Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer

15:18Rich Eisen:Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen show. Speaking of fuzzy Ohio State math, what is Terry McLaurin asking for that best you can tell that might be holding this up? or is it the commanders not wanting to meet potentially a demand to put him in the mix with DK and Ayuk and that range? What's going on here?

15:41Albert Breer:The guarantee structure is the main thing, and I think that it's— Well, then that'll get hammered out, right? I think so. I think so. I mean, the command—I don't think Terry wants to— my discussions with Terry over the last couple of years, I know how much pride he takes and what they were able to accomplish there. Heck yeah. In large part because of what he got through to get there. You know, and what he had to go, and going through the ownership change. Sweat equity, man. All this stuff, like, I mean, I know he took a ton of pride in the fact that, like, I'm the one who stuck it out. I was here since 2019.

16:16Albert Breer:I saw it from Jay Gruden to Ron Rivera to Dan Quinn. I saw the ownership change. And I was the one who, I was sort of the bellwether through the storm. And so I think he's motivated to stay there. I think he wants to stay there. I think the commanders, if you ask Dan Quinn, Dan Quinn will tell you, hell yeah, that's the guy I want in my team. Of course. They've also become more data-driven under new ownership, which I think is part of the equation here where it's like, okay, so this is this age of receiver. This is what happens with this type of receiver. and there's that sort of stuff that I think seeps in now.

16:53Albert Breer:I would argue

16:53Rich Eisen:Where do the Derrick Henry's land on that scale? I know. There are outliers. Derrick Henry is on a cheap deal. I'm just pointing out what I'm assuming you're driving at here. Well, he turns 30 in the middle of September and so if we sign him to a deal where he's making DK Metcalf money. We're going to regret this in 2027. Who the hell cares? You've got Jaden Daniels right now who needs him and you need Gene Daniels to keep going this way. And I don't care how many McCaffreys they can say is coming on strong, like apparently Luke is there. But, I mean, what are we talking about? This is Terry McLaurin.

17:33Rich Eisen:We saw what he did last year.

17:34Albert Breer:Yeah, and here's the other thing that I point out on that. Like, the type of receiver he is, like we all saw Larry Fitzgerald reinvent himself, right? Larry Fitzgerald played to what, 36, 37? He didn't want to go in the slot at all. Right, and he reinvented himself as a football player. You look at Terry McLaurin, is he overly reliant on his physical ability? No. He's a great athlete, but he's a craftsman. He's not the type of receiver who, when he loses his step, he's going to fall off a cliff. So even if he is 90 % of what he is now in two years, because of the person he is, because of the leader he is, I have a hard time seeing a scenario where if the commander signed him to the DK Metcalf deal, which is the comp here that his side has tried to use, I have a really hard time seeing where the commanders are going to regret doing it.

18:26Albert Breer:You know what I mean? Like that's the way I've started to look at some of these deals for older players. It's like, okay, are the Steelers going to regret in two years that they paid TJ Watt? Probably not.

18:36Rich Eisen:Does it matter if you've got Aaron Rodgers, you're putting all your eggs in a 41, soon to be 42-year-old quarterback basket, You've got to do it now. What T.J. Watt means to the franchise in the city. Right. You have to. And kudos to the Steelers for not dragging it out, making them hold in, making Rodgers and Cam Hayward and Mike Tomlin answer questions about why isn't Watt signed.

19:03Albert Breer:You don't do it. Just go ahead and make the deal. And, you know, on Terry, I think there is.

19:09Rich Eisen:It's easy for me to say.

19:10Albert Breer:I think there's that element with Terry. and I think Josh Harris and Adam Peters and Dan Quinn have done a phenomenal job. They know what they're doing. There's no question, but I think on Terry's side, there's a little bit of like a, what the hell else do I have to do? Yeah, right. I'm not asking for Justin Jefferson's deal. What else do I have to do? And I think it gets done. I think cooler heads will wind up prevailing, but you can see his frustration in the way that he's, I mean, it's interesting if you really look at it. First, it was a holdout. Then it was a hold in. And now it's a trade request.

19:44Albert Breer:So you can see where he's like, I just want to get back out there. What do we need to do? What lever do I need to pull to get this done?

19:51Rich Eisen:I wish I knew for his sake. Because just real quick, best Ohio State receiver since Chris Carter? The best one?

