In short
WWE King and Queen of the Ring tournament fallout and match-by-match discussion, plus Raw/Bloodline vs Seth Rollins tension, and AEW Owen Hart Foundation Cup mention.
Guests
O’Shea Jackson Jr. (heel host) and TJ Jefferson (co-host). No other guests are named in the transcript.
Guest backgrounds
O’Shea Jackson Jr. is a wrestling podcast host/performer; TJ Jefferson is a wrestling podcast co-host/commentator.
Key claims
Liv Morgan is positioned to win Queen of the Ring and move on, with Judgment Day’s Roxanne and Raquel setting up an eventual internal betrayal. Fans expect Stephanie McMahon to interfere, but the hosts argue the drama can unfold without her. On the men’s side, Seth Rollins’ “bloodline needs more people” argument is criticized as hypocritical given Rollins’ role in past Bloodline turmoil. The King of the Ring upset is praised: Javon Evans advances after beating Seth Rollins, Ricky St. and Tala Tonga.
Notable examples
Obafemi’s chair spot and Dom/JD interference; LA Knight vs Jey Uso with “screw your family” heat; Penta vs Rey Mysterio with Dragon Lee and Chad Gable saving; Chad Gable’s “reclamation” angle with Lucha respect.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Queen of the Ring
0:00 to 0:21
Analyzing the unexpected outcomes and storylines in the Queen of the Ring tournament.
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Discussion on Queen of the Ring
0:54 to 2:25
Analyzing the unexpected outcomes and storylines in the Queen of the Ring tournament.
“Feeling good, feeling good, and also feeling wrong.”
Potential Storylines and Drama
2:25 to 6:01
Speculating on future matchups and character dynamics involving Liv, Raquel, and Roxanne.
“but she said that Liv what you said was right.”
Men's Division and Seth Rollins
6:01 to 8:02
Discussing the dynamics in the men's division, focusing on Seth Rollins and his conflicts.
“Because nothing's really gone off kilter.”
Bloodline Dynamics and Rivalries
8:02 to 14:02
Examining the relationships and ongoing rivalries involving the Bloodline and other wrestlers.
“I see a world where it's them in the finals and Roxanne is like, hey, I mean, do you really need both?”
Wrestling Debates and Opinions
14:02 to 15:14
A heated discussion on current wrestling events and opinions.
“Man, you keep asking a question and answer it yourself.”
Recap of King of the Ring Tournament
16:00 to 20:54
Detailed analysis of the King of the Ring tournament and standout performances.
“I'm like, nah, dog, I don't think you should do that.”
LA Knight and Jey Uso's Match Dynamics
20:54 to 28:03
Discussion about LA Knight's performance and interactions with Jey Uso.
“The other dudes got something I need something And I want this for Javon Now I'll tell you one thing Are you going up against Cordell Or the Tribal Chief Other people Could have the title and I I may think about it.”
Match Predictions for King of the Ring
28:03 to 29:16
The hosts discuss their thoughts on the competitors in the King of the Ring tournament.
“Dirty Dom stepped up and he wanted to let Obafemi know that he was taking him out in the king of the ring.”
Jay and LA Knight's Potential
29:16 to 31:00
The conversation shifts to the potential outcomes of matches involving LA Knight and Jay.
“Yeah, I know, but it's like they don't got Finn no more.”
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Finn Balor's Role in the Tournament
31:00 to 32:32
Discussing Finn Balor's chances in the tournament and his relationship with other wrestlers.
“I think Jay moves on because then it starts the thought of, are they really about to have – the same way I feel about Liv and, like, are they really about to let her challenge for the other belt?”
Women's IC Title Match Analysis
32:32 to 33:50
Analyzing the women's IC title match and discussing the performances of Sol Ruka and Lyra Valkyria.
“Wrestling-wise, I want to see Finn versus Javon.”
Rey Mysterio vs. Penta: A Dream Match
33:50 to 35:50
An in-depth review of the exciting match between Rey Mysterio and Penta.
“Bailey kind of slapped her on the back kind of hard.”
Chad Gable's Redemption Arc
35:50 to 37:52
Discussion about Chad Gable's character development and his association with Lucha Libre.
“He's trying to make amends, trying to right his wrongs.”
Chad Gable's Redemption Arc
38:40 to 39:23
Discussion about Chad Gable's character development and his association with Lucha Libre.
“Stock up and stay big on shoes, tops, dresses, accessories, and more must-haves for summer.”
Chad Gable's Future in Wrestling
39:28 to 42:00
Analyzing Chad Gable's potential as a wrestler and discussing his journey.
“And I don't know why people make that seem like it's a bad thing.”
Chad Gable's Evolution in Wrestling
42:00 to 43:40
Discussion on Chad Gable's wrestling style and potential future matches.
“Yeah, you know, after that match, I think there is more heat on that iron than that has been in a very long time.”
Wrestling Reactions and TikTok
43:40 to 45:50
Exploring the impact of social media on wrestling opinions and reactions.
“There was someone who was making a comment that he'll never be better than mid-card.”
Women's Bracket Predictions
45:50 to 48:20
Speculating on the outcomes of the women's bracket in the wrestling tournament.
“Liv's already on Ross, so I would assume one of the SmackDown women would probably come out, which is Jade and Charlotte, but we'll see.”
Referees and Their Impact
48:20 to 51:10
Discussing the influence of referees on match outcomes and storylines.
“He went to the women's crown and they had to point him in the other direction.”
Emotional Connections in Wrestling
51:10 to 53:20
Highlighting the emotional depth and significance of wrestling experiences.
“By the way, how is there not a Ric Flair movie?”
The Von Erich Family Legacy
53:20 to 55:45
Discussing the tragic story of the Von Erich family and their wrestling legacy.
“You know, they did a Dark Side of the Ring recently about the Von Eriks.”
Paul Orndorff and Wrestling Greats
55:45 to 56:00
A conversation about Paul Orndorff and his place among wrestling legends.
“Like I said, I think he's an incredible actor.”
Reflecting on Paul Orndorff
56:00 to 58:55
Discussion about the career and impact of Paul Orndorff in wrestling.
“Because remember back then it was territories.”
AEW and the Owen Hart Foundation Cup
58:55 to 1:01:17
Insights into recent AEW matches and the significance of the Owen Hart Cup.
“now that I think about it, that's another story.”
Mercedes Monet's Journey and Future
1:01:17 to 1:08:22
A deep dive into Mercedes Monet's career trajectory and potential future matches.
“There was a move where Roosh landed on his leg, and it looks like his knee kind of.”
Upcoming Matches and Predictions
1:08:22 to 1:10:01
Predictions about future matches and storylines in AEW, specifically focusing on key wrestlers.
“as soon as she came in, as soon as she signed the dotted line and she debuted in Boston.”
Analyzing the Owen Hart Tourney
1:10:01 to 1:11:51
Discussing potential finalists and competitors in the Owen Hart Tourney.
“You got Ospreay over there with a darker side to him because like I told you I didn't know what training with the Death Riders meant.”
Wrestlers Who Deserve Better
1:11:51 to 1:14:52
Identifying and discussing wrestlers who are underappreciated in their promotions.
“five-star classics that they always try to ring out every single night.”
Emerging Talents and Future Prospects
1:14:52 to 1:16:30
Exploring the potential of lesser-known wrestlers and their futures in the sport.
“I just want to say I didn't think about that when I made that list.”
