Rick Glassman On The Paul Rudd Incident, Podcasting and Ricky Gervais

8:33Romesh Ranganathan:Now this is obviously Take Your Shoes Up podcast. We need particular What's wrong? What's wrong?

8:58Thank you

9:01Rick Glassman:This is really sweet Is it?

9:13Romesh Ranganathan:Yes.

9:16Romesh Ranganathan:Talk me through your reaction. I'm trying to analyze your reaction to those slides. I was just being emotional.

9:22Rick Glassman:Like, you knew I needed these. And then I wanted to lean into it, which said, did you make me laugh? It's like, I'm not going to go back into the character. I failed. You know? But, like, I was ready. I was going to do a performance. Well, I felt like you were going to cry. oh i mean i i don't make myself cry because uh that's an outward action i make myself feel something and if i cry and it probably would have come because i'm very expressive this is really sweet i i actually do bring my own flip-flops um to hotels yeah and uh these have your little names on them all of them all four of them yeah and uh it's great i love these thank you and it's probably the right size too right yeah a little small okay but like yeah and these are great for for wet yeah so you could use these in like the shower the bath or the steam room

10:10Romesh Ranganathan:now we came to see you last night at your at the soho theater in order i'm sorry and thank you

10:21Rick Glassman:why are you saying i'm sorry i i still have a hard time accepting people buying tickets to see me perform now i know you two didn't i could put you on the guest list however i like what like i i'm working hard on this i i'm i think i'm really good at it sometimes but like you don't have to be you know you know like i like i'm thinking like what are you doing here and thank you for being here yeah um so then that and also the fact that now like we're meeting to do this like did you come for research like you didn't have to do that you know what i mean like i'm sorry you don't have to come to this okay if you didn't come to this no we came as fans thank you and i'm sorry because you'll is that what you do away si i'm sorry tell me if you could relate to this you ever touring and you're at a city where there's a friend of yours that's there and they say they want to come to a show but they don't just come to the show or say i'm excited to see the show they say i want to come and support you and my thought is always like if that's why you're coming please stay at home yeah i don't need the support i don't want the support the support is actually quite the opposite.

11:27Rick Glassman:It makes me feel like I now have to be like, oh, thank you. This is, I feel like I'm hosting you. You know what I mean? This is actually, wow, this is nice. And you know, like I have to do like fine ways of making people believe it.

11:39Romesh Ranganathan:You are so completely and authentically yourself on stage and you are - That's nice. And you are -

11:47Rick Glassman:I feel like it gets in the way sometimes.

11:49Romesh Ranganathan:Pros and cons, but I think it gets in the way a bit. Well, I sort of think that, you know, from when I started doing standup, Now, my aim is always like, I want this person that you're talking to now to be the same person that you see when you come and see me at a tour show, right? But that's actually quite difficult to achieve, right? Because you've got the pressure of you want laughs or you want to be efficient or whatever you want to call it. And those things can butt up against each other. I just thought you were you were completely honest about how you felt when you came on stage that's where I thought I thought it maybe got in the way like I had anyway go on maybe I'll you were completely relaxed and so the audience then feel like this guy knows what he's doing whether that you know whether you feel like that inside or not is a different thing but that's how it felt being in that room it's actually I don't know how much you think about that you shouldn't take that for granted.

12:49Romesh Ranganathan:That's a really, I mean, there's a lot of people never achieve that. That's a nice perspective.

12:53Rick Glassman:I understand what you're saying. And thank you. I think there's pros and cons to it. It makes me like this, be a very over communicative person. When my frequencies align with a partner or a friend, that's great because this is who we are. We see each other, but like, I know I'm not for everybody. And for the people that I'm not for, or the people that don't yet know they could like or trust me. I just think I'm a lot. I think it's like, buddy, fucking do the joke. But like you saying me being relaxed, I am. Because I know how to allow myself to feel safe. And without that, I'm going to not be, I'm going to be a worse version of myself.

13:36Rick Glassman:So I really feel that this isn't specific to me. I feel this is specific to at least the art form that we do, but I think being in front of or sharing anything in general, the best versions of ourselves are when we're fully present. And it's hard to do that when you have things in the back of your head. So I just want to, I want to figure this out and it's so hard. I love it. I don't talk about standup much on podcasts. I know people always say, oh, it's always standup talk. I really don't talk about it much. And I think cause I'm on tour and I'm, it's really so much is on my mind, I'm loving it and I finally feel good at this.

14:13Rick Glassman:Even like last night when I wasn't feeling in the pocket and like whatever, I still felt like the fact that I was so distracted and not feeling well, but still able to like, I knew my act enough. I'm like, oh, I'm getting better at this. It makes me feel confident.

14:27Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, hello there. Sorry to interrupt the podcast, but it is my podcast to be fair, so I can actually do what I want. I'm heading out on tour with my brand new show, Ramesh Ranganathan Will Change Your Life, all over the UK and Ireland. And I've been told that I actually need to tell people that I'm doing this, which I don't like doing, but here I am telling you. We're talking Dublin 3 Olympia, Bournemouth BIC, Cardiff Utiliter Arena, Birmingham Utiliter Arena, Leeds First Direct Bank Arena, Nottingham Motor Point Arena, Manchester AO Arena, and London the O2. It is an arena, but it's not in the name.

14:57Romesh Ranganathan:In April. And then the night after the O2, I'm doing a show at the Indigo at the O2, which they're calling the After Party, which I'm choosing to find flattering. Please, please buy tickets. Otherwise, it'll be embarrassing. You can get them at romishranganathan.co.uk because we want to make it hard for you. My mum will not be at all of them. So please stop DMing me. See you there. I won't see you. You'll see me. Okay. Now let's talk about Take Your Shoes Off. We're all huge fans of this podcast.

