Erika Kirk Breaks Silence on Candace Owens' Charlie Kirk Conspiracies

23:56I thought we were friends. Just, again, it does not matter. In some, like on the friendship level, it doesn't matter. I had friends before, I'll have them after. But anyway, Megan has been seriously criticized for this because she's never going after any of this stuff while purporting to be a fearless, bold truth teller, et cetera, et cetera. When she had Ben Shapiro on her live show a couple of weeks ago, we played some clips of that where Ben, I thought, did an incredible job of going on someone else's show with a live audience and saying some very, very controversial things, including that Candace had been going after Erica and Turning Point as it relates to Charlie's murder.

24:36The next day, Megan went on and said this. And I was taken aback because that seems like something I would have heard. It's so crazy. And I have since learned it is not true. Candace has not made that claim. And in fact, I've now seen several clips of Candace specifically defending Erica Kirk. OK, so that's actually not quite true because she's been dancing around it. The implication of its turning point. Well, she is the CEO of Turning Point and kind of saying maybe Erica knew like she's doing all these strange dances. Here is Candace yesterday.

25:13Erika Kirk:OK, super fun show today. You're probably seeing the clips, but Erica has gone off on conspiracy theorists. Obviously, every journalist out there is emailing me because it's about me. It's indirect, but it's also about me. And don't worry, in case you think it's not about me, she is going to name check me on stage with Barry Weiss on Saturday. How do we know? Because our mommy's sleuths be everywhere. And they recorded the town hall today. And as soon as the town hall concluded, we got a flutter of emails. And what she says about the Egyptian planes, I'm sorry, not going to lie, it's a little suspicious.

25:47Erika Kirk:It's weird. It's a weird response. So look, we got to go there. Okay. So she obviously is implying that there's, that Erica is somehow up to no good related to all of this. God, that's fucking, you know, this is also someone, she's got a super fun show today. She does her little selfie video a week ago. She said that the French legionnaires were trying to kill her and that, and there was, and that Emmanuel Macron had put$1.5 million into some secret account for her death. And then that weekend she went to Dollywood and then went to Tucker Carlson's Christmas party. Like this is, this is literally insane.

26:25So, okay. So let's just put all of that there. I don't know what, I don't know what to say about some of these people. I genuinely don't know what to say. You think, you know, people and I've met some really awesome, authentic people while doing this, you know, like, and I've really over the last couple of weeks been like trying to sort that in my brain, like who are the good people, like really good people who I really know who have honor and behave the same way on camera and off camera and who are the others? And it's even, you know, maybe you're supposed to learn more of that lesson probably when you're in your 20s and I'm learning it in my late 40s, I guess.

26:59As Eric is going on many of these shows, I thought this was just a great moment because one of the people who influenced Charlie most was my good friend, Dennis Prager, who, as you guys know, he took a fall about a year ago and he has no ability to move his body below his neck right now. I'm hopefully going to see him in a week or two. I've seen him at the hospital. And it's a major loss that we have with Dennis right now. But here's Erica with Brian Kilby talking about how Dennis influenced Charlie. Dennis Prager was somebody that he dedicated the book to. He did. What did Dennis Prager bring to Charlie Kirk?

27:32Erika Kirk:So Charlie listened to every single fireside chat. I had the blessing of being able to see Dennis this past week when we were on our way to Florida. I wanted to see him. I wanted to be able to just read to him the dedication of the book that Charlie did for him and just say, Dennis, you will always be one of the most influential voices of our time. Thank you for taking the time to pour into my husband. I just love that. Dennis has loomed so large over our life and my family's life and been such a good human being. And the fact that Charlie saw that and dedicated this last book, which again, it's about the Jewish Sabbath written by a Christian, I just think is so absolutely beautiful.

28:15And they cared. They both cared. You know, it's interesting. Dennis and Charlie, it's not a coincidence that he dedicated that book to him. They cared. What did they care about? They really, really cared about the country. They cared about the United States of America, but they both really cared about their faith, even though their faith was a little bit different. And part of what I've tried to do here is blend those things together for people because it's not all about politics, but the politics part is important. So as long as we're on this journey calling out some of this nonsense with Candace, here she is recently on the political side of things.

28:50And you tell me, is she on your side? I don't care about your midterms.

28:56Erika Kirk:okay i don't care about your next year midterms and whether or not the republican party is united okay i care i care about those midterms because if the democrats win and they keep getting cities like they just got new york city and if you know jasmine crockett becomes a senator from texas we could give this all up we we are rolling into our 250th anniversary 2026, 250 years of America, pretty freaking sweet, but pretty freaking young. Most countries in Europe are way, way older than us. Some of them in the thousands. We may not make it. So you better damn well care. So when you hear people like her saying, well, I don't care anymore.

