In short
The host argues that AI safety should be handled via company incentives, liability, and independent evaluation—not heavy government or global regulation that could stifle innovation and leave the U.S. behind China.
Guests (named in transcript)
No traditional podcast guests appear. The episode references public figures and commentators: Mark Zuckerberg (Meta), Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO), Elon Musk, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Ro Khanna, Mike Johnson, Steve Bannon, Joe Lonsdale (8VC), Jason Calacanis and David Sacks (All-In), plus David Ellison/Paramount leadership and NYC Mayor Eric Adams (referred to as “Zorhan Mamdami” in the transcript).
Guest backgrounds
Zuckerberg—Meta CEO; Amodei—Anthropic CEO; Musk—xAI/Tesla/SpaceX; Sanders/Warren/Khanna/Johnson—U.S. politicians; Bannon—political strategist; Lonsdale—Palantir co-founder/VC; Calacanis/Sachs—tech podcasters/investors.
Key claims
Zuckerberg’s tweet supports alignment, safety compute allocation, independent evaluators, and liability; government “pause” proposals are portrayed as unrealistic and enabling regulatory capture; Anthropic’s proposed evaluator access is framed as an “inside ecosystem” risk; Elon/Musk-style “co-testing” is presented as a better alternative.
Notable examples
Meta delayed shipping Muse for safety; Anthropic employee alarm leading to Wall Street Journal coverage; Kalshi ad; NYC plan for 17 modular public bathrooms; Paramount threatening to move HQ over California antitrust suit.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPersonal Injury Update and Reflections
0:00 to 0:50
Dave shares a personal story about his shoulder injury and reflections on aging and lost activities.
“You may not know this, but I have eczema, so I get how it can steal your time.”
Personal Injury Update and Reflections
2:07 to 3:45
Dave shares a personal story about his shoulder injury and reflections on aging and lost activities.
“particularly about people not getting our videos in their feed.”
Exploring AI Regulation and Innovation
3:45 to 5:32
Dave discusses the implications of regulating AI and the importance of innovation.
“So you guys know I busted my shoulder, AC joint, about three, three and a half months ago already, and I've got this crazy collarbone thing happening, and I'm probably gonna have to have surgery, but I can move it.”
Zuckerberg's Position on AI Safety
5:32 to 8:34
Dave reads and analyzes Mark Zuckerberg's statements on AI safety and alignment.
“So believe it or not, Mark Zuckerberg, a guy that I have no love for Mark Zuckerberg, like he's obviously a Democrat.”
Anthropic's CEO and Criticisms of Evaluators
8:34 to 12:00
Discussion on the criticisms surrounding Anthropic's CEO and their evaluation methods.
“Now that doesn't mean it's going to work out perfectly, obviously, but by the way, you could start regulating them to high hell.”
Elon Musk's Proposal for AI Oversight
12:00 to 13:24
Dave contrasts Elon Musk's approach to AI oversight with government regulations.
“slower frontier development, and centralized oversight.”
Critique of Political Figures on AI Regulation
13:24 to 14:00
Dave criticizes political figures like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders regarding their stances on AI regulation.
“Of course, the other option is we could just hand it to the government and well, Elizabeth Warren.”
Regulating Advanced AI
14:00 to 15:00
Discussion on the role of lawmakers and regulators in AI development.
“If you look at that, she wants to press pause on the development of advanced AI.”
Critique of Government Regulation
15:00 to 16:00
Criticism of government regulators and their capability to manage AI.
“again, I don't even know how to finish that sentence anymore.”
Self-Regulation vs. Government Control
16:00 to 17:00
Debate on whether AI should be self-regulated by companies or controlled by the government.
“They can self-police, they can self-regulate.”
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Political Figures and AI
17:00 to 18:00
Analysis of political figures like Ro Khanna and Bernie Sanders in the context of AI regulation.
“and 167 plus millions of dollars, and it's actually more than that.”
Concerns About Election Integrity
18:00 to 19:00
Exploring fears about AI's impact on election integrity and political institutions.
“This technology will escape human control with potentially catastrophic consequences.”
Fearmongering and AI
19:00 to 20:00
Discussion on doomsday predictions regarding AI's impact and the political narrative around it.
“Bernie six years ago was warning that we only had six years to go.”
Criticism of Political Alliances
20:00 to 21:00
Critique of unlikely political alliances, focusing on Bernie Sanders and Steve Bannon.
“I just mentioned this, but I put up another tweet that did quite well yesterday.”
Liability vs. Regulation
21:00 to 22:00
Arguments for liability over regulation in managing AI companies' risks.
“You've got the sort of crazy broken, whatever he is on the right, Steve Bannon.”
The American Approach to Tech Regulation
22:00 to 23:00
Discussion on an American approach to holding tech companies accountable without heavy regulation.
“If you go back in our civilization, we don't need star chambers.”
Globalist Control in AI Governance
23:00 to 24:00
Critique of proposals for global governance of AI and their implications.
“If Anthropik's about to go public, like maybe they would be like, And I'm like, boy, we do have a fiduciary responsibility to make the most money for people.”
Testing AI Models Collaboratively
24:00 to 25:00
Proposal for collaborative testing of AI models instead of government regulation.
“And one of the agendas here is to do what's called regulatory capture, create a bunch of rules so maybe these one or two companies can win the market.”
Concerns Over Regulatory Capture
25:00 to 26:00
Debate on the dangers of regulatory capture in the tech industry.
“That's a perfectly reasonable next step.”
The Race for Superintelligence
26:00 to 27:00
Discussion on the global race for AI advancements and implications for the US.
“But you want to give him control of the Internet and the future?”
Impacts of International Agreements
27:00 to 28:00
Critique of international agreements on AI and their enforcement challenges.
“I mean, this is the way they think about this issue.”
The Risks of AI Regulation
28:00 to 29:50
Explore how international AI treaties may disadvantage the US and create innovation gaps.
“And then think about it, all the countries that won't sign on to it, or whether China signs on or not, Do you think they're gonna honor it?”
Public Bathroom Crisis in New York
30:19 to 37:38
Discussion on the lack of public bathrooms in NYC and the proposed solutions.
“All right, let's pause on AI for a moment, mostly, and talk about pooping.”
Hollywood's Exodus from California
38:51 to 42:00
Examine the impact of regulations on Hollywood and the potential move of Paramount.
“It's just a toilet and a sink here and five or six people here working on a daily basis.”
Hollywood Competition and Mergers
42:00 to 44:19
Discussion on the implications of Paramount and Warner Bros merging and competition in Hollywood.
“Here he is just leveling this entire situation.”
California's Homelessness Crisis
44:20 to 46:19
Analysis of Los Angeles' handling of homelessness and government corruption.
“as ABC series becomes latest to leave in California.”
Federal Laws and State Accountability
46:20 to 48:22
Exploring a new bill for state accountability in fraud against federal programs.
“It's also because we create the conditions for a flourishing economy.”
Polling and Midterm Elections
48:23 to 50:40
Insights on polling accuracy and its impact on upcoming elections.
“if AI could help with transparency and everything else.”
Community Interaction and Clyde's Story
51:15 to 53:28
Engagement with audience questions about Clyde, the dog, and personal anecdotes.
“Application times may vary, rates may vary as well.”
Reflections on Trump's Presidency
53:29 to 56:00
Speculation on what Trump might regret and his decision-making style.
“about how things are going and about the future, what would you guess he's most regretful about and would do differently if he could?”
Nostalgic Film Memories
56:00 to 58:49
Explore fond memories of classic comedies and personal experiences that shaped the host's humor.
“And I remember the first time I saw Airplane And I remember, I really remember the first time I saw Naked Gun, which I think is the best comedy movie ever.”
Reflections on Abortion Perspectives
58:50 to 1:00:45
Discuss the evolving views on abortion influenced by personal and societal changes.
“rather than the pressure of just having to get a laugh every two seconds.”
Future of AI and Robotics
1:00:46 to 1:08:00
Delve into the potential impact of AI and robots on everyday life and society.
