Winners and Losers From Week 18!

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1:46Welcome to the Ringer NFL Show. I'm your host, Shiel Kapadia. Today, we are talking week 18 winners and losers. The regular season is over. The Panthers are in. The Steelers are in. The Bucks are out. The Ravens are out after a wild Sunday night game. The playoff seating is all complete. The schedule is in for the wild card round. So where do things stand? Who are the winners and losers from the last week of the regular season? That's what we're going to talk about with my friend, Billy Gill from The Ringer. Let's take a break. We'll come back with Billy. The Ringer NFL Show is presented by FanDuel.

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3:10All right, we are back here on the Ringer NFL show with Billy Gill handing out some winners and losers. Billy, we got to start with the game we just watched. And I'm going to give the winner to the Mike Tomlin voodoo is very much alive. The fourth quarter of that game, the way it ended, the Steelers winning 26-24 on a Tyler Loop. Got his name right. Yeah. 44-yard missed field goal. This comes after a crazy Lamar Jackson interception that TJ Watt intercepted. This comes after Aaron Rodgers turning into like MVP Aaron Rodgers just going up and down the field. Tomlin still got it. You know, he's smiling on the sideline.

3:50They're going to the playoffs. We should have, I should have never doubted him. It's an annual tradition that I doubt him. And then he's always here at the end.

3:57Sheil Kapadia:I don't know how they do it. I don't know how Tomlin does it. We were headed into this. They were saying before the game, which we've been talking about for a couple of weeks now, what's going to happen with these coaches? Who's going to be there? Who's not? They were talking about it on the broadcast today before the game. And now there's going to be that conversation to be had. Definitely with the Ravens. You would assume that the Steelers, I guess, Tomlin has one year left. They're going to talk to Tomlin, see what he wants to do. But for now, they're in the playoffs and they got the prize.

4:23Sheil Kapadia:They get to host the Texans, who have won nine straight games next week on Monday Night Football. So they're in. I don't know how long they're going to last, but the Steelers are in. But now DK Metcalf gets to come back. At least they have a wide receiver. That's true. They can throw the football too. I mean, you know, Rogers has looked pretty good the last month or so here. You know, he had the bad games when he didn't have DK Metcalf in there last week was obviously ugly. And then this game started ugly. But man, their last five drives, they scored three touchdowns and a field goal. That's embarrassing if you're the Ravens defense.

4:55They give up three touchdowns and a field goal. And I can't decide if this is a win for team content or a loss for team content. I didn't know whether to name them a winner or a loser. So stay with me here. You decide. So it could be a loss for team content because I feel like there are people who every time the Ravens lose, that Lamar Jackson doesn't have it, can't do it in a big game. You can't really do that here because he made the big throw on the fourth and seven to Isaiah Likely. They scored two touchdowns on the drives before that. So you can't just do Lamar Jackson. But then it's also a win for team content because of what you were just saying.

5:32We got a whole offseason or at least a few weeks, months here of what are the Ravens going to do with John Harbaugh? And if they move on, where is he going to coach? Is this weirdness around Lamar Jackson? Is there anything to it? Is there nothing to it? Is he definitely going to be on the Ravens next year? So I can't decide. Is this a win for team content or a loss for team content the way the Ravens lost this game?

5:53Sheil Kapadia:I think it's a win for team content because you do have all of that mystery, all of that. oh, finally, we're now headed into yet another season where, yeah, you know, it looks like he can't do it. We also now in the AFC have a situation where we don't have Lamar Jackson in the playoffs. We don't have Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs. We don't have Joe Burrow in the playoffs. This seems to be a path for Josh Allen, but Josh Allen is entering the playoffs with what some are considering his worst Bills team that he's had in a long time. They're playing the Jaguars next week. The Jaguars are looking pretty good.

6:25Sheil Kapadia:They're hosting them. I don't know if you saw Trevor Lawrence was gifted grills after the game today by his team, which. Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah. You got to go find the clip of him kind of celebrating in the locker room with grills. You know, I'm, I'm glad that the game ended up being the way that it happened, where it ended up being somewhat of a shootout in the fourth quarter. Because headed into the fourth quarter, the story of the game, Shio, maybe you enjoy this and you would want to talk about this, was the new spin that the Steelers had on the brotherly shove today, where you had literal brothers pushing each other.

