Bill O'Reilly Visibly Shocks Dave Rubin w/ His Dark Prediction for What Happens Next | Bill O'Reilly

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0:58So it's a free fire zone on crime. The other thing is economics. So where I live is just outside the New York City boundary. Real estate in my house has gone up 20%, 2-0, since Mandani announced. And that's all New York City selling their places, getting the hell out before he comes in. Because what he's going to do is put draconian taxation on everything, not just your income, but everything's going to double. Because he's going to boom, boom, boom. New York City tax on this. New York City tax on that. And corporations are going, can't do it. So they're going to go to Tennessee, Florida, Texas, the Carolinas, and the people who have homes in the five boroughs are moving to Connecticut, Long Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, wherever it may be.

2:00So that flow out, I estimate to be at a half million people in four years under Mandami. A half million will leave the New York City area.

2:19All right, joining me today is the host of No Spin News and legendary broadcaster Bill O 'Reilly. How do you feel about legendary broadcaster Bill O 'Reilly? One step from the grave. That's what that is. You know, icon, legendary. That means we know he's not going to be around much longer. We'll be nice to him. Also Long Island guy. My parents always see you at the beaches of Long Island at those restaurants on the water. So you're living the good life. Come on. Well, we work very hard, though. I've been in this business 50 years, 5-0. And I'm working as hard today as I've ever worked. So there's a lot of stuff going on.

2:59And for people that don't know this, I've mentioned this a couple of times when I've had you on the first television show I ever did. You were number one. You were the number one show in late... Well, you were the number one show in cable news history at the time. And you had some kid named Dave Rubin on about 15 years ago, literally the first TV appearance I ever made. So I always thank you for that. Let's dive in. How many books is this for you? Do you even know at this point how many books you've written? Well, we've had 20 number one bestsellers. Confronting Evil opened up number one on the New York Times list.

3:30That makes two zero, 20. And that's a world record that'll never be broken. It's not that I'm so great. It's just that people don't read nearly as much as they used to. The second guy who's behind me is Bob Woodward. He's had 14 nonfiction number ones. So I think we're safe at 20. Evil doing really, really well. Not a gentle book, not an Oprah recommendation book. You'll learn a hell of a lot if you read it, that's for sure. And people need to know that Evil is pretty much everywhere now. All right. Well, I want to spend most of the time talking about the book, and then we'll get to a couple of the issues of the day.

4:11I would say you're probably right that no one will beat the 20 because New York Times probably will not even exist as an institution in a couple of years from now. So just the math doesn't even work out for anyone to be, but Confronting Evil. I thought the title is great. It's clean, it's straightforward. And the book is about how societies basically fall to the wrong people, the wrong ideas. Kind of timely relative to, say, a New York City mayor who's a communist about to take over? It's timely because it came out September 9th. The next day I got up, Putin's lobbing missiles into Poland. Putin's on a cover with Mao Zedong and Hitler and Ayatollah.

4:52And then four hours later, Charlie Kirk's assassinated. And when I was doing interviews in support of the book, people going, that's just eerie. Your book would come out and the next day, Yeah. All of this stuff, all this hell would break loose. And it struck me hard because I'm not Nostradamus, but I did put this book on the board a year ago because our books take a year to research and write. because I saw the elevation of evil, not only in America, but all around the world. And that good people were looking away. They didn't want to get involved. Once that happens, and it happened in the 1930s, here they come.

5:40And very, very hard to stop evil once it gets established. So that actually was the next question I wanted to ask you. The good people looking away portion, so much of what is evil now seems to have burst forth and be fairly obvious to, I think, people on our side of the aisle. But what would you say, what is the marker for the people that just think it's going to pass by them? Is that just built into humanity that it's just like, ah, bad things are happening. I'll just bury my head in the sand and keep going. Or do you think there's something? Yeah. Yeah. The mentality is not going to happen to me.

