In short
Glenn Beck and Dave Rubin discuss U.S. political realignment, threats to Western civilization, and the need for unity across ideological lines; they also touch on Beck’s move to Florida, his broadcasting/Blaze future, philanthropy goals, his memorabilia museum, and looming risks from social media and AI.
Guests
Glenn Beck (host; conservative media figure; founded/ran GBTV/TheBlaze; long-time talk-radio and TV broadcaster; in recovery from alcoholism; says he’s humbled by mistakes and guided by faith and marriage). Dave Rubin (host/guest; former liberal commentator turned right-leaning; co-hosts Rubin’s show; described as “moderate liberal” by Beck).
Key claims
Leftist groups (communists/socialists/anarchists/Islamists) share a revolutionary goal to destroy the West; Democrats are being “eaten” from within; anti-Semitism and anti-Israel confusion are linked to Marxism and “forever war” logic. Social media and AI will worsen apathy and destabilize reality (e.g., deepfakes). Beck argues Israel’s survival is about defending itself, not exporting war.
Notable examples
Beck cites “Mamdani” (as a poster child), Minneapolis violence, Jordan Peterson’s “when does the left go too far?” and Egypt rejecting pro-Palestine protesters; he also references his Orson Welles collection, the Orson Welles typewriter/script/camera, and the Roe v. Wade case papers.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussing Texas vs. Florida
0:00 to 1:04
Dave and Glenn compare Texas and Florida, focusing on governance and cultural differences.
“I've tried a lot of seafood over the years, guys, and truly it's been hit or miss.”
Discussing Texas vs. Florida
2:12 to 4:33
Dave and Glenn compare Texas and Florida, focusing on governance and cultural differences.
“I mean, we only met, my guess is it was probably late 2016, early 2017.”
The Future of Texas
4:33 to 6:49
They explore concerns about Texas losing its identity and the implications of transplants from California.
“But Florida does seem to be doing it in a better way than Texas is doing it right now.”
Glenn's Move to Florida
6:49 to 9:50
Glenn shares his decision to move to Florida while maintaining connections in Texas.
“that because when things are going right, people do take their foot off the gas, that it's part of the human condition that you don't then relentlessly run around defending all the good stuff?”
Glenn's Broadcasting Career Change
9:50 to 14:00
Glenn discusses his upcoming career changes as he prepares for major disruptions in his broadcasting approach.
“And I love, you know, the one thing I miss about New York is the dynamic culture of all of the, you know, big brains just hanging out and talking and having dinner and everything else.”
Disrupting the Norm
14:00 to 14:20
Exploring personal changes and disruptions in life after children grow up.
“How do you figure out, how do you figure out what that right now is?”
Philanthropic Goals
14:47 to 16:54
Discussing the shift towards philanthropy and personal goals beyond material wealth.
“You know, we should be living in a 400 square foot apartment.”
The Coming Storms
16:54 to 19:29
Glenn Beck shares his insights on political dangers and societal changes ahead.
“a lot of these things, particularly as it pertained to what was going to happen to mainstream media and everything else.”
The Intersectional Dilemma
19:29 to 21:44
Debating the complexities of intersectionality and its implications in current politics.
“The reason why you're not seeing any pushback from people like Schumer and everything else is they're terrified of these guys.”
The Fragility of Alliances
21:44 to 23:10
Discussing the precarious alliances within political movements and their eventual downfall.
“Remember when they all came and they were going to protest for Palestine?”
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Redemption and Realism
23:10 to 28:00
Glenn Beck reflects on his journey of redemption and a realistic outlook on life.
“We will see it in our own life where the communists will knife the the Islamists and the Islamists will kill the homosexual lobby.”
The Role of a Spouse in Success
28:00 to 29:23
Explore the importance of having a supportive spouse in personal and professional life.
“I just don't think you make it without a spouse that is rock solid, rock solid.”
Transitioning to Public Engagement
29:23 to 30:48
Discuss the journey of involving family in public and philanthropic efforts.
“She was like, I will take care of keeping our family safe, you know, and away from all the craziness of what you do.”
Collecting Historical Memorabilia
30:48 to 31:54
Delve into the significance of collecting history and the personal stories behind items.
“And I've seen it with you guys, although she does let you drive that.”
Collecting Historical Memorabilia
32:03 to 32:18
Delve into the significance of collecting history and the personal stories behind items.
“I've lost 75 pounds in 20 months with GLP-1s, plus diet and exercise.”
