Top 5 Terry McLaurin Trade Destinations

1 Aug 2025 · 54 min · 25 chapters

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In short

Episode topic: Rich Eisen Show discusses Terry McLaurin trade destinations (a “Top 5” list), plus related NFL offseason “What’s More Likely” segments and some guest/phone-call sports talk.

Guests

No dedicated guest appears in this excerpt. It includes an interview segment with retired defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh (exit interview with Rich Eisen) and a separate “What’s More Likely” discussion with show staff (e.g., Christopher) and callers (e.g., Josh in Toronto; Aaron in Arizona). Brock Purdy is teased for a later hour.

Key claims (McLaurin)

Best destination is “stay with Washington” (not traded). If traded, top destinations listed: Chargers (No. 1), Patriots (No. 2), Bills (No. 3), Bears (No. 4), Raiders (No. 5). Rationale: cap/need fit, pairing with top QBs, and preserving the “QB growth” narrative.

Notable examples

Chargers pairing with Justin Herbert; Patriots with their “building” timeline; Bills with Josh Allen; Bears needing a true No. 1; Raiders needing a top target for Gino Smith.

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NFL Hall of Fame Game Discussion

0:33 to 1:02

Rich discusses the Hall of Fame game and previews What's More Likely Friday.

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NFL Hall of Fame Game Discussion

1:40 to 1:56

Rich discusses the Hall of Fame game and previews What's More Likely Friday.

“I'm now on TV, on radio, for the second hour of our first day of August 2025.”

Interview with Indomitian Suh

1:56 to 2:46

Rich interviews Indomitian Suh about his career and retirement.

“And after a terrific career, 13 years in the league, fresh in the books.”

Life After Retirement

2:46 to 4:19

Indomitian discusses his life post-retirement and balancing family time.

“My wife is amazing and got a lot of exciting things brewing.”

Deciding to Retire

4:19 to 6:41

Indomitian talks about his decision to retire and his father's influence.

“But honestly, I've had opportunities to go back to the NFL over the last two years.”

Raising Future Athletes?

6:41 to 7:14

Suh discusses his hopes for his sons and their future in sports.

“They will have to beg me to play football.”

Reflecting on Past Opportunities

7:14 to 9:16

Indomitian reflects on teams that reached out to him post-retirement.

“We've got family that are head coaches in the NBA and coaches all over the league that we love being in and around.”

Physical Health Post-NFL

9:16 to 10:24

Indomitian shares insights on maintaining physical health after a tough career.

“I mean, 2009, Big 12 Championship, Texas.”

Legacy and Mistakes

10:24 to 14:00

Suh addresses his reputation and how he plans to discuss it with his children.

“I mean, you played a very tough position, man.”

Flipping the Switch in Football

14:00 to 17:41

Explore the mentality shift athletes experience when competing at a high level.

“Well, I mean, the way you comport yourself and the way you live your life is completely different from that person.”
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Life After Football for Ndamukong Suh

17:41 to 18:54

Ndamukong Suh discusses his post-career plans, including podcasting and entrepreneurship.

“Man, spend a lot of time with the family.”

Ndamukong Suh's Personal Life

18:54 to 19:16

Suh shares insights into his family life while managing his career and fatherhood.

“Best dad ever, but when I'm doing some stuff, I definitely lead on the grandparents.”

Reflections on Ndamukong Suh's Career

19:16 to 20:48

Discussion about Suh's impactful moments and reputation during his NFL career.

“He's like, you know, it was a team that I played for for a long time.”

Brock Purdy's Experience with Legends

22:17 to 25:56

Brock Purdy shares his admiration for legends like Joe Montana and Steve Young.

“You know, over your right shoulder, there's Dwight Clark reaching out for a pass from Montana.”

Win-Loss Predictions for the Steelers

25:56 to 28:01

Listener predicts the Steelers' win-loss record for the upcoming season.

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Predicting Steelers' Season Record

28:01 to 29:06

Analysis of the Pittsburgh Steelers' potential performance this season.

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Fan Interactions and Predictions

29:07 to 30:15

Discussion with a caller about Steelers' predictions and schedule.

“I'd be stunned, but crazier things have happened.”

Introducing What's More Likely Segment

30:16 to 30:46

Transition to the 'What's More Likely' segment of the show.

“That means it's time for What's More Likely.”

Debating Team Predictions

30:47 to 36:31

Debate on various NFL teams and their playoff chances and performance.

“in hour number three but i i mean listen you can't read anything into last night you just can't be a single thing until last night.”

Analyzing Quarterback Scenarios

36:32 to 40:07

Discussing quarterback situations for various NFL teams and their impact.

“and now you're basically saying it's not working out again.”

Comparing College Quarterbacks

40:08 to 41:54

Discussion comparing college quarterbacks and their future prospects.

“We're fawning over at the end of this year.”

Clapping Back

42:00 to 42:13

Discussion on clapping back and personal responses.

“I will be clapping back for the rest of my life.”

Ed O'Neill's Football Stories

43:54 to 47:26

Recalling Ed O'Neill's appearances and football stories.

“there was all those guys there yeah blunt but i never you know he was defense i was defense it's like it was like the hall of fame coming to life well no it was next year really that they really got the recruiting going.”

Top Five Terry McLaurin Trade Destinations

47:26 to 51:30

Discussing the best potential trade destinations for Terry McLaurin.

“No one's going to have two receivers like that.”

Evaluating McLaurin's Future

51:30 to 54:30

Analyzing why McLaurin should remain with the Commanders.

“And, Rich, they've got this quarterback who everyone is high on, right?”
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0:28Roll out! This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook.

1:02Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show.

