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24:44And then it's just the clip that you just played. And he goes, so based on that, I'm going to do it. And then just drop the mic and walk away. But again, I just find it to me, I again, can never get over the fact that these guys are never accountable for anything. That being said, look, I'm with you guys. I don't want troops on the ground in Venezuela. I don't think, but, and Winston brought this up and you alluded to this, Dave, like the one thing that I've realized about Trump, and this was the case in Iran in particular, is that everybody said like, you can't do this. And even in Gaza, it was, you can't, we can't get involved.

25:14We can't get involved. We can't do this. And what does the president do? He creates this third option that nobody had on the table and says, dummies, I got it. I know how to do this. And we took out Iran's nuclear capabilities, no boots on the ground, no follow on force. And oh, by the way, there you go. And so what I'm hoping is the case in Venezuela is that he's picked up the phone. As we know, he called Murduro and said, hey, dude, you might want to get some binoculars. Look off your coast. Do you see that big carrier group? They can take you out. Then I got 15 ,000 guys willing to come in so we can do this the easy way or the hard way.

25:50I tell you what, I'm going to Venmo you some cash. you can get out of dodge and we'll get some new folks in there we'll set you up nice and block block us astan or whatever country you want to go to and give you some crypto and then you're good but either that or i'm coming in and after what the president has shown i get my guess is that maduro says hey let's get the family together grab the photo albums and we're out of here and that's the three-dimensional chest that nobody is sort of giving him credit for that i find fascinating through all these peace deals that he's got America First, in my opinion, is getting the job done in a way that puts our interests first without our money and our people.

26:30I mean, quite, quite literally. Go ahead, Winston. Sean, it's just that the attacks on the gangs in the Gulf is absolutely a threat to Maduro. That that is part of that play. It's part of the messaging. I mean, that's why it's even though it's not as big a deal as the other drug cartels in the rest of South America. He is. It's a big deal, but it's not as big a deal. but it's a message to Caracas. Right. And I would just say to conclude this, that there were all of these people that were saying, if we do anything with Iran, it's thermonuclear World War III. And guess what? Nobody had a shoelace that got untied during that thing.

27:05That's how pinpoint precision it was for all the reasons you just laid out, Sean. Let's talk about Rumble Premium for a second. And then we'll go to Chicago, where there's a racist guy talking about racism. Guys, if you want the best experience on Rumble, you need a Rumble Premium. It's ad-free, distraction-free, and built entirely around creators who actually stand for something. You'll get exclusive access to a whole lineup of voices that aren't afraid to think differently. Rumble Premium is how you support a platform that's genuinely built on free speech, not just talking about it. Go to rumble.com slash premium slash Rubin.

27:37That's rumble.com slash premium slash Rubin for 10 % off annually for Rumble Premium. Join the movement today. All right, Brandon Johnson of Chicago, who's, you know, it's hard. It's always hard to say who's the most racist of all of these Democrats who call us all racists. He might be the most racist. He got asked a question about the mass violence in Chicago, which as we will check the numbers this weekend on the killings in Chicago, as we do every week on the show. I'll get you some numbers in a second. But he got asked a question about the violence in Chicago. And of course, he called someone racist.

28:09What do you think that a Christmas market across the street from City Hall is more a threat to public safety than violent black teenagers running down State Street shooting people? All right. That a Christmas tree lighting shows your priorities. What do you say to those people, citizens, black, brown, business leaders, what do you say to those people? Got it. Got it. Yeah. That if they get a phone call from you or they get an interaction with you, they should avoid you. I'm not going to entertain. Thank you. Because the whole premise of everything that you bring up is not only disgusting and racist, it just, it does no facts to it.

28:46There is not a person in this city who spends more time working to ensure that we're protecting working people. There's not a person that spends more time thinking about it. In fact, our budget reflects that. My values reflect that. Winston, if what he just said there is true, that nobody's working harder than him, then he needs to step down. 17 people were shot in Chicago last weekend. Four of them were dead. That's kind of average numbers for Chicago. And of course, it's black on black crime, which is why the mainstream media won't talk about it. But that he has the gall to then call this guy racist.

