In short
Seth Rollins (WWE guest host) fills in on The Rich Eisen Show and delivers “power rankings” of his all-time top 10 wrestling finishing moves. He also reacts to NFL news: Chargers WR Mike Williams (30) plans to retire, with speculation about a potential Keenan Allen return. Rollins’ finishing-move list includes: #10 The People’s Elbow (The Rock); #9 Chokeslam (Paul Heyman/Big Men vibe); #8 Razor’s Edge/Powerbomb variation (Scott Hall; Damien Priest); #7 Macho Man elbow off the top (Randy Savage); #6 Spear (Goldberg/Roman Reigns; praises Bron Breakker’s spear); #5 Sharpshooter (Brett Hart; Sting’s Scorpion Deathlock mentioned); #4 Splash (top-rope variants); #3 Sweet Chin Music (Shawn Michaels); #2 “Cutter”/RKO; #1 The Stomp (Namichi Marufuji origin; Rollins credits TJ Wilson/Tyson Kidd for suggesting it as a finish).
Notable examples
Jelly Roll chokeslamming Logan Paul; Paige’s “kick in the nuts” party trick (no contact).
Guests
WNBA All-Star Brittany Hicks; UFC legend Daniel Cormier (talks UFC 318 Poirier vs Holloway 3, Poirier’s retirement, and transitioning to broadcasting); plus callers.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSeth Rollins Shares His Experience
2:15 to 3:40
Seth Rollins discusses his time guest hosting and his connection to sports.
“You know, when you decided you were going to do this, we didn't realize your Friday would potentially be open.”
Breaking News: Mike Williams Retirement
3:40 to 5:02
The team discusses the sudden retirement of NFL player Mike Williams.
“Veteran wide receiver Mike Williams, he bounced around with teams, but obviously got his start with the Chargers.”
Reflections on Athlete Retirement
5:02 to 7:20
Seth Rollins reflects on athlete retirements and future directions post-career.
“And he gave us one of our favorite drops.”
Introduction to Finishing Moves
7:20 to 8:05
Seth Rollins introduces the concept of finishing moves in wrestling.
“I don't know if this has the itch for me.”
Power Rankings: The People's Elbow
8:05 to 9:50
Seth Rollins discusses his number 10 choice, The People's Elbow, and its significance.
“with the You Can't See Me and the shoulder tackles and the whirly bird.”
Power Rankings: The Choke Slam
9:50 to 11:06
Seth Rollins talks about the Choke Slam and its execution in wrestling.
“You know, it's actually difficult to remember which way to go sometimes.”
Power Rankings: Razor's Edge
11:06 to 12:15
Seth Rollins shares insights on the Razor's Edge and its practitioners.
“We'll see if he busts that out in the tag match coming up at SummerSlam.”
Power Rankings: Macho Man's Elbow
12:15 to 13:20
Discussion on the iconic elbow drop by Macho Man Randy Savage.
“I don't like anything bad happening to EO.”
Power Rankings: The Spear
13:20 to 14:00
Seth Rollins discusses the spear and notable wrestlers who used it.
“Shout out to Kyrie for her insane elbow.”
Seth Rollins' Top Finishing Moves
14:00 to 19:34
Seth Rollins discusses his ranking of the top wrestling finishing moves.
“He does the one where he runs around the ring at full speed.”
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Daniel Cormier Joins the Show
22:01 to 28:00
Daniel Cormier discusses his current activities and UFC events.
“Like, what's the move that you could actually perform right now?”
Dustin Poirier vs. Max Holloway Trilogy
28:00 to 29:00
Discussing the dynamics of the upcoming fight between Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway and the implications for both fighters.
“how do you deal with the love and respect knowing that you still have a fight to win this weekend?”
Retirement Reflections
29:00 to 31:10
Exploring the emotional challenges fighters face when transitioning out of their careers.
“That's an interesting dynamic you bring up because, yeah, Max is still in the game.”
Dustin's Daughter's Letter
31:10 to 31:42
Seth shares a touching moment about Dustin Poirier's daughter's letter regarding his retirement.
The Shift to Broadcasting
31:42 to 33:31
Discussion on the transition from being a fighter to a commentator and the necessary adjustments.
“We have daughters, and nothing means more than when your daughter tells you something special.”
Physical Fitness Plans
33:31 to 35:49
Talking about the importance of physical fitness and working with trainers like Jason Kalipa.
“We are blessed to have the opportunity for our words to not only impact people, but to have the ability to speak of all these great athletes.”
What Makes a Champion
35:50 to 39:42
Exploring the mindset and characteristics that differentiate elite athletes from champions.
“go work out, train, get better, following goals my whole life.”
Preview of UFC 318
39:42 to 40:04
Previewing the upcoming UFC 318 event and the significance of the main fight.
“I love the mindset of elite champions, man.”
Fight Predictions
40:04 to 42:00
Discussing predictions for the upcoming fight between Poirier and Holloway.
“I know I'm going to tune in to watch it.”
Debating UFC Fight Outcomes
42:00 to 42:54
The hosts discuss the upcoming fight between Max and Dustin and their predictions.
“That's why you just pick them pretty much.”
Titus Welliver's Impressions and Commentary
43:47 to 47:28
Titus Welliver shares impressions of Al Pacino while discussing sports and culture.
“Learn more at visit.kpmg.us slash velocity.”
Listener Calls and Fan Interaction
47:28 to 49:53
Seth Rollins interacts with fans through listener calls, discussing sports topics.
“Can we just do six hours today, you know, and stay on?”
Remembering Bray Wyatt
49:53 to 51:48
Seth reflects on his relationship with Bray Wyatt and the impact he had.
“We're going to see if we can get somebody else in here real quick.”
