In short
Dave Rubin interviews Tommy Robinson about whether the UK has “passed the point of no return,” focusing on immigration, Islam, crime/grooming gangs, free speech, and recent UK politics (including a Green Party by-election win).
Guest backgrounds
Tommy Robinson is a British activist from Luton (born 1982). He says he grew up in a town that shifted from one mosque to 45, and claims he witnessed hostility in school and later “grooming gangs” involving Pakistani men. He says he founded the English Defence League and has faced repeated state actions, including multiple prison sentences and long solitary confinement.
Key claims
Robinson argues UK institutions and politicians (including Keir Starmer) covered up grooming-gang crimes; that Labour imported a religious “vote bank” via mass immigration; that Green Party gains reflect Muslim voting aligned with Gaza/Palestine; and that free speech is being suppressed (e.g., social-media arrests, bans on speakers). He also asserts rape/grooming conviction statistics are disproportionately linked to Muslim men and cites Quran verses as underlying causes.
Notable examples
Luton; Rotherham (claimed 1,400 child rapes); Telford (claimed 1,000 victims, 200 perpetrators); a Green Party by-election in Gorton and Denton (Hannah Spector win); alleged bans on Eva Vlaardingerbroek; Oxford free-speech debate; comparisons to Sweden/Paris/Germany and border-closure examples like Hungary/Poland.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTommy Robinson's Background
0:00 to 1:04
Tommy shares his background and experiences growing up in Luton.
“I've tried a lot of seafood over the years, guys, and truly it's been hit or miss.”
Tommy Robinson's Background
2:14 to 4:50
Tommy shares his background and experiences growing up in Luton.
“But that was when my show just started taking off.”
The Grooming Gangs Scandal
4:50 to 6:05
Tommy discusses the grooming gangs and the societal silence around them.
“Every institution that was supposed to protect the children turned a blind eye, allowed a generation of Britain's daughters to be raped in every town and city because they were too scared to be called racist.”
Government and Media Response
6:05 to 7:30
An exploration of the government and media's reaction to the grooming gangs.
“Behind closed doors and corridors of power, they had to do something.”
Activism and Legal Battles
7:30 to 9:24
Tommy recounts his activism and struggles with the law.
“And it was called Ban the Loot and Taliban.”
Changing Demographics and Political Landscape
9:24 to 10:50
Discussion on demographic shifts and their impact on politics in the UK.
“It took three weeks before my first dawn raid by the police.”
The Rise of the Green Party
10:50 to 14:00
Tommy analyzes the Green Party's emergence and its implications.
“which is a 17-year period, this is without any immigration, just the birth rate, is going to increase by 70 to 77%.”
The Changing Political Landscape in the UK
14:00 to 19:50
Discusses the political dynamics in the UK, focusing on Labour, the Green Party, and voter disillusionment.
“But when you look at that, so they import them in, the Green Party, but the big fallout with Labour.”
Cultural Shifts and Immigration Concerns
21:14 to 28:00
Explores the impact of immigration on British culture and security, discussing specific crime statistics.
“So I went to Harrods in, you know, that's like prime London real estate.”
The Reality of Terrorism in the UK
28:00 to 37:36
Explore the deep-seated issues of terrorism and crime in the UK and its impact on society.
“Now what that means is the Jews are first, then the Christians.”
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Current Political Climate and Free Speech
38:35 to 42:00
Discussion on the political atmosphere regarding free speech and immigration in the UK.
“Built from last quarter's data and the competitive landscape.”
Concerns About Free Speech in the UK
42:00 to 43:59
Discussion on the limitations of free speech in the UK and the implications for citizens.
“Well, I'll be with her in Hungary next month.”
The Impact of Arrests and Legal Actions
44:00 to 46:18
Insight into personal experiences with arrests and the legal system in the UK.
“There's six Muslims in jail doing 30 years.”
The Role of Media and Public Perception
46:19 to 48:23
Examination of how media narratives shape public perception and personal experiences.
“The way they went and rounded everyone up so publicly, locked them up, treated them like shit, gave them huge sentences.”
Challenges in Reporting Truth
48:24 to 50:24
Discussion on the challenges faced when attempting to report the truth and the consequences of doing so.
“And I said that he attacks English girls.”
Building a Movement for Change
50:25 to 53:11
Strategies and actions taken to build a movement for cultural change in Britain.
“I've got a grenade because this shows the truth.”
Tommy's Journey and Activism
56:14 to 59:58
Tommy Robinson shares his experiences and the challenges he's faced.
“Oh, agents, where would we be without you?”
Cultural Revolution and Warning Signs
59:58 to 1:10:02
Discussion on the cultural shifts in Britain and the implications for the US.
“i walked out of jail i knew whatever i say here now and i was felt terrible and i put i put on a strong face, but I felt a mess.”
A Warning for America
1:10:02 to 1:10:42
Tommy Robinson shares his concerns and insights on the political situation in America.
“And these sorts of conversations, America, get ready.”
Reflections on Change
1:10:42 to 1:11:10
Discussion on the changes over the past decade and the ongoing challenges ahead.
“So, Tommy, if I ever forget why I do this show, you just fully reminded me.”
Transcript
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1:51All right, guys, this is The Rubin Report. I'm Dave Rubin. It is February 27th, 2026. We are live all over the place as always. And joining me today in studio is a British guy who is always in trouble one way or another. Tommy Robinson. It's a pleasure to be. It's good to see you. I am going to show a picture right now that is either going to make us feel real old or real young, because we last did this. I cannot believe this. That is February 6th, 2016. We did this 10 years ago. My show was just kind of taken off. All right, get rid of that image. We've glowed up. I think we've aged a lot going.
2:35We're doing all right, man. We really are doing okay. But that was when my show just started taking off. And I was leaving the left, and I had had a couple controversial people on, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Douglas Murray. But when I put you on, I got more hate than I had ever experienced. And even to this day, 10 years later, might be the most hate I ever got from one episode. So here we are 10 years later. It took us 10 years. 10 years later, proven right about everything we said. Well, you had been proven right about basically everything. Back then, the media narrative around you was you were this sort of far-right maniac, racist, all the usual stuff.
3:16But for people that don't know anything about you, can you give me like the two or three minute bio on who you are? And then we're going to dive into clips and history and the politics of your country, which sadly we seem to be following the same way on these shores and everything else. So just a little bio for the people that don't know. So your life experiences shape who you are and your worldview. I was born in a town called Luton, which is 30 miles north of London. When I was born in 1982, we had one mosque. We now have 45. So I've witnessed, and Luton's one of the most diverse towns in Europe.
3:47So I've grown up with most people who are sons of immigrants. My mother was an Irish immigrant. Most of my friends, St. Lucian, Bulgarian, Italian, Jamaican. So I saw a melting pot of people come together, and then I understood how it works and how it doesn't work. and it basically divided itself through religious lines. That was my town. We had the Muslim playground and the non-Muslim playground. I learned very quickly the hostility and the aggression from the Islamic community. There was something so different about them. And I'll put it down to being Pakistani. I didn't know much about Islam.
4:15That come later on in life. But the Pakistani community was so different. You have trouble with one. You've declared war with the whole tribe. But I've never seen anything like it. Then I saw the... And you were noticing this as a kid or this is when you were... As a child at school. As a child at school, I just saw it and I experienced it. and it was something very different. And then I experienced the abuse of our girls. My cousin was a victim of what we now call grooming gangs, which are rape jihad. It's groups of Muslim men in every town and city who are kidnapping, torturing, and raping young girls.
4:43Now, the amazing thing about this, or the incredible thing about this, is the police knew, the council knew, there was a conspiracy of silence by political leaders, religious leaders, all of them. Every institution that was supposed to protect the children turned a blind eye, allowed a generation of Britain's daughters to be raped in every town and city because they were too scared to be called racist. And Keir Starmer, your current prime minister, hopefully not prime minister for much longer, he had something to do with the cover-up. Yeah, he was in charge. This is well before he was prime minister.