Podcast Promotions and Social Media
1:16:30 to 1:17:40
Sharing information on how and where to listen to the podcast and engage on social media.
“Now I know y 'all don't know where we at right now but TJ can you tell the people where they can find us?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01Ready to soundtrack your summer? With Red Bull Summer All Day Play, you choose a playlist that fits your summer vibe the best. Are you a festival fanatic, a deep-end DJ, a road dog, or a trail mixer? Just add a song to your chosen playlist and put your summer on track. Red Bull Summer All Day Play. Red Bull gives you wings. Visit redbull.com slash brightsummerahead to learn more. See you this summer.
0:33O'Shea:Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the No Contest Wrestling Podcast. I am the heel that you love to hate, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Hey, hey, hey, Eddie Guerrero. Hey, yo, it's me, it's me. It's the T-double-O, the J-I-double-G, two-jigger, T.J. Jefferson. What's up, man? What's up? What's cracking with you today? Feeling good, feeling good, and also feeling wrong. raw? Feeling wrong. Completely wrong. Completely wrong. I know somebody be watching our show that they saw us on our little hot streak when it came to storylines and things like that. They were like, no, we got to pivot. Because, man, here I thought we was about to get Becky and Charlotte in the semis, and that was about to be cool, and yada, yada, yada.
1:26O'Shea:Nah. You're talking about the Queen of the Ring. Queen of the Ring because how we thought things were going to go still could happen in some spots but you know the things the winners went a little unexpected in my book you know watching Liv I see that they're going to they're really teased in this possibility of Liv winning this thing for as long as they can and you should it'll keep people talking keep people yapping Liv Morgan, people have been talking about her not defending her title. More matches with Liv is always good. So here they go. Here they go. And, you know, we're also wrong about some things on the men's, but right now I want to stay on the ladies.
2:17O'Shea:Always want to stay on the ladies. But stay on the ladies. And we got Liv getting her victory. Liv moves on. So what this is starting to look like, because backstage when Liv was in, you know, getting her pats on the back for her victory, our girl, Roxanne, spoke to Liv about how last week, you know, she was just feeling bad that she couldn't get the dub for the judgment day. but she said that Liv what you said was right. A win for one is a win for all. That way if it turns out to be you versus Raquel we can't lose. It's all in family. Liv ignored the hell out of that. It just so happened that Dom and JD walked in conveniently at the moment.
3:05It just so happened. She would have to give an answer. But bro, that is a That's juicy. That's a juicy little storyline right there. Yeah, I mean, what would that look like? The Liv versus Raquel in the finals. We've been promised that this was going to happen since the day the group got together, essentially, right? Because people love to do that. The second faction forms, people always like to immediately want to plot for its demise. you know so you know this has been floating around like how is one of them going to turn on the other because that seems to be you know part of the course for the judgment day right you get to a point in the group and then they excommunicate you uh physically in a violent way so now i think the only question is you know with the three judgment day ladies is which is going to be, who is going to be the one to flip on the other, or which two are going to flip on the one.
4:08You know what I mean? So they're still up in the air because right now you're thinking it's going to be Roxanne. But then it's, you know, at some point Raquel has got to look at the situation and go, I'm the biggest, the strongest, the baddest one here. Why am I always playing second fiddle? You know, and then she could flip. You know, so there's still a little bit of wait and see there, but we know something's coming. It's pretty obvious.
4:34O'Shea:Yeah, and the rumblings online amongst fans is, you know, we're all waiting for Stephanie McHare to come in and kind of, you know, attack Liv or cause Liv one of these matches. This Raquel-Liv situation, I don't know if you need Stephanie to interrupt that. I don't know if that's the foregone conclusion that she's going to come back and interrupt what's happening right there. It's been, like you said, we've been waiting for it for so long. This is like, this is some good meat on the bone. This is like, this could go, this could set things in plenty of different directions. And I love that while Roxanne is saying, Liv, you were right, that was my bad, she's really saying, I want to see what you're going to do.
5:32I want to see what you're going to do when this situation comes up. How are you going to act? Are you full of shit? Or like, are you being real? Because, I mean, we talked to Roxanne. She's no dummy.
5:47O'Shea:And the character has not played anything but what the prodigy really is. And man, it's It's getting a little shaky over there, you know, a little shaky. And I think I kind of want to see it. I kind of want to see the drama. See, that's the thing. It's not really shaky yet, right? Because nothing's really gone off kilter. Like, we are, from the outside looking in, can see it. But when it comes to them, like, things internally seem to still be kind of smooth. Like, we know it's going to happen. But look, they're winning right now. and you know everybody but if you notice every time live goes you know me and daddy don king and queen of the ring that's when you know rocks or raquel will like put the sunglasses on you know or give a little look so like i said it hasn't started yet but you can just see the fork in the road is coming and and you know you say they winning are they winning or is it just live I mean, yeah And my other problem is this You know, we touched on this last week With your tweet About Liv being in the tournament And how she responded And how you folded faster than wet origami And you know You Just from like a House show perspective I read today that Jordan Grace is on the tour Or was on the tour And just was like sitting there Not up to anything I know they're different shows, but why not give the fans Rock Hill against Jordan Grace?
7:22Just so the champions actually wrestle him. Having her in this tournament,
7:31I'm with you. It doesn't make a great deal of sense unless you're going to annoy Liv Morgan as what she says she is the greatest of all time. and have her, you know, win this tournament, be the standing champion, having won, you know, the Saudi belt when they were like, so, you know, and maybe that's where we're going here, Shay. Maybe we're anointing, you know, Liv Morgan as, you know, the greatest of all time. Right. I mean, I can, I see that world.
8:05O'Shea:I see a world where it's them in the finals and Roxanne is like, hey, I mean, do you really need both? I mean, you can't give Raquel this so she can go challenge for the title? Isn't it better when we all have gold instead of just, you know, you? I can see all these things playing out. Wouldn't that be the plan, though? like if Raquel wins then the plan is for her to go challenge Rhea in theory absolutely if it's her you're right I'm saying like I can see Roxanne's promos if it is them in the finals like hey let her get this let her get this done come on what are you doing you have this title already come on sister yeah well I thought it was all good So I can just see that.
9:01O'Shea:And that is drama that I think is needed. I think it's a fun ride to go on. Like I said, we've been anticipating it for so long. But yeah, that does be day. And remind me, right now it's Raquel EO live. And I think they still got to do that last match, right? There's one more coming up. Yeah, man. My money's still on Charlotte Flair. Money's still on Charlotte Flair to come out of that. But, yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if they throw Stephanie in there. You know, I'm not going to not love it because she do need her get back. Hell, if we get jumped. You might have just answered it right there.
9:52Charlotte comes out. She beats Liv, right? And we don't have any of this drama that we've been building up. Right. You know, none of this could happen. We just could have wasted like 10 minutes talking about some BS that don't even go down. Who knows? We ain't in the writer's room. Yeah, man. They pay us to yap. They what? So that's it. They pay us to yap anyway. They love it. You get paid, please? I got this for love.
10:17O'Shea:So the men's side of things, we've got some issues as well over on the beginning of Raw. well not necessarily to start beginning but there was some talks amongst LA Knight you know there was whispers amongst LA Knight brother you jumped way ahead then that wasn't the beginning of Raw yeah I mean it was brought up by what was he the architect is he even anything now is it just Seth frickin Rollins that's just all that's all it was and that came from a backstage argument between the bloodline and Seth fricking who just kills me TJ. He just kills me. Why? He was sitting there minding his own business with the newfound friendship with Tez.