1:08Rich Eisen:Lions and Chargers, oh my. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles. I could make a great case that the best division in football is represented by one of those two teams on the field in Canton, Ohio. And it's Lance throwing a tough touchdown, Chargers! Earlier on the show, NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Coming up, five-time Pro Bowl defensive tackle in Dominican Sioux. 49ers quarterback, Brock Purdy. And now, it's Rich Eisen. I can confirm it by me showing up. Hello. Hour number two of the Rich Eisen Show. I'm now on TV, on radio, for the second hour of our first day of August 2025.

1:51Rich Eisen:Hall of Fame game last night. We haven't really touched on it. We shall in hour number three. It's a What's More Likely Friday. That's the centerpiece of this hour. your phone calls as well 844-204-RICH is the number to dial on the program I like conducting exit interviews of people whose careers I have covered uh from start to finish and you know I'll be honest with you knock on wood I don't know if you can hear that that's my forehead yeah um good audio my vast one I might add um I've been at this for 22 seasons there's a lot of folks and uh Tyron Matthew, we conducted an exit interview with him, the longtime defensive back in this league.

2:31Rich Eisen:And after a terrific career, 13 years in the league, fresh in the books. So let's have a fun chat exit interview, if you will, with none other than Indomitian Sue here on the Rich Eisen Show. Good to see you, Indomitian. How are you? and rich it's always a pleasure to see you and talk to you last time we were in studio but it was uh it's always fun how have you been i am i am well uh how are you let's start with you how does that sound i am great uh i'm sitting in my office in portland oregon okay spend a lot of time i'm a solo dad right now my wife is on a bachelorette party uh this weekend Okay.

3:13Rich Eisen:Okay. So congrats on your retirement. I'm out. You're in. That's the way it works. That's the way it works. I'm with you. I'm with you. Life is good, man. My twin boys are amazing. My wife is amazing and got a lot of exciting things brewing. So life is good. Well, are you moving or something like that? Because normally somebody of your stature after a career you've just posted collegiately and professionally would have more on the shelves. I'm not going to lie. What's going on over there? I am very simplistic. And yes, behind my shelves, I've got my candy jars over here. What's in them? What's in them, retiree?

3:51What's in them? What do we got? Jolly Ranchers, mints, and like these little, they call them dips or something like that. My wife likes them. But yeah, simple, man. I know I should have the shelves maxed out, but I got my whiteboard, which is confidential information. That's most important.

4:11Rich Eisen:Okay, very good. uh why'd you decide i i know you know it's been a couple years but why why did you uh were you why walk me through the the last couple years since you last played in the game which by the way was the super bowl so walk me through it and domican so super bowl i believe i was 55 or 57 excuse me uh because we won 55 uh but yeah i was with the eagles amazing game uh obviously other than losing Magic Mahomes came back and had to make history, for lack of better words. But honestly, I've had opportunities to go back to the NFL over the last two years. I've had multiple teams reach out, and it just didn't make sense to me.

4:56Leaving my boys, leaving my wife, being gone for 10 hours of the day, people don't understand the grind of what that goes through. It was really just something that I didn't really have interest in going back and doing. And then obviously through that process, one of the main reasons why I decided to make my announcement on July 12th was because I lost my dad on July 12th, 2024. And he had asked me many, many times to retire, spend time with him and with my family and boys. And so that was the reason why I chose that date, because I originally wasn't planning on ever announcing it. So that was the genesis in paying homage to my father from that perspective.

5:36uh and i love my mom to death and she's a huge part of my life as well uh but she's i get to talk to her thankfully every single day so um yeah tough times but it was it was it was very refreshing to be able to share with the world to say the least right and so obviously you were able

5:53Rich Eisen:to share time with your dad then before his passing what you're saying yeah it was um yeah a lot of time with him and seeing the debilitating situation he had to deal with was very tough but I wanted to be there by his side. And football, as he said many times, you've accomplished everything. And I know you want a second ring because you want your boys to have to share one. But unfortunately, they will share one. And they'll have to go get their own rings. That's it. That's right, for sure. How old are they, your boys? My boys are twins that are four years old. They don't look like they're four.

6:26They're four feet tall. And Kingston's 55 pounds the last time he weighed in. Kari's a skinny big guy. He's about 50-ish pounds. Their mom's six foot, and I'm no small guy.

6:41Rich Eisen:I'm aware of that. So you're raising interior linemen? Is that what you're saying? Absolutely not. My boys were not. They will have to beg me to play football. Why is that? Man, I think you know this. I've obviously been around so many greats. You just have to have a mentality and a grind to you and just you got to be a little bit off to play football in a positive manner. And not saying my boys don't have that and won't have that in their future, but it's not something I'm going to push on them by any means. And then selfishly, we love basketball. We've got family that are head coaches in the NBA and coaches all over the league that we love being in and around.

7:22They love the game. And I love soccer. I grew up around it. My dad would be exilated if they were soccer players and played in the EPL and whatnot. And ultimately, it's their decision. But I think they would have to beg me to go play football. So that's just kind of my view right now.

7:39Rich Eisen:Do you want to throw out the teams that did reach out to you last couple of years? Rich, you are amazing, but I'm going to keep that one in house. Understood. Hey, listen, you miss 100 % of the questions you don't ask, right? I'll give you this. Okay. Not this past year. Well, I'll lay to you out this. 23, 22, or yeah, the last two seasons, the first prior season, so two years ago. Yes, sir. One of the teams were in the Super Bowl, and I should have been with them in that Super Bowl. Then last year, one of the teams had a very long-standing run, and I previously played for them. Okay. Just looking at this.

8:22Rich Eisen:All right. Previous long run. Previously played for them. Tampa. I mean, they've been on a nice run in division. The Rams you played for for a year, Philadelphia. I'm crowdsourcing it, you know what I mean? Interesting. Hey, but listen, that means obviously you're in demand and you're somebody that was doing something. How long did it take you, I guess, to turn the page? Your last game was the Super Bowl, that loss to the Chiefs when you were with the Eagles and a lot of conversation about a defensive hold that really shouldn't have been called. and it really did take away a chance for Jalen Hurts to match whatever was clearly going to be put on the board, whether it was a field goal or a touchdown by the Chiefs.

