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11:09Diante Lee:See, this is why Deontay knows content. Billy, you're a man of media. Yeah, Deontay may be a man of content because I haven't heard the name Kyle Williams all week. All we've been doing is here all week talking football. And here we are Thursday late afternoon. He's bringing up a guy I hadn't even thought of.

11:25Sheil Kapadia:In fairness, hands up. I've derailed some of this talking about underwear and such. Yeah, I would agree with that. I will say that maybe you could have heard about him had we not kind of gotten off the rails a bit.

11:35Diante Lee:You know what's weird is that Deontay just mentioned Kamari Lasseter. I know he was here on radio. That is a weird part about being here is that, like, you could just be yelling about somebody and they could be right next door. Like, someone asked me something about Trevor Lawrence earlier, and then five minutes later, Trevor Lawrence was walking over there. These entourages are getting out of control a little bit. Am I right?

11:57Sheil Kapadia:Did he hear you? Are you worried about him? I don't think so.

11:58Diante Lee:I think I said a nice thing about him. It was like, what's his best trade or something? And I made something up. Yeah.

12:03Sheil Kapadia:You know who I saw running around here today, literally running around? Kirk Herbstreit's dog was here. Please.

12:09Diante Lee:Wait, that was his dog? Yeah. I almost stepped on him. What? I did see a golden... No, because I didn't know it. You're not expecting to look down and there's a dog at your feet.

12:18Sheil Kapadia:Hold on a second.

12:19Diante Lee:He did seem as friendly as he looks like on TV.

12:22Sheil Kapadia:Wait, so... My voice is going. If it wasn't his dog, you would have stepped on it. No, it would have been an accident. Then you would have felt bad.

12:28Diante Lee:No, it was going to be an accident either way, but I didn't realize... I was wondering why... Whose dog is this? But a very well-behaved dog. Very well-behaved, but still...

12:37Sheil Kapadia:Why are you running around, dog?

12:38Diante Lee:You don't agree with that. No, no. Be careful. The dog people believe. I was going to say, I am abstaining. You're going to have to take this, Deontay. I love my pit lab mix at home. Peppa, if you're watching this, I love you. Miss, you can't wait to be back.

12:50Sheil Kapadia:It was pro dogs. Pro dogs. Yesterday, we talked about dog adoption and Subarus. But we talked about dog adoptions and Subarus at the same time. Very well-behaved dog. If my dogs were here, they would be running up and down the aisles. They would be peeing on cables. That would be good content. running away from people, hiding, barking, whining. It'd be madness. This dog was not very well behaved, but also walking around without a leash. I feel like Kirk's maybe pushing it a bit.

13:18Diante Lee:Is that a San Francisco thing? I've seen a lot of people walking around with dogs. I think it's a Californian thing. It is? Okay. It's not looked down upon if you walk with your... You have a well... You know what? This is a London... I was in... Not to flex. I was in London over the summer, family vacation, and I noticed all kinds... This was one of my big takeaways. All kinds of dogs not on leashes, but they were so well behaved. No issues. So maybe Cali's... Is it us?

13:39Sheil Kapadia:Are we like bad dogs? Maybe it's the non-California circus. Is that a really part of the problem here? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. My dog, I like to think has fun, but like I don't...

13:47Diante Lee:Well, the other thing. One more San Francisco take. Here we go. Please. Fire it off. The public transportation officials are like motivational speakers. Have you run into this? No. I'm walking down the street and the guy's sitting there off the BART stop, you know, there to help you if you're not sure what to do. And he says, who's winning? Are we winning today? Let's win today. I'm like, man, that is a big difference. Philadelphia, you say that, man. No one's here. But there were people smiling, talking back to them. I'm like, I kind of liked it a little bit. I'll be honest. What do you think?

14:16Diante Lee:Did you win today? No, I don't think I did. But you know what? The podcast is still young. There's always tomorrow. Okay. Those are X factors. Are there any storylines, Deontay, that you feel like everyone's just talking this, Darnold, May? Is there like an angle that you feel like isn't getting enough attention? Are there one of those storylines that you feel like this actually is the thing? This is the narrative that comes out of this game if X team wins. Anything like that that you can think of?