6:14So I can build a wall, a bubble, and I can live in that, and then they're not going to get me. And why do I want to get involved with some messy thing down the block or some neighbor who's selling narcotics? But it's always going to get you. We can't avoid evil. No human being does. Everybody gets it. But you can mitigate it if you recognize it. And what I'm seeing in America is this. we have now a political movement, the progressive movement, the far left movement, that wants to destroy all traditions in America. They believe we're a racist country. And we're evil. The United States is evil because of slavery and because of Jim Crow and the white guys have all the power.

7:04You heard it. It goes on and on. So they said, you know, blow it all up. All right. This is Mandani. And then we'll start over again. We'll let all the criminals out because it's not their fault they punched some old lady in the mouth for drug money. Ah, no, no. Society made them do that. Not hated. So he can't be punishing them. All right. So then when you get kind of that misguided philosophy and you get it into the mass media, which is now easy to do because of this, that's what happened to Charlie Kirk. All right. You got a problem. So when you're good, people have to be more assertive. Right.

7:47Is the problem that the average good person, it just never happens until it's too late? You know, there's always a couple of people raising. Yeah, not everybody. but a lot of people are apathetic. There's two divisions of people who aren't. I put the level of evil in this world at 15 % of 15 % of people just born bad. That's Cain and Abel in Genesis. That story is there for a reason in the Bible. 15 % are evil. They're going to hurt you. And they're not going to feel bad about hurting you. The other 85, they got a decision to make. Am I going to be good or am I going to sit it out? Okay. More and more people are sitting it out for two reasons in the United States.

8:32Number one is apathy. They're just apathetic. It's like overwhelmed. I can't do anything about it. I got to do what I got to do. And so what if that happens? And the other is stupidity. And I use stupidity as a blanket word. You may not be stupid IQ wise, but if you don't seek knowledge, If you don't know anything, then you're going to get it right between the eyes. And public schools do not teach history or civics. They don't teach right or wrong at all. They're woke. They're pushing stuff that's insane. And these students are hearing all this garbage, and they're not hearing a counter to it.

9:17And I believe one of the reasons that I've been so successful as a best-selling nonfiction author on earth is because I am a counter to it. I will tell you the truth. I'm not an ideologue. I don't bother with parties. But I do bother with fact-finding and telling you, here's really what's true. You don't get that in schooling, so therefore these kids get out in the real world. They don't know anything. I'm Hannah. I've lost 75 pounds in 20 months with GLP Once. plus diet and exercise. On Rho, I've gone from struggling to run a mile to running farther every day. You can access FDA-approved GLP-1s online.

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10:28Or is it just sort of a consistent theme of sort of collectivism and centralized power? Or was there something that really jarred you as you guys were doing the research? Well, every book I've written, I've learned an enormous amount about the subject. But I've been around. I've been to 86 countries, covered four wars. I've seen evil up close. I know what it is. So I wasn't stunned in the general sense. But when you look at Mao Zedong and what he did to his own people, 20 million, many of whom starved to death because of him. And when I was invited to go to Beijing in May to address the Chinese government over there.

11:11And they invited me because of YouTube, because they watch me and they know that I have access to President Trump and that I am not a BSer. And they wanted to ask me questions. So I did fly over at my own expense. I brought my 21-year-old political science major son with me. And we spent three hours with the Politburo. But while I was in Beijing, there were pictures of Mao Zedong all over the place. Can you imagine if an American killed 20 million Americans? Right, right. I don't think his picture is going to be everywhere. But the Chinese people have no clue, no idea what happened. They have no access to the Internet, no access to accurate history.

11:55They know who the government hates, and they know what the government wants them to think. And they know if they don't think that, they can get in serious trouble fast. So where do you think we are? This is a slight sidebar then, but in that you were just there. Where do you think we're at with China at the moment? I think Daytona is possible. They would have invited me over there if there was a hard line drawn and they wanted conflict. They got 1.5 billion people to feed and they don't have 401ks, Dave. They're not going to Vegas. Okay. I mean, it's subsistence. They got to eat every day. They need our markets.

