Even Press Shocked by How Dumb Dem Mayor Really Is - Adam Carolla & Dave Rubin's Reaction Is Perfect

14 May 2026 · 41 min · 15 chapters

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In short

Dave Rubin and Adam Carolla react to California politics and culture, focusing on Los Angeles/West Hollywood “decline,” Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf’s handling of a “rope in a tree” incident framed as racism/hate crime, and a broader critique of COVID-era misinformation and alleged intelligence/public health cover-ups about SARS-CoV-2’s origins.

Guest backgrounds

Dave Rubin is a libertarian-leaning commentator/host. Adam Carolla is a conservative media personality and comedian. They also reference public figures: Ron DeSantis (Florida governor), Ben Shapiro, Jillian Michaels, and libertarian podcaster Matt Cibb (Blaze).

Key claims

“Stay the course” is an incoherent campaign message; Oakland’s mayoral rhetoric about “intentions don’t matter” is irrational; COVID lab-origin concerns were suppressed; Fauci and intelligence analysts allegedly curated experts and hid conflicts of interest.

Notable examples

the Oakland rope/workout rings case; In-N-Out as a contrast to “stink town”; a whistleblower hearing about COVID cover-up; references to the Proximal Origin paper and BSEG/NIAID ties; tabletop exercise “Event 201.”

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Observations on Los Angeles

0:00 to 1:04

Adam and Dave share their thoughts on the current state of Los Angeles.

“I've tried a lot of seafood over the years, guys, and truly it's been hit or miss.”

Observations on Los Angeles

2:17 to 3:28

Adam and Dave share their thoughts on the current state of Los Angeles.

“Lordy, lordy, you know what I'm going to say.”

Political Commentary on Local Leadership

3:28 to 4:48

Discussion on the political narrative and leadership in California.

“I believe you because if you want to figure out if someone has gained weight, don't see them for a year.”

Humor and Social Commentary

4:48 to 6:18

Exploring humor in societal observations and local anecdotes.

“And then you went, hey, man, this doesn't look right.”

Racism and Public Perception

6:18 to 9:26

Dave discusses the implications of a controversial incident involving a workout set-up.

“But I was like, whatever you guys are doing.”

Accountability in Leadership

9:26 to 14:00

Critique on leadership decisions and accountability in urban governance.

“He hung rope hoops from the tree so he could pull himself and do chin-ups, and he made a system of hoops to hang.”

Discussion on Intentions and Racial Symbols

14:00 to 18:46

The hosts discuss the implications of intentions in the context of racial symbols and public perception.

“So if you made a loop on a piece of rope to pull a garage door down so that you could grip the rope better and pull the door down versus an old timey lynching, it's still the same thing, right?”

Reactions to Public Statements on Hate Crimes

18:46 to 22:26

The hosts react to a public statement regarding hate crimes and the symbolism of a rope.

“That is a privilege that so many of our African-American residents do not enjoy.”

Press Conference Reactions and COVID Cover-Up

22:26 to 26:12

The hosts reflect on the implications of a press conference discussing a rope incident and relate it to COVID origins.

“So hate is an energy that can be held not only by white people but by black people as well So for me, it really doesn't matter if it's a white person or a black person.”

COVID Lab Leak Discussion

28:00 to 29:10

Exploring the origins of the COVID pandemic and the implications of a potential lab leak.

“And he's just, it's three and a half minutes.”
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Fauci's Role and Accountability

29:10 to 31:30

Discussion on Dr. Fauci's involvement in the COVID response and allegations of misinformation.

“No Democrat showed up for this hearing, by the way.”

Public Perception and Pandemic Reactions

31:30 to 34:20

Reflecting on societal reactions and perceptions during the pandemic, including mask mandates.

“He basically said no, then he said next in the next sentence, and he used a double negative, so it was all very confusing.”

Fear and Control in Leadership

34:20 to 37:10

Analyzing how fear has been used as a tool for control during the pandemic.

“I remember the first day that I had to put on a mask to go to the supermarket, went to Whole Foods and Sherman Oaks.”

Critique of Political Rhetoric

37:10 to 41:20

Critiquing political figures and their changing narratives over time.

“President of BSG, there are a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year.”

Dining Plans with the Governor

42:00 to 42:20

The hosts discuss their upcoming dining plans with the Governor at a steak restaurant.