5:09He was in charge of the Crown Prosecutors' Hermes who made decisions not to prosecute any of these gangs. They actually viewed the children, some of them as young as 10 and 11, as though they were willing participants in child prostitution. That's what they said. But they said that in order to not upset their block vote because the Labour Party have imported, and this is why there was such a furor against me. This is why you received so much hate. This is why I faced a relentless attack by the government and the British state from the day I opened my mouth. Because when I started opening my mouth about these crimes, remember that no one was prosecuted for these crimes.
5:42If you can draw a graph, the graph goes like this. It's straight. I form an organisation called the English Defence League, which was young English men coming together and we were hitting the streets in our thousands and demanding action. We made sure they couldn't keep it silent. We hit every town and city that had an Islamic community demanding that they stop treating our daughters like Halaumi. So as we've done this, then a year later, the graph goes straight spiral where they had to start tackling these gangs. Behind closed doors and corridors of power, they had to do something. They knew it.
6:11They'd got away of it for 30 to 40 years that allowed it to happen. So we formed an organisation. And when I formed that organisation, remember, every police force, every council, has let this happen. So there'll be paper trials, there'll be history that shows their conspiracy. So, of course, when I start talking about it, all the people who have risen up in power, I'll give you an example. Rotherham was one of the major towns that the world knows about. There was 1 ,400 children raped, and that has a 3.7 % Muslim population. But the man in charge of the police force at that time who allowed it to happen is now in charge of counter-terrorism.
6:44So Labour councillors who went to court and testified later on in defence of the Muslim rapists, they've now risen up through the Labour Party. so all the people including keir starmer okay he's now he's now in charge of the government how can they have an independent inquiry why would they want an independent inquiry when it's going to show their dirty hands were you shocked that just by bringing this up you know a decade plus ago that the way the media treated you i know i know that doesn't shock anybody now and we're all used to all of that and the way they treat trump and the rest of us but when you first started saying hey i'm just here to defend our young girls against rapists did you think for a moment that the media was going to be with you and try to expose this stuff?
7:25When I started my first protest in 2004, where I got people together, I was a young 20, 20 years old. And it was called Ban the Loot and Taliban. And a Islamic radical jihadist group, which are now prescribed as terrorists, 60 % of the British Muslims in jail for terrorism are ex-members of this group. So like His But To Here, all these terrorist organizations, they're allowed to grow and the government were doing nothing. So they're in my town. I looked up this organization, their head office, Omar Bakri, Abu Hamza, the head office was on Biscuit Road in Luton, and they were recruiting in our town centre to send people to fight against our forces abroad.
7:59And it wasn't like they were openly promoting jihad, openly promoting hatred. So I organised a demo, I got about 200 young men, and we hit the town one Saturday. Now, I made a leaflet and I handed the leaflets out. And in the leaflet, this is 2004, I said, they're targeting our daughters, they're using drugs as a weapon against us, they're getting them hooked on drugs, and they're prostituting them in paedophilic gangs. that's now what we know of grooming yeah this was 22 years ago and i named the drug gangs because we there's two different things there's a religious fanatics and then there's a street level criminals now they work together they work hand in hand i named the drug gangs the response to that i faced a attack my house got smashed up all of the pack all of the pakistani gangs all of them wanted to get me so fast forward to 2009 when i we had a soldiers homecoming parade in luton the islamic community and groups of them attacked the soldiers i wanted to make a stand but i knew what comes with it.
8:49I expected the threats of violence. I expected all the death threats. What I wasn't ready for was the full weight of the British state. I thought I lived in a free country. I thought we had free speech. I very quickly realised the country I thought I lived in is not the country that I live in. And once I started exercising my speech, I realised, and this is, I've accepted now, we live in a totalitarian state and the totalitarian state has weapons and tentacles of the totalitarian state, the media, the judiciary. So once I started talking about this, all of their weapons they had come at me. And from that point, Dave, this is an incredible...
9:23That was 2009. I started talking on the streets. It took three weeks before my first dawn raid by the police. And from that point until right now, through that whole 16-year period, I've not had one single moment where I've not been away in prison in that entire time. How much time have you spent in prison? I've spent two years of solitary confinement. I've had five, six prison sentences. I had 13 months for reporting outside a court case in Leeds. I had another 10 months. I had 18 months recently for making a documentary. But the problem they've got now, so we rizz to fame. I obviously had the street protest movement.
9:58We're on the streets. 2016, 2017, I realised that back then, this was before social media, it was before the rise of these sorts of discussions. So you had to get on the streets back then. You had to get on the streets. And then I realised that this is it. this is the power and what i need to do and it's not like i've got crystal ball but every every interview i gave back then you can go and find the interviews they've aged incredibly well and it's not because i had a crystal ball it's because i've lived it i've seen it i've seen the way the police to come to them i've seen the two-tier policing i've seen the way the government just surrendered to them and there's a reason they surrendered to them so my local labor council again i'll just bring things back to my life experience 2013 i'm still involved in this street protest movement and I look at my local council and I look at the demographic projected growth forecast for the demographics in the town.
10:46The Pakistani and Bangladeshi community by 2030, which is a 17-year period, this is without any immigration, just the birth rate, is going to increase by 70 to 77%. Now, that's what that's going to do. The white and black community, 1.2 to 1.4. So the local council, when I fall back, well, that's why we're irrelevant now. They don't care about us. We don't keep them power. Now, and then they have a leader of the Council of Mosques. So the leader of the Council of Mosques sits down with the Labour Party. They'll sit down with your Democratic Party. They'll sit down with the Republicans. And they'll offer them, do you want our vote?
11:19We'll swing this seat. And they can swing so many seats now. We'll get on to it, but they've just done it last night. So they've done it last night, which we'll get to in just a second. I'm going to have my guys put the link to our interview from 10 years ago below, because I never watched my old interviews, but I actually watched it last night. What was we talking about? Well, it was basically this. but it was unformed still. Right. You were just beginning to figure out what was going on in some sense, or at least the public side of it. And everything that you said in the hour basically became true.
11:48So now it makes a hell of a lot of sense that you've paid a certain price and I got a lot of hate and all that stuff. So let's connect this now to what's happening quite literally yesterday in your country. It's from the New York Times. Green Party defeats Labour in UK special election in blow to Starmer. The result marks the first time the Greens have won a British parliamentary by-election and signals the frustration of left-leaning voters with Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Hannah Spector, 34, a plumber by trade and a member of the area's local council, won the seat in a district called Gorton and Denton, southeast of Manchester, with about 15 ,000 votes or 41 % of the vote.
12:22She will become the Green Party's fifth lawmaker in the British Parliament. So let me just quickly throw to a video of her dancing with the Green Party's deputy leader, and then we can unpack this. The Green Party is where the party's at. And look at it. Vote Hannah Spencer! Vote Hannah Spencer! Vote Hannah Spencer! You'll not be silent. We will raise the voice of Gaza. We will raise the voice of Palestine. Allah! Allah!
12:57Okay, so for people playing at home, obviously the spiced in part was not yesterday. That's just from a couple months ago. and now he's going to be a big member of the Green Party. She's dancing now while not wearing a hijab. That probably won't last very long. But can you explain, people I think in America think, oh, the Labour Party is kind of the radical Democrat Party here. But now you guys have injected a new situation with this Green Party. Well, do you really think that man screaming at the Black Party is because of the hell about the environment? Is that what you... Are you telling me that guy doesn't like gays?
13:27Come on now, come on. So I'll tell you what's happened. So basically the Labour Party were important and the governments were importing through mass open border immigration, the Pakistani communities, the Muslim communities, because they organized themselves like a military fashion. They were replacing, when you, the working class, that was the background I'm from, when we want to become successful, you move up and then you become a conservative. Once you start making money and you understand, a lot of them become conservative. And I guess the Labour Party felt like they were being betrayed, I guess, because then they just wanted to import a loyal vote bank.
13:57And that's what's been happening. And that's what's been happening in America over the recent years. But when you look at that, so they import them in, the Green Party, but the big fallout with Labour. Labour didn't hate the Jews enough. So in the last, our whole election last time was about Gaza. Now, considering we've had an entire generation of British girls getting raped, there wasn't one mention of that. Our entire election was about Gaza. And that's because Labour didn't hate the Jews enough, didn't hate Israel enough. So then what happened is you had independence. Even though there's an extreme amount of hatred.