29:18It's just it's just it's kind of perfect, I suppose. Yeah, it's classical rhetorical devices to deflect from his own failures there. And he's pointing it right back at the journalist. But you and I were at an event where we heard Larry Elder speak a couple of nights ago. And I was very touched by what he was saying. And particularly his honesty when he was saying, and this is really one of the great black spokespersons in America, because he's truthful. and he was talking about the problem of fatherlessness, which he saw as really the great problem in America, not addressed enough by either party.

29:56And he was unashamed to say it was a problem predominantly in the black community. And a lot of the black and black crime you might describe, fatherlessness plays a part in that. To go to the root of it, that is that. But the point here is that if you can't talk openly about problems, you can't solve them. It is not racist to identify these issues. There are different communities have different problems. We've got to be able to talk about them. Otherwise, we can't move forward. But it's a classic progressive sort of knee jerk that they have, that they just accuse everyone of being racist when it's just, it's perfectly normal.

30:34Well, Larry did also tell a story about getting out of an elevator without looking and literally kneeing a midget in the head and knocking her over. But we'll leave that for it. I'll have to bring him on to explain that further. Wait, Sean, before you jump in, let me just show you something else coming out of Chicago right now, and then you can take it away. Tommy Carter is charged with attempted murder after punching an elderly man yesterday morning at the Harlem stop in Forest Park. We're told the victim ended up on the tracks, nearly touching the third rail as a train was approaching the stop.

31:03Now, the conductor saw the attack and was able to stop the train in time. Police arrested Carter on the platform. We've learned he's had dozens of arrests dating back to 2001. Sean, you can go whichever way you want on this. We don't have to make this about race or anything else. The reason I played those clips is because it just doesn't have to be this way. I don't care about the race of the victim or the perpetrator or any of the rest of it. But Chicago has chosen to allow this level of criminality. It's something we don't do here in the free state of Florida. And they just yet they keep voting for these people.

31:32yeah i i want to i mean hey that's true it amazes me um how how this all breaks down right i mean you just saw the people of nashville um vote for a woman that hates nashville that's the one area in the tennessee seventh congressional district that afton bain actually did well on which is kind of ironic the one area she actually did well with the place that she said she hated but let me get back to thank god she didn't win the seat though oh my god but this is interesting that what you bring up, what Brandon Johnson was saying kind of ties back into what Winston was saying at the beginning on war crimes, which is this manipulation of language, right?

32:07So they don't like what they see. And they suddenly say, Pete Hegseth committed a war crime and Donald Trump's committing a war crime. They don't like you calling out. The gentleman asked a question, hey, why do you think it's okay on this Christmas market, but you don't think it's okay? Legitimate question. Any politician should definitely be able to handle that. Like, here's why I think this, or here's what you don't get right. But he immediately then pivots to racism. And this is the bigger problem that I think that we have on the right right now, which is they are fighting a war. And I get why the president's upset about affordability, but their use and manipulation of language is something that our side has to understand.

32:46I'm guilty of this, too. I dismiss it. I go, there's no way that anyone can think that that's racist or that guy's Hitler or a Nazi. Right. But I mean, like you saw this the other night, Katie Miller was having a discussion with Abby Phillip and she's like Katie Miller's saying to Abby Phillip with CNN you had on a guest you were on a podcast and watching a woman talk about my Jewish husband being a Nazi like that just and yet Abby Phillip was like well that's not really what happened the left's ability to manipulate language to their side is something that is frankly I in some ways I admire as a political operative and in some ways we need to understand that like when they say this stuff it actually matters.

33:27And we need to, as you do all the time, Dave, call it out because people, if left unchallenged, then people go, all I heard was Brandon Johnson called that guy a racist. So something must be wrong. He must be bad. It's interesting. Well, it's one of the reasons that I always say on my show, in some sense, I'm less interested in politics than ever. And I'm much more interested in narrative because everything seems to be driven by narrative these days, not really the reality of things. Winston, I think this will be a good one for you. I want to show I'll show you a video. There's a lot of news coming out of Minneapolis right now and a massive scandal breaking in Minnesota as it relates to money laundering and fraud related to Tim Walls and Ilhan Omar and a bunch of other people.