15:28Romesh Ranganathan:It's so, so funny. And you've had some incredible people on. How I saw you in, I think it was maybe the Franco episode that just came out.

15:41Rick Glassman:Yeah, Dave Franco.

15:42Romesh Ranganathan:Dave Franco. He said to you, how long did it take you to find your voice on this podcast? And you said straight away. Is that genuinely the case, that right from the beginning that you were doing that podcast, you were doing what you do now?

15:57Rick Glassman:I have never not been this. And I'm not bragging. There's so many things I could be better with with this. but yeah it's like i oh i just your voice as a comedian i didn't always have it i get that how do i take my perspective and translate it on stage in a way that people think it's funny and also like it makes sense and there's a reason to talk about it this what we're doing is long form a lot of boring parts yours and i accept that so like the idea of podcasting to me doesn't feel much different than having a conversation with somebody. Yeah.

16:33Romesh Ranganathan:You are very honest with your guests, right? You know what I mean? And if they say something that you think that they're, you know, I guess the best way to describe it is if you think they're ducking a question or do you know what I mean? Or if they're giving a thought for the sake of just moving the conversation on, you don't let that go.

16:52Rick Glassman:That comes from something else that I've put so much work into. And I've actually gone back and forth with how much I talk about this publicly because I get self-conscious about it. And I only recently started talking about it on stage again, which is nine years ago or so, I was diagnosed with level one autism. The reason I don't like talking about it is because people think they know what autism is and their idea of it isn't wrong, but that's part of it. And I am not somebody that has the type of obstacles that a lot of people whose children, parents, siblings, et cetera, might have. So when you compare it to things like, I don't, I'm not saying that, but like in my private life, it has connected so many unrelated patterns and it has taught me so much about just the way I'm wired and the things I've learned from having so many peers and some friends now in the neurodiverse space.

17:47Rick Glassman:And when I first got the diagnosis, the big thing that changed for me, And this is what I've been wanting to talk about on stage and I only do sometimes. And I really think it would help make my act connect in a way because I was growing up and I was never really excluded from things. I just didn't have friends and I had no idea. So like a tool, I didn't think I didn't have friends. And look, I can't be like I played at somebody's house sometimes or like those groups. But no, like I would play basketball outside with kids. And then when they went inside, I wasn't allowed in. I wasn't invited to the birthday parties.

18:20Rick Glassman:But when I saw people at school, I wasn't bullied. Yeah. It's just, hey, the joke I have is I never knew. I didn't realize I didn't have friends growing up. I just thought everybody was busy all the time. Like, because I believed you. Yeah. Because that's what you're saying to me. I'm so, so bad at picking up on lies and social cues. And when people were checking their watch, it's because they wanted to know what time it was. And I could tell them, just say, hey, I'm bored. You know? So I often talk about this idea of like logic versus emotion of like, when you connect with something logically, it doesn't have to connect emotionally.

18:51Rick Glassman:Logically, I know this isn't the case, but I'm still having this trauma response, right? When those two things are aligned, I feel that's the idea of like, what enlightenment could be. I understand this. This is how I'm feeling. Great.

19:06Rick Glassman:The emotional side and the logical side was connected to the negative of, I understand why people are annoyed with me. Even now, I do think I'm talking too much, but I... But you're the guest on the podcast.

19:18Romesh Ranganathan:That's the whole point, right? So why do you feel like you're talking too much? Because I am. But I don't think you are. Thank you. But if I'm thinking it, I am. And that's the point I'm trying to make. But I think what you're talking about, that kind of, you know, being direct or whatever you want to call it, you know, what you've talked about. That's one of the reasons why people love coming on your podcast, I think, isn't it? I mean, you're talking about a thing that you've tried to address. Well, you have addressed it, but the way that you're addressing it, I think is why people want to come and talk to you, right?

19:53Romesh Ranganathan:Because they feel like they're having a different type of conversation.

19:57Rick Glassman:I think the reason why people want to come to my podcast is because they've seen a clip that they liked and they're like, oh, I'll do that. Yeah. And the superficial side of a certain caliber guest came on. So it's co-signed the authenticity of this podcast. So maybe it's worth it. And then the numbers of, hey, this many hundreds of thousands of people watch it so I could promote my thing. i think it's a little more curated than that what you're saying is sweet um but i don't know i do

20:23Romesh Ranganathan:listen i get what you're saying and that is the reason why people come on this podcast as well what you're talking about they see a clip they see numbers and whatever i genuinely i i love i think

20:33Rick Glassman:you're so good at this and funny and i really want to i'm i'm genuinely a fan of it and you're so good your reaction shots are so good and you know how when somebody when somebody says something that isn't necessarily a jab, but it could be like you notice it and you either laugh because you think it's funny or you play into the jab and it allows the guest to then realize, it allows the guest to give the guest permission to not have to be like, oh, I didn't mean that. Right, right, right. And it's just, you're very good at acknowledgement. So I actually have a friend, his name is David Finn. We were on a show years ago.

21:10Rick Glassman:He's an actor and one of my very good friends. He's here, he's playing beetlejuice uh oh wicked yeah uh he's he's awesome um and he has a podcast he does with his wife i'm forgetting the name of it they've been trying to have a baby for years and years and they kept having you know complications and they're going through the process of it um anyway he was at the show last night and he saw that you were there and he brought you up uh uh and i'm like yeah i'm doing this podcast tomorrow and he goes it's a it's like the biggest podcast here and pardon me for like i i know the numbers are good i don't know like i'm like it's like i I didn't even realize that this is maybe, I don't know if this is, I didn't know that this was such a big podcast.

21:46Rick Glassman:Oh, it's fucking huge, man. That's crazy. It's such a small space in your ears or shit. Yeah. But I know it's a novelty that you give them and it's fun. But like, I wanted to come on this podcast because of your clips. Right, right, right. Yeah, got you, got you. But now I'm going to introduce myself to this new audience and I, you know. Yeah, this is like. I'm not a teenager.

