Super Bowl Preview, NFL Coaching Carousel, Vikings' Darnold Regret

2 Feb 2026 · 35 min · 14 chapters

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Episode Title: Super Bowl Preview, NFL Coaching Carousel, Vikings' Darnold Regret Episode Date: [Insert Date of Episode] Hosts: Rich Eisen and Chris Brockman

Episode Overview In this episode of *The Rich Eisen Show*, the hosts dive into a series of NFL-related topics, primarily focusing on the Super Bowl, coaching changes, and player performances. The conversation is structured around the "Overreaction Monday" segment, where they analyze bold statements and hot takes leading up to the Super Bowl.

Key Topics Discussed

Super Bowl LX Predictions

  • Darnold's Impact on the Vikings:
  • Rich argues that if the Vikings had retained Sam Darnold, they might have been contenders for Super Bowl LX.
  • Chris dismisses this as an overreaction, highlighting various factors, including the team's overall performance and injuries.
  • MVP Predictions:
  • Rich posits that a non-quarterback might win the Super Bowl MVP, referencing historical precedents in past Super Bowls.
  • Chris agrees with the possibility, speculating on players like Jackson Smith-Njigba and Kenneth Walker.
  • Passing Yard Predictions:
  • A bold claim is made that the combined passing yards of Darnold and Drake May could be less than Tom Brady's Super Bowl record of 505 yards.
  • Both hosts seem skeptical but acknowledge the potential for low passing yardage due to strong defensive play.
  • Turnovers vs. Touchdowns:
  • Rich suggests there will be more turnovers than touchdowns in the Super Bowl, with Chris not fully agreeing but recognizing the potential for a clean game.

Coaching Changes and Future Predictions

  • Coaching Carousel Insights:
  • Discussion about which newly hired coaches might reach the championship weekend by 2026.
  • Multiple coaches are evaluated, with Joe Brady receiving particular mention.
  • Next Sam Darnold:
  • Rich speculates who might become the next Sam Darnold, suggesting Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, or Mac Jones.
  • Chris argues for Malik Willis, citing his potential to revive his career.
  • Myles Garrett Trade Request:
  • Rich predicts that Myles Garrett will ask for a trade from the Browns again, and Chris agrees with this notion.
  • Raiders' Future:
  • The hosts debate whether the Raiders will finish last in the AFC West, with Rich believing they will not, while Chris maintains skepticism about their potential.

Final Segment Highlights

  • LaFleur and Harbaugh Impact:
  • The LaFleur and Harbaugh coaching families are discussed in terms of their potential combined wins exceeding those of entire divisions in the NFL.
  • Chris ultimately calls it an overreaction, but there is recognition of the strength of both families.

Key Takeaways

  • Hot Takes and Overreactions: The dynamic between Rich and Chris showcases different perspectives on football narratives, particularly around player performance and coaching decisions.
  • Super Bowl Anticipation: The conversation builds excitement for Super Bowl LX, providing insights into the match-up and potential outcomes.
  • Coaching Dynamics: The episode highlights the importance of coaching in the NFL and how new hires can impact team performance in the near future.

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Chapters

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Super Bowl Anticipation

0:45 to 2:14

Discussing the excitement around Super Bowl week and the Pro Bowl games.

“But this is it now This is it now We don't call it a parade A pre-parade?”

Vikings and Sam Darnold's Impact

2:14 to 6:02

Analyzing the Vikings' firing of their GM and the decision to let Sam Darnold go.

“Or should they have refused to let Sam Darnold walk?”

Super Bowl MVP Predictions

6:02 to 9:48

Debating possibilities for non-quarterback MVPs in the upcoming Super Bowl.

“Jets fans, if you think watching the Patriots take on Sam Donald in the Super Bowl is really bad, what's worse would have been Sam Donald going to the Super Bowl as the quarterback of the Patriots.”

Unique Quarterback Matchup Analysis

11:18 to 14:04

Examining the unprecedented Super Bowl quarterback matchup and its implications.

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Darnold and May: A Super Bowl Duel

14:04 to 16:40

Explore the unique Super Bowl matchup of quarterbacks Sam Darnold and Drake May.

“And then you got Drake May, who's trying to become the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl.”

Coaching Carousel Insights

16:40 to 19:20

A discussion on the recent changes in NFL coaching positions and their impact.

“where it's just like, boy, that kid lost it for us.”

The Next Sam Darnold: Future Prospects

19:20 to 23:00

Identifying which young quarterbacks might follow the path of Sam Darnold.

“But to take the Giants to the NFC championship game, meaning, you know, one of these other terrific teams that made the Final Four won't make it again.”

