Will Arnett: Why People LOVE Bojack Horseman & Pretending To Be A Comedian

23:04I kept joking that going into it, they were going to have to rename it Life in Picture for me. And we started talking about BoJack. And the moderator asked how many people in the audience had seen BoJack. And I'm not joking when I say 99.9 % of the people put their hand up. And I found it quite astounding because I get a lot of questions about BoJack when I do anything. Yeah. And people draw. So I have a very funny relationship with it. And my friend who I work with, who, you know, I hate the word publicist, but that is what he does with me. He's a crisis manager. Not true. He always said, you know, I think that you don't realize how many people really like BoJack and the effect.

23:51And for me, the difference is people always try to retroactively sort of retrofit. So anything I do, they go, it's very much like BoJack. You sound like BoJack. A, I always say, of course I sound like BoJack because he has my voice. And it's really easy. I remember I bought a new house. I built this house. And it was on a magazine. And the comments about like, oh, it's such a BoJack house. And I'm like, fuck off. I didn't write BoJack. I played him. And then I ended up just recently coming full circle and realizing, I was like, you know what? I'm going to look at it differently. My perspective is going to be the reason they do that is because it was effective and it worked.

24:39And I'm going to start thinking like I did a good job portraying this guy because people actually believe it and it's something that's really resonated. So that's the way I kind of look at it. But I've had a very strange relationship. I've never talked about it in this way before. But I've had a very odd relationship with BoJack. I love... the writing on bojack rafael bob waxberg is one of the most brilliant hilarious gifted people i've ever worked with um and i thought that his writing was brilliant and it really got into a lot of very tricky uh emotional and moral questions and lots of things that that a lot of other shows don't get into in a way that was very insightful very real and very honest and all served up in this sort of Trojan horse of animated, animated Trojan horse.

25:31Yeah. But it's also been this thing that I'm like, you know, that this film, for instance, is this thing on? People say, oh, well, you know, this, this guy's quite tragic. There's a sort of a Bojack. And I'm like, this guy couldn't be, this guy is a mid-level finance guy. He's a good guy who loves his kids, who's getting divorced. The fuck are you talking about? you wishful thinking fucking asshole they're like but i love bojack i'm like i don't give a shit yeah yeah but the truth is i do i'm happy they like it yeah yeah no it's funny this is a very honest conversation you guys yeah no it's an amazing show i hope nobody listens to this yeah i listen but based on how i'm gonna get all the real fans you're gonna be like what a bojack answer guaranteed guaranteed guaranteed they're gonna say what a bojack answer to the thing i'm I'm like, okay, you can't win.

26:27Yeah. No, it's an amazing show. But I agree. It is an amazing show. And I will say this. I agree. At the end of all that, I say I agree. One of the things that I find gratifying, if you will, is when people like you say, the show really impacted me. Tons of people who reach out and say, I was going through a difficult time. BoJack really helped me out. It gave me a lot of insight. I identified with it. These are the issues that I've been going, et cetera, et cetera. And so in that regard, I really enjoy it. And also it's gratifying when people say it's really funny. It made me laugh, whatever.

27:10They just appear on any level. I am grateful for that. So I don't want to seem like I'm ungrateful. It's that aspect of it. It's just sort of dogged me. No, I get that.

27:20Romesh Ranganathan:I get that. I mean, you know, all I was going to say is I think like the view from halfway down and that whole thing is one of the best examinations of that feeling that I've ever seen. And when I said to you, it sort of changed my life. It changed the way I think about life, actually. There's one scene in particular where Diane and Bojack go to visit Cuddlewish. I don't know how much you remember it, but when they go to visit Cuddle Whiskers and he becomes really zen and he's opted out of the whole rat race or whatever, whatever you want to call it. And he's achieved an inner peace or whatever.