22:09Rick Glassman:Let me show up. Yeah, this is good. I mean, I love to talk about Paul Rudd. That was a weird one. That was one that I didn't realize I was even supposed to. Because he's been on it a few times now. Yeah. And each time he said it was okay to post.

22:23Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Because for anybody that doesn't know, he suffered some quite serious... Yeah, I mean, I could send you if you want to throw a clip up.

22:31Rick Glassman:Yeah. I'll send you, you could swipe to that. And I'm having a great time. So thank you again for having... Oh, hey. That's all right. I appreciate it. Thank you. This is extremely hot, so I took the... Okay. Oh my god! Put your head back! Shit!

22:46Romesh Ranganathan:Oh shit! That was really hot!

22:49Rick Glassman:Put your head back! Put your head back! Oh my god, I'm gonna call an ambulance. Put your head back, please. I promise this is gonna help. Rick, Rick, 9-1-1, 9-1-1, Rick. I know, I know. That's a good idea, Rick. That's just what I mean.

23:07Romesh Ranganathan:Paul, please walk with me. Please walk with me, Paul. 911. It's okay. I know you're freaked out. I know it's very scary. Okay, Paul. You're gonna be okay, Paul. You're gonna be okay. Get your seat. One, two.

23:23Rick Glassman:Thank you guys very much. All right.

23:25Romesh Ranganathan:You're welcome.

23:28Rick Glassman:Thank you. Where are you taking them? Where is he coming? Yeah, okay. Yeah. I'm here. Okay. NYU. NYU? you said hey alvin come here hi he's very friendly alvin come here are you okay with dogs yeah yeah yeah good you cleared the cables i was gonna say yeah yeah uh okay i'll just remember is this okay yeah it's a good boy all right it's a good boy yeah so there you go that happened

24:05Romesh Ranganathan:what was that like to because a lot of people thought that was a bit didn't they i can't imagine that maybe at first but then like you see how you see it no i get it but even last night somebody said i think somebody in the audience said i really enjoyed the paul rudd bit a lot of people think it's so funny when i think of a bit it's like oh it's stage

24:25Rick Glassman:or yeah i was like i i also like knowing that he's okay i think it's funny and i was i genuinely i I was devastated. No, I know. I could tell you. It came across. He came on, my assistant burnt him. And then he comes back on the - I'm so sorry. No, because like if it's a movie, it's funny. In real life, it's not. No, sure. And then he comes on and he looked horrible. He had burns on his, all over his face. And then he was on these pain pills and he was like saying stuff that in the moment I'm checking, like, is this okay? Like we don't like, I'm the type of person that on the podcast, if your phone buzzes, even if you don't say anything, it's nothing private.

25:06Rick Glassman:By default, we blur the phone screen. Like I'm very sensitive. Sure. I bleep, Nate. It's incredible. I'm sorry. No, it's good. I bleep names. I asked him. Yeah. And then afterwards I found out that he was upset that I posted it because, I mean, a spoiler alert, he poops his pants. Yeah. And like, it's ridiculous, but like. Well, you sort of talk about the fact that, you know...

25:33Romesh Ranganathan:I feel bad. Like, I don't know if I should even be talking about this. Well, it's out there now, isn't it? So I don't know how much... Because I think if you look into... Because I... Well, because, you know, when you're talking about posting it, because he did... He shat himself. And you were talking about the... I know. You okay, Paul? Hey. Oh, yeah, you can smell it. Hold on to me.

25:57Rick Glassman:Hold on to my head for balance. Get your foot out. Yep, perfect. Yep.

26:01Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, okay.

26:02Rick Glassman:We're going to put your right leg through here.

26:08Romesh Ranganathan:But the dilemma you had was that he had shot himself, which is embarrassing, but he's got a huge penis.

26:16Rick Glassman:Which isn't.

26:17Romesh Ranganathan:Which isn't, no. And so then it's like...

26:20Rick Glassman:You should know.

26:23Romesh Ranganathan:So you're right. Sorry. We could talk about something different. But what I'm saying is, you know, then you had the balance of like, do I put this out? Because it will help, not help him. I don't think it'll help him, but it's nice for people to know, I guess, is the point you're making, right? I don't know if it's nice for people to know. That you've got a huge penis. You talk about it quite a lot, don't you? You've got a massive dick. No, I don't talk about it a lot. I acknowledge the elephant in the room.

26:46Rick Glassman:Yeah. Well, it's trunk at least. It's in a big, yeah, yes, yes. My name's Rick Glassman and I have a big penis. That's not my identity. It doesn't, like, I also talk about having a little butt. Yeah, sure. And my left testicle is smaller than my right testicle significantly, because I had a varicosele, which is a bunch of veins, when I went through puberty. So as it grew, my left testicle didn't. And I still am self-conscious about it. If a woman is... I feel like I have to say, I know my left ball is smaller than my right. I just want to get it out there. You shout it. But she's so distracted by like...

27:16Rick Glassman:You ever use wired headphones? Yeah, sometimes, yeah. There's certain ways you could roll them to where... But you put them in your pocket long enough, it's gonna... You're gonna get a knot. You're gonna tangle it, yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's gonna get a look like you're gonna have to... And a lot of women, they don't notice my testicles, because while they're down there, they're like, f***ing my massive cock.

27:37Romesh Ranganathan:Bleep that.

27:38Rick Glassman:Bleep that.

27:39Romesh Ranganathan:Which bit do you want bleeped? Unrolling.

27:48Romesh Ranganathan:How did you end up getting... You can basically book... It feels like you can book anybody on your podcast. Well, can't necessarily book Ricky Gervais, but we're getting there.

27:57Rick Glassman:Nice.