“We're going to a pretty swank restaurant with the Gov before.”
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Transcript

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1:46So here's my appearance with my good buddy Adam Carolla on his show. And you can also see Adam Carolla joining me, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Ben Shapiro, and Jillian Michaels in Miami on June 11th at the Fillmore. DaveRubin.com slash events. And tune in to Gutfeld! The number one show on cable news tomorrow night. Yours truly will be on. And thanks for tuning in. Thanks for tuning in. Tune in. Tell the friend. Tune in. Dave Rubin is in the studio. Good to see you, my friend. Adam, it is good to see you. I'm very happy to be here in a secure studio with you amongst your security guards and armed people because I've spent the last 24 hours in your fair city.

2:27Lordy, lordy, you know what I'm going to say. Something is rotten in stink town here and it's the urine and the poop and everything else. This place is going to high health. The thing that's funny is Karen Bass is running on stay the course, which is the weirdest argument ever. She should be running on I had a brain aneurysm, but now I'm better. Or I found Jesus Christ two weeks ago. But anything but stay the course, which is an insane angle to run on. If you live in this city and you are thinking that everything is fine and you're going to elect or reelect the lady who got – well, it's not that – you can't even blame her for this because it was Garcia or Garcetti before her.

3:14And it's just – it's been going on for a long time. Antonio Villarroca. But I got to tell you, like, in a weird way, I don't even mean this jokingly. You know my feelings about Florida and Cali and Flea and this place and everything else. It was worse. I mean it's worse in the 24 hours that I've been here than I – I haven't been here in about a year. 24 hours in West Hollywood. Well, yeah. It's bad. Well, look. And Hollywood, obviously. I believe you because if you want to figure out if someone has gained weight, don't see them for a year. If you see them every day, they put on nine ounces a day and you don't notice it at all.

3:50Go away for a year. Come back. You go, dude, you got fat. In this case, they're losing weight and walking slowly with a hunch. So it's slightly different, but same theoretical point. Yeah. So it's now, Andrew, we already broke down that commercial on this show, though, right? So but yeah, it was a funny stay the course commercial from. Well, you know what it is, is they have this they have sort of two angles. They have the I'm just getting started, but I got more work. Right. You always have work to do. And it's basically. It's basically, you know, Dave's doing a world class remod of his bathroom.

4:28Wait till you see this. I'm going to show you some pictures. Well, I'm not leaving once I get in there. You were pretty impressed. You saw it mid and we did some stuff. But if you'd walked in in the middle, this is my I'm just getting started argument, which is sort of the Karen Bass. It's the Democrat argument in California and Los Angeles. But if you walked in in the middle of the tile setting and the guy was just doing a freakishly bad job setting the tiles and the margins were all up and everything was cattywampus and he wasn't using spacers. And then you went, hey, man, this doesn't look right.

5:04And he went, I'm just getting started. Like you'd go, no, stop. Whatever it is you're doing, stop. Not I'm just getting started. And that's their argument. I don't understand. I mean, I genuinely don't understand. Is it just that there's enough rich people living in the hills here just behind their gates at this point that they've just conceded every other piece of the city and they think that the hills will never burn down? Is that what you think the calculation is? It's kind of turning into Mexico City. Like it's just super rich people with guards and gates and walls and they live in luxury up here and then you guys live in squalor down there.

5:43The only people who seem to be working are the people at In-N-Out. They're working and they're happy. Yes. We went there yesterday. They're the only working, happy people there. My guy, Joey, who's with me, he'd never been to In-N-Out before. So we walk into In-N-Out. He's very excited for his first In-N-Out. I haven't had it in a year or two. I'm very excited. And I tell the guy behind the counter, big smile on his face, young Latino guy. He's happy. Welcome to In-N-Out. Animal style, the whole thing. And I said to him, hey, my buddy here has never had In-N-Out before. You think I could get the whole crew, you guys, to sing a song for him?

6:11And he's like, maybe. And he smiles and he starts walking away as if he was going to ask the whole crew to sing. Whatever they're doing in there. I was like, no, it's not necessary. But I was like, whatever you guys are doing. That's right. That is what you people have left here. In and out. And speaking of that, the only in and out franchise to ever move since 1949 moved out of Oakland, California. So whatever they're doing there in Oakland, they're doing wrong. Oh, reminds me of the greatest clip that we've all forgotten about. which was awesome. And I don't think people fully understand the implications or what things mean, which is sort of like what I'm saying is, is women, if you are going on a date with a guy and I've said this a million times, if a woman's says, you know, guy comes over to pick them up on their first date.