28:02Romesh Ranganathan:And he's realized that this life was whatever doesn't give him what he needs. And they are in the car afterwards and they're sort of like, oh, that guy is kind of, that was crazy, wasn't it? But you can tell that they think, oh my God, that's what we should be doing. that that made that even that little thing made me think um god yeah you know it's that search for bojack search for validation from the industry or you know from from fame or whatever and how unrewarding that is i just think is an amazing yeah again you know the writing is brilliant i love rafael we talk about working on other stuff uh all the time there have been moments that we've talked about stuff and he has he's written a thing he's written a thing recently that that i really like and uh you know it it did have a profound effect on me as well doing it that was the other thing it was like doing that show recording that show um as you can imagine you know ends up being quite an emotional experience going through all that stuff and there would be moments when we recorded it was just rafael and me and and and the engineer and and we would talk through scenes and we would do, and there would be moments where we'd, we'd do a scene and, and I'd say, I'd, you know, I'd come out of the booth and he'd be standing there and Rafael has this great energy.

29:23He's very much like very kind of upbeat weirdly. And I'd go, and I'd come out and I'd be like, Jesus fucking Christ, dude. And he's like, fun, right? And I'm like, you know, and, and, you know, I got in there and it's now 10 AM on a Wednesday and I've got to go through the rest of my day you know free churro that episode uh you know that was a really the writing on that episode was so good and made it really easy easy for me we basically did that in one take i not entirely because there was some thing but that was basically like just one long thing and it was you know for me it was a great exploration it really affected me that that thing of him going through that thing, talking about us, but we're in that way.

30:11Yeah, man. It's hard not to be impacted by it as an artist, if you will. Guys, I'm an artist, by the way, from now on. No, well, you've been an artist the whole way through, actually. Hey. Yeah. Anyway, so I love the guy. I do love the show. I just hate the sloppy connections people make. Yeah. Let's go to a commercial. Sure.

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31:34Romesh Ranganathan:There's no place like ITV. Do you have any tattoos? I don't have any tattoos. And is that a thing that you feel... What I mean is like, some people are like, I'm never gonna mark my body. I have a very controversial position on tattoos. Go on, go on. Not very kind of. Sure. As if anything I say is... Get the push the clip button.

32:00God, I say stuff that people... how many, first of all, let me ask you this before I get a type of, how many tattoos do you have? Probably, I would say 20-ish. See, you might, so my, this generalization that I've come up with.

32:18Romesh Ranganathan:Oh, by the way, I'm unoffendable, so you can say what you want. It's sweeping. And it certainly doesn't apply to you. And I'm saying this beforehand. No, because of this time that we've spent together, and it 100 % doesn't apply to you. So there are a lot of exceptions to this rule. But I would say on the balance... Sex offenders. Yeah, how did you know? I could just tell by the way you're building up to. No, it is... Sometimes there is a direct... I've noticed sometimes with some people there is a proportionate sort of relationship between how many tattoos you have and how little personality you have.

33:07And I find a lot, people who have a ton of tattoos often are super fucking boring. Yeah. Like truly boring people. Yeah. And I find that to be just quite bland. Yeah, it's manufactured edge. That's what it is. Exactly. Right? Of course, it's manufactured edge. So that's right. That's a great way of putting it. I told you guys he'd say something good. These guys, it's funny because they work for you and they've been under, anyway, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it is. And so like I, you know, and it's that, it's that like they have to go out of their way. and some of the people I know who are the most interesting or the most sort of eccentric look the most normal.

34:01Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you.

34:03Romesh Ranganathan:And it's also a nightmare for if you do any kind of acting. Yeah, so if you work it out and you do anything, then you've got to cover it up because you have to. Well, I worked with, I was on, you know Tom Davis, one of my best friends. Is he? Yeah. I love Tom Davis. Yeah. I love Tom Davis. He's so funny. I was in his sitcom, King Gary. I played his next one, and we went on his stag do in the thing. And my character's like kind of an annoying kind of, you know, just really highly strung kind of prick that's kind of become a nemesis of his. But I get loose on his stag do. And so one of the things I jump into the swimming pool, like jump in through this like ring in the swimming pool, I'm just like losing my shirt.

