In short
Rich Eisen’s “top five NFL X-factors we should be noticing more,” plus a guest interview with Paralympian Ezra Freck about his path to gold, his documentary Adaptive, and upcoming goals.
Guests (and backgrounds)
- Ezra Freck: Gold medalist Paralympian (high jump/100m events referenced), born with congenital limb differences; had a 15-hour surgery around age 3 with a toe-to-hand transplant; competed at Tokyo 2020 (5th in high jump) and won gold at Paris 2024; signed with Adidas; featured in Peacock doc Adaptive.
- Tom Pelissero (mentioned): NFL Network insider.
- Andrew Hawkins (mentioned): former NFL player (six-year veteran).
- Other guests are referenced as upcoming studio visitors (The Miz, O’Shea Jackson Jr.) but not interviewed here.
Key claims
- Giants’ defensive front (Burns, Lawrence, Thibodeau, Okereke, Nunez-Roches, Abdul Carter) is a major X-factor.
- Packers’ wide receiver room is an under-discussed X-factor.
- Bengals’ “fully paid” Burrow/Chase/Higgins focus could drive a fast start.
- Lions’ X-factors include Aiden Hutchinson’s unblockable practice dominance and Jameer Gibbs’ increased usage.
- Patrick Mahomes’ “no bad days” mentality and Jalen Hurts’ “one in the case” champion mindset are key.
Notable examples
- Bengals: Burrow’s 9-of-10, 123 yards, two TDs performance “last night.”
- Lions: practice rule where Hutchinson’s blown-up plays don’t stop drills because he can’t be blocked.
- Freck: Rio 2016 Paralympics inspired him at age 11; Tokyo 2020 “never again” lock-screen; Adaptive filmed for five years, with Paris filming funded by betting on a win.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONFL News and Top X-Factors
0:33 to 1:00
Discussion of the latest NFL news and introduction of top X-factors.
“So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for.”
NFL News and Top X-Factors
1:32 to 2:18
Discussion of the latest NFL news and introduction of top X-factors.
“Anthony Richardson goes out of the gun, ball in the near hash.”
Family Time Reflections
2:18 to 3:40
Rich reflects on spending time with family after a period of solitude.
“We're going to hit a bunch of phone calls right now here on the program.”
Upcoming Guests and Expectations
3:40 to 6:00
Rich outlines upcoming guests on the show and what to expect.
“like when I left for work, when I left for work today, I did look around the house and I did stand at the door sort of like what?”
Micah Parsons and NFL Contracts
6:00 to 8:40
Discussion on NFL player contracts and negotiation dynamics.
“Let me use it to beat the crap out of somebody.”
Listener Calls and NFL Concerns
8:40 to 10:40
Listener calls addressing NFL team concerns and player statuses.
“I'm stressed because it's August 8th today, and Terry McLaurin's still not signed.”
School Memories and Nostalgia
10:40 to 14:01
A light-hearted discussion about school memories and childhood crushes.
“You're just choosing a time on a clock that's far away from.”
Revisiting Childhood Memories
14:01 to 15:10
A light-hearted discussion about childhood crushes and school memories.
“Jimmy, Jimmy, not everything needs to be a reunion.”
Top Five NFL X-Factors Introduction
15:10 to 16:28
Rich introduces his top five NFL X-Factors that could influence team success.
“Now, when I say an X factor, that means this would eventually lead to success in the National Football League.”
The Giants' Defensive Front
16:28 to 17:45
Discussion on the New York Giants' defensive front as a key X-Factor.
“And where it's going to come from is not Jackson Dart and it is not the quarterback position as a whole or on the offensive side of the ball.”
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Green Bay Packers' Young Receivers
17:45 to 18:46
Analysis of the Green Bay Packers' wide receiver room and its potential.
“If the Packers are like, because the Josh Jacobs thing, he's a beast.”
Bengals' Fully Paid Stars
18:46 to 19:56
Rich discusses the implications of the Bengals' star players being fully paid.
“A fully paid Burrow, Chase, and Higgins.”
Detroit Lions' Key Players
19:56 to 21:16
Identifying Jameer Gibbs and Aiden Hutchinson as crucial for the Lions' success.
“Right, and where are they going to get it?”
Patrick Mahomes' Motivation
21:16 to 22:39
Discussion on Patrick Mahomes' mindset and potential impact this season.
“And in terms of the, remember I said the other day how Dan Campbell said the defense is ahead of the offense?”
Jalen Hurts' Impact as Champion
22:39 to 25:46
Exploring what Jalen Hurts' championship status means for the Eagles.
“but I don't care because he sounds friendly he looks friendly he is friendly everyone loves him Patrick Mahomes is red ass side How angry is he?”
Interview with Ezra Freck
27:20 to 28:00
Ezra Freck shares insights about his Paralympic journey and medals.
“Yeah, a little bit of a spoiler, but these are the gold medals right here.”
Heavy Medals and Their Significance
28:00 to 28:52
Learn about the unique design and weight of medals from the Eiffel Tower.
“Well, at least we know where those little scratches are coming from.”
The Impact of Pete Carroll's Class
29:15 to 31:24
Explore the transformative experience of Pete Carroll's class at USC.
“My wife and I were sitting there just blown away.”
Personal Growth Through Adversity
31:24 to 32:58
Ezra shares how he found inspiration and confidence in overcoming challenges.
“This man had so much going on, would come to class every single week and go, Jessica, how was that dance recital?”
Becoming a Paralympian
32:58 to 34:43
Hear about Ezra's journey to becoming a Paralympian after a pivotal moment.
“I look at some of the things he says, some of the things we talked about, and it might help me with some sort of issue challenge that I'm going through in my life.”
The Meaning Behind Medals
34:43 to 36:46
Ezra discusses the significance of medals and the people behind his success.
“I placed fifth in the high jump in Tokyo.”
Future Aspirations and Goals
36:46 to 37:44
Ezra reveals his upcoming competitions and professional journey with Adidas.