7:11And the woman says, oh, come in, come in, just wait here. Just let me finish putting on my lipstick. I'll be with you in a second. And she goes off into the bathroom. And her dog comes like sniffing around the guy to sort of say hi. And the guy like kicks him away. And the woman sees it in the mirror from the bathroom, what the guy did. It's over. And then people go, maybe he's got a great sense of humor. Maybe he's a very generous guy. Maybe he's a loving guy. Maybe he's a beautiful lover. one thing one thing one thing and we're done and it's like when I it's like if you drive around town and you see the guy that's got the dumpster for a car like just wrappers fast food garbage on the dash newspapers in the back that person's nuts and then someone will go well all you've seen is their car I go I don't need to see anything else than that and I know what the guy's apartment looks like.

8:11I know what he's like. I know what his hygiene is. I just need the one thing. And I don't think people do that enough with like the politicians. Like the mayor of Oakland, Libby Schaff or whatever her name was. This is going back some years. Maybe five, six years. She was the mayor of Oakland. This is before the A's left and before the Warriors left and before In-N-Out left. We decided, by the way, we signed our infinite wisdom. We could fix all this. We just had a bunch of women in charge and then we just fix every city with compassion. Well, because the future is female. The future is female.

8:51It does not matter if you're qualified. Right. So there was a story. Now you have to think about how this woman's brain works and then you would apply it to everything. But just like the guy with the trashed car, I would apply that to their life globally. This clip is from when, Andrew, she's given a presser because, and you may remember this story, Dave, 2023. Okay. A guy, a black man, who seemed a little crazy, but a black man set up a workout sort of jungle gym at the park. He hung rope hoops from the tree so he could pull himself and do chin-ups, and he made a system of hoops to hang. I can tell this is going to end well.

9:40Yeah, and he just used it in the park. He didn't seem like he had enough for an Equinox membership, but he got his kind of prison work out at the park in Oakland, which is fine. And then some white chick spotted the rope and, of course, had to say something to somebody. And then there was a big kerfuffle, sort of like every race hoax there is. Bubba Watson, this noose in the paddock to the racetrack or whatever. Wallace? Is it Bubba Wallace? Watson? Anyway, the point is Bubba. We'll do the Bubba math. So the point is they had to report it. Then they had to make a big deal out of it. And then the black dude who hung the rope went, I did that.

10:24I use it to work out. That's it. End of story. But they're like, no, we're not done calling. Remember, our theme is our society is horribly racist. So this is an opportunity. Is the implication that he was trying to lynch himself? Or he set it up. He was setting up his own lynching one day, I suppose. Well, she gives the presser. and she basically says, look, I'm going to get the DOJ involved. We're going to look at this as a hate crime. And then some woman in the audience goes, well, I think we already have context because that guy who came on before, the black guy said he did it. So what are we doing here?

11:10And she's like, doesn't matter what the context is. And then I thought, oh my God, that is chick think. That is insane chick think. But it's also you can't govern with that kind of thinking. That's Nithya Raman blaming Toyota for catalytic convert. Like, baby, your brain is broken. And we can't have you making decisions, anything critical because you've shown your inability to think. What have any of these people done that is good? That's the interesting thing. To me, if I was Spencer Pratt's doing a hell of a job, obviously, I have no idea. I mean, do you think there's any chance he can win just numbers wise?

11:46It probably doesn't happen, right? Like he seems to me, he's getting national coverage. That's great. And we all kind of love what's going on here. And those AI videos are amazing. I just don't know enough about the LA electorate anymore. And if there's enough sane people here anymore. But if I was him, I would just turn to her. He's doing a great job. But if I had one little piece of advice, it would turn to her and say, what are you good at? Yeah. Oh, well. She organizes communities. What would she say? I'm a people person. I'm a caring person. I'm a mother. I get communities, marginalized communities, and I bring them together and I give them a seat at the table so that we can all have justice and we can all have pride.

12:24And that's nice to hear. You know, that's nice. But that would be the point. Like, is anyone's life better? Is anything safer? Is anything cleaner? Are the schools better? Are the streets safer? Like you could go through the laundry list. Are businesses coming here? Which way are people going? And we all know they're going out. Right. You know, last night, you know me, I like to, when I come to town, I like to have dinner with all my old friends and do things. And I always ask people where they are and what's going on. I was literally last night, it's about four o 'clock. I'm like, what am I doing for dinner tonight?

12:56None of my friends are here anymore. Yeah, they've all cleared out. Everyone's gone. Yeah. Everyone's gone. You, Drew, Larry Elder, David Zucker. That's it. David Zucker. All right, so here it is. The audio is a little weird, but first off. I like this guy already. The black guy who put the rings up just gets done saying, I put the rings up. And now Libby, the mayor of Oakland, which is now destroyed. This is three years ago, has to give her rationale. With that, if you have any questions. Ma 'am. Ma 'am. Ma 'am. We've, on several lists, I know have been out to the park and interviewed a gentleman, an African American gentleman, who says this was absolutely, you know, you said intentions don't matter, but he said the intentions were strictly to create this rope system.