34:45Romesh Ranganathan:But obviously I've got tattoos. My character doesn't have tattoos. So they had to like, it was like, uh, hours, right? Yeah. It was hours. I had to prep it. But then every time I jump in the water, it's then compromised. So then they literally airlift, like almost a team of like makeup artists come in, lift me out the pool. And then they put me in the thing to top it up. And then we go for another take. And I just thought it's, it's not, it's not my fault. No, it's not. That is, that is also one of the reasons I don't do it because of that. Because, but if I were to get a tattoo to answer your mom's question.

35:14Sure. Thank you. Um, I would, uh, there's a very famous hockey player in Canada. It means nothing to you guys. I'd probably get one of him across my back. And I said, Across your back? Yeah. Only if my beloved Toronto Maple Leaf hockey club were to win the Stanley Cup finally in my lifetime. Yeah. I would get a tattoo of this guy, Wendell Clark, who's retired a long time ago, but of him holding the Stanley Cup.

35:38Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. That's good. Or Jurgen Klopp. Or Jurgen Klopp. Or your mom. Or my mom. Yeah. For asking the question. Okay. Out of respect. Sure. So, okay. I think that's sweet. Really sweet. Or your mum and Jurgen Klopp. Great. Just like on a walk. Embracing? On a walk. Or both of them lifting the Stanley Cup. Lifting Wendell Clark lifting the Stanley Cup. Yeah, like a cup. Yeah. Okay, great. Thank you for that. Maybe one of your listeners who's into tattoos, who's angry with me now, could send in some ideas. That would be great. If you have got any ideas for a tattoo, please do get in touch. We are going to play a game now, Will.

36:21Romesh Ranganathan:Okay. Called Misquoted. Okay. I'm going to read some quotes allegedly by you. And then you're going to tell me whether you said this or not. Yeah. This is good. Because I have seen quotes that I'm like, I never said that. Like, I never said the thing about tattoo people are bland. And I never said anything about Madonna.

36:47Romesh Ranganathan:It's misquoted. Okay, so here's your first quote. Pure and unadulterated success is not as funny as failure. I did say that. I think I did say a version of that. I should have said that. You said it to Vanity Fair in 2015. Yeah. It's true. When you said, what was the context of that? Do you remember? Or what do you mean by that? I was just saying that all my failure is way funnier than everybody else's success.

37:23That's how I just deal with my failure, my profound failure.

37:27Romesh Ranganathan:It's a weird thing because I always thought of the love of failure to be like a particularly British trait. And sometimes when you talk to, you know, when you have meetings about comedies and stuff like that, But a lot of the time, one of the things that it's always said is that your character is too much of a loser. It's like British people love just absolute losers, right? It is. It's way funnier. And if you have somebody who's successful, they have to be flawed. That's way better. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing funny about people who are killing it. No. No, that's fine. Doing so well. Okay. This is your next one.

38:08Romesh Ranganathan:Were you about to say something? No, no. I don't consider myself a dramatic actor per se.

38:16Romesh Ranganathan:I don't consider myself a dramatic actor per se. I probably did say that. It's very close to what you said. You said, I don't consider myself a comedian per se. Oh, interesting. Well, yeah, so it's adjacent to what I said. It is adjacent, yeah. Do you think that's unfair to do something adjacent? We're experimenting with that in this case. Well, because from now on, I'm just going to say, I don't think I said that. Because then, you know, why would I? It's a fool's errand to say. It really is. Because it sounds, because now I'm sort of taking credit for saying something where I'm being sort of quite self-deprecating.

