to be to keep pushing in that direction. And then, you know, 21 days from now is probably when we're going to see him next. I imagine we're not going to see Caleb Williams in the third preseason game. I would doubt it. I don't think so. Like, let's put him into the season coming off of this performance. A couple of drives looking really good. This is what Caleb said about those aforementioned ups and downs afterwards.
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25:09Yeah, no, I think I had a couple of those practices throughout training camp. I feel like I took two steps forward. It's maybe a bad practice or small things that I felt like I got over, and then I took a step back. And so it's just being able to keep that mindset, the growth mindset, the idea that, you know, it's an understanding of that. Keep going. Keep growing. Keep getting after it. And keep leading these guys.
25:40Rich Eisen:All right. So there you go. Listen, two steps forward, one step back. You can take that. That's the way you win 66 % of your games in Major League Baseball. Two steps forward, one step back. They're your playoff team. Two steps forward, one step back. We're still here after Mike Del Tufo. Two steps forward, one step back. That was him on the dump button with Marshawn Lynch's hour on the Rich Eisen show on Friday. And we're still here. It's like Paul Abdul once said that, right? Right. Opposite to track. Two out of three ain't bad somebody wants also. That was a big look, right? Yes. This is not paradise.
26:12Again, everybody believes the Lions are going to be a little bit less than because they lost both their coordinators, right? This is the general sense.
26:20Rich Eisen:Again, we're in general sense mode right here. Vikings we need to see. Vikings need to see. With J.J. McCarthy, right? The Packers, Jordan Love's already gotten his left hand. Right? Who are the wide receivers? Well, there's many of them. I mean, which one? We just don't know whose day it is. That's more of a fantasy issue. Actual reality issue that kind of helps a team when you don't know which one's day it's going to be. Packers should be good. Yeah. Well, I just mentioned three playoff teams from last year. And then there's the Bears. And if the Bears look like that and play like that on defense without Eberflus, because, again, and you'll find this out too, sir, Eberflus knows how to coach defenses.
27:05And he's an excellent choice for the Cowboys at that D.C. position. Do you know what makes it even easier to coach defense? With Micah Parsons. Yeah, when the 11's out there. It's maybe a little bit easier. This is now a Bears segment, but I understand. I was the one who wrote the Cowboys into it. Look, man. Let's see. That's exactly what you want to see From the Bears Check that box What does it mean? No idea No idea But boy do you want to see that And we saw it Good for the Bears and good for Caleb He's going to go into the season with a nice Head of steam
27:40Rich Eisen:Browns are making their apparent Quarterback News This week I believe Kevin Stefanski said that after the preseason contest with the Browns. Boy, I wished Shadur was healthy so he could see how he's following up. You know, that... Man. Yeah, we talked about that all last week, especially with the Miz here, obviously a huge Browns fan. Just a bummer that the momentum from week one got kind of derailed. I still don't think, no matter it, Shadur, again, that game went down just before I left for my week off. he looked really, really smooth and good and making smart decisions. And great arm strength, great accuracy.
28:30Rich Eisen:And I don't believe even if Shador was able to perform in this last preseason game, he still wouldn't have been the starter of this team. I believe it's going to be Flacco. At the end of the day, they will go with Joe Flacco. So the question is, how are they going to keep four quarterbacks on their roster? Because Dylan Gabriel did look good. Although, if Shadour had the turnovers that Gabriel had, people would have been sending him to Canada. That's all. You know, that said, the only thing I think Shadour has accomplished with what he did against the Panthers is I believe it accomplished him to say, I hear all the noise and I'm going to either silence it or I'm going to use it.
29:27Rich Eisen:And I think he did both. And I think he proved he can play in this league. And I know it's preseason action, but let's not forget the manner in which he was born into this league and the manner in which he spent the first few weeks in camp. but I think what he accomplished is that whoever is playing quarterback for the Cleveland Browns in the regular season will get booed until he starts.