14:45Billy Gil:Honestly, no. I think that we've hit the saturation point on all the serious stuff. I actually am much more invested in a very unserious thing. One of the last X factors I wrote about was kind of like this weird correlation is not causation thing, but between the Kubiak family and the Shanahan family when they've been in this position where they have an impending head coaching job waiting on them. This goes back to 1987 when Mike Shanahan was getting the Raiders job. They play, I forget who they play in the Super Bowl. It might have been the Buccaneers. They got blown out 42-10 before he takes the Raiders job when he's leaving Denver.

15:16Billy Gil:Gary Kubiak, he ended up not getting to the Super Bowl, but if you remember that 2005 Broncos team that had statistically one of the best offenses and defenses in the league, they get totally dominated by Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game that year. And then he goes on to become the Texans head coach. And then obviously you have Kyle Shanahan, who funnily enough is the only coach on that staff that still has to like live with the shame of the 28-3 comeback. Nobody seems to ever bring it up but Dan Quinn or anybody else who coaches on that team.

15:44Diante Lee:The head coach, it never gets brought up. The guy who was running the defense and was just getting totally shredded in the second half, you know.

15:50Billy Gil:But obviously everybody kind of knows that one, right? You have the 28-3 comeback. And now we've got Clint Kubiak in a very similar position. and I would say even more so if you were a superstitious guy, you have got to feel the worst that you possibly could because most people are saying that the Patriots have no shot. And, I mean, you know this as a Philadelphian. I remember when it was Jonathan Gannon holding this seat. And people still to this day, you can bring him up around an Eagles fan and people will go directly to that Super Bowl and talk about it almost as though he was intentionally sabotaging the team's opportunity.

16:21Billy Gil:You wouldn't have known if he was.

16:23Diante Lee:I'm just saying with the way he got it. That was a shot at Jonathan Gannon. Sorry, Packers fans. I'm not here to correct you on that. So, all right. You know, you had the take earlier this week, Billy, that Clint Kubiak looking ahead. Yeah. Do you trust it? Do we trust Clint Kubiak? Maybe that's picking up some steam that he's looking ahead.

16:41Billy Gil:And that's the problem with this. And I kind of wrote about it. It's like, what happens if they get to the red zone and then the drive stalls out and you kick a field goal and you end up losing by four? People are going to say that Clint Kubiak wasn't focused enough. Is it fair to Clint? Yes. Probably not. Oh, no. You know?

16:56Diante Lee:You know what I remember? That Eagles-Patriots Super Bowl 2017. It was like a Wednesday night, and Bill Belichick shows up courtside to see a Minnesota Timberwolves game. And I'm going, that had to make the rounds in the Eagles hotel. This guy thinks so little of you. He thinks he can go spend two and a half hours watching. I don't even know who was on the Timberwolves at that point. But he thinks he can spend two and a half hours doing that because he doesn't need to game plan for you. God, yeah, who was on the Timberwolves?

17:23Billy Gil:Is that like Ricky Rubio era? I mean, you're not even talking about good T-Wolves. No, this wasn't Ant-Man in the mix.

17:29Diante Lee:So who knows? The narratives will come out one way or another. All right. We're going to take a break. During the break, you guys think about, am I ready to give my official prediction? Now, I know you've probably been given 400 predictions this week. This is your official one that I'm going to hold feet to the fire. If you get it right, if you get it wrong, I'm going to bring it up Sunday night and say, no, no, no, I don't care what else you said all week. That was your official prediction. We'll do that when we come back. The Ringer NFL Show is brought to you by FanDuel. It may be the last call for football, but with FanDuel's touchdown jackpot, you can win a share of$6 million in bonus bets.