“and there'll be all sorts of terrible things happening with hangers in back alleys.”
Transcript
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1:20all signed, a piece of paper. If China goes ahead with this technology, you waive your ability to get that cancer cured.
1:52What's going on, everybody? I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. It is September 17th, 2026. Before I do anything, we saw a ton of comments yesterday. We've been seeing them for the last couple of days, but I don't know, something happened yesterday, particularly about people not getting our videos in their feed. Now, does it have something to do with the position I'm taking on this AI thing? I have no idea. You know my feelings about conspiracy theories and generally my quote that I love the most about all this kind of stuff is Carl Sagan, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
2:28So I don't know if there's little gremlins in your computer. I don't know what's going on. But if you have not subscribed, either on YouTube or Rumble, Spotify, if you're listening, whatever it is, and then particularly on YouTube, there seems to be something going on with YouTube, you gotta tap the notification bell and say, I think it's notify me of all videos or something like that. Because I think one of the things going on here, and this is certainly not a conspiracy, is that when we take our August off the grid, we just, even though we put up a ton of content, without doing live shows, we just get booted from the algorithm and then they stop putting you in the feed and it takes your viewing habits some time for the algorithm basically to catch up and start feeding you the videos again.
3:08So if you've been watching going, wait a minute, why am I not getting a notification at 11 a.m. and then you don't realize till noon that we've been live or whatever it might be, if you tap that thing, you can do it. I wanna make one other comment before I dive into the show. And yes, you know, we're mostly covering this AI stuff today, which as I keep saying, I just, this story is so rich with all of the things that I care about that we're just gonna just keep hitting it hard. And I really think it's the most important, it's not only the most obviously important political story at the moment, but it's the most important cultural story.
3:38And if we're ever going to blaze a trail to a bright and inspirational future, which I actually think we're gonna. Just on one quick personal for one minute. So you guys know I busted my shoulder, AC joint, about three, three and a half months ago already, and I've got this crazy collarbone thing happening, and I'm probably gonna have to have surgery, but I can move it. It's really an aesthetic injury right now. I've got about 80 % range, and a little bit of pain, and some crunches or whatever. The doc said to me the other day, he said, you can go play basketball again, because I kept saying I gotta get out there.
4:06So I played ball yesterday for the first time in about three and a half months, and I just had an interest, and I didn't play great, actually. I didn't play terribly, I hit a couple shots, whatever, but it was just nice to be out there, see the guys again, you know, laugh it up and work out and sweat and all that. But I was thinking about something that I guess I'll keep thinking about in my life and see how I can incorporate into what I do here, about how, like, at times, life can really take things away from you that you love, like something that I love, love, love, love playing, love doing, love participating in for all the camaraderie, the teamwork, all that stuff.
4:42Like, it took it away from me, and then I was just able to get it back, And then I was thinking, but I'm 50, all these people were telling me how much longer can I keep playing so many of my friends don't play anymore because of injuries and everything else. So anyway, I was just thinking about that a lot. I'm sure you all have your own versions of that once you hit a certain age, just something that I just wanted to get off the top of my head. And now let's dive in. Yes, there is a lot going on on this AI front and mostly, well, it's that Bernie Sanders and a crew of globalist people want to either regulate the high hell out of American companies, which will leave us completely beholden to China and other countries as they advance on AI, and they'll be the ones that'll cure cancer and cure Alzheimer's and send the rockets out to space and all that other stuff.
5:27That's one issue that's going on here. And then the real issue seems to be, well, okay, if we all accept that there are some risks around AI, which I do, and again, you know my feelings about the sci-fi movies and Sky and I can turn on all that stuff, Well, then what is the best way to make sure that we're entering this new frontier for humanity in a somewhat safe way? So believe it or not, Mark Zuckerberg, a guy that I have no love for Mark Zuckerberg, like he's obviously a Democrat. He's moderated quite a bit, but he was integral in the Hunter Biden laptop story not getting on Facebook. He made it clear in a Rogan interview years later that Facebook was censoring people during COVID and all of this stuff.
6:13So this is not me glazing him in any way. But what's interesting, as I keep saying, is we're watching the sides line up right now. And a lot of the people I've really come to respect over the years, I feel are on the right side of this. And now some of the people who seem to be getting a little bit better seem to be coming our way too. So Mark Zuckerberg put up a rather extensive tweet on the Twitter machine. I wanna read it to you. He wrote, last month, I wrote about how we can build a positive and safe future for everyone. Every lab has the responsibility and incentive to move at the pace required to train its model safely and the ability to take its own actions to ensure that happens.
6:51The reality is people won't want to use agents that are misaligned with them and that don't do what they ask. So labs have a strong natural incentive to make their models more aligned. There is also a lot of debate about slowing progress on capabilities until alignment catches up. My view is that trust and alignment are quickly becoming the most important capabilities that will differentiate agents and models. Any lab that doesn't focus on alignment will fall behind. Labs face significant liability if their models cause harm, so they have a strong incentive to prevent this as well. Meta delayed shipping muse for several months to focus on safety and security.
7:29We didn't call for everyone else to do this before we would. We just did it as part of our day-to-day work because it was clearly the right thing for people and for us. I'm proud of the security foundations we've built. Engaging independent evaluators and advisors is industry best practice. MSL already does this today in several areas because it helps produce better work. Other labs can just do this too. In general, it would be helpful for there to be a larger and more diverse ecosystem of evaluators. Committing the significant majority of compute towards serving people rather than racing towards recursive self-improvement is one of the best ways to ensure we develop this technology safely.
8:11Meta has made this commitment and other labs can do this as well. I believe the key to building a positive future for everyone is maintaining the right balance of power. This is within our power to do. So again, let me say, I have no love lost for this guy. I'm not saying you should trust him. he does seem sometimes like a humanoid robot himself. But I happen to agree with his sentiment right there. He's saying all the incentives are lined up for these big companies, whether it is Meta or it's X or it's Anthropic or OpenAI, they all have their own incentive system to build the best product, to bring on safety and trust people and make sure that their agents are not going rogue and that they're not building things that are gonna end the world and everything else.
8:55Now that doesn't mean it's going to work out perfectly, obviously, but by the way, you could start regulating them to high hell. And then once those regulations kick in, all of the new guys, the young competitors, the 15 year old kids who are doing magical things on their computers that we can't even think what the high hell they're up to, well, they are gonna now be regulated too. We will be stifling productivity. You will get that regulatory capture so that just the old dinosaurs will exist and nobody else new and innovative will be able to get into the industry. Also, as he points out, there are penalties.
9:31You will pay via the market if you put out a faulty product or a product that doesn't do what it says it's gonna do or is not good or doesn't do things on time or whatever it might be. There are those penalties, but then there are also civil and criminal penalties if you put out dangerous products. So we have most of the right ways to control this are for the people that are the experts who are doing it now to self-control. That is not perfect, but there is no perfect system. And if you freaking think that Bernie Sanders through a couple of regulations and a bunch of government regulators are gonna create the perfect system, I just don't know what to do with you at this point.
10:10Now, let's continue because this all started, of course, because this low-level employee at Anthropic who suddenly started sounding the alarm. Next thing you know, he's got a piece in the Wall Street Journal. He's on every TV station everywhere. Bernie's got legislation ready. And everyone's pointing at Anthropics CEO Dario Omidai, who is trying to get his company to go public next month while also telling you that his company is going to destroy the world. It's a rather strange business proposition. Look at this from the New York Post. Meet Anthropics CEO Dario Omidai's handpicked super woke globalists he thinks will save us from AI apocalypse.
10:48Revealed, far left group that Silicon Valley wants to oversee our tech-led future, the woke wizards of AI. So look at these. They all look like sort of standard wokester, like kind of asexual, that weird lefty thing. And there's a lot more information. So these are the people that he had tasked with making sure this was all gonna be laid out safely and everything else. Well, we got some info here from ChatGPT, which is an AI system. Dario Omidai has proposed giving outside evaluators from METER, model evaluation and threat research, employee-like access to frontier labs to assess safety risks.