Miles Garrett's Trade Talk

23:00 to 25:00

Speculation on Miles Garrett's future with the Browns and potential trade scenarios.

“Careful, he's going to be at the Super Bowl.”

Raiders' Coaching Situation and Predictions

26:52 to 28:00

Analyzing the Raiders' coaching decisions and predictions for their upcoming season.

“I don't think he's going to ask for a trade again.”

Mahomes' Injury and Season Outlook

28:00 to 28:31

Discussion about Patrick Mahomes' injury and implications for the season.

“He had some other stuff going on in there.”
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Raiders' Coaching and Team Potential

28:32 to 29:40

Exploration of the Raiders' coaching changes and their potential impact.

“You like their – do you like their – I would say – I think Clint Kubiak could be a terrific mind.”

AFC West Analysis

29:41 to 30:40

Analysis of the AFC West and the competitive landscape for next season.

“The Broncos might have a little hangover.”

LaFleur and Harbaugh's Impact

30:41 to 31:48

Discussion about the LaFleur and Harbaugh brothers in the upcoming season.

“You know, they don't do what we do, but that's fine.”

Win Predictions for NFL Divisions

31:49 to 33:05

Predicting win totals for various NFL teams and divisions.

“So combined, that'll be more than multiple divisions.”
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Transcript

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0:00Rich Eisen:So good, so good, so good. Spring styles are at Nordstrom Rack stores now, and they're up to 60 % off. Stock up and save on Rag & Bone, Madewell, Vince, All Saints, and more of your favorites. How did I not know Rack has Adidas? Why do we rack? For the hottest deals. Just so many good brands. Join the Nordiclub to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite Rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. All right, it's Super Bowl week, baby. We've made it. We've made it. It's a Super Bowl 60 week edition of Overreaction Monday.

0:40Rich Eisen:Rich Eisen along with Chris Brockman. How are you, sir?

0:43Chris Brockman:Rich, I'm excellent. No football this weekend. A little weird. But now we finally made it.

0:48Rich Eisen:I know. The big games here. The Pro Bowl games competitions.

0:51Chris Brockman:Is now Tuesday.

0:52Rich Eisen:No, no, no. I mean, they're flipping around. They're jumping around. They're catching footballs. They're doing stuff.

0:58Chris Brockman:Yeah, I mean, that's fun. But this is it now This is it now

1:02Rich Eisen:We don't call it a parade A pre-parade? A pre-Super Bowl parade? A rally? I'm sorry There's been 12 of those now

1:14Chris Brockman:The Patriots had their send-off It was great Matt Collins going nuts All the Warriors stuff

1:20Rich Eisen:Before he goes to the Golden State

1:21Chris Brockman:Is that what he's doing the Warriors stuff for? I don't know why they're doing it I don't know how it became a rallying crime But it's pretty fun You know what we're not going to do?

1:27Rich Eisen:Get inside Matt Collins' head No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hit it. Let's do it. That was terrible. That was crap. That was garbage. This play sucks. Overreaction. Mondays. Monday. A Super Bowl 60-week edition.

1:41Chris Brockman:Go for it, Chris Brockman. Gotta do the Jimmy Butler. I'm just like, what did I write this morning? Right. Rich, we've been talking about this. I've been talking about this, honestly, since October. And the Vikings did fire their GM last week while we were on the air. Shocking, breaking news. The Vikings would be the ones playing in Super Bowl 60. If they kept Sam Darnold. Oh, come on.

2:02Rich Eisen:That is a total overreaction.

2:03Chris Brockman:Justin Jefferson has been kind of hinting at it.

2:05Rich Eisen:I understand what Justin Jefferson has been outstanding all season long, being put in positions to say, yeah, do you miss Sam Darnold? Was it a mistake for your front office to let Sam Darnold walk? Or should they have refused to let Sam Darnold walk? You know, should they have given him the proverbial godfather offer? Let's just probably, probably. Let's just put it all in perspective here. Okay. again the the uh minnesota vikings draft jj mccarthy they move up a spot to go get him probably after they were one of half a dozen teams rejected by the new england patriots for the third overall pick so um they move up to get that guy they know he's not going to be ready okay they they they sense he's not going to be ready they're hedging their bets that he won't be ready right And they go and get Sam Darnold from the bench in San Francisco, which is a really smart move just to see what he's got, just to see what the upside could be, just to see if he could be the bridge quarterback before J.J.

3:10Rich Eisen:McCarthy. And not only is he a bridge quarterback, he damn near built a foundation underneath the bridge, right? And so this happens. they then go and win a 14th game by beating the green Bay Packers. He's brought into the locker room. They put them on his shoulders. It was amazing. And it was unbelievable. It was easily the best professional moment of this guy's life. And then over the next two to three weeks, everybody's thinking this was the ceiling that he hit with his head because he can't get any better than him winning a 14th regular season game because he then gets spanked by Detroit in a win and don't ever leave home game, or you got to go on the road.