14:26Even though they hate them. Like that's basically the party platform and Corbyn who's out. but like this is what they've been doing for 10 years. Yeah, but not enough. Yeah. Not enough. So then you had independence stand and we had five pro-Hamas independent people elected to parliament. So Labour have now lost and what they were bringing in, as you've seen there, now they've switched over to the Green Party because they don't care what party name they use and literally just vote in by religious lines, which is what this was, which is the future. It's our future. And as their demographic increases, they become more powerful.
14:56Now, why is that important? If you look at, just to bring it back to your American audience, Look at what's happened in New York, but look at Minnesota. Now, Somalians have come from the most hottest place in the world, and they're in one of the most coldest in America. Why? Do you think they chose to go there? Does anyone think they thought, you know, we'll just go to this? They were put there. They're imported in. It's all planned, and they're placing them in places strategically for the voting bank, because they know their community will go like this and go like this and go like this. And when they do, they vote for who they're told to vote for.
15:26You don't. Did you hear the voting rates of this? So in this election here, 48 % was the... So 52 % of people didn't vote. Of course. They won by 16 ,000 votes. There were 44 ,000 people that didn't vote. We don't vote. I don't know anyone that had voted because the British working class... Keir Starmer was elected off 9 million votes. 20 million people didn't vote. They're disillusioned. They don't care about politics. What we're trying to do, I can get onto our goals and our mission. We're trying to captivate, electrify and give those 20 million people back their identity and bring them in through identity and culture.
16:05I think 86 million Americans didn't vote. Now, you might think that doesn't matter. It does when 90 % of the Muslim community vote because that's why they get the deals. That's why they're being surrendered to. That's why. And in your swing states in the United States, I looked at the immigration rates for asylum seekers, for migrants that were being brought in. It's 700 % increase. What they were trying to do, which you will lose your country forever. They were trying to make sure there's no swing states. They're flooding them and flooding them and flooding them. So you would have, yeah. But this is the future.
16:36So I want to show you an image that I briefly mentioned right before we went to the live stream. But can you guys pull up? It's from less than a year ago when I spoke at Oxford University. And it was interesting. It was a debate on free speech. I'm very proud to say that we did win our Oxford debate. I want to point out the girl sitting in the back in the traditional Muslim garb, because I had dinner with the entire group right beforehand. And she, I don't think she knew who I was or my history or anything. And we're sitting having dinner. We actually talked about basketball for most of the time.
17:03And I was like, oh, this girl's pretty cool and whatever. And then somehow it got into politics. And what she told me was that she was a second generation Pakistani and that all of her family, her parents from Pakistan, aunts and uncles, grandparents, all of the nieces, nephews, they all only vote to free Gaza. And I thought, man, for some reason, somehow sitting just inches away from her, it struck me how deeply screwed your country is. Putting aside what anyone's feelings are about Gaza or anything else, that they are coming here with an issue that has nothing to do with Britain making your country better or anything else.
17:42And now you guys have imported untold amount of them. And so have you. So have you, America. Not as bad. We're slow-earning it, but that's why I felt it was important. Yeah, it's important because if you look at the importation, it's Islam first, Islam second, Islam third. They'll tell you. Shabina Mahmood, who's going to be our next prime minister in charge of our country, she said, all that matters to me is Islam. Not democracy, not freedom, not the Republican Party, not Democrat Party, it's Islam. It's the same here. It's Islam. So they will stand with their Muslim brothers as part of the Umar.
18:17That's what this is about. So they don't care about anything else other than that. So that's what they're voting on. The Green Party won because they got the Muslim vote. And they got the Muslim vote because they hate the Jews and they hate Israel. And they'll speak publicly about that. And that's what the politics have come about. But then when you have a political party, so even Nigel Farge, Nigel Farge was meant to be the saviour. Nigel Farge's comments, not mine, that by 2050, the Islamic community is that strong in the UK. We cannot alienate Islam. Now, the reason a generation of our daughters were raped was because no one wanted to criticise or deal with it because they were scared of being called racist and scared of upsetting the Islamic community, which would mean alienating Islam.
18:52If you're not going to alienate Islam, well, you're going to stand with Palestine. You're going to stand with the Iranian regime. If you don't want to alienate Islam, you're going to surrender. So it's like Nigel's pulling up the white flag and planning for 2050 already. Is he still the best shot you've got? No, no. We have Rupert Lowe now. We have a new party. Rupert Lowe was kicked out, restored Britain. Rupert Lowe was kicked out of Nigel's party for wanting to speak about grooming gangs and for saying mass deportations. Nigel's being forced on lots of issues. Nigel's words, again, that I don't believe in mass deportations, when he was mentioning the demographic change.
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21:40And that's what's happening. That's what we're seeing happen in every major city. Not just London. Every single... My town, English or a minority. This is every major city. And this is... And what problem's coming at? We're not just talking about culture. So if you look, you know if we would have had a Trump-style ban? You know 2016, you put in a ban. And this is where... Stop worrying about offending people's feelings, right? If we would have had a Trump-style ban, Ariana Grande concert where 26 people were blown up and murdered would not have happened. just for that simple rule of being brave and saying, no, we don't want people from that country or this country.
22:12We don't share. Our security agencies don't work together. It's a danger. Now, a government's job, first and foremost, any leadership in your country is to protect your citizens. It's not to protect Libyans or Afghanis or Pakistanis or Somalis. It's protect you. And our country have miserably failed. Do you know, Muslim men make up 3 % of the British population, 90 % of the convictions for grooming, rape of young children in groups. is Muslim men. 30 % of the men are called Mohammed. Now, if you want to look at Sweden, 63 % of the rapes are Muslim men, 10 % population. In Paris, 77 % of the rapes are from foreign nationals, Muslim men.
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22:49Yeah, 77%. If you look at Germany, now this is where, when you said we haven't had as much of a problem, America, you don't get it. The seed has been planted. It's going to grow. You had Hispanic immigration, Mexican immigration, and I know there were problems coming from that, But Joe Biden, they organized an influx of upwards of 8 million people, Pakistanis, Eritreans, Somalis, Afghanis, Syrians. You don't understand what's coming. Now, say you let in 10 million, America. Germany let in a million, yeah? Out of that million, from 2017, when the floodgates opened the year before, 2017 to 2022, rapes went up 45%.
23:30Last year alone, 11 % of the rapes in Germany were by Syrian nationals. That means 11 % of those rapes didn't have to happen. And if ICE aren't successful, if ICE, you may not, it doesn't look pretty. Some things don't look pretty. I know people got shot. 47 people died in ICE custody under Barack Obama. There were no protests or riots. They weaponize everything. So I know it doesn't look good, but neither does the rape of a generation of your mothers and daughters. Neither does all the murders that we're facing day in, day out. our whole country's being raped and pillaged. The whole of Europe is.
24:02And it doesn't have to happen. You can stop it. America, you can stop it. But you need brave leadership. You need to just call a spade a spade. And unfortunately, in Britain and in Europe, no one was willing to. We've moved somewhere now. We're getting somewhere now. But the problem is that big and that bad, even with regards to the crimes, the rape statistics and the rape figures across your... You know, in 2003, we had 8 ,800 rapes. In 2023, we had 88 ,000. Wow. Now, you take those figures. Do you know how many Hungary had last year in the year? Well, very few, obviously. 750. They closed their borders.
24:40750. Do you know the two safest places in Europe? Do you know what the European Union, which is a totalitarian idea, do you know what they're doing to Hungary? I think it's a million pounds a day. It's a million a day. They pay 365 million euros a year just to keep their borders closed. Because they won't allow the influx of forced, imported, organized flooding of their nation. And the two safest places are Poland and Hungary. And we're supposed to... Diversity is your strength. Well, it's not your strength when all our women are being raped. And there's a big difference as well between successful immigration.