13:43He showed us another one that's still in the tree. He showed us videos of them using it in that manner. I mean, don't the intentions matter if it was just strictly meant to be a, so he said they've been up there for months. Listen, the intentions will matter with regard to whether or not this is prosecuted as a hate crime, but intentions don't matter. Hold on a second. Intentions don't matter. So if you made a loop on a piece of rope to pull a garage door down so that you could grip the rope better and pull the door down versus an old timey lynching, it's still the same thing, right? Adam, you know, I'm a simple man.

14:23And maybe I'm missing part of this. Who are they accusing of a crime here? If he said he set it up and what was the crime other than maybe he set up ropes without a permit? He put the ropes up, but his intentions don't matter because those ropes still could have been taken as offensive and a hate crime to others. And that's why I'm here to save those people who may have seen twine in a tree. You have to understand, I live in a functional place now. So a lot of this, it's hard to get through to my brain because it's, that's what's going on here. Right. I'm, you're, I'm diving right back into the mire and the muck.

15:00So you're telling me that that lady was accusing the man who set up the rope so he could work out of a, of a hate crime against himself. Yes. So it's, it's in honor of other people. Let me see if I can tell you this. By the way, here's where my brain works. I said, I think this thing's about six years old. And then he wrote 2023 and I was like, huh, that's so new. June, 2020, six years old. Okay. Anyway, so let me explain. I'll give you context in terms of the intentions don't matter. Let's just say your maid came in. Okay. And your maid was changing the pillowcase, the white pillowcase on your pillow.

15:44and just as she did, you opened the sliding glass door and a wind blew in and it landed on her head, giving her the appearance of a Klans person. This did happen once. Continue. That would still be a racial attack is what I'm saying because intentions don't matter. Yes, she was just trying to change the pillowcase, but she donned the hood. But in this case, that woman wanted him to go to jail for this? I don't know. Let's hear her out. Remember, she's a hero and she's going to save black people. OK, listen, the intentions will matter with regard to whether or not this is prosecuted as a hate crime.

16:23But intentions don't matter when it comes to terrorizing the public. These symbols are symbols of racial violence. And it's incumbent on all of us to have that sensitivity, to have that knowledge. And that is why I've directed our staff to remove any such symbol of hatred, regardless of the intention of what put it there. What a privilege for those of us that don't feel complete fear and terror when we see a rope in the tree. That is a privilege that so many of our advocates. All right, hold on. First off, this is weird cause play, weird chick. First off, all roads lead to narcissism, right? She's so much better.

17:09She's better because we don't understand the horror you see when you see a rope in a tree. So I guess if your great-great-great-grandmother was a witch and you walked past a well, I guess that would strike terror. You know, having walked through Hollywood today where it's just a zombie apocalypse of drug addicts and homeless people, If I had seen a couple of homeless people with some ropes climbing on trees or whatever, I would have thought it was refreshing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like they're all hunched over because of the meth or whatever. So it's like, oh, yeah, you're hanging on a rope.

17:43That's the best way to straighten out your back, by the way. I just so she's really against health here more than anything else. The point is, is the poor black guy who hung up his workout rings, they sawed him down and threw him away. By the way, whatever that costs the taxpayers. So she's against this. I just got to hear. Did he go to jail? What happened to this guy? She's not going after the guy. She's going after racism in general, which is she's going to end. Did she jail racism? Let's see. I don't know. But intentions don't matter. They don't. When it comes to terrorizing the public. These symbols are symbols of racial violence.

18:23And it's incumbent on all of us to have that sensitivity, to have that knowledge. And that is why I've directed our staff to remove any such symbol of hatred, regardless of the intention of what put it there. What a privilege for those of us that don't feel complete fear and terror when we see a rope in a tree. That is a privilege that so many of our African-American residents do not enjoy. And this is a moment that we must be cognizant of that reality. We have got to stop terrorizing our black and brown citizens. And as white people, we have to become knowledgeable and educated about the impacts of our actions, whether they are well-intentioned or not.

19:14Hold on a second. I always wonder about who are the people in the press? You know, no one. First off, she should have been hit by a chair by now. and by the way I'm talking about by her own staff like we need to shut this bitch up but also can anyone raise your hand and go what the f*** are you talking about nobody knows what you're talking about this is a workout rope by the way gyms used to hang ropes and kids would climb up them was that a hate crime in junior high was that a hate crime we used to have that in elementary school and if you could get high enough you could put a little post-it note up there oh really Yeah, you'd usually put a racial comment up there.