27:57Romesh Ranganathan:You can't book him?

27:59Rick Glassman:Well, we're very close.

28:00Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. He'll come on, right? He'll make a text. Yeah. He'll text. Yeah, he'll text. You'll text. I'll text. You want me to text Ricky Gervais?

28:09Rick Glassman:I mean, I wouldn't ask. Thank you. Okay.

28:13Romesh Ranganathan:You want me to text Ricky Gervais?

28:15Rick Glassman:Yeah, and I'll text...

28:16Romesh Ranganathan:How do you want me to word it? Joe Mantegna, for you. Great, thank you. How would I word... How do you want me to word me to text? I'm not going to say.

28:22Rick Glassman:You do whatever you want. No, but what sort of thing do you want me to say? Rick is such an interesting comedian who I really think you would get on with very well. I know that, you know, Ronald has reached out to you about it and like, I just, I'm not saying you should do it, but like you should definitely look at it and if it ever makes sense, I really think you would really enjoy being on his podcast.

28:43Romesh Ranganathan:I don't know, whatever you want. I'm just saying, I'm with a brilliant American comedian, Rick Glassman. He'd love to have you on his podcast. Nope. No.

28:50Rick Glassman:Already we're approaching him with a request as opposed to. So I went to school for business marketing. I took a lot of advertising classes. Also a little bit of theater. What I learned is, and this is so true, and I've been in sales. I mean, hell, I'm still in it, right? Absolutely. That if you're trying to sell tickets to the show to make money, then you're satisfying my needs. That's not how you sell somebody. And that's not how you keep a customer. The way you sell somebody is by satisfying their needs. And if you don't need what I'm selling, if you don't want what I'm selling, I genuinely do not want you to buy it.

29:26Rick Glassman:I'll be insecure the whole time. I'm not saying, hey, Ricky, would you please come on my podcast? What I'm saying is, and only if you mean this. Ricky, I really think you would enjoy this and let him make his decision. I'm with this community, Rick Glassman. I think you would love him. He's so funny. I don't know if he even has the time. You want me to imply that you don't have the time?

29:48Romesh Ranganathan:You don't know if I have the time. Don't even worry about it. So, Ricky, I'm with Rick Glassman. He's probably too busy. No, no, no, no.

29:59Rick Glassman:Then it sounds like I'm peacocking. Here, give it to me. Okay. Oh, you're being serious. Yeah. Oh, no, you don't have to. I'll do that.

30:13Romesh Ranganathan:Please don't send it. Of course not.

30:16Rick Glassman:You know what I'll do just in case? you know just in case i'm putting on airplane mode so if i accidentally said okay great great uh hi ricky i'm with a brilliant comedian rick glassman he's busy as shit and he hates you i'm just kidding that wasn't funny i'm not funny but you know who is joe montagna and i'll get him for you thank you

30:37Rick Glassman:there is something about him that makes me think of you in the best way I, is this true? I know you don't love doing podcasts. I think that's probably true, yeah. I know you don't love doing podcasts. No, he doesn't. If there's ever anything you want to promote or have a good time. If there's ever anything you want to promote or if you're interested. This is tough. Hi, Ricky. I'm with a brilliant American comedian, comma, Rick Glassman. there's something about him that makes me think of you in the best way. I think, I truly believe you would love him. I know you don't love doing podcasts, but if there's ever anything you want to promote, I think you should make his podcast your first stop.

31:43Rick Glassman:he is terribly busy and his penis is nice yeah um so now you make that your own but we're not asking him you don't ask and then okay all right i think i like it yeah i reckon with the brilliant

32:00Romesh Ranganathan:american comedian there's something how you really did put all of this in there is something about that makes me think of you in the best way i truly and it's not just because you're both your names

32:09Rick Glassman:Ricky, ha ha ha, sorry, I'm in a silly mood.

32:17Rick Glassman:I forgot what I was talking, oh, yes.

32:19Romesh Ranganathan:Ha ha ha ha.

32:24Romesh Ranganathan:I'm in a silly mood, I don't, yeah, okay. Oh no. What? Well, maybe you send it that way, at any other podcast. Do you want me to send it now? Yeah, but you could change, you could get rid of silly moods. Okay, let me just do a little bit of editing and then I'll send it. Wow.

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34:09Romesh Ranganathan:Well, I've texted him, so let's see what happens. Doesn't matter. Check if he wrote back real quick. He doesn't often reply straight away, but I'll check before the end. We've got a question from my mother. I don't know what this question is. Let's hear it.

34:23Rick Glassman:Hi, Rick. I'm Ramesh's mom. How are you, my dear? I'm good, thanks. How are you? You're so funny and handsome, too. I have seen your podcast with your parents. it's so funny anyway dates are good for you i always eat them i do podcast with rome listeners say they want more of me what your favorite dish your mom made rome loves my repress pause for a second i'm sorry i i don't know if this is racist yeah i think it probably is i don't know she loves

35:01Romesh Ranganathan:dates she loves that look i'm gonna be honest with you topic wise it's all over the place yeah i don't i don't fully blame you for not being able i think i talked to maybe uh i did i mean

35:11Rick Glassman:did she really watch an episode with my parents because i did talk about dates with my mom in an episode years ago yeah okay um and then what then what is more of her more screen time yeah she wants more screen time listeners say they want more of me cute what do you favorite dish your mom made

35:30Romesh Ranganathan:What do you fare a dish if I may? No, no. What's your favorite? Don't be so racist. What's your favorite dish that your mom makes?

35:38Rick Glassman:Romesh loves my aubergine curry, which I make so often.

35:43Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, correct.

35:44Rick Glassman:Thanks for doing the podcast with my son. Have a great day. Lots of love. Bye-bye. Bye. So cute. I think you guys need more of her. So my mom isn't much of a cook. That's what they're saying in the comments. Your mom's not much of a cook? No, but let's see if she disagrees.