The Potential of the LA-28 Paralympics
37:44 to 39:18
Ezra discusses the transformative potential of the 2028 Paralympics in America.
“what's on the docket on the docket is um we have world championships in about eight weeks so in between Paralympic games, you have the quad, which is basically world championships, national championships.”
Supporting Education for Athletes
39:18 to 39:57
Learn about the Swim with Mike organization and its impact on student-athletes.
“Swim with Mike, was that something that you were part of?”
Ezra Freck Joins the Show
42:00 to 42:54
Ezra Freck discusses his recent career moves and goals.
“And he was like, oh yeah, that happened right after that.”
Master Key Game Discussion
45:03 to 48:31
The hosts playfully discuss the Master Key game and its challenges.
“So, to be honest with you guys, I spent three weeks watching episodes of Price Right.”
Win-Loss Game: Dallas Cowboys
48:31 to 50:42
A caller participates in a win-loss game predicting the Cowboys' season.
“I actually did have a quick question, though.”
Show Wrap-Up
50:42 to 51:01
The hosts conclude the segment with final thoughts and a tease for what's next.
“But at least I'm falling to 6-6 on Thanksgiving, and then 6-7 a week later, it won't set off any alarm.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Rich Eisen:Get your tickets now for The Dog Stars. It's no surprise how fast civilization can disappear. Out there, just kill or be killed. Jacob Alordi. There are people out there. They need our help. Josh Brolin. Shoot first and inquire afterwards. Margaret Qualley. Okay, tough guy. And Guy Pearce. Arm up! The Dog Stars. Directed by Ridley Scott. In theaters August 28th. Get tickets now. Rated R. Under 17, not admitted without parents. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist.
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1:00Rich Eisen:This is the Rich Eisen Show. Hey, everybody. Can't get enough of the Rich Eisen Show? You're in luck. You can find us everywhere. Watch us weekdays on the Roku Sports Channel from noon to 3 Eastern. Miss the show? We've got a podcast so you can listen anytime. But here's the best part. Our YouTube channel. Subscribe at youtube.com slash Rich Eisen Show and you'll never miss a moment. Now, on with the show. This is the Rich Eisen Show. Okay. The news we've been waiting for. Anthony Richardson goes out of the gun, ball in the near hash. Backs to throw, and he is decked from the left. Live from the Rich Eisen Show studio in Los Angeles.
1:48He hit me then. I was trying to make sure I had the ball, and I just looked down. I just seen my finger different. Earlier on the show. NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero. Six-year NFL veteran Andrew Hawkins. Coming up. Gold medalist Paralympian Ezra Freck. And now, it's Rich Eisen.
2:08Rich Eisen:Hour number three of the Rich Eisen Show is on the air. I've got a top five list I'm about to unveil for you. It's involving X-Factors in the National Football League this year. Hopefully it'll be of interest to you. Phone lines are lit. We're going to hit a bunch of phone calls right now here on the program. What's so funny? You were just like, hopefully it'll be of interest to you. I'll be honest. Do I need to sell it better? Is that what you're saying? I don't think you need to sell it at all. Top five X factors. I think I'm being a professional. I think I'm being a professional. You can see I'm dressed in my plane gear right now.
2:41Rich Eisen:I'm heading to LAX right after this. You look mad comfy right now. Kids are coming out of camp. Susan and I are spending some time with the kids. We're done with camp. We're all going to be reconstituted as a family. I spent my last night in the house without kids and all alone. How was it? Are you a little sad that your alone time is over? Just a little bit. Come on, admit it, Rich. You can admit it. It's quiet. You and Susie in the house. You can watch whatever you want to watch. You don't have to worry about anything. Can I answer the question? There's more, but go ahead. We'll do the shut up, let me ask you.
3:10Rich Eisen:Thank you. Thank you.
3:16Rich Eisen:Anyway, yes. Okay, but I'm not a bachelor. I have children. I've got a relationship and, and I'm excited to see my children again because I value all three of them just the same for like five minutes. And then they'll get annoyed. You know, can you just go back to camp? Excuse me. You're a parent. You understand? You only have, my kids annoying a lot of times. So like, I'm okay to admit that. So yes, like when I left for work, when I left for work today, I did look around the house and I did stand at the door sort of like what? Fresh Prince. Okay. Right. And looked around the living room. And I did just say to myself, take in the silence for one minute.
3:59Rich Eisen:Because you know I advocate for that all the time. You've got to live in the moment best you can. People will call into the show and ask for life advice from RES Consulting. We've had people call in just before their weddings. And I'm like, make sure you stand in the corner. It's one moment on your wedding night. Take it a moment. Okay? So I did take in that moment. But I am excited to see my children again. Cashew, want another question? I'm here for you. If you were to rank, like... Oh, my God. Which one you're most excited to see? I don't know. Who's the first one? It's just... Who could you pick?
4:30Rich Eisen:Like, if all three were ready at the same time and you had to pick up one... It's not appropriate. That's your man over there. The question's not appropriate. It's inappropriate, and I'm excited to see all three of them and hug them just the same. And that's the truth. Right. How dare you? Right. Now, but while I'm out of pocket next week, Tom Pelissero will be in studio in this chair next Monday and Tuesday. Tommy P. And then next Wednesday and Thursday, The Miz is coming in. Awesome. And, you know, he's got a big bar to clear because Seth Rollins did this show a few weeks ago. So The Miz not only has to be engaging and entertaining, he's got to lie through his teeth about his health.
5:14Rich Eisen:It needs to be fake injury. And then he's got to show up at the next PLE and rope us in as a program and get us aggregated like crazy. I love you said PLE, too. Dude, you don't even know who I am anymore. That's premium live event. Okay. Most people still say PPV. So I'm just like premium live event. So that's the bar for the Miz. I'm just letting you know, Miz. You can't just come here and talk about how great Shador looked on the Friday night preseason game. Gosh, that's true. You got to broaden out. You got to talk about more than just the Browns in Cleveland sports. And you also have to lie about your health and rope us into something that benefits us in the long run.