29:38The Republicans suck. Or Tucker has been saying it. He hates the Republicans. It's something like he hates the Republicans more than he hates the Democrats. I'm not saying everything they do is perfect. It is what it is. It's politics. But if you can't see what is good and what is bad right now, or you're somehow rooting for the bad side so you can punish some other people, I don't know what to do with you. And I don't think Erica knows what to do with a lot of this either. Erica, one of the most alarming things about Charlie's murder was the way that some people in this country reacted to it.

30:11Yeah. And not just online. This was kind of, this was an idea that you encountered a lot. And the idea was this. They kind of justified it. They basically said that because Charlie said or believed things that they believed were controversial or even hateful, that he somehow had it coming. What do you say to people who justified his death? You're sick.

30:38Erika Kirk:He's a human being. You think he deserved that? Tell that to my three-year-old daughter.

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31:47And I pray that God saves you. So there's two things going on here. So in that clip, they're talking about the people that kind of celebrated it, right? And there were a certain set of people. It wasn't everybody on the left at all. We've been warning for quite some time if you called everybody Nazis that people might start killing Nazis, but it wasn't everybody, but there was a certain portion. That's one set of people. The other set that's not directly referenced there, but what we're talking about here is the people that have decided to profit off it, the people who have decided to take everything that Charlie cared about and lived for and burn it down.

32:29You know, Tucker doing that thing about how the people he hates most in the country, or it wasn't even in the country, I think he said, people he hates most are christian zionists charlie was literally the number one christian zionist in in the world in some sense right um that this is the road that you guys have all gone down so whether it's for money or for clicks or for some trying to fill some freaking spiritual void or something it's like everybody may maybe right now you know it's christmas in two weeks like maybe Maybe everybody wants to pause for a moment and take a moment and think about what that is about, whether you're Christian or Jewish or anything else, what the birth of Christ is about.

33:10Maybe we want to think a little bit about humility and forgiveness and everything else, which is why I'm trying to do this show this way and not add fuel to the fire. And I didn't for weeks now. Phoenix and I have been having a back and forth on how do we deal with this? And should I be fighting back? Because I'm getting name checked in Tucker's show and Candace and all this stuff all the time. Do I want to be part of that? Is that what I want my life to be? And do I want to just narrate the end of the world? You know, they used to say the revolution will be televised and now the revolution will be live streamed.

33:38And how much do you want to do that? And how much do you want to call out your friends and everything else? Look, I guess I'm not friends with Megan anymore. Okay, okay, it's fine. Like it actually, it's literally, it's fine. It's fine. When she unfollowed me on Twitter for two minutes, I was like, well, that kind of sucked. Like what's going on here? And then I was just like, it's fine. It doesn't, none of this matters in that personal, like that doesn't matter to you. that doesn't matter the culture war right and and in a way it doesn't matter me again i have friends but something about what is happening right now is way deeper than just the political part and we've got to figure this out can we put a can we put a bow on that for now and move on to some other things all right we're going to put a bow on that for now and move on to some other things but first let me talk to you about noble gold guys gold has officially gone mainstream every day more More and more Americans are discovering the power of gold, but how do you actually take advantage of it and invest in a simple way?

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35:02That's DaveRubinGold.com. Noble Gold, helping you build a stronger future. All right, let's shift all together. Maybe I can get my normal cadence back and we can get some sarcasm and fun into this thing. Yeah, something, something. Where's the whoopee cushion when you need it? Well, there are some drugs trying to be brought over. I'm gonna have to go really old. So there's some drugs being brought over from Venezuela and people were blowing them up. You know what's happening, but it's now getting a little bit worse. So we're blowing up some boats. People are freaking out whether we're allowed to kill all of the drug, narco drug traffickers or not.

35:37There's been this whole fight about that, but it now does seem to have escalated a bit because, listen to this from the BBC, US forces have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, President Donald Trump said, marking a sharp escalation in Washington's pressure campaign against Nicolas Maduro's government. Releasing a video of the seizure, Attorney General Pam Bondi described the vessel as a crude oil tanker used to transport sanctioned oil from Venezuela and Iran. Caracas swiftly denounced the action, calling it an act of international piracy. Earlier, President Maduro declared that Venezuela would never become an oil colony.