11:29But METER is closely connected to the same effective altruist network that helped shape Anthropic. It grew out of Paul Cristiano's Alignment Research Center. Cristiano was Omidai's former OpenAI colleague and housemate, and METER figures include Beth Barnes and Ajaya Kotra have longstanding ties to the same AI safety community. Critics argue that this makes METER less of a truly independent auditor and more of an extension of the same ideological and professional ecosystem, one that already favors catastrophic risk concerns, slower frontier development, and centralized oversight. The concern is that giving METER special access could concentrate influence within a small interconnected group rather than subject frontier labs to genuinely adversarial and ideologically diverse scrutiny.
12:17So you get it? It's just like this inside circle jerk of people who all think the same way and work together and have worked together and we'll all police ourselves. And of course, what do they really all love? It's centralized control more than anything else. Now that's in contrast to what did Elon Musk propose? We showed you the video either yesterday or the day before when he was, when he zoomed into the all-in conference. He was saying, hey guys, We don't need the government to come in and force us to do things. Why don't we all hopefully trust our companies to build good things, but then we can all get together on our own volition, on our own accord, open up the books, see what's working and what's not.
12:55And you might think, boy, that's a, you might say that's a strange way to do business, right? Because you usually wanna crush the competition. But that would, but what I think Elon is offering is, hey, let's, this stuff is actually dangerous. Like we are opening a Pandora's box here. So why not take the best people, like let's put some of our immediate quests to be number one, despite all of the risks, and how about we talk about it and see if we can do things together. That seems a little better to me. Of course, the other option is we could just hand it to the government and well, Elizabeth Warren.
13:29Today, I'm calling to immediately press pause on the development of advanced AI while lawmakers and regulators put systems into place to keep people safe. Leave that up there for just a second. Look, I keep making this point about Bernie. It doesn't matter if it's Bernie or Elizabeth Warren or any of these people. Think how ridiculous this is. Elizabeth Warren, who is like the librarian from hell or Bernie Sanders, who six years ago was telling us that we had six years before climate change was gonna kill us all. If you look at that, she wants to press pause on the development of advanced AI. So advanced AI, it's being built by these very advanced people doing cutting edge technology.
14:11And what, Connor put it up one more time, lawmakers and regulators will put systems in place. Ah, lawmakers, because Mitch McConnell probably, can we get the picture of Mitch McConnell from yesterday? Let's see if we can get that. I feel like Mitch McConnell probably will be able to regulate this thing. And regulators, again, government regulators, they're looking out for you. But you know, if a government regulator really knew what he was doing, he wouldn't work for the government. He'd probably work for one of those companies. So what she's really saying is, we want to control this. We see some value there, and we the government, we're looking out for you.
14:51And if you think the government's looking out for you after they injected you with some stuff, and they killed your grandma, and locked you in your house, and all the rest of it, again, I don't even know how to finish that sentence anymore. Like, I got a bridge to sell you, it doesn't even matter. But yes, Mitch McConnell, I think that this guy, that's Mitch McConnell yesterday. He literally can't even emote. They've just got him just like on frozen smile. They took a vote yesterday at like an agriculture hearing and he didn't know how to say yay or nay. But okay, he should regulate, yeah. Ro Khanna, who is the slimiest sleazebag in sleaze town, here he is.
15:28He desperately, desperately wants controls, right? He's a Democrat, so he wants control over the internet. Mike Johnson, on the other hand, leader of the Republicans in the House, he is leaning towards what Elon is, what David Sachs is, what Trump is, which is what Zuckerberg just laid out, let these companies self-regulate. But of course, Ro Khanna, government, government, government. Mike Johnson just said that open AI should self-regulate and self-police. They can self-police, they can self-regulate. They don't need the government to tell them to slow it down. Mike, take it from the guy from Silicon Valley.
16:07That is crazy. The tech lords who are making the AI models can't be trusted to write the rules for the AI models. The tech executives who are talking about taking all our jobs and possibly destroying civilization can't be trusted to protect us. We, the people, need to make the rules. Congress needs to act. It's just, it's so like, it sounds right in the thinnest way, but okay, we can't trust the people who are the experts in building the things, who again are warning us that there's some dangers there. We should just trust you. We should just trust Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and Ro Khanna.
16:47Now, if AI was building a golf course, I might trust Ro Khanna because as you I think we have some info here. Not only is Ro Khanna worth somewhere between 69 and 167 plus millions of dollars, and it's actually more than that. His two minor children, that means they're under the age of 18, hold trusts in three private Ohio golf clubs, Barrington, Sandridge, and Mayfield. So while he's constantly telling you to tax the billionaires and fight the Epstein class and all of those things, his minor children are using a tax shelter to hide money because he doesn't wanna be taxed. These people are all frauds and buffoons and they just want your money and your obedience and don't give it to them.
17:39Bernie Sanders did have a meeting with Steve Bannon. Bernie's been of course screaming about the Epstein class for two years. Then he had a meeting, very powerful meeting with Steve Bannon who was one of Epstein's great allies And here's Bernie with a stark warning. Political scientists warn that AI could threaten the integrity of our elections and political institutions. This technology will escape human control with potentially catastrophic consequences. Okay, okay. Political scientists. scientists, guys, political scientists are warning us that it could affect the integrity of our elections.
18:26You mean our elections right now, we're in blue states, we don't have to show IDs. Oh my God, the integrity of those things where you could just show up and tell them whoever the hell you are, the integrity of that, that's going to be a problem. You're really worried about that. And then he's also worried about the integrity of our institutions. You mean the Supreme Court that you want to pack or the institution of federalism where you're now trying to bring in new states? You want to turn D.C. into a state? Like whatever. It's just nonsense. But of course, it's political scientists are warning.
18:58Of course, as you know, we played this yesterday and then I put it on Twitter. It went crazy viral. Bernie six years ago was warning that we only had six years to go. The scientists are telling us that if we don't act incredibly boldly within the next six, seven years, there will be irreparable damage done, not just to Nevada, not just to Vermont or Massachusetts, but to the entire world. Joe said it right. This is an existential threat. You know what? Yeah. And you know what? Donald Trump's been president for four, basically, of those six years. And we didn't do much of anything. We got ourselves out of the Paris Climate Accords.
19:38We've done some renewable energy stuff. I know you don't like Elon, who's doing a lot of that. But we're here. We're going to be OK. I did call my buddy in Reno. It was a beautiful day yesterday, so Nevada's doing just fine. Like, don't fall for these doomsdayers. This is chicken little. The sky is falling, and it's falling and falling, and the next thing you know, you've handed over every bit of control over your life. I just mentioned this, but I put up another tweet that did quite well yesterday. Look at these two together. Look at these two together. Do me a favor, check, how many times has Bernie tweeted about Epstein in the last year or something like that.
20:15And there's so many pictures. There's probably no person that has more pictures and video with Epstein than Steve Bannon, but here they are together because this is the odd couple from hell. They're gonna save you, how profoundly absurd. Now, there are some good guys on this side. One of them is a guy I've been playing a lot of videos of lately. He's a former co-founder of Palantir, now this kind of legendary tech investor doing all sorts of things, Joe Lonsdale. he retweeted that tweet. He wrote this, like I said, watch out for BBC, broken parts of the right and left, both resentful, both rooting against the USA and doing the bidding of the CCP.
20:53So his point there is you have these two, this is sort of the horseshoe theory of politics thing. You've got the crazy far lefty in Bernie Sanders. You've got the sort of crazy broken, whatever he is on the right, Steve Bannon. And they just see this as a way. They just see this as a way to assume power. Lonsdale, of course, is also founder of 8VC. Here he is. He went on Jesse Waters last night, and he went after Josh Hawley, which was interesting. Now, generally speaking, I like Josh Hawley. You know, obviously, he's been Republican. I think he largely gets it. But suddenly, he now is saying, yes, we need some legislation around this, and Lonsdale commented on that.