3:53Rich Eisen:Then he goes on the road to the Rams, takes nine sacks. Half of them are laid in his lap because he's holding onto the football. And that's the end of that. Then he goes into the off season. And now what do you do? Let's not just, you know, listen, the whole business of, you know, the Vikings firing their general manager and you're, you know, all weekend long, some crazy stories out there man he he had a kid and then he took paternity leave which you don't do it two weeks whatever you know what i mean but but this stuff wasn't brought up you know whenever things were going all right or well for the viking it just it the only thing nothing that i heard over the weekend about why quasi adolfo mensa was fired by the vikings none of it appeared to happen in the last three weeks.

4:41Rich Eisen:All of it, if you had a problem with it, was a fireable offense, if it is such a thing. The Monday after the regular season ended, by the way, with the Vikings winning five in a row, five games in a row to go nine and eight, that's the moment where you fire your general manager and you go into the general manager pool when it's at its deepest and go and get somebody. The only thing that appeared to change between that Monday and the day that the Vikings made this move was that Sam Darnold made the Super Bowl. So can we sit here and say, no Sam Darnold on Seattle, Sam Darnold on Minnesota means we're all wearing purple going into the Super Bowl?

5:23Rich Eisen:That's an overreaction. We have no idea how the rest of the season could have gone. You have no idea if that offensive line that J.J. McCarthy couldn't be protected behind or the offensive line that Carson Wentz blew out his shoulder behind, that that wouldn't have gotten Sam Darnold too. we have no idea this is a total overreaction the question is just to bring it all full circle really chris is if the vikings had been able to get um drake may would the patriots be in the super bowl right now and of course the answer is no right and if the vikings had been able to get drake may would sam donald be in the super bowl right now unless he's on the patriots the answer is most well i mean that's possible which would have been kind of particularly mind-blowing hey Jets fans, if you think watching the Patriots take on Sam Donald in the Super Bowl is really bad, what's worse would have been Sam Donald going to the Super Bowl as the quarterback of the Patriots.

6:18Rich Eisen:So, thanks for helping Jets fans with that silver lining, Chris. It could be worse.

6:23Chris Brockman:It definitely could be worse.

6:24Rich Eisen:That's the question. It could be worse. You know, so the sliding doors that have happened because the Patriots told everyone else, pound Sam, we're taking Drake May. So, this is an overreaction.

6:35Chris Brockman:All right, that's fun. I just wanted to kick things off that way. Let's talk about the game. I think I'm going here. I've been saying this for a few years, and I think we're finally going to get it. Non-quarterback is going to win MVP on Super Sunday.

6:48Rich Eisen:Well, non-quarterback was the winner of the MVP in Super Bowl 50. Last time in Santa Clara, yes. The last time the Seahawks won a Super Bowl, it was a non-quarterback there. Malcolm Smith was a guy. I think Julian Edelman was the last time the Patriots won the Super Bowl. All right. Okay. So, hey, with the way that the Seahawks have been playing, which is, you know, if you take a look at most of the Seahawks wins, I mean, I haven't forensically, you know, CSI'd it down to the last digit.

7:22Chris Brockman:CSI Seattle.

7:22Rich Eisen:But there have been a handful of Seattle wins that were put together because the defense just spanked everybody in the first half, and Darnold didn't have to do very much. So if Donald doesn't have to do very much, and then no skilled player does very much because of that, and the defense balls out and comes up with a couple of defensive scores, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. How about this? A non-quarterback will win MVP on Super Sunday is not an overreaction of talking about the Seahawks. How about that if you want to play this game, which we have to because this is the name of the show.

7:59Rich Eisen:I like where your head's going here. And that if the Patriots win Super Bowl 60. It kind of has to be a Drake May game. I feel that it would have to be a Drake May game against this defense. Then the kid's really mirroring 2001 with Brady winning it all in his second year, looking at his family, putting his hands on his head in the Superdome. Yeah. I like that. So I will say this is an overreaction if it's the Patriots winning. It's not an overreaction if the Seahawks win.

8:28Chris Brockman:Some of the odds, Rich, in case you're interested, Jackson Smith and Jigba has the best non-quarterback odds, plus 550. Kenneth Walker, 850. And then it really shoots up some of the Patriots players. Give me Cooper Cup. Give me Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup, 100-1, along with DeMarcus Lawrence. He's got the best defensive player odds. Leonard Williams, 100-1. Nicky Minuri, 100-1. Where's Milton Williams? Milton Williams.