Transcript
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1:12Rich Eisen:Available at the Home Depot, how doers get more done. Only when using stone baked pizza mode, cook time requires preheat and reheat, and may vary based on ingredients. All I give a damn about. The Rich Eisen Show. Four-time WNBA All-Star Brittany Hicks is here. Give it up for Brittany, everybody. I'm joking around. That's my friend's wife. I knew none of you knew WNBA players. This is The Rich Eisen Show. With guest host, WWE superstar Seth Rollins. My feelings on CM Punk are not hard to find. Don't like the guy, never liked the guy, haven't liked the guy, probably never going to like the guy.
1:46Rich Eisen:Earlier on the show, undefeated boxing champion Terrence Crawford. Coming up, UFC broadcaster Daniel Cormier. And now, sitting in for Rich, it's WWE superstar Seth Rollins. We have come down to the final hour here on the Seth Rollins show of my final day filling in for Rich. Man, it's bittersweet. It's bittersweet, guys. I know, right? I got to come back. I think I got the itch, man. Yeah, I think Seth. You know, when you decided you were going to do this, we didn't realize your Friday would potentially be open. Oh. We didn't know that. Wow. You know, we could have had you for another day. Could have had me for another day.
2:31Rich Eisen:One chair shot. You know what? We'll come back, man. As you should. We got to do this. Like I said, I do think I got the itch. I think I like it. I love it. It's fun, right? It's fun. It's so much fun. It's fun. I mean, you guys make it great. Don't want to toot your horn too much, but you make it great. You're easy to talk to. You make it easy for me. But I like the vibe, man. talking about sports. I mean, I love talking about sports. Come on now. Sure. Come on. Is there a better gig in the world? We could be talking politics. That would be fun. I'm sure that would be fun. Good God. Seth Rollins here, WWE superstar, filling in on the Rich Eisen Show for Rich.
3:07We're going to get to some callers in a bit. If you want to call in, 844-204-RICH. You can watch us live at the Roku Sports Channel, Infinity Sports Network, Sirius XM, Channel 375, stream for free on the Odyssey app or at odyssey.com. Follow Rich at the Rich Eisen Show on social media. Me at WWE Rollins on social media as well. And before we get to these power rankings of my all-time top finishing moves in the history of professional wrestling, we have a shock development here in the NFL. We have a shock retirement. Brockman, you want to let us know? J.F.O., hit the breaking news. Hit it. Hit it.
3:49Rich Eisen:Here it comes. And Murray, I see. Breaking news. Kind of a stunning development. Veteran wide receiver Mike Williams, he bounced around with teams, but obviously got his start with the Chargers. He's back with them. Told the team that he plans to retire. Whoa. Walking away after eight seasons, 2 ,000-yard years, but obviously a career with much promise when he came into the league. Just troubled with injuries. Couldn't really stay healthy. Put it all together for multiple seasons. informed Harbaugh and company he is retiring. Wow. Just a week before training camp. Yeah, do we have any intel on what we think or at least hypothesis on what this might, what do we think this is?
4:31I mean, he wasn't hurt last season. Did we do no injuries going into the offseason that we were aware of? Chargers seem to be a team on the come up. Yeah. You know, second year for Harbaugh. First year was solid, I think. they got a good squad. Real good, yeah. Yeah, I mean, some people have them and the Chargers in the top 10. Yeah, they made the playoffs last year. I don't know, Adam Schefter saying that Mike Williams' agent informed the team last night that he is walking away at age 30. That's wild.
5:03Rich Eisen:Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And he gave us one of our favorite drops. That was him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And you know what, TJ? We were talking about this guy earlier off the air. Got to wonder if this is now a Keenan Allen spot to return to the Chargers. Yes. Definitely, Seth, you brought up, had Keenan sign with anyone? I didn't know if he had signed. We don't think so, so maybe he returns back. But, yeah, I mean, 30 years old, man, and you would know this, right? You haven't reached this point, obviously, but you would think an athlete would get to that point and know when it's over, right?
5:36Yeah, you know, I don't know. Because it seems so sudden, right? It seems so sudden, like right before training camp. He's 30 years old. Like I said, you know, he's had some injuries in the past. But, again, it didn't appear anything we were, like, looking at this year. Like, oh, no, he's hampered going into the season or anything like that. So it feels sudden. So I wonder – I always wonder about these things. Like, was it sudden? Was it he just woke up, you know, this morning or the other day?
6:07Rich Eisen:Well, they had him on the pup list. Yeah, maybe it's something he was thinking about. And, look, the year was starting. They're like, hey, Mike, what's the deal? You good? You in or out? and he's just like, no, I'm done. I'll be curious to hear that. I'm always so curious when athletes are talented, they retire at a young age. I just go like, this is a guy that's probably played football his whole life to be as good as you are and play in the NFL and get to that level. Every single day you wake up and this is what you do, and then at 30 years old you're like, I'm done. I'm going to do something else.
6:40I go, what is that other thing you're going to do, man? I'm so fascinated by that. I think about that all the time with myself. Like my career, I'm not at the end, but I'm certainly much closer to the end than the beginning. You know, I'm on the back end of whatever this, you know, career is going to look like. I'm 39. I'll be 40 next year. You know, obviously, you know, injuries aren't the same in what we do compared to professional sports. The performance aspect is a little bit different, but I think about that all the time. I think about, well, what am I going to do after I retire? Am I just going to be a dad?
7:10Rich Eisen:Am I just going to like, what am I going to do? I think we're figuring out over the last few hours. is what you probably are going to end up doing for the third, second chapter of your life. I have the itch for this. I don't know if this has the itch for me. We'll see. But I do love this. I do love this. I think there's something here. There's some magic in the air. I don't know what it is, but I like it. So hopefully we can do more. We can do more here. Should we get to the power rankings? Let's do it. Should we talk about finishing moves? Absolutely. Finishing moves are awesome. They're the greatest.