12:35Chinese is an export economy. They have to sell their hats and shirts here. So they need us. So they want to find some way to coexist. But I elevated it so you should be our partner. And I actually had a written thing. I gave them a partnership for peace and prosperity between China and the United States. And we are not going to change them. And Trump doesn't care about that anyway. But if we, the two most powerful nations, would join together, we could fight a lot of evil. I mean, Chinese have stopped the shenanigans, but I think they would given the right incentives. You talk in the book, you talk a bit about the moral struggle between good and evil.

13:22And I'm wondering in a time where we're all on this thing, where we're all being hit with Instagram, TikTok, all the crazy stuff that's coming through and the gender confusion and everything else. Where do you think Americans should be getting a moral, well, let's ask it this way. Do you think politicians have any responsibility to be giving a moral guidance or should that purely be coming from like a religious perspective? Well, I can't give moral guidance because most of them are immoral. So how can they do that? But they can certainly lay out standards of behavior. And that is very important in the public arena.

14:05Because look, in New York City, where I am, you can sell heroin and fentanyl on the street. Nobody's going to arrest you. And even if they do take you in, you'll get prosecuted. That's flat out wrong. You're selling poison to people. You're killing people, enslaving people, children are getting abused, and you're not going to do anything about it? Come on. That's the kind of stuff where politicians have to get loud. And most of them are cowards. And it's like the clerics. So I'm Catholic. I still go to church every Sunday. And when I was in Catholic school, there was a clear right and wrong. Okay?

14:47You do this, you go to heaven. You do this, it's going to be a little hot for you. God. Okay, that's God. So religion is dissipated to a stunning degree. And a lot of kids don't ever hear about it. They don't know what the Bible is. They don't know what standards of behavior. That is easily imparted by politicians and clerics. But a lot of them are just afraid to do it. So since you mentioned you are in New York City and Mondami, a guy who I think is replicating a lot of the ideas that some of the people you've written about in the book brought to fruition, how bad do you think New York City will actually get if he becomes mayor?

15:37Well, Mandami is doing the Fidel Castro playbook almost word for word. So you remember in the late 1950s, there was a dictator running Cuba named Batista. You saw The Godfather II, and that was pretty accurate. Batista's in pocket of the mafia organized crime. Horrible, horrible. And the Cuban people had nothing. Castro's charismatic guy. He's got the little beret. I'm saying, he says, look, I'm getting this guy out of here. We're going to have a fair economy. We're all going to be better. vote for me. And you really don't have to vote because we're going to take it over. We got more guns now.

16:11And that's what Castro did. Mandami, I think, has studied Castro's speeches because the same patterns are in play. Oh, I'm not a communist. Oh, no, no, no. I'm a democratic socialist. A bunch of crap. He would confiscate everything you have, Dave, like that if he could. I agree. Okay. All right. That's what he wants. He wants to confiscate private property. He wants the government to run everything and to give to the have nots or whatever it may be. OK, if he's elected, then two things happen right away. The police department dissolves because even now, many, many experienced officers are retiring, looking for other work.

16:58They're trying to get out. They're down here with us in Florida, Bill. That's where they've all come. There's a lot of people going to Florida. So the NYPD and my grandfather was one. It's 10 ,000 light. 10 ,000 under what they should be. You're going to have another 10 ,000 out of there. That is going to give license to every violent miscreant to do whatever they want to do, which they're pretty much doing now with the no bail law. And Bragg is the DA and he doesn't prosecute anything. so it's a free fire zone on crime the other thing is economics so um where i live is just outside the new york city boundary real estate in my hound has gone up 20 percent to zero since mandani announced and that's all new york city selling their places getting the hell out before he comes in because what he's going to do is put draconian taxation on everything, not just your income, but everything's going to double because he's going to boom, boom, boom, New York City tax on this, New York City tax on that.