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19:32Diante Lee:I gave you guys about three seconds to think about that during the break. That's in real time. Of course, the listeners had a different experience. I gave you guys about three seconds. Deontay, lead us off here. The line is four and a half. Seahawks are favored. The over-under is 45.5 in this game. You're right. It feels like everyone's picking the Seahawks, but the line's only 4.5. It's not 10.5 here. What is your official pick for Super Bowl XVI?

19:59Billy Gil:God, I cannot believe I am saying this on Bill Simmons' airwaves. This is going to get me dunked on so hard. I kind of have Seahawks 34, Patriots 14. Oh, the blowout. He's not a coward. I think this is going to be a runaway game, frankly. I would not be surprised at all If we get that opening script, Patriots touchdown, oh my goodness, maybe Drake May can do this. You get a kickoff to Rashid Jahid in a game 7-7, right? I feel like it's going to be one of those kinds of games. And it's not a knock on the Patriots and their journey to this point. I wrote about this last night. But you just look at all the things that you would typically want to see from a real legitimate Super Bowl winning team, and New England just hasn't been pushed enough for us to gather that data.

20:41Billy Gil:It's not to say that they're incapable. We're just working off of an incomplete data set. We don't know what this team's personality is like if it's chasing two possessions, right? Because they just haven't had to spend much time in that kind of mode. We don't know what this team's reaction has been. I guess we do know, and it hasn't been positive, when they're playing against a defense as good as Seattle's, right? They have been able to survive really bad offensive performances and a lot of turnovers throughout this playoff run because their defense on the other side has been playing like the damn 2000 Ravens.

21:10Billy Gil:And unless you believe that that's exactly who this team is, which is not what I think when I watch them and not what the tape would say when you're comparing the Seahawks to the Patriots right now, I think you're going to have a hard time laying out a case for New England to win, especially win comfortably, unless you're telling me that Drake May is going to dig into his 2023 Patrick Mahomes, mid-aughts to late 2010s Tom Brady-esque type of performance. Unless you think you're getting that on Sunday, it is just hard for me to paint a scenario where the Patriots end up winning this football game.

21:45Diante Lee:All right. Seahawks blowout. Not a very entertaining game. Seahawks win 34-14. Maybe early on, like Deontay said, it feels like they got some momentum. They can pull off the upset. But as we move along, it does not. He's not a coward. Why did he call himself a coward?

22:01Sheil Kapadia:Billy, he just picked a 20-point win. He's also a man of content because he knows if that happens, Bill's live right after. we have to be reacting to a blowout Patriots loss.

22:10Diante Lee:That'll do numbers.

22:11Sheil Kapadia:Yeah. Yeah. Presumably.

22:12Diante Lee:That's good for the ringer as a whole, I feel like. Yeah. Well, what would be better? Where would people tune in more to the Bill Simmons podcast, which you can watch live on Netflix right after the game, if it's a blowout or if it's like a last-second heartbreaker, maybe the Patriots do something stupid, or Sam Darnold engineers a game-winning drive. What draws more viewers? This actually might be the biggest question. That's a great question. I think heartbreak. Or I think so too.

22:40Sheil Kapadia:I think heartbreak. I think you want to see live pain and live bokeh. Yeah, I think the Schadenfreude. Yeah.

22:45Billy Gil:Yeah, the Bill Simon Schadenfreude, I think, would draw more of an audience.

22:49Diante Lee:Okay. Well, check that out either way. You know? And then, like Mina said, if the Seahawks suffer that, people will be tuning into Mina Cox. 100%.

22:57Sheil Kapadia:Well, tuning to her after. After. After. Of course. Yeah, you can record that. Yeah, exactly. Netflix Live. Hit record on your YouTube or wherever you watch it. Absolutely.

23:05Diante Lee:All right. 34-14, Deontay says, Billy Gill, the man who this week brought you the ball hammock. Did I say that?

23:14Sheil Kapadia:Is that what it is? I think so. Okay.

23:16Diante Lee:You want to know my score? Give me your prediction. Yeah. All right.

23:19Sheil Kapadia:I'm going to go with Patriots 29. Like it? Seahawks 17.

23:27Diante Lee:Whoa.