36:12For multiple years, the oil tanker has been sanctioned by the United States due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations. The nation's top prosecutor wrote on X, It involved two helicopters, 10 Coast Guard members, and 10 Marines, as well as special forces. Okay, so this is an escalation one way or another. It's one thing if we're just blowing up the drug traffickers who are literally taking drugs to our shore, and we can have the, as I've said, we can have the political and we can have the moral and philosophical debates about blowing those ships up.

36:42Do you interdict them? Do you pick up the people before the double tap? All of those things. but basically taking an oil tanker is, I think it's fair to say it's an escalation one way or another. Here's Donald Trump being asked about it. I'm interested in the seizure of this tanker. Well, what happens to the oil on this ship? Well, we keep it, I guess. Where does it go? What does it go to? Well, you have to follow the tanker. You're a good newsman, just follow the tanker. Do you know where we're going? Follow it, get a helicopter, follow the tanker. Is it true? But we're gonna, I guess soon we're gonna keep the oil.

37:17Again, it's just Trump at his best because he doesn't have the answer for everything. He's not exactly sure where the oil is going to go and what are we going to do with it. But he is sending a serious signal. It's always about the signal, guys. You don't get peace through weakness. You get peace through strength. So what have we done with Venezuela and their communist government? We've said, stop sending drugs here. And oh, by the way, we have sanctions on Iranian oil. You guys seem to be shipping it in these ships. so we are going to do something about it. And Trump, he's just being honest there.

37:51I'm not exactly sure what we're gonna do with it. I love you, like you're journalists, track the freaking thing. But of course there's a certain set of people who, as I've been saying, I do think Trump derangement syndrome one day will be actually classified as a mental disorder. This is a guy, he's quite a looker, by the way. He's Michigan representative Sri Thandakar, and he's introducing articles of impeachment for Pete Hegseth for murder of the drug trafficking narco-terrorists who were bringing fentanyl to our shores. Watch this video, although I do have to note his eyebrows are freaking me out.

38:28So if you're with small children, you might wanna cover their eyes, go. Hello, this is Congressman Sheree Thanedar. Today, I introduced articles to impeach Secretary Pete Hegseth for murder and conspiracy to murder and reckless and unlawful mishandling of classified information. Since day one, Secretary Hexert has disgraced that once proud office that he holds, from issuing orders to kill everybody on board a small boat with no evidence of any wrongdoing, to launching a follow-up strike to finish off survivors who barely clinging onto their life. We must impeach and remove Pete Hexet as soon as possible.

39:25Thank you. How do you get eyebrows like that? You know, it's a pencil. It's what they did with Jerry's uncle, Uncle Leo. Remember when he goes to the doctor and they draw the eyebrows on and then the doctor thinks he's angry? That's what they did right there. Come give me a picture of Uncle Leo with the eyebrows. We'll do that real quick. Interesting, Thandakar over there, his previous job was in a New Jersey lab. I think he was some sort of doctor or something and they were running some sort of experiments. He left 150 dogs to die. So he's not a really spectacular fella. Although that does remind me, if you're ever at an Indian restaurant and you're not sure about tipping, there's a very important piece of information that you must know, which is don't forget to curry the one.

40:05Otherwise you'll cheap out on the guy who brought your vegetable foul, Tracy. Do we have an image of Uncle Leo? We're working on Uncle Leo and his eyebrows. I'm not moving forward with the show until we have a picture of Uncle Leo. And look at those eyebrows right there. And those are the Thandakars. That's what we're gonna call them from now on. So look, despite all this craziness that's going on right now, interestingly, we showed you a CNN poll last week that said 87 % of Republicans still support Trump. And now it even seems that some of the independents who are waffling and every day, you know, you're an independent, so you're just like, eh, eh, eh, eh.

40:41Like, they even seem to be coming around a little bit. Here's Bill O 'Reilly on that. Trump's approval is up, okay, because of what he's doing to the drug dealers. That's why it's up, because most people want them blown to hell. That's why that number is up. You know, the press doesn't want it. oh, you can't do that. The regular folks who know how horrible this drug traffic is, every time a boat is blown out of the water, they're giving him a standing O. That's why his numbers are up. Well, there would be all the counterargons to that. There are polls out there who would suggest they're not in favor of this military action towards the vessels, right?