19:53It was called a hate climb back then. Oh, that's good. That's good. That was good. I mean, this is, you know, my friend, I'm sure you know him, Gad Sad. Sure. You know Gad, right? You know, his book came out yesterday, Suicidal Empathy, which I'm sure is going to be the number one book of the year. I hope so. This is maybe the best example of that that I've ever seen. I'm going to send this to him after. This is incredible. And it's also an inability to think. And also it's an inability to hear yourself because you don't know what you sound like. But wait, I want to hear a little more of her. And then tell me what she went on to.

20:25By the way, these people always go on to nothing. And at some point, Harvard gives them a job. It's just got to be awesome. It is also against regulations to put anything in public trees, regardless of your intention. Hold on. By the way, Camp of Winnebago on the lawn of the public library and deal math. They don't have any problem with that. hang some rope for a workout at a park issue. However, that was the only sane thing she said. You do need maybe a permit to put the rope in the tree. I'll go with her on that, but you're right. These are the same people that if you cook meth next to the school, will tell you, oh, you should be a little closer to the school.

21:02Did she have any more? All right. I didn't say that there was malicious intent behind it. I said the symbolism of the rope hanging in the tree is malicious. By the way, hold on. So this is 2020, so we got a guy wearing a mask, except for it's to hide his double chin because his mouth and nose are fully exposed. So she's got no mask. Libby's got no mask. Then this doofus has a mask, but he pulls it down to talk. And now we're having a press conference about a rope in a tree that a black guy put there so he could do chin-ups. And this is why your f***ing city is broke, by the way. Right. All right, let's see if there's any more.

21:48Of the intent. Exactly what the mayor said. It's evil and it symbolizes hatred. And that's not what Oakland is and that's not what Oakland Parks is. It's evil. Yes, the Oakland Police Department has turned over the evidence to the FBI. We have to start with the assumption that these are hate crimes. We cannot hold on why why do you have to start the assumption the guy hung the rope just told he was there to do chin-ups They've turned it over to the FBI everybody But that's one thing that we have to know that hate is hate Oh my in my this is a black guy hung So hate is an energy that can be held not only by white people but by black people as well So for me, it really doesn't matter if it's a white person or a black person.

22:42I'm assuming that it's a white person, but we don't know that for sure. But I feel that just our city and where we are now in our history, we have to make sure that we send definitive messages out to everybody. He's got a mask around his chin, too. This is not the type of future that we want to promote. All right. You can look at it and see if there's any more in saying it. If she speaks again, I got to hear her. Adam, do you have Venmo? You owe me. I'm going to Venmo you$1 ,500 right now. I want you to get on a plane. First class. Come to Florida. It's enough of this. This is her and Kamala, by the way.

23:19Oh. Well, I will be in Florida with you and DeSantis. That's right. Ben Shapiro and Jillian Michaels. And we'll be at the Fillmore in Miami Beach. And that'll be June 11th. We're doing basically a live podcast there, right? I'm not even going to tell you what we're doing. We're just going to show up. They're going to make some announcements on the PA and we're going to throw you out there and see what happens. Yeah, we're going to do some stand up. We're going to do I'm going to write a live show that day. So we'll do a podcast thing. We'll do some giveaways. We got tequila for the people. We'll have a little sit down with DeSantis.

23:54Really, the whole idea of this was, you know, DeSantis is wrapping up the second term now. He's, you know, he's got just basically a couple of months left and he's done such an incredible job. I mean, literally, you know, my life completely changed because this guy made that state the archetype of freedom in the country. I wanted to celebrate that. The Fillmore. Have you done the Fillmore before? It's a freaking. I don't think so. Oh, Bill Maher did his last HBO special there. It's an awesome, awesome theater. And I just want it to be a celebration of Florida and freedom. And, you know, it's a little bit before our big 250th birthday on July 4th and all that good stuff.

24:27And just get some of my friends and have just, it's just going to be fun. We're going to have a dinner? Yeah, and I'm going to take you out to dinner with the Gov. And guess what, Adam? I'm going to split a potato with the richest guy at that table. You are not splitting a potato. No, that's it. Who has the highest net worth at that table? We'll probably get some primo people in there. All right, we're splitting a spud. It's at a very fancy steak place, and you are having your own potato. You know what? I'm going to seat you at a separate table just to make sure. With my own potato table? Yes, you are going to just, you take this guy out to dinner.