7:45They are awesome. Finishing moves in professional wrestling, a signature move, something a guy or girl does to finish his opponent at the end of the match. Pops the ground. Gets the biggest reaction. Sometimes there's a big setup for it. There's a series of moves that lead into it. John Cena's got his big comeback that leads into the AA with the You Can't See Me and the shoulder tackles and the whirly bird. He's got that. Randy Orton's got his vipers up. All of these things, you know? So there's tons of lore around professional wrestling finishing moves. And I have compiled a list of my all-time top 10 power ranking finishing moves in the history of professional wrestling.
8:37Y 'all ready for it? Hit it! Let's take it away. There he is.
8:42Rich Eisen:Power rankings! But this one is live. Power rankings. Let's go. All right. Right off the bat, number 10. You know, this one, there might be some controversy here. There might be some controversy because this is, some people hate this move. Some people hate it. They think it's disgusting, disgraced, should never be done in a wrestling ring. I love it because it's everything that's great about pro wrestling. It's pageantry. It's impact. It's power. It's pomp. It's circumstance. It is The People's Elbow. Oh, okay. Done by one man, the great Dwayne Johnson, good friend of mine. The Rock, there he is at WrestleMania 40, delivering it to Cody Rhodes.
9:29He won that match. I was in that match. I lost that match. Why would we use that picture? Why would we use that picture? You can get The Rock doing a million people's elbows, and that's the one you picked. You disgust me. There we go. There he is. TJ's got the cardboard cutout with the fanny pack and everything. Looking good over there. The people's elbow. I love it. The full setup. The elbow pad comes off. The boom. You know, it's actually difficult to remember which way to go sometimes. First, you got to go left and you come back right so you can hit the proper angle with the elbow drop. But I love it.
10:01I love the people's elbow. I don't love that picture that we used. It is disrespectful. Let's move on. Let's get some respect. That cardboard cutout is disrespectful. You like his shirt? That's heinous, man. That is heinous. I would wear that shirt, to be fair.
10:21Rich Eisen:You can have it. Let's talk. Let's talk. Number nine. Number nine. The Choke Slam. Oh, baby. Perfected by the big men in professional wrestling. It's gotten bigger. There you go. There we go. Now we're back. That was the run-in. Now we're back. WrestleMania 40. The back, the weight belt flying in the air. Look at the cameras in the background. People on their feet. The Oracle, Paul Heyman there, very upset with what's going on. He figured it out, though. Devastating chokeslam. Devastating chokeslam. You just grab the guy, arm over, you pick him up sky high and put him in the ground. You know who's got a great chokeslam?
11:03Jelly Roll. I saw that. Jelly Roll got a hell of a chokeslam. We'll see if he busts that out in the tag match coming up at SummerSlam. Him and the Viper, Randy Orton against Logan Paul. I would love to see him choke slam.
11:14Rich Eisen:Well, you saw he put Logan Paul through a table on Kimmel yesterday. He put him through a table? Yeah. Through the Kimmel table? What? Was it a choke slam? It was a choke slam. Wow. It was Jelly Roll and Randy doing an interview. Drew came out. Oh, no. He and Randy got into it. Yep. Logan came out. He and Jelly Roll start getting into it. He slapped Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll picked him up and put him through the table. Why would you slap Jelly, man? That's not nice. Well, that's Logan for you, right? He gets what he deserves. He gets what he deserves. All right, number eight. We talked about the Powerbomb a lot, different variations of the Powerbomb.
11:46This is sort of a variation of the Powerbomb. One of my favorites of all time, perfected by the bad guy. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Scott Hall, Razor Ramon, the Razor's Edge, a.k.a. the Outsider Edge, if you want to go with Scott Hall. One of my favorites. Damien Priest uses it now. You can do it into a sit-out version, which really rocks. We were Ripley throwing it in there as well. She nearly decapitated EO Sky at Evolution on Sunday. I don't like that at all.
12:15Rich Eisen:I don't like anything bad happening to EO. You're a big EO guy. Oh, Seth, you have no idea. Oh, okay. Oh, it's like that. It's like that. It's like that. It's like that. Okay, all right, I get it. I'm professional here, Seth. All right, I understand that. You bring up Becky Lynch, I feel the same way, so I get that. I understand that. There's a big difference, though. I understand that. Well, you know, one is my wife, yes. Number seven. Moving on. Number seven. From the top, brother. Macho man, Randy Savage. A lot of imitators, not a lot of duplicators. Number one, macho man, Randy Savage, elbow off the top.
13:00Just a thing of beauty, man. and he would drive that elbow with that big bicep right down into the heart of his opponent. Not the CM Punk elbow. Not the CM Punk elbow. That is the sloppiest, ugliest, nastiest thing I've ever seen in my whole life. Oh, my goodness. Get that stank out of here. Macho man for the win.
13:20Rich Eisen:Shout out to Kyrie for her insane elbow. Kyrie, hell, she's got a cool one, man. She put some stank on hers. Yeah, absolutely. Number six, the spear. the spear used by many many many different folks uh over the years there's a good one my favorite one uh pioneered you know bill goldberg the uh legend retired rhino gore rhino had the gore gore gore edge had a great spear won a lot of titles with it roman reigns obviously utilized the spear uh much to my dismay but there's the one maybe the best spear of all time in the history of the business and i'm and i'm not saying that because he's my boy brun breaker.
13:58He's got a spear, dog. You watch him spear. He does the one where he runs around the ring at full speed. Oh my goodness.