8:48Rich Eisen:Who's the top-rated defender on the Patriots? Is it Christian Gonzalez?

8:53Chris Brockman:I think it's Marcus Jones, actually.

8:55Rich Eisen:Oh, because he can do some special teams action.

8:57Chris Brockman:Christian Gonzalez 150 to one Mitt Williams 225 to one way way down way down best Patriots non Drake May odds Ramond Ray 30 to one Steph Diggs 45 to one

9:08Rich Eisen:kind of a fun one the Cooper Cup winning the MVP would be a wild story that a kid from Eastern Washington from Yakima would win the MVP of the Super Bowl with his home state team after he wins the MVP of the Super Bowl in Southern California for a team that parts ways with him. He winds up in Seattle and wins the MVP and becomes the first ever Super Bowl MVP to win that award twice, but with separate teams would be quite the story. That would be wild. So that's 101 odds. 101 for Cooper. Yeah. I'll call again, as I said, I'm just going to split it down the middle here, even though that's not what you're asking me.

9:59Rich Eisen:I'll call this an overreaction for the Patriots, but not one for Seattle. I like that. I like that.

10:05Chris Brockman:Good reasoning. Way to talk that out. Thank you.

10:06Rich Eisen:Thank you. I feel like I was who wants to be a millionaire. I just talked out my answer without phoning a friend or asking you to remove 50 % of it. Because that does tell you who would win it. Because it is 50-50. Yeah, absolutely. Vegas might not call it a coin flip, but there are two choices.

10:21Chris Brockman:It's definitely not a coin flip. but Seattle's still big favorites here on the Monday. All right, what else you got? Obviously, Rich, all about the quarterbacks, Drake May, Sam Darnold. You know, Sam Darnold's looked good. Drake May, not so much in these playoffs. I think these two are going to combine for less passing yards than Tom Brady's Super Bowl record of 505 set against the Philadelphia Eagles. Wow. As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back. From professional-grade products you can count on to fast, dependable delivery, they're there to help you keep things running smoothly.

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11:50Rich Eisen:Great one. I don't think that's an overreaction as well. Not the way that the Patriots have been playing defense, the way that Seattle's playing defense. What's the silly over-under on this thing?

12:01Chris Brockman:The silly over-under on the game? Yeah. It's dropped. It's down to 45 and a half. It opened at 46.

12:08Rich Eisen:Okay. I will just answer with this by saying, first of all, I don't believe that's an overreaction. This is going to be the first Super Bowl matchup ever between quarterbacks that were drafted top five and are not yet 30 years old. It's the first Super Bowl matchup in history between two teams at starting quarterbacks and head coaches all in their first or second season in a role with the team. This is the first Super Bowl between starting quarterbacks that each have fewer than four career playoff starts since Super Bowl 34 when Kurt Warner needed that extra yard against Steve McNair. so um it's wild how this super bowl matchup at quarterback is unlike in many ways what we've ever seen before they're both the third overall pick in their drafts as well um and 2024 are two of three drafts with four first round quarterbacks that all went on to win a playoff start and 83 is the other one as well with elway jim kelly tony eason and dan marino tony eason being the first ever quarterback to ever go to the super bowl uh to ever quarterback a patriot super bowl by the way now 11 super bowls ago so there's not a lot of experience between these two for a game of this magnitude period end of story and with the defenses on top of it going at them with one guy with an oblique and another guy with a shoulder we're already knowing who's both of them are in a hundred percent um they're going to try and establish the run watch for he'd shaheed will return to and marcus jones return to and this all goes rashid shaheed will do that you know what i mean so right um marcus jones picks six right like that yeah right so i i'm not talking my way out of this answer that's not a bad choice keep keep keep that in mine right there but it is again um a a rare quarterback matchup in the super bowl i love it especially since you know uh darnold is the third quarterback in super bowl history to start in a super bowl um having played for at least five or more teams with chris chandler being the last and the only other one was earl moral of super bowl three so darnold himself is a unicorn in a game like this or something similar.

14:24Rich Eisen:And then you got Drake May, who's trying to become the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl. So put it all together against these defenses. I think you're spot on in this one. You're setting it out.

