Reaction to AJ Lee's return to WWE and interview with WWE Superstar Grayson Waller

28:06So it tells you that for the rap he gets, he wants to do right by John Cena, it appears. So you're going to do it right. It's going to be interesting. Like I said, a nice little throwback, nice little nod. Ohio Valley Wrestling, class of 2002, I believe. I did a top five on the Rich Eisen show I think last year, earlier this year. which you can find on all ESPN platforms, by the way. But, yeah, I did a top five of the top five greatest draft classes of all time, and the OVW class came in at number four. We're talking Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Stelton Benjamin, Dave Bautista, and Randall K. Thornton.

28:51Come on now. Come on now. All in the same class.

28:56O'Shea:Yeah. Yes, sir. That's a great pickup. Yeah. They're going to go at it. it's looking like you know it's not fully announced but all the things that we're talking about in this short amount of time are all teases for uh wrestlepalooza and brock and cena is going down the wwe is going to want to put on a major show for the for their first espn ple and i mean we waiting on confirmation but tj ain't no way we're not gonna be there right I mean, look, we're putting the word out. Come on, man. Fingers crossed. I've been on the app, TJ. I've been on the app, and I look around, and I look around, and I'm like.

29:39You know, there's always all this speculation on, you know, I don't want to get into it with us and, you know, who we cover and what we cover. We're just in a position now where we're here and someone else is here, so we've got to kind of stay here. And if you know, you know, if you think about it, really use your mind, you'll get it. And if you don't get it, then you don't get it.

30:03O'Shea:All I'm saying, it's comfortable in the mountains house.

30:09Come on, baby, I'm using these Disney dollars. You know, another thing, too, man, I know that he's not your favorite guy right now, but I think it also says a lot, these returns about Seth Rollins. because think about some of the bigger returns that have happened in the last few years. WrestleMania 38, we just talked about. Dallas. Seth Rollins standing in the middle of the ring, doesn't know who his opponent is. All of a sudden, wrestling has more than one. Royal family. Cody comes back. Incredible pop. Who's right in the middle of that? Seth Rollins. SummerSlam, 2000, what, 23? Chicago, sitting there outside of the steel cage.

30:52You know, you think the show's going off the air, and then there comes CM Punk, who's, you know, right there front and center, Seth Rollins. And then you've got AJ Lee coming back, one of the great pops of all time. And who's there up in the stands watching his wife take a crucial beat down, Seth Rollins. He's just kind of like the Forrest Gump punk with the WWE, man, when something big happens, it seems like. Yeah. Seth is right there.

31:25O'Shea:And, you know, like I said, I'm sure Colby Lopez is an amazing guy. I'm sure he's hilarious. I'm sure he's loyal and trustworthy. I'm sure he's a stand-up citizen in the community. But Seth Rollins, the character? I hate you, Seth. I hate your guts, bro. You know what that reminded me of, too, bro? a couple weeks ago when I was like yelling at you about like, why you calling Triple H Paul? You don't know him. And then you remember what happened? I got a text message. Listen to this. This fool got on me on the show. On the show about calling Triple H Paul, which it says at the end of credits of every episode.

32:14O'Shea:And like, then after the cameras are off, he gets a text from Colby in the phone it says Colby the pop calling the kettle himself the thing is right oh my god hold on wait I like to be comfortable when people lie to me I did work with Colby okay you know what I'm saying I worked with Seth Rollins too but at the end of those shows it was Colby who said to me hey man, kick down my number so that's, you know, if he had said it during the show, that would have been Seth right, but Seth didn't do that but Colby because you know, we don't live far from each other in Los Angeles oh, what a flex

33:12O'Shea:we're almost done here I'm going to tell you right now I'm going to tell you right now When you saw that, I'm surprised we haven't even talked about it. You just looked at me and you called me a word that would get bleeped out on Disney. But it starts with an N. And luckily it was with an A and not a hard ER because we don't do that. Yeah, that's right. A naysay. Anyway, one more thing. There's only one more match that they're teasing. Actually, right now we're recording this on Monday because of my filming schedule. Yeah. Actually, Raw is going on right now, and we're kind of missing out. There's a little controversy with Stephanie Viqueira right now.

33:53What is going on?

33:55O'Shea:They say that she's going to be ready for the match, but the contract signing that was supposed to go down, they said it's not happening tonight on Monday Night Raw. We turned the TV off, so we don't know what's happening right now as we speak. But that's still up in the air, bro. And I don't know if I want to see the winner between Stephanie and Io yet anyway. but like I need that match I need it and also I apologize to the friend of the show Stephanie Baccarat I didn't list her in this AJ of course I want Stephanie Baccarat and AJ I want Stephanie Baccarat to wrestle everybody alright everybody like Gary Oldham said in what movie was that when he just yelled out that one Jurassic Park I don't really be knowing movies anything I'll tell you in a second Is our guest confirmed that you're going to be talking to?

34:46Yeah, so tomorrow we're going to go way down under to get this guy, Grayson Waller. Grayson Waller is entertaining, bro. He really is.

34:55O'Shea:Bro, one of the best trash talkers. Crazy. He's got a crazy trap workout, too, with Seamus, dude. That dude's a beast. One of the best trash talkers that they got. one of the funniest heels that they got right now. Yeah, man. Stomping the fans' phone the other day. Bro, him and a new day together. Him and a new day together is just the most random thing ever, right? And then Kofi comes out. Fan has his phone out. Kofi slaps the phone out. Woods kicks it. Grayson steps on it. I'm like, yo, y 'all are doing the most right now. Come on. Back up. Back up. All right, get behind the ramp, all right?

35:38O'Shea:That's the whole problem. Y 'all trying to do too much. But very excited to see you conduct the interview with Grayson. Hopefully things work out and I can hop in, you know, see what's going on. But I'm going to have a couple of questions. See, I've been to Australia a few times, man. I love some Australia, bro. Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy. So I got some Australian questions for him. By the way, if anybody asks, I'm a Melbourne guy myself. Shout out to Adelaide, too. Adelaide's real nice. Perth got the beaches. They also got the gray white sharks. Sydney's got Bondi Beach, bro. Their clothing is optional.

36:16I know this because I saw it. I'm just saying. You said it.

36:23O'Shea:I'm just saying. You know what I mean? By the way, I almost got kicked out of a club in Sydney for having Altoids that the doorman thought, I guess, was a tent of drugs. And I'm sure I'll probably share that story with Jason Waller tomorrow. Absolutely. Not TJ Jefferson. Not my TJ. I was getting escorted out the building, bro. Not my TJ, bro.

36:52O'Shea:Before we go, though, have you ever told the people about the movie? I don't know. We just keep saying you're doing a movie, but we actually broke down a little bit who's in it with you. What can you share with us about that? Yeah, right now, the movie's kind of untitled, but what it's previously known under as is, let's just say, Shafidz, if you guys remember that joke. And it's myself, my man Mason Tames, I believe that's how you say his last name. He played Hiccup in How to Train Your Dragon in the live action one, and he's in the film. Great kid. I love that dude. we both got Gerard Butler stories and then my man Dave Franco who's one of my best friends that I've received through this career of mine and Peter Dinklage I mean who don't love Peter Dinklage and it's a road trip comedy and it gets crazy like this is up there with cocaine bear for me as like it's just certain moments in the film where I'm This ridiculousness?

38:02O'Shea:This is wild. Yeah, like this is crazy. We go through it a little bit. But as always, you know, I'm going to prevail. And it's funny, man. It's funny. My man Macon Blair is directing it. I love working with Macon so far. He is a director that knows what he wants, which makes work so much easier. And yeah, he let your boy improv. And I like that. You know, I get to add a little bit of my own funny. Because writing comedy is already hard. And you don't know who's going to get the role, who you're going to be able to see. So you guys got to kind of meet in the middle and Macon is such a collaborator.