5:55That's right.
5:56Rich Eisen:Okay? This is going to come shoulder sling. That's great. My arm. Is that right? Oh, my arm. Wheelchair. Oh, oh, oh. Wait a minute. Let me use it to beat the crap out of somebody. All right. And then Friday, O'Shea Jackson Jr. is going to be sitting in this chair all three hours. So good luck with that. I tried to counsel you against that. Hostile work environment. As you might not know about that guy. I always like making news when I'm not in the chair. And I will tell you this, based on what I know right now sitting here, I will drop these two breadcrumbs and you'll know what I'm referring to.
6:29Rich Eisen:You guys have already heard me talk about it off the air as well. There should be not one but two things involving me professionally that drop while I'm out of the chair. Interesting. Okay, so one of them has kind of already been out there, and one of them would, I think, surprise a lot of people. Are you the new manager of the Yankees? Please, I'll come back, Rich. I will not be the new manager of the Yankees. Oh, they put you on the competition committee. Congratulations. No, no, no. Just dropping a couple crumbs of the bread. Is that why you're taking the week off? You're getting the hair? No.
7:08Rich Eisen:Are you going to Turkey? Are you really going to Turkey? I am not going to Turkey. Man, that would be something. Dion told you to come home. Nope, this is not happening. Terzo and Iowa, all rise. Let's take his call. Terzo, what's going on? Terzo? Hey, what's up? What's up, Rich? Hey, guys, I got to call out with Jeff Rollins. After what he did on your show, put Wink in all of us, and then allowing for Iowa to get buried, Let's remember, guys, he's from Davenport, Iowa. We've been trying to give that city over to Illinois for years. They just won't take it. Oh, wow. This guy. This guy. This guy.
7:48Rich Eisen:Iowa and Iowa. Violence right there. Wow. That was a verbal money in the bank case you just hit him with. Sorry. Go ahead. And at this point, I was going to tell him, and I called in. I invited him over to Carl's place, you know, and he had to say that it might be in a bad part of Des Moines. Well, it is in a bad part of Des Moines now, Rich. And if he comes in there, there's a pool table with his name on it. Okay. Look at this guy. Nicely done, Terzo. So Seth Rollins is now dragging us into an Iowa Civil War. It seems so. Apparently. All right. I like your moxie. I would pot a lot of heat from that one, man.
8:28Rich Eisen:O'Shea had to come on the pod on Monday, Terzo, and he apologized to the citizens of Davenport for talking bad about him on the weekend. and he realized it wasn't their fault. He was upset. Yeah, I listened to that, DJ, and I was happy to hear that from O'Shea. Thanks for the call, Terzo. Terzo and I are everybody. It was great to hear from him. Christian in Toronto, Canada. Let's take Christian's call. What's up, Christian? Hey, guys. Happy Friday. How's everyone doing? What's going on? What's up, man? I'm stressed because it's August 8th today, and Terry McLaurin's still not signed. Okay. And I've watched my team be bad for 15 years, and we finally are good, and now we're not signing our best player.
9:08Rich Eisen:Can I help you? Can I help you, please? Yeah, I need some encouragement from you. Don't worry about it. I've been optimistic. I've been optimistic. You should be. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I don't know. Do not worry about it. It's going to get handled. It'll get handled when it gets handled, to use the Mahomes phrase. The Washington Commanders are in New England tonight. don't worry about it. He's not there, which means he's not going to look around and go, oh boy, this is a nice place to play, like Brockman said. I don't know why he wouldn't think that. To be honest, there's a Tom Brady statue, 12-footer going up tonight.
9:43Don't worry. He's going to be like, hmm, I'd like to be part of that.
9:45Rich Eisen:So, listen, listen, it's all part of a long-ass negotiation that's going to get handled. The commanders will get it done. He will be there against the Giants week one, apparently, and thanks for the call. Tom Brady and Burkhardt are doing that game. That's first up. and then we'll be talking about Jaden Daniels throwing to Terry McLaurin. It's going to happen. I firmly believe it. It's just – and tonight, you know, well, Jaden Daniels looked good without him or they didn't really need him or, boy, they looked terrible without him. We're going to have to go through a couple of them. Jaden Daniels.
10:18Rich Eisen:And not playing. And he will not be – and he will – there you go. And he will not even – you know, we'll see if he's going to – this won't get handled by the Monday nighter on ESPN to end preseason week two. and they'll talk about it and whatever. Midnight, we're not even close to midnight striking. What was it? Pellicero pointed out, you know, Micah Parsons in Dallas. 27 days till kickoff. That is an absolute freaking eternity. It's like 7 a.m. What does that mean? Before midnight. It's that early. Oh, I see what you're saying. You're just choosing a time on a clock that's far away from. Midnight.
10:51Rich Eisen:Well, I mean, you could also say it's 3 a.m. No, they're up. They're just not asleep. If it's 3 a.m., I must be lonely. That just threw me the hell off right there. I'm sorry, Rich. What the hell was that? I was doing Matchbox 20. All right. I sing, but I know I can't. Can't sing anymore. Jimmy in San Antonio. Jimmy! What's up, Jimmy? What's up, Jimmy? Let's call out Jimmy. May your PLE be better than the OPP. Thank you, sir. Yeah, you know me. Y 'all are so easy to set up. I love it. It's easy. Get my soul out of my mouth. Hey! How's this? How's this? How's this? How's this? How's this? How's this?
11:25Rich Eisen:How's this? How's this? How's this? Just honest condolences to Terzo in Iowa and Jeff in Detroit on their losses this week. Okay. Love you guys. I just wanted to pass that along. Okay. I have a what's more likely and a Tommy P pushback because the rumors you heard, Rich, about Micah that he dismissed are true because I heard them four days ago, and then you just reported them, so there seems to be a little smolder of a smoke. So Tommy P, respect Rich's... I don't know. Listen, and it's in rumor. It's conjecture. You hear, you know, he's worn out his welcome in Dallas. And Jerry's just kind of fighting a fight by putting him to the griddle on behalf of those in the front office or the coaching staff or anybody on the roster who, you know, feels that way about Micah.
