Rich Doesn't Know How To Harness The News Coming Out Of Jets Camp

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3:54Rich Eisen:we will start in the world of the National Football League. Listen.

4:04Rich Eisen:I don't even know how to harness the news that has come out of Jets camp. Don't even know how to harness the news that's come out of Jets camp. Just to start this program. You lit a cigarette this morning? No, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. Listen. we all know the default position the football gods have with the Jets and their fans. I've said it here. This is going to be year 11 for us coming up. Our 11th anniversary is coming up this fall. Yeah, 12th season. 11th year, yeah. 11th anniversary. I've been saying it ever since we came on the air here. And everybody knows I grew up in Staten Island, New York, and the football team I rooted for as a kid, the New York Jets.

4:55Rich Eisen:And I don't think they'll have to restate that for the audience that we're moving to. Certainly, I've been around a while. And I keep saying it over and over again. The football gods seem to get together and say, how in the world can we come up with new ways to kick the Jets fans in the Nards? And I guess one way to do it is to kick it with the dislocated toe of their new 26-year-old, two-year,$20 million-a-year quarterback that they're putting all of their hopes and dreams into. Because today, Justin Fields out there on the field, the same field that Aaron Rodgers stepped onto two summers ago, too much Ballyhoo.

5:45Rich Eisen:and the savior of the jets that rogers was and we all know four snaps into that his achilles gave way and yada yada yada he's now on the steelers and the jets didn't make the playoffs in either of those years let alone the super bowl which is what was in the mind's eye of everybody when rogers showed up he steps out on that field and somebody steps on his toe apparently and dislocates it i don't know which toe it is we do know it's the right foot because aaron glenn said that and And we'll get to that soundbite in a second. Not the big toe. Who knows? I think it's... What toe it is? It suffered a dislocated toe?

6:20Rich Eisen:Or not the big toe? Not the big toe. Okay, very good. So I guess he still has a chance to be the big toe, figuratively, to use a stripes phrase of the New York Jets this year.

6:31Rich Eisen:I'm not a doctor. But one would say a dislocated toe sounds pretty damn bad. he got to get carded off we have no idea what's going on with him the Jets on this day July 24th have a lot of time to get ready for the Pittsburgh Steelers and I imagine the next snap Justin Fields takes for the New York Jets will be the first snap he takes in the 2025 regular season whenever the hell that is Okay, that's what it sounds like right now.

7:17And it's unreal.

7:20Rich Eisen:Because the Jets have done pretty much everything right since hiring Aaron Glenn. With maybe the exception of making Aaron Rodgers drag his 40-plus-year-old self across the country just to be told by Aaron Glenn, Yeah, we're not going to go forward together.

7:44Rich Eisen:You know, every other thing that they've done, they did go ahead and hire a new coach, and they did say we're going to have a new Aaron in town, and he is the voice of this team, and he is going to be the guy, the Aaron that sets the tone, and the Aaron that creates the atmosphere in the locker room. He's the one that we follow, and he's the head coach. He's not the quarterback, which makes sense. Quarterbacks are all leaders, but yes, there's a head coach. And they hired a guy who they drafted in the league. And they hired a general manager who's smart enough to realize, okay, we have an offensive rookie of the year wide receiver who's going to have to get paid soon, and we've got a defensive rookie of the year quarterback who's going to have to get paid soon.

8:37Rich Eisen:Let's pay him early. Let's get it out of the way. Let's go into the season with them taken care of. And our two leaders in Garrett Wilson and in Sauce Gardner will be happy campers, and they will go crush it. And that's what the Jets did there. And they were, be that whatever you want to say, with highly talented tight ends and other players on the board. They hit the offensive line again in the first round of the draft. They draft Jason Taylor's kid in Mason and say, you'll be the tight end, along with Jeremy Ruckert of the future. They did it all right. But at some point, I don't know what's good.

9:19Rich Eisen:Who has to get sacrificed? What has to get sacrificed? A goat. To tell the football gods, will you stop kicking us there? Joe Namus mink coat. I don't know what it is. now again it doesn't appear that he's done for the season right it does appear to be an injury that could linger into the season let's not forget again deion sanders did not retire because he couldn't play anymore and he didn't play retire because his knee gave way or his hip gave way it was a toe that he eventually had to get taken care of surgically and remove it

10:00Rich Eisen:that was a big toe it's a different toe whatever toe it is the jets now are already on july 24th having a head coach talk about a next man up at quarterback hit it justin went down with toe in the right side of his foot um listen i don't know the severity of the injury, but I do notice the toe on his right side. And, listen, we have an outstanding backup in Tyrod, who's been in this league for around 14 years. So the leadership that he brings, listen, we're all good. We're all good. I really have to look at the tape. I know it's a quick throw. I'm assuming someone stepped on his toe. It had to be because of the nature of the call that we had as far as offensive play call.