11:05Right. Which drives me crazy. We knew here at No Contest Wrestling that you know, when they ain't at work, those two might enjoy a nice steak dinner sometimes together. But that is neither here nor there. That's not the point. Now we have a new understanding ship between him and tez and then yo here come jimmy jay and jacob into their locker room talking that noise so you're mad at seth but what was he doing he didn't go
11:37i the north remembers tj i don't feel bad for you seth bro i don't feel you're not like you're not
11:48O'Shea:You just not like whether it is him talking about talking down on the bloodline like you didn't create this monster. Like you didn't have a hand in making this monster of Roman Reigns. Or like how about the fact that like you come in here chumming it up. Just a couple months ago, you was in here terrorizing just like Roman with bloodline 3.0. What, are we just supposed to forget? Bro, a lot of people got hurt because of y 'all. Bro, because you got stabbed in the back. Hey, man. Let's let bygods be bygods, am I right? It's Seth freaking Rollins. You were really letting, and I love the bloodline as much as anybody, but you really, like, are looking at this with some bloodline coloring.
12:38The man's not saying, like, we should be friends. He's not saying we should go have steak together. He's like, look, there's a numbers game here, and it would benefit us to at least have some numbers on our side.
12:50O'Shea:Yeah, like you just had with the vision when you was beating up everybody? My back still hurt. They kicked him out, so now he's got to get his comeback. You're not looking at this rationally, man. Bro, I'm looking at it the same way that everybody wants to get on Roman for how much of a tyrant he was during his time. Everybody forgot what Sam did just a couple months ago, but we're all cool with it. We all fine with it. Say the number, 1 ,600. How many? 1 ,316 days. Okay, bro. But like y 'all just go act like y 'all forgot what happened almost a year ago? No, I don't want to make. Just a year?
13:29I don't want to make some real world comparisons here, but like a small dose of something as compared to a bigger dose of something, you know, you can't even say the vision was even close to having the reign of terror. When I see a flame, I snuff it out. And also,
13:49O'Shea:him and L.A. Knight, I guess they don't watch the PLEs because Seth was like, oh, mister can't defend his title by himself. He just did it three PLEs in a row. Three PLEs in a row. No interruptions. Nobody came to help you. Three in a row. And you're still dropping these bars? Stop it, bro. We don't believe you. You need more people. You need more people. Well, that's what he's saying. Come on, bro. Man, you keep asking a question and answer it yourself. We need more people. That's what he's saying. He needs more people to come take on the bloodline. I don't know why you're fighting this. It's not making sense, man, because the same old things don't work no more.
14:29O'Shea:Like how we were talking about the people online talking about James, the same old arguments don't work when a man is over here doing it three months in a row. Okay, but you realize that what your favorites are doing now is the same thing that they did before, right? So you just said... Listen, Houston's a rooster that don't crow no more. Get with the times. Did you not see that five-star with Punk? Did you not see Jacob back-to-back? No interference. It's like you're playing with yourself right now, man. It's just like I'm giving you answers and you don't want to hear it. I don't know what the hell.
14:59Bro, because, man, he was wrong. Sit back and enjoy the ride. Sit back and enjoy the ride, man. because the bottom line is it don't even matter after all that because the person that moved on in this king of the ring battle was Javon Evans. O 'Reilly Auto Parts can help take the guesswork out of your vehicle's check engine, ABS, or maintenance light with O 'Reilly Veriscan. The service is free and provides a report with solutions verified by ASE certified master technicians. Ask for O 'Reilly Veriscan today. As you know, managing maintenance, repair, and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back.
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16:12Tala Tonga, excuse me. And he moves on in the King of the Ring tournament. And I got to say, that was a little bit of a – I was a little happily surprised, but a little surprised. That was a lot of surprise. I popped so loud in the living room because I was like, all right, here we go. All right, here's the finish. It was a pleasant like, this is why I watch.
16:33O'Shea:Just another little like, this is why I watch right here. I don't know everything. Everyone got to shine. I thought Ricky and Javon, they had some pretty good chemistry together there. I'm going to talk about this later, about people that you need to do something with. One of those people I was going to mention is Talatanga. The brother's seven feet tall. You just look at him there. He was doing powerhouse moves. He's got a cool look. Like, seven-footers just ain't walking in and out of those doors, man. So, do something with this cat, bro. You know, Corey made it seem like he was doing the game.
17:11He's not doing the game. He's new there. But, you know, he's been around for a minute. So, I thought everyone got a little chance. You know, they got a chance to shine. But again, happily surprised with Javon coming out on top. Me and my mama call. Talatanga a hair bear bunch. That's how she know it. Who's fighting? A hair bear bunch. Oh, okay. She knows immediately. The boy got good hair. It's there. It looks strong. Like I'm saying. Do something with them. Right, exactly. You can sell some shampoos. By the way, a little side note. You know the Rock got a shampoo and conditioner? Yeah. this ain't new what the hell for TJ what the hell does he have that for you know that he's had this for a minute it don't matter he's been balling forever what is he using it for it's already too late bro what is he doing with that I've heard people make this joke a lot and then one lady on TikTok I saw made a joke about hey you can achieve your dreams the Rockets and then the next thing you know just from making a joke that I've heard other people make he happened to see it and now he hooked her up, the family's going to the premiere of Moana and they got this message from The Rock and it's just like you just never know because that was the easiest joke to make and it was a joke that I've heard and yet for some reason she got lucky enough and he saw it so what I'm going to say this is we're going to keep pushing to ask The Rock to come on this show because if he saw that then he could see this.
18:57Episode 100. You say it's 100 but let me tell you, if he calls tomorrow and say let me get on episode 89, yes. It doesn't have to be 100. It would be cool to be 100 but we just need to know that. You gotta always aim for cool. Let's give him plenty of time. Well like I said, if he goes, hey I can do 93 what are we gonna say? No, we will get back to you in 7? No. So throw it out there. Yes, we want the rock. I can probably give him 96. Oh no, 94. 94. You'll give them tomorrow if we had to and we'd make it happen. And I'll write a hundred on it. Whatever. But yeah, since you brought that up, I was going to talk to you about that.
19:37Man, she made this video simple, quick. Not the most original it's been said before, but like this one for somehow got his algorithm. Next you know her and her family, man. When you see celebrities and they have their products, you always wonder, are they really using it
19:54O'Shea:and you know what he is not using that bro he's not using that Tala Tonga's probably using it though probably he got that old school herbal essence you know what I'm saying but yeah Javon just as an aside let's go back Javon getting the dub and then that got me thinking you know the superstars from NXT, we were so happy. Javon, Trick, Oba. Oba getting his shine. Title or no title, Oba is over. Trick Williams got the United States Championship. Javon, this might be his time. This might be his thing that Cressions him Into the WWE Solidified he's already Entertaining and all that but you know like The other dudes got something I need something And I want this for Javon Now I'll tell you one thing Are you going up against Cordell Or the Tribal Chief Other people Could have the title and I I may think about it.
21:17But this right here, getting the king of the ring,
21:21O'Shea:it might be cool to see him coming out with that crown every week. It will be something for that character. Either way, my man is being showcased, and that is always what you want. I love this for him. For sure, for sure. And then, you know, speaking of the bloodline, we saw L.A. Knight in the ring, because after they walked into the locker room, Seth pointed out, well, Jimmy actually, let me take that back, tried to set Jacob on Seth. Jacob wasn't with it. He was just like, you know, I acknowledge the travel chief, not you two jabronis. And then he mentioned LA Knight. He's like, he's the one who got the family's name in his mouth.