7:00Sheil Kapadia:And the Haywards were just, the older one was pushing the younger one. And it was like, wow, this is revolutionary. It's like, no, this, I mean, the Eagles have been doing this for a long time, except these are just actual brothers pushing each other. And that seemed like it was going to be the big story of the day. And I was like, this is, this is boring. This is not how we shot the regular season end. And then we had a great fourth quarter. That has to be weird, right? I mean, have you worked with your siblings? Like I've never worked with my siblings, but to work with two brothers working together at this age when Cam Hayward is near the end of his career in his what, late thirties.

7:35And it's like, this is their big thing. We're pushing each other.

7:38Sheil Kapadia:That has to be a little weird, right? So I worked with my sister, but like in our teenage years at a summer camp. And I don't think we were ever like in the same group. So it was fine. Luckily for her, honestly, because you'd have to put up with me and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. So sorry, Sheila, you have to do this now. But yeah, you know the thing about it, right, is I don't see how this can be viewed as anything but a gimmick, right? Because you have the two brothers on the same team, which that's fine. That's not that uncommon in sports. Look, Giannis has his brother on every team that he goes to.

8:09Sheil Kapadia:This is just a thing that happens sometimes. You go, you get the brothers. The Gronkowskis had siblings on the Patriots at the same time. So it's not uncommon to have siblings on the team. But But Connor Hayward, who's a tight end, who's 26, who is not known, you know, definitely is not the most known Hayward on the team, right? Him getting the ball as a tight end and being the one that's rushing the ball on this play is weird. But any other person, like literally any other person on this team could be the one pushing him. But for his brother who doesn't even play offense to come in and push him, you can't tell me that this is anything but a gimmick just to have this story this week for whatever reason.

8:48Sheil Kapadia:And now, you know, next week, Monday night football playoff game, it's going to be a talking point. At some point, it's going to be mentioned. At some point, they're going to do it. Cam Hayward is 36. Is there any other walk of life where a 36-year-old shoves his brother 10 years younger as they work together? And it's like, if he shoves him correctly, everybody's celebrating and they're making hundreds of thousands of dollars. This has to be a one-of-one thing. I mean, I can't imagine anything else. In most workplaces, if you have someone who's 10 years older than someone else, shove them, their sibling, whatever.

9:26Sheil Kapadia:It's like a massive HR issue and you're not endorsing it whatsoever. Typically, if the younger person was shoving the older person, it'd be a real problem, right? The older one that's 10 years older shoving the younger one, not as bad. But again, in any other workplace, probably an HR issue. But for whatever reason, that was going to be the storyline of the game until we got the fourth quarter. We got the missed kicks. We got the bomb touchdowns. Like, oh, what a game. I'm glad this is how the season ended. Yeah, it was a great game to end the season. Tariko was on fire. I'm so glad you brought up the last call because that was hilarious.

9:59He's like, they scoured the country. They talked to every kicking prospect in the country and said, this guy's built for these moments. The kick is up. No, I was like, oh my God. Oh no, Tariko. The Rico was on fire in the fourth quarter. I loved it. All right, great game. Steelers, like you said, host the Texans. The Steelers get a home playoff game next week. That'll be the Monday nighter. Ravens. Oh, no, sorry. Steelers host the Texans and the Ravens. Man, the Ravens are going to be in the headlines all offseason. This isn't the last we've talked about the Ravens. We got to find out what happens there.

10:34All right, next winner here, Billy. Got to be the Carolina Panthers. I mean, just the most NFC Southiest of NFC South outcomes. Hilarious outcome. They lose to the Bucks on Saturday. Horribly officiated game, by the way. I usually don't complain about the officiating. I thought that was egregious. Every call went against them. But you know what? Then they get to go home, sit on their recliners, you know, maybe have a cold one, have some nice snacks, and they get to watch the Atlanta Falcons beat the New Orleans Saints Sunday, creating a three-way tie, which means the Panthers go to the playoffs.

11:09they host the Los Angeles Rams. I mean, I read this, Billy, in The Athletic that Dave Canales called owner David Tepper after the game. You know what he said? This was a quote. Is this the owner of the NFC South champion, Panthers? And for the first time, David Tepper got to say yes. How do you think? The Panthers got to be a winner here, right?