38:39O'Shea:So I'm having a good time, man. Living just enough for the city. Top man. I love to hear that. Love to hear that. How much longer you've got on this joint? I will be back home and doing in-studio NCWs October 1st. I will be back in LA, man. Not too far away. Not too far away. All right, cool. because Liz asked me about that today. We got to get a photographer for some stuff. And I was like, I think we'll be back the first week of October. So, yeah. Liz. Liz. TJ trying, all right? Don't get on TJ. You know how he is, all right? He got a good heart. Listen. Liz and Sarah said they missed you today, by the way.

39:20Oh! And then I responded with bleep him. But anyway. Yeah. So naysayer might have got thrown out there too. But listen, it's good to see you, my dog. Yeah, man. And so I guess right now what we'll do is we will head into the Thunder from Down Under. Is that weird to call him that?

39:43O'Shea:Nope. It's not weird. It's not weird at all, man. Do you have an intro for him? No, that's your job. You conduct an interview, bro. Have a good interview, man. Kill it. Ladies and gentlemen, we bring you Grayson Waller. Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, he is a Tim Tam tyrant, a Vegemite villain from Australia, from Sydney to be exact. The Grayson Waller effect has graced the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. Former tag team champion Grayson Waller, welcome to the pod. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Great to see you. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to sit in your car. you're probably in a Wendy's parking lot maybe Chick-fil-A you know whatever it is thank you for taking your time to get in your car and do this today yeah I'm on a movie set and I had to pull over to the side because I got a podcast that I do on the rec so I made sure that I spent some time are you an assistant or something?

40:44that's awesome man

40:46O'Shea:nah I'm a principal actor it's fine though number one on the call sheet you know what time it is that's cool But, Grayson, you're one of the funniest superstars that they have back there, man. You put in a lot of work, not only inside the ring, but outside the ring. You are nothing but entertaining. But before we get into all that, we got to know, when did you get bit by the wrestling bug? Oh, dude, like, I think I'm like a lot of the guys, you know, I got bit young. You know, I think I was like seven or eight. I remember in Australia, I could only get WCW. you so i remember seeing sting was the first thing i saw i don't know what it was about that i don't know if it's the comic book element just looks larger than life but i got bit and a lot of people grow out of it you know you go through high school and stuff wrestling sometimes isn't the coolest thing but uh i stuck with it and i i love it now more than probably i ever did and i from what i understand you were even though your time as a permanent substitute as you like to say you uh you still found time to hit wrestling shows what's that like to have to i mean you know put the put the button up on and then go out and wrestle and then come back and do the same thing the next week well i think it's a great example of what australian wrestling is like on an independent level i think talent wise australian wrestling is the same as everywhere in the world even better you know you look at the people who've come out like bronston reed rhea ripley karl fletcher who's killing it too like we had to work at the same time as we wrestled you know we didn't have the opportunities because there's just not the money in it that it is overseas so like I think me having to work all week and then on the weekend getting to wrestle that was the fun part of my life like I was working so that I could wrestle on the weekend that was fun and we all have you know those dreams of getting to big places but it didn't necessarily seem realistic at the time you know Rhea hadn't really knocked all the doors down that she has now and Bronson too so you know I was doing it because I loved it and lucky for me you know I was super talented I was super handsome, very athletic, and big things came from it.

42:50Grayson, you know, before we get too deep into your career, man, tell me about young Grayson coming up, man. What kind of kid you were? What kind of life did you have before you got into the business? Yeah, man, I did everything. You know, I was a guy who I wanted to make sure that I lived life. So even before I started wrestling, you know, I'd traveled the world. I'd had a bunch of different jobs. I'd been to the States a few times. I used to work at Disney. I used to work in summer camps. And it was always just like I just loved the American culture. I loved American sport. I loved American wrestling.

43:23Before I was actually training, I've been to PWG. I've been to Bowler. I've been to King of Trios. I've been to all the big independent shows in the States. So I was just doing everything I could to not live a normal life and get a full-time job. Because in my head, once you get the full-time job, that's your life done. All of a sudden, you've signed off. I'm doing that. So I was just doing everything I could to kind of keep that off And luckily for me, you know, I got to 25 and I was like, if I don't start trying for this wrestling thing, I'm always going to regret that I didn't do it. So I started a little bit later than most people, but I think that was an advantage because I had life experience when I started here.

43:58You know, I'm not like some of these kids at 18 or 21, even at the PC now who don't really, you know, know who they are yet. And they've got to go through all this and try and work out who they are. When I started wrestling, I knew who I was. And I get what you were saying, man, because this Saturday was my anniversary of leaving Pennsylvania. to move to Los Angeles. And, you know, a guy showed up at my house on Monday, told me he was driving to L.A. the next Monday, and I decided that night I'm going to take a chance and leave. And I did the next Monday. So I feel what you're saying, man. Sometimes you just got to make that move in order to chase the dream or else you're going to find yourself stuck, I feel.

44:34You have to. There's nothing worse in life than being the person who looks back and says, oh, imagine if. Oh, what if I did that? I couldn't handle that type of regret. I'm fine with the regret of, man, I shouldn't have done that. And I've said some stupid things. I've done some stupid things. But I'd rather do that than not do anything and kind of regret what could have happened. Yeah, bro. I mean, 26 years ago, I got in that minivan, and that led us to talking to you today. That was one of the best moves I ever made. What a treat. It was meant to be. We were meant to be here today, I feel. You know?

45:02No doubt. No doubt. What you got, Shane?

45:05O'Shea:26 years ago? Yeah, man. That's crazy. Yeah, man. We're going to get into your sports choices in a second. But so, Grayson, talk to us. You know, you said you started at 25. Talk to us about that welcome to wrestling moment, either a bump that you took that knocked you on your ass or just that moment where you were like, yeah, okay, this is the new path we're on. So where I train, I train from a place called PWA in Sydney. The head coaches are Madison Eagles, Robbie Eagles from New Japan, incredible coaches. um and you know at that school it takes you two years before you actually debut on shows which is unlike most places in america like i see some of these american indie guys i think they train like two weeks and they're wrestling already and that's why they're so terrible so for me the training was harder than the actual matches you know when i'm getting here with a guy like robbie eagles like if he sees something in you he's gonna hit you as hard in training as he would on a show so a lot of my early like welcome to wrestling moments were at training and then when I finally did get in the ring and start having these matches, it felt easy because I've done it all before.

46:13I've trained hard, so this didn't seem as bad. So I feel very lucky that I came up in the way that I did. And even when I got to the PC a couple of years later, everything felt comfortable. Everything felt easy because I'd trained so hard and had the right coaching before. But the problem with wrestling is, man, and I see it, I do, I help out a lot of the tryouts now with these college athletes and my favorite part of the triad is when they uh when they see someone get hit for the first time we did some matches at summer slam with some of the independent talent and when they see someone get hit from the first time you see their whole expression change all the fun and joking that they had about what wrestling is like maybe it's a bit silly changes when they see it because uh you know we bring it it sucks like it's not fun um but that's part of the enjoyment i love getting hit i love hitting other people well yeah speaking of hitting you are golden gloves box.

47:04Take us through your boxing journey, man. When did you, when did you start the, the, the sweet science as they say? When I was, you know, I was a huge wrestling fan, but then when I got to like 17, 18, I really got into the UFC. I was obsessed with UFC. So I started training a bunch in like different martial arts. I did MMA for a while too. I trained with Rob Whittaker, former middleweight champion, the UFC. And I always loved it. I loved the competitive aspect, but there was just something missing. I don't know what it was. And so I never really kind of chased it the way I probably could have or wanted to.

