Tampa Bay Buccaneers Win-Loss Game

14 Aug 2025 · 53 min · 21 chapters

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In short

The Rich Eisen Show guest-hosted by WWE superstar The Miz, mixing wrestling behind-the-scenes stories, career “sliding door” regrets, and a “Tampa Bay Buccaneers win-loss game” fantasy-style season prediction segment.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  1. The Miz (host for the episode): WWE superstar; shares WrestleMania and WWE production insights; discusses his reality-TV-to-WWE path and hosting skills.
  2. O’Shea Jackson Jr.: Actor (Straight Outta Compton), host of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast; talks about growing up a wrestling fan via Sega Genesis WWF Raw, and his father Ice Cube’s life/business lessons.
  3. Jacob Fatu: WWE newcomer discussed by Miz as having “it factor,” intense promos, and standout in-ring ability; described as being frequently jumped by Solo.
  4. (Sports segment caller) Nick from Anaheim: participates in the Buccaneers win-loss schedule prediction.

Key claims

  • WrestleMania match: Shane McMahon’s real quad tear was handled as a seamless production moment; Snoop Dogg’s “people’s elbow” finish ended the match.
  • Miz credits Paul Heyman’s mentorship and territory work for character development; regrets not taking Heyman’s offer to write.
  • O’Shea says wrestling is a reliable refuge during strike uncertainty; Ice Cube’s rule: never do a movie you wouldn’t go see.

Notable examples

  • WrestleMania SoFi Stadium: Snoop Dogg sucker punch and elbow; camera/referee coordination to avoid showing real injury.
  • “No good time for bad news” from Ice Cube; “know your worth” and “earn your stripes” anecdotes from Den of Thieves.
  • Buccaneers schedule predictions: 16-1 run with wins over Falcons, Jets, Eagles, Patriots, Bills, Rams, Cardinals, and Saints; Super Bowl vs Detroit; fantasy keeper talk (Bucky Irving).

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Chapters

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The Buzz Around Travis Hunter and Shadur

0:34 to 0:59

Discussion on the excitement surrounding Travis Hunter and Shadur in football.

“It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.”

The Buzz Around Travis Hunter and Shadur

1:13 to 2:07

Discussion on the excitement surrounding Travis Hunter and Shadur in football.

“That's all anyone is talking about is these two players.”

WrestleMania Experience by The Miz

2:07 to 5:28

The Miz shares his behind-the-scenes story from WrestleMania and Snoop Dogg's involvement.

“And I get out there, Snoop Dogg's hosting with me, and Shane McMahon comes back.”

Insights into WWE Production

5:28 to 7:05

The Miz explains how WWE manages injuries and live performances seamlessly.

“Clash in Paris in two Saturdays where we have John Cena, who's on a farewell tour, by the way.”

Snoop Dogg's Performance

7:05 to 7:50

Discussion on Snoop Dogg's unexpected skills during his WWE performance.

“And honestly, that moment right there has stood the test of time.”

Regrets and Career Reflection

7:50 to 10:46

The Miz reflects on potential regrets and missed opportunities in his WWE journey.

“So I saw yesterday that Leonardo DiCaprio, he's got a new movie with Paul Thomas Anderson coming out and was looking back on his career.”

Learning from Paul Heyman

10:46 to 14:00

The Miz shares insights on the impact of Paul Heyman on his career and wrestling as a whole.

“Yeah, you might be like, well, that's a great opportunity.”

The Evolution of WWE Talent

14:00 to 19:34

Learn about the current state of WWE and the significance of top talents like Seth Rollins.

“Like you said, you would have had different challenges and different obstacles.”

Wrestling Insights with O'Shea Jackson Jr.

22:04 to 28:00

Delve into wrestling dynamics and the rise of new stars like Jacob Fatu.

“Like, what's the move that you could actually perform right now?”

Introduction to Wrestling

28:00 to 29:24

Learn about the host's early experiences with wrestling and its influence.

“who introduced me to wrestling through a game on Sega Genesis called WWF Raw.”
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Mick Foley's Impact

29:24 to 31:04

Discover the personal touches and kindness of wrestling legend Mick Foley.

“And so every year, my kids look so forward to getting these letters for Christmas.”

Fanatics Fest Experience

31:04 to 32:56

Hear about the memorable moments at Fanatics Fest and meeting legends.

“dude, you were the personification of For the Love of the Gay.”

Dream Guests for the Podcast

32:56 to 34:17

The hosts discuss their dream guests for the podcast and potential interview questions.

“TJ doesn't like that Triple H is in my phone under Paul.”

Emotional Moments in Wrestling

34:17 to 36:38

Explore significant emotional experiences in wrestling as a fan.

“Test that on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast.”

Life Lessons from Ice Cube

36:38 to 38:13

Learn valuable life lessons shared by Ice Cube and their significance.

“And they always chose the colorful person.”

Personal Experiences in Acting

38:13 to 42:02

Insights into the host's experiences in acting and navigating the industry.

“Wow, what life lessons did your dad bestow upon you?”

Miz Takes Over the Show

42:02 to 42:23

The Miz fills in for Rich Eisen and discusses his upcoming hosting duties.

“And I didn't have to fake a leg injury to do it.”

The Formula for a Super Bowl Champion

43:20 to 46:51

Discussion on what makes a successful Super Bowl team, focusing on culture, talent, and luck.

“Like, is there a formula, something a fan can think about or a player knows needs to be on a team?”

Memorable Super Bowl Plays

46:52 to 47:02

The Miz shares his experiences during crucial plays in Super Bowl history.

Bucs Win-Loss Game

47:04 to 50:14

A call-in segment discussing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' projected season outcomes.

“Let's get the schedule up there and we'll run it down.”