10:49Rich Eisen:So, again, I want to look at the tape and be sure. Oh, so it's a freak injury. Oh, okay, that makes complete sense because it's the football gods. Still pissed about something. I don't know what it is. And just when you thought the Jets would not be talking about feet anymore. Hey, now. I'm sorry. It was right there. You can't pass that up. No, no, no. The fruit was low-hanging. It's a layup, but, you know. Listen, Terod Taylor, that's not why the Jets are playing the Steelers in week one. They were swapping quarterbacks. They got a new 26-year-old. They re-sign his and extend his college stud teammate.

11:37Rich Eisen:And Justin Fields is supposed to be a two-way threat. He's supposed to be able to run and pass, and we're supposed to see what it looks like. and it looks like not even get four snaps out of it week one. Maybe they do. Maybe the, what is it, five weeks, six weeks between now and then will be enough. It could be one of those four to six weekers. I don't know. I'm not a dislocated toe expert. I don't know. Could this be Terod Taylor's, what, Rich Gannon moment? Who knows? Football gods are probably laughing. Over that sentiment. You know. But again, this is going to be Aaron Glenn's moment to rise from.

12:25Rich Eisen:And again, we don't know if it's ashes. We don't know. We don't think it is. It may not be. I don't want to make too much out of it. But again, there's only one team in the NFL right now that's talking about an X-man up at quarterback. and is talking about, you know, we'll survive this. There's only one team who's got a quarterback injury to deal with in day two or three of training camp. There's only one. I mean, Matthew Stafford's sitting out with a lower back injury just because, what, he's pushing 40 and they need to be careful. We don't need to get him out there. There's only one team right now thinking, is our guy going to be ready for week one at quarterback?

13:06Rich Eisen:The one that we put a smart move into a 20, just$20 million a year basket into at age 26. There's only one team that's dealing with that right now. We know which team it is. Only one team had somebody step on the kid's toe and break it or dislocate it. Pardon me. It's not broken. But Aaron Glenn, at least, he's got to be looking around saying, do I have to sacrifice something of my own? because it was his side of the football in Detroit last year that had, what's the grand total number, 90 ,000 people put on injured reserve? Is that accurate? Do you want to AI it? 21 injured reserve, 16 on defense.

13:50Rich Eisen:And they were the ones who still wound up being the one seed in the NFC after all of it. And, of course, that is something that Aaron Glenn rightfully made reference to in his press conference today. Anybody goes down, there's a lump in my throat. Listen, I hate injuries for any player. Here's the thing, guys. Listen, last year, and you guys know this, is I went through a situation last year with Detroit where Hutch goes down, Anzalone goes down, Lane McNeil goes down. Man, you keep playing football. That's just what it is. And I've said this several times, and our players know this. It's more about the play style than the playbook.

14:25Rich Eisen:And our players understand that we're going to play a certain way, no matter who's in there. And that's what we're going to do. And our players got confidence with anybody that's in there because of the way that I'll talk to them, because of the way that we're built. So we're going to keep moving no matter what the situation is, no matter what happens with any player that gets hurt. Man, we've got to keep moving. This league is not going to stop just because of injuries. And trust me, I know that firsthand. Love it. Ryan, I mean, what else is the guy going to say? Am I wrong? Yeah. You know? So instead of maybe getting, if this does linger, instead of getting that Justin Fields, Aaron Rodgers, team swap, quarterback, body swap, freakier Sunday movie in week one of a reunion, hey, maybe the Jets fans will have to, in their second week, potentially enjoy that Terod Taylor revenge game against the Bills.

15:29Rich Eisen:How about that, right? Now you're cooking. You see what I'm saying? I'm trying to build narratives here. That's right. Okay. And then they'll go see Todd Bowles, who's like, oh, quarterback problems with the Jets. I can read you a few chapters from that book. The guy who's drafted Sam Darnold. Okay. We can go down that road. Let's go down that road. You want to go down that road? Sure, let's go down that road, that memory lane. All right. Honestly, there's only one team right now on the first Thursday of training camp. First Thursday. Saying, how long is our quarterback going to be out? Was Kirk Cousins that George Clooney gif where he like popped up?

16:20Well, I mean, listen, but just like, again, just like in when Rodgers blew out his Achilles

16:28Rich Eisen:and the Jets knew he was done for the year and they decided to see what they still had in Zach Wilson as if we did not know and didn't make a move for whatever reason and maybe the reason was they thought, well, we have more runway with Rodgers next year. Why are we going to go and get a veteran now? We'll get Rodgers back next year and we all know what happened next year. Robert Sala didn't see more than just a quarter of it. the Jets now are going to be sitting there thinking, well, when's he coming back? Why would they go ahead? They have a 14-year veteran, as Aaron Glenn was pointing out, on their bench.