36:08Romesh Ranganathan:Can I help you?

36:09Rick Glassman:Oh, are you okay? Oh my God, I forgot what time it is there. I'm so sorry. That's okay, darling. I'm sorry I woke you up, Mom. I'm so sorry. There was a wonderful woman. Yeah, she's a woman, yeah. who, and the mother of the person's podcast I'm on now. And she submitted a question and she said she loves dates just like you. And she does a podcast with her son like you have with me sometimes. And they want more of her the way our listeners want more of you. And she asked what my favorite dish that you cooked was. I'm sorry, what? What favorite dish that I made that you liked? Yeah. Do you?

36:55Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. I did. I used to make this, um, this, uh, uh.

37:00Rick Glassman:If you're going to say that pineapple chicken. Yeah. You haven't made that since, but I think my bar mitzvah. Honestly. Yeah, right. In the past 20 years.

37:08Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, I know.

37:09Rick Glassman:In the past 20 years, a meal that I made that you like? Yeah. A meal that you've made. Have you made a meal in the past 20 years? Instead of ordering takeout or something?

37:19Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, I've made pasta.

37:20Rick Glassman:Or, or you like factor meals, don't you?

37:24Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, I love Factor meals.

37:26Rick Glassman:If you guys want to try it, you can go to factor.com slash Taiso, by the way, for free shipping.

37:30Romesh Ranganathan:Great, thank you.

37:32Rick Glassman:Their food is unbelievable. She loves you. I call her for all the commercials. Anyway, I'm sorry I woke you. I love you. Is there anything you want to plug? No. All right, I'll talk to you later. Sorry I woke you. I love you, sweetheart. I love you. Bye. Love you. Bye. What time is it? It is 14 here. So it's minus eight. Yeah. 6.15 a.m.

37:56Romesh Ranganathan:6.15 a.m. Okay. That was nice that she answered. Yeah. So what did she say? Factor meals? Yeah, she doesn't cook.

38:03Rick Glassman:At all? No, I remember my dad once hid something in the oven. I don't remember what it was when we were kids. And waited like when my mom would find it. And it wasn't until the next Thanksgiving. It was like eight months. She even opened the oven. Really? Yeah. So what did you eat? When we grew up, my dad was in the restaurant business. Right. So we ate there a lot. yeah and a lot of burger king when i was growing up burger king's great isn't it i don't eat it anymore because it scares me but yeah what do you mean it scares you just the the meat that it just it's great it's i'm not and i'm like it's bad for you it's bad it's processed but you walk by and you smell and also sometimes like if i if you get something or a burger or a chicken sandwich and it's in like the paper it's something about it it's just like i used to every year where i

38:48Romesh Ranganathan:is where i wanted my birthday i did a burger king every year loved so mom's on the podcast people lover, prefer her to me. And that's great. How do you feel about bringing your parents into the public space of that? Why do you ask? I think I understand, but what's your curiosity? Because it's sort of exciting. It's not exciting. I'm happy for my mom that people like her and it's good, but I also feel kind of protective over, I then also get nervous about, because Because you sort of go, we've signed up for this. And also, I don't know how much you get. Obviously, with all the positive and people being into the podcast, you get some shit as well.

39:31Romesh Ranganathan:I don't mind that. I don't want that to happen to my mom. Do you know what I mean? So there's a bit of a double-edged sword.

39:39Rick Glassman:Yeah, the access is something that is the pros and cons. I don't love giving people so much access to me every week. It's the cost of this job. I'm grateful that you want to watch. I'm grateful that it helps people want to come see my standup. And I love this opportunity to do this stuff. And if you wanted to meet and talk with me for two hours and we could all hang out and we didn't have to put it on camera and I was making a living elsewhere, I would maybe lean toward that because it's none of your business, respectfully. it's so many so what i have found is there are certain made-up rules and like these are things i won't really talk about and then i have that my parents don't have that i have the luxury of being able to edit it um but still i'm like i'm not sure i know i don't love it and i love they're my best friends they're so funny i i love being with them i love how much people like my parents Before I had sponsors, I would do an advertisement for my dad's Northeast Ohio in the States local area rug store Marshall Rug Gallery.

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41:22Rick Glassman:and uh people go to that store because i sell merch of it to buy the sweatshirts like it's not thousands of people but i'm shocked with how many people and like they don't sell that shirt i just do it as a joke it's like a merch and literally all over the world i'm selling hats and sweatshirts that are marshall red gallery People go into the store for that. My dad gets recognized and he loves it. And the comments, my dad has an unbelievable head of hair. It looks like he has a thumbnail and then just lettuce. And like, there's so many comments about his hair and how funny he is and my mom. And when they're on episodes or when my dad even does commercials with me, he'll read all the comments and he loves them.

42:04Rick Glassman:He loves them. And they are, as far as YouTube is concerned, how mean people could be on there and comedy podcasts, how mean people could be. I am honored to say I think that the comments and the fan base of my podcast are some of the nicest people. My audience is, and I've said this before, is built up of just really attractive women and socially awkward men. It's perfect. Yeah. So they just see all these nice comments. But like, I have a Patreon. I don't use it too much. My dad's like, really missing out on this Patreon, baby. We got to get more into the Patreon. I could do episodes. We'll do them.