24:56Who did I split that potato with? David Sachs. The man is a billionaire. I split a potato with a billionaire. He's now our czar of cryptocurrency or whatever. Oh, that's right. But he was a major VC guy. It was before he took the job in the administration. I sit you guys down and Prager's there and Sage and was Larry Elder there and a few other people. Everyone, get whatever you want. Enjoy. It's on me. You turn to a billionaire. Will you split a potato with me? I just can't. I can't stop with this one. It's a good one. You know, Drew brought it up yesterday on his show that that happened because he was there too.

25:29And he said, you know, it perfectly explains Adam and it perfectly explains the mind of a billionaire. A billionaire gets to be a billionaire by doing some stuff like that, even if he's not paying for it. And Adam Carolla, you are a salt of the earth guy who doesn't want a potato to go to waste. At the steakhouse, the potatoes come in at like three pounds and a half will do it. And I'm not throwing that other half away. But I just love that you either didn't know who he was or didn't or just had never met before or whatever. And you just that the fact that it was the billionaire. I had a I knew who he was.

26:06But my feeling is half a potatoes, half a potato. At the end of the day. At the end of the day. Yeah. Here's the other thing that's been going on, which I'm interested in, which is a guy, a whistleblower just got in front of Congress. Well, not Congress because the Democrats don't show up, but half of them. And start talking about the COVID cover up, which is remembered a few years ago. Remember Libby Schaaf was complaining about racism and the notion of the origin of COVID. COVID would come up and some people would say it was from a wet market. And then someone would say it's from a lab. And then you'd be called a racist and shouted down and have every expert on CNN tell you why you were wrong.

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26:51Guess what? Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, everybody. surprise surprise about COVID as it turns out the thing you got yelled at if you just want in terms of the things CNN yelled at you the loudest about or progressives yelled at you loudest about or whatever Biden said or whatever anybody said I lab origin would be up there masks of course vaccines whatever it is that CNN said was wrong challenge me find me something they were correct about. I'm just writing a laptop, very fine people. We could do it all day long. Right. But I'm just talking about in the realm of COVID, everything they got was wrong.

27:32So remember, it didn't come from a lab in China, except for I knew it came from a lab in China, and I'm in North Hollywood. How the f*** did I know that? Because it made sense that it came from a lab in China. And eventually, by the way, if you read the tea leaves, if you realize everything they yelled about about, they were wrong about, then this is just one more thing that we're going to be wrong about. But we have the whistleblower, which is James Erdman III, I guess. And he was a FBI guy, I think. And he's just, it's three and a half minutes. So this breaking news, go ahead. Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident.

28:19Motives are difficult to define given the scope of the DIGS review. Intentional or not, the IC's actions resulted in a cover-up, wasted resources, and a failure to properly inform policymakers. Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization mRNA products being mandated by the former administration. The guy with the beard and mustache there, I know that guy. That's Matt Cibb from Blaze. Oh, in the back? Yeah, I don't know if he's still on Blaze, but that's Matt.

29:03That's interesting. He's a big libertarian podcaster. I have also the face on the other guy. He's got to look like that guy just broke the wind. All right. No Democrat showed up for this hearing, by the way. Why not? I thought you guys were about science. Weren't we about science? We embraced science, right? They mean their science. No, no, no, no. I just love the fact that you get to be wrong about something for five years. And then at some point you just boycott when someone is right. By the way, I sent a tweet out with this and I just said, look, you guys were wrong about everything. And I don't expect an apology.

29:40but next time don't act so sure yourself about stuff you don't know about but don't you think they would just do it all over again oh yeah that i don't even mean the like we have much better people in government right now so bobby obviously and jay baddichari and we have much better people at the nih level and all that stuff so i don't think they would do anything the way that you know the previous people did but don't you think i think literally 98 of people would behave exactly the same way as they did the first time. They didn't learn a thing. Dr. Fauci's role in the cover-up was intentional.

30:11Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health officials, and scientists. This included some of the authors of the paper, The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2, and other public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years. Some of the scientists were part of the Biological Sciences Experts Group, or the BSEG, an office of Director of National Intelligence Advisory Body, whose members often received considerable funding from NIAID and public health agencies.

30:55The BSEG scientist influenced national laboratory, WMD research, policy decisions, finished analysis, and other intelligence matters, creating misaligned incentives and conflicts of interest. So remember, Rand Paul had Fauci up there five years ago, and he was basically saying, this is gain of function. It came from a lab, and this was on your watch, and you guys were experimenting with this stuff. And Fauci, he was kind of doing a wordplay with gain of function and trying to get out of it. Fauci lied. He basically said no, then he said next in the next sentence, and he used a double negative, so it was all very confusing.