17:07Rich Eisen:Why would they go give draft capital for Kirk Cousins if their kid's coming back in the first month of the season? Right. Right? And I can detest to you seeing him at the American Century Championship. Derek Carr looked like a retired person. He was very content and happy in that regard. Yeah, the Jets said he'd be a Hall of Famer with them. Well, I mean, that was pre-Rogers. You know, I'm just saying. That was P-A-R. But par for the course is this. And for Jet fans, for you out there, I look forward to birdies, eagles, albatrosses, because this albatross that they need to have right now removed off their back, I can't fathom.

17:56Again, if you even knew, if I told you at the top of the week,

18:02Rich Eisen:one team would be dealing with an injury like this to their quarterback, and I gave you one guess, which team would be the team dealing with it? Which team would you say? Yeah, the Jets would be minus money, probably. And I would say to you, that is just playing the brand, man. It's finally going to be over. You know, you're just, that's the lowest of the lowest hanging fruit. Choose somebody else. Right. And the football gods would say, no, no, no. Not yet. But, again, just to wrap it up, might not be that bad. Right. But preseason, were you going to see him once? No. Are we going to be, what's more likely, you'll see him in the preseason or in week three, week four, week five of the season, it's just like, still not over it?

18:59Rich Eisen:Oh, the latter. Okay. Got it. Let me write that down. Okay. So we'll talk about Tom Pelissero. I want information. I want him. I'm basically going to, the first few minutes of my conversation with him, I'm going to turn Tom Pelissero into a podiatrist. Okay. So. Should I text Tom and give him a headset? I'm going to text Tom now to call podiatry and information in that order. Yep. Words I've never said into this microphone. Podiatry and information, was that a Seals and Croft song? No, that was Fifth Dimension, right? The Fifth Dimension. What do you know about the Fifth Dimension? Come on. In a way.

19:48Come on.

19:48Rich Eisen:Come on. I almost named Taylor Marilyn McCoo. No, I did not. That's all fake. Suze, that's fake. She knows that's fake. Middle name. You only got middle name. I got middle name. Yeah, yeah. I went Mattingly. I went another M. Too much to. Too late to M. Podiatry and information. My first Little League team was. Again, that sounds like the fifth dimension. My first Little League team, Rich, was called Central Podiatry. There we go. That's better than Chico's Bail Bonds. Is it, though? I hate where Ritz was going. That's a bad sponsor. That's kind of dope. I might do exactly where Ritz was going.

20:23Rich Eisen:Nice. All right, let's take a break. Tyron Matthews, retired. He's zooming in. Let's check in with her. One of our favorites. Yeah. Tyron Matthew, when we come back. Oh, stop it. Yes! Yes! Yes!

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21:50Rich Eisen:Ask for O 'Reilly Veriscan today. I remember at the combine that this guy was at, I believe that was in 2013, Deion Sanders was down on the field and he said, do not discount this young man, despite the way his college career ended. That not only is he special, he could be great in the NFL and have a long career. And a lot of people are like, okay, Dion. And joining us now after a 12-season career in the National Football League that he just announced a retirement from, a Super Bowl champion, three-time first-team All-Pro, three-time Pro Bowler, and a member of the 2010's All-Decade team for the National Football League, one of our favorites, Tyron Matthews here on the Rich Eisen Show.

22:35Rich Eisen:Good to see you, Tyron Matthew. How are you, sir? I'm doing good, Rich. How are you doing? I'm doing great. I know Marshall Falk always told me, don't tell somebody congratulations after they've played a career because, you know, there's still more to go. And I know you're one of those folks who has still more to write, more chapters to write. But I do want to offer you congratulations. Not a lot of people have a career like the one that you just finished, Tyron. And I'm wondering what your thoughts are right now. Well, thanks, Rich. I mean, that really that really means a lot to me. You know, honestly, man, the thing that I can really reflect back on or really point to is that, you know, it was the coaches.

23:18It was the teammates I had, man. Like, I was so blessed. I was so fortunate. And I tell dudes all the time, it's like, you know, when I came into the league, man, at 20 years old, right, with everything that I had kind of been through, you know, Arizona was just such a great place. for me to get drafted. You know, Patrick Peterson was there. You know, Larry Fitzgerald was there. Talais Campbell. You know, the Dwight Freeney. Then Darnell Dockett. Carlos Dansby. Rashad Johnson. Gerard Powers. I mean, all these guys played 10 years plus, you know, in the NFL. And what I respected the most about those guys was that professionalism, you know, each and every day.

24:03And I think being a young guy, you know, coming from where I come from and experiences that I had, you know, in the years before to be around guys that just took it serious. Right. Like and, you know, played great football. You know, I talk about Larry all the time and it's like, you know, it was a blessing to be able to, you know, have that experience, you know, early on. And I really do feel like that really kind of set the stage for me to be, you know, not just a really good football player, but, you know, someone that, you know, the community could be proud of, you know. And so, you know, I was definitely blessed, man, to say the least.