14:06Rich Eisen:What he did to I show speed Oh my god. He should have caught a case for that. Speaking of doing 30 days in the pen, he should have been locked up for 45. He had to have just, I mean, he put his body through the mat. Whiplash the whole nine. The greatest moment, second greatest moment of Wrestlemania this past year. Number five, we're going submission route. Sharpshooter, my favorite submission. The most copied submission, a.k.a. the Scorpion Deathlock by the legend Sting. But Sharpshooter, perfected by the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. Brett the Hitman Hart. Very effective submission.
14:49Fun to put on. I used to try to put it on my brother all the time, figure out how to do the legs. It's a good one. For number four, we're going back to the top rope because I love top row moves, man. I love them. I love a top row move. I was always a fan of the high flyers growing up. The Splash. The Super Flash. Now the Uso Splash. We love it. There he is. Big Jim. There he is. Big Jim. Saturday Night's main event right there hitting his brother, his younger brother. Solo Sokoa with the Splash. Almost got the dub.
15:19Rich Eisen:It's going to be weird for those guys, man. Yeah, I know, right? That's got to be crazy. I don't know what's going on at the picnic, at the barbecue, whatever they got going on in the backyard. they'll figure it out. I love a splash, man. I love it off the top of the cage. I love all the variations. I love like a corkscrew splash. I love like a 450 splash. I love a shooting star press splash. I do a Phoenix splash. You do it quite well. I hadn't hit one in a while, but I can still do one occasionally. That's one of my earliest wrestling moments is Snooka coming off the cage and missing back ones.
15:48There you go, man. Yeah, something special about that splash coming off the top. Number three, one of my favorites of all time as well. Sweet chin music. There he is. He's got the shirt on right there. Heartbreak Kid. Shawn Michaels. The super kick. I love it because of the setup. I love the stomp. I love the quickness of it. You can hit it on anybody. And now, everybody does it. Everybody does a super kick. That's the mark. And the fact that Shawn Michaels today could still go out, hit somebody with one, and that's the end of the match. Boom. Sweet chin music. He's the one, the only, the pioneer.
16:28I love it. The showstopper, the main event. He is the old Mr. WrestleMania. That's right, because you're looking at the new Mr. WrestleMania. Number two, look, we had to put a bunch of these together because I don't know what you want to call it. Call it the cutter, the diamond cutter, the ace crusher, the RKO, the stone cold stunner, the KO stunner. You can even do it in many variations. You got the Cody cutter off the second rope. You got the super cutter. Cody does the big jumping one. You got the soul snatcher. Soruka and NXT. We got them all, man. You got all these different variations of the cutter.
17:06And that's the one of the coolest things. And the RKO, which is the most devastating letters in all of sports entertainment. And the RKO has transcended professional wrestling. Now you see people RKO and their friends in the pools. Hitting anybody anywhere. You know, you just run up behind them, grab their head, pull them to the ground.
17:22Rich Eisen:I had filler with it here on the putting green about a month ago. See? And the fact that you can do an RKO means anybody can do an RKO. Wow. We love that. Thank you so much. And you might be wondering, what's better than the RKO? What's better than that? Well, of course. There's only one finishing move that tops the list. My power rankings. And that is the stomp. There it is. Bye-bye. Look at that. First of all, look at the physique on that guy. look at that jack look at the abs ripped i'm almost 40 years old i ate pizza last night son i ate pizza last night that's what i did i had a cookie too i had pizza and a cookie that's right and i still look like that uh-huh i probably don't look like that today but you know that monday when i put pinta in the ground i look like that yeah the stomp man look i can't take all the credit i didn't pioneer the move i didn't invent it it was invented by Namichi Marifuji, Japanese legend, one of the greatest.
18:26He did the move. Alex Shelley, one of the Motor City machine guns now in WWE, used to do the move as well. I was doing the move as a signature move for a long time, not even my finish. And it was TJ Wilson, Tyson Kidd, who was a producer, is a producer for WWE. He said, man, that looks amazing. You put a little stank on that. i think that could be a finishing move for you bada bing bada boom we're back in it you know what i mean it got taken away it's so good it got it got banned for a little while the higher up said it's too good it's too good you got to find something else but i brought it back i brought it back in a big way and it is the best the most effective it has won me all is it won me all my world titles maybe maybe we have to go back and look at it i think it might have won me maybe maybe the pedigree might have got me one but say that had to pedigree might have got me in the time Not when it got banned.
19:20Rich Eisen:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure. So either way, incredible move. Incredible finishing move. The guy who does it, Seth's Kiss. We love it. Did you say Seth's Kiss? Oh, okay. There we go. There we go. I love it. You love it. You know who else loves it? Becky Lynch.
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22:01Rich Eisen:What could you do? Like, what's the move that you could actually perform right now? Oh, man, you know what? I can kick a guy in the nuts without actually kicking him in the nuts. Yeah, I'm going to pass on that. Hold on a minute. No, it's my party trick. I guarantee I won't hurt you. So is this a... I'll take my team kickers off. Could this be sanctioned? Can she try to... Yeah. Okay. Literally. Who would volunteer for this work? Come on, you just have to spread your legs and wish for the best. Mike, Del Tufo. I mean, yes. We'll both do it. We'll both do it. Mike is about to join the ranks of the Unsullied.
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22:35Rich Eisen:Here on the... Let's do this thing. Wow. What are we about to attempt to do right here? Kick him in the nuts. Without actually hurting him. Yeah, exactly. But you will make contact. I'll make contact, yeah, absolutely. Okay, but you will not hurt him. No. Well, it doesn't matter. You have no desire to have children anyway. No, I'm good. Yeah, exactly. WWE superstar page. We'll see. Do we have the... Go ahead and hit it there, Jenny. Here we go. All right, spread them for me. Okay, ready? If I was here, I'd pull your shorts up a little bit just so I can have a bullseye. There we go. Got it. Jeez.