30:01I think that is what he accomplished. Whether it's merited or not, and I think Flacco, though, can silence the boos more than any of them because of what he did when he was comeback player of the year a few years ago. And plus, I think he's still got it. And that's why I think he's going to be the starter there. And the whole Dylan Gabriel business of what he said on the sidelines during this preseason contest. I believe he was talking with Aditi Kinkabualamai, longtime colleague at the NFL Network, about how he handles all of the conversations involving him in a competition with Shadour and obviously Kenny Pickett, who didn't play either and Flacco, this is what he had to say in response.
30:48It's just part of it. You know, there's entertainers and there's competitors, and I totally understand that, and my job is to compete, and that's what I'm focused on doing. Of course, we're doing this mid-game, but, you know, it's something that I'll get used to and just want to be the best team that I can and create an environment where we can all go do our best work. That's all we want to do. Okay. And, of course, everybody thought when you said there's entertainers and then there's competitors that he was referring to himself as a competitor and Shador Sanders as the entertainer.
31:23So he was asked to clarify or put more meat on the bones is what he had to say. All you in this room are entertainers and you have a job to do and I respect it, right? And I'm a competitor, so I have a job to do as well. and I think just understanding that, that's how I've lived by it and I've said that multiple times, so definitely not a new quote, but something that I've definitely said before. I'm all about our team and each other. I would never make that, and I've said it before. That's why it's interesting, but for me, I've explained it. Entertainers are you all, competitor. That's what I am and all my teammates, and we both have jobs to do, so that's it.
32:06There you go. You buy it? You like it? Yeah, absolutely. TJ? Not at all. You think he was furnished your door? I don't know, but that excuse or that reasoning just doesn't sound like you're the entertainers, and I don't know. Well, I mean, I think what he's saying is that the conversations that we have here on the show like this or others are the ones who are trying to get clicks or viewership or listenership or aggregation. and that's the entertainment part of it. And he's just competing. And so he blocks out the noise. And then maybe it's more a reflection of those who thought he was referring to Shadur about their thoughts on Shadur than his knowledge of how hard Shadur works, which I think he's got a front row seat to, don't you think?
32:54I mean, that kid just doesn't show up against the Panthers and look like that just because he's rolling footballs out. And again, it's just like, hey, Shadur is just, you know, didn't look like they got it against Carolina because it's all he does is just play by the seat of his pants. There's no preparation involved. There's no neck up ability. There's no nothing. And I'm sure he knows different, Dylan. But if he is referring to me as an entertainer, all I have to say about that is hit it. Like I'm a clown. I amuse you. What does that mean? I make you laugh. Is that what you mean by me being an entertainer?
33:27Well, we do have a segment called Residual Rich. Well, that's my acting. Well, I'm saying that makes you an entertainer. It's entertainment. Social accounts cut the clip without the question. Aditi had framed it as Dylan explained it afterwards. So it's really all the entertainment accounts created this narrative in the first place. So it's to drive the engagement to their accounts. Making Dylan's point. Right. It worked. They made their entertainment point. And Dylan's like, look, man, we're all competitors. At the end of the day, this is all just sitting around. It's so dumb. It's just us sitting around waiting for Browns hosting the Bengals.
34:07And who's going to be the starter? I believe it's going to be Flacco. The question is, how are you going to keep all four? I can't. Well, I mean, you could put one on a practice squad. Well, they have to put waivers. I know that. And that ain't going to happen. I don't think you're going to do that. Someone will get blamed. I mean, and Pickett hasn't played a lick. Yeah, he's the guy I feel kind of the most bad for. But you're not going to have old man Flacco and two rookies, though. You can't do that. You can't do that. seems that's not the best strategy. You can't do that. Seems like not a good strategy.
34:36You can't do that. Like if Flacco gets blown up by Trey Hendrickson, wait a minute, gets blown up by Shamar Stewart because he looks like Burrow. A little taller. That's true. I can't believe that story either. But what are you going to throw? You're going to throw in Dylan Gabriel or Shador in week one? No, you're not. So you've got to keep picket. And then the question is, who's third and fourth in the depth chart, and what is that going to do for their development, I guess? That's the story, really. And you're not going to have four active, so one of those guys is going to be inactive each game.