25:13Because there's a big call now and things are swinging and the public are awake to these problems. And some communities come, they integrate and they assimilate and they're brilliant. But the Islamic community, do you know when I realised this? I thought it was always Pakistani problems. I'd seen all the problems. I started an organisation. I was sat in solitary confinement during 22 weeks, 2011, for my work, for the different things I was doing. And I sat there and someone sent me in a Quran. And I'd challenge any of you to do this. Get the Quran, open it up, and every time you find a verse that speaks derogatory about Christians or Jews, or tells you not to be friends with Christians or Jews, just write the verse down.
25:52yeah but i sat there and i wrote the verse number and i had pages and pages and pages and then it all just like a jigsaw my whole life everything i'd seen in my life just fell into place i just went oh my god from four years old this is in their head so if you think of it like this if you as a white family you bring your children up from the age of four you do not be friends with black people you hate black people black people will burn in hell black people are like cow these are all verses that are in the quran black people you bring them up like that then that turns into hostility, anger and aggression.
26:24And we've experienced that. That's what we're on the end of. And it comes from that book. And that's the problem, which no one wants to have a discussion about. As I said, 90 % of convictions, Muslim men. Why? Why is it 90 % of convictions are Muslim men? And then you start understanding there's four verses in the Quran that explicitly say that Muslims are allowed to take non-Muslim women as sexual slaves. They're totally allowed to. In fact, one of the verses actually say they're blameless. They're blameless. Muhammad did it. Boko Haram. You know Boko Haram. This is when you start piecing it all together.
26:53I'm looking at the crimes. I see Boko Haram. They kidnapped 200 Nigerians. I see the leader of Boko Haram standing on TV saying, Mohammed commanded us to do this. If you look at what ISIS did with the Yazidis in every conflict, but this isn't, we're not talking about the Middle East now. And this is happening in America. I guarantee you. I guarantee you, the Somalians, where you've got big Muslim communities, they're raping and they've already got the kids. One of the things that I thought was most interesting going to Israel post-October 7th, and you probably, did you see the 47-minute video that they haven't fully released publicly?
27:25And when you watch that video, I mean, the beheading that you see is not even the, that's literally not even the worst thing that you see. But the entire time they're screaming and they're calling their mothers, I killed the Jew, I killed five Jews. There were people, I killed 10. But they're saying Jew. They're not saying Israeli, they're not saying settler, they're not saying lefty, righty or anything else. They're saying Jew specifically. And your point is that this obviously is extrapolated to Christians and to anyone that's a non-believer. And by the way, to people that are Muslim that are just simply not - First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday.
27:56This is the - Look, there's an Islamic saying, first comes Saturday, then comes Sunday. Now what that means is the Jews are first, then the Christians. If anyone thinks, if they obliterate Israel and they surround them, which they are surrounded, do you know what I feel? Which I've always felt this analogy. I'm surrounded. I grew up in Luton Town, which is named by the CIA as the epicenter terrorist activity. Four times as many British Muslims went to join ISIS in a three-year period than have ever joined the British military. We have 40 ,000 Muslims on the terror watch list. We're surrounded.
28:27I know what it's like to feel like that. That's the same as Israel. They're surrounded. Now, if they won, and you don't have to take my word for it, Hamas's spokesman said on October 8th, Israel's not our goal, London and New York are. So when I hear commentators, And I know to Americans, you just don't get it. Come and speak to us. Come to Europe. Come and listen to us who live there. They're hostile. They hate us. They're aggressive. I'm hearing about a Muslim-Christian alliance. I think, yeah, tell that to the Christians. What's the Christian population of Syria now? What about Iraq? Every Christian population in every country in the Middle East has been destroyed.
29:02They've been driven out of every nation. Do you know the only place in the Middle East? Except for one, but don't tell Tucker which one. The only place in the Middle East where the Christian community has increased. It's in Israel. The only place. So when I see, and I look at, and Tucker Carlson come into my country, such a f***ing insult, I was raging. He made a video. All these crimes happen against our people. And he come in. Well, there's no problem in London. There's no problem in London. My Pakistani taxi driver was all right. Oh, that's it then. Oh, there's no problem, Tucker. Islam's great.
29:32Let's ignore the terrorism. Let's ignore every jihad attack. Let's just pretend it's not happening because you had a nice Pakistani taxi driver. How f***ing dare you come into our country? How dare you use your platform to diminish the rape of our country? How dare you? When I go around the country meeting the victims, the families, all of them, and just because you have decided to side with Qatar or side with Iran or side with whoever you've sided with, you think you can diminish what's happening in our nation when you know nothing about it. I'm still raging about it, thinking about it now. I think you come into our country and you sit there and you use the platform in our country to diminish and belittle a generation of our daughters.
30:07And again, just so the American audience can understand the scale of this problem, because this is why I'm insulted and I'm offended by when he'd done this. Say in Telford, I spent 18 months in Telford. I've done a five-part series called The Rape of Britain. You can watch these documentaries at trfilms.co.uk. And I chose Telford because Telford has a 1.7 % Muslim population. There's none there. So I went there, and the police investigation identified 1 ,000 victims and 200 perpetrators. Five children are dead. They've been burned alive and murdered in this town alone. So 1 ,000 victims. Now, when you take the numbers and you get rid of the under-16s and you get rid of the women, there's 1 ,000 Muslim men in that town.
30:46Now, look what they've done in one town. Now, when you go to that town, I have 1 ,000 Muslim men. I managed in my investigation, I sat down and I interviewed 18, 12 to 18 survivors, yeah? And I interviewed for three hours, four hours, three times, four times. And I built a database. and when the men were named by three or more girls that do not know each other, I go after them. And I go into their businesses and I went into the businesses, some of them that murdered children, yeah? And I went into the businesses and do you know, this isn't about sexual gratification. This is what you need to understand.
31:15In some of these cases, 11 cousins were raping kids together. Fathers and sons are raping kids together. Brothers and brother-in-laws. Imagine that. You're with your sister, her husband, and you go in and get a little kid and rape it. We've never seen these crimes in the West. It's unthinkable. Not in their community. It's mainstream and they're all accepting it. So when you see the scale of these problems, some girls had their tongues nailed to a table. Another girl was 11 years old. She had a hot iron rod with a letter M and it was scalded onto her bum because she was the property of Mohammed.
31:45But don't worry, Tucker had a nice Pakistani taxi driver. So I just think, how dare you, man? And the rape that they've done, it's not about sexual gratification. It's about destruction. It's about taking the thing that we hold dearest, the thing that we love, our children, and ruining them. Absolutely destroying them. And whilst they're doing that, everyone's too scared to say anything because the left and their organisations and NGOs have created such an environment where you lose your job or you're scared or you get attacked because if they put a target on you, they murder you like Charlie Kirk.
32:20So the media, they get rid of who they want by just calling them racist, Nazi extremists, racist, Nazi extremists a million times. Even if you're not a racist, Nazi extremist. And then they come for you. So I'm sorry I went on a rant there and I got a bit angry and I got a bit vexed. But I've watched my country be raped and pillaged. And then I see, and so this was a bit, I'm frustrated looking at some American commentators and listen to them just thinking, you've got no idea. Hamas, are you for real? Do you know what they do to you? I look at some of these gay people standing there, I think, you'll be off the rooftop, mate.
32:50Right. Tucker said that Hamas are freedom fighters. He went to Saudi Arabia and said he feels comfortable in the seat of Islam where there are no churches. He wants to buy a house in Qatar where they keep Christians as slaves. We could do that all day long. Do not apologize because for all the years I've been doing this, when a guest is locked in, I can literally feel it. Like I have a physical reaction to it and I just had it right there. I want to throw, because as long as you're on a run, Piers Morgan, and you have gotten into it many, many times over the years, including when he sat in that very chair and I asked him about you.