47:38And it wasn't until I found wrestling that I was like, no, this is what I wanted. I think there was the entertainment and the fun aspect that I was like missing. Like I'm a showman. I love to compete. I'm like unhealthily competitive, but there's something about the showman aspect of what we do that really clicks with me.

47:52O'Shea:And it shows. Take us through that. I mean, you know, like you said, when you first started your journey, there wasn't a lot of doors broken down yet. What was it like getting that call that you would be a WWE superstar? And on top of that, you ever get in contact or your comments filled with anybody from your class and social media seeing that their teacher made it to the WWE? well i'm not very lucky i never had to do a tryout which is a very rare thing uh canyon seaman who was the kind of scout at the time came to a show that i had in sydney we had a big tournament show you know i wrestled orange cassidy on the show i ended up winning the whole tournament which is a always a great look but i went into that show knowing if i i can take a job if this guy sees me that job's mine like i'm not stressed about anyone else and that's kind of the energy i had at the time like i knew if i if if someone could see me i could take a job and luckily he saw me i got to chat to him properly and all of a sudden you know in a weekend all of a sudden i'm going to wwe which is all very crazy um and i was still teaching at the time too even now again i actually got a dm for one of my ex-students the other day he said uh he said hey sir can you please stop wearing jeans that are so tight they look like they hurt so i'm glad the kids have a bit of a good humor with them kids still messing with you oh ruthless yeah dude it doesn't matter man like no respect for these kids but you know i think it's cool i got to go back to my high school that i taught at and actually uh went to school at last year i got to talk to the kids and kind of you know i think i'm a great example of like if you doesn't matter what your dream is or what you want like if you chase it and you work hard like these things can happen so i'm hoping some of these kids where it's you know they want to be an actor or a streamer or whatever it is like they can make it happen but they just got to put the grind in man grayson if only you were more confident man you you'd probably get for that's the thing yeah i'm i'm working on it i'm working on it you know what i mean and it shows man like i said just you can tell some people say they just you know when you have confidence in yourself that i think that holds a lot of people back right a lot of people just don't believe that their dreams can be attained or they can do things and you know when you have that confidence in yourself and i i truly feel like it makes all the difference in the world yeah the best advice i've ever got was from nigel mcginnis a couple years ago when he was commentating with us where he said i asked him some advice on a match and he said i don't i don't believe you think you're the best i believe that you think you need to train harder and need to learn more and he goes when muhammad ali was fighting he didn't think that way when muhammad ali was fighting the whole time he was in there he was the best in the world he carried him that way and that's why he was so good and i think that was fantastic advice because you You know, as wrestlers, there's always vets around and people better than us and people have done it longer and you want to learn and all these things.

50:41But, like, when you're in the ring, that's all going to disappear. And I think that that energy of I'm better than everyone is very dangerous in a good way. No doubt. Shay, what you got to say? Absolutely.

50:54O'Shea:Now, we love when we have guests on the show who grew up wrestling fans. You know, we've had a few that founded later in life. but when you talk to you know superstars who grew up as fans you're able to answer this question let me know as a fan when did wrestling break your heart oh damn when did wrestling but you know you know this is such a gross mark response but i handed in my fan card so i can talk about my former life yeah i remember when i was 18 i was a huge ring of honor guy i loved ring of honor like as i said nigel's a huge guy but i remember brian danielson came to sydney and i bought front row tickets like i was like this is going to be sick it was brian danielson versus nigel mcginnis like the classic ring of honor feud is going to come to sydney and he came out to um final countdown I'm 18 in the front row.

51:52This is the best day of my life. And then he shut down the song right when it got to the big part where he gets up on everyone's chance, final countdown. And Brian Danielson cut it off. I was so angry. I was chucking streamers at his head. Like not even, you know, you're supposed to rip them open, make it look nice. I was just pegging them at his head. I had good accuracy too, so I was getting him. That was the first time where I was like, I look back now, and I'm like, damn, that was good from him. He's very good at what he does. So maybe I learned something that night.

52:19O'Shea:Hell yeah. Helping him with streamers is crazy. It's crazy, man. And we always like to do this too, Grayson, for people that watch us. If you guys don't know about the two names, you should know one for sure. But if you don't know the other name he mentioned, go on YouTube. Look up some of these matches, which are honestly some of the greatest wrestling matches of all time between McGinnis and Danielson. Bro, that one where Nigel headbutts the ring post is just like the most insane. That was one of the moments where you watch wrestling. And even if you've watched all the wrestling, you watch that and you're like, man, I don't understand how someone like does this.

52:55Like that just changed my perspective on wrestling. Like that was crazy. Yeah, that's dope. Hitting Brian Danielson with streamers. Yeah, he deserved it too. I'll do it again too. I ain't stressed. I'll hit him with more streamers this time. Here's the deal. I believe you. Like there's no part of me that believes you won't do it again. So, you know, given the opportunity. you uh you did something that millions and i think that's safe to say over the last 25 or so years you did something that millions of people have tried to do but a very few have been successful and that's try out and make it on survivor tell us a little bit about that how that start what made you go man let me let me do this and then getting the call that you actually made the show I'm very good at what I do.

53:43So I looked at my wrestling career and I looked at Australian wrestling and I was like, how do I break out? Because the independent audience in Australia is very small. And it doesn't matter how good you are, there's still this audience and you can't break out. So I was like, I need to do reality TV. I know reality TV is a great way to get your name out there. So I didn't want to do the dating shows or anything like that because at the time I was a high school teacher. That's not great to be on a dating show. It would have been too easy for you. It would have, you know, I would have won every single one.

54:13But I was always a fan of Survivor. I loved it. And I was like, there's something about wrestlers in reality because I think we're so good at just being ourselves and being over the top and making great television that like, same as before, I knew if I get on this show, like if I get an interview, I'm on the show. And so I got the casting agent. I went to the interview and it's like a big group interview with like 10 people. and you kind of play survivor like a mini version to see what you'd be like and everyone was so nice and polite and they were all like this is my dream since i watched it with my grandmother growing up i'd love and it got to me and i went down the line and i was roasting all these people that were there i was talking about their clothes or some guy in a zebra t-shirt because he had no personality there was this old mom who was just clutching onto life and she may as well just give I just like went as hard as possible as those people.

55:04And that's what got me on the show, you know, because I don't mind being a prick. Like I'm real. You know what I mean? I'm not going to fake being the nice guy. And it worked out well. And I got to spend 30 days in the Fijian jungle. I lost 40 pounds. But it was one of the best experiences of my life. It was really fun. That's cool, man.

55:22O'Shea:Now, you're great at the villainy, bro. You're really good at what you do. But there's a moment where I was like, wow. just as a wrestling fan, I need to know, what's it like to leave Triple H hanging in the middle of the ring? I think we should set this up a little for people who might not know. WrestleMania, you win the tag team championships with Austin Theory. You guys... Who is that? I'm not sure. I don't remember who it was with. You had a partner, I'm pretty sure. I can't remember. I don't think he's around anymore, so that's okay. He's not here right now, so that's not what we're even talking about but what we are talking about is you guys got awarded brand new tag team belts titles whatever you want to call them and there's a ceremony in the ring as O'Shea said and Triple H was presenting you and uh maybe the other guy or whoever was with you with these belts and then Shay that's where your question comes in yeah man you left Triple H's hand hanging And then he even went in for the pump fake and got him again.