23:05Rich Eisen:All right, ready? This is great. We'll see if this works or not. I've only done this once before. I know. All right, Paige, how about it? Superstar Paige, here we go.
23:17Rich Eisen:That is. There we go. No contact. I just slapped him in the butt. No contact. Yeah. You're up next. That was a good slap on this. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is up next. Uh-oh. Ready? Spread them. You're the one who is making funner. So there we go.
23:37Rich Eisen:It just hurts on your butt. Are you serious? Are you serious, Chris? I'm selling it. Vince McMahon, take note! All right, fight with my family. Fight with my family. Go check it out. It was like... well done fantastic
24:05Rich Eisen:you gotta rate us how'd we do oh my god
24:13what did I just watch what did I just watch
24:17Rich Eisen:you watched Paige from 2019 kick Brockman and Del Tufo in the nether region right in the nether region She said it was her party trick It was her party trick That she could kick you in the nuts I don't even know if I can say that Yeah you can say it And it wouldn't hurt And you guys were just like let's give it a go We're like sure Let's see if she's lying It's worth it The things we do for television I tell you what For entertainment That was like a jackass skit Yeah, right? I kind of regret that, even though it didn't hurt at all. Okay. All right. Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right. All right.
25:02How'd he get that? All right. Let's bring in our next guest. He is one of the greatest fighters in the history of the UFC. He is my friend. I love him. He is a two-time champ. He is. There he is. Look at him. Look at that. Look at that smile, man. Look how happy. You make me happy just to see your face. Ladies and gentlemen, the legend, Daniel Cormier, DC. There he is, my guy, DC. What is up, man? Where are you? What are you doing right now? What's up, Seth? I see you're doing big things and sitting in Richard's seat. My guy, look at my guy leveling up out here. But guess where I'm at, Seth? Where are you at, Don?
25:43I'm at the Saints facility in New Orleans, getting the grand tour. They just gave me and my son jerseys. They're hooking us up. and, hey, I just got the whole that brand new fresh white Saints helmet. Look at this new ultimate color rush helmet. The Bears ain't got the Bears ain't got it like that. Well, we got an orange helmet, man. We got we haven't won a game with the orange helmets, but still we got an orange helmet, dog. We can do a white one. We can do a white one. Let's do a white one. The Bears ain't got it like we got it down here in New Orleans. That's slick, man. It is slick. You're getting ready for this Saturday, right?
26:18Yes, UFC 318 Poirier versus Holloway 3 for the BMF Championship live. Smoothie King Arena in New Orleans. First time we've been in New Orleans since 2015. And Dustin Poirier is retiring this weekend as he fights for the BMF Championship. So 10 years they haven't been in New Orleans. That's crazy. Yeah. That's wild. 2015, I was supposed to headline a card in New Orleans against Ryan Bader. But then I ended up fighting for the belt. I won the belt, never got a chance to fight back here. Dustin Poirier gets an opportunity to have a fairytale ending this weekend in New Orleans. Where his fight career started?
26:58Dude, that's so cool. He is one of the most respected fighters, Poirier I'm talking about, one of the most respected fighters in the game. Former champion, legendary career. It's so cool for guys to be able to kind of go out on their own terms, right? to be able to just say this is it for me to go out the way they want to go out he's fighting you know Holloway who's a guy that he's had a great history with they've had some killer fights um is it one of those situations where like win lose or draw like it's good for him like it doesn't even matter like the outcome or is he still I mean I you know do you think you still got that like I want to knock this dude out you know what I'm saying or is it just like this is it is a nice swan song for me.
27:42Put yourself in his shoes and give me that take. What do you think? So Dustin Poirier is in a situation where he got to kind of get the opportunity to come home and fight for a championship. His goals are solely to win this weekend. I asked him yesterday. I sat down with him for my YouTube channel and asked him, how do you deal with the love and respect knowing that you still have a fight to win this weekend? He goes, it's tough. He goes, because I'm not here to just get my roses. He wants to win. He wants to win. He wants to give these fans a lot to cheer about New Orleans. But he also recognizes the challenge ahead of him.
28:17Him and Max Holloway have now fought twice. Dustin won both fights. This is a trilogy, guys, that has spanned 13 years from fight one to fight three. So if there was a person that you would want to see him in there with for a third time, this is the guy. But unfortunately, it's a very difficult fight because Max Holloway is a guy that holds the BMF championship and is still one of the greatest fighters in the world with the idea that he's going to continue. So he's planning to play the spoiler. He goes, hey, I love that Dustin's getting all this respect. I respect Dustin. Unfortunately, I got to play the spoiler by coming into Louisiana and getting the job done.
28:57So hats off to Dustin, love and care for him, but he doesn't get that fairy tale that so few get in mixed martial arts. Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. That's an interesting dynamic you bring up because, yeah, Max is still in the game. Like, yeah, Dustin's going, hey, I'm out after this. I'm done, you know, but Max is still in the game. So he's got a little bit extra on his play. Like, he wants to be able to move up in the rankings. He still wants to be a champion, you know, not just a BMF. He wants the title. He wants the main title. So that's a very interesting dynamic. I'm curious to see how that plays out from a motivation standpoint.
29:30When you had your last fight, did you know it was your last fight going in? Were you prepared in that way as well? So for me, it was interesting because I was fighting for the heavyweight championship against Stipe Miocic in our third fight. Yes. I said that I was done before. Had I won, I don't know that they would have let me be done. Dana even today says that he thought I walked away so fast. I was like, boss, I was 41 years old fighting for the heavyweight title. I was done. It was like I barely got through my last training camp to get to the fight with Miocic. And you remember it was right in the heart of COVID.