38:52Sure. But I don't, is the truth. And I'm not, I don't consider myself a comedian. And I don't consider myself a dramatic actor. and the the funny part is and i'm not even meaning i don't consider myself and i'm not even being i'm not sort of being humble i i don't really think about it yeah is that fair i mean what you

39:12Romesh Ranganathan:are yeah i don't really think about my condition a lot no i agree with that i think that's a healthy way to be yeah i think you're somebody that does this thing and then you might do this thing i think when i was younger i used to think about it more and you think about like how people perceive you or what you're doing and stuff like that. And I'm just, to quote Danny Glover from Lethal Weapon, I'm too old for this shit. I get it. He was 42 when he said that. I know, I know. Isn't that depressing? Well, and as it turned out, he wasn't too old for that shit. No. He was actually prime age for that shit.

39:43He was prime, he was right in his... Yeah.

39:44Romesh Ranganathan:Actually, it would have been a better line if he said I'm age appropriate for this shit. They ought to go back. I'm just right for this shit.

39:57Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah, no, fair enough. But I do agree, I totally agree with you in that thing of I think, speaking of fool's errands, I think it's a fool's errand to go, in my opinion, I'm a comedian or I'm an actor or whatever. I think it's mad. I do. And to sort of extend that even further, I have this thing when people say, you know, I'm the type of person who, I reject that. We're all the type of person who anything. And we just, what we decided, And so like, why are you fighting for your limitations? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, here's your next one. Okay. I'm a total optimist. I always just believe things are going to work out and they usually do.

40:39Romesh Ranganathan:God, did I say that? You did in 2021 on the Today Show. Wow. I did the Today Show in 2021? Yeah. Congrats on that, by the way. Thanks, man. It was a big moment for my family.

40:57what uh god what was i doing in 2021 on the today show it must have been going well by the sounds of

41:02Romesh Ranganathan:it i guess if i was on the today show well but not even that it's just the quote are you an optimist i am an optimist but i'm also i'm also a realist i do all this we we joke around and stuff all of it is jokes of course i've i mean i don't i don't know man i'm just kind of making my way through this life like everybody else if i'm being honest i'm just trying to get from day to day yeah i'm like i'm trying to get my son tickets to the rams game or to the eagles game next week in la he's 17 the only reason he called me last night because he was like hey dad can you get me tickets i said i think soon he goes i love you not because of this i'm like yeah it's okay if it's because of this i'm doing that i gotta you know i'm i gotta go back i got a five-year-old it's crazy all this sort of stuff like i'm just trying to get through it and then you know what i mean i'm And so I am an optimist because I do think that no matter what happens, things are going to be okay.

41:56Although the great Robert Downey Jr. said to me once a couple of years ago, he said, you know, nobody wakes up happier in the morning to be themselves than you. And I think it was a compliment. It is a compliment. It is. But part of me then made me think like, you know, am I just sort of like this kind of giddy idiot? Yeah.

42:20Romesh Ranganathan:Maybe. No, I don't think I've got that vibe. You know that notion people talk about that thing like, oh, it must be great to be really stupid because you're not going to sweat the details or whatever. Maybe, and I realize, oh, it's me. I'm really stupid. And nobody's told me. I'm really dumb and nobody has the guts to tell me. And they're just like, let him live in his place.

42:45Romesh Ranganathan:I told you we'd get him. I told you we would completely break him down. Be honest, am I really stupid? No, you're so smart.

43:01Romesh Ranganathan:You're one of the smartest guys we've had on this.

43:07Romesh Ranganathan:You could be a lawyer.

43:13I am in a full-fledged crisis right now. This is...

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44:23Romesh Ranganathan:This seems like I'm being glib, but my most unpopular opinion is not having an opinion. We're in this never-ending opinion race that's driving us towards insanity. The truth is I don't really care anymore. I vote. I do what I think is right. I don't need to weigh in on everything. Boy, I hope I said that. You did say that. Did I? Yes. February 2020. GQ. How does that feel? Yeah, it makes sense. Smart guy. Clever, clever boy. Oh, I was saying more of the GQ of it all. GQ. Oh, stop winking. Okay.