22:05Why don't you say, you know, try to take him out. And then did you see LA Knight's in the ring and the announcer throws the mic and he doesn't catch it. Looks all mad. He throws it back out and makes him throw it back to him. I don't know. I just thought that was really funny. And also, that second throw was a lot more pressure to catch than the first one. It's a lot more pressure to throw, too. Bro, like, he went in there quick and grab. So, yeah, that was funny. And then, you know, he's making his case and then, you know, being kind of real. Like, I probably won't have a chance because the bloodline will come out.
22:39don't interfere blah blah woo woo and then all of a sudden Jey Uso's music hits now comes Jey and they're about to have a conversation and I thought it was kind of cool that even though he's the bad guy technically the fans were really in his entrance you know they were locked up they were eating he gets in the ring and the fans wanted him to run it back I read some blog that was like Jey isn't really over and he decided to run it back like no. Hey, they called him. Are you not watching? So he does it, runs it back in an LA night. This is, of course, naturally which I found funny. He was like, you expect me to sit here through all this?
23:22I need to break this up. Yeah. I got to give LA night credit because he had the bar of the night. He said, it was Jay, Jimmy, John Jacob Jingleheimer Smith. His name is my name, too. His name is my name, too. Yeah, man. Far of the night goes to L.A. night.
23:49O'Shea:But, yeah. And also, let's credit France, because that's where we first saw the heat movement really pop off with the crowd. Now, people have always been doing that and, you know, all that. But France was the first time it was in unison, and it looked like a sea of people. that backlash in france and so when you're out there in paris they gotta get the run back they gotta get the come on now they they made it pop off bro that that night out there it was special man so yeah shout out to france always they're trying to take the crown for best crowd in wwe like there's it's not a real fight with anybody else uh except you know when they when they be going over there to, like, Scotland, and they be going crazy.
24:37But France is like, it's just electricity every time. But you got these two, Jay and L.A. Knight, and got history. And, you know, they got the normal back and forth,
24:48O'Shea:you know, the words, yada, yada, yada. But at the end, as Jay is leaving that ramp, L.A. Knight, he don't like all that yeet still playing. And he said, listen, you're supposed to fight for your family. That's what a man does. And, you know, I respect that. But I mean this. From the bottom of my heart, from top to bottom, screw your family.
25:16Louisiana night. Bro, you want to talk about mothers. Jay starts walking back to the rain. Jimmy in full Baywatch. O.J. Simpson in the Hertz commercial.
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25:30O'Shea:Coming down the ramp. hold on now hold on hold on hold on jimmy being the voice of reason also want to point out seth rollins pointed out uh uh a tj a tj tidbit you know jimmy what what is it what is it that you do here right now you're the voice of reason and this new ish blah blah i mean that that's all good but sooner or later that voice of reason snaps so it's just something i gotta keep an eye on there, but screw the family, TJ? Yeah, I mean, that was like, oof. That's a lot of family. Good luck with that, dog. Good luck with that. Screw the family. So, you know, that storyline is just going to keep on chugging along here, and we'll see where they take it.
26:24You know, the show kicked off, though, with, you know, one of my main issues with Oba losing the Brock was I was afraid that it would halt his momentum. I was afraid it was going to halt what he had built. And it's great to see that not only did it not halt it, but it actually picked it up a lot. Like, Uba is so over there. And, like, him coming to the ring, you know, those fans just, you know, doing the strut, you know, doing the oof, like letting them know. And it was just, I don't know, I felt good. I really did, dog. It made me feel good because I was seriously worried. Because you read online, now there were some people like, oh, it was over and blah, blah, blah.
27:09But not over in a good way. Like, it's over. And it's great to see, like, with a live crowd, how wrong you would be if you thought this dude's push had stalled in any way, shape, or form. To the point where, you know, he had to give them all right, all right. Yeah. Because they were trying to show you. Show My Man Love. Like I said, so I'd love each and every bit of that, you know, just because it just – I thought it was a wrong decision possibly had been made, and now it seems like the fans are still into it. They're still rocking with him. You know, he had some strong words talking about making Brock Lesnar calling him a bitch.
27:50Like, you know, that's Brock Lesnar. He called him a bad bitch. I was like, this is a compliment. This is disrespect. This is insane. Called him a big bad bitch. And then all of a sudden, here comes Dirty Dom. I was so proud of him. Dirty Dom stepped up and he wanted to let Obafemi know that he was taking him out in the king of the ring. And then, of course, J.D. McDonough comes out, hits my man with a chair, and Oba no-sold the heck of that chair. All his strength. He got that chair back and Oba turned around. He didn't even grimace. It was just like, you know, like I wasn't joking. Like he just felt like he turned around and J.D.'s face, you know, what a worker.
28:38And, yeah, he got his ass off. And Dom taking the pizza toss, you know, kudos to you. It looked like a lot of him, landed on a lot of him.
28:48O'Shea:Right. And, yeah, the bar, second place for bar of the night. We all know that the ring stereo is your father. Next week I will introduce you to your daddy. to roll the at eight. Yeah, so that was... Made me uncomfortable. So now it's like, man, does... We said we don't think Oba's going to win this. No, it don't make sense. So is Dom going to find a way? No, no way. Sturdy Dom, huh? Yeah, I know, but it's like they don't got Finn no more. Only JD going out there, bro. you never know man bro Ovo will pick up JD by his ankle and beat Dom with JD it's a 20 year event we're talking about here in Dom Mysterio unless he knows how to operate a forklift I do not see Ovo losing to Dom but if he do they love Dom Mysterio more than anyone in the company we know this more than anyone in the company to you.
30:01You beat Cena and Oba? I'm the man, bro. I'm telling you. That would be crazy. I was saying this with Dom getting the crap kicked out of him by Seth Roms with the kendo sticks. Him and Buddy Murphy beat Dom half to death. I said, that's going to be the man right there. He's the man. Look at him. I don't know, man. But we got... Over. Dom. Javon.
30:31O'Shea:And then we got to see between LA Knight. Royce, he's Jay. And I can't think. Dang. I know somebody listening is like.
30:50Sorry, man. We're doing it off the top of our head. Dang. I can't remember. But either way. Yeah. So, you know, we got that match to look forward to. I think Jay moves on. You think?
31:03O'Shea:I think Jay moves on. I think Jay moves on because then it starts the thought of, are they really about to have – the same way I feel about Liv and, like, are they really about to let her challenge for the other belt? It's like, dang, are we really about to see the bloodline, like, possibly have both shows on lock again? But you know LA Knight is going to Not stand for that Seth Rollins isn't going to stand For that because they are A bunch of haters Couple haters Couple haters What do we got over here Couple haters Couple haters Shout out to my boy real one there I don't know I don't know who's going to win this And that's what I kind of like I hate the years when things get spoiled or it's so obvious.
31:57Oh yeah, of course, it's Finn. That's who it was. Oh yeah, Finn Balor. Of course, that's what he's doing. So JLA, Keys, and Balor going at it for that last spot. We've had some upsets in this tournament. I wouldn't be surprised if Finn takes the win. Finn and Javon? Why not? Might go crazy. Would go crazy. Yeah. Matter of fact, I'm putting it down right now. Finn Balor is my pick. Finn Balor? I like that. Finn and Javon might go crazy. Come on now. I like that as well.