21:36What's that? Sorry, this is on Will Cain. Not on Jesse Waters. Why would Josh Hawley join with the likes of Bernie Sanders? Josh has been attacking tech for a long time. He thinks it's his ticket to be popular on the right. Listen, we should hold big tech accountable, but we should do it in a way that's American, based on how the American founders wanted things. Woodrow Wilson, when he created this massive regulatory state, he was recreating the star chamber that we fought against in England. If you go back in our civilization, we don't need star chambers. We don't need cronies. We don't need these regulators harassing people.
22:07What you need is you need liability. These companies should be held extremely liable for any damage they do. It's going to be a$2 trillion IPO. They should lose all of that if they cause hundreds of billions of dollars of damage, because they'll be liable for the damage. We should pass laws. We should do our gosh darn job passing laws, making sure it's even more clear what they're liable for, making it easier for them to be liable. We shouldn't be putting regulators in. They're just going to get captured. They're just going to be unaccountable. That's not how America works. The right should be against regulation, but for liability to hold companies.
22:35That is just so completely right. Again, do you think government regulators, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, that they could even do it on top of the fact that it then creates the regulatory capture that keeps the new companies out, right? So it creates monopolies and stagnation. But what he says there is the same thing in essence that Zuckerberg is saying up top, which is companies have a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. If Anthropik's about to go public, like maybe they would be like, And I'm like, boy, we do have a fiduciary responsibility to make the most money for people.
23:10Ending the world probably isn't the best idea right now, but also we have laws if they put products out there that are dangerous, that are causing harm. But if you wanna pass a couple more laws around what the damages are for AI companies that do things that are illegal or immoral or whatever you wanna say that cause damages to people, then I could get on board that. But having the government that has no expertise in this come in and regulate them, I think is just ridiculous. Another guy who I like a lot, who we play a lot of clips of is Jason Calcanis over from the All In podcast. Here he is on Jesse Waters talking about this confusion around what regulation would do.
23:55And you alluded to this with Bernie Sanders getting into this and other folks. People, when they see a crisis like this, wanna jump on it and they have agendas. And one of the agendas here is to do what's called regulatory capture, create a bunch of rules so maybe these one or two companies can win the market. And then the smaller companies coming up or open source, where anybody can own the technology, maybe they get regulated out of existence. And so there are some nefarious forces that work here. And it's our job, you know, All In podcast, you know, you here as a host here in the mainstream media to kind of debunk this a bit.
24:31President Trump came to the All In Summit or he phoned into the All In Summit and said, listen, nerds, get back to work. Jansen knows what he's talking about. Satya Nadella, Elon Musk, they all to a point said, sure, there could be some concerns, but let's just not release broken software. And Elon had a just perfect solution. Why don't we build software that tests these large language models, chat GPTs and PropExquad, and let we just test each other's models and look for vulnerabilities, and then we'll publish the vulnerabilities. That's a perfectly reasonable next step. But I can tell you something, the Chinese are going to speedrun to get to superintelligence.
25:10So President Trump's correct. We can't slow down, but we just need to be careful. All right. So Jason there, he reiterated the point that I made about Elon earlier, that you can get software to be testing these things, and these companies can kind of work together, realizing they're all screaming, my God, we're dealing with such powerful stuff here. like maybe that you can get them on board, you know, some sort of co-testing and they would like that rather than the government. He also makes the point, the government is not particularly good at this stuff. He also makes the point that China will race ahead no matter what.
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25:42And you know, when you listen to him right there for that minute or the clip we showed you before, just right before that about Lonsdale, it's like, do you think they know what they're talking about? I do. Do you think Bernie Sanders knows what he's talking about when it comes to, I really try to picture Bernie Sanders sitting down at the end of the day trying to turn on Apple TV and figuring out which one's Netflix and which one's Amazon Prime. You think he can do it? I don't. But you want to give him control of the Internet and the future? Another guy that I like is Caldecanis' co-host on the All In Podcast, David Sachs.
26:17Here he is with Laura Ingraham. And this is really the key part. OK, you're going to slow us down via regulation here. That's one thing. You're going to let China then run towards superintelligence. That's another. But of course, what they will also want to do is create some sort of globalist movement that really will stop the U.S. from innovating because we are the innovators. Go. Amadei's plan doesn't go far enough that there should be this regulatory body, this global body to monitor and regulate AI. What could go wrong? Well, I don't know how Dario's plan could go any further. He already says that we have to coordinate with the Europeans.
26:55We have to make a deal with the European Union. Then he says we have to make a deal with the Chinese. I mean, what's left? Martians? I mean, this is the way they think about this issue. They want a world health organization for AI. They basically want AI governance to be done by some sort of globalist body. What we believe is that responsibility starts at home. It's your responsibility to make it safe. And the government's role in that should be to make sure that you have the right incentives. So if you don't make it safe, you can be sure that we will basically hold you accountable. You have product liability.
27:30You'll be sued in the courts. The regulators will come after you. The Trump administration will come after you. Again, I mean, it's three straight clips in a row. It's like people that are experts in this that are building it, making sense, understanding market forces, understanding what the goal of a company actually is, understanding, as he pointed out there at the end, the proper role of government, maybe having some guardrails around this related to laws that would punish companies if they do crazy things. But the real purpose of that clip was that they want some sort of globalist organization to tell us what to do.
28:03And then think about it, all the countries that won't sign on to it, or whether China signs on or not, Do you think they're gonna honor it? They'll be rushing forward to do this. Or we're gonna find out one day that, you know, there was a little outfit in Pakistan, actually, that, you know, Pakistan didn't sign on to our AI treaty. And next thing you know, Pakistan will be ahead of us in the race to super intelligence. That is literally what will happen. And also, do you think that any of these giant organizations, these groups, we all signed a piece of paper saying we're gonna cut emissions and...
28:36Paris Climate Accords, They did absolutely nothing. There was no mechanism in them to force any country to do anything. What right do we have as a fully industrialized nation to tell India, which is going through its industrial revolution, what they can do? It's the same exact thing. So what it would do is that the US would be punished because we have the greatest, richest, most robust set of people and ideas that are innovating and it will slowly bring everybody else up. So that's exactly, which by the way, is exactly why Bernie wants it. Do you think he likes America very much? It's interesting that all of the people who rail against how awful America is all the time want regulation and then they want us to be beholden to some group outside.
29:24You know, it's also sort of like when they're always like, well, it's international criminal court. The ICC said this. Who gives a flying F what the ICC says? I'm an American. I'm beholden to the laws of the United States of America. There's an old piece of paper. They've got it somewhere in DC. It's called the Constitution. That's what governs us, not some international body of a bunch of people that don't know how to do anything who just would like to control you. Let's talk about Kalshi for a minute and then we'll do more on the other side. Speaking of AI and tech, will the US create a national AI regulator?
29:56Well, look right here. Here's what the Kalshi markets are showing. Kalshi's like buying or selling a stock except the line isn't set by an algorithm working against you. It moves based on where the money actually goes. So if you put$100 on no, you can earn 117 if correct. Download the CallShe app and use code RUBENREPORT to get 25 bucks. When you trade 25 bucks, CallShe, put your money where your prediction is. All right, let's pause on AI for a moment, mostly, and talk about pooping. Because in New York, there aren't a lot of public bathrooms. I say this as someone that spent many of my formative years in New York City.
30:33and you know, if you have to go to the bathroom, you basically have to run into a Starbucks, but then Starbucks mostly had become homeless shelters for people where they took the tables out because they were so nice and tolerant and usually there were people doing meth in the bathroom, so then you might wanna go to a hotel bathroom, but then they started locking it or making sure you needed to have a keypad. So public bathrooms are a bit of an issue in New York because then also homeless people just started pooping on the streets and you all know about the poop map up in San Francisco. So now they've got the socialist, the socialist Islamist mayor of New York City, Zorhan Mamdami, and how many people in the five boroughs of New York?