42:40Rick Glassman:Mom and me and mom every week. I could do movie reviews and all these things. And I'm like, I think that would fucking crush. But I don't know what you're going to be saying on there. Yeah. I can't do it. Yeah. I can't do it. Like my dad says some outlandish stuff sometimes. And like. I remember once I was doing this TV show and a friend of ours, a female, was there watching too. and then we were all hanging out and then we all leave and my parents were in town and we go outside and and putting something in the trunk he had just met her not even that day moments ago and we put something in the trunk and could it fit and my dad's made some off him which he doesn't make sexual jokes like this too much but he'll just whatever and he said something about like if i'm fitting in your trunk or whatever it was like and i remember thinking like that joke's totally fine it's a harmless joke but also i don't know how like that's my dad that's weird like and and i was in a position that i think i put other people in a lot where i'm like he's just kidding he's just joking and like i see people do that to me and it really was a huge like changing point for me like oh sometimes when i think that i'm making jokes at my expense other people feel responsible for you know hosting me or or vouching for me and it's it changed it It was a little, it was not that big of a thing, but like, I don't know how many people question that like people are who they are, especially once you hit 30 and above.

44:14Rick Glassman:This is who I am, love it or list it, you know? Yeah. Like I'm a guy, this is who I am, like I'm the type of guy that loves love it or list it. The show, do you guys have that here? It's a show, a real estate show in the States where you have two couples and one person wants to keep their home, but upgrade it. Another person wants to move. So you have two people come in. You have a real estate agent come in and a designer come in. The designer makes the home as nice as they can. The real estate agent tries to find the house that's the nicest house they can.

44:43Romesh Ranganathan:Kirstie and Phil have done it. Kirstie and Phil have done it. It's a similar thing, isn't it? It's cool. We've got that show. Oh, well then what the fuck? What do you mean, what the fuck? I didn't know that was a... If I say, do you know what Shark Tank is? you could say we have dragons then. Yeah. That's okay. I understand what you're saying. You're annoyed because I didn't find, I didn't immediately identify the UK equivalent. I'm just playing annoyed. I'm so, thank you for having me. Really? I'm playing annoyed that you're annoyed. Funny. I didn't know Kirstie and Phil did a UK equivalent. Oh, it was actually called Love It or List It.

45:19Romesh Ranganathan:Fuck me in the face. I'm so sorry. Really?

45:25Rick Glassman:Ass first? Ass first. Oh, because when you said fuck me in the face, I thought you were saying maybe in the ass first. And if you were my dad, I'd be like, he's just joking. He's just kidding. But it's good to be here, man.

45:40Romesh Ranganathan:What got you into comedy? We can snip this out. So yeah, we do have Love It or Listen. I think it started here.

45:47Rick Glassman:You have to snip that out. I had the fun joke about my dad.

45:49Romesh Ranganathan:No, no, but I want to look like I'm informed. Do you know what I mean?

45:52Rick Glassman:No, it's not like we're talking about Dragon's Den, dude. Love It or Listen, a lot of people don't know. I didn't even mean to say Love It or Listen. I meant to say, love me or hate me. This is who I am. It's like, brother, this is who you are today. If you love it, then great. But do you love it because you're unaware of how you affect other people? And if that's the case, why don't you learn how it affects other people? And then you could still decide to love it. But once you have that new information, you might want to change some character traits of yours. So I've just like, that's been my journey a lot.

46:20Rick Glassman:And I'm comfortable putting my failures out there because I've accepted it. I don't love introducing my world to that.

46:31Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, I totally agree. And I do. I am excited that people love my mom. I find it really great. And my mom's been through some shit. And so to see her being celebrated is an amazing thing. But I just feel really protective. Do you feel comfortable saying what your mom has been through? I mean, my mom has talked about it at length on the podcast, but you know, my dad was a bit of a, my dad's no longer with us, but he was, he, he made it, he gave, he gave my mom quite a difficult time. I would say, you know, he was sort of, he was sleeping around a lot, wasn't very communicative, got drunk a lot.

47:06Romesh Ranganathan:We ended up getting our house taken away. We were, you know, it's like a, he ended up going to prison. So my mom had a tough time of it. And there was a time when I, she was, I couldn't envision a time when we'd be okay, like financially, whatever, emotionally, financially whatever so now i'm seeing my mum in her 70s sort of being on this podcast people loving her you know she's got this like you know all of the comments talk about how much that you know and she's like become this kind of celebrity it's an amazing thing do you know what i mean but at the same time you also know this that you know i don't want and also she needs to be protected the edit does her some favors i'm not i'm not going to lie to you you know so the idea that But sometimes she gets offers, and I'm happy about this, it's not an ego thing, she gets offers without me, you know, to go and do something.

47:59Romesh Ranganathan:That makes me incredibly nervous.

48:01Rick Glassman:Yeah. Because you know, I don't get cancelled by being connected to her.

48:05Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, that, I didn't even realize what you were saying.

48:07Rick Glassman:I know the joke, but like you're saying when she does her favors, you mean in that way,

48:10Romesh Ranganathan:like she'll say some... I mean, she just, what makes her great is what makes it potentially dangerous.

48:16Rick Glassman:so I go back and forth with this of like so that worry that you're worrying for her in truth is your worry that you're carrying and if she doesn't have it it doesn't belong to her so you're worrying for her for her but it's really about you and on the other hand she's getting so much out of it that she enjoys I say this for me like my parents love my dad loves it so like there is something I don't know I don't want to do this I don't want to do this but like that's am I taking something away from him. And I do, I go back and it's not that dramatic, but it's just this perspective I go back and forth with.

48:48Rick Glassman:And the truth is, unfortunately, and I understand it when going through this filter system, how much does it mean? Is it a little thing for me and a big thing for somebody else for all those things? You have to get through the door of, um, opening yourself to the public. And that's a door that I feel that, you know, I'm the dad and he's the kid with, and you're not old enough to be on social media you know i don't mean that literally but like as a parent like there is a protective thing i feel sure like some people are fucking weird you know yeah and like what if they go up to you know they come up to me i know how to handle it you know i remember when i first went on tv uh and it wasn't a show that many people knew but my mom i was always doing stuff with my mom so people were tweeting stuff and tweeting at my mom and my mom was just befriending everybody back and messaging everybody back and i'd be like you know 80 at least of the people you're messaging are not only is it fine it's probably awesome yeah but every now and then and i don't know if she would know the difference you know

49:50Romesh Ranganathan:my mom she uh messaged me she called me and she said i said what are you doing today she said i'm meeting this couple at this cafe right and i said oh who are they and she said there's people that messaged me and said they're fans. I said, what are you talking about? And she goes, oh, they said they like me. They messaged me on Facebook. So I'm just going to go meet them for a coffee. I was like, you've got to cancel my money. Your mom really loves dates. Okay, we're going to play a little game for you, with you. It's called Misquoted. I've got some quotes here. Some of them, you said some of them we've made up or altered something you've said.