20:02Albert Breer:Michael Thomas was pretty good. Okay. Michael Thomas, I think he had the catch's record, right? Doesn't McLaurin have more longevity than him right now? Since Chris Carter. I mean, you know what we got? You know who might be the best one in short sample size was Terry Glenn. Terry Glenn was phenomenal. Terry Glenn was really good. Yeah, Terry Glenn, to me, was the one. He's trying to name it. But he just didn't have the longevity because he had all the injuries.

20:26Rich Eisen:And I know they're different ages. Isn't it kind of crazy? Garrett Wilson's contract might be messing with the McLaurin conversation. I know. It is. But they're different ages. I understand why. They're different ages and everything else.

20:35Albert Breer:I think DK Metcalf's the comp because DK is two years younger. Right. Because McLaurin was a five-year college guy. Metcalf was a three-year college guy. But to me, I look at the two receivers, I'm like, I actually think Terry might age better too, just because of the type of receiver he is than DK. Because DK is reliant on his physical ability.

20:55Rich Eisen:Well, DK's next quarterback might be next year, and Terry McLaurin stays put. He's attached to the hip of some kid that's on a launching pad and going nowhere. Right. I just don't even know. Can Terry McLaurin say at some point, you know, like, you pay people for past performances. How about the fact I said nothing with Dan Snyder? I don't know if that means anything with the current ownership structure, but, I mean, that's got to count for something. Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen Show, 844-204-RICH, number to dial. Other training camps that you hit on, I want to hit on that. Last time we spoke with you, we were at the Browns.

21:31Rich Eisen:So there's lots to talk about with Albert Breer. 844-204-RICH is the number to dial. Mr. MMQB from Sports Illustrated is here. We're back with more on this Tuesday show.

21:45Rich Eisen:Rich Eisen here with some advice. If high interest credit card debt is grinding you down, it might be time to call an audible with a SoFi personal loan. It consolidates your debt into one low monthly payment with no fees required. And with as soon as the same day funding, you can make the right play fast. Call an audible on your debt today at SoFi.com slash debt play. Loans originated by SoFi Bank N.A. Member FDIC. Terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891. Fast funds terms apply at SoFi.com slash debt play. Rich Eisen here. Running a small business means every hire matters. A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow.

22:23Rich Eisen:The challenge? Finding that person without sorting through resumes. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent. With Hiring Pro, you can hire with confidence and build the team you need. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eisen. Terms and conditions apply. Rich Eisen here. We talk a lot about battles in sports. Teams battling through adversity. Athletes fighting for every yard. The toughest warriors I've ever seen, though, aren't on the field.

22:55Rich Eisen:They're kids fighting cancer. They're families standing beside them. Doctors, nurses, caregivers. That's why I'm proud to support Hyundai Hope on Wheels. For over 28 years, they've helped fund pediatric cancer research, raising more than$303 million and supporting over 40 ,000 children. Learn more and donate at HyundaiUSA.com backslash hope on wheels. Last time, Albert Breer, you were on this program. You were with the Cleveland Browns way back when they only had four quarterbacks. Why are we adding six? We're now five and six. What's happening?

23:26Albert Breer:What's going on? Well, the guys are hurt. Oh, okay. So pickets. But pickets back. and he dealt with the hamstring. Shadour was nicked up. I think Dylan was dealing with something. Right. I mean, like, Snoop Huntley's there, I think, as just an arm for right now.

23:45Rich Eisen:And the 40-year-old Flacco, he's the guy, right? I think so, yeah.

23:49Albert Breer:I mean, I think they're in a weird transition spot where I think Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski were really honest with themselves about where they are and that maybe that window of the group that they made the playoffs with twice over the last five years is up. And I think that sort of informs the trade of the second overall pick where they felt like we need to get younger and we need volume of young players. Like Travis Hunter's great, and they would have taken him if they had sat there too. But we really just need volume. And part of it was the loss of the draft picks and the Deshaun Watson trade.

24:25Albert Breer:And so they've got these older players and Miles Garrett and Joel Batonio and Denzel Ward, but on the other end, they're trying to get younger. They're trying to balance their roster out. I think that's sort of why they're kind of in that weird spot at quarterback where it's like, we'll make it work this year. I think the one thing that people don't pay attention to, because I know there's been a lot of noise in Cleveland about playing the rookies and why would you even bother with the older guys, is for a team in transition, you have to give, and you know this, Rich, you have to give the locker room the best chance.