Fantasy Football Strategies

50:15 to 53:54

The Miz and callers discuss their fantasy football strategies and player picks.

“Bills-Bucks Super Bowl, 56-1, in case you're curious.”
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Transcript

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0:00This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.

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0:59This is the Rich Eisen Show.

1:01Rich Eisen:So far, so good. With guest host, WWE superstar, The Miz. I like it. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I feel like Travis Hunter is a bigger circus than Shadur right now. Is he going to play offense? Is he going to play defense? That's all anyone is talking about is these two players. Am I wrong? Earlier on the show, former NFL quarterback Johnny Manziel. Coming up, Cavaliers guard Max Struess. And now, sitting in for Rich, WWE superstar The Miz. Hello, I am The Miz. I'm filling in for Rich Eisen on The Rich Eisen Show. Earlier today, we've had Johnny Manziel. We will have Max Struess.

1:46Give us a call, 844-204-RICH. and TJ, I want to thank you very much because the last hour, you gave me 30 seconds to tell a three-minute story. You're like, whoa, why don't you tell us? Well, I'll tell you why, because this guy in my ear is like, you've got 30 seconds, and I know I can't tell that story in 30 seconds, so I'm finishing my story. But I knew we had another hour for you to tell the story. Why don't you start from the beginning? Can I paint the picture? Please do. WrestleMania. Yes. SoFi Stadium, I'm the host. Two nights. Jason over there. Oh yeah, we were. We were watching. And I get out there, Snoop Dogg's hosting with me, and Shane McMahon comes back.

2:19The crowd is going nuts. They're loving it. Shane McMahon challenges me to a match in my suit, by the way. $10 ,000 it cost me. But I'm like, I'm one for a challenge. I'm like, all right, let's go. So we get into this match, and he does a leapfrog where he jumps, and I kind of go under him, and he lands, tears both of his quads. For real. Like, it's no joke. It is a real, real injury. and real injuries happen in WWE. It happens all the time. And we have to be professional and make sure that nobody, everyone seems like this is part of the show. So I know when he goes down, I'm like, all right, he's injured.

3:01The camera's going to be on me because we don't like showing real injuries on there. So the red light is on me. Now I have to basically relay to a referee kind of what to do to the truck. So they kind of know what to do and what we're going to do next. Now I'm like standing like this and i know the camera's on me and i'm trying to talk like this to the referee because i know the camera's on me and they you can't hear me and so i'm telling the referee i was telling the referee i was like hey hey play someone's music i don't care whose music it is hit the finisher have snoop dog hit me with a hit me with a snoop dog elbow and so i get uh all of a sudden i turn around and Snoop Dogg sucker punches me.

3:46And I'm like, that's even better. That even works. So then he starts cutting a promo. I'm not hearing what he's saying because they're trying to move Shane out of the ring. And I'm just like, all right, I can't just take one punch. He's doing this too long. And I know I have to lay down for this Snoop Dogg elbow. And so I was like, give me another one. And by the way, Snoop Dogg isn't a professional wrestler, right? He doesn't do this for a living. but he's the consummate pro i mean if there is a celebrity that i would trust to do something like that that has no prior training it is snoop dog snoop d-o-double-g snoop doggy dog baby because let me tell you when when he punched me it was like it was a good punch it was solid punch it looked it was in there too and it looked great because it was in there and uh knocked me down he does the the snoop dog elbow covers one two by the way he's not even in the match he just covered and the referee counted to three and i remember going back and talking to my wife and she was like wow i thought that was that all was supposed to happen and the reason i'm telling you this by the way now is because there's a show unreal on netflix that we kind of give you the insights and the insides of what it takes to not only be a wwe superstar but the writer's room you get to see how triple h is involved how nick con is involved and it's it's an amazing show and I'm actually happy it's coming out because I think it gives a newfound respect of what it goes to to to put on a show like WrestleMania to put on shows each and every week.

5:21Monday Night Raw, two and a half hours on Netflix. You have two hours on SmackDown, USA Network. And then we have PLEs. We have a PLE coming up. Clash in Paris in two Saturdays where we have John Cena, who's on a farewell tour, by the way. after this we're not going to see him inside the ring anymore he has like 10 dates left i'm not sure how many matches he has i want to put my name in the hat because i want one last match with john cena i'm not sure if that's going to happen logan paul's getting that opportunity at clash in paris which i don't know what's going to happen it's going to be definitely an entertaining match but i gotta tell you man it it's been incredible to see the rise of or the popularity of people wanting to know what we do and how we go through it does that fill your your your uh your the void of that 30 seconds uh tj do you get a little bit of insight of absolutely and you could tell like obviously you could tell that something was wrong right jason and i could tell because my wife was like i couldn't tell shane went down you kind of you kind of realize wait a minute there's no reason for him to legitimately go down the way he was reacting the way i think And Jessica Carr, I think, was the referee.

6:34Seth did the same thing a month ago. Yeah, this is true. But this is Shane. And, you know, at that point, we all bought it. But it was just, bro, it was the quickness of which you and Snoop reacted. It's also the people in the truck. It's the camera people. It's the referees. We are all working as one unit, as one team, to make sure that you guys make it look seamless. So you guys don't have to worry about that experience. We're worried about your experience and what you're seeing out there. We want you to have moments, take away moments that will last a lifetime. And honestly, that moment right there has stood the test of time.

7:10Like, people still talk to me about Snoop Dogg giving me a people's elbow. By the way. In LA, you know, like, it was all there, and Snoop did it. And just the fact that he's not a wrestler, he picked up on what you needed, and he executed it like that. You guys, it was truly seamless. When I was teaching Snoop the people's elbow, I was like, do the crip walk into it. But I think everything kind of happened so much that it was just like, he didn't do it. But I thought it would have been cool to do the people's elbow, jump over, and just do the walk right into it. That was going around on Twitter that night.