32:39O'Shea:Wrestling-wise, I want to see Finn versus Javon. If I'm aiming towards story, J and J. Yeah, but like... Let the king of the ring mean something. Yeah, let them get out there and do something. Finn needs something good. Finn needs something. He just got over the SmackDown 2. Let him start with a dub. I like this. I like this. I like this. Then we had the women's IC title match. We had Sol Ruka against Lyle Valkyria. Wait. Lyle is strong as shit. There was about maybe three times when I really for a second thought, oh, Lyra's about to win this. That's when I was about to win this. And I was like, nah, they're not taking this off his soul.
33:27But I still got caught up in the match. So it's kind of what you want.
33:35We'll see. We'll see where this goes. I think Lyra's about to snap. It seems to me. We're going to see Lyra get reach of breaking point. and then we'll see where her character goes. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. Bailey kind of slapped her on the back kind of hard. She might snap. You know, Bailey, like, ever since you cut her hair, Bailey will start tripping on you, man. But I will follow my moon and my stars anywhere. Of course. I will never, I will never boo Bailey. Again, what I told you, there was something I wanted to talk about later. Bailey's a part of that whole thing I want to speak on, too.
34:15But, yeah, speaking of IC title. All my life. Sorry. Speaking of IC title, we had Penta against Rey Mysterio. What a match. Yeah. Dream match. What a match. Dream match. What a fun, just something that, you know, they've teased. Remember in the Royal Rumble when Penta first got there, he and Rey were in the ring together. So they had a little, you know, crossing there. but I think they said a few handful of times in Mexico but the first time here in WWE that those two got to get it on and it was everything you could have wanted yeah go ahead until the end you know when they start to get roughed off a little bit yeah oh man and there was a right before he did the 619 Ray kind of landed a little funny on the back of his head.
35:12Yeah, he was, you know, he was a little dazed, bro. He was a little dazed before he... Right? I was like, ooh. Yeah.
35:22Hold on, man. Like, he's still little, y 'all. He landed a little awkward. He got up and, like, he kind of, like, pushed Penta instead of, like, a full, like, you know, move. And I was like, oh, yeah, he got a bell a little bit right there. But obviously the GOAT of Luchador of Lucha Libre he's a professional the utmost professional got it done and they jumped they jumped him they jumped him Penta got the win but in comes our boy all ego and they came in just to wreck shop That's why Rusev's good in my book And then Dragon Lee comes down For the save Dragon Lee does everything at 125 % Like in spots where you only have to go about 30 % Dragon Lee's going at 135 % He comes to the ring You know Get some offense But then of course He gets beat down Rusev snatched Ray's mask off And he did it so quick So quick And to the rescue comes Chad Gable in Clayton's house.
36:37He's trying to make amends, trying to right his wrongs. A little reparation. Exactly. He gets the mask back from Rusev, hands it off to Penta. Now we're seeing the Chad Gable Reclamation Project continue. It's funny because Ray said something to him about something he had said before the Lucha. He needed to make right. I think he has to be talking about Alpha Academy. He has to be talking about how he kind of did Otis and Tozawa and Maxine. This is what he's doing. Oh, yes. You know, remember when they were all together and Chad, remember, he got the creeds and he kind of tossed them to the side.
37:20Him and Otis, we thought we were going to get that was going to be something special that never happened. I missed that because I remember when he talked to Penta, Penta was like, listen, if you talk about Lucha Libre, you got to go talk to, obviously you got to go talk to Ray, send him to Ray. but I didn't pick up on the Alpha Academy because they were in the back. They showed them in the back in some segment. The three of them were talking. And so I completely even forgot that. That's just how I'm seeing it. Yeah, you got to right those wrongs as well, bro. But we also feel like Maxine is going to even join the Vision.
37:57That's something that we've talked about. She's not going to join the Vision. She doesn't want to get hurt. That's the thing. I wouldn't ruin a recruiter for the vision. Okay. Y 'all need some blasts. I'm good. Need some bubble wrap up in there. Everybody's getting hurt, man. Yeah, it's a pandemic going around. By the way, Bronson Reed. I saw an updated picture of Bronson Reed. The man is in the best shape of his life. Phenomenal. Yeah, he was great, man. Shout out to Bronson Reed. Big Bronson Reed. Big Bronson Reed. But yeah, um... So good, so good, so good. New markdowns up to 70 % off are at Nordstrom Rack stores now.
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39:23Learn more at windows.com slash student offer. While supplies last, ends June 30th. terms at aka.ms slash college pc chad gable we talked about that five star classic the battle of the mass versus mask with the americanos and him coming back and you know kind of apologizing for the way that he was and you know realizing the respect that he truly does have respect
39:55O'Shea:Respect for Lucha Libre I dig it I like it How far can it go? I agree Because look bro It's not like we haven't known for years That Chad Gable was him We've always known that Chad Gable Was him So what are you going to do With this version of Chad Gable Are you going to put him over now Are you going to give him one of these midcard titles and again just an aside I constantly see this I've said it before I'll keep saying it people try to make it seem like oh you're midcard and that's a bad thing 90 % of wrestlers no I can't say 90 because there's a percentage that aren't even there a huge percentage of wrestlers are midcard it's what keeps the engine running bro like not everyone's main event the main event spots are only this big everyone else is a mid-carder.
40:56And I don't know why people make that seem like it's a bad thing. But, yeah, the U.S. title, the IC title, those are mid-card titles. Something you strive for. But, yeah, we've always known Chad Gable was that dude. We've always known he was a great wrestler. Just between bad gimmicks like Shorty G, what was that? And everything else. Vince making Vince laugh. Yeah. He just hasn't really been given a proper chance. So we'll see. I'm going to hold off, like you said, how long can this last? I'm going to hold back and I'm going to see. Are they really going to like? You know, he's got this documentary out right now that I've caught a few clips of, of him talking about his journey, making it through surgery, his recovery and everything.
41:42It would seem to be a prime time to really give him the pop, especially if you think he deserved it. Yeah. But again, I don't know if I am confident in the fact that they're going to reward Chad Gable, that they're going to give him the props that people feel he deserves. So we'll wait and see. Yeah, you know, after that match, I think there is more heat on that iron than that has been in a very long time. You know, I, me and my sister, too, just say that he should have been Kurt Angle some and not, you know, Jason Jordan. But, yeah, Gable showed that he can work a story, and then when it's time to pay it off, he gonna go.
42:38O'Shea:Right now, this new look, this serious feel to him, I see kind of the feeling I had as a kid whenever I saw somebody was going up against a Phish Finley, a Hardcore Holly, a Chris Benoit. When you're going up against them, you're about to get your ass wet, bro. It's not about to be easy. You got Gable across from you. we know what he's about to bring. He's about to be solid, strong-ass wrestling that does not look funny. I see that for him. If he can figure out a way to have another crazy match with somebody, maybe with an Ilya, I think that's something that can keep that iron hot to get some hardware around him.
43:35Ilya and Gable, yes. That would go crazy Sign me up for that But yeah so I didn't even think about that and it's funny you brought Ili up Because that was like some of the You know I see some of these videos on TikTok Everyone's got like a reaction A wrestling reaction or an opinion Which I don't know Sometimes I feel like maybe we should jump More heavily in TikTok but we both got day jobs I was about to say man We trying to get these people But uh Yeah, Dragunov. There was someone who was making a comment that he'll never be better than mid-card. And I'm like, so he'll never be better than a United States or an intercontinental champion?