41:20There would be those who say, why are we getting involved in this? I haven't seen that Yes, right. Harvard Harris came out yesterday and was overwhelming that the American public want to hold the drug cartels accountable. Overwhelming number. Yeah. Put aside the numbers for a second and the polls and everything else. I just as I've been saying, like I personally don't care that much about what happens to the narco terrorist drug traffickers who are bringing fentanyl to our country. and I don't think most people do. Now, when that video gets released and we see two guys hanging onto the board and they get hit with the double tap, might it pull on some heartstrings because we're not downright evil as Americans?

42:05It might. Do we understand all the pressures that the military is under and we don't wanna put our people in threat? I would much rather have a narco-terrorist dead than one of our soldiers break a finger. That's just me. Again, I don't think that makes me a dick. I think it makes me a decent American. So I don't think this is a losing thing for Trump. at all, and I think he is going to keep going. Of course, when things are going Trump's way, what do they have to do? They have two cards they can pull out. They can either pull out just the general state of fear card, right, we're gonna cancel elections and Hitler's on the way, or that he's racist, right?

42:39Like the racist is the easy one, and a certain set of people just keep drinking this shit, and it's hollowing them out on the inside, like drinking Drano, and they keep drinking it. Joy Behar. Can we just talk for a second about the blatant racism, though? What's the difference between Somalia and Norway? Hello? Yeah. I mean, it's so obvious that that is what it is. And he doesn't even try to cover it. Taller people? Yeah. He doesn't even try to cover it up anymore. No, he doesn't try it. I don't know if he tried to cover it up. Oh, yes. The only difference between Somalia and Norway is that in Somalia, it's black people and in Norway, it's white people.

43:18That's it. There are no cultural differences. There are no behavioral differences. There are no economic differences. There's no leisure differences or anything else. There's no differences in how they treat women or anything else, which I'm sure, Joy Behar, you're gonna take your next vacation in Somalia because you're not a racist. Do we have some images? Could we maybe look at an image of, well, you have an image of Somalia you could put up? Let's, here's just, we're doing this on the fly here. We're gonna work. All right, we're gonna get a back-to-back Well, you can choose, Joy, and you can vacation in Somalia right there in that pile of whatever's going on there.

43:59Or you can go to Norway. I'm not even gonna tell you which, you know what? Which one's which, Joy? Which one is Somalia and which one is Norway? You're gonna have to figure it out for yourself. It's just utter drivel, and we have had enough of it in America, which is why we are sending ICE to do the job that the previous administration did not do, which is get illegals out of the country. So here's a little compilation of ICE over the last few days, getting illegals out of Minnesota. And remember, for any part of this that you're watching where you're going, I don't like what's happening here or it seems a bit much, they're not taking anyone who's a legal citizen.

44:34They are taking people who are illegal, which contrary to what Lady Eyelashes thinks, if you are here illegally, you have broken the law.

44:53Erika Kirk:What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? Okay, so again, you have someone screaming, what's your name? Because there's like lawyers on the ground to make sure that the illegals get the stay. Look, nobody loves the optics. It's in some sense, it's similar to blowing up the double tap thing that you might see the video and go, ah, should we have done it? No one loves the optics of guys having to go into cities and grab people. I don't know about nobody, but like, I don't love the optics around it, but if they are getting illegals, how else are you going to do it?

45:30You know, one of the things that I always hear, even like the somewhat moderate liberals say, I'll give you one, Jason Kalanakis from the All In podcast, who's a decent guy and he's done this show and I've done his show. I like him a lot and he's more of a Biden-ish, you know, he's not like a complete loony lefty, but like one of the sort of moderate sort of gets it, doesn't get it guys. But I like him. He's a good human being. We have a great, he loves sci-fi. We have a great conversation about alien movies. Anyway, he's one of the ones that would be like, well, it's just, we don't like how you're doing it.

46:00I've heard him say that. We don't like how you're doing it. He said it to JD on stage at an event I was at in DC in terms of deportations. And it's like, how else would you like it to be done? Do you want people to show up with flowers? You want an ICE agent to show up with a bouquet of roses and get on his knee and propose as to whether you're going to leave the country. It can't be done another way. And again, you can't blame the people trying to clean it up. You should blame the people who created the mess in the first place. One of the guys trying to clean it up, or maybe the guy trying to clean it up, of course, is Tom Homan.

46:35And here he is basically dropping the hammer on moron Zamboni saying, no matter what you do in New York City, we are still going to enforce the law. Without a judicial warrant signed by a judge. ICE is legally allowed to lie to you, but you have the right to remain silent. If you're being detained, you may always ask, am I free to go, repeatedly, until they answer you. You are legally allowed to film ICE, as long as you do not interfere with an arrest. Your thoughts on that? We know the law better than anybody, and we're going to keep enforcing law in New York. We're there today. We're there right now doing operations.