9:07Rich Eisen:How long did it take you to get over that and then decide that I'm not playing after all that? I mean, what do you think? I don't think you ever get over it. I mean, I'll give you this example. I mean, 2009, Big 12 Championship, Texas. If anybody remembers that, I'm not over that by any means. I should have been a champion with my team in Nebraska. So I don't think you ever get over those things. I think ultimately you internalize them, understand them, use them as fuel and fire and kind of go from there. But it's something that is definitely not difficult. But ultimately, things don't change.

9:46It aren't going to change. And you've got to continue to push forward from that perspective. And I mean, ultimately. It's a game. So you live to fight another day. And for me, regardless of that, retirement for anybody is tough. And I was very fortunate enough. I got to leave on my own terms versus in certain situations. I've only been cut once in my life in pro sports. And that coach made that decision for God knows what reason. But ultimately, I sit in a great place where I got to walk away from the game on my terms, where a lot of people don't get that. So I'm very thankful for that side of things.

10:23Rich Eisen:And how are you physically walking? I mean, you played a very tough position, man. Like, what do you think? Are you feeling good? I feel great. I mean, my ultimate goal is to never have to get knee replacements or anything that's serious of that nature. And I still have my performance team until this day and will continue for many, many decades to come. It's one thing I talked about on my podcast and in an episode that will come out soon, of just about building a performance team in and around you. I think it's very important. I would love to help young professionals and young athletes, let alone as individuals, but also teams, look into this.

10:59Great research and the modalities of being able to be successful in and around that. I would put my team that I've had up against anybody, and I think proof is in the pudding. There's obviously luck in it, but I never miss a game due to injury.

11:11Rich Eisen:Now, I know you're being private and coy as well by not naming the teams that reached out to you. I kind of feel silly for not even mentioning the Lions, who had to have been that one. I mean, they were so, you know, they were getting crushed on injuries, and you played for the Lions, the first team in the league. Yeah. Did I finally sleuth one out here in Dominican? You might have. I'll say this. There was a member of that organization that really wanted me to come in last year, and he's no longer with that organization because he became a D.C. recently and loved him to death, and he deserves to continue to grow in the game of the NFL and the game of football, and he should be a head coach here soon.

11:56But ultimately, yeah, it would have been great to be able to retire as a Ryan and play a couple of downs for them and hopefully add some value to win a championship or push them further in the playoffs because they definitely needed help on the defensive side of the ball. They were decimated at the end of the year.

12:13Rich Eisen:You got a good story with Tom Brady being a teammate with him, winning a Super Bowl with him in Dominick and Sue? I mean, Tom and I hit it off. It's surprising that a crazy defensive guy like me and a well-oiled machine in Tom Brady took a liking to each other. But, I mean, I think we always had mutual respect for each other throughout the times that we played against each other. Through my Detroit days, especially my time in Miami when we played twice a year against each other. So no specific story, but I mean, me and Tom, I mean, it was fun to be able to win a championship together and really kind of be the helms of each side, him on offense, myself on defense, alongside Levante, David, and guys like that.

12:55Rich Eisen:And Domican, I'm going to go here with you on this front. And I've always been able to have honest conversations with you. How's that for a windup? What are the names of your boys, Domican? Kingston and Corey. All right. Kingston and Corey. Is that what you said? Kari. Kari. Okay. So one day they're going to be able to Google dad. Okay. Yeah. I'm, I'm, my kids are now the age of Googling me and asking me questions. What would you tell those boys if they ever come up to you and say, dad, why were you voted the most dirty player and least liked player in the NFL by your peers? How will you answer that question one day in Dominican?

13:33I've never thought about that, but it's a great question. And I think for my boys, if I were to answer that question now, and it depends on obviously the context and those different things, I would just say, man, everybody makes mistakes. And did I let that define me as a human and my character and let alone my play? Absolutely not. And you'll make mistakes in life no different than any other human that played sports or didn't play sports. And so just don't let those mistakes define you and stay true to your character.

14:04Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, the way you comport yourself and the way you live your life is completely different from that person. Did you flip a switch? Did something happen? Do you need to have that in order to play the level that you played at in Dominican? Yeah, I think, yes. And I disagree with coaches, especially when they say, hey, you can't just flip a switch and go on the football field and be successful in those different things. And I disagree with that. You for sure flip a switch when you get between those wiped lines because your mentality and your focus, and I, like Steven Jackson, like close friend, he was a quarterback, played for the St.

14:40Louis Rams. I told him and he told me, guess what? We are not friends between these white lines. You're wearing a different colored jersey. I'm by no means trying to hurt you, but I'm going to impose my will against you because you're trying to beat me and I'm trying to beat you. And that's just part of the game. And so as you understand those different things and understand that competition level and you elite, that's just the way of the game. All right.

15:05Rich Eisen:I mean, I remember Brian Dawkins, you know, the Hall of Famer, and I'm imagining he might be in Canton this weekend celebrating. He would call himself the idiot man that he would put on the eye black and he'd be a different person. He would transform, you know, and go out on the field. And sometimes you need to do that. And Steven Jackson's a sweetheart. Like, you ever meet him, he's just one of the nicest guys. So of all the people for you to choose and just say, he would bow up at me, meaning you, your size and say that to you. It just gives you a sense of the competition and what you need to work yourself into.

15:43And if you go back to flipping the switch, I look at it like this. And I know coaches are saying it from the context of saying, hey, you can't just turn it on and off because I want you to practice hard and I want you to do these different things. Well, guess what? For my type of talent and the type of talent that you see as generational and cornerstone of your team and all these different things, If I'm running at a thousand miles per hour in full throttle in practice, guess what? Somebody's getting hurt. And that is not, you have to have the tools and understanding of the play and practice at a high level, but you take it up two or three notches when you're on that football field and it's live bullets for life.