35:12So then that's a story. Shadour's inactive. No, Dillard's inactive. But the story is like, but you could, you know, now you're going to be shy, maybe a backup lineman or a backup corner or a special team person because you've got four quarterbacks. That's the question. And then what if in November Deshaun Watson gets cleared? Then what? I mean, although, you know what? None of that really is about competition, Chris. It's about entertaining. It's true. We've got to get Dylan back on here and say, what do you mean by that? And we're entertainers. We get it. Like I'm a clown, I am usual. I understand.
35:47Rich Eisen:Did he tell us to get our shine box? Joey Batts. I don't think so. Is there a quarterback competition with the Giants?
36:02I mean Jackson Dart looked pretty damn good He's looked great in two games But Russ made one of the Classic Russ Rainbow Beautiful Russell Wilson Is truly one of the best deep throwers I've ever seen You gotta give it up for him there Right? I mean it looks pretty Come on man I'm watching it right now It looks so pretty when it leaves his hand
36:27Rich Eisen:Oh, yeah. And when it lands in the hands of his receiver like it's a pillow. Guy's one of the best. Him and Rodgers are two of the best deep throwers I've seen in the 22 years that I've been with NFL Network. Unreal. Think about Russ at this point in his career, right? He's like that song, you know, I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was. He can do that once a game. It's just all the rest of it where you're just like, ugh. I know. You know? I know. But maybe, just maybe, we just got to get Malik Nabors healthy back out there. Yeah, what's up with that? I don't know. But it's, again, we're talking preseason, so what's the point?
37:13Rich Eisen:But Russ is still the starter. Jackson Dart, though, is one of those shiny objects that is appearing closer in the rearview mirror than he appears. He's the T-Rex in the rearview. And sounds the part, too, man. This is Jackson Dart after he scored twice, one in the air, one on the ground against the Jets. No, I think that they've done it with so many other quarterbacks. I trust them in the process. So I'm really just focused on each and every day. How can I get better? I've said this before. When I first got here, the amount of knowledge in that quarterback room was very humbling. So, you know, I'm just trying to catch up on a lot of information.
38:01You know, I want to get on the same level as the guys in my room. So, you know, I'm continuing to try to chase that each and every day and, you know, just listen. And, you know, I have great guys around me, great coaches who have won and done it at the highest level. So I just look forward to learning each and every day. Listen, I know day ball to a lot of Giants fans, they might be done with them. But the dude knows how to bring quarterbacks along. Ask a Bills fan.
38:27Rich Eisen:Ask an Alabama fan. Ask a Patriot fan. He's been around, man. Good coach. And it makes sense to go with Russ to start the season. It just really does. Because if you're going to start Jackson Dart and he starts to struggle, then you're going to throw Russ in there. It makes no sense. Throw Russ in there. You look at the schedule to begin the season. You're taking on the Washington Commanders to start before you're at Dallas, and then you're home for Kansas City and got the Chargers. I mean, those are four nasty-ass teams. And you want Russ dealing with that. Neck up, pre-snap. You want Russ to deal with that.
39:09Problem is, there's no good time to go to DART on this schedule. There's never any good time. You never know. I mean, obviously, what? Week five runs. Well, look at week five at New Orleans. That'll be easy. Yeah, but then DART suddenly, second career start at Denver, at Philly, San Francisco. You're not going to do it home for Philly either because that's a short week Thursday. day i don't know but again the the see how we're framing this that at some point russ is going to get replaced i think and if you're the jumper i know but if you're the giants though you gotta
39:34Rich Eisen:go let's maybe you won't and dart does get a sabbatical season because again this is not about winning the snoopy bowl this is about winning the super bowl and that might not happen this year but if you want to do it with dart what's the rush unless you're doing this for your job And that's the issue with management's keeping this staff, which shows patience, but they really have to mean it. Because this guy can coach. And this year might be rough. Correct. So suddenly you're going to have next year, Dart is going to have a whole new everything. So I hate Giants fans. Two things. One, Russ is going to be your starter.