12:19Rich Eisen:And he's doing it on their behalf. But as Tommy P rightfully pointed out, then why was there a handshake agreement to begin with? Why is he ready to pay him all this money? I'm glad you bring up the handshake because the handshake wasn't just about money. It was about leadership. And that goes back to the rumors. So we'll leave it there, and I'll get to my what's more likely so y 'all can move on. Sure. All right, what's more likely? Jerry and Micah work out a deal by Monday, or Tricia Libertino remembers holding hands with Brock? When we were seven. Outstanding. Jimmy and San Antonio with a call back to the O's Perlman segment yesterday where he guessed the name of Chris Brockman's second grade crush.
13:07Rich Eisen:And I think where Tricia Libertini. Libertino. Tricia Libertino out of nowhere entered the chat. Out of nowhere. And I'll go that's way more likely, wherever she may be, to have gotten some sort of heads up from somebody that you have no idea your name was mentioned on a national television and radio syndicated program. So let me tell you what I saw on TikTok yesterday, Jimmy. YouTube Rotman. So the video got posted on our TikTok, Rich Eisen Show. Now, I don't know how true this is, but somebody wrote, that's my mom. Oh, no. But I looked at the page. It was a private page, so I couldn't. I don't know if that's just somebody joking, but like somebody definitely left that as a comment.
13:54Rich Eisen:Let's hope this. Okay, let's hope this. Why? Let's hope this is that Trisha. I'm trying to hold hands again. It's the magical moment. Wait, no, no, no. We can't do that. No, no, no, no. Jimmy, what? Jimmy, Jimmy, not everything needs to be a reunion. Jesus. Okay, like that. Trying to get my man in trouble. What I'm saying is this, is that Trisha Libertino, is that who it is? Libertino? I believe that was her name. That she is alive and well and has a happy life, a happy family, and that Chris Brockman's second-grade crush is, in fact, somebody's mother right now. That would be great. Yes, wouldn't it?
14:31Rich Eisen:Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Jimmy. Appreciate it. Just in the same way that the advances of a second-grader she rejected back in the way is a father right now. Right. Is that one way to turn it? I don't know if there were advances. This is insane. Advances. Okay. Yeah, Chris, I looked at the page and it was private. Let's hope. That elementary school no longer exists. It got torn down. Oh, my God, really? That's sad. Yeah. All right. I shouldn't say all right. Let's hope everybody is still being educated in that Virginia area. That would be nice. Gents, I have a top five. Hey. About? Top five National Football League X-Factors.
15:09Rich Eisen:Throw it up. We should be noticing more. Presented by Hyundai. Hit it. High five. One. Two, three, four, five. Rich's top five. All righty, everybody. Now, when I say an X factor, that means this would eventually lead to success in the National Football League. We're not talking about it enough. That's what an X factor means. But I am going from five to one in ascending order of this being a potential difference maker. Okay? That's my setup of top five NFL X factors we should be noticing more. You, Chris Brockman, in your top five, recently put the New York Giants on a team that is absolutely not winning the Super Bowl on the top five list, correct?
15:59Rich Eisen:Yeah, correct. So they may not be winning a Super Bowl, but what they may be doing is finally ascending from the depths of whatever happened with the Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley decisions, right? and they're going to finally start to win games with Brian Dable and Joe Shane is going to have better footing and we're going to move forward as a Giants franchise together ascending. That's my belief. And where it's going to come from is not Jackson Dart and it is not the quarterback position as a whole or on the offensive side of the ball. Number five of my NFL X-Factors we should be noticing more is the New York Giants defensive front.
16:47Rich Eisen:Nobody's talking about what they have built there. Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence and Kayvon Thibodeau and Bobby Okereke and Rakim Nunez-Rochez. And then you add Abdul Carter to this mix. Everybody forgets, I think. The best player in the Big Ten last year was Abdul Carter. Period. And I know Jeremiah Smith is, you know, the freak and all of this stuff. Abdul Carter is no joke. And no one's talking about it. He's second behind Brian Burns on the death track. So what this team can do up front defensively can absolutely be the anchor for a team that moves forward. that's number five on this list nobody's talking about this number four on the list is the green bay packers wide receiver room because nobody knows who to draft and fan honestly no idea who do you choose uh dobs jayden reed jayden reed maybe was their best receiver last year i mean christian watson Can we get him healthy?
18:06Rich Eisen:It doesn't seem like it, sadly. Dontavian Wicks. 22. That might be Matthew Golden, man. That's Matthew Golden. Deuce, deuce. Yeah. Matthew Golden. If the Packers are like, because the Josh Jacobs thing, he's a beast. We're checking that box. He's aight. Okay. And Jordan Love, let's get him not banged up in week one down in, you know, he won't be in Brazil, but you get my point. Yep. The wide receiver room, the Green Bay Packers. Who's talking about him? They're young, and they can do it all, and they're really good. Meiko Hardman's there, too, by the way. So the wide receiver room in Green Bay is an X-Factor nobody's talking about.
18:45Rich Eisen:Number three. I like it. Number three. We got a glimpse last night. X-Factor nobody's talking about. A fully paid Burrow, Chase, and Higgins. They're coming in healthy, and they're not talking about their frigging contracts. Fully paid. Fully paid. Paid in full, TJ. Burrow, Chase, Higgins. What does that mean? That's it. They're focused on their craft, not their contracts. They're not talking, oh, I was, you know, this franchise tagged this, and I was last year. Don't remember when Jamar Chase was questionable going into week one? Not this time around. Look what we saw last night. And Joe Burrow's like, yeah, it would have been better.