16:22Rich Eisen:A couple of minutes I have left with you in Dominic and Sue, who's the best at this position in the league today that you're going to turn on and go okay that guy's got it who was that guy and domic i think there's a lot of good guys out there uh but if i had to hone into one guy that i really enjoyed watching especially working with sky sports and being uh a part of their analysts and uh analyst team i got i'd be remiss not to say jesse matabike uh with the i really like the way he's been able to come into form over the last couple years and I got a lot of respect for what he's built um I mean yeah I have to go with Justin right now yeah I was gonna I was thinking if I oh Jalen Carter would be one that you'd throw out there too no I like Jalen and I and I wish I got a chance to play with him but I still he's raw um and everything that I've heard well that's scary I'll be honest that's pretty scary that He's raw.

17:23He's very raw at raw talent right now. Right. And I think he's still figuring out how to play the game and within those different schemes. And really, I don't think he's just scratching the surface. So I would say the top of their game right now, that's why I picked Justin.

17:40Rich Eisen:Okay. So what's next? Lay out the plan for Ndamukong Suhir. Man, spend a lot of time with the family. I've got my No Free Lunch podcast with the New York Times and The Athletic, which I just recently launched at the beginning of this last month. As I mentioned, Sky Sports and man, entrepreneurship has never gone anywhere. I've always been building for retirement since I really got into the league. My first and second year and I have a lot of energy and time now, but I want to take all my time and focus on it. but I definitely real estate development, all these different things is very exciting to me.

18:20Rich Eisen:Okay. However you want to be involved with this show, I'll take you, whatever you want to do. Seriously, I'm here. No. And we'll chop it up. Yeah, you've always been one of the best, man. Thank you. A lot to learn from you and look forward to staying connected. I appreciate that. Have your boys destroyed the house during this conversation? What's happening? What's happening? I mentioned I am solo dadding, but I do have a cheat code. My mother-in-law and my mom are with my boys right now. Excellent. Grandma. Good to know. Best dad ever, but when I'm doing some stuff, I definitely lead on the grandparents.

19:02Rich Eisen:Okay, very good. Good to know. Have a great weekend with your kids and enjoy time with your fam, and let's stay in touch, please. No, sure. We'll do it. Talk soon. That's a Super Bowl champion and a 13-year vet. And Dominick and Sue here on the Rich Eisen Show, a great fun exit interview right there. What a legend. I'm like sitting there. He's like, you know, it was a team that I played for for a long time. So, of course, I'm looking at the last few years of his career, and I'm like, oh, duh. Detroit's been on a pretty damn good run, too. With all the injuries. Why wouldn't they call him? Right.

19:34Rich Eisen:Makes perfect sense. Why wouldn't they reach out to him? Due diligence, right? Hell, yeah. You know? So Rich, you talk about flipping the switch. Like, that mild-mannered, well-spoken, just very nice man. Me old Kerr. You would not understand if you didn't know that that was one. That dude was a monster. The baddest dude. He was a monster on that field. Yeah, first four seasons of his career, he was fined$216 ,000 by the league for four separate on-field violations. Sporting News named him the fellow players dirtiest player in the NFL, least liked player in a Forbes poll. And we've met him. He's very likable.

20:17Rich Eisen:He's been here. Yeah. I know. He was great. I remember covering him. I remember covering him back in the day and won the NFC Championship for the Rams, played in the Super Bowl with them, lost to the Patriots, played in the Super Bowl with the Bucs, beat the Chiefs, and then he tried to beat the Chiefs a second time with the Eagles. Lost that one. That was his last game of his career. Over. 844-204-RICH, number to dial, phone calls. What's more likely Friday, Brock Purdy, Hour 3.

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22:16Rich Eisen:Over your left shoulder, I couldn't help but notice there's Montana. You know, over your right shoulder, there's Dwight Clark reaching out for a pass from Montana. Have you spoken to Montana? You got any relationship with him at all, Brock? A little bit. I spoke to him actually at the Super Bowl event. It was the first time I saw him. The last time he was in, I think, Santa Clara. He was here for the Chiefs game last year. I wasn't playing at the time, so I didn't really have an opportunity to talk to him. But when I have talked to him, he's been nothing but great. He's supported this team and how I've played and stuff.

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22:52Rich Eisen:And so just to be able to hear him sort of show some gratitude and stuff for me, it's like, dude, that is a legend. That's the guy. That's the guy. You know, when you look at the 49er logo, that's who you think of. So what an honor. And what about Young? What about Steve Young? Yeah, he's been around too. Spoke to him the Sunday night game, actually. He was on the field for a little bit. And how, you know, he's very, just really nice about everything. He's like, dude, how you've handled everything and your decision making and your process. And he goes, I want to sit down and talk to you more about it.

23:22So just to know that, you know, he has our back too. That's awesome, man. It's like a dream too. But what an honor for both of those guys to love what we're doing.

23:30Rich Eisen:In a few minutes I have left with you, how do you respond to those who say you're just a product of the system there, the coach and the guys around you? And all you're doing is basically rolling the balls out and not making mistakes. How do you respond to that, Brock? Man, I would just say, you know, I don't really care in a sense. You know, I just want to win. I want to help this team win. People can say what they want. That's cool. I just want to help his team win and reach our goals. And then we'll see at the end of all this if that's true or not. Brock Purdy's latest appearance on this program coming up in hour number three.

24:08Rich Eisen:Check out all of his previous appearances and all of our show every single day. Josh in Toronto in Canada. I've heard of that country. What's going on, Josh? Hey, Rich. How are you doing? How are you, sir? I'm doing well. I'd be remiss if I didn't start with the little Toronto Blue Jays talk. We're at the top of the AL East for the first time in a long time. I'll tell you what, we love our Blue Jays out here in Toronto. You should be happy. I think they made some nice moves. Is Shane Bieber's healthy? I mean, what, guys, am I wrong? I mean, what an ad. You're adding a Cy Young Award winner. Huge, huge ad to that team.