14:34Chris Brockman:Let's keep it on the quarterbacks here. Sam Darnold, as awesome as he's been this season, did lead the NFL in turnovers. Drake May has been prone to fumbling, especially in the playoffs, playing in the terrible weather. Of course, he's banged up. Who knows how much zip he's going to have on the ball. Right. there's going to be more turnovers than touchdowns in this game oh no there's not

14:59Rich Eisen:no there won't be even though i just said there's a bunch of defense that's going to be playing i think it's going to be as awesome as these defenses have been playing too forcing turnovers

15:05Chris Brockman:that thing is gonna be a clean game really yeah how about this no picks on either side no fumbles

15:11Rich Eisen:how about this i i think it's going to be a clean game no peanut punches how about that how about this one um there will be more fourth down decisions that don't get converted than turn then turn away wow okay what do you think about that i like that i like that too you know although it doesn't i don't know if i agree with it but i i like it i think that there's going to be moments in this game where there'll be fourth downs to go for it and they won't get made you don't think this game has neither of these neither of these coaches have been like if this was mcveigh versus Sean Payton. Oh, my goodness.

15:46Rich Eisen:Or Ben Johnson versus Sean Payton.

15:48Chris Brockman:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you wouldn't be pushing back on me. You're just thinking. No, I'm thinking this game has some slot potential in terms of. Why? Well, you know, look, Drake May has looked, you know, a little rattled in some of these playoff games. Sam Darnold, this is obviously the biggest game of his career. You know, Super Bowls tend to start a little bit slow in the first quarter. The Patriots, Tom Brady notoriously never scored in the first quarter of his Super Bowls.

16:13Rich Eisen:More turnovers and touchdowns than Super Bowl 60.

16:16Chris Brockman:The spread is telling you maybe five or six touchdowns. You don't think we get five or six turnovers? No way.

16:22Rich Eisen:No chance, man. These teams are way too buttoned up. But the defenses have been playing lights out. I understand that. But, you know, boy, that would mean a bad Darnold game. And I'm not going to put that one. Or a bad May game, which is, you know, possible. I wonder if you've seen a bad May game. Like a bad May game. where it's just like, boy, that kid lost it for us.

16:46Chris Brockman:I wouldn't say lost it, but Denver.

16:47Rich Eisen:That's what you're talking about.

16:48Chris Brockman:Denver was not sharp. Yeah, but nobody was sharp in Denver. I don't know. Everyone's telling me that was football weather. Oh, boy. Let's move on to some of the coaches. We are now all filled. Ten. All ten slots have been filled now in the National Football League. Ten the most we've had in quite some time. Two of these coaches hired in this cycle. Two of them. They're going to make championship weekend next year. Next year.

17:13Rich Eisen:so you're looking at I'll take Joe Brady as one okay I'll take Joe Brady as one and the NFC doesn't have too many coach changes I don't think Stefanski is going to make it with Atlanta really they were the best team in that division so NFC championship game NFC championship game NFC the Patriots won four games last year No, I know that.

17:43Chris Brockman:With a roster not as good as Atlantis.

17:45Rich Eisen:Oh, Chris, don't walk into the Patriots had an easy schedule and an easy goal. I'm not. There's no Lamar. There was no borrow. No, no, no. There's no borrow. What I'm telling you is. There was no Mahomes. No, no, no, no. I'm telling you the roster's not as good as Atlantis. I'm just saying the conference is not as good as the NFC. At the end of the day.

18:05Chris Brockman:Okay.

18:05Rich Eisen:At the end of the day. Interesting. We will be potentially talking about this and another overreaction Monday. better quarterbacks in the AFC. Unless they had their knees blown out or their hamstrings get way or their toe get blown out. I just, I mean.

18:21Chris Brockman:But if you look at the.

18:22Rich Eisen:Uh-huh. Barrow wasn't around the whole season. Lamar was basically half himself all season. Mahomes wasn't there for a third of the season, pretty much a quarter of the season. Come on now. So I might take Jesse Minter as well. But that would be the Bills Raven. Let's call it. There's two Bills Ravens. There's two. I'm going to call it right now because if I'm right, we'll be playing this tape over and over and over again. There you go. That answers the question. I know. But the odds that the AFC championship game are going to be new coach versus new coach for teams that are otherwise hoping to get over the hump.

18:59Rich Eisen:One will actually make the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is new coach second year. One will get the Super Bowl. One owner that made a move in Baltimore or Buffalo to say, we need to get over the hump with a new guy. We'll get it rewarded right away.

19:11Chris Brockman:It's happening right now.

19:13Rich Eisen:Jeez. No John Harbaugh Giants.

19:19Chris Brockman:It's a tall order, man. The Giants. Jackson Darton is second year. Huh? Jackson Darton is second year. I get it. But to take the Giants to the NFC championship game, meaning, you know, one of these other terrific teams

19:36Rich Eisen:that made the Final Four won't make it again. Just look at this season, how crazy it was. Oh, man. So who are the other NFC coaches? But Mike LaFleur, we're not going there. No, I don't think so. Probably not. Yeah, most of the changes were made in the AFC. Okay. So I'll call this an overreaction, but my finger's on the chest piece with saying If it isn't, then it's going to be Baltimore versus Buffalo in next year's AFC championship game. Very reasonable. And a new first-year head coach is going to make the Super Bowl. Second year in a row in the AFC. Yeah.

