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1:15Rich Eisen:To try to speed up his process. And the plan is from here then to start to narrow that down. Earlier on the show, host of Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio. Coming up, four-time NBA champion, John Sally. Plus, your phone calls, latest news, and more. And now, it's Rich Eisen. That's right. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen show is on the air. Daniel Jeremiah is making his way to the Chargers facility, but not in time to appear on this show today. I said, what about the next time you're here? And he said, he's not coming back to the Chargers facility until tomorrow. So he will be on tomorrow's Rich Eisen show.

1:55Rich Eisen:Look how we roll here on the program. it's it's it's so well planned our booking sometimes uh or it's at the vagaries of uh the la uh or the southern california area traffic patterns right up uh at 844-204 which is the number to tell entire hour is free for us to to hang out here uh together uh mike del tufo suzy and i finished last night the uh billy joel documentary on hbo which is available right HBO Max, pardon me, available right here on Roku. I cannot stress enough how amazing it is. And for any fan of Billy Joel, which means most everybody who's breathing on planet Earth, you have to see it.

2:39Rich Eisen:Guy's so flawed, and some of the backstories of his music making and his personal life all being melded together. it's beautiful it's you know uh disconcerting sometimes and one of the greatest documentaries i've ever seen i can't stress enough you would love it yeah i have to i will 100 i'm gonna watch you gotta see i'm a zone i have to be in the zone and i have to watch the whole thing that's five hours oh no i'll watch the whole thing and i i will that's what i'll do i have to watch the whole thing it's five hours i can't wait you you i just gotta have the time to do it just gotta have five hours together in order to bang it out.

3:22Rich Eisen:So enjoy it. Enjoy it. And I can't wait to hear what you think about it. Speaking of, I swear I didn't plan this. Speaking of New York State of mine. It was, what was it? What was it, guys? Where I woke up, heard Justin Fields gets carted off. When was that? When was that? Was it just last week? Was it one week ago today? Tuesday? Could it have been? Was it one week ago today? I forget when it was. Thursday. It was late last week. All these days just mold together here, right? So, yeah. You've got the New York Jets watching their quarterback limp off into a cart, get carted off, and needing an MRI on a toe.

4:15Rich Eisen:and I'll be honest I thought it was the end of the season Aaron Glenn was kind of like hey everybody just take a breath and he said that after we found out it was much ado about something but not something so great that he's out for the rest of the preseason let alone week one and let alone the entire season And my response was, Aaron, you know, you haven't been around a while, you know. Been away a long time. You know, all of us Jets fans, we crawl into our shine boxes when quarterbacks get hurt. And all the hopes are in that quarterback's basket. And long story short, guess who spoke today about his toe?

5:07Rich Eisen:Oh. Justin Fields. Hit it. I mean, yeah, at first it just felt, we got our feet stepped on all the time at practice, so it just felt normal at first when I first got stepped on, but I tried walking off and it felt weird, like something was almost stuck in my toe. So I didn't really know what to think, I just knew something was wrong. So I just went up on the sidelines, got carded and got the MRI and x-ray, and luckily they said it was just dislocated it. So God was definitely looking out that day, but I'm glad to be back on the field of working. Are you wearing any special green to get protected though?

5:44Yeah, I just got like this little plastic cover

5:46Rich Eisen:my man's up came with it so almost like a little steel toe but it's a plastic toe but yeah we kind of came up with that idea and just to try to protect it for these next couple of weeks If only Aaron Rodgers could have used a plastic cover Plastic boot Just a plastic Here coach You know what I mean? Like he goes and gets sacked And then he doesn't get up. No. And then he hobbles off the field and he hobbles into the locker room and he's done for the year. And his entire two-year tenure with the Jets goes right down the tubes in four snaps. Yeah. I wish there was a plastic covering for that. I wish there was a plastic covering for the wounds.