40:19Rich Eisen:Two, I don't know when Dart's getting in. And here's three. But Brian Daybol, I don't think he's going anywhere. Makes no sense to replay unless it's 1-12 and the fans are just howling at the gates.
40:35Rich Eisen:But Dart looks good. I got that going for him. Which is great. Again, I feel like this entire segment, hey, Caleb looks good. Dart looks good. And another thing, Vonnegut. I am not just an entertainer. Okay? Like I'm a clown, I am usually. Okay, very good. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial here on the program. Don't you dare move. Rich Eisen here. We talk a lot about battles in sports. Teams battling through adversity. Athletes fighting for every yard. The toughest warriors I've ever seen, though, aren't on the field. They're kids fighting cancer. They're families standing beside them. Doctors, nurses, caregivers.
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42:45I send my kudos to you, sir, through this microphone. The executive at ESPN who's been so, so doggedly determined to get us. And yours truly. He's like, do you want to do a sports center in advance? And I'm like, really? Because I haven't done one in a long time. And so tonight, I'm doing it. After Monday Night Football. And I cannot believe it. I cannot believe it. I'm getting emotional thinking about it. I don't know what it's going to be like when I'm sitting in the chair hearing the SportsCenter theme. Yeah, they're like, 10. I can't tell you, man. I'll talk about it tomorrow. But I never thought this would be possible.
43:29You're going to cry. I might. Because as you know, I've got a touch of the Vermeule in me. Yeah, you're going to tear. I might. I might. And the production staff that I've already been connected with, they've been terrific. because we are going to go down memory lane this evening. Obviously, we're going to cover. I said, load me up with highlights. You got it. Load me. I mean, catchphrases, what have you. But tonight, there's going to be a bunch of baseball games that I'll be doing highlights for. I said, just load me up. I got a top 10. They asked me, do I want to do a not top 10? And I'm like, no.
44:03That's part of the reason maybe why I got a cardboard box is I complained about the not top 10. I was one of the only people. And I'm like, wait a minute. So we're about celebrating athletes.
44:14Rich Eisen:We give them an award show. True. We're about celebrating athletes and their achievements, except for this one segment. So let's clown them? I'm like, what are we doing clowning these people? These men and women who put it all on the line, and when they don't perform well, we'll put an extra spotlight on that? I see your point. I complained about that and also the bottom line ticker. I'm like, I'm crafting an on-camera lead-in to draw you a highlight, and you're putting the final score across my stomach. Can we fix the algorithm? Now I'm understanding why you got that box. Yeah, that's what you were saying.
44:56A lot of complaints there, Rich. What are we doing? But as you know, I'm going to be a team leader, Rich. You got your shine box. What are we doing? I've been away a long time.
45:06Rich Eisen:I don't shine shoes no more. I just have a shine of your head. You know when you're locked in, focused and fearless. Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist, every stop, every logo three. From beyond the logo. Every did you see that moment. You bet. What records are going to be broken this season? All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN. All season long.
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Rich weighs in on reports that the Cincinnati Bengals are willing to listen to trade offers for Trey Hendrickson in lieu of a new contract for the disgruntled hold-in DE.
Rich reacts to Caleb Williams’ impressive performance running head coach Ben Johnson’s offense in the Chicago Bears preseason win over the Buffalo Bills, breaks down rookie Dillon Gabriel’s NFL debut and what it could mean for the Cleveland Browns’ QB competition, and says if Giants QB Russell Wilson should be looking over his shoulder at Jaxson Dart after the rookie’s latest impressive showing.
Rich reveals that following Monday Night Football this evening he’ll be hosting ESPN’s ‘SportsCenter’ for the first time in 20 years.
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