19:32Rich Eisen:I missed my first throw. Then I made the next nine, and I was 9 of 10 for 123 yards and two touchdowns and 15 reps. I only had a pass rating of 157.5. Let's see what this means for the Cincinnati Bengals, man. Start fast and overcome whatever defensive issues there are. Fully paid, Burrow Chase Higgins. When was the last time we could say that? Never. Never. They were all on rookie deals. Right, and where are they going to get it? How are they going to get it? They're going to pay Joe. What does that mean? Can they keep both? Both Chase and Higgins and let's franchise tag one. Not this time. Number two on the list.
20:09Rich Eisen:We're all talking about two people who aren't there for the Detroit Lions. Right? Talking about Aaron Glenn's not there. Ben Johnson's not there. And we're using that as the prism for the Lions season. Looking through that, prism is what happened to the Eagles the last time they lost their coordinators. Down to tubes. Here's two guys. Two guys, everybody. X-Factors. I know they're not. Jameer Gibbs and Aiden Hutchinson. I know they're not X-Factors. I know they're superstars. I know they're superstars. But who's talking about Hutchinson as a defensive player of the year? We're all like, oh, they had to put his leg back together.
20:51Yeah.
20:52Rich Eisen:And Jameer Gibbs is just, I think, if I'm in charge of the Detroit Lions, I just tell Mr. Montgomery, listen, we love you. Five yards in, every now and then, we'll use you as a batter and ram. Jameer Gibbs is getting the football all the time. Let's get him up to speed. Top running back in the NFL. Big-ass playmaker. Let's go to work there. And in terms of the, remember I said the other day how Dan Campbell said the defense is ahead of the offense? Apparently it's because Aiden Hutchinson cannot be blocked in practice. that they have a rule in practice that if Hutch blows the play up and has completed the sack, because obviously he's not taking someone to the ground, they tell the offense to continue the drill because they're not going to stop their ability to rep in practice because Hutch cannot be blocked.
21:55Rich Eisen:And Dan Campbell made reference to that in his latest press conference. You're trying to get some of your plays going, run some of your stuff, but yet if you can't block Hutch and he's going to blow every practice up, then that's not good either. But listen, we're good. It's all part of the process of working through it and letting guys grow and get reps. They were the one seed when everyone got hurt and Hutch's leg was put back together. He's put back together. and I don't know man I know they try to limit Gibbs' touches but take that governor off number one on the list of top NFL X factors we should be noticing more you're going to be pissed at this one but I don't care because he sounds friendly he looks friendly he is friendly everyone loves him Patrick Mahomes is red ass side How angry is he?
22:57Rich Eisen:How angry is Patrick Mahomes? We should change the title of this top five. How pissed is Patrick? He's not wearing an honest sleeve. He'll say things about practice. Practice. I think we have that sound bite. Not the game. Not the game. I think we got that conversation. Yeah, I just want to just... You ready? Hit it. Yeah, I just want to just, I want to up my mentality. You know, sometimes you get to camp and you just want to, you want to go out there and dominate the day. But I want to dominate every single rep. You know, I want to make sure we're getting the best that we can out of every single rep that we get on the field.
23:34If that's, even like we had a shift in motions period today where we're just going through the shifts and the motions. I want to make sure that we're getting set, doing those things the right way. And that carries through the entire practice. And there's no days off. You got to get better and better every day, no bad days. And I think that's been something that we've been great at this camp.
23:49Rich Eisen:Now, I know, again, he sounds friendly. It's just one, like, machine gun staccato cliche after another. No bad days, get better reps. Machine gun staccato. He's not going to come out and say, I hear what everybody thinks about us being lucky. I saw the memes of me clutching the referee in the Coldplay monitor. I see and hear everything. and I am coming for all of you. Now, we saw on the Netflix quarterback series that he does have that, and he works blue. Nobody's talking about this as a factor this year. And I got one more. Give me my boy. You think we need one more? No, give me my boy. You have one more.
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24:39Rich Eisen:I did not know this. Rich, you're leaving for a week. Please don't do what I think you're going to do. No, there's one other thing. Okay. The other X factor is what will it look like with Jalen Hurts having one in the case? Okay. Jalen Hurts defending Super Bowl champion. What is it going to be like? He's got one in the case. That's it. Now, obviously, it's Philadelphia. They start two and three, and it's because he's missing receivers and whatever. He stinks again. I understand that. But what's it going to look like if they come out and they are just, and they're starting to beat the crap out of the competition, and they are now a dynastic team.
25:14Rich Eisen:They look like a Dynastic team themselves. And this kid, he turned 27 yesterday. 27. Super Bowl champion. He has been there and done that self-made. I've told about this story. I get goosebumps telling it. Now he's got one in the case. A Super Bowl MVP. He is paid. He's got his life completely in order. What does that look like? That's an X factor. Kind of dig that top five. I was cultivating that caper for a while. And finally, I'm going to stop talking about it. Ezra Freck is in our green room. Let's bring him up. Here he is, the gold medal Paralympian. We'll talk with Ezra when we come back.
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27:14Rich Eisen:Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash Eisen. Terms and conditions apply. Season one of Adaptive, which is available streaming on Peacock right now, which means you can see it right here on Roku, follows the journeys of four Paralympians as they train to qualify for and compete in the Paris Paralympic Games, including our next guest here, who we met on the phone back in the COVID days, but now here in person, Ezra Freck is here on the program. Yeah, a little bit of a spoiler, but these are the gold medals right here. Boom. Okay. There's one. Here's number two. Beautiful.
27:47Nice name here. Here you go. And so that's a piece from the original Eiffel Tower that's on the front of those. And yeah, that's the 100 meter. That's the high jump gold medals from Paris at the Paralympics. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. Everybody back off. They're broken, guys. Well, at least we know where those little scratches are coming from. Oh, it's challenging. 2025. Oh, no. Excuse me. Those things are heavy. They're no joke. No, they are. They're super heavy. They're super heavy. I think they're some of the heavier medals that they've ever made. Because after I finished competing in Paris, did seven hours of media interviews with both of those things on, and might have felt like it broke my neck.