47:09We'll be there tomorrow. We're going to keep doing what we're doing. We're arresting public safety threats every day. And because we're forced in the community, because Pete Place Lake, New York City is a sanctuary jurisdiction, when they force us in the community to find the public safety threat and national security threats, many times they're with others. Others that may not be a public safety threat, but they're in the country illegally. Well, guess what? They're coming too. Hey, I'm Dan Harris, host of the 10 % Happier podcast. When life gets a little rough, sometimes we feel this overwhelming urge to fix everything, which really is impossible.

47:42So I've got a new series coming up called Reset, where we're going to help you find simple, practical, surgical ways to reset key areas of your life. The lineup is incredible. We've got people like Gretchen Rubin, Laurie Santos, Atul Gawande, and The Daily Show's Josh Johnson. 10 % Happier with Dan Harris. Join the party wherever you get your podcasts. Educate these people all you want. We know the law, and we're going to keep doing what we're doing. Yeah, I mean, that's why I always say he is the guy that will play himself in the movie about him. Like, it's as simple as that. We are going to keep doing this.

48:16And I would say Zorhan over there is getting as close as you can to breaking federal law. There are several federal laws as to what you are allowed to do against federal laws, meaning if you are a public official and you are, you know, he's basically edging up as close to the line as you possibly can to stop ICE from doing its job. And this guy hasn't even been sworn in yet. Again, why is he doing these commercials right now before he's even been sworn in? How about do some commercials about the people of New York who are law-abiding citizens there? Oh, right, you have been doing some of those.

48:54You just want more of their money. And of course, what happens when these illegals get in here? They create all sorts of criminality and they leech off the system and bad things happen. This is interesting. Listen to this from Matt Van Swole on X. Oscar Solarzano, who stabbed a man on the Charlotte, North Carolina light rail on Friday, was just denied bail due to Irina's law. Oscar had multiple prior arrests for violent behavior and because of Irina's law, he will remain in prison under his trial. So leave this up for a second. So Irina, of course, is the woman who was killed in August. It didn't break the news till September.

49:31Who was killed by that crazy person who said something to the effect of, I got that white girl or something like that, stabbed her and she just bled out in cold blood on the Charlotte light rail. Then they passed a law, Arena's Law, which effectively eliminated cashless bail. So now when it happened again and somebody got stabbed by an illegal again, now the cashless bail is keeping that guy in jail. So things can slightly change for the better every now and again. Here's a bit more from Matt. The man stabbed in the chest by an illegal alien on the train in Charlotte, North Carolina, Kenyon Dobby.

50:03that's the man, he happens to be black, which is sort of an interesting flip on all these things, is in critical condition with a tube in his chest, pumping blood out of his lungs. According to authorities, Dobby was the only person who stood up and told the drunk illegal to stop screaming at riders, including an elderly woman on the train. For his efforts, he was knifed in the chest. I guess it's better off that it happened to me and not an older person. I wasn't trying to be a macho man, but what I won't allow is you to attack a random person for no reason, especially the elderly. Can we find out, is there a GoFundMe or a give, send, go or something because I will gladly donate money for this guy.

50:35Anything I can do when he's ready, I will have him on the show. I mean, like that's what a hero is. That's a true American and that's a hero. And that's someone who puts other people before themselves and wanted to make sure that someone else didn't get stabbed, that an elderly person didn't get stabbed by the drunk illegal. So who is, who, and shouldn't that be the lead story on MSNBC right now? But it's not. They will throw the black American hero under the bus. They will throw the black American hero under the bus because they put the illegal drunk, you know, would-be murderer above the black American hero.

51:16And that is why intersectionality makes you fucking retarded. There is a give, send, go for Kenyon Dobby. That's fantastic. We have an image of it. I'm gonna donate immediately after this. I'll throw in a thousand bucks right now. Maybe I'll do more, but at least a thousand bucks, I'll do it right after the show. God bless that guy. Like, that's what we need more of. And, you know, throwing money at something is like, in some ways it's the least you can do, but it's something, it's something. That guy's a freaking hero right there. We've got a bit more on some of Trump's policies and going into effect.

51:47On tips and overtime, there's a max reduction for tips is$25 ,000. So imagine if you are somebody who uses tips as part of your salary or to make your living, that will have an impact. The senior deduction, you have to be 65 years old. It phases out at$75 ,000. But again, for people who are saying gas prices, which are lower, but that food prices are higher, that it's hard for them, that might help as well. There's a no tax on car loan interest. Now, that can be helpful, but what might be even more helpful is what they announced last week, which is they're doing away with some of the EPA rules on these car and fuel mileage.