11:37Sheil Kapadia:I guess. Yes. I mean, technically, this is probably the loosest winner we could have, right? So they're the winners and that they win the NFC South. But they lost this week to the Buccaneers and then somehow ended up in a three-way tie. And then they end up winning the division because of the tiebreakers. So they needed the Falcons to beat the Saints. You said, oh, wow, they had their game Saturday night. Then they get to go home and chill. And the reward is they get to watch the Saints versus the Falcons, which is not typically a reward, right? But that's what they needed to do to see. And I don't know if you saw this.

12:07Sheil Kapadia:Did you see poor Baker Mayfield? So Baker Mayfield wins on Saturday. And he's also going home because if the Saints win, he's in the playoffs. So he's there and his wife is documenting the entire day. She's putting out videos of him and photos of him. And Baker is struggling and he's stressing these games just like any fan would be stressing these games because it's completely out of his control. It's not a normal situation when teams are playing and he's sitting at home watching because everybody typically plays on the same day of the week. But the Panthers win. I don't know if you saw this, Shio.

12:37Sheil Kapadia:This is going around today. The Panthers, are you aware, the Panthers in their 30 plus year history of existence have never had back-to-back winning seasons? No, I was not aware of that. Wow. So they have like some seasons where they had like the 12 win season and the next season is an 8-8. So it's not a losing season, but it's not a winning season. So somehow in their 30 years, they've never had a winning season. Now, this season, they also haven't had a winning season because they're making the playoffs at 8-9, which we don't need to get into making the playoffs at eight or nine. It's an absurdity, but it's the way that it works when you have these divisions and the division winner needs to get in.

13:11Sheil Kapadia:So we have them as a winner for winning the division, but they have to host the Rams. And I don't think that you can be a winner when you're hosting the Rams because the Rams, I guess we could say the Rams are the winner, right? If we're doing winners and losers, Rams were losers in that they ended up being the sixth seed, but they're the winner or the five seed, but they're the winners in that they get to play the Panthers, who probably are not going to win that game next week, if we're going to be totally honest with you. And then they'll have an easier path in the playoffs. But the Rams are looking like headed into week or heading out of week 15.

13:44Sheil Kapadia:They were looking like they could be the one seed. And then they lose against the Seahawks and it was against the Falcons. And then they, they end up falling out, but they now have a very favorable first round matchup here, which I wouldn't say the Panthers won in any way getting the Rams. Yeah. I think the Rams are a winner. I think if you're not going to get the one seed, if you're not going to play at home, especially this is the best case scenario. Now, the Panthers did beat them. Panthers fans might be yelling, hey, you dummies, you don't remember that game? It was a classic. All right, Billy might not remember.

14:12I remember. A classic. Yeah, the Panthers beat the Rams earlier this season. So they can beat them. Weird things happen, but the Rams are like 10 and a half point favorites. Yes, the Rams are going to be heavily favored in that game. They should win that game. So I think if you're Stafford and McVay, you say, all right, we get over not getting the one seed, not winning the division, but now we get to go to Carolina. We win that game and we have a nice little setup here. Now I did want to ask you about this though. You were mentioning Baker Mayfield's wife was like cataloging on social media, him watching the game here.

14:44Now you've been doing a lot of work, Billy. You're doing Ringer tailgate, you know, you're doing the Ringer NFL show. You're doing stuff behind the scenes. You know, you took this new job. There may be a part of, you know, Your wife might be like, when is your football season over? Because I was thinking about this. Because I had the Bucs initially as losers. I thought, oh my gosh, that sucks. You had to watch that. And now you're out of the playoffs. And then I thought about it more. And I actually think the Bucs are winners. I don't think they'd ever admit it. But I think there's a sense of relief.

15:15Because you know what? When they stopped recording and they got over it, you know what they said? Hey, we can catch up on Pluribus now. Hey, the pit's coming back next week. Hey, you want to go see Marty Supreme next weekend? We got nothing else to do. We got no game here. Hey, you want to watch some golf YouTube videos? You know, work on your, they can do anything they want now. For the next four months, they were an eight, nine team. It's not like they were going to make the Super Bowl or anything. So I actually think the Bucs are also winners, Billy.