23:28Sheil Kapadia:Yeah.

23:28Diante Lee:Okay. Really? See, I haven't felt that from you all week. This is surprising to me.

23:33Sheil Kapadia:Truth be told, I suspected that everyone was going to say Seahawks, so I wanted it to be interesting headed down into the last pick. Man of media. I said, you know what? Let's get a Patriots favorable score here. And then what I did was I crunched the numbers, and by that I mean I put from numbers 1 to 37 in a random number generator, and the first number that I got was 29, and the second number that I got was 17. So that will be the score of the game. And how will we get there, you ask? Yeah, 29. I had to work that backwards after I got the score. I think we're obviously going to be in store for a Sam Darnold regression game that we haven't seen yet.

24:10Sheil Kapadia:You know, I think maybe we have some broken plays on the defense of the Seahawks. Patriots score early. Then Sam starts getting a little desperate, starts saying, oh, my God, am I going to get back to the Super Bowl? This is my moment. I don't want to make a mistake. Starts getting in his head. And that's when you guys know the mistakes start happening. A couple turnovers here, maybe a pick six here or there. Patriots start kind of running up the score a little bit. And Seahawks can't keep up, can't catch up at the end.

24:36Billy Gil:To the point of being a content expert, that's a master class right there. Get to the end and work your way back. Ain't that score? No one's picking that score. 29-17. I'm going to say, that's Scorigami right there. Who's going to Scorigami on the Ringer NFL show?

24:51Diante Lee:No, please. We're done with that. Those days are over. Sorry, Solak. No more Scorigami. All right, let me ask you this. This is a content media question as well. So, you know, I did not think the Seahawks offense was going to be good this year. I ripped their offseason. I said, give me a break. That offensive line with Darnold, Clint Kubiak's not Bill Walsh. They're not going to be able to figure this out. And so my friends, great radio station in Seattle, 710 ESPN Seattle, they had me on a couple weeks ago, and they played the clip of me giving their offseason a C -. It was all in good fun. It was fun.

25:23Diante Lee:But if what Billy says is true and Sam Darnold is the reason why the Seahawks lose this game, do I get to be like, well, see? Or is it no, they got to the Super Bowl shield. Just don't even bring that up anymore. What do you think, Deontay?

25:41Billy Gil:The petty, the little bit of pettiness I have in me. Which I have as well. I would say you got to bring that back around. It's all good nature. It's all good nature. Okay. You know, but I think that it's fair to bring that back around for sure.

25:52Diante Lee:All right.

25:53Sheil Kapadia:We'll see. Yes. 29-17 has happened 13 times in NFL history.

25:57Diante Lee:Ever in a Super Bowl, or you don't know?

25:58Sheil Kapadia:Never in a Super Bowl.

25:59Diante Lee:Okay. Ever in a playoff game?

26:00Sheil Kapadia:Once in a Super Bowl.

26:01Diante Lee:Once in a Super Bowl. What Super Bowl?

26:03Sheil Kapadia:It was the Colts and the Bears in 2007. You are correct. The rain game.

26:08Billy Gil:Yep, the Devin Hester kick. Onside kick.

26:10Diante Lee:Oh, Devin Hester was around here today. Yep. I'm like, who is this handsome man in this gold jacket who I'm going to follow up on a radio hit?

26:17Sheil Kapadia:Oh, Devin Hester. Okay. That was not the onside kick. Onside kick was Saints-Colts, right? That's Saints-Colts. Yeah, Colts. It's late in the week. No one's paying attention to what we said. And for all intents and purposes, it's Friday. Yeah, that's right.

26:31Diante Lee:I like what you did there. All right. I got a weak one. I wish I was more courageous, but I'm just sticking to the one I gave out Monday and giving out throughout the week. I do think there's a chance of a Seahawks blowout. So I like that we're represented on the Ringer NFL show with Deontay's pick, the Seahawks blowout. We're represented with a Patriots upset, with Philly's very scientific approach to this. 29-17. 29-17. I'm going 24-16. I think it could be a bit of a snoozer of a Super Bowl. I hope it's not. We're going to be on the Ringer NFL show together Sunday night, so I hope we've got a lot to talk about.