20:11Chris Brockman:Okay. We're always looking for who's next, right? We love a redemption story. This Super Bowl is all about Sam Darnold. I think we can be honest about that. Who's the next Sam Darnold, Mitch Eisen? I'm going to put my finger on these guys. either Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, or Mac Jones is the next Sam Darnold gotta think of guys who've now played on multiple teams

20:34Rich Eisen:Sam Wilson didn't even get a shot in Miami when the thing was falling apart like Mike McDaniel going out the door

20:41Chris Brockman:Sam Darnold was terrible in Carolina after three seasons three games, goes to San Francisco, doesn't even play

20:47Rich Eisen:see, Mac Jones is a cop out for you he's on his four, he's played on three, four teams already He's already on the Sam Darnold plan, which is to spend time in camp. Kyle Shanahan. But he's not a free agent. Someone would have to go get him. Here's the next. I'll tell you the overreaction overreaction because you missed out. You missed the name. It's Malik Willis. Malik Willis is the next Sam Darnold. Malik Willis is the next guy who's going to go somewhere. Get 25. Get one shot. So let's see if you can be the bridge. Okay. Let's see if you can be a little bit more than the bridge. Let's see if you can make our lives, you know, more, you know, my life's better but also give us a first class problem about what do we do what do we do and and this kid went to camp lefleur right and in the same way that the titans couldn't figure it out with him and also bounce brable this will be another difficult moment for the franchise to swallow to watch what this kid can do because what he did in in green bay is real and we saw it against real opponents we saw it against the bears we saw it against the ravens although in a loss we saw we saw flashes of excellence two-way ability we saw also he's a first class individual the way that he was introduced to most of the nfl fans was at the combine where somebody was taking a video of him opening up his swag bag and giving away free stuff that he got uh to somebody on the street uh who clearly was in need um i would be all over him all over him and hopefully convince him to come to my spot and he will get the opportunity and then he will also be um under a contract that isn't 50 million a year 60 million a year or you're wondering you know are we going to get our return daniel jones appeared to be the next sam donald until his achilles yeah i thought

22:50Chris Brockman:about putting him on there but you know well i mean i think he's already shown that he has the ability to take somebody and so is malik willis which is why i didn't really include him we're looking for someone you know kind of two games slipping through the cracks well this is shown a

23:01Rich Eisen:couple games a little bit but mac jones is already on the plan trey lance and zach wilson have some work to do to be the next sam donald but i like where your head is at on this question all right

23:10Chris Brockman:thank you thank you rich last year uh in new orleans we had a a very giant human sitting next to you miles garrett the uh this defensive player of the year again this year i got to imagine and he looked you uh right in the face rich eisen and i think he lied to you i think what that he said he was done playing with the cleveland and that he cares about winning and it was all about championships.

23:35Rich Eisen:Careful, he's going to be at the Super Bowl.

23:36Chris Brockman:I understand.

23:37Rich Eisen:He's going to win the defensive player. I know. Probably unanimously.

23:40Chris Brockman:I hope I don't run into him. Miles Garrett, Rich, he's going to ask for a trade from the Browns again. Again. And he's right to do it again.

23:47Rich Eisen:I agree. I don't know if he's going to do it again.

23:50Chris Brockman:He's going to do it. What is the plan? Remember he told Andrew Siciliano that he was in on the plan and down with the plan.

24:00Rich Eisen:What happened last year couldn't have been the plan. It couldn't have been the plan, nor could hiring Todd Monk and away from the Ravens be the plan. Correct. Right. I don't know what the plan is. Could the plan work? Could Deshaun Watson come back and could Miles Garrett do what he's doing? And potentially, you know, Jim Schwartz being livid about not getting the job. Seems like that might be the straw here. Well, again, that might be the straw here. but you know, Jim Schwartz might take a page out of miles Garrett, which is like, I am not at all in the Browns camp. I am not ever going back to that place because, Oh wait, how much?

24:40Rich Eisen:How much? Yeah. Wait a second. Oh, sure. I'll be your defensive coordinator and finish out the, my contract. Oh yeah. Todd Monk is my new BFF. Sure. Oh, So I'm the head coach technically of the defense, and he's the head coach of everything else. And I get to sit here and coach the Cleveland Browns defense for how much? He might take that page from Miles Garrett, which is like, I think it stinks around here. Yeah. And every single fan can't blame me for saying it stinks around here. How many is there? Although fans were all over Miles when he was saying what he said. Yeah, of course they were.