50:25Romesh Ranganathan:And you've just got to tell me if you think this is true or false.

50:26Rick Glassman:So this is, did I actually say this or not? Correct. I don't know this game. You don't always play this, do you? Yeah. Yeah, we do. This is such a stupid game. I never said that.

50:42Romesh Ranganathan:It's misquoted. Here's your first one. Good luck. I scored against LeBron. Slam dunk the funk. I say it every day.

50:50Rick Glassman:I scored against LeBron. Slam dunk the funk. I would immediately... If you... If we were hanging out with a bunch of people and I didn't know you and you walked over and you said that, I would immediately think you were an undercover cop.

51:05Rick Glassman:What's up, boys? Oh, real quick, I just want to let you know, I once scored against LeBron James. I slam dunked the funk. Do you have any cocaine?

51:17Romesh Ranganathan:Send that clip to Ricky Gervais. Pardon? Send that clip to Ricky Gervais. Yeah, we'll do. I'll clip that. Yeah, it's going to be great. But you're amazing at basketball, aren't you? That's not for me to say.

51:28Rick Glassman:But if you want to pull up, if you want to go check, we'll do a clip of I am phenomenal and we'll put up a text to say you know the thumbnail if you want to watch we swipe back you'll put the thumbnail up and say if you want to watch

51:37Romesh Ranganathan:because I think Rick Glassman has this great photo of him playing against LeBron James in high school which is just an insane thing

51:43Rick Glassman:I heard he's really good Rick's really good somebody told me that like he was I think playing a pickup game with someone like somebody in entertainment and they're like hey man like you gotta dial it back a little bit hit that Baldi catch the fucking ball dude you're not aware of how other people perceive you. What are you talking about? Good take, you idiot. What? Are you not entertained? Got it. Let's go, let's go.

52:18Romesh Ranganathan:Are you fucking nuts?

52:20Rick Glassman:I am phenomenal. I got big balls. I got a cool guy haircut. I love that. I don't even know what you swipe to. But if that was my video, I'm phenomenal. Yes, it's based off of a true story of getting kicked out of a basketball game. This is when I was talking about how I always thought I was the first picked and everyone loved me. And I found out that some guys don't even go when I'm there. How close was what you're doing in that to what you actually did? It was very inspired. Joel McHale plays my old boss, Bill Lawrence, who has the conversation with you. It was an email, but he sent in an email.

52:56Rick Glassman:And it was a very, I mean, it was the inciting incident to me learning about myself. It was a beautiful email. And Joel's script was that email. Right. Almost word for word, with the exception of when Joel improvised that how much he likes anal sex. And then Bill told me that people are going up to him because they thought that was his email. I think that's so funny. But so that was all based on very true things. but the character I made was me, how I think, is this how they saw me? So it was a little bit heightened. It was also, I never knew I was going to post it. I filmed, it was three different things and I filmed it because I was writing this show, um, about an adult men's basketball league, adult men's league, rec league.

53:41Rick Glassman:And I wanted to film it because I've made stuff. And after I edited it, I'm like, Oh, I kind of like get what this is now. So I like made this as this temporary thing so I could help write it. And then I ended up not doing anything years later. I'm like, Oh, I thought there was funny parts. So I filmed different things. Kind of like Frankensteined it together. But it was definitely real.

54:00Romesh Ranganathan:So that email was like a life changer for you, I guess, or an epiphany. It gifted you with an epiphany, right?

54:07Rick Glassman:The directness that he spoke to me at and the point in my life when I was able to receive it. Because I remember I've learned that it's a lot easier to receive things if you're interested in the information, meaning like it doesn't affect the ego as much if I am like, oh, am I being too loud? Yeah. I'm not, it's not me being a bad, like, is that what you think?

54:28Romesh Ranganathan:But if I said to you, and I'm not thinking this, but if I, if I, if I said to you, Rick, I didn't like the way you did this, you've done the way you're talking right now, can you just chill on that? You don't feel, you appreciate the information. You don't feel, there's no sting to you in hearing that.

54:43Rick Glassman:I'm a human. I guess it depends on the situation. if I'm totally blindsided and I'm feeling so connected and I'm realizing, oh, I'm way off, I might feel a little bit of embarrassment and shame. And also like the shame being of like, oh, I've regressed. I'm that again. But the truth is in most times, and especially in a situation, like if you said that now, my first thought would be like, one, thank you for telling me that. And also too, could you tell me what happened? You feel safe enough to tell me how you feel. like i now now it's like the mario star and now i we could we're not worried about like you you're not going to just check your watch you'll tell me you're bored before that wears off tell like what did i do and then you might say something where i'll be like oh fuck i'm so glad you told me that yeah and then you might or you might be saying something like oh we were just different people like i get it maybe we're not for me but no i never scored on lebron and i said i scored on Brian slam dunk by Willy Wonk.

55:40Rick Glassman:Thanks.

55:41Romesh Ranganathan:You're welcome. Uh, your next one. I'm the back hurts, funny kind of Jew.