30:07The world was changing. I built a gym in my garage to do my final training camp. It was it was a weird time that I retired. But I also knew that I was pretty much done physically. I think Stipe just beating me allowed for me to have the opportunity to walk away. because the one thing that um if Dana believed that I wasn't done yet they would have tried to convince me with a lot of zeros to do it again and me being a guy that come from those zeros I probably would have said yes that's fair so you and you have you have you ever you were you were at peace you were ready for it you were like this is this is it I'm good I'm out I'm gonna go be with my family and do my thing yep so i was at peace with it knowing that i was done i asked dustin yesterday i said hey how have you come to terms with it how have you dealt with it are you okay making peace with knowing that you will not be the man in the arena anymore and he gave me this thoughtful answer man he said i don't know that i have done that yet and it was very sad it was very sad because he was he he knows that he's done and his daughter wrote him this great letter dad i'm so happy you're done with fighting and he's having a son this year and i said have you come to terms and he goes i don't know that i've done that yet and i can see in his eyes it was like a little emotional because he's letting go of something that's defined him the entirety of his adult life right he's done fighting longer in his life than he hasn't yeah so for him it's gonna be you know the end of a career is like a death and i don't know that dust is taking an opportunity to process that yet dude when you said that about his daughter writing him a letter saying that she's happy i i almost got me i almost uh i i i i felt that i like i got the i got the the you know the goosebumps man i almost had a couple tears that almost got me what what happened to I'm a dad now.
32:05This happens. Yeah, that's what it is, right? We have daughters. We have daughters, and nothing means more than when your daughter tells you something special. No, man. Oh, my goodness. Wow, that's incredible. Oh, that's nuts. So, all right, all right. I got to go a different direction. I'm going to start breaking down. That's incredible. I'll be curious for him how he processes that. All right, I need a little advice from you, all right? Talk to me. As a guy who went from the arena, being the man in the arena, to now being the man behind the microphone. All right. Yes. What were the biggest adjustments for you or what was the hardest thing for you to learn going from being, you know, the guy that everyone's talking about to being the guy who's doing all the talking about everybody else?
32:49I think you do a tremendous job already. And I've had you on my podcast a number of times. And one thing you have to learn to do is deal and prepare, even though all our preparation has been physical. That's that's one of the biggest changes is knowing physical preparation as we have over the course of our entire life and applying that to this. So not only speaking of these people, using all the knowledge that you have stored and applying it to what you're talking about, but also making sure you study so much more to make sure you're prepared for the things that may change down the line and just having confidence and having fun and realizing that you're blessed.
33:31We are blessed to have the opportunity for our words to not only impact people, but to have the ability to speak of all these great athletes. I mean, these people, these athletes, you really gain an appreciation for them whenever you step outside of being the athlete. Because you know from when you were that guy what it takes to get there. And you can appreciate it as the guy that did it, watching these young athletes do what they do in their career. But like I said, man, you're doing an amazing job now. That's why you're sitting in the seat you're sitting in right now. And I expect you to get just better and better as time goes on.
34:06Oh, you're the man. You're too kind. Too kind, man. It's too kind. You know what? One thing I wanted to ask you about. I popped on your social media. I follow you on Instagram, so I just saw. You're working with my boy, my boy, Jason Kalipa. Oh, yeah. You know Jason? I know Jason. I love Jason. Jason has been a huge friend of mine for years because, well, because I, uh, I was big into CrossFit for years. I was like, I loved it. It was like my primary training modality. And Jason was a huge star in the CrossFit world. Uh, you know, maybe 10, 15 years ago. Um, and he, he still, he obviously he's still doing stuff with this.
34:45And what, what are you doing with Jason? What, what is going on there? I thought you were going to talk about my stolen truck. Oh no, Your truck got stolen? Bro, I went to call UFC 317, and when I got back to the airport, I'm walking up and down, and I'm like, I know I parked my truck right here. I just kept looking and looking and looking, and finally I walk up to the exit, the gate, and I press the button, and I said, hey. They go, yes, can we help you? I go, I can't find my truck. I was like, it's gone. And then they finally, it was, guys, it was a brand-new truck, four days old. And I finally, I told them, I said, they said, what's your event?
35:21I go, I have no idea. It's a brand new truck. And finally, they caught me coming in to the airport, got the van. And they go, well, your truck left on Thursday night. And I was like, well, I was in Vegas on Thursday. So somebody stole my truck. Oh, no. But yes. Yeah, they stole my truck, man. It was crazy. But to Jason, I'm sorry. To Jason. Okay, to Jason. What are you doing with Jason? What's going on there? Yes. 45 days for me to start working and doing stuff again physically. because my whole life has been a coach telling me, go work out, train, get better, following goals my whole life. So Seth, while the goals became working in broadcasting, I wouldn't train or do anything.
36:02For the first time in my life, since I was 15, I had a coach, I made my first United States world team in that age level. I've always had someone pushing me to train and I always had goals that were so big. But when I didn't have them, I just sat around and started playing golf. so i started gaining weight i'm living life man and i was like you know what i gotta start doing something more active right because my son's uh gonna be in eighth grade next year he goes to high school in two years i want to be able to wrestle with him i want to be able to do things with him to try to help him along the way with his journey so like jason reaches out we start talking he starts giving me a plan on how to work out for 45 days to rebuild the consistency that i had in my life once where working out was just what i did yeah and so we're in day 17 now It's really good.
36:48I've lost some weight. I've been training. But I'm telling you, CrossFit guys are out of your mind with some of the stuff that you do. This dude is destroying me, bro. Yeah, dude. Jason's a wild man. He's a wild man. I love him. He's a good dude. That's great. I'm glad you're reprioritizing your physical health. That's a good thing. It's so easy. It's so easy to just take your foot off the gas pedal and eat pizza every night and cookies. You know what I'm saying? Yes, it is. Yes, it is. What a life, you know? What a life. All right, I got one last question for you. I want to ask this, and I thought about this.