6:32Rich Eisen:But there's a new Aaron in town and Fields is good and it looks like we will see him for week one. If it's all it is, just a little, let's put a little plastic on it. You can get out there. Get out there with the plastic on it. And now it's about the Aaron that's there. And it's about the Aaron that's there selling what he's trying to sell and everybody trying to buy it. And the questions about how different it is. Listen, it's going to be different because last year they had a coach for five weeks and then an interim coach the rest of the time. and a 40-year-old quarterback who was the one guy that everybody was following in terms of tone setting and everything else.

7:12Rich Eisen:Now there's a 26-year-old with a plastic covering on his foot, and the Aaron who's laying down how things are to be done is Glenn, the HC, and Garrett Wilson with quite an interesting comment from the podium today about how things are different in this Jets camp. Yeah, just the competitiveness. Not just talking about being competitive. Like, no, no, no, you got to train that way. It's got to feel like that at practice. It's got to feel like if you lose, it sucks at practice. It can't just be, oh, you know, we'll turn it on when the game comes, right? And I think that's the main thing that I see that's different, just the way we're practicing, the intensity, the stakes.

7:58Rich Eisen:It feels like there's stakes, you know, depending on which period it is, the stakes feel higher based on whether it's a competition red zone or a two-minute. It feels like you won the drill when you won the drill, right? And it feels like you lost when you lost. And to me, that's how I like it. You know, it's practice, yes, but there's also ability to, an opportunity to practice winning and get that feeling and what it takes to just do it right on a consistent basis. And I think it starts out here. When I heard that, this is what I thought. last year's Aaron and the year before that during training camp and for the first four snaps of the season do you think that Aaron was trying to communicate to the teammates that there are stakes in every single snap of practice don't you think that Aaron communicated that I do listen I know the way you feel about the chewing bark Aaron Rodgers no that Rodgers absolutely was in my estimation telling everybody every snap counts guys this gets us better I would think that a veteran quarterback of Rodgers' stature would say that the whole point of it like you don't think so you're making a face over there I just the guy who said we need to focus on everything outside of football and all the outside stuff needs to go away but who couldn't stop doing all of the outside stuff and saying about right i just find it hard to believe that that guy was like locked in 24 7 i just find it interesting that it and because let's just then for assume from my thought process here a quarterback named Aaron is saying every snap counts we got to play like it your hair's on fire even in practice we saw what happened and Aaron says it now he's the HC and there's a sense of urgency maybe because the HC can cut you yeah I like the vibe as opposed to hey if the quarterback doesn't like you maybe the HC is going to cut you you know what I mean like it's kind of different when it comes from the head coach.

10:15Rich Eisen:And you know how I feel about Salah. And Salah would be all gas, no brakes. You remember he was the guy who was looking at receipts, keeping what, CVS long Salah receipts. He said all the right things. Salah was a good front man. He did. But it just didn't work out. It didn't work out. If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popular. I like that. So, and he's a great coach. Oh, yeah. I bet you, we're having Brock Purdy on later this week. He's scheduled up here. Obviously, he's on the offensive side of the football. But any defensive player, for sure, or he will speak to it, they will say Salah's return as the defensive coordinator there will make a massive difference in San Francisco.

11:04Rich Eisen:Yeah, I buy that. Which I also believe satisfies the thought process of many Niners fans who've been thinking that since he left to go be the HC of the Jets. But my point is just like it helps when the HC is the one delivering the message about urgency. And then the other errands coming back week one to start the season because, you know, the NFL schedule makers were like, we think Rodgers is going to play for the Steelers, and we're going to give that on a plate to the National Football League audience week one. And Will McDonald, who's definitely in the mix of best pass rusher on the New York Jets, had this to say about facing Rodgers week one.

11:48Yeah, you know, I always wanted to sack Rodgers from a little kid. Actually, let me not say that, because a little kid, I wasn't even interested in playing football. But I did watch him, though. I watched him a lot. But, you know, once I – you know, like I said, when I first came here, obviously I wasn't, you know, able to do that on the team. But now, you know, I think he's going to be very competitive. I'm sure he already knows, you know, what I'm about. So I'm sure he's going to have his head on his shoulders, you know. Obviously he's the best. So he got a couple tricks off his sleeve.