24:45I like it, too, because we didn't sell the farm for them, you know, and if it works out, then we strike gold, right? So, yeah, anyways, I think your Yankees did some good things. I mean, Brockman's Red Sox were a little quiet, but I think the Yankees bolted up their bullpen. It should be a fun race for the AL East here to finish off.

25:05Rich Eisen:Yeah, we shall see. The Red Sox are definitely in the mix. The Yankees won three in a row from Tampa, which definitely that's a blow for them. And, again, I sometimes wish the Yankees played like Toronto, where you string together extra base hits and leg things out. And, you know, it's not all waiting for that solo shot, two-run home run type thing. But the Yanks did definitely bolster their bullpen, which is the way we were talking about at the end of the last show with, you know, TJ's Mets and the Padres and loading up on the bullpen. That's what you do because the analytics people will just start chiming in and most managers will just start getting itchy when you're third time through the order.

25:52Rich Eisen:And sometimes that happens in the fifth, sixth inning and you need four or five arms to get you through the rest of the day. And then you got to play again the next day and do it again. And so it's really a bullpen sport, it feels like right now. So that's what the Yankees did. Thanks for the call. That's Josh in Toronto here talking a little baseball. Yeah, Yankee Sox in the wildcard right now along with Seattle, Texas one game back. I know I keep mentioning this, but... the Devers trade worked out for the Red Sox. And we haven't, have we even seen who they, who they got from the Giants? I mean, right.

26:25Rich Eisen:That's for Jordan. Jordan Hicks has been out there in the pen. You know, he throws pretty hard. Haven't seen any other guys. One of the dudes, Tibbs that they got, they sent to the Dodgers and the Dustin May deal. Okay. That's right. You got Dustin May. Yeah. Let's go to Aaron in Arizona. You're on the Rich Eisen show. What's up, Aaron? Hi, I'm Rich. Hi, guys. First time, long time. Hey. How are you doing? I know where you've been. You're in Arizona, but I guess figuratively, where you've been? What's going on? Not much. I want to do the win-loss for the Steelers. Oh. Okay. I mean, the terrible towels are all over the country.

27:06Rich Eisen:So you're there in Arizona. Wow, that's just the second person to do the win-loss game for the Steelers. And they're in Arizona. Aaron, you ready? Love it. Yes. What happens when Rodgers revisits his old stomping grounds against the Jets week one? We win. That's 1-0. Home for the Seahawks when DK Metcalf sees his old team. That's a win. That's 2-0 at the Patriots. Win. The Roonies and the Steelers in Ireland, Dublin against the Vikings. We're going to win that one, too. That's a 4-0 start, Aaron, in Arizona. is predicting the Steelers come out of the bye 4-0 home for the Browns. Another win. That's 5-0.

27:49Rich Eisen:At the Bengals short week Thursday night. That's a loss. Alright, now it comes crashing down. We'll see how it's crashing. Rogers home for the Packers now. What's happening? I'm going to go with the win. Okay, that's 6-1. Very cheery. Home for the Colts. Another win. 7-1. 7-1 at the Chargers. I'm iffy on this one. You guys said it the other day that they could get him, so I'm going to go win. Okay. That's now 8-1, home for the Bengals. That's a win. 9-1 at the Bears. Another win. 10-1, home for the Bills. Lost. 10-2 at the Ravens. Lost. 10-3, home for the Dolphins on a Monday night. I'm hoping for a win.

28:41Rich Eisen:11-3 at the Lions. Lost. 11-4 at the Browns. That's a win. 12-4. Home for the Ravens. I'm going to go out on a positive. Being overly positive. I wouldn't say you're going out on a positive. I was saying you're going the whole time on a positive. That's impressive. 13-4. Erin in Arizona. Okay. Woo-hoo! Are you waving a towel right now? Pretty much. Thanks for the call. Let's hear more from you. First time, long time, 13-4. Guys, 13-4 for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'd be stunned, but crazier things have happened. I know you think that they're... I mean, the schedule's tough, but to start... The Jets, it's a winnable game based on, obviously, last year's results if you want to play them.

29:38Rich Eisen:home for the Seahawks at the Patriots and then man the Vikings against the Steelers in Dublin is just going to be an insane environment. Yeah. And a home game I'd imagine for the Steelers. I know the skull is all over. Scandinavia is a little further east. But the Roonies I mean that's what that Steelers country one would think. 4-0 is possible. It's entirely possible. Over 12.5 wins for Pittsburgh plus 850. Well, Erin's plussing it up. If you're looking to. Or some people might think she's TJ plussing it up. Get in on it. 844-204-RICH, number to dial. It's a Friday. That means it's time for What's More Likely.

30:17Rich Eisen:Hit it. What? What's more likely? Never say never, but never. All right. What do you have over there, Christopher? Happy Friday. Let's do it. We had football last night. We did. Crazy. We're back. More likely Hall of Fame team you like to go further this year. chargers or lions and i'll go recency bias and i'll go chargers like trey lance last night well we'll talk about that a little yes i did number one um i sure did and we'll talk more about that in hour number three but i i mean listen you can't read anything into last night you just can't be a single thing until last night. 0.0. Except the flashes of plays from kids that you know, that are going to make the most of their opportunity and in all honesty, the most lingering thing to potentially come out of last night could be this new virtual first down stuff.

31:21Rich Eisen:Yep. But as Don Van Nadeau pointed out, you're still relying on human error to spot it and now you're just kind of taking away the chain issue. I don't know. I mean, it's GPS. It's just like picking a spot out of thin air. Well, it's still a human to put it down on the ground. Yeah, and it's still Josh Allen. Oh, where was he? I don't know. Was he six? No, I see what you're saying. We'll talk about that a little bit more in hour three, but I'll just take the Chargers, man. They're the ones who kept their staff together. They're the ones who are, you know, I just have that in my gut. but I understand why people would be like, I'm out of my mind.