28:31I literally was in so much pain. Look at that. They're heavy.
28:34Rich Eisen:How beautiful is that? Those are dope. And these are, this is original, you said these are original pieces of metal in the middle from the Eiffel Tower? From the Eiffel Tower. So when they first built the Eiffel Tower, however many years ago, and they would make remodelings to it, they would keep parts of the original building in a scrapyard for something. They didn't know what they were going to use it for, and they infused it into the metals, which I think is super unique. Ezra Freck is here. His gold medals from the 2024 Paralympic Games are on the desk right here. adaptive which it chronicles your journey along with three of your other fellow paralympians is available on peacock right now called adaptive available on roku it's great to see you um last time i saw you was at usc correct yeah it was right it was were you in that pete carroll class did you take that class i did i did i was you were you the class that i've been talking about and i know i saw you here you you were in the pete carroll class at usc right i was in the pete carroll class at usc i'm a freshman i was one of literally two underclassmen i think that were in that class it was me and juju they let you and juju yeah we were some of the i think we were the only two underclassmen that were allowed in that class they wanted just you know they let us in because we were obviously athletes and they wanted us there yes um but i just got chills thinking about it because that was the most epic class of my entire life probably the most epic class i will ever take at any school would you mind just diving into this a little bit here and And then obviously we'll get into you and the documentary here and what you learned, what you gleaned, because I tried my best to explain it.
30:08Rich Eisen:It was something so remarkable. My wife and I were sitting there just blown away. We've known Pete forever. But just the stories that your fellow classmates were telling about how transformative it was for them as a person, as a student. And I'm wondering, you know, obviously you have been there and done that in terms of so much in your life to overcome and also succeed. I give you the floor on this right now. There's moments in time where as you're experiencing it, you know, this is going to impact you for the rest of your life. And that's what every Thursday at four o 'clock felt like in that Pete Carroll class.
30:45This is a man who has so much wisdom and guidance and life experience. And for him to take us under his wing to share that wisdom, to share that insight, to basically become a little USC family in that room. Every single week was so special. You had people completely opening up, sharing vulnerable parts about themselves. It was a class essentially on how to optimize your life, how to live life to the fullest. It was called The Game is Life because we were learning from the greatest, one of the greatest football coaches of all time in the way he approaches football and the way that applies to life.
31:23And so it was this beautiful, beautiful class where, I mean, and Pete Carroll is one of the most amazing human beings I've ever met in my entire life. This man had so much going on, would come to class every single week and go, Jessica, how was that dance recital? Oh, Steve, you were talking about that meeting. How did that go? But he would remember every detail about every single student and just had so much love to share. He brought in some of the most amazing speakers. We had Jason Sudeikis. We had Tom Brady. We had literally the most elite high performers across every single field that were coming in, sharing their wisdom.
31:58and then um pete was this this probably it was the most amazing class i will ever take in my
32:04Rich Eisen:entire life and to hear this from you azra because obviously you know um a lot's going on with you yeah since birth pretty much right i mean and and so how did you learn more about yourself and about optimizing yourself when you clearly have succeeded at that on your own it's it appears so far i i I appreciate that. And it's a truth. And I do, I would like to believe that I'm pretty far along as far as the way I view myself and my confidence and life optimization. But even still, as an athlete, as an entertainer, as a human being, I feel like we're always pulling from inspiration, right? I feel like I'm always trying to be two, three, four percent more inspired, motivated, and to then have people who have accomplished the highest of successes, to have someone like Pete Carroll to impart his wisdom, take nuggets from it, learn from it.
32:56I mean, every now and then I just open up that journal. I look at some of the things he says, some of the things we talked about, and it might help me with some sort of issue challenge that I'm going through in my life.
33:06Rich Eisen:And you were born with congenital limb differences. Is that the proper way to put it? I was basically born, I had one finger on my left hand and I had a lower left leg that was curved up towards my waist. And then about three years old, I had a 15 hour surgery where they actually amputated the leg right at the knee. And then they took the big toe from my left foot and put it onto my left hand. And so I had a toe to hand transplant. I could pick things up. I could hold things. And then I got a stump that could fit into a prosthetic. And, and so when did you, or who was the one who inspired you to say, I, I want to be a Paralympian.
33:42Rich Eisen:Like where, when did that moment arrive for you in your life, Ezra? That's a good question. Okay. Growing up, I loved every sport, basketball, soccer, football. Growing up, my actual idol was Pau Gasol, and he and I became friends, and he was a mentor to me when I was growing up. But then when I was 11 years old, I was watching the Rio 2016 Paralympics in my living room, and I had this out-of-body epiphany universe telling me, this is your calling type moment, and I decided right there, and then I was going to be a Paralympian. Who did you tell this to? I told this to everyone, family, friends, parents.
34:16I publicized it as much as I could. I was 11. I said, in four years, I'm going to make the Tokyo 2020 Paralympic team. So the odds that the average 11-year-old can just go from completely unranked to making the Paralympic team is super, super slim. But we built a great team around myself. I trained obsessively, sacrificed pretty much all of my middle school, high school years to make it happen, and then competed in Tokyo. And then you did it. I did it. Yes. That was the start. I competed in Tokyo. I placed fifth in the high jump in Tokyo. I was devastated to come so close to the podium, but not walk away with a medal.
34:51And I was reinvigorated. I set the lock screen on my phone as a photo of the medalist that beat me with the words never again on there. And I vowed that I was never going to let that happen again. And I was going to win every single major championships or Paralympic game for the rest of my career.