37:24What do you think made you a champion? What set you apart? There are a lot of elite-level competitors in the world, in your world, in my world, in all of sports. There are very few champions, guys that are just at a different level. what do you think it is that set you apart from the elite that made you like the best of the best what what was it that did that for you so i think when i i realized that i was a little different when after high school and college i made the olympic team and there are only seven wrestlers in the whole country that got to go represent the country those seven guys have a different mentality.
38:10So a lot of the things that made me great in real life aren't the best qualities. You got to be selfish, unbelievably selfish, because you got to prioritize those goals to are in order to reach them. And you got to have this undying belief in self and the willingness to work to go accomplish all those goals that you believe are out there. Right. So I had to be selfish at times and as you get out of out of that life you got to realize that you got a lot of making up to do for all the times that you were selfish and then you got to work as hard as anyone man it people say it's cliche to say hard work and all this but it works you know hard work actually just works if you work hard most times you're successful it doesn't make you the best in the world no but it gives you an opportunity to be the best in the world so um and i was a bit lucky but you're only you're only lucky whenever preparation meets an opportunity so a little bit of luck some hard work and a real belief that i could be the best like i never doubted that i could be the best so i just kept working at it working at it working at it one day uh you're standing in the middle of an octagon uh with a belt uh wrapped around your waist by dana white and uh you're a world champion and if you don't get there at least you'll give yourself an opportunity to dream, right?
39:32Everybody should get a chance to dream, but you can't dream and hope that that dream becomes a reality if you don't really apply yourself to that dream and live for that dream. I love it. I love it. I love the mindset of elite champions, man. It fascinates me. Fascinates me. All right. All right. So we got the show this Saturday, UFC. What number? I've lost track of the number. 318. So yeah, we do them all the time. There are so many. 318. I even asked that. 318, Dustin Poirier's final fight for the BMF title. Five-round main event against Max Holloway. The trilogy, you said 13 years. 13 years to make it.
40:12It's going to be a hell of a fight. I know I'm going to tune in to watch it. Do you got any predictions? What's your prediction? You know what's the beauty in my job as a commentator? I can't predict fights. So it keeps me on the good side of a lot of fighters because when I did not pick, everybody was mad at me. So I just can predict that it's going to be a barn burner down in the Bayou. You know it. I'm excited for it, man. Good luck with that. Thank you for stopping by. Good luck. If you talk to Jason before I do, tell him I said hello. Here he is, man. DC. I can't believe we did this on the – I got to interview you for the first time ever, man.
40:46So thank you for coming on and being a part of it. We appreciate it, man. Thank you. You're the man, Seth. You're the man. You are. Later, guys. Double champ. Double champ. DC, man. I love it. God, he rocks, dude. He's interviewed me so many times. You know what? God, now that he's gone, I missed out on talking about WrestleMania. And him missing the cash show. He's gone.
41:08Rich Eisen:Every now and then they hang out for a second. Son of a bitch. God. That's all right. I had too many other things. Well, there'll be another time. We'll get him again. We'll get him again. Next time you come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next time when I take the show over and Rich never comes back. Well, you know what? You guys are not commentating the fight this weekend, so you can make predictions. Do we have predictions? Holloway, Poirier, three. What do we think? What are we feeling? That's good to Jay because you've actually worked with DC. Jay Feller, what do you got? I think Holloway. Ooh, you think Holloway.
41:45What do you think? Because he said Poirier's got 2-0 on him. Yeah, he's just got this fight-or-die attitude, and I think he's just going to keep swinging until he connects. I think he's going to take this one. Holloway's slight favorite. Slight favorite? Minus 140, DP plus 110. Oh, that's very close. Yeah, very, very close. That's why you just pick them pretty much.
42:04Rich Eisen:It's close, and I probably would have been swayed to pick Max, but then after hearing that and the daughter might put Dustin in a different mindset. So, you know what? I'll go against the grain. I'll take Dustin Poirier. Yeah, I'll break the tie. I'll take Dustin, too. You'll take Dustin? I'm going to take Max, and I think the reason is, I think the reason is that what DC mentioned about, like, Max is still in the game. Yeah. You know, he's just got more, like, he's got more at stake here. Like, he loses. He falls down the rankings. It's a whole ordeal, you know. That's true. Good point. That's how I feel about it.
42:37I think, you know, you got more at stake. You're going to fight a little bit harder. Whereas, you know, even if it's not, you're not cognizant of it, Dustin might just take his foot off gas just a little tiny bit, you know.
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43:26Rich Eisen:They attack it head on with confidence, preparation, and a clear strategy. KPMG LLP and their transformation professionals work with organizations across industries using their advanced AI to help them move faster, work smarter, and adapt with purpose. Because in today's business environment, winning teams don't react to change, they shape it. Learn more at visit.kpmg.us slash velocity. So I've got three scenarios here. Okay. Okay. One for each version, if you don't mind. Okay. For you, Titus Weller, to give me your young Pacino. Okay. Talking about your favorite New England delicacy. Okay. So you've grown up in the New England area.
44:09Rich Eisen:There's different types of... Oh, there's Panacanita Park. Yeah. That's it, right there. That was very early. I have to say, you know, Rich, the thing for me is there used to be a restaurant. on Boylston Street, and I was doing theater in Boston. And I would go there, and they had the freshest cherry stone clams you ever had, and a clam chowder. A clam chowder would knock your teeth. Ladies and gentlemen. Fantastic. How do you smell it? I bet you Al Pacino has never eaten clam chowder. I don't eat that in New England. I eat that Manhattan clam chowder. all right next up is the serpico uh godfather dog day afternoon i guess is it would you say that that sort of yeah yeah that's the that's the uh the higher the higher tones okay um if you if you will um the the long-standing argument for uh patriots fans over the last 20 years is who's more responsible for the dynasty brady or bill belichick i gotta tell you rich you You know, the thing for me, you know, here's the problem.