7:44He's like, imagine Snoop would have crip walked into that. We had it in there. It just didn't happen. Okay. I like this Miz story time. I got one for you. So I saw yesterday that Leonardo DiCaprio, he's got a new movie with Paul Thomas Anderson coming out and was looking back on his career. And he said one of the biggest regrets of his career was passing on the Mark Wahlberg character in Boogie Nights. And he thinks about it all the time, about how such monumental a movie that was, what an achievement in filmmaking, and how he wished he would have been part of that now that he looks back. Do you have a regret in your WWE career that you kind of look back on or your early wrestling life and you're like, man wish I would have done that I try to live my life with no regrets I try to live my life with as having as much fun as possible and doing what I want when I want if I had to say like like a regret um so this is do I have longer than 30 seconds I think I do okay so this so I'm in developmental I'm at Deep South Wrestling in uh McDonough Georgia and what is told to us when you first get to developmental is and this is what's told to me if you can sell out in developmental in this territory then you go to another territory and this is the way the old days was you go to another territory and if you could sell out there maybe you can go up to the big leagues like wwe and then that's where you can really sell out you can showcase a character so i go down to deep south and every week paul hayman would come down for promo class and we would do promo class with paul Heyman.

9:19Now Paul Heyman was the creative for Ohio Valley wrestling, which was in Louisville, which was our other territory. So we had deep South and Ohio Valley wrestling. I was the champion of deep South. So we would do promos with Paul every single week. And Paul Heyman one day, uh, had me, uh, kind of transferred from deep South to Ohio Valley wrestling to work with me. and I was like wow that isn't like it wasn't everybody it was me and so I go to Ohio Valley Wrestling and I start working with Paul and my my baby face run like I was a baby face I was a good guy believe it or not like people loved me in McDonough Georgia we were turning people away I was a deep south heavyweight champion first one ever and we were turning people away I get to Ohio Valley Wrestling and people just weren't reacting to me the way McDonough was and this This is why you do territories.

10:13This is why you go from place to place because what works in one place might not work in the next. For sure. So I go to Ohio Valley Wrestling and it's not working. He goes, you know why? Cause you're a heel. And I go, I don't know, man. I don't know. He goes, believe me. So we worked on a promo together. And from that day forward, I became a heel. And Paul started working with me and he said, you know, you should come with me and write the show with me. You know, Punk comes in all the time and we'll sit here and write the show. And I wish I would have taken him up on that offer. And the reason I didn't.

10:47Yeah, why'd you pass up on that? Yeah, you might be like, well, that's a great opportunity. I mean, you just heard Kurt Warner yesterday talking about rookies, talking to him about reaching out. Like this guy is reaching out. He's one of the greatest of all times. I was coming from, like I was an outsider before Logan Paul ever did, right? And they made it like, oh, Logan Paul's an outsider. I was an outsider. I was from a reality show. Nobody wanted me in WWE, whether it was in developmental or if it was in WWE, like the big leagues. And I need people in the big leagues, like the higher ups to teach me how to become a WWE superstar.

11:23I knew that. I needed the JBLs, the Undertakers, the John Cena's to take me under their wing to show me what it would be like to be that. And I knew respect was a huge thing in WWE. It was huge. There's nothing and there's nothing bigger. they take the handshake very seriously when you walk into the backstage area you shake everyone's hand no matter if they have a meal about to take a bite out of food you're like hello sir good to see you that's the way it was that's the way you gain respect now how much would you respect a person that is writing the show and writing them to quote unquote get over i don't now now granted punk was doing that yeah but punk had respect i would say from the in the indies work i don't think he had respect uh from the higher or the the wwe superstars yet because he was just roh guy uh indie guy very popular down there but could he make it up here he hasn't done anything yet up here he was willing to take that risk and i wish i was too but i also think my trajectory would have changed i think i would have gotten up there and ms is all about himself because they already thought I was already about myself.

12:36Nobody wanted me. I was from a reality show. He just wants to be famous. He doesn't really want it. And so I wish I would have, I don't know if that's a regret because I wish I would have gotten that information. I would have learned how to write a show, how a show is formed, how to write. I mean, obviously he was teaching me how to write promos already, but to learn the whole aspect and teach me about it, I wish I wish I would have done that. But I also think my career would have changed and there would have been different things and different obstacles. I would have had a hurdle through to get to where I am today.

13:13Makes sense. I would have probably been able to do it and work it, but it would have been even harder. And it was hard, hard when I was coming in. It was very hard. Not in not just for me. I mean, I think CM Punk had it hard as well. I think he had to he had to really prove himself and continues to prove himself. Yeah. And so, yeah, that's my, that would be a regret. I don't know if it's a regret, but it's one of those things I wish I would have learned. But now I'm learning more. And by the way, how great is Paul Heyman doing right now? I mean, look at what he's been able to do, not only with just ECW, but keep evolving not only himself, but that younger talent.

13:56Everyone he touches. Braun Breaker, Bronson Reed. Were we talking about them a year ago? now they're in main events every monday they're with paul hayman and seth rollins who in my opinion is the best like when when we're when we're when he's said and done we'll be talking about him in goat territory and mount rushmore territory and i don't think he i mean he hasn't scratched the surface of his talent of of where he is in wwe and i don't think he's happy where he is right now as in like he wants more and always wants more even as a champion and that's the mentality you have to have as a top talent but to have paul hayman in their corner to have paul hayman in roman's corner look what he did for roman yeah man took over the business in four years i mean there brock lesnar cm punk was the first one being the voice the voice was being a paul hayman guy was certainly yeah and funny enough i was a paul hayman guy before paul hayman guys was cool funny talk about maybe not a regret but it's like a sliding door moment like what could have been, what maybe could have been.