31:09How many? 8.6 million people in New York, wandering through New York. Many of them have to poop or pee or whatever it might be. And well, the socialist, he's gonna save them all because he's putting in 17 new bathrooms. Look at this. 17 new public bathrooms all across five boroughs because you can't wait and you shouldn't have to. Wow, 17 new bathrooms. Thank you, socialism. And of course, we know these bathrooms will all become drug dens and weird sex places and weird sex and drug places and everything else. Here's a bit from AM New York on the plan. Mayor Zorhan Mamdami announced Wednesday that installation has begun on the free modular bathrooms, part of a four million year-long pilot aimed at addressing the city's longstanding shortage of public bathrooms.
32:00As of June 25, New York City had 975 operational public restrooms. That's about one for every 8 ,700 residents, according to a January report from the Independent Budget Office. Roughly 85 % were located in public parks. The new 17 ADA accessible units will operate daily from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. and include running water, flushing toilets, heat and air conditioning, and baby changing stations. But entry requires a text message QR code, the Throne app from the company operating the bathrooms or a physical tap card distributed through local organizations. The 17 new ADA accessible units will operate daily from 7 a.m.
32:39to 10 p.m. and include running water, flushing toilets. Oh, we did this already. Okay, so you're going to need an app and some form of ID to poop in New York City. You will not need a form of ID or an app or anything else to vote in New York City. We do have some video of what these bathrooms look like, these 17 bathrooms for the 8 million people. Take a look. Here we go. Come on in. Great. Inside. The door automatically closes. Wave at the light on the door to exit when you're done. Great. Bienvenido a throne. Nos encargamos de la puerta. Cuando terminas, agite la mano frente al anillo de luz para salir.
33:21And then you've got touchless features, so the toilet, you don't need touchless flush, touchless sink and soap. We also have free menstruation pads and a baby shaking station, pups. And I really love this paper towel dispenser and trash. Amazing. Yeah, and then to exit, you just wave your hand, so no touching the door. And there we go. Yay! I really love the paper towel dispenser. Oh my God, it's a dispenser with paper towel. I love it. That is nice that they have a menstruation thing for the men of New York City, so that's pretty good. Also, I'm sure many of you were thinking the same thing I was, and if you were, we are deeply bonded, and I love you very much, but the wallpaper in that New York City bathroom right there, that's the same wallpaper that Blanche Devereaux had in her bedroom in the Golden Girls, and she even had matching linen on her bed.
34:22Look at that. So I'll give it, all right, I'm trying to just find something, a little silver lining here. But we did a little math on this using AI, and that's why they'll hate us even more. But if 8.6 million people had to share 17 bathrooms, that's one stall per 505 ,882 people. Those 17 stalls open 15 hours a day could theoretically handle only 3 ,800 poops a day, Taking post-poop breakfast into account, each person would get a turn roughly once every six years. And that's why they want to control AI. Here's Zorhan on how he'll stop the bathrooms from becoming encampments. Although I empathize as the father of a six and three year old of having more public bathrooms, I've also covered instances in other places where modular style public bathrooms have resulted in drugs, prostitution, and homeless encampments.
35:17So I'm wondering how you're going to combat that here. Every single unit is cleaned by a real person and has done so on average every 15 uses or fewer. The other is that these are bathrooms where there's, there is, you know, you start to have flashing lights after a certain point to encourage people to get out of the bathroom. The other thing is after plenty of warnings, as the mayor is talking about, with acknowledgement that the time is up, the door eventually will open, letting that user know well in advance. And that's actually saved lives in other locations where someone is having a medical emergency.
35:56Contrary to your traditional public restroom that has a door that might stay locked for hours until maintenance comes along and knocks, this actually provides access to an individual where people can walk by and see, In some cases, our cleaners have showed up and been able to help somebody immediately. And all of our staff will be offered training on Narcan as well. Thank God I no longer live in that place. Okay. So first off, that's nice. They're going to have, in case you're pooping for too long, they're going to have flashing lights. So it'll basically turn into a club. That's great. And yeah, then they're going to have Narcan available for the meth heads or whatever Narcan solves.
36:35Is that fentanyl? I don't even know what it is. It's just like, this isn't going to work. You're gonna have, they're all gonna turn into dumps, literally and figuratively, and we're gonna clean them every 15 uses. And he says a human's gonna do it, except this might be where you might want a robot to do it because it ain't the best job. You're just awful. One of my employees, I don't wanna say who, and it's not someone that physically works here with me. It's one of our, we have several remote employees. I wanted to make note of this, that recently there was a house under construction on his block and they put up a porta potty.
37:11And he said within 48 hours, junkies found it and two people had to be removed from shooting up and overdosing in the porta potty next door to him. And now it has a padlock on it. Did it have the same wallpaper as Blanche Devereaux's bedroom? I don't know, but the point is of course, this is just going to turn into a drug filth, plagued, awful, horrendous thing, much like what happened when San Francisco tried it. Yeah, take a look. Sex, drugs, and filth plague city-sponsored public restrooms. Can't these people find better places to have sex and do drugs? Like who's like, yeah, there's a porta potty, let's go have sex and do, like that.
37:50That's definitely one thing that's happened to me as I've gotten older. I despise public bathrooms. I cannot, I hold my breath. When I'm at the airport, I literally hold my breath while I'm peeing. There's a little info for you. Let's talk about Chapter and then we will move on. Medicare is one of the things that can get incredibly confusing. You guys know that. There are tons of plans, tons of fine print, and most people don't have the time to sit there and figure out whether they're actually the right one. That's where Chapter comes in. Chapter has independent Medicare advisors who compare every plan nationwide to help you find the plan that best fits your need, your doctor, and your prescriptions.
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38:54It's more of a washroom. It's just a toilet and a sink here and five or six people here working on a daily basis. I'm not calling anyone out live, but somebody's dribbling. Somebody's dribbling, okay? Wow, you all laughed. You all gave me the exact same laugh at the exact same time, which means either you all know it or you're all dribbling. All right, we're gonna have a team meeting after we're gonna have to discuss this. So okay, that's what they're doing over in New York. And what's happening in Cali, which is equally as crazy as New York? Well, high taxes, high regulation. What does it mean?
39:23Well, Hollywood is literally leaving, listen to this, from Defy and Elizon X. Paramount is reportedly preparing to leave California over legal battle with the state over its proposed$110 billion Warner Brothers merger. While the DOJ cleared the massive entertainment merger, California and 11 states filed an antitrust lawsuit to block it. CEO David Ellison has said the company could begin moving out as early as October 1st with Tennessee, Texas, and Georgia reportedly among the possible destinations. LA economic analysts estimate that California could lose up to 58 ,000 jobs and 21.2 billion in annual economic output if Paramount moves.
40:05I mean, Paramount, look at that. The water tower, the Hollywood sign in the back, like that is as much of an institution, Paramount, Warner Brothers, Universal, all of these things. And they're not producing movies there anymore. They have taxed them into oblivion. And eventually Really people say enough is enough. And the irony of the 58 ,000 people who will lose their jobs is probably 45 ,000 of them are just lefty ding-dongs who voted for all the policies that's gonna force the company that they work for to fire them. Listen to this from Grock. Paramount, now led by David Ellison, is threatening to leave California, mainly because of a bitter fight with California Attorney General Rob Bonta.
40:47Bonta's leading a 12-state antitrust lawsuit to block Paramount's roughly$110 billion takeover of Warner Brothers. Discovery and Ellison have told executives that if there's no settlement by about October 1st, 2026, the company will start moving headquarters and eventually more operations to cheaper, more welcoming states such as Tennessee, Texas, or Georgia. You know, a micro version of this would be that The Daily Wire moved. The Daily Wire, their offices were about a mile from my house in Los Angeles. COVID happened, all the craziness. They were like, we've just had it. And where did they move?
41:21They moved to Nashville. Taxes are way less, the employees are happier because there's no state income tax. There's less regulation. They were able to build their studios, which are fantastic in Nashville, basically in no time. Get the building, I have no doubt, was cheaper. The housing was cheaper for the employees and everything else. And at some point, people are just like, yeah, I get it. LA is nice, it's 75 degrees a lot, but it's just not worth staying here. Now, one guy who's staying for now, but I'm telling you, if you thought he was red-pilled a couple months back when he was running for mayor, he is so red-pilled right now.