33:23He had Gad sat on, and Gad has a fascinating story because his family is from Lebanon, had to leave. They get it. Parents were kidnapped by Palestinian terrorists. I think this is in the late 70s. This is from about a week ago. Gad and peers discussing whether the UK has a problem with Islam. In terms of this whole debate, fueled a lot by people on the conservative right in America, that Britain has been invaded by radical Muslims. Megyn Kelly used that phrase last week with me. and we've lost control to radical Muslims. I just see no evidence that that is remotely true. There are currently 56 countries that are part of the OIC, the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
34:05Each of those countries, once upon a time, started with zero Muslims. Then you close your eyes and you open your eyes, and in many of those countries you have zero percent non-Muslims. I would argue back at that, that the vast majority of Muslims I know in the UK are very happy to be part of a multicultural Britain in which they assimilate quite happily with their neighbours of all types, of all creeds and races and religions and so on. I just don't see this hotbed of radicalism. There's so much drivel with peers, and I don't like talking bad about people that have been in this room, but I brought a lot of this up to him there.
34:46I mean, first off, that he says it's being fueled by the conservatives. He's got the fuel backwards. He's got the origin is backwards. The conservatives are reacting to their children being raped and terrorism. Go ahead. Do you know the IOC? So they signed the Declaration of Human Rights, but they changed it. They didn't sign the same one as the non-Muslim countries, as long as it's in line with Sharia. Well, human rights aren't in line with Sharia, are they? because the European Court of Human Rights ruled in 2007 that Sharia law is incompatible with Western democracy and freedom due to their views on homosexuals, their views on free speech, and their views on women.
35:23Now, what Pierre's talking about there, let me give you some statistics again, because numbers matter. Say, like, even Pew Research. Pew Research says that 99 % of Afghanis in Afghanistan want Sharia law. So when we import them, which you've done and we've done, our leaders have done it, they've betrayed all of us, when we import them into America or into Britain, they don't leave that view on the border. They bring it with them. They want Sharia law. And then you have to understand what Sharia law is. I think 42 % of French Muslims believe suicide bombings are justified. 35 % of British Muslims.
35:50And 26 % of American Muslims. Yeah? So we've got nearly a million Muslims in the UK, according to how they think, not how I think, how they think, that want Sharia law. That's a million that need to leave. That's a million. 67 % of Muslims, two-thirds of British Muslims, would not report on another Muslim who's getting involved with ISIS. We've got a problem. Piers doesn't think we've got a problem. I don't really see it. Well, you wouldn't see it, would you, Piers? You live in an exclusive elitist area. Your kids hang around in the most richest places ever. You've got chauffeur driven everywhere.
36:21You don't experience what we experience. But then you sit there telling us, I'm sorry, all right? Yeah, well, move them in your house. I mean, the truth is, he likes to be flown on a private plane to go see soccer games in Saudi Arabia, right? I mean... Well, the truth is, Piers doesn't... It's hard to know what he believes. He was pro-Black Lives Matter, and he was against Black Lives Matter. He's pro-vaccine, pro-lockdown. Telling everyone they had to get vaccines so I had to get locked down. He's, he, he, this is where we talk about people with dirty hands. Probably why he don't like me. He was in charge of Daily Mirror newspaper the whole time this rape scandal was going on.
36:51He knew it's happening. They all knew it's happening. Every one of them knew it's happening. But he's a coward. And then he wants to hammer us and attack us. So they're all cowards. And they don't actually care. Remember, there's a massive, I'll say there's a huge class issue in the UK. There's a huge, you don't have it here, but we really have it, where working class people should just sit down and shut up. And I think that's how they think. That's how they think. But our views and our voice is equal to theirs. They may not have experienced what we've experienced, but they should be listening to us.
37:20The English Defence League was a cry for help. We're on the streets crying for help. Help us. And the church were betraying us. The church has totally betrayed us in the UK. Although there is something happening there. There's Christian revival happening. But it's happening outside of the church. This is Rick Burgess from The Rick Burgess Show. I want to talk to you for a second about something most of us put on autopilot, car insurance. If you're just letting your policy auto-renew year after year without shopping around, I'm telling you, you are probably throwing money away. Rates change all the time and staying loyal to one company can end up costing you big time.
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39:06We hear so much of the human rights for foreign paedophiles, sex pests and murderers. He's not giving way. Members may disagree with what he's saying, but we will conduct this in an orderly way. What about the human rights of the British people? The right not to be raped, stabbed and killed by foreigners who should never have been in our country to begin with. Please spare me the continued moral outrage. Mr Lewis, sorry. So that line, what about the human rights of the British people? Gad, who we just referenced, you know, he has the phrase suicidal empathy. That's what he's talking about right there.
39:44Okay, you guys can pretend that these guys are wonderful all the time, but you're quite literally allowing rapes and murders of our own people. So do you think this party will have a chance? This party, that's our Trump. That's our Trump. But people thought that about Nigel. No, Nigel's always been weak. Even in the European Union, he refused to align with the fastest growing groups now in all of Europe because he looked down his nose upon them and all. Nigel always thought he was better. Nigel, and look, the problem is, Nigel's never tried to reach the working class or the non-voters. Nigel wants to be the establishment.
40:20We want to tear down the establishment. They've betrayed us at every level. Nigel's party is now Conservative Party. He's brought in all the failed. Robert Jenrick was in charge of immigration and letting the most immigrants ever. Now he's gone there. And now the winds have changed because things have changed in the UK. The mood of the nation's changed. So they're all trying to jump ship and they're all trying to ride that wave. But Nigel doesn't believe it. Rupert believes it. Rupert believes it. Do you know what? Since Churchill and Gladstone, now Churchill said Islam has the power to bring Europe back to the Dark Ages.
40:50William Gladstone held the Quran above his head in Parliament and said there'll never be peace on this earth so long as we have this book. It's a violent and cursed book. Since those two political figures, two of the greatest leaders our country's ever had, not one single member of parliament out of the 650 not one yeah has ever mentioned islam or haven't questioned islam ever we've had soldiers beheaded children's concerts blown up um entire restaurants where muslims jumped out of a van stabbed their way through borough market we've had so many terrorist attacks members of parliament stabbed and murdered by somalian terrorists we've had terror attacks a couple of muslims put in hotels that we're paying for come out and killed for Palestine.
41:30We've had all these jihad attacks. Not one person's ever mentioned it. You know, people might think you're exaggerating, but about seven years ago when I was in London, I walked around one evening with Douglas Murray, who of course has been way ahead of this, kind of like you, and wrote The Strange Death of Europe and several other books. And he took me to different places and was just pointing out what attack happened where. And this was just within a maybe two mile radius. Can we grab the picture of the event last night where they vandalized the Churchill monument? We'll pull that up. I want to show, oh, so we have it already so this is like i don't even know if you saw this yet but this is literally this is literally last night yeah so he flew in from holland to do that okay there's video of the guy doing it he should have been shot right there i'll go ahead and say it i know you guys don't don't worry because keir starmer banned eve of landerbrook right so this guy this bloke's part of a terrorist group because palestinian action are a terrorist group but he was allowed to enter our country there's no ban on him there's no ban on jihadists they're coming in from afghanistan the hate preachers coming in from all over the world but keir starmer don't worry british public he stopped Eva Vlanderbroek, a Dutch commentator who's a solicitor and lawyer who speaks freely and openly about some of the problems, gives an honest speech.
42:35She's banned from Great Britain. That's where we're at. Well, I'll be with her in Hungary next month. So am I going to get banned from your country when I try to come back in June? I mean, honestly, anything's possible. No, anything's possible. No. So free speech, America, you are the only place in the world. I don't know if you understand the value of it. We don't have it. We live in a post-free speech yearer 12 000 people last year were arrested for things they said on social media in britain only 800 in russia so a mother lucy connelly was given 31 months in jail for a tweet that she deleted after an hour you you don't you need to value it because all of the things that happen in our country are on their way to you they're here the seeds have been planted millions have been brought in and the way they organize and and conduct themselves minnesota was a real and and take it that what happened in New York with his election and what happened in Minnesota, they're the warning shots.