12:22Rich Eisen:That's fine. Great week one game. Week one Sunday marquee, I think. Oh, yeah. Certainly in the early window. Maybe the entire, you know, the entire day up until the point the Lions and Packers kick off in Lambeau Field. There's a lot of good games. 425 local time. That's a great early window game. Oh, yeah. I think Panthers and Jags is kind of sneaky. No, I'm not talking sneaky. I'm talking marquee, pal. Marquee. Like, settle in. I got to see this. Yeah. With all due respect to every other. There's a lot of good games. I'm not saying there aren't. Yeah. I mean, you could make a great case for Cam Ward versus Bo Nix, as we did at the end of our one.

13:07Rich Eisen:Bucks Falcons. Oh, yeah. Sure. Whatever quarterbacks in Cleveland. They're all higher register ones compared to, oh, Rogers coming back to MetLife. Yeah, I'm with you. Now, you said something the other day. Was it on air or off air? I can't even tell you why. I think the show had just kind of ended, I think. we were you're like steelers jets and you gave us a total combined win number yeah of you gave us a total combined win number of 18 it was high to start yeah right yeah like and steelers jets at the end of the day 18 and then you then lowered it after tj and i are like wait a minute well i was looking at i'm looking at vegas too what is it so vegas has the jets win total at five and a half.

13:55Rich Eisen:And the Steelers at eight and a half. That's right. So that's 14. That's 14 combined for both of them. I would take the combined over there. Five and a half. Listen, say what you will about the Jets, man. But five and a half. That cupboard is not bare. That cupboard is definitely not bare. No, all that hinges on fields and how you think he's going to perform, his health. Glenn in his first run at it. Rookie coach. Tough schedule. So that's kind of with that. But 8.5 means... 8.5 for the Steelers. I know that means that somebody out there in a town where Mo Green doesn't have a plaque or a signpost, which, by the way, what an outrage.

14:39Rich Eisen:It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace. Yeah, I'm with you. But that's the other thing. Put the Steelers schedule up. We've gone through this. It is very difficult. This means, though, this means, though, that there's some people who think Tomlin's going to have his first losing record as a head coach. Yeah, you're getting plus money if you go over. Come on. I'll take that bet. Plus 105. Which is what? Plus 105. They're not finishing under 500. I agree with you. Mike Tomlin's allergic to finishing under 500. Might not go to the Super Bowl, might not win the Super Bowl, but they make the playoffs. They make the playoffs.

15:12Rich Eisen:Let's just do a schedule and find me nine wins. They have a better – this is the best quarterback they've had in three years. You want me to find you nine wins? Find nine wins. I can see them going 3-0 to start. Wow. So that's a third. Why not? Okay. Cleveland. Cleveland's another at home. That's four. Four. Okay. Home for Indianapolis could be five. The Chargers. At the Chargers? It's a tall order. Do you know what the table towels are going to be? I know it'll be loud in there. It's going to be insane. All right, sure. I'll give you that. Oh, man. No, no. That's feasible. You say, where are they?

15:50Rich Eisen:That's six. They're going to split with the Ravens. How about this one? Out of the games that Rogers will not lose, right? Like if you want to put it in the category as if he could wave a wand and just say, I'm going to do this my own self, right? At Chicago. You betcha. You bet. Wait a minute. Why would that be bigger than the Green Bay? Well, because he's the one that famously put the belt on there, man, and said he owned the team. Yeah, but he's playing the Packers. Excuse me. That's number one of them all, please. Right? Right? But the Packers are pretty darn good. We need to see what the Bears look like.