56:31O'Shea:You need to know what that moment is like. And then what's your favorite disrespectful encounter you've had with a legend thus far? It's an interesting thing because obviously Triple H is the boss. So this is a very risky thing to do on the boss. You know, at the end of the day, he's signing the paychecks. He's making a lot of big decisions. But one thing that I enjoy about wrestling is people who don't mind being disrespectful. Because, man, I get so bored with everyone is running backstage to get the Triple H point photo. Like, they won a championship. They don't even care about the championship.

57:09Hunter, Hunter, please point at me. Point at me, Hunter, please. Like, it's kind of sad. Like, I don't know. I find it kind of cringe. I like this guy, man. I earned the tag team championships. You know, I put in a lot of work for that moment. I climbed the ladder. I got that championship down. You know, I felt like I deserved to have the floor that day. But as always, you know, Adam Pearce, Nick Aldis, Triple H, they love to get themselves on camera. They like to make it about themselves. They want to make sure they're front and center. So I felt, you know, I'm going to take this moment back.

57:41And it was a risk. And, you know, I'm lucky I didn't get pedigreed. And who knows, one day I might take a pedigree because he probably hasn't forgotten about it. So I think it's fun getting to mess with the legend sometimes because they all expect for us to bow down and kiss their feet and that type of thing, and that's not something I'm going to do. I've always said the best way to show respect to the legends is to get in there with them and compete and show them, and that's what I've found works best for me. Shawn Michaels is a guy, like I said, some extremely disrespectful things to Shawn, and that's probably the most fun I've had on television was very few people in our generation get to say they got to stand in a ring with Shawn Michaels, and I did, and I didn't hold back.

58:22Same against John Cena. You know, I'm not the guy that's going to go out there and kiss their ass. I'm going to go out and go as hard as possible. And I think that's the most respectful way that you can treat them. Gross, Lala. My goodness. This guy is quickly becoming a guy. I think it's like anything else. It's like the NFL, you know. You go in and you're playing against your hero. You're playing against Tom Brady. Like, what, are you just going to let him roll over the top of you? Like, that's why he's a legend because people treat him with too much respect. I think Tom Brady is the kind of guy who wants you to play as hard as possible and you have a competition.

58:53And I think a lot of the vets that we have at WWE right now are like that. They don't want you to just bow down to them. They want you to go up against them. They want to see who wants the torch. The torch isn't being handed down at the moment. The torch is standing there waiting to be taken. I like that. Absolutely. When we speak legends, it means when you speak of legends, you think of times in the past. Times in the past make me think of history. I know you're a big history buff. What is it about history that you love, man? What is your favorite part of history? Is there a specific time that you like to read about and learn about?

59:27I'm always a guy. I like stories. And I think history is just like very interesting to look back on, you know. And especially even now with wrestling, like wrestling is my life. I just spent four days on the road. We're all over the place waking up early. So sometimes it's nice to take your mind off. And history is kind of a thing, you know, especially like all the war. Greek history was always my favorite. I love learning about the Spartans and all these things. And I think you can learn a lot about life from looking back at history. You know, I think people are too focused on going on Tik TOK and listening to some 20 year old bloke with a terrible haircut, giving them advice.

59:58You know, I'm the kind of guy I'm going to go back. I'm going to learn from the greats of history. And I think that gives me an advantage over a lot of people.

1:00:06Oh, yeah, that was deep, right? I know. You didn't expect that from Grayson Waller. No, actually, I got to be honest. I did expect that. Look, this is a teacher, man. I am expecting like deep introspective. Once a teacher, always a teacher. Always a teacher. Teaching these fools in the ring every day. Yeah, dude, it comes out sometimes, you know. It's been a long time since I talked. But even like when I got to go to the triads and stuff, like I love getting back in there and getting to work with new talent. We did a run of house shows on the weekend for NXT up in South Carolina and Georgia. and it's like the teacher in me is still there.

1:00:37I love when people come up and they ask questions. They want to know what's going on. And I think that's where you kind of work out who wants it, who really wants it and who's the next generation because I love working at NXT and I like to know who's coming next because I've got to make sure I have a strategy to make sure they're not next and they wait down there for the next few years and they let me have my shine first.

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1:01:42O'Shea:1-800-CONTACTS. Now, I know you're a proud countryman. You know, I've seen you speak about how you're not a fan of when Australians get back home and then they, you know, they try to talk down to just play the heel role. You love your country. And, you know, you guys have, if I'm not mistaken, TJ, that's the 15th that they're going to go to Melbourne? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, the Super Show, right? Yeah. Super Show Australia, October 15th. Yep. Talk to us a little bit about, first of all, shout out to Melbourne. I love Melbourne. But talk to us about that moment you had with Rhea. I believe it was in Perth when you got to do the Shoei.

1:02:26O'Shea:Tell me a little bit about that moment. You said it was one of the proudest moments of your career. Yeah. First of all, it was strange getting cheered. Like, that's not something that happens very often, so I've got to enjoy it when it does happen. But, like, I think the shoeie is such, like, a ridiculous thing that it kind of perfectly encapsulates Australian culture. And I remember being up there, the producer came on stage and, like, whispered to me, like, hey, are you okay if Rhea does the shoeie with you? And I was popping huge because, like, I had no idea that Rhea was even going to do it.

1:02:54And I was like, of course. I think that was a great way for the Australians who were at that show to kind of have a moment together. Sometimes that doesn't happen. There's only a few of us. Right now on the main roster, it's myself, Rhea, and Bronson. So that whole weekend was very cool, and it was very exciting. Next month, we've got three shows in Perth and then another one in Melbourne. So that's a lot of wrestling in Australia, and I'm excited to go back and hopefully get in the ring this time. You know, last time I had to put over Cody and Seth and help them out and, you know, give them the grace and all the rub before they headed on to mania and doing big things.

1:03:29And so this time I'm ready to fight in Australia. Let's be honest, without that rub shade, those two probably wouldn't be where they are right now. So you think Cody could have finished the story without me? Cody only finished the story because I put him in the position to finish the story. You know, I'm a teacher. He's American educated. You know, it's hard to read.

1:03:50O'Shea:now like i said before i like melbourne i've been i've been around australia quite a bit uh i've got a couple of my favorite places let the viewers who might be lucky one day to go to australia know some hot spots what's some cool stuff to do in your country and why is it one of the best in the world yeah so melbourne's like i always say melbourne's like very hip stuff melbourne's like the cool place in sydney if you like coffee shops and uh you know speakeasy bars and all that type of stuff live sport melbourne's the place to go if you love the beach and you want to like go outdoors and stuff sydney's the best place i think sydney's the best place in the world you know i've gone to a lot of a lot of beaches in in florida and across america and these aren't beaches man it's just all wet sand and like old people like it's not my kind vibe for a beach.

1:04:40I like going to a nice beach. Sydney is the place for that. Even in Perth, we got very lucky when we go there. The tourism board in Perth takes us all over the place. When we went last time, me and Ria went surfing. We went dune bugging. We were all over the place. Australia is a gorgeous place. I think more people need to go. The problem is it's just so far away. That's my frustration. I wish I could go home more, but it's so far away that I get stuck here. I did that and I mispronounced and I did get to go to Bondi Beach in Sydney. And I tell you, I walked around in awe because it was a beautiful sight, some beautiful scenery.

1:05:20Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, we're both reading the same language here. You know, Bondi is a very pleasant place to be. If I can be on the same page as Grayson Waller, I think I'm doing something all right. Doing great.

1:05:31O'Shea:You're doing great, brother. Doing great. You know, like I said, I got to spend some time in Sydney, had had a beef pie i'd look that was awesome that was good food i and grayson i also almost got thrown out of a club for having a 10 of altoids because the bouncers thought that they were drugs and yeah so i had to the one guy grabbed me by my shirt and start walking me out and i'm like bro like you know and he takes me to another bouncer and he was like bro these are breath mints and then we all had a big laugh the guy's like hey you treated me like a gentleman I treat you like a gentleman. You come in.