34:06But here is a Minneapolis police officer giving a press conference, and you might notice something curious.

34:35Now, as far as I can tell, that was either Somali or the Navi in Avatar. It sounded a little bit like their language. It's one or those two. Either way, I don't speak them. Winston, it seems like a problem to me that we would have police officers in America giving press conferences in other languages. Am I a racist? I mean, I thought this was a video coming out of England. I can't believe this is in the United States. That's why I wanted to ask you about it first. Well done. The United States of America. This is a big problem. By the way, in England, we have this problem now where a decent percentage of people can't speak English at all.

35:11That's because of our mass migration problem. And language is absolutely fundamental to a country. In our country, we were united by the first king of the English, King Alfred, in four ways. A common law, a common religion, a common history, but fundamentally a common language. Before him, we had different languages in the British Isles, and it was English that united us. And the language is the code. It is the code of culture. It is the code of history and law. All of those things in one. It's great to have different accents and different lingos and different slang and whatever. But as soon as you're literally speaking, I think I picked out ice.

35:50I think you did say ice. I picked out that one word. But then it's real trouble, particularly if that's official, you know, people working for the state in any way. And sorry. Well, just to be clear, this has nothing to do, in my opinion, with Somali or any other language. I'm here in Miami where there is a ton of Spanish being spoken all the time. And I do find at times, you know, if we take the kids to the playground and they're all the kids are speaking Spanish, well, then my kids likely aren't going to be friends with those kids and we're not going to be friends with the parents. That just then becomes something that, to your point, you just kind of lose that connectivity.

36:26But, Sean, what is going on in Minneapolis and Minnesota broadly? I mean, it just seems completely insane. Oh, it's more than insane. I mean, we go back to, again, the theme that started the show that I keep trying to tie everything back to is this narrative. The idea, I mean, look, why are they having this press conference, right? Because they stole a billion dollars of COVID funds from kids. This is literally what Democrats normally rally about children and their sake and we love COVID money. And suddenly the reason that press conference was having was happened was because the president of the United States said, hey, Tim Waltz, 400 employees from Tim Waltz's state.

37:07His people said that he knew that these people were scamming the system and he did nothing. You stole a billion dollars. And of those people, yes, they're all Somalis. So what are you going to do? Call out not Somalis? I mean, I don't understand. It's much worse. It's much worse. It's much worse than you're saying. Oh, good. Because that money didn't just go anywhere. It ended up in the hands of al-Qaeda affiliates in Somalia. You are such a racist. No, it literally did. It doesn't matter. You're still a racist. You're still a racist. To that point, watch this. Here is Trump on Jacob Frey, who is the mayor of Minneapolis, who's usually speaking in Somali.

37:49somehow beat the Somali candidate because it has something to do with aligning with Somali gang members. The whole thing is so bananas. But here's Trump on Frey. Thank you. The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frey, is saying that he's actually proud to have the largest Somali community in the country and his police chief is... Well, then he's a fool. Well, his police chief is also saying... I wouldn't be proud to have the largest Somali. Look at their nation. Look how bad their nation is. It's not even a nation. It's just people walking around killing each other. Look, these Somalians have taken billions of dollars out of our country.

38:24They've taken billions and billions of dollars. They have a representative, Ilhan Omar, who they say married her brother. That's a fraud. She tries to deny it now, but you can't really deny it because, you know, it just happened. She shouldn't be allowed to be a congresswoman, and I'm sure people are looking at that. And she should be thrown the hell out of our country. and most of those people, they have destroyed Minnesota. You know, he's still got it, even the way he says, even the way he says she married the brother. It's like, okay, but putting that aside, Winston, again, you are from across the pond.

39:01You are from a country that has had an integration problem that you just referenced and a language problem and cultural problem. And it seems to me that it's only in the last year that people in America are realizing we have it here. So if we are behind you in some sense, What would you warn us of and what should we do? Well, actually, I'll give you a good example which might highlight the problem, which is a good friend of mine, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is, in fact, Somali by origin. But she has also become one of the great defenders of the West living in the West. And what's crucial about Ayaan's story, it helps, of course, that she is now a Christian, although she was a prominent new atheist for some time, calling out Islam.