16:34Rich Eisen:That could be a tough order. But you know he's going to go into that game all week long. It's going to be this, that, the other thing about what he used to say there. He'll have his fun with it. But then he'll show up, and he will want to complete that circle. He's going through the NFC North for the last time here. And I understand his body might not be able to cash whatever his heart is trying to write as a check. True. And his soul. Okay. Home for Miami is absolutely a Monday night in the middle of December where it could be 20 degrees. That's one. Oh, yeah. You're not wrong. It's a very tough schedule.

17:13Rich Eisen:One of the Cincinnati games they could get. They could get one of the Cincinnati games easily. The game has to come. Don't forget the defense is pretty damn good, too. Yeah, well, they have one receiver, questionable running back, a shaky offensive line. What was the Chris Brockman win total? Forget Vegas. You said 16, right? Yeah, I think that 8-9 is good for the Steelers, and I think the Jets maybe at 7. I would put it maybe like 15-and-a-half. TJ, you take the over-under and 15-and-a-half wins for the Steelers and the Jets. I'll take the over. Nine. I would take the over. I'll take the over on that.

17:48Rich Eisen:I think the Jets win at least. You think 7-10 for the Jets? Is that what you're feeling there? I think the Jets win 7. I don't want to put a win total on it other than the fact that they're better than 5-12, dude. I don't know that. Barring injury. Okay. I don't know that. They have enough talented guys out there. Well, they had the talent the last two years also. Understood. Things were just not. It's a new world there. I like the vibe and in terms of you should like the vibes and on top of it you're putting in a new world they pay guys perfect example a perfect example of this being a new world is Justin Fields didn't suffer a season ending injury and could just cover it up with plastic right like a tarp you know that's new that's new fangled right there oh the Jets caught a break from the football injury gods oh huh we call that a wrinkle that's an oh henry like twist to the end of a football story please i talked to my jet friends

19:00Rich Eisen:please all right you know we're going to take a break here's what we're going to do we're going to come up with let's do five more of these from week one week one schedule week one matchups Now, are you going to put together what Vegas says or what Brockman says? We can do Vegas, and we'll use that as the launch point, and then I'll come up with a number, and you guys will go over under. TJ? I'm with it. Let's do it. And you at 844-204-RICH-NUMBER-DOLL, you want to chime in on any of this stuff? Please feel free. The hour is ours. It's like Andy Reid. The time's yours.

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22:03Rich Eisen:Jordan stories, right? We need Jordan stories. Cowboy stories. Rodman stories. Rodman stories. Chuck Daly stories. What else do we need? Phil Jackson stories. I mean, he's won championships with all the, except for the Celtics. He's won championships with all the real, like, you know. Who was he in college with? He went to Georgia Tech, so that would have been Mark Price. He predated Starbury, obviously. A Randolph Childress situation? Was he teammates with Mark Price? I'm thinking maybe, let me double check. He went to Georgia Tech. Right? Bobby Crimmins had that white, that sort of Steve Martin hair color, right?

22:46Rich Eisen:For somebody younger than that hair color, right? Right. Remember that? Right, right, right. That bowl cut he had? It went great a little early. Let's see who was on this team. Who was on his college team? Yeah, Mark Price. Mark Price. A bunch of guys are playing the league. How far do you go in the tournament? Not to use our Roku channel TV only conversation as a show prep, but why not? I mean, why not? You know, this is how the sausage gets made. This is how the sausage gets made. He lost in the Sweet 16 in 86 to LSU. That was predate Shaq, but was it?

23:27Rich Eisen:Was that the artist later known as Mahmoud Azarov? He was 80. I would say he was 87. It was not. It was against Dale Brown's LSU Tigers, that's for sure. So in 84-85, they made it to the Elite Eight, lost to Georgetown. Right. Tom Hammonds, Dwayne Farrell played on Bruce Dalrymple. Bruce Dalrymple. I haven't heard that name in forever. That was the Georgetown team that lost to Villanova. Craig Neal. Oh, man. Good stuff coming in Hour 3. Let's go to, is it Ian in Rockford, Illinois, or is it Ian, like eagle? Yep, that's correct. Well, I said two, and then you said that's correct. Which one is it?