32:01Rich Eisen:Dan Campbell's still Dan Campbell, and the Lions are coming back healthy. I'll just choose the Chargers, even though both are very difficult divisions. What else you got, Christopher? More likely, I wrote this last night before any of the issues this morning popped up in Oxnard. And you refused to change? You refused to change. I'm not changing it because it's still the same. More likely to be suited up and playing week one for their current employer, Terry McLaurin, Micah Parsons, Trey Hendrickson. You're not going to like my answer. You have to actually answer. You can't just say, they're all going to be there week one.

32:34Rich Eisen:Because that's not likely. Terry McLaurin. And it is likely. All three are in week one. That's how I started the show. In the same way that you won't change it because that's the way it is. McLaurin. Micah's going to be in Philadelphia chasing Jalen Hurts. And then McLaurin is going to be at home against the Giants. trying to do what he did last year again, and Trey Hendrickson's going to be gunning for, I believe, Joe Flacco week one in Cleveland, and they'll all have their new deals, and they'll all be in some form of happiness, one would think. And that's it. But if I have to choose one over the other, I'd go McLaurin, and I know he's the only one who's demanded a trade, but they cannot do that.

33:18Rich Eisen:it would be malpractice is the only way to put it mind-boggling that you're not gonna get the big target bff for your unicorn in year two and just well jane you'll just have to make do while we handle business you just find the number get it done what else you got over there chris we've been talking a lot about these two teams and we're going to talk to one of their quarterbacks next hour. West division team. That's a little too overhyped heading into the preseason. Broncos are 49ers. Are the Niners overhyped? Their win total is 10 and a half. Okay. I mean, I guess everyone's just penciled them in for the playoffs because they're going to be healthy.

34:03Rich Eisen:They got an easy schedule. I don't think they're being overhyped at all. So if I have to choose it, I have to choose Denver, but I think they're being hyped appropriately. I think you could see what's being cooked there. And again, just because their defense might be the first fantasy option chosen off the team, unless you want to go grab Bo Nix and think that he'll be your fantasy quarterback, that doesn't mean that they're not a stout Super Bowl contending team. so yeah I think they're being hyped appropriately but I'd have to choose the Broncos because I don't think the Niners are being hyped at all I think they're being completely overlooked and I will ask that of Brock Purdy in hour three what else?

34:57Rich Eisen:Overlooked? I don't think they're being overlooked. Well I think they are I mean maybe just Vegas is not but the rest of the media is definitely not talking about them as a contender in the Super Bowl at all you know juan jennings banged up when is iu coming back is mcafree going to be healthy same thing with trent williams what's going on with the defense they got a lot of green people there they do have solid back what's going on is purdy going to play up to the the worthiness of his contract i just gave you literally most of the questions about the niners right now and none of them are like well you're sleeping on that giant they're pretty damn good they're the favorites to win their division uh that one i don't get that's disrespectful to the rams more than the niners being overhyped.

35:38Rich Eisen:I mean, really? What else you got over there, Chris? These next couple are based on some Thursday preseason matchups next week, which won't get into Friday's what's more likely next week. Make sense? What else? I was just asking if that made sense to me. No, you lost me literally during that whole soliloquy. I don't know what it was about. You're teasing next week's segment today. I don't understand it. No, I'm teasing some Thursday preseason games next week. Okay, thank you. Is it more likely the Ravens make the Super Bowl or the Colts make the playoffs? I'll go Ravens reach the Super Bowl. I mean, I don't know who's playing quarterback for the Colts.

36:17Rich Eisen:They play each other on Thursday. I appreciate you lining that up. I have no idea who's playing quarterback for the Colts. You don't think it's going to end up being Anthony Richardson? No. I still think it'll be Daniel Jones because you can always go to Richardson second. You bench Richardson in the middle of the season. and now you're basically saying it's not working out again. Even though you could basically, because you can make the case, hey, Richardson was behind the eight ball physically, still love the kid. Let's see what Daniel Jones can do. I think that's what the option is going to be eventually.

36:48Rich Eisen:We'll see. But for a team that has potential quarterback issues, them missing the playoffs wouldn't bat an eye for me, certainly if I think multiple teams could make it from multiple divisions, including three from one. So Ravens reaching the Super Bowl, I mean, that's as reasonable as a thought as anything else. Chris, what else? Wide receiver duo you like this year to combine for more touchdowns. Jaden Daniels and Terry McLaurin. Wide receiver duo. Oh, okay. I thought a quarterback and wide receiver duo. Okay. Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith. Bengals-Eagles next Thursday in the preseason.

37:31Rich Eisen:I'll go Chase and Higgins, although let's not forget about, because again, Saquon's in a spot, and Jalen Hurts gets pushed in the end zone for a ton of touchdowns too. True. So there's only a few touchdowns to go around. So I will say the receivers will have less when Saquon and Hurts have more. That said, I know you don't like me talking about him publicly like this because you think you're going to steal him in some fantasy draft, but Chase Brown, Zach Moss got released. Yes. And Zach Moss is the reason why Chase Brown's season didn't start early enough last year. Chase Brown's season starts week one.

38:08Rich Eisen:Chase Brown's going to be a top 10 running back this year. And so Chase Brown's going to have some touchdowns too. Jamar isn't the only Chase that's going to be scoring. But I'll still take Chase and Higgins because it's just Burrow flinging it up to him. In a way that, you know, I don't know how much Chase Brown's going to vulture from those guys, but I'm going to say Saquon and Jalen Hurts will vulture touchdowns. What else? That seems kind of safe. Okay. I just thought it out. How about this one? More likely Pete Carroll team to have a better shot at making the playoffs this year. His new team, the Raiders, or his old team, the Seahawks.