39:44But she has very much integrated. She has understood and proselytized about the great things about Western civilization, the great principles of the individual and all the things that have led to prosperity in this corner of the world, in this corner of time. And she has integrated. and she's part of she's in a western community and she is married to a scotsman she's now actually laden ferguson and uh by contrast so it's not actually about individual somalis and i make that point because i know our detractors will say claim we're being racist but it's not about individuals it's what happens is when you have any group doesn't matter if they are latinos in Miami and your neighbors, Dave, or they are Pakistani groups in Bradford in England or Somali groups in Minnesota.

40:41If they come en masse to a place, they have no incentive whatsoever to integrate. They will bring their cultures with them. They will form their own enclaves. They will keep their language. Somalis, for example, are the highest propensity of those who practice female genital mutilation in the UK. So we never had a problem of FGM in the UK. We now have one. It came with the Somalis to Britain. We have a problem of roaming street pedophile gangs that has come with the Pakistanis who have come, because that's a thing common to a certain region of Pakistan. It's not even common to all of Pakistan, just a common certain region.

41:23The point here is that if you bring in whole communities en masse, they will form their own enclaves, they will not integrate. And so trying to work out how to assimilate and integrate, that is key. IAN is the example that it can be done. By the way, the idea that there's a nuanced nickname or FMJ, that we've now gotten to the point where it's gone from being sort of disgusting and outrageous to having its own little brand and acronym is kind of scary. But you know what? You saw this issue. I visited Australia a few years back, and they've got the same problem with the Chinese, that they didn't come to assimilate and move into neighborhoods.

42:00They came in to take over blocks and areas and neighborhoods, right? And suddenly they just create their own church, their own stores, and they live by themselves and don't assimilate into the thing. America used to be talked about as this great melting pot. You came in and now you see this in all sorts of places. And I think Winston's right. He's giving us the warning because we see it obviously in Minnesota, but we're seeing this with other ethnic groups as well, where they all come in and form a little thing. And there's a difference. Again, I have no problem, like obviously, if you want to live close to neighbors and friends and all this, but they don't want to be part of the American fabric.

42:38And that's the difference is that you hear in one Omar and others talk, they despise it. And that's the difference of the example that Winston gave. You want to come here because you embrace the principles and the foundations of what makes America great, this idea of capitalism and, you know, entrepreneurism and, you know, the freedoms that we have, that's great. But if you want to come here to basically import your bad ways and sort of corrupt ways of your, then that's counterintuitive to what we should want. Right. And there's also multiple layers of it where certain communities are very insular and then do have sort of anti-American beliefs.

43:14You know, when I mentioned going to the playground with my kids and hearing Spanish, it's not because the Cubans are anti-America. They freaking love capitalism by and large. I just wish some more people would say, hey, I'm here in America the way my great grandparents who came here from Eastern Europe did. They dropped the language and they said, we are American now. We better learn English. And then my grandparents did, et cetera, et cetera. The other problem, of course, of all of this is that the Democrat Party in to its core now has become a pro illegal immigration party. Here is, she's a little scary to look at, frankly, Pramia Jayapal explaining that she wants DHS to be unable to detain illegals.

43:54Enough. Our Dignity for Detained Immigrants Act has a remarkable, unprecedented 123 original co-sponsors. Before we've even introduced it, 123 co-sponsors, and it overhauls the detention system. It drastically scales back the use of detention. It ensures that every single immigrant who is in detention has their human and civil rights protected. Our bill also phases out the use of private for profit detention centers. It prohibits the detention of children and families and makes it harder to detain primary caregivers and vulnerable people like pregnant women or seniors or workers who are whistleblowing and unscrupulous employers.