35:06Rich Eisen:So then you must have, I assume you heard how Jalen Hurts made his lock screen, you know, losing the Super Bowl. Yeah, the photo of him walking off with the Chiefs confetti on the field. Exactly. So you can relate to something like that. 100 % I can relate to that. The reality is it's like this weird balance between wanting to sort of let go of the past, but also recognizing that is the most motivating thing in the world. Losing on the world stage. Every time I open up my phone, I see a photo of the guys that beat me. Jalen Hurts has the same thing. Those days you don't want to get up. Those mornings you want to sleep in a little bit longer.
35:42those times where you're not feeling like going to the weight room, you open up your phone, you see that. There's nothing more motivating than that.
35:48Rich Eisen:I guess the difference between you and Jalen Hurts is he's got one trophy, you've got two medals. Just as a, for instance, what do these medals mean to you? Those medals mean a lot to me because of how many people invested so much time and energy into my career. and and for me it's really about impact over medals it's always been my dream my purpose is to normalize disability on a global scale and winning medals are just a part of getting to that larger purpose but i would trade every medal in the world if it meant i could accomplish you know my larger my larger goals but the reality is i put my heart my soul my blood my sweat my tears every ounce of my being into putting myself in the position to succeed at the Paralympic Games and for it to work out the way it did I mean this documentary we've been talking about adaptive we've been filming this for five years we were actually up against the budget we were you know almost running out of funding and the whole team decided we're going to spend the entire budget to film in Paris just banking on the fact that if I were to win we could then get funding to finish it afterwards and so i'm wow i'm sitting there in the paralympic village thinking to myself we've been filming this doc for five years if i don't deliver we don't finish this if i don't deliver in paris we don't find funding to finish the doc and so thinking about how many people were involved in my journey these medals are an ode to them and that's what makes them special dude man so cool you're pretty special yourself thank you thank you you are but i mean i'm you know i told you that beforehand when we were when we were chit-chatting at the at the p class and it's it's remarkable it's remarkable so what's next for you what's uh i mean you you've accomplished a lot how old are you what's your how old 20 okay dude wow still a baby okay so now what's what's uh what's on the docket on the docket is um we have world championships in about eight weeks so in between Paralympic games, you have the quad, which is basically world championships, national championships.
38:01Um, last week I just went pro. I signed with Adidas. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. I went, I went pro.
38:12Rich Eisen:I see it. Signed with Adidas. Um, so I won't be competing on the USC track team anymore, but I'll, I'll compete, you know, as, as a pro track athlete. And then we have world championships in eight weeks. And then where is that in New Delhi, India, which is very exciting. And then we're already filming the next season of Adaptive. That'll come out before LA-28. And the LA-28 Paralympics, and you can quote me, that will be the most transformational moment in American sports history. The LA-28 Olympics and Paralympics. And so - Why is that? Because we have the opportunity to fundamentally change the way society sees people with disabilities through the Paralympics.
38:49The Paralympics in and of itself. People don't fully understand this. This is the highest level sporting competition on the planet for people with physical disabilities. When you expose that to all of America, it rewires the way you see people with disabilities. And we have the opportunity with the games on American soil to do that, to make sure that 50 million Americans, 15 % of the U S population that has a physical disability feels properly included in society. And it's through sport and it's through the Paralympics in 2028. You can count us in on that effort if,
39:20Rich Eisen:If you wish, we're here. You know where we live. I know where you live. Did you take place in a swim? You said you went to SC. Swim with Mike, was that something that you were part of? Swim with Mike is an amazing organization. And, you know, I was good enough to make the track team at USC, but I wasn't good enough to warrant a full scholarship. And so USC is an expensive college to pay out of pocket. And Swim with Mike is an amazing organization. and they help people with physical disabilities basically get into school, get into colleges and help them afford to be able to be at a high level institution.
39:54And so they helped me be able to go to USC in the first place and allow me to compete on the track team and, you know, help me afford that. So they're very special. Awesome. Amazing.
40:04Rich Eisen:Well, listen, you know where we are. I know where you are um if you're still around the usc campus i'm going to be there later this uh month okay for the first class of the next iteration of uh the it's not called the game is life yeah but um susie my wife is the professor along with david belasco who's taking up the mantle no yes and you She's beyond excited, but it's daunting because you're a perfect example here. Guys, here's somebody in you. I don't mean to talk about you like you're not sitting here, Ezra, but where you have accomplished so much that you decided I am going to compete. I'm going to see what this game of life can do for me from my couch, from my position, and look what you have done with it.
40:57Rich Eisen:and you said you learned so much from Pete's class. I'm telling you, it was one of the most special things I've ever seen, and I'm appreciative of you giving voice to it. And, you know, Susie's going to take up that mantle. She's competing in that respect as well. I'm so excited. So if you're there, you can come by on Tuesdays. Is that what it is? I'd love to stop by. No, Pete Carroll's an amazing guy, and I'm so excited to go to some Raider games. I mean, he literally accepted the Raiders' job while he was in class, like with us wait a minute are you serious yeah so you're you're all in class together he right he was in the process of figuring all this out and literally he was like right after class is how when he accepted the job like we all you have no service down there no service right so he wasn't getting any calls or messages and then apparently like right after class is when you know he got the call accepted the job it was unbelievable like this is all happening while we were and he's you He's talking about all, he's explaining the process of what it's like to be an NFL head coach.
41:58And then sure enough, the next class comes back and we're like, Coach, you accepted the Raiders job. And he was like, oh yeah, that happened right after that.
42:07Rich Eisen:I thought you meant like you got something right in the middle of a question telling one of your classmates, hold on a second, before you answer, I get a seat. Tom Brady's on the phone. I accept. Now you were saying. Sends a quick text like, yep, I'm in. I'm in. but yeah with no service down there a little difficult but yeah apparently like it was happening as class was going on there and then eventually he stepped out and took the job well the game is life right no doubt adaptive on peacock available on roku uh check it out ezra you're a delight to have here ezra freck um thank you for bringing your your hardware uh congrats on the gig with adidas and good luck in your professional career and stay in touch and And seriously, your mission is remarkable.