41:58And just on a rampage, you know, I'm talking about Spencer Pratt. Here he is just leveling this entire situation. And that's another thing Bonehead Bonta fails to tell you. It was Netflix was originally the buyer for Warner Brothers, and Bonehead Bonta had no problem with that. Are you shilling for Netflix? He says that if Paramount merges with Warner Brothers, it will decimate industry competition because the studios would go from five to four. What? Did we go all these years only to find out now that Rob Bonta can't even count? Did he get into DeLorean and gun it to 88 back to an ancient past where Amazon and Netflix didn't exist?
42:33When Lionsgate didn't just join the Trace Comics Club with Michael? When a YouTuber with 750 grand just grossed$300 million in theaters with Obsession? What planet are you living on where there's not enough competition in Hollywood? Bonta again has to deliberately exclude the streamers in order to cook up his bullshit argument that Paramount would have a near monopoly in cable when in reality, cable share of viewers is vanishing so rapidly. Paramount would only own 7 % of all television, 7%. That's the monopoly? Bons is his pants over? I mean, they're gonna rue the day that they burned his house down because he's obviously not, he's gonna keep fighting and fighting and fighting.
43:10My suspicion is within two years, he'll live in Florida, but still he's gonna be a headache for them. You know, in some ways, it's the same story as AI. What you have is government getting involved. Government seems to not, they're very concerned that if Paramount and Warner Brothers merge, that's what the attorney general is upset about, that there's gonna be less competition. It's very, doesn't it sound like the AI story in some sense? And it's like, dude, you're not even thinking straight because Amazon exists and Netflix exists and Tubi and FUBU and Pluto and all these other freak YouTube douchebag and they're all out there, people.
43:44So it's like the government just, all you're doing, these companies wanna make a merger. Is it because they're all bad people and they just wanna destroy everything? Or maybe they have some reasons that as they're watching the industry change, they're realizing if they join forces, they could compete in different ways. But then some attorney general, it's just like Bernie Sanders showing up, I'll stop you bad tech companies from doing that. And it's the attorney general, I'll stop you bad entertainment companies from doing what you wanna do. And then they're just like, okay, goodbye. Goodbye. And they're not the only ones saying goodbye to that craptastic place.
44:17Listen to this from Deadline. American Idol moving production to Georgia as ABC series becomes latest to leave in California. You know, if you wanna make some mad cash, this is just a tip for somebody that's out there. Open up a Botox, what else do they do? Restylane, one of those things. You're gonna get all these LA people now coming to Georgia. I'm sure Georgia has, they've got the Georgia housewives. They've probably got plenty of that stuff there. But as you bring it in, these women, they are going to need, or what's his name? The guy who's the Simon Cowell. You saw what happened to his face over the years.
44:50It's like, show me old Simon Cowell and new Simon Cowell. We'll do that in just a second. But that's a good idea. You gotta, you're gonna move all these people out. You gotta give them what they want. And it's usually botulism in their face. Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary, Scott Turner, here he is finding out that, well, telling us about a homeless organization in Los Angeles that was basically a giant money laundering scheme to the tune of$75 million. We will not tolerate the theft and the abuse of taxpayer dollars in our country. These frosters received over$130 million.
45:28More than$75 million of those were funneled through the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, also known as LASA. That is nearly the same amount LASA received from HUD every year until the Trump administration put an end to the California corruption. LASA has continually funded a homeless industrial complex on the backs of American taxpayers while fraud has continually run rampant. All right, so you get it. I don't have to analyze this too much. Again, it's just, oh, we're going to help the homeless. What do we need? Lots of money. It turns out to be just money laundering, fraud. They don't get homeless people off the streets.
46:07If any of it worked, then California, with the amount of money they put into homelessness, everyone would have a freaking home, but they have exploding homelessness. And why is it that we don't have that, say in Florida? And there's many reasons for it, but first it's because we arrest you if you're doing drugs on the street. It's also because we create the conditions for a flourishing economy. Thus, people have jobs. They don't lose their jobs as much. They don't become homeless. We can do the long list on that, but I'd rather show you Simon Cowell's face, what happened here. I mean, so what I'm saying is, is he still on American Idol?
46:36I don't even know. I never really watched it. But the point is, if these people are moving, they're gonna need whatever juice they're injecting him with in Georgia. So somebody open up a little aesthetic day spa over there in Georgia. Nick Sorter over on Twitter pointed out something that I thought was rather interesting, as long as we're talking about fraud and such. Breaking, the US House just passed a bill that forces states, including Minnesota and California, to hand over any and all information demanded by the Attorney General to investigate fraud against federal programs, Medicaid, SNAP, TANF, unemployment insurance, various COVID-era funds, broadband grants, disaster assistance, and more are all included.
47:16Newsom is not gonna be happy. So here's a rare moment that the federal government, they're passing a law that actually makes sense. The states should, if you are getting one shiny dollar from the federal government, you should have to show all of your receipts on that. And that's gonna look pretty bad for Tim Walz over in Minnesota. It's gonna look pretty bad for Gavin Newsom and everything else. We will see if something happens. But Nick Shirley, who, as you know, I mean, he's the kid that basically blew the cover off the Leering Center and all of the Somali fraud and everything else. He brought up a good point.
47:49I was gonna make it, but I'll just read what he was saying here. He responded to that tweet and he said, it's crazy. This is something that wasn't already in place. the Lerers, the learners, destroyed the good faith America operated on, and now it's time for full transparency to destroy all the fraudsters looting from the legal hardworking citizens. And ain't that the truth? How is it possible that, well, the federal government has been giving money to the states and all of these programs to do these things, we already didn't have some program or basic way of following the accounting on all this stuff, which by the way, AI could help with.
48:23if AI could help with transparency and everything else. Here's data dorks, CNN's Harry Enten with some surprisingly good news. There might be reasons to think the GOP, at least on the Senate side, is gonna do okay in the midterms. The GOP was underestimated by more than two points in major statewide races. It's happened a lot. It's happened a lot recently. Getting a little schvitzier. I think I'm gonna have to have a drink in a second. If the polls undershot the Republicans by greater than three points, well, that's all you need. That's all you need for Republicans in order for them to actually probably hold on to the U.S.
48:57House of Representatives. They would likely win 218-plus House seats. And keep in mind, this polling error absolutely has happened before. Therefore, when we talk about the race being within the margin of error, the House of Representatives, even if Democrats are favored, it is still within the margin of error that Republicans can win if we see polling misses like we have before. I keep calling him the data dork. Phoenix likes, what do you like? Polling Poindexter. That a dork just kind of flows a little bit better. But that aside, I think I said he had good moves mostly on the Senate side. That was actually on the congressional side, but that's the point.
49:31And by the way, this is why I'm never caught up too much in polls. Sane, functional people. I have never once been called for a poll. We know for years, once cell phones became ubiquitous, they were still calling people on landlines. That's a certain subset of people that are gonna pick up, right? And are there people that are gonna vote Republican and just wouldn't want people to know because they might be thought of as racist and everything else. But the basic point of that is if the polls are off by, just a tiny bit is really, really good for the Republicans in the House. And on the Senate side, look, the Senate side is weird.
50:05We've got the Marxist, Islamist, jihadi running in Michigan and we'll see what happens there. And Mike Rogers, please pull out all the stops and make that thing happen in Michigan. Texas is the weirdest one, obviously, with Tallarico. and all the numbers seem to be breaking towards him right now, but we will see. But also don't forget the Republicans have the tiebreaker because of the vice president and also the Democrat Nazi that Bernie Sanders was a big fan of and so was Elizabeth Warren. Graham Plattner's out now that now they've got some guy that literally nobody is talking about. I don't even know his name.