15:01Like you said, you would have had different challenges and different obstacles. Are you sitting right here today? Who knows? Maybe not, but maybe so. Yeah, you never know. That's the problem with regrets, right? If you regret something and it happens, it changes your whole trajectory. Maybe I'm not the first ever two-time Grand Slam champion. Or maybe I'm a 14-time WWE. You don't know these things, but I'm happy with the path that I've chosen. I'm happy where I am today. I'm happy being here hosting the Rich Eisen show. Funny enough, Mike, I'm actually wearing an Ohio Valley wrestling t-shirt.

15:39So funny. This was the class of 02, one of the greatest classes. I'm trying to think of my class. My class would be me, Punk, Damien Sandow or Mizdow. Mizdow, yeah. Trying to think of who else would be in that right now. No, Kofi wasn't in that class. He was the class after me, I would say. Sheamus was a class after me. That's more the FCW, Florida Championship Wrestling. But I would say me and Punk would be on that shirt. You know, what's funny is Punk was the first guest of my podcast with O'Shea, No Contest Wrestling. He was our first guest. And he brought up the fact that Paul, because nobody wanted to work with him, Paul saw something in him, brought him down, and he was like, all of a sudden I'm timing out matches.

16:20I'm learning to write TV. And he goes, wait a minute, I'm, like, writing this show. And he thought it was invaluable. It is invaluable, 100%. Your reasoning makes sense because reality stars of today are looked at different than when you were a reality star. Back then, people still had this weird thing with reality people. I think today's reality, like me as a reality star, today it's an influencer. Yes, exactly. He's just an influencer. I remember being at the All-Star MLB baseball game, celebrity baseball game, and they were announcing people. and they announced some influencers like tiktokers and they got booed out of the building and i was like oh yeah that was me like 20 years ago but it seems like those that i don't know that particular sect of people they're they're a little bit more well received because reality stars back in the day man you guys took crap like they did not want you in the locker room tv didn't want us because we were taking jobs from scripted shows and those are trained actors and you're just a no talent hack that's on uh uh that's that's just you know laughing in front of a camera but you don't realize how much it takes to be a reality star it takes it does take a lot it takes a certain type of talent you watch these shows and you see people that are just wallpaper and it's not entertaining that's why when i set out to do ms and missus i go i know how to do a reality show like i do and my wife is incredible in it our kids are incredible my dad we were making my dad marjo all these different stars like they all had their their their their their their particular characters if you will but it's them and it's a great and i was like we that's why we had success in it it's because watching and learning how to do a reality show and then being on the challenges and then going into my own you you kind of learn the trick of the trade and being a ww superstar it teaches you all the land everything i think ww has trained me to be a great host a great person good in media uh it's taught me how to work in front of a live audience it's really uh hostile environment yeah anything you could throw anything at me and it it doesn't phase me anymore now granted i get nervous i get nervous before i go out every single match you do i do oh my gosh are you kidding me i'm about to faint every time do you watch me like when i'm when i'm here right before i'm going i'm doing this i'm all over the place but once the camera when i say see a red light it all goes away yeah i don't know why it's so weird i'm a big guy on preparation i prepare i prepare i watch kurt cousins on those quarterback shows and i'm like i'm that i'm the exact same way yeah i'm an ultimate preparer when i hear about tom brady preparing i'm like and everyone's like he's crazy i'm like no that that's that's what everyone does that's normal and i think everyone does that and my wife's like you know you're you're different you're a little different oh that's interesting that's interesting a different good and that's you know why you've achieved the level of successes that you have that's why you're so good and a natural at this so yeah man don't change anything i'm not sure and i'm the miz that's my hand filling in for Rich Eisen on the Rich Eisen Show.

19:34We will be right back with O'Shea Jackson Jr. Let's go.

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22:03Rich Eisen:What could you do? Like, what's the move that you could actually perform right now? Oh, man, you know what? I can kick a guy in the nuts without actually kicking him in the nuts. Yeah, I'm gonna pass on that. Hold on a minute. No, it's my party trick. I guarantee it. I won't hurt you. So, is Is this a... I'll take my tankers off. Could this be sanctioned? Can she try to... Yeah. Okay. Let's see. Who would volunteer for this work? Come on, you just have to spread your legs and wish for the best. Mike, Del Tufo. I mean, we'll both do it. We'll both do it. Mike is about to join the ranks of the Unsullied here on the...

22:39Let's do this thing.

22:40Rich Eisen:Wow. What are we about to attempt to do right here? Kick him in the nuts. Without actually hurting him. Yeah, exactly. But you will make... I'll make contact, yeah, absolutely. Okay, but you will not hurt him. No. Well, it doesn't matter. You have no desire to have children anyway. No, I'm good. Yeah, exactly. WWE superstar Paige. We'll see. Do we have the, go ahead and hit it there, Jenny. Here we go. All right, spread them for me. Okay, ready? If I was you, I'd pull your shorts up a little bit, just so I can have a bullseye. There we go. Got it. Jeez. All right, ready? This is great. We'll see if this works or not.

23:12I've only done this once before. I know.

23:14Rich Eisen:All right, Paige, how about it? Superstar Paige, here we go.

23:22No contact. I just slapped him in the butt.

23:25Rich Eisen:No contact. You're up next. That was a good slap on this. Yes. Chris is up next. Uh-oh. You're the one who was making funner. So there we go.

23:40It just hurts on your butt. I'm sorry. Are you serious? Are you serious, Chris? I'm selling it. Oh! Oh! Yay! Vince McMahon, take note!