38:47Rich Eisen:They play next Thursday. Interesting. Interesting. Man. Both sleeper potential teams. I would think so. I would think so.

39:00Rich Eisen:great questions man I don't know why I'm just sitting thinking Seahawks I just need to I don't know they're playing a division that you finish second you might make the playoffs in it the Raiders are just in a very very deep end of a pool I'm very excited to see what they do this year very excited to see what they do this year but you're putting me on the spot here I'll go with Sam Darnold in Seattle there but the Raiders I'm not falling asleep on them. I'm not saying they have no chance. You ask me what's more likely one or the other. You want to chime in here TJ? Pete Carroll team with the better shot making the playoffs.

39:42That's so funny because pre-show this was our discussion. I'm going to go with the Raiders.

39:47Rich Eisen:Okay. I know I told you before. I know I told you I wasn't sure. Oh man. I gotta go Seattle. I think the Matt Stafford stuff is lingering just enough to give me pause that they could maybe sneak into that two spot in the NFC West. That's a shame. All right, last one. More likely, NFC North quarterback. We're fawning over at the end of this year. Season plays out, and we're just in love with this guy. Please. Heading into the summer, J.J. McCarthy, Caleb Williams. You're really going to ask me this question? Well, one guy we've seen play an awesome year of his football rookie season, and the other guy we have not.

40:29Yeah.

40:30Rich Eisen:I'll go J.J. McCarthy. You're fawning all over him already every single time you meet him. I haven't watched him play football. Okay, I have. You watched him hand off a bunch? Okay. He looks great. He looks great doing this. Okay. Come on, man. He'll be disrespectful. He found Roman Wilson multiple times in the Rose Bowl to take care of Nick Saban, which turned out to be his final game of his career. He found a couple guys in something called the National Championship game against Washington. He also found a couple guys in the horseshoe the first time he stepped in there. All right? You know he's sensitive to this type of Chris.

41:06Rich Eisen:By the way, in a game where Jack Sawyer was like, we ran a play and tight end. We ran a tight end screen in a spot where we never ran it. We never ran this thing, and they sniffed it out. That's because you need the players, though. It's kind of weird. It's kind of weird that it would happen. Oh, by the way, when Michigan sniffed it out, we were losing at that point in time. after they scored to start the game on a 12-play drive to go up 7-0 when nobody was talking about plays and who knew what. That still hurts, doesn't it? For Ohio State. Because they lost, giving up 45 in their own house. I meant you.

41:43Rich Eisen:No, I just see it. I'm just on Cam Hayward's pod. I'm like, come on, Cam. 844-204-RICH. Good stuff, by the way. Good stuff. Out of you. What's more likely? I'm going to clap back about that or I'll just leave it alone. It ain't going to be the latter. It's not going to be the latter. Correct. I will be clapping back for the rest of my life. Would you start doing this? I'll do whatever you'd like. Yeah.

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43:29Rich Eisen:A bad hire costs time and money, but the right one helps your business grow. The challenge, finding that person without sorting through resumes. That's where LinkedIn Hiring Pro comes in. It screens candidates so you can focus on conversations with qualified talent. With Hiring pro you can hire with confidence and build the team you need join the 2.7 million small businesses using linkedin to hire get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash eisen terms and conditions apply when you showed up in steelers training camp who was was mean joke there was all those guys there yeah blunt but i never you know he was defense i was defense it's like it was like the hall of fame coming to life well no it was next year really that they really got the recruiting going.

44:14Rich Eisen:Okay. You know, that was all the guys that made it to those Super Bowl teams. Are you saying you were the dead weighters? I think I might have been dead weight, yeah. How did Chuck Knoll cut you? What did he say to you? He called me in, you know. I went into the office and brought my playbook so I knew I was going. And he couldn't have been nicer, by the way. And, you know, he was complimentary. You know, he said, you know, look, you're a tough kid, but, you know, you're trying to learn the position. I had never played. We didn't have outside linebacker in the college I played for. So it was the only position I reasonably could have played, and I just didn't have time.

44:49He said, look, it's my first year too. So he said, I can get you down with the Eagles. The Eagles were desperate. And that would have gone a rental car straight down 80. And he said, but it's got to be, you've got to tell me right now. And I said, I'm done. You knew that you didn't want to go play for the Eagles? No. Why? I don't know. It was a spur of the moment. I had knee problems. And I was, to be honest, I was sick of football.

45:16Rich Eisen:Who was the best football player that you ever lined up with or against? Roger Staubach. When did you play against him? I played against Roger Staubach when I was at Youngstown State University, and he was at Pensacola Naval Station doing his six-year bit. Wait a minute. This is a great story, right? Yeah. You know, they do that. He graduated from Annapolis, won the Heisman, went down there, and played football for six years. You're playing against the Pensacola— Naval Station. Naval Station. Yeah. And then out trots Roger Staubach? Yeah. That's not fair. He was their quarterback. That's not fair.

45:55Rich Eisen:And these were high-scoring, close games. Did you rush him? Did you get him? Did you take him down? I tell you the truth. I rushed him. I got a hold of him. I spun around one time on his leg and he just kept wiggling his leg free and then he threw a touchdown pass. I hit him illegally out of bounds once and got a 15-yard penalty. And they had a guy, their middle linebacker was a guy named Lynch who was a naval boxing champion. Yeah. Who I think his brothers played, one of his brothers played for Kansas City. Okay. The Lynch brothers. Sure. And he wanted to kill me, you know, because they loved Roger.

46:31Rich Eisen:Of course. So you almost started a brawl by hitting Roger Staubach out of bounds? Yeah, I was just so tired of chasing him. And, you know, he just stepped out of bounds. And I thought, no, I've been running 25 yards now, you know. Yeah. 15 yards on Ed O 'Neill. Oh, yeah. All of Ed O 'Neill's fantastic appearances on the Rich Eisen Show. He's been here multiple times. One of our favorite guests can be seen on our YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show. I mean, he went down memory lane on pretty much everything, some great modern family stories. And then one of our favorites is when he told us how he became Al Bundy.