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51:09Get your free quote at ethos.com slash Rubin. That's E-T-H-O-S dot com slash Rubin. Application times may vary, rates may vary as well. Let's do a rubenreport.locals.com community Q &A and Joseph once again is at the computer. The robots could take over, the laptop could close on his fingers, but he's willing to risk it because Dave Rubin pays all of his health insurance. Hell of a guy, wouldn't you say? So if you wanna get a question in live, rubenreport.locals.com. Elizabeth says, do the boys love playing with Clyde? Does Clyde enjoy it or just tolerate it? We keep getting a lot of questions.
51:43People just wanna see more pictures of Clyde lately. We haven't shown too many of them lately. He's just doing great. There he is. People always ask about that little scar on his head when we adopted him that day, when I saved him from the shelter. He had a huge, it was a bloody, like open bloody gash. They didn't know what happened. And he had surgery, actually. You know, I can't remember the doctor's name. He was a fan of the show. And he reached out to me when I posted a picture of Clyde. I'm blanking on the doctor's name, but just did a bang up job. And he's got a little scar there. But to the boy, yeah, the boys do play with him a lot.
52:13But just in the last few weeks, they're like poking him a little bit more. You know, they're pulling on his tail a little bit. And we've been really trying to calmly explain to them that we love Clyde. Clyde loves all of us, but you don't want to be pulling a dog's tail or, you know, poking him too much because he might react in a bit of a weird way. But he's, even though some, I guess he may look in some sense, I guess he could look a little scary if you got a little chihuahua or something. Oh, I got a funny chihuahua story. You know, he's just, he's so freaking sweet and kind and good. Funny enough, when I got him from the, it was that first day of COVID and I went to the shelter because they were gonna put all these dogs down and I literally grabbed him.
52:53I didn't have a mask, they wouldn't let me in. And whatever, I grabbed him. I kid you not, he was in the back with about 10 other dogs. They weren't in cages. They were just in one like pen. And there was, and this is only in LA would this happen. And I think we have a picture of it somewhere, Connor. Maybe you can find it. We definitely played it. We definitely showed this picture about five years ago. there was a chihuahua that was about this big, literally in a dress trying to hump him. My guess is it was a male chihuahua because that's how they roll in LA, but we probably have that picture somewhere.
53:23He was sexually accosted by a little chihuahua in a dress and now he lives here in the free state of Florida. Rob says, even though Trump usually speaks optimistically about how things are going and about the future, what would you guess he's most regretful about and would do differently if he could? That's a great question.
53:42he doesn't strike me as someone that has a lot of regret. I think when things don't go his way, whatever that might be, I think he just probably lets it go. But what would he do differently? I think it's possible that he would have come out even more guns blazing right when the administration started. Now they did, I'm gonna try to come up with a better answer than that while I'm talking this one out. Cause they did come out pretty quickly, right? There was all the doge stuff. They cut a lot of fraud. They did close the border immediately. They did get a certain amount of deportations going. I think maybe he would have gone even a little harder on the deportations, because if the Democrats win the midterms, it's basically over.
54:24I don't think he, he doesn't strike me as someone that has regrets. I think he, I think for, if you look at Donald Trump's business history over the years, you know, he had buildings and projects that were massively successful and other things that were huge failures or flops. He had the Taj Mahal in Jersey, Jersey City, Atlantic City, and that very famously flopped. But I'm guessing he doesn't regret any of that. He uses the losses against the gains, obviously, for tax purposes. He moves money around and then he does other projects. So he just doesn't strike me as someone that has regrets. Well, I don't know, let me think about that a little bit more.
54:59Everyone put on your thinking cap. What do you think he would have done differently in these two years? I don't know that there's much. Like even if your argument would be, well, the polling on the Iran war is not great. And it's pretty much 50-50. But even if your argument is that, I don't think he regrets it. I think he did what he thought is right. And he would say that repeatedly. Like, you know, it's sort of like, he says sometimes, like, I don't know if this is gonna work out with the polls or I don't know if they're gonna punish me or hate me for this or whatever. He does what he thinks is right.
55:28So people that generally, I try to live that way. I try to make business decisions that way. So generally, if you do it that way, you don't have regrets. Like, it doesn't mean it's all gonna work out, but then you just look back and you go, all right, now I just have to think about things maybe a little differently or adjust, but I don't regret it per se. Glenn says, how old were you when you first realized you wanted to be a famous standup comedian or other ways like what you're doing now? Well, I remember the first, well, first off, my friends were all funny. Like that was our language. We were just fun.
55:59We grew up in the eighties with ridiculous comedies. And I remember the first time I saw Airplane And I remember, I really remember the first time I saw Naked Gun, which I think is the best comedy movie ever. And as you know, I've interviewed and become friends with David Zucker, who's one of the co-creators and director, which has been one of the great joys of my life. And we've had many, many dinners where just literally we laugh for five straight hours, all the crazy references and silly stuff. I remember seeing Naked Gun in the theater in 1989. I think it came out of May. And I probably saw it that week at the Syosset triplex in Long Island.
56:33And I kid you not, a fat man sitting in front of me in the seat in front of me in the aisle fell out of his seat and started rolling down the alley. That's how people, you can't, we've really lost something with people not going back to movies anymore. You know, it's like, there used to be this like, what do you do on a Saturday night? You go to the movie and I miss that. But anyway, your point about stand up and, when I was in seventh grade, I know exactly when I got my first big laugh. I was in seventh grade, I was in a class called Mock Trial. and they had us take a test about legal stuff. And depending on what you scored on the test, you would get a role in a mock trial that we were gonna put on at the end of the semester.
57:17And this kid, Robbie, who was really smart, he got the best grade on the test, probably got 100. So he was the judge in the case. And the next, I think, six people that got the highest scores were all lawyers, and I was one of them. and it was a murder trial that we had to put on and I was in the prosecution for the murder trial and we put on this big trial in front of like, big auditorium, I don't know, two, 300 kids and everyone had to play a role. So some of the kids that didn't do very well on the test that let's say weren't the brightest, they were like bit people in the act, right? And I remember I was cross-examining somebody.
57:56It was, I remember this kid's name too, Derek, he was a nice kid. but he couldn't remember anything about what his character was supposed to know. And it was an important thing. Like he was next door where the murder took place, whatever. And I started, so I asked basic questions. Like I was like, whatever his name was, I was like, Mr. Phillips, could you please tell me your address? And he couldn't remember his address. And I was like, Mr. Phillips, can you please tell me your wife's name? And he couldn't remember that. And then I just kept asking him ludicrous questions and people started absolutely hysterical laughing.
58:25And I remember the feeling of just like, Like when you get a big laugh, it just freaking fills you up. And then I chased that feeling for many, many years. And I think the way I do this show now and the way I do gigs now, like when I do public gigs, my goal is not to just every five sentences get a laugh, but you're gonna get a lot of laughs throughout. And I just find that more enjoyable, rather than the pressure of just having to get a laugh every two seconds. It's like, yeah, I'll tell you a story, we'll laugh a little bit, we'll do something serious, we'll bounce back and forth. That's what I like doing when we do our live events, which many of you have been to.
59:02And people are always like, yeah, wow, I didn't expect to laugh that much. I'm like, that's pretty great. Olaf says, has the Lindsay Clancy case given you cause to reflect or reconsider your position on abortion? You know, I would say my position on abortion, when I wrote Don't Burn This Book, and I laid out like all my positions on absolutely everything, My position on abortion was kind of safe but rare. And like, let's say you really should leave it to the states, which ultimately did happen. I wrote that before the reversal of Roe v. Wade. But that 12 weeks seemed about right to me. I get it.
59:38Life starts at conception. I don't doubt that. Like the sperm eats the egg, that's the beginning of life. Now you have a couple of days where, you know, cells are multiplying and it's a zygote. And, you know, we can have all those debates and maybe his heartbeat, whatever, and you wanna leave some variants there for health issues or rape, we can do all that dance. I don't feel like having a whole thing on abortion right now. But I would say as I've gotten older, that 12 week thing has started to lessen and lessen and lessen. And by the way, when AI will change things and there's gonna be artificial wombs on the way that will ensure that the woman, if she has health problems, will not be risked by the pregnancy.