15:44Sheil Kapadia:I mean, this is an argument that could be also made, if we're going to be totally honest, for the Kansas City Chiefs. Because the Kansas City Chiefs haven't had an off season for like six years or something, right? So now the Chiefs, they'll reload, they'll be back. I mean, I can't imagine a world, and you correct me if I'm wrong, they're not going to get rid of Todd Bowles, right? Like the Bucs aren't going to replace Todd Bowles. I don't think so either. So, you know, it ends up being a disappointing season. They lost like six of their nine losses or one score games. I'm kind of with you because now, you know, if you're Mrs.

16:16Sheil Kapadia:Mayfield, maybe say, hey, Baker, you know, you told me that we couldn't, everything we had to write down in pencil, we couldn't write anything in pen moving forward for at least, you know, because you know how these quarterbacks are. They all think they're going to win the Super Bowl, even though everyone knows they're not, right? So Mrs. Mayfield was probably like, you know, the next five weeks, let's be real. Five weeks from now, I'm not going to need plans. We're not making the Super Bowl. Baker, I can't tell Baker that. He's going to be frustrated if I tell him you're not going to make the Super Bowl.

16:41Sheil Kapadia:Mrs. Mayfield knew Baker wasn't going to make the Super Bowl, right? So everything was kind of written in pencil. Now we can whip out the pen. Now we start writing, you know what? Let's go on a yacht in, you know, the Maldives or whatever. Let's go to Australia. let's you know let's go to Hawaii now we can do that three weeks earlier it's winter now here right but in Australia my understanding is it's summer so let's head up let's head over down under Australia New Zealand let's get in there the height of summer now that we can we don't have to worry about the Super Bowl and you tell Baker Baker don't even worry about watching I know it's gonna hurt you so much to watch these playoffs you apparently exactly you can't watch next you can't watch the Panthers next week Baker it's gonna hurt you let's go on vacation right now You know?

17:23Sheil Kapadia:They're winners. I think the Bucks are winners here. They're winners. Baker Mayfield's a winner. Mrs. Mayfield's a winner. You nailed it. I mean, it's so easy to spin. Add it to the Google Calendar. You probably already have that. Even when you mentioned Maldives, I'm like, that sounds so much better than getting planted into the ground by Jared First. You know? The best thing about Baker Mayfield too and Mrs. Mayfield is that all of these dream vacations that we have seem like, oh my God, one of those over-the-water bungalows that I see in movies He's like, I would love to do that. Oh, I wish I could do that for my honeymoon, whatever.

17:56Sheil Kapadia:When you get paid$30 million a year, you can do that one day to the next if you want to. So the Mayfields are going to be perfectly fine. Don't worry about them, Shield. And don't forget about that commercial money either. So I'm with you. All right. So Panthers are a winner, but kind of a weak winner. Bucks are a winner, a legit winner. Because you know what? You're going to have a great off season. There's a lot of shows. There's a lot of movies. There's a lot of vacations. And now you got nothing but time. And to Billy's point, you just do the spin. You don't want to be watching this. You can't be watching these.

18:28It'll be too painful. Let's go. Let's get out of here.

18:31Sheil Kapadia:So watch Gilmore Girls or something, you know? Gilmore Girls. Yeah, why not? All right, let's take a break. We come back. We get to some more winners and losers. The Ringer NFL show is brought to you by FanDuel. Football fans, we've waited all season for this. It's time to flip the switch to playoff mode on FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. Right now, all FanDuel customers can get in on the action with a wildcard reward for the NFL wildcard round. Just pick your card and you can win up to a 100 % profit boost. Head to FanDuel.com slash Ringer NFL for a chance to double your winnings for the NFL wildcard round.

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20:32Sheil Kapadia:Do you have a winner for us? I don't know if it had to do with Miles Garrett or what it was, but what do you got? All right, a winner that I had, Gilles, history. We witnessed history today. We've been talking about it. We've been hoping to witness history for a couple weeks now. And no, I'm not talking about, you know, the Trey McBride that we were talking about last week. To be perfectly honest, I didn't even check to see what Trey McBride did today. I forgot that we were witnessing history with him. But Miles Garrett got the sack record. We've been wanting the sack record for Miles Garrett for weeks now.