44:17Yeah, where all the belts are. What is wrong with that? Am I missing something? I don't get it. But yeah, Chad Gable, I'm down for it. But we'll just have to see. we'll see if he gets that push that everybody knows they've been waiting for him to get yeah absolutely all we can do is watch I think these guys and girls are probably already made their way back home I think this tour is done can you imagine going from Paris, France to Baltimore right talk about a ship man talk about a ship It was kind of funny getting raw at like 11 in the morning Here on the west coast I kind of dug it Especially yesterday With basketball being on Didn't have to worry about wrestling Because it was already over Even though I still was watching them both at the same time Yeah You still working The Rich Eisen show No I was home
45:26No I'm talking about wrestling Yeah, but I'm saying I didn't really watch it until I got home this week. Now, last week we had Tom Pelissero zooming in on the show, and I made a video of me clearly watching Raw.
45:42Wasn't even trying to hide it. Yeah, no, man. Raw's on. Y 'all know me. What are you doing? Well, this is for my other job, Rich. Yeah, what you want? What you want, man? I got to acknowledge my tribal chief. What do you want to hide? It's no contest. I think that's as far as the WWE go so yeah we'll see what's going to happen with the Judgment Day we'll see like you said the other women's bracket with Soul, Lyra, Charlotte and Jade I don't you picked Charlotte to come out of that to come out of her this bracket yeah to face Liv Soul doesn't need it she's got the IC title It would be wild if they let Saul go through And now you have the women's world champion And the women's high seat But in theory that would kind of make sense Because in theory aren't they your two best wrestlers Your top two belts That means in theory those are your top two Shouldn't even be here Well I'm saying those are your top two wrestlers In the female division So in a way I guess it could make sense You know But that's thinking too deep Yeah excuse us Excuse us I'm just saying.
46:54So, yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man. Could be Jade, could be Charlotte. Liv's already on Ross, so I would assume one of the SmackDown women would probably come out, which is Jade and Charlotte, but we'll see. We'll see where this goes. Yeah, it's exciting. It's unpredictable, and that's what it should be. And that's what's going around in the world of... I say that because if one of those two don't win that means all four women in the finals are all from Raw and that would be kind of like yeah that ain't right that ain't fair and the same thing with the men that's why I picked Finn because three out of the four are Raw guys Javon's Raw right Oba's Raw, Dom's Raw so somebody from Smackdown gotta represent Come on, Netflix.
47:48Damn. We get it. Okay, yeah, that's fair. Fair analysis. Fan is definitely looking like the better pick. Fair analysis for sure. So that's a little raw reek, or raw. Might as well be raw, but raw, SmackDown, King of the Ring, Queen of the Ring recap. I love when Oba came out and decided as he's doing the strut and he points at the crown. I thought that was it. At one point, I think it was last week, Seth went to the wrong crown. He was confused. He went to the women's crown and they had to point him in the other direction. Always looking to get his wife something, bro. I got to respect that. Well, you know, she don't need no help, okay?
48:33Right. If the missus wants something, she just goes and takes it. Unless Jessica Carr is there. I mean, she was the ref for this match. I should have known. I was like, Becky not advancing. Jessica Carr is here. That's like having Scott Foster referee a Chris Paul. Oh, no, I am. How you got a losing record against a ref? Like, bro, whistleblower. Go get him. Jessica Carr is to Becky Lynch as Scott Foster is to Chris Paul. It's right there. It's a shame, man. It's a shame. But, yeah, I think as far as the tournament goes, I think that's about it. Yeah. You know, had a great time chopping up with Sol Ruka last week.
49:27Thought that was fun. You know, Rich found out that she started crying. He's like, what is it with you? You know, because I got a chance over the combine to talk to Dallas coach Brian Schottenheimer. And I start talking to him about his dad, legendary coach Marty Schottenheimer, and what he thought who's passed away now and what he thought his dad may think and that kind of brought up the waterworks between brian rich and myself you know that was kind of a moment and then the soul thing and then you know you pointed out there's been about five times that i've made people kind of get emotional which you know i think it just goes to show like i said man this isn't it's because you might think this is air quote whatever whatever there's real feelings.
50:08This is real when you're in the middle of this, man. I kind of love the fact that people get in their feelings and let you know that this does mean something. This means a lot. Absolutely. I cannot stand the people who say things like, oh, the title's a prop. Like, it well the belt technically okay sure the belts but the title the title that says you are the champion like nah man yeah like bro to give your all to get to a destination it being a company yes but like a milestone where a lot of people just think about how many wrestlers there are not everyone just ends up at WWE and to be able to get there and the powers that be that are running that ship give you the keys give you the captain's hat we're riding behind you on any capacity this division
51:26O'Shea:it's gotta mean something it's gotta mean something to not only you, the fan, or you, the rest of them, but just on a professional level, this billion-dollar company is like, nah, we want to see it on you, see where you take us. Come on, dog. That's an honor. Yeah. You know what these people are doing. We should make a movie, man. It's crazy. By the way, how is there not a Ric Flair movie? I mean, you know, throughout the years you've heard rumblings that there was going to be one and, you know, we had that great ASPN documentary where they used the cartoon. That was amazing. We gotta get this Flair movie going, bro.
52:13Let me tell you something. There's three wrestling movies that I would love to see made and I'm not going to say them out loud but I will talk to you about it. I probably touched on it before at some point. but there's definitely three, Ric Flair being one of the three that I think would make a tremendous movie. These wrestler stories are just amazing. Bro, when Iron Claw came out, they were like, are you going to go see it? I'm going to cry for two hours, two and a half hours. Do you all know what that story's about? Yeah. And here's the deal. The real Von Erich story, it was so sad that they didn't even give you the full number of brothers who accidentally actually passed away you know they completely wrote out the youngest brother chris because they thought it was already too sad and that yeah that was hey when uh when zach efron said i used to be a brother oh my god no i'm not even one like come on man Oh my god.
53:22I called Daryl immediately. He was like, the hell is Vox? What's wrong? You know, they did a Dark Side of the Ring recently about the Von Eriks. It was a two-parter. If you don't know anything about them or if you kind of know a little, it's definitely worth it. It's really a sad story, though, man. Man, you gotta be in the mood. Let me think here. There was jack there was kevin david terry like six brothers and there's only one brother that's still around right now and they all passed away and you know you want to talk about when they say wrestling has more than one royal family one of those families that you got to talk about are the erics their royalty down in texas and you know yeah just their father fritz von eric was one the top heels in the business all of his boys started to wrestle um and then you know through some through addiction some through accidents they five of the brothers all all passed away just leaving one and it's yeah man it's truly a sad story but one worth watching because it's kind of amazing what the brothers were able to accomplish in such real truly little time on earth that they had.
54:45Yeah, man. Man. ESPN got plenty of 30 for 30s that they can make. I'll tell you that. And that's why, you know, when I watch the Ironclaw, like, I got to preface this. Jeremy Allen White. I really dig Jeremy Allen White. I love his work. From Shameless to the Bear. Actually, years ago when Shameless first came out, I was kind of doing club promotions and this girl from Chicago who was like, hey, I've got these two friends in town. I brought him and this other girl who was on the show out to this club I was working at. So I'm a big fan of him. I see the physical transformation that the dude made.