31:36Right. Yes. Your hero, remember the guy was on the candle? Fauci? The St. Fauci candle? Man, why did I buy all those candles? I can't move them now. They're just sitting in my garage. Yeah. Remember when they loved Michael Avenatti? Have you seen that compilation clip of all of the mainstream? I love it. I love watching the ladies from The View fawn. What is it, Ana Navarro? She's like, oh, my God, he's going to be president. I love him so much. Do you ever get tired of being wrong, I guess is what I'm saying. Fauci is corrupt. He was corrupted. I told all you guys this a long, long time ago. They received funding from NIAID and other agencies for vaccine research.

32:21USAID's PREDICT project, the Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. It even worked with Chinese scientists on coronavirus and other pathogen studies pursuing vaccines. There was no oversight monitoring how this web of relationships influenced research, policy, and public health in any holistic way for over 20 years. In fact, several of the BSEG scientists helped Dr. Fauci rewrite definitions of gain of function in 2015 to lift a funding pause on dangerous research. Still others participated in planning event 201 in 2019. This was a coronavirus pandemic tabletop exercise, curiously similar to the events that played out during the COVID-19 pandemic.

33:07And it was attended by Dr. Fauci and individuals with IC ties like former D &I Avril Haines. And by the way, you can tell when someone's lying, when they know something that's not knowable. That's how you're lying. It's like they all knew ivermectin didn't work. How do you know ivermectin doesn't work, Anderson Cooper? You never heard of ivermectin before, and you're not a doctor. So when people are agnostic about things, they're telling the truth, and sort of micro and macro. Like when someone goes, I don't know, have you seen Steve? And you go, no, who's Steve? That usually means whatever. But they go, he's a liar.

33:58Screw Steve. Don't believe what he says. You know what I mean? Like if someone just went, look, maybe it came from a pangolin. Maybe it came from a lab. How would we know? China's not going to tell us. And we don't have a way to figure that out. It's going to take a while. But you knew it came from a wet market that was next to a lap. So how do you know that? Well, you don't know it. And that's how I know you're lying. I remember the first day that I had to put on a mask to go to the supermarket, went to Whole Foods and Sherman Oaks. And I remember thinking when I put the mask on for the first time, how stupid it all was.

34:32Because it didn't, because I was breathing, obviously, out of the top and out of the bottom. The stuff that we all know now. But going in there and that, you know, they were letting, I don't know, six people in at a time. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. And that literally we came home and people were, we didn't do it, but people were spraying their, the, the paper bag, the paper bag that they put the food in. They were spraying it down with aerosol and everything else. Like the level of stupidity across the board in the, you know, at a restaurant, when you're walking to the table. Howard Stern quarantined.

35:03He's still in a mask somewhere. I know. He quarantined his equipment in a box for like two weeks. You know, I did a show with my hero. I wish he was still alive, Larry King. And his health was failing at the end before COVID. And he did a show, and I don't think this is up anywhere, because it was before we connected live, but his guys were in a hazmat suit behind him. Literally, like the nuclear bomb had fallen. They had the yellow thing right out of Outbreak. Oh, sure, yeah. And they were putting makeup on him. What did we do? Fear. We became very fear-based. Fear is a huge problem. People don't know how destructive it is.

35:46And leaders use safety to control everybody. This guy, Justin Pearson, that guy's the greatest because he's turned into Malcolm XXX, which I like it when guys turn. Like, that was my thing with Kaepernick. If you saw Kaepernick out of college, he looked like a Syrian cab driver. Right. And then all of a sudden, super fro and leather jacket and D.L. Hughley's that way. Like, I like when these guys, it's weird when it happens later. Right. Well, they also, it's not just the hair. They change their affect. They change the speech patterns. Right. But look, I'm Italian. Right. So it'd be like somewhere like three years ago, Adam started dressing like a gondolier and speaking with a thick accent.

36:33I'm a Mario. Hey, hey, Luigi. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey. Hey, you said the chicken parmesan. I'm not trying to jump. I'm a Koopa Troopa. What if I just started? You go, Adam's a f***ing dick. He's insane. I'd like that, actually, because that was fun. Well, I could do that for the next hour. So this is - Look at this guy. We just whacked Justin Pearson together first, and we've all seen, you know, Jasmine Crockett and everyone else do this. I don't know why they're not humiliated. as if there's no videotape exists of them. Right, like look at him, young, sharp, good-looking guy, well-dressed. Short haircut, clean, articulate.