24:54Albert Breer:There are 10 other guys in that huddle trying to make a living that have careers where you can't just turn it into an experiment with rookies out there. So I think Joe probably gives them the best answer. I think the two veterans are still ahead of the two rookies. Is Shadorn making the team? I think he'll make the team. But when he got there, he was way behind. And he's made up some ground. But I think part of it, like his ability to operate the offense is part of what he needs. He needs to take that to a higher level to get first-team reps. because if you're a football team, and this is the simplest thing in the world, if you're a football team looking to get ready for the season and you've got veteran players, again, like your Joel Batonios or your Jerry Judys in that huddle that are trying to prepare for a season, you can't fiddle around with a young quarterback who can't operate the offense.

25:42Rich Eisen:Are you saying like calling the plays in the huddle? Yeah, stuff like that.

25:47Albert Breer:The operational stuff is the stuff he was behind on that he had to catch up on. And look, by all accounts, he's worked really hard at that, but there was a lot of ground for him to make up. And Dylan Gabriel because he played at three different colleges. He was in college for six years at Oregon and UCF and Oklahoma. Was just way ahead of him when they came in, which is why Gabriel's gotten the first team reps and Shadour hasn't.

26:12Rich Eisen:Okay, let's move on to some other stops for you. The number of times guys, and you can back me up on this, that we have asked folks from our business about the team that other people are talking about and the team that is ready to take a big lead. The Denver Broncos. Every single person says the Broncos. It's been remarkable. We don't even bring it up. It popped in my head. You were about to say that too, right?

26:42Albert Breer:Why? The number one defense in the league last year. They add Drake Greenlaw and Talanoa Hafunga from the Niners. two of the night the Niners did not want to lose those guys the reality is the salary cap are the reason they lost those guys right um and then I think Bo Nix is a lot better than people think and I I had a people can read it I I had a like unbelievable conversation with Sean Payton on Saturday about identifying quarterbacks and what he thinks people do wrong and you know I remember talking to the Broncos a year ago and this is not with the benefit of having seen how the season played out.

27:24Albert Breer:I was told last summer the Broncos top two quarterbacks in last year's quarterback class were Bo Nix and Jaden Daniels. That's again without the benefit of knowing how the season's going to play out. And so I had a good conversation with Sean about ID and quarterbacks. And he gave me all these different numbers that they look at that are a little bit different and then he said, and the biggest stat we look at was Saks. Saks is a quarterback stat. And he said like when you see a high sack number what do you do you blame the line it's like it's not the line's fault it's like in most cases it's not it's the quarterback's fault and you know we he dove into like how bo nix was like had historically not low sack numbers jayden daniels had very low sack numbers at lsu he's like it can it informs you on his ability to process his ability to see the field his instincts his ability to move and then get the ball out on time it tests all of those at once and he had some one of his guys one of his analytics guys go back and do a study over the last 30 years right said can you find a college quarterback who was sacked a lot who then went to the pros and wasn't sacked very much in the pros and they couldn't find one so like there's just this stuff with Bo where Sean thinks everybody missed the boat on him and I think they think and this is me talking I think they think he's got a chance to be a top five quarterback and if you're injecting a top five quarterback yeah and let's just say like i know that i saw your face no i meant this year that was gonna be my follow-up this year but like soon okay sure and like if he can be that guy right like because that's just for me hearing the way that people in that building are talking about i'm not just sean if you add that to like a defense that's playing at that level and i don't think we give bo enough credit for how he played last year because he did not have like Tyreek Hill when Patrick Mahomes was young, Steph Diggs when Josh Allen was young.

29:16Albert Breer:He did not have like a superstar. Terry McLaurin when Jaden Daniels was there last year. We don't give, for one reason or another, I don't think we give him enough credit for how well he played last year, especially when you consider it was like a good, not great offense around him. So I just look at the combination of things there. The division is very difficult, and that's the X factor. And I think there's a chance that the top three teams in that division cannibalize each other. and maybe that costs you a home playoff game if you're Denver and maybe that costs you in the long run. But I think they're going to be a very good team.

29:46Rich Eisen:And it really is amazing that at this point last year, we're wondering about Bo Nix. And then after dead capping Russell Wilson like that, you're like, well, they're cooked. They're cooked because you also want to win playoff games or go to the playoffs or go on a Super Bowl run in the first iteration of a contract. And boy, that ship's going to sail with Bo Nix because if you add what Russell was costing to this, then they're clearly going to be capped out. And instead, look at what George Payton's put together for Sean Payton and Bo Nix is doing what he's doing, and they signed Courtland Sutton, and they draft very well.

30:23Rich Eisen:Right, you know what I mean? And it's beyond impressive, man. And Sean Payton flat out said we can win the Super Bowl this year. I mean, he's talking about him. And everybody keeps mentioning them, which obviously would scare me off when everybody believes the same. It's so rare that it's true or that it can come to fruition. I would just say this.