55:45Rick Glassman:Yeah. No, you said that on there's the good looking Jews and then, uh, who that aren't funny. Um, and let's just be real. They don't tip and that's maybe where it comes from. Uh, and then there's my back hurts. Um, and like, could I, you know, like, will you please write down my order? I, I'm not saying you have a bad memory, but it makes me anxious with all my modification. Just what do you, what do you, what do you try? If you're trying to impress me, you're doing the opposite. Just write it down because then you're going to come back and say, did you say raw or grilled onions? And I'm like both, but now also like, do you remember no butter on like, but like, I'll be funny and I'll tip you well.

56:16Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Got you. Okay. Makes sense. They're not as attractive. Uh, here's your last one. There's so many levels of online dating that Instagram is the real world.

56:28Rick Glassman:Uh, I know what that means. And if you say yes, there's no way that's a quote because it's close, but no, I never said that. Oh, what's the actual quote? I don't know what the quote is, but I know like that isn't right. What I thought is, I don't think it's the real world, but because I've met so many people online and it's not specific to dating, it's more so I would say to booking podcast guests, but like that, that doesn't feel as, as, as, um, fake and digital as posting does. Like if I were to direct message you how we met, it's, I'm not going to meet you in real life. So Instagram, I don't think that's not real life.

57:06Rick Glassman:I think when you post it's, we're all selling something and that's not real. But I think being able to message somebody and talk to somebody is no different than like looking up somebody's phone number in the yellow pages and calling them. So it's, it's not about dating, but I think that like Instagram, I sometimes, cause I don't drink, I don't go to bars. I do sometimes think like Instagram is like, that's the bar for me.

57:28Romesh Ranganathan:Right. So what's your, what's your dating process then?

57:34Rick Glassman:the past four relationships i've been on have been we met online right in some way uh twitter twitter instagram instagram um and it wasn't necessarily me like hey will you date me um usually if i meet somebody online especially but anywhere there's a long process i've had a fair amount they're usually long distance relationships too which is not what i'm seeking and I keep going back and forth. Is that some subconscious thing? And I don't think so. I think it's more, there's more people to meet when you get rid of the filter of, they have to be within 20 miles of me. Yeah. And then you've just FaceTime for months and they're like, okay, I'll meet you.

58:16Romesh Ranganathan:Really?

58:17Rick Glassman:Yeah. Yeah, I don't love, when I date somebody, when I go on a date with somebody, logically I'm aware I won't, I don't know you yet, but emotionally I'm like, nah, we're not on the same frequency. It's not worth it. So I have recently been trying to just go on at least three dates with a person before you decide otherwise, even though I know. And I'm like, no, my instincts have been pretty spot on. Yeah. I don't know. I am ready for a family yesterday. Like I want to meet my person. I want to start a family. I want to be making money for a reason as opposed to making money because now I'm not as worried about if I'm able to pay my bills.

58:59Rick Glassman:I want to be able to support somebody I want somebody to help me I want it so much I don't know what it is but I venture to say I'm maybe not doing it efficiently It's time to start thinking about this Yes We're almost at the end of our podcast

59:16Romesh Ranganathan:Time I thought you were going to say time I was going to say time I don't know why I changed it Anyway, we like to end the podcast on a big moment Each other's sentences Good, really good what I'd love to ask you is could you give us some sort of exclusive like something you've never said publicly or a bit of advice or something you know juicy right is there anything that springs to mind I mean so much

59:45Rick Glassman:I just I don't know I've never said it publicly something I've never said publicly literally you never know what you don't No, but sometimes. What's the difference? I don't think I've ever said that. I don't. I mean it. Thank you.

1:00:12Romesh Ranganathan:Wow. I also feel like maybe that's a little bit of advice. Yeah. No, really not. Really nice. I don't want to leave.

1:00:23Rick Glassman:You don't want to leave? I I'm um yeah uh this is what I was talking about about making friends yeah we have a podcast so like you're like yeah I'll talk to Rick for a little bit yeah but like to be able to talk to somebody and then to have some other people just over there every now and then be like that it's great isn't that might this might be that's my yeah I don't I don't have you know I have a camera operator shout out to McCone and Miranda in there but like yeah this kind of feel it doesn't feel like an audience because i know you're all here doing a job that you're supposed to be doing uh and you're you're an audience yeah and you haven't been laughing in a way where it feels like oh they're you know like you ever do a table read at a or like a run through at a multi-camp and all the writers are like haha you know trying to keep the jokes going it's like stop it yeah i feel that way when like when people applaud like when you i i don't remember if i said it last night but i've been saying recently this is my because i i used to acknowledge it but it was such a waste time like you guys please you don't have to do that yeah you don't do that but now what i like to do is when i when people like are doing that something i like to like take it in like pretend like i'm really like that felt really good you're like is that what you think is the story for me wow that that was really nice thank you yeah um uh but every now and then there's a little bit of a laugh and it's like i it's awesome i kind of want to have i want to have producers for multiple reasons and now I have a new one.

1:01:49Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. And look, I can speak, I think I speak for all three of them and I say that they'd much rather do work on your podcast than continue to work on this one. Well, how about you, maybe the reason you feel that way is because you're so busy speaking

1:02:00Rick Glassman:for them.

1:02:03Romesh Ranganathan:What podcast would you rather work on? You're a real piece of shit, aren't you? Right at the end. Thank you for telling me what could I do different.

1:02:12Romesh Ranganathan:Oh shit. Hold on one second. Oh yeah. What about Ricky? Thanks. I'm in Copenhagen at the moment, but I'll pass this on to my peeps. I'm up for it.

1:02:46Romesh Ranganathan:Shanti joins me to answer your questions and family dilemmas. I'll see you Thursday with mum who, let's face it, is who you're actually here for. If you've got a problem you want to solve or a story you want to share, send it to podcast at rangabi.com, voice not or text us on 07731 623 355. We can't promise good advice, but you might end up on the show. See you soon.

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