23:51Rich Eisen:All right, fight with my family. Fight with my family. Go check it out. I'm sorry for the sackbox, sir. It was like... Well done. Fantastic.

24:10Ladies and gentlemen, my first guest, or second guest, actually, of today, is the star of Straight Outta Compton, one of my favorite movies. He's the star of No Contest Wrestling Podcast. He is going to be filling in for me and Rich tomorrow. He is the host of The Rich Eisen Show. Ladies and gentlemen, O'Shea Jackson Jr. My goodness. I've never been so welcomed on this show. Is that the kind of interviews you're going to, introductions you're going to do tomorrow? I'm going to try to bring it a little bit. I realize how you're hosting right now. You're staying Miz. You're not rich. You're being Miz.

24:50So I got to be Shea. That's all I can be. You just got to be you. Just have fun and enjoy yourself. Yeah. He's giving me the keys to the house, and we will see how smart that was, Miz. Who we got as a guest? We got Jacob Fatu to start us off with. You're excited about that one? Yeah, I'm pumped about that. Let me tell you about Jacob Fatu, man. Yeah. he's special he looks insane he is special yeah getting in the ring with him i was like oh he's good and he is one of those guys because we've been talking a lot about this that will go to to the veterans and go hey how can i get better what can i do to be better and i i literally i look at him and i see the intangibles the it factor the when i'm in the ring i can tell when a guy is going to be a bona fide superstar like when I remember being in the ring with Roman and they were trying to figure out if he's going to be going up and I got in there I was like this guy is amazing I knew Jay and Jimmy Uso were going to be superstars because I could feel them in a ring I could feel their energy right and even AJ Styles when he first came into WWE everyone in in the back was not sure if he was going to be able to become the AJ Styles that he is today.

26:10But when I got in the ring with him, I go, there's something about him. And he's different from everybody else that I've worked with, but there's something about him that gives him that it factor. Jacob Fatu has the it factor. He will be a big rise. I mean, right now he's rising, but he will be a huge star in the WWE. The world is his oyster. His promos have energy. They're infectious. the in-ring work he can do every move and a guy at his size he should not be doing half of the things that he is doing but he is still doing what do you think of Jacob Fatu man I love his intensity and yeah there's just um you believe him you know when he tells you that uh he'll dog walk you you believe him oh yeah he uh he brings it and uh obviously the move set is there and And it is just that next level that you see the WWE starting to show you new superstars to kind of be the guys.

27:08And it's written on the wall. You know, Jacob Fatu, people were having whispers about him for so long. So when he finally made his WWE debut, couldn't be happier with the Samoan werewolf. He's in trouble right now because he's getting jumped every single time. Well, yeah, he needs to. Every single time. Yeah, he's definitely getting jumped every single time by solo. Talking about that tomorrow. Talking about, you know, how I'm going to use the interview tomorrow is I'm going to cheat for the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because we're definitely going to be using those clips. How's that podcast been going?

27:46It's going really well. Are you enjoying it? Yeah. So you've always been a huge fan of WWE. Growing up, what was that like? Did your pops love wrestling? Is that how you got into it? I mean, yeah, my dad loved wrestling. He kind of got out of it, but it was really my big brother, Daryl, who introduced me to wrestling through a game on Sega Genesis called WWF Raw. That's when he showed me Razor Ramon, Doink the Clown, Bam Bam Bigelow, Taker, Shawn Michaels. And from there, he was like, you know, we can watch these guys. And then I was like, oh, all right, these are real people. It's not just a game.

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28:21And he showed me, and probably about 98, 99 is when I started watching, like weekly and then by the 2000s i'm fully locked in i'm locked in to to raw back when smackdown was on upn like i'm locked in and yeah now it got to the point where i finished filming dinner thieves 2 and i had um swagger season 2 had just aired and we were on strike and that scared me because it was like at any time two people can have an argument that causes me to lose my income for eight months and I didn't like that so I needed something to that I could rely on and wrestling don't give a damn wrestling gonna be here you know and no offseason didn't even stop during the pandemic so it's always gonna be something I can go to and so I was thinking of ways that I could talk about wrestling you know whether that would get on streaming and do it and then little did i know that there was a conversation being had with between rich eisen and my man tj jefferson back there and when it came time to kind of pick a host for this wrestling show that uh he wanted to pair with tj tj had me at the top of the list so you know that's why that's my taxi partner your best interview do you think like you you've probably how many you've how many interviews have you had so far interviews i know we're i know our episodes are in the 40s but we probably have a favorite like do you like do you have one that you're like or or maybe in a couple that you're like dude this was amazing it's everything i wanted to be it was crazy yeah yeah and mick like came in studio but like to be able to sit down and like talk to mick there were a lot of times tj would tell you too there's a lot of times we're just like it's mick foley i just found myself staring at him yeah like like a monument like you know what's crazy like every year he sends my kids yep santa cards like he loves santa claus he loves christmas yeah and so every year he gets these amazing like drawing pictures that he writes a whole and the writing is immaculate it's gorgeous and he and he'll always text him be like hey can you give me a little bit about what they're into and he'll write all about it.

30:42And so every year, my kids look so forward to getting these letters for Christmas. One year he forgot. I think it's because I moved and I didn't tell him. And he was like, oh my God, I cannot believe it. And he sent it late, but the kids still loved it. That's the type of person that Mick Foley is. Just a good dude. And I told him, I said, dude, you were the personification of For the Love of the Gay. because you've done so much that you don't have to do, but because you get it. And he told us about having tax on the ring and taking a bump on the tax face first. And he was like, I might lose an eye, but think of the pop.