30:48Albert Breer:They're like, when you go around and you can sort of tell the way teams, you do this for long enough, you can kind of tell when a team is very confident with where they're at. And I would say the two teams that really stuck out in that regard for me over the last two weeks that maybe people wouldn't expect as much of the Broncos and the Rams. I think those two teams are very, very confident where they're at.

31:16Rich Eisen:What a Super Bowl that would be, by the way. Sean versus Sean. Sean versus the Shons going at it. I mean, that would have been there in San Francisco. Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen Show. When you think Seahawks and Raiders, you think what? Bo Jackson running over the Boz and going up back in the kingdom.

31:34Albert Breer:It's a Monday night game, I think, right?

31:36Rich Eisen:But we're now, these two are attached right now, obviously. Pete Carroll's now in Vegas with the Raiders. Geno Smith with him. Sam Donald up in Seattle. You stopped in those two spots. Give me your impressions about your takeaways in those two places.

31:52Albert Breer:So Seattle is interesting because I do think there's still some marks of the Pete Carroll era there, but it's really become Mike McDonald's team. Right. And I think bringing in guys like Cooper Cupp and DeMarcus Lawrence from Dallas and then obviously Sam Darnold. I think only further makes it his team. He's kind of bringing in his own leaders. And those guys haven't played for him, but those guys are not Pete Carroll guys. In his image. Yeah. So I think when I look at the Seahawks, I see a team. I had a couple conversations with people in Green Bay, and I think the Packers and Seahawks are in a similar spot where they've drafted really well the last couple of years.

32:31Albert Breer:Yes. And they've got a bunch of good players. And the question now becomes, can those good players become great players? And so, you know, in Green Bay, it's the young receivers, Wicks and Reed and, you know, Matthew Golden, who they draft in the first round. You know, what happens at left tackle there? What happens with the four first round picks on the defensive line, you know, with Rashawn Gary and Lucas Van Ness and Devontae Wyatt? And, you know, obviously, Kenny Clark's been a great pro for them. And Seattle is the same thing. Seattle it's like Jackson Smith and Jake Bud Devin Witherspoon, Charles Cross Kenneth Walker Boye Maffe like they've got a lot of really good young players and now those guys are on the verge of getting paid can those guys become great players like to me I look at Seattle I see like that's a 9-10 win team but if those guys can elevate could it become a little bit more I think that's where Seattle is and yeah and then the Raiders I'm excited to see what that looks like.

33:29Albert Breer:Me too. Because I think, I mean, first of all, we should all be moving around like Pete Carroll is when we're 73 years old.

33:37Rich Eisen:He hates the number, though. He doesn't want to be. He doesn't want to hear it. He does not wish to be judged by this number. He does not want to be termed as the oldest guy in the league, you know, at the position. He just doesn't. And again, because he does relate to young folks in a way, it's not like he's playing golden oldies, you know, in a locker room where everyone wants to listen to hip-hop. He does relate. You wouldn't talk about a deep end of the pool, the AFC West. I mean, they are kind of like the hanging Chad when everybody mentions the three teams that did make the playoffs last year.

34:13Albert Breer:I think they're going to be the team that's a pain in the ass to play at the end of the year. I think if you're a contender, and I don't know how their schedule sets up, but if you're one of those teams in that division, like and you're a coach, it's going to make you uncomfortable to see them. It's like, oh, crap. You know, like now, you know, our guys, the record might not be great, but our guys could take their eye off the ball here and the Raiders could pop us.

34:38Rich Eisen:Yeah, they do finish with the Chiefs. And they play the Chargers here in L.A. the last Sunday of November, then the Broncos at home. And the Eagles, Texans, and the Giants. Those are the last six opponents right there. So those are the ones that you think will be a pain for them,

34:59Albert Breer:a pain to play against them. I think Ashton Gentry is like, I'd put money on him to win rookie of the year. Like I think it's, I don't bet and I'm not allowed to bet, but like, I look at him as someone who, what I, what I hear from his coaches is the part that's the hardest for the running back to pick up, which like a lot of these guys, because there's such big stars in college, aren't asked to pass protect very much. And a lot of cases don't catch the ball a ton. Like, that was the question with Ashton Gentile, and he's picked that up seamlessly. So I think Ashton Gentile is going to have a massive year.

35:34Albert Breer:They have a very unique young weapon in Brock Bowers, but they have holes in the roster.