1:06:07If you have any problems, you ask for me. My name is Will, like Will Smith. And we all had to laugh. And I went back and had fun. But the thing is, Australian bars are different to American bars. American bars, there's no rules. You can walk in with hat on, shorts. You can be just like passed out drunk, and they don't even care. Australia is very strict. You know, you trip at any stage. You're out of the bar. Like, as fun loving and crazy as we seem, like, Australian bars, you can't really get away with much. So I'm not surprised they try to get rid of you real quick. Like they're, they're looking for reasons to get rid of people.

1:06:39America is a different breed. There's just like no rules at the bars here. Yeah. Like I said, I'm lucky the other bouncer knew what they were and they let me back in and a good time was had that night. Good for you. Because of the breath mints, because of the breath mints. Because of the breath mints. You have so many. Because I've heard stories though, bro. Like some of the girls have talked to you, like the breath is a, is a no-go. I appreciate you've been taking them out. That's helpful. One thing they will always tell you, Grayson is I smell good and the breath stays Fresh there's the only thing I can really say Like come on I haven't heard that I keep the Cologne on me at all times you know what I mean Ah okay I get it you're a sweaty dude You know you gotta make sure you're fresh I got it right here you never know You might hit the squash squat you know what I mean

1:07:21O'Shea:Dang you really did have it You a beast That's my dog right there Alright now just in case Tom Ford right now boys come on let's go I get pulled just in case I get pulled I want to get our number one question out of the way, Grayson, because I'm very interested in what you have to say about it. I need background actor number seven. Background actor number seven to set. No, please. They never care about number seven. Trust me. So it's a situational-based question. You're in a bar, 50 dudes in that bar, and they don't want you in there. A bunch of uneducated people in these bars, Grayson. That's right.

1:08:00O'Shea:I need you to pick a team of you and four other superstars to make sure that Grayson Waller stays in effect. Well, number one, hands down, Fit Finley. Fit Finley's in the squad. You know, that's not a go-share. I've seen Fit recently, and he still is the toughest guy that I've ever seen in my life. But I'm actually going to switch the question up on you because I actually have a real story where I had almost a bar fight and I had three people step up. So I'm going to put them into my team. Let's go. Okay. Okay. This is WrestleMania 40. After we win the, I won the tag team championships. We go back to the hotel bar.

1:08:39And sometimes when WrestleMania stuff happens, the fans know what hotel we're at. Always. So we're trying to have a good time and chill. And all these fat flops in black shirts and who stink are just like roaming around trying to grab you and all that. It's the worst. It's so frustrating. All Eagles fans too, Grayson. That was. Hey, careful what you're saying. I'm trying to give you a cool story here. You wait your turn. You wait your turn here. Um, and so there was a guy who kept like, just trying to grab and touch and talk to some of the NXT girls and telling me, oh, this guy's bothering us.

1:09:10So I went up to the bar to talk to him. I was like, Hey, can you leave the girls alone? They're trying to have a good night. And this guy was very drunk. He starts firing back at me. He goes to push me. And I'm like, man, I just won the tag team championships. I'm going to get in a fight at the bar at WrestleMania. This is going to be the story, but I have to, like, if he's going to, all of a sudden, first person that walks up next to me, Shayna Baszler. She's like, is everything all good here? Okay? Then as she's talking to me, MVP walks up next. Now I'm feeling pretty good, you know? Then Josh Barnett, who I must admit, I've never met Josh Barnett.

1:09:48Like, I know of him. I know he's a badass. He steps up next and goes, is everything alright here, guys? I sat down. I sat down at the bar and I just looked at the guy like, hey, I'm good. Like, Shayna Baszler MVP, Josh Barnett had my back. There isn't a man alive who I think can mess with this team of four. So I almost had like my own super team at the bar at WrestleMania, and that guy, he disappeared real quickly, which was nice. So I think I actually had a real-life team of four War Games bar team. I love that story.

1:10:19O'Shea:Dude, TJ, if I'm not mistaken, that is what, the third or fourth time shana baseman at least at least the fourth time yeah punk punk mentioned there's a very first show we did our very first episode was with punk and the very first question the very first person to answer that question and he put shana on this team and it makes sense you know what it is i think it's the wrestling thing where it's like i i've never met josh barnett i i know mvp a little bit you know me and shana are cool but like it didn't matter in that situation they saw a wrestler who was getting involved in a situation they're handling with you like i love that about the brother and the sisterhood that wrestlers have together like even if you don't know the person if someone's going to stand up they're going to so that was a that's a that's a cool moment from wrestlemania weekend that i'm gonna remember that's pretty dope and i'm sure that guy woke up the next morning like what did i just do what did i almost you know you almost got your ass got torn to pieces is what to be fair if a wrestling fan though that's the best story you tell everyone that story hey i was grabbing on the nxt girls and then josh barnett tried to fight me right right right i don't know if you want those problems though man that's the that's the thing so uh wait tj tj you you did you opened up this can of worms so now i gotta ask all right now brother i know you're from i know you're from australia man but i need to know because you're uh it's about to get really ugly right now you You see, my brother TJ over here is a fan of the Dallas Cowboys.

1:11:50O'Shea:And me, myself, I'm a fan of the 17-time world champion, Los Angeles Lakers. So I need to know, when did you and how did you and why did you become a Philadelphia Eagle and a Sacramento King? Are you really a Sacramento Kings fan? So I will say Wikipedia has lied to you about the Kings. Oh, thank God. Yeah. I collect basketball jerseys. I collect basketball jerseys, so I like getting some old school ones. So, you know, a J. Will Sacramento Kings jersey. White chocolate. That's pretty fresh. That's a fresh jersey. I actually gave one to Jacob Fatu too because those boys rep Sacramento. So with the NBA, I'm pretty chill.

1:12:30But Philly, like I've been accused of being like a bandwagoner because Philly's good all of a sudden. But, like, I'm not Cody Rhodes, you know. I don't just swap teams. When I heard that story about Cody, man. what was the story Cody said that he changed up teams after he went to did some Wrestlemania media stuff and then he's like okay I'm an Eagles fan now they took care of his daughter and stuff because the Eagles are such a fantastic organization but when I was a teenager I started playing Madden and I was repping Donovan McNabb and Donovan McNabb was sick and basically I just kept the team from there because it's way more fun having a team and you know it's just so fun every year to put belts to ass to the Dallas Cowboys you know that's always fun It's just like twice a year you get guaranteed wins.

1:13:14First of all, that's not even true, Grayson Waller. That's not true. Okay, here we go. When was your last Super Bowl win? That's all I need. If you give me the last Super Bowl win, I'm happy. I mean, we still got three more than you guys do, and you're illustrious. So it's been a long time, but what's taking you guys so long to catch up? When did we get this picture? I didn't ask for this picture. Who put this up?

1:13:35O'Shea:Get that picture on the screen. TJ, I'm so sorry. we went to uh uh Cosm I don't know if you guys heard of Cosm in Dallas it's that awesome thing where you go and it feels like we went there for the rumble and they gave me a mic in Dallas and I'm just like I don't think you know what you've done here and it's just like that's that's my favorite stuff when I get to go to somewhere like Dallas like we had our best player one of our best players Jalen Carter left the field because Dak Prescott's a bit of a wuss oh okay so you can just go spit on people now you're better than that grace where were you spitting very close very close but i forgot that doesn't have very good accuracy so we missed him it's kind of like he's like he would have hit him if he was a better player you are being very disrespectful to the am i wrong though yes you're very wrong by the way jaylen carter got fined a game check for that you know what i mean so i hopefully he's only going to be worth$25 million now.