55:24He packed on muscle. But you gotta understand, Kerry Von Eric was built like, you know, one of these great gods that people were talking about. Six through, probably two, 55, 260. And I remember being a kid, like I had never seen anybody built like that guy was. Like, you know, just muscle on top. So when you have someone who's like five, nine playing him in the movie, it's kind of like, and I don't want to disparage him. Like I said, I think he's an incredible actor. I thought he did a great job. But like when you look at who Carrie Von Erich and Kevin, they were both just ripped athletes, you know, people down in Texas and all through the country that could see the Von Erichs.
56:05Because remember back then it was territories. So not everyone got to see everyone. Von Erichs were huge, man. So yeah, sad story. Sad story. Side note, my sister wanted me to say next time you talk to TJ, by the way to the listeners and viewers, we're just having a phone conversation now, but my sister wanted me to ask you your opinion on Paul Orndorff? Orndorff, yeah. Mr. Wonderful. You want to talk about you know people being in shape and being in bodies that was one of the things like you know he was to do was definitely like yoked yeah back in the day I remember he and Rick Rude uh their feud kind of started once with Bobby Hayden bringing I think Rude in and it was an argument for who had the better body and I can remember being a kid Mr.
57:03Wonderful Paul Rude was like he does not have a better body than Mr. Wonderful and I was like I was Well, he does look a little bigger than you. Oh, you're chill. Yeah, chill. But yeah, Paul Wendorf was in the main event of the very first WrestleMania. It was him and Roddy Piper against Mr. T and Hulk Hogan. So that kind of tells you what they thought of Paul Wendorf, right, for him to, you know, WrestleMania. Everything was on the line, as we know. So to be part of that main event with Mr. T and Hogan, he was, you know, well worthy of his spot. and come to think of it, isn't he so wonderful he never, did he ever win a title in WWE?
57:43I don't think he ever did. Wow. Did Intercontinental know? Was he a tag team champion? I don't think so. Off the top of my head, like I said, I wasn't expecting to talk Paul Orndorff today, but yeah, I don't think. She's become infatuated with the man. Okay, you know, he used the power driver. His power driver as his finisher looked very real. Mr. Wonderful always had a dope robe like his robes were really really cool too and he was a legit badass you know he famously got into a fight with Vader where they were in WCW and as you know the legend goes he laid out Big Van Vader all 450 pounds of him while Orndorff was wearing flip flops oh see that right so I can't let that story get out I'm sorry.
58:36You're going to have to see me, bro. Yeah, so Mr. Wonderful Paul Wurndorf, he was a really good wrestler. One of those real shooters, if you will. Like, you know, he busts you up. Hey, somebody in the car right now, like, oh, they're talking about Mr. Wonderful. Well, speaking of the car, now that I think about it, that's another story. I can't remember who was driving. Was it Tommy Rich? Maybe, but apparently Paul Wurndorf and Tony Atlas were in a car and something happened and they were just the driver was instructed to pull the car over so those two could get it on so you know that's a story you know you can look they started scrapping?
59:17oh yeah I'm pretty sure you can look that up guys after we're done here but yeah look up Paul Wendorf and Tony Atlas I'm pretty sure there's a story about them fighting yeah and of course in Georgia Championship Wrestling he held titles WCW he was a TV champion I think the US champion as well but yeah Mr. Wonderful man there you go Kareem I hope you watch you gotta subscribe I tell you what man I gotta give props too to AEW watch Dynamite last week oh the gold is back my gold is back you know they got the Owen Hart Foundation Cup 20 going, but I got to give a shout out, man. MJF and Roosh. I always say about Roosh, bro, that sometimes, and I've said this before, sometimes I you look at Roosh and you wonder, like, did someone let him know?
1:00:20You know, like, you know how I said how Dragon League goes 100%. Yeah, yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, man. Come on now. Roosh sometimes goes about 188%, 187%, you know, so So he and MJF put on kind of a brutal match where MJF put him in the little bell lock at the end of the match. Roosh didn't quit. It was a I quit or I believe it was an I quit match. But regardless, MJF has got him in the little bell lock. And it's one of those things where you know Roosh isn't going to tap. He's not going to say I quit. He kind of looks up at MJF and gives him the finger. and he's like, ah. And it was just like, yeah.
1:01:06Terminator 2. Yeah, I was like, I couldn't see Roosh, like, giving up. But, yeah, he and MJF, they put on a banger. I'll tell you that much. And also, look out for MJF. There was a move where Roosh landed on his leg, and it looks like his knee kind of. Oh, no, no. Yeah, man, looked real wonky. So, you know, going to be looking to make sure MJF is okay. because it didn't look good. But then after the match, he's about to continue with the beatdown. I think he... Did he bring out a chair? I just remember Mark Briscoe come running out. My boy Mark. I love Mark Briscoe, by the way. Reach for the sky, boy!
1:01:48Woo! By the way, I'm going to say this, too. I do have this list, and I'll do it one day, of the greatest tag teams. I also have a list of my favorite my favorite promo guys and we've talked about this way in the beginning of no contest i'm talking within like the first five ten episodes but man mark and jay briscoe on the mic those are some of the most entertaining promos and again if you're not familiar just go on youtube and watch some briscoe brothers promos because they just it felt very real you know they're out there on the farm on the chicken farm you know at one point mark's got a shotgun and he just start shooting beer cans and like and jay jay was just money on the mic man ah god bless but yeah just on the side the briscoe brothers man i i miss watching them get busy uh the don callus family they added a new member they just ever grown they're like the nwo once you know they start going you know kevin knight now yeah he's now a member of the don callus family it's ridiculous He and Speedball Mike Bailey, they had to get it on because they were a team.
1:02:57I'm still trying to wrap my mind around that jacket Mike Bailey had on the week before. That was a Karate Man jacket. That was a Karate Man jacket for sure. Who else would we have? Mark Briscoe, Leo Rush. Leo Rush is this Blackheart character. He knows He knows You know that's wild Andrade he had a win Kevin Knight as we said he beat Mike Mike Bailey and then your goat She came back Alex Windsor She had a vacancy in the Women's Or the Women's Foundation Cup and then The CEO came back New music right She put a little bit of muscle I like Alex Windsor but she didn't have a chance in this one Mercedes Monet got that dub Did you see the gear?
1:03:59The gear, the hair Oh My god CEO It's just money I was really hoping to see her in this Persephone Let me talk about it man listen well you remember for like the last two years I've been on Persephone yes it's one thing to get 11pm text messages from TJ and it's another to see her coming down the ramp and I was like no ain't put my finger on it something about this lady I know she know how to fight tried to tell you man about Persephone damn bird and then she Persephone has a match and she loses to Hazuki Mercedes back that's awesome I think we kind of know where this is going though right if I get on my rant Athena and Mina they're on the side Sky Blue and Serene they're on the side of the other side I think it's safe to say that this is Mercedes to go back to back on.
1:05:18So eventually we got to get her and Tecla because Tecla is another one who I told you from the day ones of me finding out about her, I was like, this Tecla kind of scares me and I love it. She's been amazing as the AEW women's champion and her, Sky and Julia, you know, they cut a promo and eventually, you know, they walk through the crowd, set up the ladder and, you know, Tecla is at war with stardom since they didn't fire her, but they fired her. Look, those are her words, not mine. Right. Let's go. Yeah, but she climbed up on the ladder and she spit on the stardom name. So, you know, that's the forbidden door.