25:19Rich Eisen:But then after a while, it was just like, can't blame him. And then he's like, how much? So he's still there. And I think Jim Schwartz is under contract. And if you wanted to go to San Francisco, they had Raheem Morris, which is a very nice hire. Yeah, that was a smart move. In that spot. And they're going to love him. And he's going to love them. And he's going to get his resume. He's on the Sala track. Well, I mean, don't forget, the guy before Sala got, you know, obviously Steve Wilkes didn't get a job. But, you know, D 'Amico Ryans did as well. So, yeah.

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26:52Rich Eisen:I don't think he's going to ask for a trade again. So that's an overreaction. But is he right to do so again?

26:57Chris Brockman:So if we run into him this week, you're not going to ask for a trade?

27:00Rich Eisen:He might just smile at you and say, who the hell are you? I mean, he's right to do that too. So it might stick your head underneath his arm and think that you're some sort of antiperspirant. Jeez, he's so huge. Get out of here.

27:14Chris Brockman:All right, Rich, two more, and we'll finish this up, and we'll get to Super Bowl week. Yep. It looks like the Raiders have their guy. Clint Kubiak is going to be there. Well, he's intending to try.

27:23Rich Eisen:Intending to work on a deal. He's intending to try to work on a deal, was the verbiage that we saw over the weekend. The language is an interesting thing.

27:33Chris Brockman:Behind him and Fernando Mendoza, who obviously is going to go first. The Raiders won't finish and last in the AFC West next year.

27:40Rich Eisen:Who will? Who will, Chris? Who will? Call it. I know you want to say it. Say it. Say the words, Kansas City Chiefs. Say it. Say it. say it go on say it kansas city chiefs ridiculous ridiculous but they they don't have a they don't have a quarterback here on february a healthy quarterback they have a quarterback yeah yeah sure sure sure he's got one leg let me ask you this question pat mahomes shows up in training

28:06Chris Brockman:camp walking around doing it but of course that's what's gonna happen my home's running around like he should not start the year he should not start the season you'd be like i would be shocked that I would be shocked because he had two. It wasn't just a clean ACL. He had some other stuff going on in there. I got you. Honestly, he should think about sitting out next year. Okay.

28:27Rich Eisen:Sitting out entirely. You're crazy. No, I think the Raiders have a lot more to go. And I think you're overreacting.

28:36Chris Brockman:You like their – do you like their –

28:38Rich Eisen:I would say – I think Clint Kubiak could be a terrific mind. The way he is dialing up the offense for Seattle is terrific. He has been a perfect man for the moment. A great hire by Mike McDonald. Obviously, Ryan Grubbs was there before from University of Washington and all that stuff, and it didn't work. They moved on, and yada, yada, yada. They're in the Super Bowl. I get it. He might be the next new Ben Johnson, the next hot shot, all of that. And I hope he is for the Raiders and for Brady and for everyone. But a fresh out of the box Fernando Mendoza behind that offensive line, you know, you might plus him up, what, 3-4?

29:21Rich Eisen:But in this division, in this division, even if you plus him up 5 in this division, you might still finish 8-9, 7-10, which would be last place. More likely than not. So you think the Chargers aren't going to get better, or at least stay as good, and you think the Broncos are going to get better or at least stay as good. The Broncos might have a little hangover. You're pegging. Okay. I would actually argue. You got to tell me who's in last. And you're saying Kansas City Chiefs finish last place.

29:50Chris Brockman:I'm saying Kansas City because of the roster. Jay Faly, this is for you. I would actually, I could make a really strong argument that the Raiders next year have the best QB running back pass catcher trio.

30:03Rich Eisen:With Brock Bowers, obviously. And Ashley Gentry. Okay. Behind what line? And it's a legitimate question. Now, they do have$90 million in cap space. I think their offensive line is going to be just fine. They could do that. They could buy some people and make the right moves. But they still have to, even plussed up five, have to get past everyone else in the division.

30:29Chris Brockman:That Chiefs roster is not good.

30:30Rich Eisen:And you know I'm a Raider lover. I love the fans and I love their passion and I root for them. NFL is better when the Raiders are good. They have been kicked in the Nards quite a bit. Yep. But this is a tall order, my man. Understood. What else? Last one. Finish up strong, Chris.

30:47Chris Brockman:Here's how we're finishing, Rich. We love brothers, obviously. You got a brother. I got a brother. You know, they don't do what we do, but that's fine. And two of these guys got jobs in this cycle. Talking about Mike LaFleur and John Harbaugh. Yes. The LaFleurs and the Harbaugh's combined will win more games than multiple entire divisions next year. Okay.