44:40All right. So again, it's partly what we've referenced a couple times here. They do this stuff with language. It's protecting rights of detained immigrants, not illegal immigrants. They never say illegal detained immigrants. I think we can kind of liken this to the story up top, which was I frankly don't care that much how we treat illegals. If you are caught here and illegal, you've got to go. I just and I think that's what most people fundamentally understand. You either have laws or you don't. I'm not saying go out of your way to abuse people. But the Democrat obsession always with the illegal at the expense of the legal is not right, nor just, nor decent, nor anything else.

45:20In my country, they use the word irregular immigration instead of illegal because they're too scared to use the word illegal. And you're absolutely right. These are criminals. If you've come to America illegally, you are a criminal. It's the same problem we've got in my country. And these guys want to do everything they can not to make it safer for those who are accidentally detained, who are there legally. No, they're trying to thwart the whole operation. That's what they're doing. If they thought that, they would say explicitly, actually, yes, we've got to remove criminal people, criminals who are here, people who have come here illegally.

45:57No, they are trying to thwart the whole operation. That's clear. And there's other clips of hers and others of Mahmoud Khalil. I'm not sure if you're going to show of him. Yeah, well, let's here. Why don't we why don't we jump to this clip? So then Mahmoud Khalil, who was a Columbia student here on a green card, who then took part partook in the Hamas rallies, which stopped Columbia kids from being able to go to school, put aside what they were chanting and everything else. He was on a green card, not a citizen leading chance. I have no problem saying for a terrorist organization that killed 47 Americans, he magically shows up.

46:31They are being tarnished in the media while they didn't do anything. No one should be detained for immigration enforcement. No one. There's no need for detention for immigration enforcement. As Congresswoman Jay Paul said, there are so many ways that we can enforce immigration process without detention. There's nothing called civil detention. Detention is detention. Sean, I'm not as professional as you are, so I'll just say it this way. Who the fuck does this guy think he is? You come here on a green card, you lead those rallies, and then you lecture us on whether we are allowed to kick out illegals or not?

47:11So sometimes I feel like you have to take it down to a very micro level, which is like just stop. Stop pretending it's our country and say it's your house. Walk home. Somebody's in your house. You don't go, I'm sorry. I know we didn't invite you, and I know you – Like, this is like, sometimes people forget this. This guy, to your point, comes into this country, breaks our laws, and then says, you can't do the following. I'm sorry. You can't do the following. This is our country, not yours. We actually have the most lax immigration laws in the developed world. I just, to me, this is outrageous.

47:48I was thinking as you were going through this clip, and I can't, I'm just not as quick as Winston here. But I'm thinking to myself, soon someone's going to rob a bank and saying, you cannot detain me for replenishing my account. It's now going to be instead of robbing a bank, it's replenishing my personal funds. Well, it's literally when they burn down Pep Boys or they break into a Best Buy for racial justice and then AOC is like, well, they're hungry. And it's like, no one's eating that plasma TV, as far as I know. We are getting to a point where it's insane. And I just I cannot believe the problem is, is that I keep reminding myself, do not forget that if you you can't just say it's insane, you need to expose it because that's their goal is to normalize it.

48:30We've gone from, remember, it is the law in the United States. If you're in this country, U.S. code says you are an illegal alien. That's the law. That's not my word. That's not your word. That's not Winston's world. But you heard what he just said. What they've done in England has now made it like you are a temporary friend. Like they will change this if we don't actually pay attention. Let's jump over to New Orleans where a city council member was asked whether ICE should help get rid of pedophiles. You'd think that's a, well. Dave, please don't use that word anymore. Oh, sorry. Those are people that have close relationships with minors.

49:07Go. You heard the DHS spokesperson say that they're looking to target criminals like pedophiles. Do you see the upside in getting people like that off the streets? We already have NOPD here as well as Troop NOLA, which are the state troopers. So our NOPD is doing their job in getting criminals off the streets. In fact, we're at the lowest amount of crime since the 1970s because of the efforts of our NAPD assisted by the state police. And so I don't think we need additional law enforcement here in order to round up people. Guys, I've really been trying to give the devil his due on the show here, and I try to give people the money.