42:50Rich Eisen:And however we can be a small part, we're here for you. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. You got it. That's Ezra Freck right here on the Rich Eisen Show. Rich Eisen here for gusto. After all these years talking to athletes, coaches, entertainers, and people at the top of what they do, one thing is pretty clear. Success usually depends on getting the details right. For small business owners, that includes payroll, hiring, onboarding, benefits, You know, the work that keeps everything moving, even if it's not the reason you started the business in the first place. That's why there's Gusto.
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45:02Rich Eisen:Oh, my gosh. It's a beautiful brand-new car. You've been wearing a coffee maker. Oh, that's terrible. A bike. An electric bike is like five. Master Key is the game. Master Key is the game. This is going to take a while. Oh, it's what unlocks the car, TJ. TJ, did you ever watch Master Key? This is a rare game. So, to be honest with you guys, I spent three weeks watching episodes of Price Right. I never saw this game before. It's a rare game, dude. Yeah. I've never seen this game, guys. But look what's coming up. My heart's thumping right now. Why is that so nervous? I mean, this is amazing. By the way, when did your carry grow this big-ass beard?
45:45Rich Eisen:Oh, he's had it for years. He looks like, are you serious? He looks like Jeff Bridges. That's actually trimmed to what it used to be. Okay, here we go. Oh, popcorn machine. Oh, I'll take that if you want that, TJ. By the way, you've got to bring in this popcorn machine if you want it. I want this popcorn. $41. $41. $41. It's not$71. $41. It's$41. That's one key. That's one key. Grab the key. Take the middle key. Take the middle key. There's five keys. Yes. He takes the middle key. Oh, he's not looking. He takes the second to the right key. I didn't look. I didn't look. All right. All right, TJ.
46:23Rich Eisen:What are you going to unlock? Oh, you got to do that later. That's right. Here's another key. Here's a basket. $584. That's a$58 basket. It's not an$84 basket. No way. What's in it? What's in it? Oh, you got to get what's in it, too. Oh, it's an$84 basket. It's an$84. It's an$84 basket. Here's where I messed up. I listened to the people. That's an$84 basket. I listened to the people. Come on, TJ. TJ. 84. No, he went 58. No. Oh, no. TJ. Oh, he only has one key. We need to find a friend. Oh, my gosh. Come on, TJ. It's got an$84 key. Uh-oh. Master G. Does it unlock the... Does it unlock? Okay, it does not...
47:05Rich Eisen:Coffee maker. No coffee maker. Coffee maker. Okay, he's going to unlock the electric bike. No, no, no, no, no. No! Okay, all right, all right. Does it unlock the car? Oh, my God. Does it unlock the car? Let's go! Does it unlock the car? Does it unlock the car? Does it unlock the car? He's turning the key. No! No! Oh!
47:30Oh, that was so riveting. You were so close.
47:35Rich Eisen:Oh, my God. Well, that's a nice parting gifts for you. What did you get to go to get out of contestants roll? What did you bid on to get out of a ping pong table? Oh, can you bring that in here? Well, yeah, probably. May 4th, 2021 was when that aired. It's now August 8th 2025 Four plus years later The ping pong table Still boxed up And graduated from college And it's not unboxed And it's still sitting at the house Still sitting at the house So The parting gift is yet to part From his Apartment You got ripped off, TJ. I did. By the way, I just found that video I was making at the point. Fantastic.
48:28Rich Eisen:I'm sure you watch it back all the time. Hey, come on, dude. Chris, I'm going to let you choose the one of the four that's still remaining. I got time for one win-loss game. Hit it. Which one do you want? I can't see. I have my screen. Sorry about that. Pick number three. I got a good one. Mike, you do it. Mike, what do we got? Jacob. Jacob in San Bernardino, California. What's up, Jacob? It's been almost three hours. What's up, Jacob? Hey, how are we doing, Rick? I only got two minutes. What do you want to do? I want to do a win-loss game. I actually did have a quick question, though. How come, Rich, you guys don't do the higher register segment anymore?
48:59I love that one. Great question. It's coming back.
49:00Rich Eisen:Guaranteed. We'll bring it back. Come back. Jacob, we'll bring it back. Give him. Give him. Give him. Okay, we got to go fast. The Dallas Cowboys. Oh, baby. Here we go. What happens opening night, Philadelphia? That will be a loss, sir. Home for the Giants. That's a win. At the Bears. I'm counting that as a loss. I think Caleb will be good. That's not a high register. One and two, home for the Packers. That's a win. I think we do it against Green Bay. Two and two at the Jets. Come on. That's a win. Sorry. That's a win. Three and two at the Panthers. That's a win. Four and two, home for the Commanders.
49:42We'll take a loss there.
49:44Rich Eisen:Four and three at the Broncos. Another loss. Back to back loss. Four and four home for the Cardinals on a Monday night. That'll be a win. Five and four at the Raiders on a Monday after a bye. That'll be a win. Six and four home for the Eagles. We lose both games against the Eagles. Six and five Chiefs on Thanksgiving. That's another loss on Thanksgiving. Six and six at the Lions the following Thursday. Ten days. I don't feel good about three losses in a row. We're losing to Detroit. 6-7 home for the Vikings. We win that one, though. 7-7 home for the Chargers. I think the Chargers do, unfortunately, run all over our defense.
50:28So I think that's a lot.
50:29Rich Eisen:7-8 at the Commanders on a Thursday. That'll be a win. We split with Washington. 8-8 at the Giants. And we finish 9-8. 9-8. Thank you, Jacobs and San Bernardino. 9-8. They missed the playoffs. That does not make the playoffs. No, it does not. I don't like that. But at least I'm falling to 6-6 on Thanksgiving, and then 6-7 a week later, it won't set off any alarm. No, no, no. No, of course not. If that happens. Back to wrap up on the Roku channel in a moment. You know when you're locked in, focused, and fearless. Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away. Every assist. Every stop.
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