1:05:58You know, there's going to be bad blood there. But ultimately, at some point, we got to get Mercedes and we got to get Tecla and they got to rumble for this AEW Women's Championship. And I tell you what, I'm buying that PPV okay I ain't I promise you this I'm not trying to stream it like on some free site no no no you're getting my money on that like for sure because I need to see I need to see Tekla and I need to see Mercedes Move A just you know live and in living color I might be you know I need to see it
1:06:36O'Shea:and I think it's time man I think it's time it's time for Mercedes to have a big girl belt it's time bro I didn't believe she was going to get it done against Timeless Tony Storm when they faced off just because I looked at it this way even though Tony was in NXT and WWE that Timeless character that was an AEW creation right there that was Tony that was RJ City all of those people coming together and helping create that character. So I kind of, in my heart, knew that Toni Storm wasn't going to lose to Mercedes at that point. But now I feel like you know, after she went, she collected all the belts, right?
1:07:27Gave them back, put people over. Alex Windsor being one of them. It's her time now to get that AEW women's belt. And boy, the promos, she gonna cut. As champion. As you know, that's not necessarily her strong suit, right? That's what everyone will tell her.
1:07:56The easiest rebuttal in the world is when you got 20 pounds of gold on your shoulder. Oh, you saying what? Excuse me? You saying what about me? You ain't saying nothing. No, man. I don't care what you got to say. I got the big girl belt. But there's nothing like – there's nothing – I don't care.
1:08:18O'Shea:I'm the champion. You're lucky I'm here in front of you. And so it's just – it'll be great to see, you know, as soon as she came in, as soon as she signed the dotted line and she debuted in Boston.
1:08:38O'Shea:she debuted in Boston it was nothing but prolonging the inevitable we got Mercedes but remember Athena is still out here too right so we don't want to get too ahead of ourselves could be Sky Blue she might be making you know it might be her time I don't know but I think we both know this yeah it's time bro it is time excited to see and you know what else do we got that was just particular we still got the men's side right we got the Billy Goat Will Ospreay he and Mark Davis had a little rumble Ospreay with all his training with the Death Riders you know they're kind of building him up to become this unbeatable force right now I don't know if they realize what they're doing but yeah him a darker side to will osprey is definitely something that everybody needs to be paying attention to because what i heard was like yeah my sister told me uh yeah osprey he's going to be training with uh the death riders i was like what does that mean yeah first no one understood it yeah he's gonna be hanging on subways and like outside the target after closing like what does it mean strengthening up that net to where you know it's not going to be of issue anymore they'll build them up so we can tear them down I'm telling you and then the other bracket we got our boy Swerve Strickland he's taking on Brody King they're meeting and I gotta believe we're looking at Swerve and Ospreay in the finals of this Owen Foundation it's the biggest money maker like you know I know we just try to do this on the other side but like it makes the most sense and you got Swerve and his new underappreciated self.
1:10:33You got Ospreay over there with a darker side to him because like I told you I didn't know what training with the Death Riders meant. I know nothing about you guys. You just are in stairwells all the time. I didn't know what it would be but we shall see. But now you're seeing. It helped him defeat the Raiders owner Mark Davis and now it's got to be him and Swerver at the end and you know those two
1:11:00O'Shea:just salivate at the opportunity to like alright how can we make this different how can we steal the show and AEW they fiend off that you know those are two people whose IQs in the ring are just so high that it's almost dangerous to put them together but also I know you love Brody King too. That's my dude. That dude is so believable. I look at Brody King and go, yeah, he could mess you up for sure. As soon as he hits the ramp, it's like, oh, 100%. I see it. The dude's money, and he's a good dude. So, yeah. But as far as putting on their little five-star classics that they always try to ring out every single night.
1:11:57O'Shea:It's got to be Osprey's word. Yeah. You know, I do need to see my man Brody with some hardware. That wouldn't stink. You know, it's a good man. And so before we go, you know, I just want to – something I decided to do this week because I always sit here and go, man, these people deserve better. And I just usually just say it to myself. Well, now I'm going to say it out loud. I'm just going to throw some names out here that I think deserve better. And we'll see if maybe we can, by putting this out there, maybe their booking will change a little bit. So who deserves better? Bailey deserves better.
1:12:36We've been saying, I'm going to keep saying this. You know, Bailey seems like the type who she just loves to wrestle. I love to see her down there in Triple H doing her thing. She seems to be having fun, her and Mr. Iguana and Lola. and I don't know man I just
1:12:59I'm at the point where I feel like they kind of don't view Bayley I guess the same way us as fans view Bayley and kind of look at her as someone to put other people over and I hope that's not the case yeah and there's nothing wrong with that yeah there's nothing wrong with that But it's a little early. Yeah. As a Bailey fan, and I've said this on the show before, you know, when I met her before she debuted at the parking structure of the Staples Center back in the day. You know, I've always been just from our meeting and getting to chop it up with her before she, you know, technically got called up.
1:13:40I've got a soft spot for Bailey. So I feel like Bailey, I always say this, I feel like she deserves better. I feel like Ty J deserved better in AEW. The original AEW women's tag team, Anna Jay, Ty Mello, I think they deserve better. They had a tag team championship match, which they did not win. At some point, you've got to give your original women's tag team those belts, man. So I think Ty J deserves better. The aforementioned Persephone, look, she's a CMLL women's champion, right? I don't expect to see her come to an AEW ring and stare up at the lights, or in this case get folded over like Rhea Ripley does them.
1:14:19I mean, her pose, you know what I'm saying. Persephone deserves better, man. I also brought up Talatanga, believe it or not. Look, he's huge. He's got a good look. Just give him a push. He'd be a little bit better. And Chad Gable, as we talked about earlier. We'll see where this goes. I'd like to say I have high hopes for them using him correctly and properly. but I can't tell you that right now Shay but I can just tell you this Chad Gable he deserves better yeah and you know we've seen Tonga and Gable they're showing a little direction in one night they know that they gotta use these guys right now I like that you do think they deserve better
1:15:09O'Shea:but with those two we're seeing with the ladies you named with TyJ, Persephone, and Bailey. I just want to say
1:15:22I didn't think about that when I made that list. I thought I was going to say some inspiration. I don't know what that was. Now I see what you're doing. That wasn't my intention. Now I think about it. They deserve better. Julia! I need Julia. Julia is the other one. Julia. Yes, absolutely. She got a new look. I'm feeling it. Italy put her over. Pop. Yup.
1:15:51O'Shea:I'm feeling it. You know, we got to have EO. EO. EO in that spot. I get that. I get that. I get that. I get that. But now we got Julia and Kiana James. Now they're really starting to beef with each other. I'm liking it. I need Julia to come out of this because Kiana, you know, you're a little baby over. You're a little baby over. just from the secretary to like I'll beat your ass. She's moved on. I think she's a little safer. Julia is taking a lot of losses. I personally would like to see her get a little so I love that list TJ. Thank you. Absolutely. Now I know y 'all don't know where we at right now but TJ can you tell the people where they can find us?
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1:17:36I hope you have a good day, but not too good. It's who the hell you think you are.
1:17:44Bye, Miss Barker. I'm so sick of it. Sit on your hands. I don't know what they're talking about.
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This week O'Shea and T.J. respond to the action in WWE's King and Queen of the Ring Tournaments, including big wins for Women's World Champion Liv Morgan & Iyo Sky on the Queen side and Dominick Mysterio and Je'Von Evans on the King's side. The guys also discuss where the Brock Lesnar/Oba Femi feud is heading, what's going on with "The Bloodline" and more. NCW also checks in on the Men's and Women's sides of AEW's Owen Hart Tournament and the return of The CEO, Mercedes Mone!
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