49:48It's not the devil anymore. It's a person who seeks to undermine God. Yeah, thank you. Please do not use words like that in my presence again. You're right, you're right. Well, I will take that lady's word for it. I'm just gonna pretend she's telling the truth here that their crime is pretty far down. Let's accept that, if she is right about that. That still seems different to me than saying, but we could still use some help, maybe getting rid of the pedophiles, or dealing with the illegals, because she's a Democrat, so they're obviously not gonna coordinate with ICE like we are doing here in Florida, where we're basically booting everybody.

50:23But, Winston, I guess none of this should surprise me. I mean, I don't know what's going on here. This is just beyond parody. It's not. I mean, that's the scary part. It's not. It's not. It's worse than that. All right. Well, then, since we're beyond parody, we will end with this clip all the way back to 2009, a young Barack Obama when he wasn't insane. This is not going to be a free ride. It's not going to be some instant amnesty. what's going to happen is you are going to pay a significant fine you are going to learn english you are going to you are going to go to the back of the line so that you don't get ahead of somebody who was in mexico city applying legally wow sean who is that racist guy that sounds an awful lot like donald trump right now you're going to go to the back of the line you're going to pay a fine and don't cheat the system, blah, blah, blah.

51:22You can keep your doctor. Wait, that's a different thing. Same guy, though, I think. You can keep your plan, your doctor. This won't cost more money. It's funny because I believe that he's tethered to the other guy that says that we should go strike boats, right? Isn't that the Obama? Yeah. Maybe that's why people say, oh, Biden, because they both kind of are full of it. Look, again, I go back to what I said earlier. This is insane. These guys, there's no accountability. if a Republican merely, and that's why I said to you jokingly, but in all seriousness, if I were Trump, I'd get in the Oval Office and say, tonight, I want to address a really serious issue.

51:57Here's Joe Biden. And let that clip play. And then say, oh, by the way, while we're here, I want to talk to you about illegal immigration, since I'm talking about Venezuela and drug dealers. And now I'd like to introduce somebody else, Barack Obama. And just play the clip, because this is like, it's crazy how we literally are at a point where merely saving the position of the Democrats is racist, xenophobic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, hit Nazi-esque. The far right Republican of 25 is a moderate Democrat of 1991. It's wild. Winston, bring us on. But as conservatives, though, both of you, I mean, when you see where the Democrats are today, in a way, given how loony it's become, doesn't it not give you some hope?

52:40Because you would think that common sense people will see how ludicrous it's become and it will give support to whoever runs for the republicans not so like i look at what happened with the dei stuff right and it went and finally like even to you know the last couple days you've seen some corporations continue to i don't know maybe it's like they jumped the shark so bad so far that people go whoa but the problem is is that i maybe you're right but i get worried the other way winston And then I'm going like, hey, so far, nobody's pushing back. We are literally just, we elected a guy in Virginia where I live that wants to kill his political opponents in 51 % of the states.

53:21What's the big deal? He's only going to be attorney general. And then you elect a guy in New York City. I mean, so like, I think, I hope, but right now I just, I look at the facts on the ground and go, I'm not excited. So the people actually supporting these politicians. So it's actually, the politicians are very much the politicians that America deserves right now. Is that what he sort of suggests? Yeah, I don't know that they deserve it, but they're being bamboozled. There's definitely a Batman line about this. I always ask on Fridays what our guests are doing for the weekend. Winston, I know what you're doing.

53:53You're having dinner right here at the Rubin Report compound. Sean, you're a little far. You're a little far over there in Virginia. You're welcome here anytime, but what will you be doing? What does Sean Spicer do on the weekend? uh so this weekend there uh next weekend is army navy since i'm not going to be with you i'll be out there full go full navy on this uh we've got a lot of kids activities that that's that's we've got a big gala and the kids like i've learned the older you get and dave you're you're you're in that mode but like the older the kids get you start to realize like weekends are just like you get you don't have to dress up as much but you're busier you're basically going to a soccer game i think that's what you just said soccer and gymnastics probably yeah and a basketball and a gala and then you know and then church but it's like i'm like when is monday come on let's go it was great seeing you guys uh for everyone watching it's friday no post game show we'll be back on monday have a good weekend everybody take care