31:12Rich Eisen:So let's say Green Bay does a little bit better next year, wins 11. Sure. Let's say the Cardinals do a little bit better next year. We're going to give them seven.

31:21Chris Brockman:I was going to say six. Okay. So we just came up with 17. That's still 17.

31:26Rich Eisen:The Chargers, the Chargers, let's give them 12 wins. Okay. And you want to give, how many wins you want to give the Giants? 10? 11? Oh, that's really high. I know it is. Let's go over five. Nine and eight. For the Giants. Yeah. You were talking before about why won't John Harbaugh make the championship game? I mean, well, that was. Are they going to sneak in as a seven seed and go on an epic run? That's what happens with the Giants. Okay.

31:48Chris Brockman:Ten? Let's go ten.

31:49Rich Eisen:Add them up. What were we just giving?

31:51Chris Brockman:So what did we say, Chargers? Yeah, why not? Twenty-two. That's 29 wins. Sorry, 39 wins. Thirty-nine wins.

31:58Rich Eisen:Thirty-nine wins. So combined, that'll be more than multiple divisions. Yeah. Multiple divisions. Multiple divisions. All right. Overreaction. Overreaction. Overreaction. There were some bad divisions. So you don't have your numbers. You don't even have your numbers. You're just throwing things out there, and then you don't have your numbers. Well, my computer, but I had to re-log in. Oh, you had to re-log in. I had to redo the login thing. See, your computer's even saying this is an overreaction. Even your computer's telling you how off you are.

32:25Chris Brockman:AFC East had 36 this year. Uh-huh. Okay. AFC North, they were not good. They only had 29. Let's go.

32:34Rich Eisen:That's one division that they would have more than.

32:37Chris Brockman:NFC West. Okay. They were the best. Yeah. They had 41. Right. Okay.

32:42Rich Eisen:How about the NFC South? NFC South. You had three eight-win teams.

32:47Chris Brockman:NFC South had 30.

32:48Rich Eisen:Okay. So you just pegged two divisions that they would have had more wins than.

32:53Chris Brockman:The North had 38. I think this is doable. the LaFleurs and the Harbaugh's

32:59Rich Eisen:combined will beat multiple divisions alright put a pin in that one I like it I'll call it an overreaction

33:06Chris Brockman:I think that one's good I don't know I think that's going to come home to the rest Super Bowl 60 baby I'm so nervous

33:12Rich Eisen:we're going to be in downtown San Francisco for those of you who are taking in this show before the Wednesday of this week of Super Bowl week and you're in the Super Bowl town come see yours truly and Chris Berman on the stage at the Strand Theater. Cannot wait for this. RichEyesandLive.com is a spot to get your tickets. It's a live recording of a new podcast series that we're going to be launching later on this year called This Was SportsCenter where I'm interviewing OGs. Just some other guests that I've already got in the can. Mike Greenberg, Chris Fowler. Yeah, Chris did some sports centers before he did everything else that you know of him from college football to tennis and more.

33:55Rich Eisen:and then all week long our guest list is quite strong Hall of Famers galore all three days some celebrities Keegan-Michael Key on Friday Octavia Spencer on Wednesday words I've never said before

34:10Chris Brockman:is Seth Rollins going to lie to us again Seth Rollins will be there

34:13Rich Eisen:the host of the Liar Liar Pants on Fire edition of the Rich Eisen Show will be there as well and you should be too so thanks for taking in this show all season long we'll be back next Monday with a post-Super Bowl 60. We know who's one and all edition of Overreaction Monday. For Chris, I am Rich. Peace out.

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From the publisher

A weekly staple on 'The Rich Eisen Show' since 2018, 'Overreaction Monday' is now also an extended podcast with Rich and Chris Brockman debating the latest in the NFL. Today's topics:

1:10 - The Vikings would be the ones playing in Super Bowl LX if they'd kept Sam Darnold

6:05 - A non-QB will win MVP on Super Sunday

9:55 - Drake Maye and Darnold will combine for less pass yards than Tom Brady's Super Bowl record (505 versus the Eagles)

13:00 - There's going to be more turnovers than touchdowns in Super Bowl LX

15:20 - Two of the coaches hired in this cycle we'll make championship weekend in 2026

18:40 - Trey Lance, Zach Wilson or Mack Jones will be the next Sam Darnold

21:40 - Myles Garrett is going to ask for a trade from the Browns... again... and he's right too... again

24:45 - Behind Klint Kubiak and Fernando Mendoza, the Raiders won't finish last in the AFC West next season

28:20 - LaFleurs + Harbaughs will combine to win more games than multiple entire divisions in 2026
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