45:19You know, Tom Brady, he's a great, he's a great ball player.
45:24Rich Eisen:He's a fantastic athlete, right? And you gotta love him. And Bill Belichick, right? I mean, he's sort of like a, he's a sphinx, you know? He's got two expressions, right? That's silence and anger. And I admire that as an actor. But Tom Brady, I think, right, you know, he's the guy, he's out there, he's doing it. But he's also got a supermodel at home. I mean, who can't do well if you're married to Giselle, right? So I think it's sort of a, you know, it's a combination of the two. But, you know, I think if I could do an impression of Giselle, I would give her all the credit.
46:00A very nuanced take by the British Alcantara.
46:04Rich Eisen:Very nuanced. Not one way or the other. Take it right down the middle. I appreciate that. Okay. And the last one for you, Titus Welliver, is the 90s era, I guess. Al Pacino, the scent of a woman, Pacino, reacting to the news that Tom Brady has signed a$375 million contract to become a broadcaster. I got to tell you, Rich, you know, talking about it, here's a guy, right, who has dedicated his life to playing football. Now he's going to go, he's going to sit in a chair and wear an ugly sport coat. I think, you know, I don't know. Maybe he lost money at the market. Maybe he needs the money. But for me, it's kind of preposterous.
46:49Rich Eisen:I mean, athletes, it's a natural trajectory. When you leave, you're going to do commentary. But what's Tom Brady going to talk about? Mouthwash or cologne? But he's got that supermodel wife, right? So that's always sort of... The caveat of that is he's married to her. You should keep him on a straight and narrow. You know, maybe she maxed out the plastic and he needs the money. It's a pretty big contract, though, right? Scent of a woman now? It's a pretty... Ooh, that's a big contract. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of cologne, baby. Tiny 12, baby. Well done. That's great. It's impressive.
47:28Rich Eisen:Give the monkey a banana. It's not coming.
47:40Ah, the time has come, guys. Oh, man. I know. We're almost to the end. It's making me sad. Yeah, me too. I don't want to say goodbye. Can we just do six hours today, you know, and stay on? I'm free this afternoon. I would need to eat and pee, likely, if we were going to do that. There's a bathroom in the back. All right, yeah. We'll figure it out. But, no, look, I feel like— It took you, like, 15 minutes to walk there yesterday. It would. But it would take me a while to crutch on over there. So, yeah, I guess this is it. This is it for now. For now. It's not goodbye. See you later. But I think we should take some calls.
48:19We've got so many people on hold. Finish up with calls. I see these hold times, and I'm like, okay. So, yeah, let's take a couple calls, and let's see what we can do. You got the list? Why don't you pick? You can see it or what? I can see the list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You decide. Me? Okay. Well, then I would go by who's been holding the longest, which looks like this Selena. Yeah. Let's get her on the line. See what we got here. Hi, Selena. Hey, how are you? Good. How are you?
48:49Rich Eisen:Great. We got Seth there? I am here. I am talking to you live in the flesh. What can I do for you? Oh, well, of course I am your number one fan. I love you. I watch you when I can. I was just wondering, what do you think about Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers? Oh, well, you know, I put them in my top ten yesterday. I did put them there. I think they're going to be a good team. I think, you know, everybody thinks it's going to be a big combustion there in Pittsburgh. That Aaron Rodgers is a bit of a cancer to the team environment. I didn't say that. Brockman might have said that. We'll see what happens.
49:31But I think it's going to turn out well. They always play well. Tomlin gets it together. I think they're going to make a run for that division. Things are going to be very, very difficult. I think they're still the third best team in that division, but they will push Baltimore and Cincinnati. I think it's going to be a nice final year for my arch nemesis, Aaron Rodgers. So thank you. I appreciate it.
49:54Rich Eisen:Yeah, no problem. It's great to talk to you. I'm so happy. I was waiting on the whole program. I know you were, and I got you on, man. I'm a man of the people. Well, thank you so much, Selena. Thank you. You have a good day. We're going to see if we can get somebody else in here real quick. What do you got? What do we got? The next one is Vegas, Alex. Alex. Yeah. Get Alex on. Alex. Hello. Hey, Seth. What's up? How are you? Pretty good. How have you been? We are wonderful. We are wonderful. What can we do for you? So, I just wanted to say really quickly that you've been providing entertainment for my family for well over a decade now and we wanted to thank you for that.
50:34Oh, God. Has it been that long?
50:38Rich Eisen:Yeah. No. All right. All right. And that's what switches to you and your recovery through and Becky on her current title run. And our question was about Bray Wyatt. he meant a lot to our family and we wanted to ask if you could speak on your relationship with him and do you think you'll eventually share the ring with the Wyatt Six yeah you know Winnemar Tunda passed away a couple years ago better known as Bray Wyatt to WWE fans he was a good friend of mine someone that I love that I keep in my heart pretty much every single time I go to the ring. I see the fans when they hold up the phones, the flashlights, the fireflies.
51:29It's one of those guys who will live forever. I don't know if I'll ever be in there with the Y6. Those guys are scary, I will say. But, yeah, Wyndham's one of the greatest. I think about him all the time. Love his family, wife, kids, the whole thing. So, great question. Great way to end it up. Bray Wyatt, baby. One last thing before you go.
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ESPN’s Daniel Cormier and Seth discuss UFC 318 that will feature the final fight of Justin Poirier’s storied MMA career, his transition from champion fighter to working in the media, and more.
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