35:38Rich Eisen:What is Brady's role there? I mean, were you there the day when he showed up in the silver and black? Yeah. Did you see that? Yeah.

35:45Albert Breer:I did. Was it jarring for you, Chris?

35:47Rich Eisen:No. No, I think it's fine. He played with a different team. So seeing him with different colors is fine. And by the way, Super Bowl. I know. Of course. Got it.

35:57Albert Breer:So you were there that day. I would say Brady's impact on that place is, A, it's going to help keep Mark Davis at bay a little bit. And we've all heard the stories. They have big money ownership there now. And I do think to some degree, the stories you heard, like I remember hearing a story of Josh McDaniels getting screamed at after they won a game, right? like in the coach's office in a visiting stadium. I think they were playing Green Bay. So that part of it, I think it at least kind of keeps that at bay a little bit. I think it's obviously in his ability to attract other big money guys. Not a lot of people talk about this, but they brought in Egan Durbin and Mike Meldman and Tom Wagner, his business partner, and those are huge money guys, right?

36:43Albert Breer:Which is part of why they go pay$6 million to get Chip Kelly out of Ohio State. right like i think part of that was symbolic was like this is not the same raiders organization and i've got a ton of stories from the coaching search where it was like we're not the same team anymore so there's that impact but if you're talking about on the field with brady in particular okay i think the impact is the type of player they're bringing in i think the guys in that organization pete carroll the new general manager john spitek are in lockstep with him anyway but i think that there's a certain type of player that tom wants in the building and i think those guys know like we're gonna have when we go to talk to tom about who we're acquiring who we're drafting who we're signing who we're trading for we want to be able to tell him this is your type of guy and that means a guy who loves football i think the the overarching term is football character tough loves football all about the team like all that stuff is now going to become paramount and i think you know even if he's not in there every day and he's very sensitive about that like like Like, the story I heard, he helped with their quarterback evaluation, right?

37:50Albert Breer:Like, because obviously, who wouldn't want Tom Brady to be involved in that, right? You would welcome his input, yes, sir. Who wouldn't want him involved? So he flew in, like, incognito for a day to sit down with the front office and the coaches to go through quarterbacks and look at quarterbacks on tape and left. And no one knew about it. And my understanding is the reason why is because he knows if he shows up, he takes all the oxygen out of the room. So he knows if he shows up, well, there's Tom. He doesn't want the perception out there that he's – because he's going to let those guys do their job.

38:26Albert Breer:You know what I mean? He doesn't want the perception out there that he's lording over everything. But he certainly has an influence on the types of players they're bringing in.

38:33Rich Eisen:How does Brady fly in incognito? I know Vegas, what happens there stays there.

38:37Albert Breer:Do you have his tail number? I don't know.

38:40Rich Eisen:I haven't forbid he puts Buckeye colors on his plane. That can't be Brady.

38:45Albert Breer:My guess is he didn't take the 7 o 'clock on Delta. I don't think.

38:53Rich Eisen:Flying middle seat in the back. He would stick out there, too. Do you have one more segment for me? Yes, sir. Great. Let's finish the hour with Albert Breer here on the Rich Eisen Show. There's so much more to discuss. My God. O 'Reilly Auto Parts gets you back to savings. Buy five quarts of Syntec full synthetic motor oil and get a free micro guard select oil filter. Limits apply. Save 20 % on a micro guard or micro guard select engine air filter when purchased with this Syntec special.

39:21Albert Breer:As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back. From professional grade products you can count on to fast, dependable delivery, they're there to help you keep things running smoothly. Plus, their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions. And because Grainger knows safety is always a priority, they're committed to being your partner in protecting both your people and your facilities. Call 1-800-GRAINGER, clickgrainger.com, or just stop by. I'm sort of excited, like, okay, like, what is Chip going to pull out on everybody that week one?

39:57Albert Breer:Now, maybe it doesn't, like, sustain, we'll see, but, like, I think he's going to have something exciting week one, so you have a lot of those sort of things.

40:03Rich Eisen:If I'm not mistaken, by the Albert Breer here on the Rich Eyes Show, Chip has a New England connection, right? New Hampshire, wasn't that his? Yeah.

40:09Albert Breer:Yep.

40:09Rich Eisen:Yep.

40:10Albert Breer:This is...

40:10Rich Eisen:Yep. But of course, the Jets and the Steelers being put on the same field together in week one with Rodgers being back in my life. And the quarterback switch, right? That's awesome. I can't wait for that. Yeah. Lions, Packers, Niners, Seahawks. Come on, man. You know, Bengals, Browns, Bucs and Falcons right off the bat right there. Texans-Rams is really good, too.