52:22That actually will help bring the cost of cars down probably even more. And then a child tax credit expansion. And that's very bipartisan. A lot of people like this. All right, so these are all good things. These are all things that will put more money in your pocket, give you more ability to do with your money what you see fit and take care of your family. It's not the government handing things out. It's tax cuts and tax benefits so you can do more. So I would say to kind of get this closer to the beginning of the show, it's like, Candace, when you say, well, you don't care who wins the midterms And when Tucker says he hates the Republicans even more than the Democrats, it's like, okay, well, what is it that you're actually trying to usher in?

53:02Why is it that I know you're on your quest, despite the French trying to murder you to unleash, to uncover the real killer of Charlie, but maybe you want to do a couple shows that are positive about what Trump is doing here and things that are good things that are happening in America. Otherwise, you're quite literally going to hand it to the communists. Like, is that what you want? Well, maybe it is. Uh, we'll have a Rubin report.locals.com community Q and a on the other side, but first balance of nature. Balance of nature's whole health system makes it easy to get a wide variety of whole foods and ingredients into any daily routine.

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54:57Well, his second term ended and Miami has now just elected a woman by the name of Eileen Higgins, who we showed you a video yesterday. She's denying, she won't even deny that she's a socialist. There are a hundred, she won, she won the election over this Republican, doesn't even matter who, by a decent margin, 10 points or something, but only 20 % of eligible voters voted. There are 174 ,000 registered voters in Miami proper, not Miami-Dade County, Miami. She got 22 ,000 votes and now she is the mayor. So Miami itself went blue for the first time in 30 years. Look, my hope is because Florida is so strong overall, and because we are a law and order state and all of the good things that I don't have to smack you over the head with you hearing me talk about it all the time, that she will not be able to do much damage.

55:53But if she reverses some of the policies as it pertains to homeless people or some of the policies in terms of crime and some of these other things, it could be bad. So I am not a fan of hers. I don't know enough to sit here and just rail on her endlessly, but she's a Democrat. So it's like, show me the money. Well, that's what they want her to do, but show me the effectiveness and we'll see what happens. Crafty Cat says, what is your favorite game to play when your family gets together? So my family, our yearly tradition always has been Trivial Pursuit, which we were doing as long as I, literally as long as I can remember, which is, you know, I'm sure most of you have played Trivial Pursuit, at least know it is.

56:33I mean, you got, you got to be pretty bright and they got all sorts of questions related to history and politics and sports and art and culture and all of those things. I think, isn't it the Bubble Boy in the Bubble Boy episode of Seinfeld? Isn't he playing Trivial Pursuit with the Bubble Boy? And it's the moops, not the moors, yeah. And yeah, and then we play some card games and Uno and that kind of stuff. And oh, and now that there's a younger generation, we've been big on apples to apples. And yes, it was Trivial Pursuit that George played with the Bubble Boy. Brian says, what are your thoughts on the Aussie ban on social media for youth under 16?

57:10And do you think it would work here? Yeah, you know, we should have covered this a little bit more. I talked about it a bit when I was in Australia and it was one of many big topics happening in Australia. They just passed it about a week ago. People knew it was coming down the pike, but they have banned social media for children under 16. Look, it brings up a lot of things. You can make absolutely the pure kind of libertarian arguments. What does this have to do with the government and the parents should be the one who ultimately decide and all of those things. And I'm very sympathetic to those arguments.

57:40Then there's the other arguments where it's like what's going on on social media and the two-way communication that happens between the world and your kid is so profoundly dangerous. And the way that doom scrolling and everything else is breaking brains that maybe if the government has any purpose to serve the public good, like maybe this is something that they could do. My general preference, look, the other part of this, of course, is that kids are smarter than adults, especially as it comes to innovative new technology. So if you think that the average 15-year-old isn't gonna figure out a way around this, or that many parents will help them figure out a way around it, or whatever it is, like the parents are gonna quite literally give the kid an iPad with their own sign-ins, and maybe that's a way they can track him.

58:20This is the great challenge of our time, in some sense, as parents. And I would say it's more than a generational. This is a civilizational challenge. What will our behavior be with the digital world? This is why I always reference Ready Player One. And by the way, I just interviewed one of the producers of Ready Player One, which we'll put up over the Christmas break. It was quite interesting. But this divide between digital world and our, let's say, carbon reality and how we are gonna negotiate all this. And I don't know, do you want the government coming in and saying, well, you're this age, you can't be on that?