43:29They're the moments where this country needs to stand up. You're ahead of the curve. You've got 42 members of Congress. If you're a Republican and you're watching this, contact your member of Congress and ask them why they've not joined, if they haven't, the anti-Sharia caucus within the Congress. Because I know they're at 42 at the minute. Now, for us, for me, the fact that you've got politicians, the fact that people are you, Dave, because in Britain, it was just us. Now, now there's more people. But in 2009, no one was talking about this issue. You couldn't talk about it because they want to kill you.
44:00They want to attack you. There's six Muslims in jail doing 30 years. They got caught guns and bombs and suicide notes on the way to kill us. People want to murder you for this. And this is another thing, America. I just got last week, you can hear the recording. I got a week, just before I come out here, the police come to me. They give me a Osman warning. And an Osman warning is when the government know that there's intelligence, someone's plan to murder you. Now, I was publicised in this month's ISIS magazine to be killed. So when the police come, that's one thing. Because they've let them all in our country.
44:29They haven't stopped them. 2 ,000 returned from fighting for ISIS. They're in my town. It's not like they're in Afghanistan and Pakistan. They're standing next to us as we walk through the town centre. They're here. That's one thing. But then the police tell me, if you get a weapon to defend yourself, you'll be prosecuted. So we are disarmed. We have no ability to defend ourselves. And our country's flooded with terrorists. they have weapons the criminals have weapons we have nothing so i have i for the last three years since 2020 22 21 i have been living hiding i don't live in the same place i can't anyone's house i stayed at i bring trouble to i bring violence to because if it's people want to kill me and the police aren't there to protect us and the police actually go out of their way to defend the jihadists it's not just that at these rallies where they take over massive amounts of city these streets, yeah.
45:19All these things had to happen, unfortunately. Unfortunately, everything had to happen. If you want to get the public to a position, Joe Biden, they had to steal, whether you want to believe they steal or not believe they steal America, when they stole that election, that's what I believe, when they stole that election, you needed that. You needed Joe Biden to be in power. You needed to see you as a puppet. You needed to see what the Democrat Party are about. You needed to see it, to wake you up. Now, we had to see it. So we've had to get in this position. Lucy Connolly, the mother, 31 months in jail, they sent her to jail and they wanted to strike fear into the heart of every British mum because they were showing the public, we can lock up the mums, we'll lock up anyone.
45:56They took a granddad who was non-violent and he had a sign against the government. They sent him to jail. He died in jail. He killed himself because all the Muslim gangs wanted to get him in jail. They locked me up for 18 months and went against every violation of my human rights. They put me on solitary confinement for seven months. I went into jail and left jail without seeing or speaking to another person. for seven months, for making a documentary. Now, the reason they'd done this was to scare everyone. January 6th was to scare you all. The way they went and rounded everyone up so publicly, locked them up, treated them like shit, gave them huge sentences.
46:30That was all about scaring you from ever coming out again. They didn't want to protest again. They wanted to rob stuff, steal elections, do whatever they want. And you, the Republicans, everyone watch and know it's wrong, but think, yeah, but look what they've done on January 6th to the people there. That's what it's about. But in Britain, it didn't work. That didn't work. Do you know why it didn't work? Because Elon Musk bought X. So let me read this tweet from January of 2025. So just over a year ago, Elon Musk, about you. And tell me if this is the first time I've tweeted about you. He wrote, why is Tommy Robinson in a solitary confinement prison for telling the truth?
47:01He should be freed and those who covered up this travesty should take his place in that cell. So we don't have to go into the long laundry list of things that he has done to defend free speech. But was that the first time that he brought attention to what was happening? to you yeah so i i told i reported on a story and i was um the whole story was a lie it wasn't just a lie it was fabricated so how many stories like this are a lie so i reported on a story it was about a i have to be careful here because i'm still under court orders where i can't i can't speak openly here i'll get two years straight in jail yeah so i went to court and i defended what i'd said but what i did is i wore hidden i wore a button and the camera and it was a school in the north of england and a syrian refugee had poured a had a bottle of water poured on him and piers morgan demanded severe retribution against the english kid piers morgan against the child you know that child was driven from his own tried to kill himself people come up threatened to rape his mum kill his family all this and piers morgan played his part in that pathetic journalism he's not like it's outrageous what he'd done just to jump on jump on the wave of multiculturalism and defending but the truth of the story from coming from the parents was that that story's a lie.
48:06So I reported that you're being lied to. The British public had raised £180 ,000 for the Syrian refugee in a 24-hour period. So I've done a report saying, stop paying your money here. This isn't the full story. You've seen the clip. Lots of else is going on here. Stop raising money. And I made some allegations against a Syrian refugee where I said he threatened to stab someone. And I said that he attacks English girls. That's what I said. This then goes, and then they sue me. So when they sue me, they take me to court. I think I need to prove what I said, it was true. So I wear a hidden camera.
48:36And I go and knock on the school teacher's doors. And the school teacher comes out and he says, I took the money. What do you mean you took the money? He said, they paid me. Who paid you? Kirkley's council. So I look at who runs Kirkley's council. And it's Shabir Mahmood. It's a Muslim. And his brother is a lead imam who organized protests at the time outside the school. So all these things, they're all connected. So he's paid. So I put in a free information request. I get seven teachers saying they were paid not to tell the truth. So as this story blew up and they told everyone I lied, when I told the truth, yeah, they told everyone i lied i produced all this before a judge and say there you go case smashed yeah i told the truth how can you find me in defamation when i've got so much evidence of all these crimes yeah and uh what they did is the judge listed everything that come out in court and he said if you ever show the british public if you ever show these the any of this outside this courtroom you will spend two years in jail now i walked out of court that day and i've lived my life that if you worry about consequence you'll never bring about change so i've i've always just done, if I think it's right, I'm doing it.
49:33If it's right for our country and it's right for what's happening, I'm going to do it. And I've never worried about the consequence. So at this time, I'd been in jail the year before for reporting outside a court case. I'd done three months of solitary and I went in jail with one person and come out another. I was broken. I was absolutely destroyed. It may sound mad. You think three months. And I was diagnosed at that point with post-marchist stress disorder. But I've come out. I've had all this chaos. In this court case, they bank run me. So the whole purpose was the weaponization of the court.
50:00And what I what I managed to do was get covert recordings proving the whole start to finish process. I called it the unholy alliance, the unholy alliance of the judiciary, the media, the left wing groups, the police, all of them come together. And it was the lengths that they'll go to, to control the narrative and control the story and make sure you don't get the truth. And those lengths went to destroying me. So they took me through the courts and they banked me, 1.3 million pounds, smashed me. And then they told everyone I lied. And I've got a bomb here. That's what I'm thinking. I've got a grenade because this shows the truth.
50:30But I've got two years if I show it and I bottled it and uh I left England I was in a dark place I was these I was censored I was de-platformed I had no voice and then um and now I'm in Spain and then my ex-account turns on which was Elon Musk when my ex-account turned on October 7th has happened they took over all the country all the major cities in in Europe and the West they've took over the universities this has been a long time coming they left they've had their revolution you need to realize they've had it it's been a very successful revolution on their side through the education mass borders cancel culture attack the church attack the family attack the man attacked it all they've had it but the counter revolution has now started and they ain't stopping it so at this time my account comes back I fly back to the UK I think right the fight's on now because you can't hide what we're doing so I organised my first rally bang I get a letter from the my solicitor gets a letter from the Attorney General we're contemplating prosecuting you for contempt of court because this film that I made had been leaked to America someone played in America I didn't play it I didn't play it someone played in America but the injunction read so severely that if anyone plays it they can prosecute me so they give me a warning shot saying we're contemplating processing crew now and at this point I think well I'm back on social media now like before that I was erased from everywhere so I think okay so I make a video addressing the attorney general and basically saying go fuck yourself well come and get me if you want to get me yeah and then and things karma works in it works well because we organize then and this is what america needs to do yeah or americans need to do you've got lots of personalities on the right of politics and in lots of influencers we had a lot and we've been censored with my d platform been attacked so i brought them all together and i set up a two-day a two-day meeting where we sat together for two days i bought 15 people i bought lawrence fox cole benjamin yeah um jordan peterson flew in i explained to jordan peterson look any any counter revolution or any cultural revolution it doesn't start with the educated it can't yeah because it just can't it has to start on the bottom of the streets so that's what we wanted to do now i said if now you're not in the danger that we're in so i think we were all ready because we've witnessed our culture disappear and we can see the erosion of it we can see that we're losing our nation so at that point we come together and we didn't focus on what we disagree on because we were disagreeing a lot when you get this many egos forever everyone's got an ego when you put them together and everyone was saying you're never going to get all these people to agree so we got in a room and we gave everyone a bit of paper and we'd done our board and said, right, just tell us the top 10 things that are important to you for Britain.