27:03Diante Lee:But I actually think this could be one of those where both teams are a little conservative in the first half. It's low scoring. You get to the second half. It's like, oh, the Patriots are in it by the score, but it doesn't really feel like they're in it. And then the Seahawks had a late score, and they win this game 24-16. They do cover up the under hits there. So, you know what? We didn't talk about this earlier, but I think we did a good job. One of us can say we're right, most likely, after this game, right? Yeah. I feel like we hit all angles. Now, Deontay had a great question in our little group chat.

27:35Diante Lee:I don't know if you saw this, Billy. Let's finish the segment with this. Next year, who are the teams maybe right now, just gut feel that you feel like we could be talking about on Radio Row? It can't be the Seahawks. It can't be the Patriots. New teams, Deontay. Who do you think? What does the gut say?

27:56Billy Gil:I'm nothing if I'm not a caricature of myself. So I'm going to say for maybe the fourth year in a row that Baltimore will be here. Okay.

28:05Diante Lee:It's got to hit one of these years, right?

28:07Billy Gil:One of these years. So to Billy's one, I'll give my answer, and then I'll work my way back. You get a great Declan Doyle offensive coordinating type of season. You get Jesse Minter turning Kyle Hamilton into the defensive player of the year. You get a healthy, great season out of Lamar Jackson, and that's who we're talking about for Super Bowl 61. On the NFC side, I think you get the old man, Matthew Stafford, comes back. They give this one more shot, and they're able to get over the hump next year. So I think we're going to get a Rams-Ravens Super Bowl 61.

28:39Sheil Kapadia:I like that. Billy, what do you think? Well, here's the thing. I was going to go with Rams, but I don't want to do that because I don't want to have the same teams, right? I'm going to represent everyone. So every fan base feels like they're part of this conversation.

28:50Diante Lee:I think the Rams are the favorites, according to FanDuel. Yeah. Because it's just like they could have gotten there either of these last two years. Absolutely. And if Stafford's back's not going to fall apart, and I'm done predicting when he's going to have back issues, it's like they've got McVay. By the way, they've got two first round picks. They've got that extra pick this year. So, yeah, I think that's it. I'm glad we're represented with at least one Rams pick here. Okay.

29:10Sheil Kapadia:I feel like you are going to say the Bills. So I'm not going to say the Bills. No, I'm not. You're not going to say the Bills?

29:18Diante Lee:No.

29:18Sheil Kapadia:Okay. Who are you going to say?

29:19Diante Lee:I picked the Bills this year. Okay, so you don't want to do that again?

29:22Sheil Kapadia:All right. You're not going to pick the Bills. I'll go. You want to look at yours? No, no, I got it. You're ready. I got it. I got it. I'll go with the Bills since you're not going to say the Bills. Because that's who I believe. That's who I feel.

29:33Diante Lee:You want a coach who doesn't believe in paternity leave, doesn't believe in being there when his kids are born. Correct. That's a football guy you can get behind.

29:41Sheil Kapadia:I want someone who is so focused on his football family. he's not focused on his actual family.

29:47Diante Lee:That's most of them, to be honest.

29:51Sheil Kapadia:But he's got a good quarterback. Okay, yeah. Look.

29:54Diante Lee:It's like it. It's got to happen one of these years. It's got to break right for Josh Allen at some point in time,

29:59Sheil Kapadia:you would think, right? Yeah. So let's say Bills, and then, and this one's not really going out that much on a limb, I don't think. Who are Bears? Ooh, I had that one written down. I thought about that. You want me to switch?

30:11Diante Lee:No, I'm going to switch. I wrote down like four free. All right, okay. direction yeah the Bears you know the Bears are gonna be one of these teams that in August it could be like in one score games they won all these games at the game they're lucky but I'm also like Caleb Williams might be the MVP next year and I'm Ben Johnson with that you know hairless physique who knows what he can do with another year coaching under his belt you know Caleb Williams

30:34Sheil Kapadia:guy yeah I was hoping we talked about him today I was wearing a Caleb Williams

30:37Diante Lee:shirt underneath this really yeah you own a Caleb Williams shirt let me see What has he got there?