24:07Rich Eisen:Probably the first one. Sorry, it's Ian. It sounds like an E. Okay, Ian in Rockford, Illinois. Is it Illinois or Illinois? I'm sorry, okay. Much love to my man, Scott Ian. What's on your mind, Ian, in Rockford, Illinois? Well, even though I'm calling from Illinois, I am a faithful Packers fan. I want to do the old Packers win. Oh, there we go. Packers fan in Illinois. That's like a Michigan fan in Ohio or an Ohio fan in the state up north. All right, here we go. Yep, that's right. All right, let me get the page. Okay. School in Oshkosh. Okay. Okay. And then you went to Rockford, Illinois. Here we go.

24:52Rich Eisen:Ian, what happens when the Packers start against the Lions in Lambeau Field week one? What happens? Well, you know what? They're tired of losing at home to those guys. That's a win. All right. 1-0 home against the team that knocked them out of the playoffs, right? No, no. Pardon me. That was the Eagles. The Washington Commanders on a Thursday night. I think that's another win for us. That's 2-0 in five days. All right. at the Browns. What happens then? That's a win. Come on. 3-0. Oh, this is going to be fun. At the Dallas Cowboys. Ian in Rockford, Illinois. Sorry, TJ, but the owners are back. That's another win.

25:31Rich Eisen:The owners are back. That says Ian in Rockford, Illinois. But at least he apologized to you first before thoroughly disrespecting you. I don't like his choice of words, but the thing is, they got us. Alright, 4-0 into the bye. We're coming out. Home for the Bengals and Joe Burrow. You know, like Joe, I think this is another win. 5-0 at the Cardinals.

25:58Rich Eisen:I'm still going to go with another win here. Yeah, I bet you didn't think you would start playing the win-loss game for the Packers and have them start 6-0, but that's how you wind up playing the win-loss game. 6-0 at the Steelers. What happens when you take on Rodgers? You know, I think he's going to be disappointed. I think Jordan Love takes it home. That's another win. Could you imagine if the Packers are the last remaining undefeated team going into that game? Now we're talking. But they come out at 7-0 in Ian's World, home for the Panthers. That's a win. Oh, yeah. 8-0 against the team that did bounce you.

26:36Rich Eisen:Eagles on a Monday night in Lambeau. How huge is that going to be on the ESPN family of networks? It's going to be a big game. I think that we're too confident in this one. I think this is a loss. All right. 8-1 at the Giants. That's a win. 9-1 home for the Vikings. We'll win that one. 10-1 at the Lions to kick off the John Madden Thanksgiving celebration.

27:05Rich Eisen:I think we sweep the Lions this year. That's a win. That's 11-1 home for the Bears. The Bears. That's a win. 12-1 at the Broncos. That's a win. 13-1 at the Bears on a Saturday. That's a win. 13-1 home for the Ravens on a Saturday. This is the return of Jair Alexander. Unfortunately, I think this one's lost. 13-2 at the... Pardon me. That's... Wait a minute. Let me get this right. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14-2 at the Vikings. I think we'll split Minnesota. That's a lot. Okay. So you finished 14-3 on a two-game losing streak. Ian in Rockford, Illinois. Thanks for the call, brother. There he goes. Over 13.5 wins is 9-1 for the Packers.

27:59Rich Eisen:Okay. Two. So we just had a win-loss game for the Packers be 14-3 in the previous segment, previously on the Rich Eisen show, meaning about 10 minutes ago. Chris Brock when you asked Jets Steelers a week one contest over under win total combined between the two 15 and a half you went under right I think under yes TJ and I we both said over okay barely over but yeah you have five more contests from week one and have compiled a win loss total for us to go over under on one from a certain town where Mo Green does not have a plaque or a signpost or anything to remember, the man who founded the town.