31:25And the man right there is just crazy. But that's what we live for. That's what we live for in the ring because the pop, it's not just us getting the pop. It's the audience getting that experience too. Because that person, whoever it was involved in that arena will always remember that moment. So that's what we're always living for. That's what we're always striving to do. The moment. And he spoke about that. He spoke about, you know, he said he wasn't as athletically gifted as a lot of the other greats. But if you talk about him on that car ride home, he got you. That moment, the stealing the show moments.

32:03And he's got a lot of them. He's got a lot of them that have been tried, people have tried to recreate but nobody doesn't like Mick so Mick was one of my favorites CM Punk you know because it was our first and he come in a suit no no no he came in a t-shirt really in a heat t-shirt I have a hard time seeing him in a suit back in the day when I used to see him it would be like Hall of Fame and I'd be like dude suit yeah right now I'll see him a couple times be like look at this guy yeah CM suit yes oh I'm texting him that CM suit but yeah so it's been a blessing so far. We've had a great ride. We got to go to Fanatics Fest.

32:43How was that? It was amazing. I've been to the first one. I heard the second one was even bigger. I got to meet Triple H. Stephanie McMahon gave us hugs. It was like the best time. We got to meet Taker. Got to meet and talk with Nick Khan. TJ doesn't like that Triple H is in my phone under Paul. He feels like that's out of line. but like this one. Yeah, he's not Paul and mine either. It's Triple H. It just bugged me. He kept calling him Paul. I'm like, you don't know him like that. Don't call him Paul. I guess he feels like he knows him like that. Chef Paul, bro. He's cooking out here. Who's the one person that you guys would want on the podcast right now?

33:23Like, what's your, the get? Like, what's the one that you're like, this is what I want? I do a one, two, three, and I know what you're going to say, and we'll hit him with it. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You just gave it away. I just wanted to make sure we're live. One, two, three. See that little noise right there? When you hear The Rock's music, you're waiting for that. Because that's where the pop happens. And I've been waiting on that since WrestleMania 41. So, like, Rock, he's going to be kind of around the time of our 50th episode will be when I would assume he's starting promo for the Smashing Machine.

34:02so it'd be a good look look you're really getting in depth with where all right he's doing this this this and this this is how we can get him yeah buddy what would be like what would be like a question that you'd want like to really ask him i have a few questions that like because because we're on our our first leg of meeting a lot of people for the first time there are certain questions that i can't not ask people i gotta know about you getting bit by the wrestling but you know what that was i gotta know your welcome to wrestling moment where you're like okay this is my new life all right this is what we chose uh another one of my favorites is uh obviously our bar fight question where we at we put them we put superstars in a situation where they got to fight 50 people and they need to pick a team of them and four other superstars to make it to the car which is always fun wow people love drafts yeah people love drafting and then uh another one that is kind of close to my heart is when, as a fan, did wrestling break your heart?

35:07So I need to ask you. Wow, those are great questions. Look at you. Test that on the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. No Contest Wrestling Podcast. Let's go. You guys are getting into it. What's that? When did wrestling, as a fan, because you were a fan, when did wrestling break your heart? Break my heart? Yeah. My example that I always use, obviously, when Austin teamed up with McMahon and beat Rock at 17 or x7 if you're one of those people uh but then uh uh also when hulk hogan definitely ran the rock over and uh and while he was in an ambulance as a kid i was crushed you know you know it wasn't as a kid oh yeah it didn't break my heart as a kid all right when when wrestling and it wasn't even a broken heart it was more of a oh yeah that was beautiful okay that was incredible sean michaels okay rick flair oh yeah i'm sorry i love you i'm sorry i love you yeah the way he said it and the way flair is selling up it was there was just beauty and magic in that moment the audience all knowing what is going to happen we knew before even going in but the way they were able to sell that reaction is unlike anything i've ever seen it was amazing it was beautiful and even like now i'm still getting i'm getting goosebumps just talking about it you know and i'm a grown man like i'm a grown man yeah but you that's the that's the beauty of professional wrestling we take you into our arena and we share this audience and this this crew like it's almost like a fraternity or a sorority and we're all together and we're all watching the same product and we're getting involved in the same characters but some people love characters more than others and you get to choose who you love and who you like my daughters right now love alexa bliss why do you love alexa bliss i like her pink hair yeah they're five and seven yeah they're five and seven yeah sometimes just a cut like sometimes i i'll watch my daughters watch the show and i bet who do you like?

37:11And they always chose the colorful person. And I was always like, well, that's why Cena looked like a Fruity Pebble. What do you think about the farewell tour? And TJ will tell you, I don't fake the funk. I'm not a funk faker. I was not a Cena fan. Really? Man, I would, ugh, always wins. But then he loses too, because that's how you get to 17. But like, man, I just always felt like he won. My little brother Sharif, full-fledged member of C Nation, and I couldn't stand it. People like winners. Yeah, I could. People love winners. Oh, man, I get it. You do the Marine movie, and you come out saluting me every time now.

37:52Get out of here. By the way, Marine 6, fire. Look at that. See that? We're getting a lot of plugs for the Marine today. I'll tell you what. I'll take that all day. I got you, bro. All day. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. So what else we got tomorrow? Who else you got as a guest? um the middle the middle uh section is a you know it's still pending but third we're going to finish it off um with uh actor rapper uh i'm a big fan of him uh we're going to be talking about his basketball league uh ice cube is going to be joining us i hear he's a good dude i can't wait to talk to him yeah should be nice wow you made a call didn't you you're like i mean my mom paid up and he said yeah so were you close with your dad growing up yeah absolutely that was like he's the best coach I could ask for and in fact basketball coach yeah he was my basketball coach but he's also my life coach but uh yeah and he's the he was the dad who coached that uh once the ball went in the air my name is 33 like my name is you know whatever my number is he won't say my name he's just I look for my number to hear from him and uh it he's been my coach all out through life my basketball coach obviously when I was a kid but today just happens to be the 10 year anniversary of Straight Outta Compton of my first acting gig ever where he got to see all his coaching come to fruition you did so good man I know right that movie is unbelievably it's just so good because I remember you know when they came out and it was just it was unlike anything that anyone's ever seen I remember CB4 coming out I mean I remember all that stuff I mean my first my first CD if everyone remembers CDs was Ice Cube nice it was it was having a what is it today was a good day yeah like that was my first that and it was onyx slam oh yeah those were my two CDs those are the two my I had two first CDs that I ever got.