1:00:18There's so many things changing. And yes, to your point of the Lindsay Clancy trial, it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of women who have so fetishized abortion, yes, have eight month abortions, well, suddenly now the mother has postpartum depression and that should be an excuse for her to kill the kids. So, you know, look, I don't love abortion, but I'm also a realist in that if you outlawed abortion 100%, it does not stop abortion. It just makes it a lot more dangerous and a lot more women will die and there'll be all sorts of terrible things happening with hangers in back alleys. So I think a society wants to create, you wanna create rough guardrails that accommodate the most people and then hopefully people can make choices within their lives that are functional.
1:01:02But again, if you are absolutely 100 % against abortion, and I'm completely fine with that position, you know, try to donate some more money to some of these organizations that actually encourage women who are struggling, who are about to get an abortion. What are they called? pregnancy clinics. They're basically reverse, they're the reverse of an abortion clinic. Like they will take you in and help you through the process of those nine months and then with financial help and other after. So there are things that you can do to get involved. Beth says, Dave, the other day, Lori got a Dave scribble.
1:01:35That was actually my idea, but I don't have one yet. Why? All right, wait, who is this? Who is this? This is Beth. Beth, you want a Dave scribble? Well, here's Dave's, here's the scribble that's at the top of my sheet today. So what do I wrote here? I wrote Government Getting Involved, Data Dork. Can't read that. Love the Pup. I don't know what that is. Merger, some scribbling. And that was for Beth. Is that for Beth? Yeah, okay. So Beth, there you go. I will date it today. What's today? The 16th, we said? Yeah, 17th. Okay. 26. Signed. And it's getting out to you today. Joseph, put that in the Rubin Report outgoing envelope for mail.
1:02:15Erica America says, That's a good name. I know you do a lot of outdoor grilling when cooking on the stove top. What type of pan do you use? Stainless steel, ceramic, Teflon, cast iron, copper. Also, what about utensils, bamboo, plastic, stainless? You are definitely a chef and an entertainer. I love it. I had my guys go into the kitchen and take a picture of two of my favorite. Well, we did a little more here. So that cast iron, which is incredibly clean, we do not clean that thing with any soaps or anything else. You season it by putting olive oil on it and letting it burn real hot and then cleaning it out every now and again.
1:02:50I don't always do that. You don't have to clean them that often, actually. The cast iron is my main go-to. I just love it. You can do amazing things in the cast iron and it just will cook brilliantly. It takes heat in well and it distributes heat really well. The pan that you're seeing on the right is a hex clad pan, which is a nonstick pan, but it doesn't have, you know, there's all sorts of like chemicals and stuff that are in traditional Teflon pans that you don't want. and also you can see we've little on the left one, on the cast iron one, we have a griddle there so you can make things that you're gonna get your burn marks, you could put steaks on there or some other stuff and then we also have a couple smaller things so you can simmer sauces and things of that nature.
1:03:29We do have a nice collection of pans and we are cooking a lot. Your other question was about utensils. Utensils, no, we do, we're just doing regular, I think we got them probably when we got married and got regular utensils at Bed Bath & Beyond way back when. But we have black forks. It's a black set of forks and knives. But yeah. And we do have our own chopsticks, actually. We do have, they give you the wooden chopsticks. We do have our own. Arthur says, when are you going to get a Neo robot for the Rubin Report studio? I wanna see your next AI sitcom cold open as a buddy cop movie with you in this lifeless machine fighting crime, co-anchoring the show, and struggling to do simple household chores, is not auto, autonomously.
1:04:14Do we have video of the Neo robot? So here's the picture. So the Neo robot, you know, I mentioned yesterday, there's a couple of robots that are coming out over the next year or so. So Neo is the first one that's about to come out. And I think it's in the next couple months. And what are they charging for it? I think it's around 50 grand or something, or you can probably rent it for like a thousand bucks a month, something like that. And it'll do basic things like laundry and some simple house tasks. And if I'm not mistaken, they will be able to control it as well if you're having trouble with it, which again, you could do some dystopian versions there.
1:04:48How much? 20 ,000. 20 ,000 bucks. So that's not that expensive. So that's the Neo one. That's the first one coming out. Now, Optimus Robot through Elon, obviously, I mean, the second that thing goes for sale, I'm gonna get my name on the list. And then of course, Figure AI, they're the real Optimus competitors and they're doing some incredible things as well. But in some sense, I've read that they're actually leading optimist right now in terms of the technology and dexterity and some of the learning. So look, the robots are coming and I gladly, I love the idea of eventually having, like, wouldn't it be cool if I had a sidekick here who was a robot that I could ask all the AI questions to and everything else?
1:05:24Like it would be pretty fun. And there's all sorts of other reasons. Your robots will help you with the simple tasks, as I said, folding laundry, things like that, cleaning up for sure. where they'll be able to help you with landscaping, but they'll also be able to help you with security, walking the dog. Eventually, again, you will not need your car because robo-taxis, whether you have a robo-taxi yourself, and then anytime someone visits you, oh, robo-taxi, just go to the airport and pick them up or take me to the grocery or whatever, or you own a fleet yourself or you're just using them. Like, so much is changing.
1:06:00There's so many cool things happening. and I'm always looking at that frontier with a little bit of hesitancy because of my love of sci-fi and everything else. But yes, I am in on the robot thing for sure. James says, what is the one piece of technology you would trade for the 80s version? So this was actually a pretty simple question in a sense, but the boom box, do we have a picture? Like an 80s style boom box, those were so freaking cool back in the day. I remember my slim Casio boom box with the dual cassette players. And we would literally record songs. Like you kids can't imagine. A song would come on Z100 in New York and we would record it on one cassette and then you could send it to the other cassette and then you could give that to your friend.
1:06:48That's how you had to do it. You kids are swiping now or whatever you're doing. They were so cool. They were so awesome. I would love to get just a boombox back involved. Now it's like everything's on an app through Spotify and it runs in zones in my house. When I'm off the grid, it's like, if I wanna listen to music, I gotta touch this thing where I used to have a boombox like that. But I will tell you one piece of technology that I actually am going a little bit backwards is I've completely gotten off the AirPods, just like the wireless AirPods that go in your ears. There was something about them.
1:07:20I never felt they fit that well. I never thought the audio was that good. My guess is they're sending some weird stuff to your brain. So I'm back on just wired, just old-fashioned wired earbuds. And they're fine. I actually like them in a weird way. So there you go. Any other thoughts, fellas? Anyone? Carlos Jimenez is coming in. Oh, tomorrow, Carlos Jimenez. We don't normally do our Friday shows. We usually pre-tape them on Thursdays. But Carlos Jimenez, who is our local congressman right here, we're gonna talk to him, so I'm excited about that. and then all sorts of stuff. Hopefully the robots don't get you.
1:07:58Until then, I thank you for watching. We've got a post-game show, rubinreport.locals.com. Goodbye.
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks about Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg's scathing reaction to Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei's push to regulate AI using the government as well as dubious third-party groups like METR that originated from the effective altruism movement; Bernie Sanders joining with Steve Bannon at the Pro Human Assembly to use scare tactics to push for AI regulation to prevent an AI apocalypse; Zohran Mamdani officially hiring Throne Labs to install 17 app-based public toilets while being unaware of the disaster of a similar program in San Francisco where the public toilets became magnets for drug use and prostitution; Spencer Pratt's viral attack on Gavin Newsom and Rob Bonta for blocking the Paramount merger with Warner Bros. to attack Donald Trump fan David Ellison who has responded by threatening to move Paramount out of Hollywood to either Tennessee or Georgia; Donald Trump lashing out at Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Warsh over his plan to raise interest rates to combat inflation; CNN's Harry Enten sharing new polling data that should make voters a little less trusting of betting against Donald Trump in the upcoming midterm elections; and much more. Dave also does a special "ask me anything" question-and-answer session on a wide range of topics, answering questions from the Rubin Report Locals community.
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