1:14:31The poor brother must be struggling. Times are hard, Grayson Waller. You know that. You know how taxes and things like that over here, government always trying to take theirs. I'd give him a game paycheck to spit on Dak Prescott. I'd be fine with that. Man, this is one thing you and I are just not going to agree on, Grayson Waller. We've been here so far, but yeah, this one I can't. Not the Eagles. That was amazing. We'll see you later in the season. We'll see how it goes. We're going to take that L back or give you the L this time, I guess I should say. Hopefully. God, if you're listening. Oh, no, we're going to go 14-3.

1:15:04What a terrible thing. Man, you and Nikki Bella should talk about this because she's another Eagles fan who likes to talk trash. Yeah, you know what I love? So, we went to Philly recently and obviously Nikki's a big Eagles fan. Nikki Bella's awesome. And Cooper DeGene's in the front row. So, I'm popping. And Big Dom. I'm like, I'm going to go Say hello to him. I said, what's up? Now, I'm wearing like a very questionable ripped jean version of black overalls. So, you know, if you don't know wrestling, I'm looking pretty wild out there. So I don't think Cooper had any idea what was going on. Me and Kofi tried to mess around with him.

1:15:41I have a feeling maybe Nikki Bella, you know, had mentioned the show was on and Cooper Dejean all of a sudden was like, I'm definitely going. I wonder why, Cooper. I wonder why you wanted to go to the show. It makes sense. I don't think he was there. I don't think he was there to see us perform. I think he was there to see, you know, the Beller in action. And that's fair enough. Fair play, Cooper DeGene. You're a good man. But, hey, look at it this way, Grayson. You come to see Nikki Bella, you leave with an appreciation for the Grayson Waller effect. So, hey, however it gets done, right? Exactly.

1:16:09I don't know if he appreciated it too much, you know, but that's okay. Because he took an intercept in the Super Bowl and he's forgiven for life for that. Look, you've been disrespecting my favorite team and I still have an appreciation. I don't know again why are we showing these pictures nobody calls for these it's a really cool picture and I can't wait I think we're going back to Kansas City again soon and I very much enjoyed going to Kansas City recently and getting a hold up the Super Bowl championship that I had in front of that city like I hate Kansas City I can't stand them that game's coming up next week so get ready and in Arrowhead too so maybe I should enjoy everything that I've said now, just in case.

1:16:53Kansas City's looking good this year, too, so who knows? But I think we're going to whip him again now.

1:16:58O'Shea:Oh, by the way, TJ, just so you know, I did win my first fantasy football week, thanks to Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts. I just want to let you know, man. Appreciate you. Hey, you want to hear about a conundrum, Grayson Waller? You know how I feel about the Eagles, obviously. Starting quarterback on my fantasy team is Jalen Hurts. So I had to, while he's scoring on the Cowboys, I had to sit there and try to process this. Like this is bad for real. Okay. And fantasy again, I'm not asking for. Bro. Jalen is the man. Like I love how much sports media talks about him and won't give him his flowers.

1:17:35And I don't think he could care less. He just keeps turning up. He has every press conference. He has some, like some phrase or statement that is like one of the coolest things I've ever heard where it's like a life lesson. I think Jalen Hurts is the man. I think he's going to bring a few more Super Bowls to Philly. Like I said, I'm not a fan of the team, but I am a fan of that man. He does things the right way. And like you said, people are refusing to give this man his props. And I don't know what more he needs to do to get it. And like I said, that's hard for me to say being as, you know, I'm a Cowboys fan.

1:18:06I appreciate your honesty. Thank you for your honesty. I like that. Yeah, I mean, I respect the player. You know what I mean? I definitely do.

1:18:13O'Shea:Now, one more thing from me, because I got to get up out of here. Number one on the call sheet, Grayson, not number seven. Yeah, come on, dog. Number one. Hey, just put out catering, brother. He's just hungry. I understand. Nah, bro, I'll get you tickets to the premier, man. Don't you worry. But so in the beginning, you know. What's wrong with this guy, man? He's off his rocker, man. He's on one. I love it. You talked about how far, you know, Australia is and how you'd wish you could go home a bunch of times. earlier for those who don't know tj a tim tam i put a tim tam up against a twix probably any day and i love twix i love vegemite is disgusting if you had to put together a care package of stuff from australia for yourself right now to be dropped off at your house what do you need see i'm i'm i'm against you with the vegemite thing man uh a former tag team partner of mine I don't even know what happened to him He's kind of gone, but that's okay Got me a tub of Vegemite That I finally just got out of So I need more, I'm telling you If you don't like Vegemite, you haven't done it properly You just get a lot of bread with some smashed avocado on top Like that hits Actually, Burt Kreischer We got to do his show recently I don't want to interrupt you Burt Kreischer, I work on the Rich Eisen show We're a national sports TV show On ESPN And Burt Kreischer was just left the studio maybe an hour ago.

1:19:38He was in here.

1:19:39O'Shea:Burt was there today. I forgot to, I meant to call you, but yeah, he was, he came in today. Yep. It was great. I'll, I'll send you, I'll send you the interview. Both of you. Burt is the man. Burt chokeslammed me, which was very disrespectful to do in my ring. Yeah. But when we went and did his show, he cooked for us and he did Vegemite. We smashed avocado on top. I was very impressed. So now I've been like very into that. As you said, Tim Tams are the, the go-to because the chocolate in America is terrible. What? Hershey's and all this stuff. I'm telling you, when you get some dairy milk in you, some actually proper milk chocolate, like, it'll change your life.

1:20:09I don't know what it is in all the American food. It's just not the same. So I get all the chocolates that are available, like, they're going to be there. And for a country with so many, you know, heavyweights, it's crazy that chocolate is so poor here.

1:20:26Yeah, I have had a Tim Tam when I went down there. I got to admit, I do a couple of beers. Tim Tam Slam? Tim Tam Slam? Have you tried that? No. What's that? No. The Tim Tam Slam is you take a bite off the top and the bottom, and then if you have like a cup of coffee or a hot chocolate or something, and then you drink it through the Tim Tam. Oh, like a straw. Because the wafer is thin enough, and you drink the coffee through the Tim Tam. Bang. You're welcome. That's the grace of water effect. That's the grace of water effect. You're welcome. Thank you, sir. Now I know. Now, if we have any friends, any fans in Australia, ship us some Tim Tams, man.

1:21:00I'm going to try them. Come on, Doc. All seven fans in Australia. Come on, guys. Let's send some Tim Tams. We're ready to go. Well, we had seven until today, and now that you've been on, we might have four. But listen, the thing is, let me ask you a question, Grazer Waller. Australian wrestlers, give me a Mount Rushmore of Australian wrestlers. Yeah. Damn. You put it on. So number one, I think, has to be Rhea, just because she's completely changed what the industry is in Australia. And she's not just – you know, she's got Drake talking about her, saying that she's his muse and all this stuff like that's that's next level world expansion stuff so i think ria no matter what and that's just her outside the ring then you talk about what she does in the ring like i think ria is one of the best wrestlers that i've ever seen somehow is still the most like grounded and relaxed individual i've ever met in my life despite all the popularity so she's got to be on there uh there's another lady madison eagles who uh was ranked number one in the world i still think she's the best female wrestler of all time um if you haven't seen madison eagles before she was kind of ria before ria she was super tall she was jacked she would come to america and she's basically any of the australian women that have come since have kind of come because of her so madison's got to be on there she related to rob eagles so they're wrestling related if that makes sense um but robbie is my coach i got to put him on there too and robbie's still killing it in new japan he's super talented i got to get in with a few times with him and he's just so good at what he does and i just wish more of the world could see Robbie.