40:01Wow, what life lessons did your dad bestow upon you? Like what does Ice Cube bestow upon you? I think one of the biggest lessons he's ever given me was there's no good time for bad news. That's a heavy one. Because a lot of us will get some information and try to procrastinate to see if there's a good time to tell somebody there is no good time. Just take the bandaid off because that way you can heal the quickest, you know? So that's a good one. When it came to the business, he always told me to never do a movie that I wouldn't go see. Don't do anything that, like just having knowledge of whatever I put on that screen is going to be there forever.

40:45And nobody's going to be like, man, the writers on this did him terrible. Or like nobody's thinking about all the other things. They see you and you did that and you got to hold that forever so never do anything that you wouldn't go see um and don't put yourself in those positions like things like know your worth know your worth is tricky because there was a situation on the first den of thieves where you know it's my third movie ever and i was on set a lot of the days for 13 14 hours and they wouldn't use me they just wouldn't have time to get to my characters I was I'm I'm supposed to be low-key in that movie so I don't have a lot of meaty scenes so I called him one day and I was like dad this is like the third day in a row where like I've been here 12 14 hours and they haven't used me he's like go home tell me that you fly in LA and call you when they need you I said dad it don't work like that I can't do that That's an ice cube way of thinking.

41:52That's an ice cube way of doing things. I'm still trying to earn my stripes. So a lot of that had to be filtered and shifted into how I can do things. But now I'm a 10-year vet, Miz. I'll get on a plane. And you're hosting this show tomorrow. That's right, TJ. And I didn't have to fake a leg injury to do it. That's right. That's right. Hosting tomorrow. You got the No Wrestling Contest podcast. Congratulations on all your success, man. We really love it. And I am the Miz filling in for Rich Eisen on the Rich Eisen Show. And we will be right back.

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43:17Rich Eisen:What makes a Super Bowl champion in your estimation? Like, is there a formula, something a fan can think about or a player knows needs to be on a team? Well, I think it starts with a culture first. If you don't have a winning culture, meaning that you have from top down, from coaches to every player on the roster, everybody is bought into what you're doing in the smallest ways. and that you're not having to be directed by everybody. So if there's an issue, if your locker room can handle it within a locker room without it ever having to be a coach thing, then you know you've kind of established some type of culture.

43:56Secondly, you've got to have the talent. But then I think the two other things that really are kind of out of your control is you've got to stay healthy and you've got to come up with a little bit of luck. And so I can remember when we played the Dolphins when I was in New Orleans. We were down, I don't know, 21 points or something like that and ended up coming back and winning that game. We played in the Redskins and tight game. We're on the road. We're losing. And Drew Brees throws a pick. And then Robert Meacham strips the guy and then runs it for a touchdown. I remember that. Yeah. And so like games like that, we probably weren't supposed to win, but we did.

44:39You know, that kind of prepare you. You know, when you have the talent, you have the culture, you always give yourself a chance.

44:44Rich Eisen:And you also have to have those button pushing moments to both your coaches for you. Super Bowl wins made some ridiculous calls on special teams. Ridiculously cojones filled calls. Definitely. What was it like in the locker room when Sean Payton said, we're going to go on sidekick to start the second half of that Super Bowl? So I think it's like, you know, both coaches, I think, understood, like, who we were, right? And so we were playing the Colts, and, you know, Manning was eating everybody up. We knew going into that game we needed to steal two possessions. If we can do that, we can score with them, and we win.

45:20And so the very first one, two weeks before the Super Bowl, we said, all right, we're going to put in this kick, practice it over and over and over and over. And we go in at halftime, and he's like, hey, how do y 'all feel about it? and everybody's like, let's do it. And so we come out, we get it. That was the first possession we stole, and then the second one was Tracy Porter.

45:38Rich Eisen:So you took the temperature of the locker room? Yeah, I mean, yeah. He's like, hey, how do you guys feel about it? Everybody's like, run it. All right, let's go. Same thing, you know, and when we played the Patriots, we knew they were going to— The Phillies special. Yeah, we knew they were going to go, and they were going to score points. For us on defense, it got to the point where, like, we just need one stop, and then if our offense can keep, you know, Doing stuff that Philly special, obviously, is one of the gutsiest plays in Super Bowl history. It paid off. It's amazing. You were there for both.

46:09Rich Eisen:I mean, you could say gutsiest calls in the history of the Super Bowl. We just talked about one, two. You could even argue which one's one and which one's two. Yeah. In the history of that, you know. Yeah. When you think about it. Yeah. I mean, I was just, you know, I was on the field for one and just on the sideline for the other just kind of watching. But Philly special, you're on the sideline. Yeah. Right? And I didn't know what they were going to run. You did not. No, I didn't. I hadn't even seen them practice it. Really? Yeah. So I didn't even know where it came from. So you were like a fan in the stadium.

46:39Rich Eisen:Yeah. Which was like, where the hell did that come from? Right. I mean, it's a copycat league. The Patriots ran that play against us a couple years before we played them in the Super Bowl. Tom caught it and then did it again in the Super Bowl. And obviously Tom didn't catch it that time.