40:40Albert Breer:I think the Texans have a chance. What do you mean by that? I think CJ got unfairly beat up for last year to some degree. Well, he came through. I mean, he won a playoff game. I know, and that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Everybody talks about him like he had a horrible year. They were against the Chiefs and Arrowhead in the divisional round. like into the fourth quarter. You know what I mean? Like, so like, and I, I think their defense is going to be filthy. Like, I think their defense is going to be off the charts. Good. And to have pieces like Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter and Derek Stingley, and then offensively, I think it's all there except for the line.

41:19Albert Breer:And so like, can they stabilize the offensive line to me? Like that's one of the biggest swing factors any team has in the entire league. Cause I think if they,

41:28Rich Eisen:isn't mixing hurt though,

41:29Albert Breer:like this is hurt. They have Chubb there. Damian Pierce, we'll see. He's still there. They've got some guys there. I think they'll be able to manage that. I think their new offensive coordinator, who was here last year, is a star in the making in Nick Cayley. I think he's going to fix a lot of what was wrong with their offense last year. Again, I think so much of it comes down to that tackle situation, and specifically the situation at tackle. Can they fix the tackle situation? They signed a bunch of different guys. Trent Brown's there now, Cam Robinson. They draft the kid out of Minnesota in the second round.

42:04Albert Breer:Can they find two valuable answers to tackle? If they can, I think they've got a chance to elevate, too. And seeing them against the Rams in Week 1 will be great. Where are you watching Texas-Ohio State on Labor Day weekend? Are you going? Are you going to be there? I think we are looking at the idea of going. That might be Mike. Looking at the idea? That might be Mike. Are you probable, questionable?

42:27Rich Eisen:What is this, an injury report? I would say I'm probable.

42:34Albert Breer:I don't know for sure yet, but it might wind up being my kid's first game in that stadium. Oh, okay. And yeah, so we're going to have, it's Lee Corso's last game.

42:45Rich Eisen:Okay.

42:46Albert Breer:Right? Lee Corso's last game.

42:47Rich Eisen:Okay, fine. But I mean, this is it, brother. I heard you talking about Urban before, which. I mean, he's going to play straight down the middle, as he always does. Like he does an hour, right? When he's at the. Yep, pretty much.

42:58Albert Breer:he still doesn't yeah i don't know do people notice like people notice he still doesn't say the word michigan whatever it's so childish i don't know people notice that like he calls

43:07Rich Eisen:him the wolverines urban urban that was his way around i worked the draft with urban okay he he had me on ice for the first day okay and then we warmed up with each other and as a matter of fact he he kindly um called into the program michigan ohio state week once yeah he did yeah but you

43:27Albert Breer:know i understand it's going to be a wild atmosphere there i mean arch the arch conversation to me is is what you know i see all these stuff all this stuff about like this team's lining itself up and that team's lining itself up together does anyone think he's declaring i don't think so if

43:44Rich Eisen:the saints have the number one pick he gone hold on a second let me just put it this way i'll let's let's get into this here yep because i said the day that jimmy haslam was asked about it i would have counseled uh mr haslam to have answered the question not by like well i know the mannings i think he's going to stay in there it's like no we've got a great quarterback room we're happy with what we're going to do and we're not going to have the first overall pick which is what he's worthy of right like that would have been my answer if i if i were him i am not but they have to win a national championship for him to leave and there has to be a season where it is so obvious that he's a man among boys and there's nothing else for him to learn there.

44:26Rich Eisen:And also, they will, by the time he declares, the Manning family will look at the draft order and make a decision. And if you say it's the Saints... There's no better perfect storyline than him being the Saints quarterback. But he has to have a season where it is without question done. He doesn't need another year. with Sarkeesian in college football.

44:54Albert Breer:There are a couple of things here. I mean, obviously, Peyton and Eli exhausted their college eligibility. That's the obvious thing, that the Manning family has never run from college football.

45:02Rich Eisen:But I guess that's a different era as well, right? You know, there's no question about it. By the way, we're at the end of the hour for our radio audience. Before you finish your answer, I want to say thank you in front of the radio audience for being here. And for those who want to hear Albert's final thoughts on all this, that'll be on our YouTube stream later on youtube.com slash rich eyes and show i want to date with rewards carty says rules rucker asks this is the love story of real hinge couple carty and rocker written and read by me nicola dinan listen to the free audiobook now