45:01It is true. You know, there was a lot of, I'm not on Twitter anymore. I mean, I just don't even look at it as a cesspool. But even doing this, like sometimes even answering you with some of these things and promoting, I'm kind of loathe to give my opinion on stuff as a, and that's indicative. I just, the advent of social media has just made that we just live in this world that everybody's got their fucking opinion. Like who gives a shit? Yeah. Like who cares what I have to say? Like, no, but like, it doesn't matter.

45:34Romesh Ranganathan:I know, but I do think that we are in a, it's a really weird thing where I don't know if it's social media or whatever, but you're not allowed. I don't think you're, it doesn't feel like you're as loud as allowed to say, I am not well informed enough to give an opinion on this, or I don't have a take on this. You have to have immediately a take on something. It's funny you say that. So recently I've spent my life and doing this film actually taught me a lot of things. I learned a lot in the last year, more than I have in the last 20 years. And one I don't know that much. I've spent my life being a fucking know-it-all.

46:14And I'm realizing, oh, I don't know as much as I think I do. And it's kind of, it's taking me to like age 55 to realize that. And I know it's hard to believe I'm 55. And I'm your words now.

46:34But it is hard. I do realize like, who cares? I don't know anything. Like I am, I live in this, I need to be in the student section more. I just need to, what am I doing? And, and it's, it, it, it sort of took me a long time to get to this place to, to kind of, I bored the hell out of Conan a couple weeks ago. I was doing his podcast again and well, I thought I'd return the favor and, uh, I mean, I love him to death. But I quoted this book, this Sally Rooney book called Beautiful World, Where Are You? This is like the 80th time I've mentioned this, but it's really stuck with me. And there's a writer in it.

47:17The book is about these two friends writing emails to each other and other things have been beautifully written. And one of them, this famous writer talks about this interview she does. And her boyfriend, she says to the interviewer that her boyfriend has never read her novels. And the interviewer puts the story out saying this famous writer, her boyfriend never reads her works. And then there's some comments on Twitter. And this person says she deserves better than that boyfriend. And this fictitious writer in the story writes the thing. She says, I realized basically the gist of it was we live in a place now where this person who doesn't know me thinks they know what's best for me.

48:01Yeah. Not only that, not only do they think that, they write it out. They say it publicly. And other people endorse that opinion. And in that sense, she and all of us and all these people are insane. She thinks that a person, she knows what's better for a person. She doesn't know what she needs, what she thinks, blah, blah, blah, as much as she would about somebody she does know. And that is fucking insane. and we all live in it and we live and die by it. So we all have opinions on shit and other people endorse this stuff about stuff that we know nothing about. I don't care about people's personal lives and I don't care what you think about it online.

48:44I didn't watch the Tiger Woods documentary. I started watching because I was like, it's none of my fucking business. And I don't give a shit what you think about whether you approve or disapprove of what he did. What the fuck do you know?

48:56Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Is it too much? Is it too much, guys? No, it's actually the perfect, it's exactly the right level. God, I'm going to get killed for this podcast. Lewis, my publicist, is outside. He's like, what are you doing? We're supposed to be talking about this film. Do I get a final edit on this? Yeah, well, you've got the power to veto anything you like, actually, is the truth. It's not a gotcha. Is it? Yeah. Okay, good. Nobody ever needs to know. That's what we do on Smart List, too. Yeah, nobody ever needs to know you've even mentioned Madonna. Okay, good. Is that true? That's true. Oh, that's good.

49:23Yeah. We've had a few guests. we had a guest, a comedian she asked us to not air her episode at all which we were like, fuck it cost us money and the guys, we all have to do it and blah blah blah because she was worried because she thought that she was up and coming oh I see and I won't tell you until we're absolutely cut but we're like, you're good and turns out, we were right No, but I think, you know, one other very famous comedian who I'll tell you after, who is a fucking rank asshole recently. And we cut him off after 10 minutes and said, thanks so much. And then ditched him.