47:11Rich Eisen:From Mice and Men. Yeah, he was performing a serious play of Mice and Men, and somebody says he can be Al, and everybody else who was auditioning for Al played him big, like Ralph Cramden in The Honeymooners, and instead he played him resigned like one of his uncles. like come home like hey you know what's that line you said like hey you know the dog the dog what's for dinner dinner and he and he just morphed into al bundy off the bat it was one of our favorite moments of it in the history of the program awesome back on the rich eyes and show radio network i have a top five list guys hey i have a top five list now whenever we normally do a top five list for somebody like destinations for terry mclaurin we have fun like it's your team your team, your team, your team, your team.

47:56Rich Eisen:But this time around, we're going to treat this seriously and seriously enough where I'm not going to just, clearly it could be any team would be better for having Terry McLaurin, but you can't have already on your team somebody who's making$30 million a year at the position. No one's going to have two receivers like that. The Bengals are a rare exception, right? And the Eagles got in early so they can have A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith at the position. Oh, you mean their GM did something right? Look at you. Top five Terry McLaurin destinations. High five. One, two, three, four, five. Rich's top five.

48:27Rich Eisen:All right, if the commanders are going to go so nuts to actually trade this guy, it's most likely going to be to the AFC as well. So you're going to notice a lot of teams that have something in common. First up on this list are the Raiders. They could use Terry McLaurin in the worst possible way, right? I mean, they could, and it would be great. Gino Smith throwing to this guy in the same way like they would throw to DK Metcalf, right? Like, let's go. him and Bowers and Ashton Gentry could you imagine if the Raiders pulled this thing off and on the outset of the season certainly people in Vegas would improve some odds on the spot that would be great I think McLaurin and Silver and Black would be unbelievable number four the only NFC team on this list they'd have to really come correct but why wouldn't the Bears go ahead and do something like this well you know bring McLaurin there I mean, I know they got DJ Moore and they've got Roma Dunze.

49:23Rich Eisen:That's it right there. They'd have to send a receiver back. Maybe. But why not bring him in and hook him up and say, hey, do for our first overall pick last year what you did for the second overall pick last year. That's number four. Number three on the list. It's time. And I know they did so well last year with this being the narrative of who is the number one guy there. Why wouldn't the Bills go ahead and give this a shot? Let's bring McClure into Buffalo. Hook him up with Josh. He don't want that, I'm telling you right now. Who? Your boy right there, Brockman. I understand that. Just made him want to throw up.

50:01Rich Eisen:Well, I'll be happy. I'll make him happier. Number two on the list is the Patriots. Oh, yeah. You know, bring him there. I don't know how terribly happy he would be to go to a spot where it would be building. You know, like he was one game shy of the Super Bowl last year. And the idea is now not to be multiple games shy of the Super Bowl last year, building towards something, but they certainly can pay him. They can pay him. Number one cap space. And number one on the list is the Los Angeles Chargers. I know they got Quentin Johnson in this spot, but maybe he can get in that room and teach him how to hold on to the ball a little bit.

50:37Rich Eisen:And him and Ladidi, Mick Conkay. That's interesting. Ladidi, Mick Conkay. Could you imagine him out here for Justin Herbert? I feel like Quentin Johnson would be in a trade. Maybe. Back to Washington. We could see. I don't know. I don't know. But they're number one on the list. And go ahead. Give it to me. We have one more. I did not know this. We wrap this up with the main point. The commanders, what are we doing here? We're talking about the best destination for Terry McLaurin is to not have him leave. Destination stays like before. That wraps up our number two. Your phone calls. And my guy, Brock Purdy, coming up our three.

51:21Rich Eisen:You know what I mean? Like, sometimes it's just the simple answer is. The simple answer. The best destination is where he already is. Jaden Daniels, we've seen it happen. We know what it looks like. And, Rich, they've got this quarterback who everyone is high on, right? Why are you going to stunt his growth by taking away his top target? hurting the quarterback by doing that, right? What has been the holdup? What are we waiting for? I imagine he made his salary demands months ago. I don't know what it is. I don't know. There is a number. The number exists. They just have to seek and find it and work and drill down.

52:03Rich Eisen:And consider today midnight. Today's midnight. That's it. Today is midnight. And if it's not midnight, then tomorrow can be midnight but let's treat it as if it is yeah instead of having it hanging over man yeah hanging over but again we don't know what if you're adam peters and he comes in and says i want to be the highest paid in the league oh well right now now there's a standoff right wouldn't you say that especially at third way he'll be or 30 30 yeah again i've got to hear He turns 30 I should know this off the top On the same day of my mom's birthday 9-15 Eveline Eisen and Terry McLaurin Share a birthday and outside of that I don't know what else they have in common I'm sure if we did a deep dive They make those around them better True They're very likable Thank you for that I appreciate that Withstood hardships early in their careers.

53:09Rich Eisen:Does Terry play the piano? My mom does. Good with kids? Good with kids? What else? Does Terry have a Sandy Koufax connection? Why do you keep going back to that? My mom dated Sandy Koufax maybe once. Really? Where have you been? I'm not here every day. She went to the same club. No, DJ's like go-to. They grew up in the same Brooklyn Hamlet, you know, and I think they were at some sort of sock hop together at some point, and everybody knew who Sandy Koufax was, and he keeps on thinking that my name could be Rich Koufax, and he keeps going there, and it pisses me off. I haven't done that in like four years.

53:51Rich Eisen:It's so disrespectful. It's been four years since I've last made the show. That's your man right there. I know. That's your man. We had a Rich Koufax show drop, and I know I didn't do that. No, that wasn't me. So. I'm just saying. What are you saying? Thank God we're out of time. Hour three coming up.

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