18:17And corporations are going, can't do it. So they're going to go to Tennessee, Florida, Texas, the Carolinas, and the people who have homes in the five boroughs are We're moving to Connecticut, Long Island, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, wherever it may be. So that flow out, I estimate to be at a half million people in four years under Mandami. A half million will leave the New York City area. And take the tax money with them, which then will only further create... They're all affluent people. What do you think about the class warfare problem that it will also create? To me, this ends, this will end sort of like the end of Gangs of New York or the end of Dark Knight Rises, where why wouldn't the poor people of downtown be ransacking the Upper East Side and the Upper West Side and taking back what is, you know, rightfully theirs?

19:13Do you see that it will or would you predict that it would end in that type of violence? That would be irresponsible to predict that. with the diminished police presence, possible. But I wouldn't predict it. Social order is something that most people want. Even poor people want it. They don't want to have to go out and fear for their lives and their children can't even go to school.

19:46So if I had a bet, I'd say that would not happen. What will happen is a terrible rise in individual crime and a depravity, public depravity, homeless drug addicts running all over the place, you name it. That'll rise to record levels. So quality of life will just fall apart. What do you think? That's the scenario. What do you think Mamdami really wants? If we were really trying to steel man his arguments the best we could, what do you think he is actually trying to accomplish in New York City? Well, he wants power. And that's a commonality of all politicians. They want power. But he's only 33 years old.

20:32I wouldn't even put him in charge of a Burger King. Right, right. Because he's not. And the reason I'm not saying that for because he's a communist or whatever, some brilliant communist. But he doesn't have any record of being able to achieve anything. So you and I have achieved. Reuben O 'Reilly, we've achieved. All right, we've done stuff that's been successful. It's come out of our operation, our heads, and it's worked. What does Mandani does? He's been a marginal legislator in Albany. That's it. And his mom's rich. You could be selling hot dogs and be a marginal legislator. Right, right, right.

21:16It's not, you don't need a PhD. All you need is a car to show up. These are brilliant people up there in Albany. So let me ask you this. Let's leave New York for a moment because you've had some interesting comments. We've been playing a lot of clips of J.B. Pritzker lately, and I've been very critical of him, but I don't think it's quite reached the level of critical that you've been hitting this guy on. You, if I'm not mistaken, think he is worse than Newsom. Is that correct? Newsom, I basically think, is the devil incarnate. I don't know if you've ever heard me go off on him. So sell me why J.B.

21:51Pritzker is worse. And remember, I left California basically single-handedly because of that guy. Explain how he is worse. Well, Newsom is an opportunist and he sold his soul for power and he is a destructive force in California. But he's not totally irrational. You can have a conversation with Newsom. Pritzker is so invested in hatred for not only Trump, but anybody who opposes him that he's at a different level. Now, Newsom can get hateful, but Pritzker lives there. Now, Pritzker knows that he's failed across the board in Illinois, people leaving the state. Chicago is 4 ,000 dead, murdered under his regime, 4 ,000, 80 % African-Americans.

22:50Trump called him about a week ago, maybe 10 days ago, and said, look, I want you to call out to guard. the governor of Illinois, and let's work together. I'll send in the feds, the FBI, we'll come down, flood the zone in the South Side, where the murders, most of them are taking place. You use the state, I'll use the feds, we'll wipe it out. And that's what Trump did. And Fritzsche gave him the finger. Now remember, Fritzsche has not solved anything. He has allowed this carnage to take place for six years. The drug gangs control those neighborhoods. Totally. Control them. And now he's lashing out against Trump is Hitler, Trump is this, Trump is that, because Pritzker knows that it's his failure that has caused all of this.

23:47So I place him at another level above a Newsom, who is basically a guy who, you know, he wants to be president. He'll say whatever he has to say to get there. Is he malevolent? I can't make that call. Is Pritzker malevolent? Yes, I can make that call. What do you think a guy like Pritzker is thinking when he sees the numbers? I mean, you're right about the 4 ,000 in six years. It's 7 ,000 in 10 years. I mean, that's 700 dead people in Chicago. Yeah, 7 ,000. Yeah, it's just insane. I mean, when him and Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, sit down, do you think they, I mean, this is sort of an offshoot of the earlier question, but do you think they think they are doing a good job?