50:06Romesh Ranganathan:Seriously? Yeah. And you'll be blown away by who it is. I'd love to have the bullies today. Because you'd be like, how did you get Bill Cosby? All right, keep going. Okay, this is the last quote. It wasn't until I moved to New York that I realized I had a voice that could make me some serious dough. I think that that's probably true. You said something - Ish in the ballpark to that. Yes. It wasn't until I moved to New York that people mentioned my voice to me. I mean, in Canada, people don't really compliment each other. Actually, a member of my extended family said to me, people pay you for that voice?

50:38Romesh Ranganathan:That's true. At my grandfather's funeral. What? At my grandfather's funeral. my grandfather whom i adored who is like my best friend now we're gonna get everything on this i'm gonna end up crying uh my grandfather who i adored he died uh in 2009 um i was 39 years old so i did get almost 40 years of the the greatest guy um and she knew i adored him such a great guy he died at 97 and the church was packed which is rare because most of their peers have gone young people and stuff and i met all these people who he had impacted their lives all these people who i didn't even know he knew amazing guy and i and i and my sisters you know read read uh um did readings at his at his you know to eulogize him and i'm in a really tough state and an in-law of somebody in my family as they were coming people were kind of coming along and you sort of do the receiving line and i was really kind of and i had spoken and she said to me she said oh people people pay you for that voice you sounded quite i was like real oh shitty right that's shitty that is shitty i mean listen i don't want to judge but that seems shitty um but i don't understand how it helped with the free churro episode oh my god i bet helped me connect yeah holy shit um so the one one other thing i want to talk about the film And we talked about the relationship stuff.

52:12Romesh Ranganathan:We talked about the comedy. The kids in this film, unbelievable. There is a moment and there's a moment that actually, because Ben and I went to watch this film together. It hit me right in the feels, man. And it's when one of Alex's kids finds the notebook and he's asking him about it. and then just sort of breaks down, I guess. It's one of the, oh man, it's, it, it, as a dad watching that, it was really, it was, it chokes you up that bit. And I remember thinking to myself, I don't ever want, I don't ever want my kids to, to, you know, to, to, to, to have that, that, that experience. Do you know what I mean?

53:03Yeah. I could, I could relate to that in the sense that like, you know for all the sort of the joking that i do or whatever you know you live in a world i live in a world where my kids can look me up and they can kind of see stuff or or see quotes yeah that i've made or whatever and i and i've thought about it more recently um and uh and so anyway certainly that kind of hit me on a bunch of levels doing that scene and we thought it was really really important but yeah it's it's a great moment and those kids are really amazing the kids are great

53:36Romesh Ranganathan:And I think the way that parenting is depicted in those circumstances that they're going through is pretty. It's just I mean, it's amazing. You know, it's like it's really well done. Well, you know how, you know, again, it's about it's about wanting to protect them and be honest with them in that way, as honest as he can be in a way that's appropriate. And I've had moments where I've had to kind of. I didn't really learn this myself from my own parents whom I adore who are great but this idea of apologizing to your kids or or being open enough to go like hey I've had a lot of moments and I've had them recently um where I've had to say to my kids hey I might not have done this the best.

54:24Maybe I didn't say the right thing. I'm sorry, this is a confusing time or whatever. And I get it and just try to, you know, and just try to be honest about it.

54:34Romesh Ranganathan:Yeah. Uh, I've been there as a parent a lot. I had that. I had, I had a discussion with my friends about having a moment exactly like that, where I, it always happened on more than one occasion, but I called something wrong and, you know, had a go at one of my kids for something. And then it turned out, you know, later on, first of all, I'd overreacted in the first instance. And secondly, I'd got it wrong. So I just had to go and say to him, look, man, I was I was acting on what I thought was the right thing at the time. I'm tired. And so I probably, you know, it's disproportionate what I did.