58:54Or do you want it to be the responsibility of the parents? It is a great challenge. Look, we'll see. This is the beauty of having different countries do things differently and not just some giant global government. We'll see what happens in Australia and then maybe we can learn some of the lessons here in the States. Eurasian says, did you see if your old pal, Anna Kasparian, drank any copal while she was on Bill Maher's podcast? Do we have an image? Do we have an image of that? I think we've got an image. Yeah, Bill is drinking copal there. Wait, is the bottle? Yeah, the bottle. You can see the bottle right behind the gold sort of orb there or whatever.

59:27I think that's where he keeps the weed. Bill was drinking copal. he told me it is his it is officially his favorite tequila which i'm i'm so thrilled about and i love hearing the compliments on it we've made something so exquisite and elegant um my guess well first off if she knew it was mine my guess is she wouldn't drink it and i think if i saw correctly it looked like she was drinking something a little browner which was probably uh probably whiskey uh but i i texted bill yesterday after we did the show and i said man that was you at your best when he asked her in the most calm, not attacking, pleasant, you're at my house kind of way, you know, where could you wear that dress in the Middle East?

1:00:07And so, so simply using the Socratic method just disassembled her ridiculous logic. Like no matter how much she hates Israel and she has a weird obsession with the Jews and all that stuff. It's like, lady, you know, you want to wear that dress. You wear that dress in Tel Aviv. Try wearing that anywhere in the Arab world and we'll see, but she couldn't even... Hey, I'm Dan Harris, host of the 10 % Happier Podcast. With summer winding down, now is the perfect time to hit the reset button. So many of us get stuck in ruts at work, in our relationships, in our nervous system. We've got a special series where I'm going to be talking to psychologists, meditation teachers, even some comedians about how to get out of that rut, how to reset your life in lots of different super practical ways.

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1:01:28Why do we keep trying to explain politics as Nazis being on the right? So this has been an ongoing debate that people have had for a long time. And there is some legitimacy to it. And it also explains what the horseshoe theory of politics is. If you are a national socialist, which is what the Nazis were, the Nazis wanted very tight immigration issues. laws, right? Now the problem, you can have tight immigration laws and there's nothing wrong with that. And you should be able to define your borders and everything else. The problem is they had a huge problem with people that were in their country who were legal citizens, whether they were Jews or they were gypsies or they were gay or several other minorities.

1:02:10Okay. So there's one issue around immigration there, but they wanted strong, powerful government, right? They weren't that into free markets or anything else. Then you take what's happened with our current left, which now is obsessed with race and everything else. That kind of sounds a little Nazi-like too. So one of the things that people have been talking about on the horseshoe theory of politics, and I think it's partly why Tucker these days has way more in common and will say way nicer things to people on the left. He'll go after Ted Cruz as if he's the devil incarnate, but then he will have Anna Kasparian on or he will have Nick Fuentes on or some of these other people.

1:02:47And what that's showing you is the people on the right, like traditional right, who are into this thing, they want strong borders, right? And then they want government control over the economy, socialism. The people on the left, they want open borders, but they want government control over the economy. So they've sort of come around on things and they do then add the racial side. So were the Nazis really on the right? If the spectrum is basically left is control and right is freedom, That's the best way I can lay it out for you. The further right you go means, to me, the less government you want, the less control you want, the more you believe in the individual, right?

1:03:26That's why it's so funny when they call us all far right. Oh my God, I'm so far right. I'm so into freedom. The left is what wants control, but eventually those things kind of come around. I hope that made sense. We should dive into that a little bit more. Guys, let's talk about Cars for Kids for a minute. And I think we have a special surprise at the end of this ad, and then we'll have more questions on the other side. Cars for Kids, yeah. I know, you heard the jingle in your head the second I said it. That's not mind control, that's just effective marketing. Anyway, if you've got a car you're not using, don't let it sit and rot in the driveway.

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1:05:13Then we have a cousin's wedding and all sorts of stuff. But yes, we will light candles all eight nights. As for presents every night, like I don't really want the kids to have more stuff. We're really into magnet tiles right now. You guys know about magnet tiles, these magnetic. Can we get an image of magnet tiles? I'm really pressing, I'm really pushing you guys today. They're these great, you know, basically we had blocks when I was a kid, you had blocks. They were wooden blocks that you could build a house and then you could knock it down. Magnet tiles, they're plastic with magnets. So you can really build some super cool things.