30:42Sheil Kapadia:Okay. That's pretty cool. This is Caleb Williams.

30:45Diante Lee:Did you buy that or was that a freebie?

30:47Sheil Kapadia:I bought it and I expensed it at my previous job.

30:50Diante Lee:Oh. All right. I'm going to go with you went Bears. All right. How about the Cowboys get over the hump next year? Oh, come on. Okay. No?

30:58Sheil Kapadia:Now you're being silly.

30:59Diante Lee:No. I mean, listen. They got the quarterback. I thought Brian Schottenheimer did a good job this year. They got Quinn and Williams late in the season. They got some draft capital. maybe the Cowboys bounce back and get to the Super Bowl for the first time. What's it been, 30 years? 30 years? 30 years. There you go. Cowboys. And you know what? This is just going to be, I'm going to pick the matchup that's going to make the most people upset, I think. Chargers. I'm taking the hipster crown for that. Hipsters, I'm going to say the Chargers, Mike McDaniel and Jim Harvaya, you're not going to be able to make those jokes about Justin Herbert that I make all the time anymore because they're going to get over the hump next year.

31:39Billy Gil:You want to talk about the first Super Bowl that breaks records for hate watch? That is 100 % going to be the internet. We are absolutely dunking on whoever ends up losing this game. Sorry. So this is good. We got six teams represented.

31:51Sheil Kapadia:I forgot about McTain. That's a good AFC team to sneaky get in there.

31:55Diante Lee:I think they're going to be good. Yeah. All right. There you go. All right. That has been this segment. Thank you both. I'm going to come right back and do the Ringer 107. But Billy, Deontay, I will see you Sunday night as we recap Super Bowl XVI, my friends. In a brand new location. Brand new location. All right. We'll be right back with the Ringer 107. Today's Ringer 107 is brought to you by FanDuel. Final five picks of the season. We're down one to the Ringer Fantasy Show, but we get to make five picks. That's the rule this week. So we pick the pick against the spread, the total, and then any three picks that are minus 25 or better.

32:35Diante Lee:So let's get to it. You already know my pick. You heard my pick. I'm taking the Seahawks minus four and a half. That's my first selection. And I'm taking under 45 and a half. I just think both defenses have an edge. Both defenses are pretty good. I'm a little nervous about special teams or a defensive touchdown. But you know what? I'm still taking the under. So those are my first two picks. Seahawks against the spread and the under. Next pick, first half under, 22 and a half total points. I think both teams come in and say, we're not giving this game away early. We don't need to be heroes. Let's feel out the opposing defenses and see how this goes.

33:17Diante Lee:So I've got the under first half, 22 and a half total points. Fourth pick, Matt Collins over 24 and a half receiving yards. I feel like they're going to scheme up one explosive play. Matt Collins, if they're down by a lot, now they got to throw the football. So maybe he hits that over at that point, but that's my fourth pick. Matt Collins over 24 and a half receiving yards and final pick. My voice is going. So I'm glad this is my final pick. I got a high dream before Sunday night. Ramondre Stevenson, under 14 and a half rushing attempts. That's minus 122. I don't think the Patriots are going to be able to run the football in this game.

34:02Diante Lee:I don't think they're really going to try to establish the run in this game. I think they're going to put the ball in Drake May's hands. So I like under Ramondre Stevenson, 14 and a half rushing attempts. All right. Today's Ringer 107 was brought to you by FanDuel, odds subject to change. All right, great week in San Francisco. Thank you to Christopher Sutton for producing, Corey McConnell on video, and Ben Cruz on social. Had a lot of fun with Billy and the rest of our guests. We will be back Sunday night after the game. That will be the next show in your feed. Appreciate everyone listening. We'll talk to you then on the Ringer NFL show.

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