53:02And we windled it down to five that all of us agreed on. So it wasn't my movement. You see that Unite the Kingdom has now become so huge, it's our MAGA. But it wasn't my movement. The important thing about it was that these people, and I don't think they get recognition, it was Katie Hopkins, it was Lawrence Fox, it was Carl Benjamin, it was Mayor Tusi, all of them have experienced cancel culture and all of them have faced attack. We brought them all together. We left that room after two days. and what we said is and I went public and told the government what we're doing I said we're coming for you we're coming for you because you used a weapon of the media against us well we're now the media because at the click of a finger we will reach the entire country now because once we all work together under one umbrella and we want to get a message out there you can't stop us now I was still banned from YouTube but he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't so that's what our plan was and our plan was to if you change the culture you change the politics so we organised our first event and we made it about British identity, British culture, and 30 ,000 people turned up.
53:57We had gospel bands, we had singers, we had an event, and we had a real, and I'd learned, Google the English Defensity, I'd led a street protest movement of young angry men, and our demographic has totally shifted now. We've reached the mainstream, but those young angry men were needed because no one was listening. So it was needed, but I also felt embarrassed at times about the behaviour of some of our supporters, but also the way we conducted ourselves um i've grown up i've learned i feel like i've done my apprenticeship so at this point now i know how to negotiate with the police so i set up a meeting with the london police i said right if i want to you know i can and i'll organize a demo on the same day as a palestinian rally if i want to yeah you know i can do it and you know thousands of men are going to descend on the capital and that's going to be chaos for you guys and for us we don't want that yeah that's not what we want but we want respect yeah we want the same ways as Black Lives Matter.
54:48We want the same rights as a left-wing organization. We want to be able to have a cultural day where we celebrate our identity with screens and music where you lot leave us alone and don't smash us. And you guys, there's going to be no violence unless the other guys bring it. So we said, we'll do it anywhere. If they say they want to protest there, we'll protest 10 miles that way. So we'll work with you and we're asking you to stay away. Stay out of our sight. We'll police ourselves. If there's a problem, come to us. We'll get an out. This is Rick Burgess from The Rick Burgess Show. I want to talk to you for a second about something most of us put on autopilot car insurance.
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56:28So we've got lots of football men together from different clubs. And we said to the lads, look, on this day, and I made lots of videos saying, if you come to our demonstration, and this is where infiltration, I've seen it all through the EDL. We made a rule, no face coverings. Then you prevent the police infiltrating, like January 6th, and you prevent them stoking things because they can't do it. And we said, if you wear a face covering, we will turn on you. We will drag you out, yeah? You're not wearing face coverings. If you come and you're aggressive, leave your aggression at home because you're going to ruin what we're doing.
56:55So we went from 30 ,000, 30th of June. 27th of July, 100 ,000 patriots turned up in our capital city. Now, at that point, I made a decision, sat my kids down, and I said, it's too important because the film I've got, the grenade that I've had for two years, this is our moment. because this will hurt them. Because their judiciary, what they keep citing, all the newspapers now in America keep listing my criminal record. I've never been tried by a jury. I've never been tried by a jury. I've faced relentless lawfare since I opened my mouth. And then they use it to discredit you and tarnish you. So my last two cases, thank you, Elon Musk, I've beat a terrorism case, and I've beat another case, and both those judges ruled that I was being politically targeted and persecuted.
57:37And everything the police done was unlawful. It would have been the same for all the other cases that have had the help of a proper legal team. I face 10 years now on the 26th of October. They're not stopping. They're not stopping. But we went on the 27th of July, 100 ,000 people, and I stood up on stage and said, I've got an injunction. You're not allowed to see this film. Press play. And I played the film. And then that message you showed there from Elon Musk, it was a big risk. I said to my son, didn't I? I said, I might get 10 million people to watch this film. If I can get 10 million people to watch this film, son, then we have reached the public and they know that that's corrupt.
58:10They won't trust their court cases. Now, you've seen this with Donald Trump. You've seen it with Alex Jones. In fact, do this. Pick any populist political leader in Europe. Gert Wilders, pick Morton Messerschmidt, pick Marie Le Pen. Just Google court case. Salvini, look what they've done to Salvini. Every one of them who have stood up against the status quo of the European Union have faced court case, court case, court case. Some of them for six years. Marie Le Pen now can't stand in politics for five years. It's a weapon that they use against her. And I had all the evidence of it. I played the film and then I rang home in January.
58:43I'm 10 or 12 weeks in solitary confinement, pretty low, sitting in a cell for a documentary. But when I went before the judge, when they got me in court, and he offered me a deal to remove the film, he said, delete the film and I'll drastically reduce your prison sentence. So I'm not deleting the film. And if you send me to jail for telling the truth, the world's going to know I told the truth. So it's not me who's on trial here. you're on trial the judiciary's on trial I'm not on trial I told the truth I went to jail and then I rang home and my son was like dad dad dad I was like what what's going on he said Elon Musk shared the film which and I'm like at that point I'm like yes we're broken so not only did Elon show it but just for the sake of time I want to throw you a little hero you can keep talking through some of this but I mean it was we covered it also on the show but it was unbelievably extraordinary you can roll with some of this I mean the amount of people yesterday led by so you guys said this so i come out of jail after seven months of solitary 167 million people watching as big as the demonstration we're at 100 million views it went to 167 million views the whole country watched that film the whole it went it went worldwide so at that point i walked out of court now when i walked out of court when i walked out of jail i knew whatever i say here now and i was felt terrible and i put i put on a strong face, but I felt a mess.
1:00:09But I walked out and went straight up to the camera and just said on September 13th, they wanted to stop what we were doing, which is a cultural revolution happening in Great Britain. We bought it to 100 ,000, then we went to 200 ,000. And we've built this, we've built a movement to give you a voice. On September 13th, we take over London. And boom, that was the biggest event in British history. Millions come, millions descended in the biggest, that's the biggest before that was 750 ,000 for a pro-Gaza protest, of course. But that was the biggest event. And that's because people see their culture disappearing.
1:00:38They see it. We're witnessing it. So yeah. And there was nothing racist and all the rest. It's not even worth addressing it. They've lost that. They've lost a monopoly. The diversity of our crowd is very diverse now. Yeah. Right. You get plenty of people that look every which way and all that. So I want to connect. We called it Uniting the Kingdom to Unite the Kingdom. So you've done it several times, but I want to connect this to what's happening in America right now because you are here and clearly your message is desperately, desperately needed. And I want to connect this to you. You mentioned Mandami in New York.
1:01:08We played this clip a few days ago. He went to a mosque and gave a speech. And I want to, we'll play a little bit of his English speech. And then you're going to hear the Arabic that the imam was saying after. Take a look. You know, last Ramadan, I was with many of you here at the procession on the martyrdom anniversary of Imam Ali. It is a privilege to be here with you once again. I stand before you as the first Muslim mayor in our city's history. And this year as the first Jummah that I have attended in that new position.
1:01:49Oh, the killing of the infidels by the sword. Would it be Islamophobic to say there's a problem right now in New York City? You see what you need to do? He should be deported instantly. That imam should be deported instantly. No. And send a message to him, you're not going to tolerate this. Now, this is the point. I've been pretty surprised at how vocal and very confident they are in America. They're only 1%. We're 6%, they say. We're probably 12%. But look how confident they are at 1%. Look at Texas. They're planning for the future. They're planning to take Texas. Yeah, Texas has a huge problem.