55:09Romesh Ranganathan:And I'm not an expert. I'm, you know, I'm trying to do my best. And I can't tell you it won't happen again because it might. You know, in fact, it's highly likely. Dude, I had the I had an identical experience not long ago. Right. And I was so sure I was right. And I said, and I had to do the same thing. Yeah. Well, one of my, one of my friends, but one of my friends said to me, there's a two schools of thought. Cause one of my friends said to me, but you're showing them you're fallible. Then, you know, like he was, you know, you're supposed to be, what his take was, you're supposed to be an authority figure, which I, you know, you're supposed to be an authority figure.

55:40Romesh Ranganathan:And so now you're going, you're allowing them to question everything you do, which I think is okay. I do too. I don't want to be Eric Honaker to my kids. Okay, and I don't know the last time somebody brought up Eric Honaker on your show. Yeah, it was actually, was it episode before laugh? Was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The big question I want to ask you is, watching you on stage as Alex Novak, it felt like you looked like a comic. Oh. You've got the, you know, and the other thing I'd say is you look like a comics comic. And what I mean by that is, you look like the sort of comedian that other comedians would go, I love that guy, you know?

56:19Romesh Ranganathan:Really? Actually, and I was really delighted you had him in the film. Dave Attell, who's obviously one of the greats, right? The best. One of the all-time greats. Skanks for the memories, right? His special. I think it might be up there with the funniest hours of stand-up in history. He told this joke that we ended up cutting out. I don't know why it really – we cut out because it didn't fit because we had to get to – in the film where Alex does a set and then Dave comes up after him. Yeah. And Dave ends up making fun of Alex Novak. You can just sort of hear him. And then we had him telling a joke.

56:59Again, we just didn't have time for it. You gave him the joke, or is this in the tale? No, this is his joke. Right. No, you don't need to give Dave a joke.

57:06Romesh Ranganathan:No, no, sure, sure, sure. Why did I say that? Cut that, don't clip that. Yeah. Oh, you can say don't clip that? I didn't even know that was an option. Fuck. so so it's all goes he goes he goes i'm gonna butcher it but i don't know why this joke is stay with me i find it so funny it's so dumb i was at subway the other day and i looked around it was just me and the guy making my sandwich and i said guy take the gloves off raw dog my son

57:42Romesh Ranganathan:that is such a funny joke it's such an hotel thing to say god is it funny well it's been incredible to have you on super fun you've been such so open and full with your chat so thank you so much well it was and take this the right way it was punching down

58:02Romesh Ranganathan:now um the team would love to have like a viral moment or some sort of exclusive. I gave you like 30. Yeah. No, you have actually like a hot take. Oh, a hot take. I have so many, but they're like really unpopular. Right. If you want to post anything on the internet, any kind of comment, anything, you have to give your full name, address and phone number. I agree. I agree. It's, it's the only way forward. Yeah, I totally agree. And then, let's see. It's Will Arna, everybody. That was so good, man. Thank you so much. Thanks, man. Thank you so much for watching this episode of the Ramesh Ranganathan Show.

58:51Romesh Ranganathan:Now, I hope you don't mind me getting serious for a minute, but I've been told that some people are watching this podcast, enjoying it, and still haven't subscribed. And that is, well, first of all, it's unacceptable. The second, you're going to miss episodes, which is very silly. So follow and subscribe to the Ramesh Ranganathan show on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. We drop new episodes every Monday and Thursday. Thursdays, I'm joined by my mum, widely regarded as the audience's favourite Ranganathan. Sorry, Dinesh. And we answer your questions, your stories, and your family dilemmas.

59:23Romesh Ranganathan:Send your questions and stories to podcast at rangaby.com. voice note or text on 0731 623 355 that's 0731 623 355 we genuinely love hearing from you and there's a good chance you'll hear yourself on the show that'd be exciting, a little bit of fame for you you can walk around looking at members of the public like I do like they're lesser human beings see you next time

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