1:22:32And then I think I have to be on there. I think I am a different variation of what the Australian wrestlers do. I brought the entertainment aspect. I think I brought the true larrikin Australian nature to wrestling. You know, wrestlers from Australia have always been badasses. Look at Bronson Reed. He's a badass. Look at what he's doing to Roman Reigns like he's nothing. Took his shoes. I'm a different variation of that. He took his shoes as he should. In Australia, we don't wear shoes. We don't need them. But I think I'm going to put myself there because I'm going to go out and I'm going to talk like an Australian.

1:22:59I'm going to walk like an Australian. I'm going to carry myself with that confidence. And I think I kind of embody the Australian spirit and the banter that we have a little bit. And I'm too talented not to put on that man rush more. Love it. I love it. Grayson Waller, since you, you are, uh, I'd say you, we can say, you know,

1:23:15O'Shea:I gotta go. Oh, my bad. Grayson, bro. I appreciate you, man. Um, you're always welcomed on the show. You're a beast. Like we said, like we said, you, you entertain us out the ring all the time, especially on Twitter. As a guy who loves to cuss people out on Twitter, bro, I salute you, man. You the man, bro. So thank you for your time, and I'll see y 'all later, man. All right, man. Thanks, buddy. Like O'Shea said, we consider you a no contest family now, man. So we're going to let you know where we keep the key when you come into that Los Angeles. Just come take the guest room. But we also have something at the no contest house in the garage.

1:23:52We got a time machine. I don't know if you knew this. Okay. So what I want to do is I'm going to loan you this time machine, bro. And I want you to travel back in time. And I want you to pick five superstars from any era that you want to bring to present day and have a WrestleMania main event with. Okay. Damn. That could be, like I said, from any, any era, bro. Any era. I think if, if number one of your list isn't Shawn Michaels, you don't really know what you're talking about. And for me, that's more of a personal thing, you know, getting to work with Shawn so much in NXT and get to be across from him a few times.

1:24:29I would love to test myself against Sean because I think Sean's the best wrestler of all time. So he's on there. I think Eddie Guerrero's got to be on there, getting to kind of hang out with Dom a fair bit and be close to Dom and his stories about Eddie. And just watching his stuff, Eddie's incredible. So I think that would be a lot of fun. Who else are we going to go back? Man, there's so many. The thing is at the moment, you look at the Raw and SmackDown roster, we have some of these legends that we want to get in. with so like some of them like i want to fight cm punk i want to fight cm punk so bad i want to have the microphone next to cm punk you don't even need the time traveling he's just sitting there waiting he's just spending too much time with seth rollins you know we've got to try and drag him out of that and they two got to stop fighting i want to see what punk's really about that would be that's one of my dreams just because he's on the mic man there's no one better and i have someone who prides himself on their microphone ability i want to test myself against cm punk because I know he's not going to hold back at all.

1:25:26He's going to say whatever he thinks, and that's something that doesn't really exist anymore. That's going to be a nice four weeks of promo battles build up to that match. I'd love that. Oh, dude, it's Sydney. I've got a lot to say about CM Punk, but we'll save that for the day that it needs to be said. You know what I mean? I've been saving that for a long time. I'm going to put Fit on there too, man. Fit Finley is like, if you're a real wrestling fan, you know how good Fit is. I think Fit Finley is, every really good wrestler, their favorite wrestler is Fit Finley. And even if you see him at the PC still, you know, he's a little bit older now, but he's still so sharp.

1:25:58And so everything he does is so effortless and it's terrifying. Like, have you ever seen him get in the ring with anyone? Like, when he's moving them around, like, fit's crazy, fit's scary, even at his age now. So, like, I'd love to get in there and have, you know, 30-year-old fit beat me up because there's no way I'd be able to beat him. I'm just being honest with myself. And then there's a five. I feel I need to go a little bit off track here, you know what I mean? who's the fifth one from the past? Little legend. You can help me out here. I want someone to go. You know who it is? Roddy Piper.

1:26:33I was, man. Same thing. Bro, I was literally thinking of someone on the mic, and he was one of the two people that, yes, you and Roddy Piper. Yeah, Roddy Piper, and that's the one. We can wrestle if you want, but I don't think people want to pay to see us wrestle. I think people want to pay to see us on the mic. I've learned a lot from watching Roddy's stuff. Piper's Pit is like the perfect example of what a wrestling talk show should be because I it was it was never about him it was always about his guests but he always shined throughout the whole time he was so good at doing what he did and he was had no shame he would say whatever he thought he was willing to take risks and and and be cruel he was really mean to people and I really appreciate someone who's willing to be really mean and cruel and and be honest with people because I think we need more of that in society just too many people sugarcoating stuff is that what you say oh man big time like everyone's so soft these days and And I mean that in the sense of like everyone wants to give each other praise and congratulations.

1:27:25And it's just like I like conflict. I think conflict is fun. Like when I watch wrestling, when I watch fighting, when I watch sport, like I love conflict. Conflict is where the entertainment is. If everyone's best buddies and shaking hands and wrestling each other and putting a photo up together afterwards, like that's boring to me, man. I think that's fake. And I like real. And you keep it real. Yeah, I do. And I have no shame about that. And if people don't like it, that's okay. I'm not really doing it for people to like me. I'm doing this for myself. if I'm doing this to be for the money, take care of my family, my friends, the money's great too.

1:27:55You know, it's a beautiful thing. And I, I'd rather be, I always say, I'd rather be a real asshole than a fake nice guy. That's what's up. You know, I'd like to tell people, uh, the guests on the show, when they bring up Roddy Piper, as I told you, I work here on the rich eyes and show, as you can see the sign behind me here and Roddy Piper, he, when he passed away, he passed away on a Friday, the previous Friday, he was on this show doing an interview. And so I got to see him one week before he passed. And I remember I wasn't working on the show. I was working for direct TV. The show was on direct TV at the time.

1:28:33And I knew every time a wrestler came on, whether it be Roddy or Jericho or someone, I'd come to the studio. And I'll never forget that day. I had a macho man t-shirt in and Roddy walked by and he reached down. He grabbed my knee and he's like, how are you doing kid? And I'm like, awesome. I had already taken a picture with him like two years prior to that. So I didn't want to bother him again for a picture. But it's just the fact that I wanted to come see Roddy, you know, and he came down and he grabbed me and he asked me how I was doing. Like, you know, look in the eyes, like really mean it.

1:29:00You know, I was like, man, that's hot Rod. And bro, the next Friday he passed away. Well, that's cool. You got the experience first, man. That's the kind of guy I think he left. He left every room that he was in a better place. And that's, as a performer, you know, that's kind of what you want to do. And he told some great stories about him being banned from Japan. He was over in New Japan and they took his passport and he stole a cab. So it's just, he had a great story and him hanging out with Andre, telling some Andre stories. It was, it was really dope. And like I said, it was, I'm pretty sure his last television appearance.

1:29:34So it made it special. What a brother always went down telling a good story. I love hearing that. No doubt. Well, Grayson Weller, one last thing, since you brought this up, you brought up Piper's pit. was there any did you think of that when you were doing your own talk show like the was were you trying to channel Roddy when you go out there and do that because you guys have a similar vibe to where you know you're you're gonna put your guests you're gonna hold their feet to the flames I guess is what you said definitely a little bit I loved how wild Roddy was you know he he like instigated without you know a lot of times he he'd just be throwing in these little jabs and they it wasn't so over the top it was just just real stuff and i love that about it but obviously when you have a talk show in wrestling i also didn't want it to be like everything else because sometimes they get a little bit monotonous it's very similar so my whole thing too is originally i wanted it to be kind of like a steven a smith first take kind of vibe that's why i wanted like the round desk and kind of have that where it's like because that's what sport talk is now you just have guys saying wild stuff and trying to rile each other up and rile up the internet and i love that i was I just want to give me the microphone and I will say things that will roll people up.