1:02:25The Dallas area is out of the country right now. They're planning to take it. It's planned. They're planning to take it. 50 mosques in the last two years. They're planning for the future. They're planning for the future. And right now, look, we have to get... And to some people, this is difficult. Some people are just nice people. I get it. Not all Muslims are bad. I get that. But the peaceful Muslims are irrelevant. They were irrelevant. They're irrelevant in Syria. They're irrelevant in Afghanistan. They're irrelevant. They're not going to stop it. They're not going to save you. They're not going to save you.
1:02:52So you need to save yourself. and you cannot allow this to grow, this radicalization, this extremism, this fundamentalism, this community that wished to overthrow democracy. But the scary thing of it is they'll use democracy to end democracy. You've got... Well, that's why they go with the liberals, right? It's why they go with the left, the soft underbelly of liberalism. They're so tolerant. Well, Gad Sade will tell you, they've done it in Lebanon. They've done it in Iran. This is... There's 45 countries we can look at to learn from history. We have 1 ,400 years of history to look at. Islam has never, ever, ever, ever peacefully coexisted.
1:03:30They come in a small number. Once they get to a certain percent, they take over. Now, why does Britain or America or Europe think they're going to be the exception of this 1 ,400-year history? It's the same book. It's the same Islam. It's the same teachings. It's the same Islam that governs Sharia law or governs Saudi Arabia, these totalitarian states. it's the same Islam in America. So to illustrate your point, look, check this video out. It's an undercover video. This is Zorhan's canvassing director. His name is Robert Akela. And listen to him quite literally say everything that Tommy just laid out.
1:04:04Hey, this is the only Muslim running for mayor. We win. We'll be the first Muslim ever to be mayor. We go to the mosque. We organize the mosque. We get the imams to tell people, go vote. We get Zorhan to go there and talk. that's how we do it that's how you do it we go to a hundred a minute a week a hundred mosques so we know they're doing this they're doing it in our country they're not doing it in the UAE they ban the mosques well the UAE the UAE ban his parts here the UAE ban all the groups the UAE are far better at this than us they're far better than us than us we don't ban them we give home to them we give home to them and we give home to them from the time when they're battling the Soviet And we've actually supported and created them like the Taliban and these groups because it suited us geopolitical.
1:04:56It suited us. But they never thought it would come against us. It was here. So let's end with this final clip. People have seen it many times this week, but this was obviously the most important moment of the State of the Union. Take a look. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. the first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.
1:05:33No Democrats. It's unclear whether Fetterman stood up. I'll grant him that. This is where we're at in this country. so if you haven't rang the alarm loud enough so far bring us home america you when you voted in donald trump i saw so many slogans of vote to save america it's far bigger than america you voted to save western civilization you gave us hope now hope is contagious you see those scenes you see in london that happened because of a elon musk and b the election of donald trump we we see light at the end of the tunnel. We don't have speech. And when we see J.D. Vance or Rubio, when we see them lecturing the European Union and warning our leaders that you better respect your citizens, because that, do you know what?
1:06:16Free speech is the enemy of our leadership. It's the enemy of the European Union. They hate it. They hate it. They have to stop it. And they had control. They had control of your country. Do you know during big tech, when they were censoring conservatives, censoring Republicans, deleting all of us? You may have thought you had free speech, but you haven't got free speech if the biggest arena for debate is controlled by them and no one can say anything. So Elon Musk steps in. Elon Musk will be remembered throughout history, I don't think, for putting things on Mars. Sorry, Elon. I think you'll be remembered for saving Western civilization through free speech because if we don't have speech, we have nothing.
1:06:51We have nothing. If you lose your speech, there's no speech in the world. If you lose your freedom, there's no freedom in the world. So people say, why do you care about America? Because it's the only place that's defending it. It's the only place that actually believes in it. It's the only place where the people want it. You see the new generations coming through, they don't even want free speech. They have no idea what they're willing for. Now, when you go to Europe and you go, but on an optimistic side, I have been in this for 15, 16 years every day and I've witnessed a massive change. Something historic is happening.
1:07:21In the last 12 to 24 months, something biblical like in the UK, there's a massive shift where people who hated me and they're like realising you're right. And when this time comes, When the British population, European populations, when they realise our safety's gone, our daughters aren't safe, what have you done? What's happened? We've got a thousand years of Christian English history. You've given it away in 60 years through weak and coward leadership. You've given it away. When they realise that, they're going to look for who lied, politicians, media. The media aren't ready for what's coming their way.
1:07:54That everyone's going to be so angry, so angry for the betrayal of what they've done. And then they're going to look to who told the truth. And that's who they're going to trust. and I'm not saying I'm perfect, I'm absolutely far from it, and I don't claim to be sitting here polishing my halo, but we stood for what's right, we stood for truth to power, and we fought for it, and there's one thing that I keep saying to our audience is, it's in our DNA, as British people, it's in our DNA to fight, it's what we do, we fight tyranny, anyone will talk, if you talk about British armed forces, they'll fight, it's what we do, we fight, but they've created a generation who are selfish, who don't care about the greater good.
1:08:32You know, and Israel, lots of people are battering Israel. I went to Israel and I spent time with some lone soldiers. And then I sat around the table with those lone soldiers. I realised where we're fucked, excuse my French again, where we've messed up so bad. Because these young men have left their families. So a lone soldier is someone who doesn't have family in Israel, but they're Jewish. So they've flown into the country on their own to go and fight. Because those young men realise there's something greater than them. It's bigger than them. It's bigger than their family. It's a survival of their state and their people.
1:09:03Now, like us, we don't care. It's all about us as individuals. It's about me. My family, all right? I'm all right. I've made a few quid. I'll move out there. Well, it's coming for you. That's what we're realizing now in the UK. We're going to get to the beach. Where are you going to go then? You can't run from this. You cannot run from this. And it's better to deal with it now before it's too late. There is no solution to Europe's problems without absolute chaos. Chaos is coming. Chaos has to happen. But we have to survive. It is not right that blacks become a minority in Nigeria. It's not right that the Japanese become a minority in Japan.
1:09:35Well, it's not right that we, English, become a minority in England. And we're not going to allow it. So all of these attempts to silence, stop, detract, beat us down and beat us into submission, it's not going to work. There is a revival happening. It's happening on the streets. It's happening with the Unite the Kingdom movement. The British public are awake. It's about what I always said. If the people understood the danger our country faces, we'd have the revolution we need tomorrow. But it's about been reaching them. And they've stopped us reaching them. But then it stops Elon Musk. And these sorts of conversations, America, get ready.
1:10:09Wake up. Speak truth to power. Never let them do to you what they've done to us. And don't think you might lose your job. It's not about your job. It's about your country, your history. It's about everything. So, yeah, again, I'm so blessed to be here. I know a lot of people are upset that I'm here. I'm so blessed to be here because I believe I have a warning to give you. I'm not talking about what I've read in the book. I've lived it. I've seen it. I know how it's going to happen. I can tell you exactly what's going to happen in your states where you bring them in. And exactly how everyone will bend and eat them and you will become irrelevant.
1:10:39They'll become superior. We're treated like second-class citizens. So, Tommy, if I ever forget why I do this show, you just fully reminded me. I mean that in the most genuine possible way. like 10 years, literally 10 years ago and one week is when we first did this. And a lot has changed, but I think you're right. The world has bent our way and we got a lot of work to do. We're probably just at the beginning of the beginning. I always keep saying all the problems you've seen, it's like the trailer to a movie. The movie ain't started yet. All right, I'm with you, brother. Cheers, man. Thanks, Dave.
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Tommy Robinson about Zohran Mamdani's radical Muslim ties and agenda for New York City; how UK Green Party leaders like Mothin Ali are successfully tricking progressive voters to draw them away from Keir Starmer and the Labour party; Gad Saad explaining to Piers Morgan how UK's increasing Muslim population may not be viewed as a problem now, but history has a dark warning about its future; new developments surrounding the Muslim grooming gang scandals in the UK; the cultural and political effects of mass migration; the Unite the Kingdom rally he helped lead; and the broader fight over free speech, censorship, and national identity in the UK, and much more.
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