37:10Come on. All right, here's the first version. It's a nice Italian suit. President of BSG, there are a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year. One has to do with representation. How can we represent all voices in a conversation? I wanted to do this by partnering with organizations from the Putin Democrats to the Putin Republicans.

37:58It is this movement that's going to change this country. It is this movement. In this moment in time. By the way, I need black people behind me. Because every time I go, here's what I want to do, three white people go, I don't think that's going to work. You can't gin up white people that way. No. You just can't. But you know what he's doing? Remember Coming to America? He's doing Arsenio Hall as the preacher. Yeah. Can you guys play some of that? Or is that copyright or something? Can you get five seconds of that? Hold on. I'll play five seconds of this. Remember, this is him. This is the old version of him.

38:31To the Boone Republicans, I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices, voices that may be more liberal or more conservative in order that we can reach a point of sort of the radical middle. What are these people doing? Who's falling for? But again, it's all connected. All this stuff is always connected. Well, it's all the same people who buy the same crazy shit. And that's how I know they're lying, because if they were being intellectually honest, then you'd go, what do you think about Joe Biden? You go, OK, I voted for Joe Biden. And then you'd go, what about Hunter Biden's laptop?

39:09And they go, oh, well, that's real. And then you go, what about COVID? And they go, well, I believe COVID's real. What about masks? You don't need to wear a mask. What's a paper mask going to do? Like you'd find some back and some forth like Republicans do. They argue about Israel and they fight about tariffs. And you go, who's right, who's wrong? Well, at least they're being intellectually honest because they're having an argument. You guys, the guys on the left were all lockstep on everything COVID and nobody ever raised their hand and went, well, she probably came from a lab, right? No, no.

39:45They're all lockstep on Biden's cognitive abilities. They're all lockstep on Hunter Biden. And all the stuff, they're all locked in on. And that means they're lying because they would be saying, no, I don't think that's true, but I agree with you on this other stuff. Well, this is what people on the internet, they're always saying they're a bunch of theater kids. And that's kind of what they are. They all love the performative part of this. You know, when I was on tour with Jordan Peterson, Jordan was a clinical psychologist for decades. He was a professor for decades at Harvard and University of Toronto and other places.

40:19he was not a performer in any way. But what I was always most amazed by, beyond obviously like the crazy intellect and the stuff that he was saying, was he would stalk the stage, like some comics do the stalk back and forth. You can picture like Richard Lewis kind of bouncing. And he became a performer, but it was only because it was an extension of him doing something that was true. These guys do the reverse of that. They perform while they're extending something that's nonsensical. He doesn't believe any of that. And you're right. Like all the people behind him and everyone's, they're all having a fever dream together.

40:52Right. And, and it's like, this is all nonsense, but they walk away like, boy, well, we were yelling, we were yelling an awful lot. And also to what end? Like, what's the plan? What's the policy? How are you helping the black community? What is working? What would help the black community is dads stay, have intact families, raise the kid. It's all just kind of diet and exercise stuff. Lower taxes. Yeah. It's just real basic stuff. And statistically, go to high school, graduate high school, wait to have a family until after your marriage. You know, real normal, basic stuff. But that would, by the way, that's not for the black community.

41:31It's hard to yell all that. The Fillmore Miami, man, June 11th. It's going to be a cavalcade of who is who. DeSantis and Shapiro and Jillian Michaels, I'll be there. I might make you eat a potato on stage. I'm eating a whole potato. So where do we go? DaveRubin.com slash events. And will you, if people buy the meet and greet tickets, you'll shake a few hands? By the way, I'm spelling meat, M-E-A-T, because you're buying me a tomahawk before. We're going to a pretty swank restaurant with the Gov before. It is a steak joint, but I'll cook you. I know you like the smoked meats. Yeah, I'll be there.

42:17Thank you.

From the publisher

Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" shares a DM clip of his appearance on "The Adam Carolla Show" where he and Adam Carolla discuss the Democrat Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf pursuing a hate crime investigation, even after a black man already admitted that the ropes perceived as nooses were exercise workout ropes; the collapse of Los Angeles under Karen Bass and the rising homelessness, crime, and urban decay in Hollywood; the viral Spencer Pratt mayoral campaign and why outsider candidates are gaining support as businesses and residents flee California; new CIA whistleblower testimony accusing Anthony Fauci and intelligence officials of covering up the COVID lab leak theory and misleading the public during the pandemic; Democrat Justin Pearson's hilarious code switching and Black Panther makeover; and much more.

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