47:01And we're back. I am the Miz taking over the Rich Eisen show for Rich. Let's take a call, shall we? Nick from Anaheim. What you got for me, Nick? Hey, Miz. Big fan. Thank you. Here to do the Bucs winner-loss game. Ooh, a Bucs winner-loss game. We've done quite a few of these. All right, Nick, hold on. Let's get the schedule up there and we'll run it down. Jay Feli, let's get a little music. Bucks win-loss. Week one at Atlanta. Week two at Houston, Monday night. Week three, Jets. Another. Eagles, week four. They always struggle coming and playing with us. We ended Jason Kelsey's career, and we shut down the best game.

47:57Oh, Porto! Week five at Seattle. Win. Week 6, San Francisco. I would love to do this for my mother. Win. 6-0 Week 7 at Detroit Monday night. I need this. Win. Give it to me. 7-0 at the Saints. Easy win. 8-0 into the bye week. Patriots Week 10. Love it. Give it to me a win. At Buffalo, week 11. See, this is going to be the Super Bowl right here. I think it, because I just picked Josh Allen for my quarterback. All right. For fantasy. Smart. It's going to be tough. But it's going to be a loss, but we'll get the win in the Super Bowl. All right. Oh, finally, the win streak is over. Okay. Week 12 at Rams.

48:51Sunday night football. I am trying to get to this game. Win. Week 13, Cardinals. Win. Week 14, Saints again at home. Win. Falcons short week Thursday night football. The creamsicles. It's going to be so pretty. Win. Panthers week 16. Panthers? Oh, win. This is the end of the stretch, so it's simply win out. Win out. So you're looking at 16-1. That is a good next. That's what I'm talking about. 16-1? going? Sorry, repeat that. 16-1. One seed NFC and you're going to the Super Bowl. Is that what we're talking about right now? Yeah, and then we'll see Detroit because they got to come to us and then we'll beat them.

49:46And then Philly has to come again and then we'll show them who actual Super Bowl champions are. Nick, what about the Browns, man? I mean, you got to beat the Browns to go to the Super Bowl. What about the Browns? Great point. Oh, the Browns, legendary Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield will leave us there. That's cute, Nick. That's cute. That's real cute. Thanks, Nick. You got this, guys. Let's get it. Thanks, Nick. Bills-Bucks Super Bowl, 56-1, in case you're curious. Well, I don't know about that. I got to tell you, thinking about Bucky Irving for a running back in fantasy football, I'm debating on it, though.

50:28I got him as one of my keepers. Is this one of your keepers? What round? Seventh. Seventh? That's a great value. Great value. What other keepers? Do you have a lot of keeper leagues? 11th round. This is my main keeper league. I got Brian Thomas in the seventh, Bucky Irving in the 11th. Wow. And who's your top three right now, if you're looking at it? Depending on the keepers, who's going to be available, you mean? Yeah, sure. Well, top three. So I imagine most people aren't having keepers, right? Right. So top three would be Chase, Bajon, CeeDee Lamb. Okay. Saquon, probably. Yeah, I mean, Saquon, where do we put Saquon?

51:06Do you usually go like wide receiver, wide receiver, running back, or it's best available, or do you go running backs? I have different strategies for different leagues. Right. My main league, full PPR. So wide receivers are a little more valuable. Plus we start three of them. So you kind of want to load up. I would take Chase, number one. I feel like there's a lot more wide receivers, like valuable, like good wide receivers than good running backs. True. But you also want, I mean, if you're going to go running back first, you need a running back. TJ, we talk about this all the time, right? Pass catching.

51:37You need to be involved in the offense. I need Bajon. I need Saquon. I think Chase Brown is probably going to have a huge breakout year. He's going to be heavily involved in the passing game. You got to have guys like that. And then if you want to go touchdown heavy, then it's Derek Henry. When are you getting your quarterback? Great question. this keeps me up at night not gonna lie it keeps everyone up at night because do you go monster stud and then you got to take them early right we're talking about alan lamar uh hurts uh burrow uh jayden daniels this year that's probably your top five you got to go early you gotta spend an early pick or you wait and you go you know love stroud dak running quarterbacks maybe drake may is a sleeper this year that's that's like around eight nine ten something like that keeps me up Do you even wait?

52:22Like, do you get like a Stafford? Where are you taking Stafford? I mean, he's going to be way down there, I would imagine. Correct? I mean, he has back issues. Yeah, I think he's in that same. So no one's going to be, everyone's going to be sleeping on him. No one's going to be taking him. Do you even look at Aaron Rodgers? No. Let's say like, hey, I'm going to wait all the way down. Like, I'm just going to let everyone get a quarterback. And I'm like, well, I mean, you're going to have the 12th quarterback or 13th, 14th, 15th quarterback off the, like, do you like Tua? No. You don't like Tua when he's healthy?

52:52With a Tyreek. That's too big of a dice roll. Yeah, but I mean, if you can get a backup. Yeah, Tua backup, that's nice. Yeah, that's what I, I always wait on quarterbacks. I stock up on wide receivers, running backs. I make sure, like, I used to go Kelsey all the time in round one. And I'm thinking about Bowers now. Like, if I'm late in a first round, I might be, that's where I might be going. and then getting a nice running back on the end. But I'm debating on like Derrick Henry right now. You know, he's getting up there in age, but I've seen his training. No one has training. He had 1 ,900 yards and 16 touchdowns last year.

53:31Exactly. But how much of that does Lamar play into it? Lamar's not in a situation like Philly where he's, you know, kind of taking touchdowns away from Saquon Barkley. Saquon Barkley could have had eight more touchdowns last year. Yeah. But Hurts got him. That doesn't happen in Baltimore. Henry gets the ball on the one-yard line. I love fantasy football and I love powerless rankings and it's coming up right now after the break. We'll see you.

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