1:30:42You know, I have Apollo Crews on first host. Second question I'll ask him, I'll ask him about his fake, fake accent that he was putting on for a couple of months. You know, I want to bring up the stuff that you think we can't talk about. You know, you think, Oh, there's no way they'd ever talk about it. Well, give me the microphone. I'll say I wouldn't care less. So my idea was trying to get a little bit of Stephen, a little bit of Roddy Piper mix them together. And I think that's, that's the cause of some controversy, but also a lot of entertainment. And as someone who works on one of those daily sports shows, I truly appreciate what you just said there.

1:31:12And I think of Apollo's accent. Now all I can hear is him going, Commander Aziz. And for some reason that just sticks in my head. And it's like, it's so silly. Like, why can't we not call that stuff out? You know, like I think in wrestling, sometimes we forget about the past, but I love bringing out the past. Like I'm a student of the game. So if you're going to come on my show, just know I know everything about you. I know everything you've done. And I know the good, the bad. And most likely I'm going to talk about the bad because it's more fun to do that. my man well look bro I gotta be honest this this was truly dope to kind of chop it up with you get to know you a little bit it was like O'Shea said you were both fans of your work love what you do just especially your mic work like a lot of people can get it done in the ring but you know being entertaining on the mic that's a whole nother thing and having the confidence in yourself every week to go out there and because you're not trying to placate to the people you're not out there sucking up you're out there you know pretty much crapping on people in the the fans i i can't stand what the fans have become and i mean this more about i think it's more online fans than anyone else but it's so fake you know they pick and choose who they like and then they switch over like look how they treat treated cody when he's going against cena look how they treat the new day the new day the greatest tag team of all time think of all the moments the new day have given the wrestling industry they gave so much and they come out and they boo the new day now The New Day just trying to get a chance at the tag team championships and every week they go out and get booed.

1:32:34I think that's so disrespectful for everything that they've done for so long. I agree. But that's what the wrestling fans do. They see one person say something on Twitter and they make it their whole personality. There's no creativity. They're all just unoriginal. I feel like wrestling fans are very unoriginal and I'm not going to beg them to cheer for me. I don't need you. I probably never will. I hope that I never have to be that guy who has to go out there and fake, come on, guys, get behind me like that. If you see me doing that, I've done something wrong. I'm glad you talked about New Day because that's the last thing I wanted to talk about.

1:33:08How has it been working with Woods and Kingston? And are they still in mourning? It seems like they're still in mourning over the tag team title. Well, are the Judgment Day defending the championships? No. They're playing WWE 2K in their little office. In the clubhouse, yeah. Raquel and Roxy are out there fighting every week, and these two tag team champions, you know, I thought JD was a workhorse. Maybe he's getting a little bit unfit. Maybe he's getting a little bit too used to being tag champ. But working with the New Day is an honor. Like when I say they're the greatest tag team of all time, I mean it.

1:33:41Like these are two guys who in every aspect, whether it's in the ring, out of the ring, media, YouTube, they can do it all. And they're very good at like turning something small into something huge. Like they're the most entertaining guys every single week. even during the breaks on Netflix so the Americans don't get to see it. International audiences get to see these guys go out and do these Netflix breaks, get the microphone, and they're hilarious, they're serious, they're fun, they're intelligent when it comes to wrestling, and I feel very lucky to be in there with them and be helping them out right now.

1:34:13I actually saw the Usos were kind of talking some trash on Twitter today about them, saying that the street profits were better than the old day. Wow. I thought that was very disrespectful. I thought that was very disrespectful to even compare the street profits and the New Day because I don't think there's any comparison between those two teams. I've been in there with the Street Profits. They're not on the New Day's level. And for the Usos who have teamed once in the past, what, three years to kind of act like they're on the level of tag team wrestlers, I don't think they're the same anymore.

1:34:43So as a hopeful soon-to-be member of the New Day, I look forward to seeing their New Day-Uso rivalry come back around, and I'd love to smack the yeet out of both those brothers. And that was my last thing. Is this official? Are you a member of the New Day? Are you just New Day adjacent right now? They said on Monday that we were going to talk about it today, but Woods just texted me and he's playing Final Fantasy, whatever that is. I don't know what it is. And then Kofi's playing Tekken. So we might have to have that talk later on. That's okay. You know, we got nothing but time. It's necessary, though.

1:35:18It's necessary. Yeah, but at the end of the day, I'm here to help out. We're trying to get, you know, right now we're dealing with this Penta guy. I think he's an absolute flop. He's what's wrong with wrestling. All these Lucha guys are starting to make me sick. They all wear these big outfits because they can't be bothered going to the gym and getting in shape. They get a puppet on their hands so you don't look at the fact they don't have any abs. It's just all these out-of-shape blokes wearing. They kind of look like furries. They're all wearing these weird masks and stuff, pretending to do flips off the rope.

1:35:45I think Lucha wrestling is terrible, and I hate that we're stuck in this thing with Penta, but he's a very dangerous man. and as the new day we're here to save wrestling we're here to save wrestling from the destroyer we're here to save wrestling from lucha um so for the next few weeks this is what we're focused on we're going to get rid of the destroyer and hopefully get rid of lucha wrestling as well because it's it's i'm sick of it wow okay well grayson waller and one last thing fans being disrespectful it was very disrespectful that fan the other week to throw their phone down and and try to make you trip over their phone like i was sitting there like i rewound that i was like throw that person out they tried to trip it made you it made you accidentally step on their iphone i don't know what that was all about no i did that 100 on purpose okay well my favorite thing is no legally i didn't want to i didn't want to make you say it but you know went through uh they put it on instagram and i was reading through the comments and all the comments like i've watched wwe unreal it is a plant it is not real fan work for wwe and i'm dying because i know that's a real fan.

1:36:50I went out there. That's not a plan, lad. That guy put his phone in harm's way. Woods took it and I stepped on it. We didn't organize that. That's not going to end up on WWE Unreal. That guy's going home with a great story and a broken phone. If you're at a WWE show, be careful because it might happen again. With that, Grayson Waller, I'm going to let you go about your day, brother. Thank you so much for joining us. Next time you're in LA, like I said, me Casa Su Casa. Come join us. Legend, brother. Go Birds! Wait a second, Grayson. Come on, bro. Great interview with Grayson Waller, man. That dude is off the chain.

1:37:28But you know what? I think the future is very bright for my man. He's going to have a huge career in WWE. Make sure you follow us on all our socials. You know how we do. On Twitter, X, there's no contest. On Instagram, no contest wrestling podcast. On YouTube, go to the Rich Eisen Show YouTube page. Put in no contest wrestling. you'll see all of our clips from all of our episodes and also on tiktok no contest wrestling pod you can follow us there until next week oh wait a second that's right from o'shea had a message that we shot yesterday and he he wants us to show you guys here it is tj before i go yes i love you man all right bro well i want you to demand a great night i love you man Keep killing it.

1:38:17O'Shea:Do your thing. I can't wait for you to get back. Stay black. Stay strong. My man. Bye, Ms. Parker. Bye, Ms. Parker. Bye,

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1:39:04O'Shea:An offer you can feast on. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pick up fees, man. Bye.