1:05:41So we're really into that right now. and also I got them from the, or I think my parents got it actually, but from the Spidey and his friends, like his amazing friends, the younger version of it. They're really into Spider-Man and Rhino and Doc Ock and all that. These are magnet tiles. They're pretty great. You know what? You know what? In lieu of Christmas bonuses for you guys, I'm getting you all magnet tiles. Trust me. Yeah, Joseph's into it. Trust me, it's gonna be worth it. But yeah, we're not really asking people for any gifts. You know, three is a nice age where they love being outside.

1:06:14We got a little sand pit out there. They just don't need that much. The one thing you guys know I hate, I can't deal with plastic toys that makes electronic sounds. I like wood. You want wood to whack something, that's just fine. Or music, I can deal with music. Luke's really into this little electronic trumpet we got right now, but it doesn't sound electronic. It sounds like an actual trumpet. I just can't deal with the beeps and the bings and the dings and the... Yeah, okay. Jen says, what is your prediction for the next presidential election? Do you think that we can keep the crazies out of the White House for another decade?

1:06:46I don't know. Look, you know, I always say I'm usually right about things like directionally. I get, I think my track record on getting the big issues right is pretty damn good across the board. But my, you know, political predictions, you just never know, right? Like I'm gonna get things wrong on that. Nobody wants to be in that prediction game. Look, conventional wisdom right now is that the Republicans are gonna get blown out in the midterms. Trump will be a lame duck. They'll just be in exhaustion with all of this. They have three years basically to keep glazing over Newsom and that he'll be the next president.

1:07:21That's not my gut feeling. It's also why I think it's so important to fight for the right things that Trump and the Republicans are doing right now. Like maybe, guys, maybe we don't have to go down that path to hell right now. Like maybe 250, 250, that's what we're gonna be next year. Maybe we buck the trend and the Republicans do okay and continue to build on this incredible legacy. We are not gonna get a better cabinet than this. Like, this is where we're at, guys. Like, maybe, maybe. Chipster says, apparently Erica Kirk is an avid basketball player. You should get her on your show and have a little shoot-around contest.

1:07:57So I did not know that. I think, yeah, so I guess she was a ball player. That's probably college, right? Is Regis a college? Was she a college ball player? You know, it's interesting. I can't believe I did not know this about Charlie, especially because he was so tall. Charlie was a heck of a basketball player. There's some videos that went around after he was killed. We never played ball together. I really wish we would have. You know, he had a lot of back problems also. So I don't know how much he was playing in his last years. What a crazy thing to say. She played in high school and in college.

1:08:27I would love to do that. You know, we have not, a lot of people have asked, are we gonna try to get her on now that she's doing the publicity tour and everything else? My position has been kind of hands off on all of this. I haven't reached out to the turning point people to ask them to do anything or anything else. Like, they know where I am. I would love to sit down with her at some point. When it feels right, I think we will do it. But yes, I would love to do it here and we can shoot hoops after and see what happens. Because girls are allowed to like basketball and play in basketball. And recreationally, they can play against boys.

1:09:01But professionally, they should play against girls without penises. Elizabeth says, does David still laugh at your jokes? Oh, that's a good one. It's Elizabeth David Fakes. That's his burner name, I think. Um, it's funny, you know, we've been married over 10 years. We've been together 15 years. Like he knows all my jokes inside. He knows all my dad jokes. He knows all my silly stuff. Um, but it's still like, nothing makes me happier really outside of like doing, you know, playing with the kids and making them laugh. Like if I can still make him laugh, I'm always like, wow, I still got it, you know?

1:09:33And that's, I think that's what the nature of a good relationship is. You know, it's literally, I get no kick from champagne, but I get a kick out of you, Frank Sinatra. Like, if you're with someone that you get a kick out of, then you're good to go. You can do it forever. And a lot of times, like, I'll make jokes, and just because, you know, he'll be tired from the kids or whatever, sometimes he'll be like, he knows I said something funny. He'll be like, do I have to laugh at that one? And it's like, that's good enough. Just the acknowledgement that what I said might have been funny, that'll get me through the day.

1:10:03All right, this was an emotional rollercoaster. I think a fine program. I have nothing else to say. I'm going to enjoy some lunch. Tomorrow on the show, we've got my good friend Gad Saad. And who else is joining us? Oh, and Viva Freya. That's going to be a good one. That'll be tomorrow at Live at 11. We've got a post-game show in a few minutes, or no, 30 seconds, guys. RubenReport.Locals.com. See ya.

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