24:36What do they think is happening there? Well, they live in a world of denial. So anything that doesn't fit into their preconceived notions, people believe what they want to believe. And so they're never going to admit to themselves that they're failures ever. It's always going to be somebody else's fault or it doesn't it doesn't exist. No, it's not going on. It's like Oregon. That's what they do in Portland. Even though Portland and I worked there as an anchorman, they have a base, an Antifa base there. And Antifa is basically, they're different from the street criminals. They want to blow the whole thing up.

25:12Does it they want. Yeah. Portland is ground zero for them. That's where they live. Now, they don't have a building. You can't go into, like the Knights of Columbus. You can't go into the Antifa building much. All right? But they're there. Okay? And then you say to the governor of Oregon, And, hey, you got a big problem with these people. They're organized. And a lot of them are being paid to go out and store up anarchy. And the government goes, no, they're not. What are you doing? It's incredible. I know. They don't want you to see what you can see right before your eyes. Right. And there have been reporters, a guy named David Nigg, NG, did a big thing, unbelievably well-documented about how this whole thing, this Antifa thing works.

26:07But there's a governor go, no, no, it's not here. What are you going to do then? There's nothing you can do. I know you're on limited time. So let me just ask you one other, let's hit one other topic. Just the general state of media at the moment, as a guy that was the king of cable news, which is that what the commercial said? The commercial said the king of late? No. What is it? What'd they call you? Where were all the commercials? I guess King of Cable. Yeah. So that stuff. And you had it for years and years and years and years. And now you're doing the online thing, obviously very successfully.

26:42What do you make of the general state of our media, new media versus old media? Do you think old media has any value left? Are there holes in new media? What's your general take? Well, it's a generational thing. So if you're over 70 years old, you consume what they call linear television. So you have the clicker, you have the martini, eight o 'clock, you want to watch Jesse Waters or whoever you want to watch. That's what you do. All right, so it's 70 to death is watching network and cable in prime time. Below 70, very, very few. And the younger it goes, the fewer are watching. and that's not going to change.

27:27And the reason it's not going to change is because network and cable news is essentially dull. It's boring. When I did the factor and we were number one for 16, we had the highest ratings ever and nobody will ever top them. It's like the 20 number one bestsellers. I wanted people who were smart to oppose me on whatever the subject was. My orders where get the smartest person you can get to come up against me because it's fun to watch that. Yeah. Now, the toughest question is, tell me more. They bring in the people who agree with them, and by, you know, 20 minutes in, you're like this. And by the way, to that point, when you had me on, I ended up being on a couple times, but when you had me on the first, it was to debate you.

28:13It was something about Chick-fil-A going to Chicago or something, and, yeah, and we debated. I mean, and it got a little hostile, but it's all good. Well, we didn't like hostility, and a lot of that was my fault. I might get a little exuberant sometimes. As I get older, I moderated that a little bit. Only if the prompter is not working. Only if the prompter is not working. We've all seen the video. The prompter is not working. You've got a problem with me. But anyway, what I brought and what was in vogue for a while was really robust debate. Done. Replaced by nothing. And that is why all of the media, television media and the newspapers have declined.

29:03Because not only do they not seek opposing points of view, they're exclusionary. So I'm the best-selling nonfiction author in the world. I can't get on the CBS Sunday morning program. Yep. Even though I would deliver much higher ratings than they have, the books are selling millions of copies, but Jane Pauley won't put me on. Now, that's a form of censorship, and it's certainly not freedom of the press. They don't do it. Even a guy like Jon Stewart has changed a little bit. you know, me and him, legendary debates. Fabulous. You don't see him do that much anymore. Okay? And, you know, I'm giving him jazz about it.