Stories Behind the Memorabilia
32:34 to 35:53
Hear fascinating anecdotes about historical artifacts and their significance.
“So I think one of my favorite episodes of the show I ever did, we did at Blaze Studios, and you just, I said to you, bring whatever you want.”
Political Confusion and Support for Israel
35:53 to 42:09
Examine the complexities of political opinions surrounding Israel and its conflicts.
“I've got his typewriter where, you know, he took Mankiewicz's name off of Citizen Kane.”
Understanding Anti-Semitism and Global Threats
42:09 to 48:16
Explore the nuances of anti-Semitism and the broader implications for Western civilization.
“You know, they control the world bullcrap.”
Understanding Anti-Semitism and Global Threats
48:20 to 48:30
Explore the nuances of anti-Semitism and the broader implications for Western civilization.
“On Rho, you can access GLP-1 options, including the first FDA-approved GLP-1 pill for weight loss.”
The Implications of AI and Social Media
48:49 to 56:01
Discuss the dangers of AI and social media on society and the need for action.
“They're on the side that wants to fight.”
Questioning Rationality in Information
56:01 to 57:26
Explore the importance of evidence in claims and the rationality of belief.
“And we have Kash Patel, Donald Trump, and Dan Bongino.”
Transcript
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1:52All right, Glenn Beck, do I have to bother giving you an intro? What do you want me to say about you? You're on the short list of sane people that I've known throughout this. Like, would that suffice? I am so thrilled to say that you and I have been friends since before it was cool to be friends with each other. You know what I mean? We really, well, I feel like you're one of my original friends in the biz now, which is crazy. I mean, we only met, my guess is it was probably late 2016, early 2017. So it's not that long. No. Was it really only then? Yeah, because I only lived in that house for a short period of time.
2:29And I remember you walking in to do the show. It was the first time we ever broke bread. And we had to kind of feel it out. Well, I remember walking out and talking to some people in the conservative movement. And they were like, shouldn't have done that. Shouldn't have done that. He's not, I'm telling you, Glenn, he's not a friend. And I'm like, he seemed totally cool. I really liked him. And they're like, yeah, but he doesn't, he doesn't agree on abortion. And I'm like, oh, okay. So, okay. So we can't talk to him until he agrees on absolutely every one of our time. That's craziness. And, uh, and, uh, and, and it was amazing to watch people, you know, they just don't know how to deal with it.
3:11And we're, I think we're getting worse at this. If you don't agree on 100 % of whatever it is, we can't talk. You're an enemy of mine. And it's got to stop. It's crazy. It's really got to stop. And I think maybe to your credit, in those roughly nine years since we've known each other, I'm probably more of a right-wing maniac than you are at this point. I told you. I told you. Oh, Dave, we will have—you will be ours. At some point, you will be ours. Now you're looking at me going, Glenn, at some point, you will be ours. I know. I know. You're just too moderate for me. But I said, OK, we'll do we'll do this show anyway with moderate liberal Glenn Beck.
3:50Well, I think that's moderate liberal. I think that's what happens when you move to Florida instead of Texas. I mean, Texas kind of pushed out on us in many ways. I mean, it's still great, but it's not Florida. It's not Florida. And Texas is in trouble. Let's do a little of that to start, because there was a moment where I considered a Dallas operation, and we took a walk on your ranch, and we had a serious heart-to-heart, and I really was considering it. And then I had just more—it was more family reasons, because I had my sister and my parents here that got me to Florida. But that's an interesting place to start, because Florida and Texas are kind of the Alamo now.
4:30You do still have the Alamo. We're kind of the Alamo of America. But Florida does seem to be doing it in a better way than Texas is doing it right now. I think it's DeSantis. I worry about what's going to happen to Florida once DeSantis is gone because he's just so clear. And I think he's just I think he's America's best governor. And we have a governor who is OK. We have, you know, House of Representatives. OK, it's all Republican. But what does that even mean anymore? So what is that? What is that? So like, why would somebody like Abbott, who is in charge of Texas, that had a weird moment maybe with Beto a couple years ago where it felt like it might go the other way, but then it did push back to red.
5:11Why aren't they stronger? Why isn't he looking at DeSantis and being like, I'm going to do it this way? I think it's because Texans don't feel like they could lose it all. They really don't. They're like, ah, it's Texas. It'll always be Texas. Where Florida was like, it could go any way. And Texas is just, it'll always be this way. And they have no idea how close it is to losing Texas. I mean, I'm really concerned about it. I've talked to the governor about it. I've talked to Ken Paxton about it. You know, I've talked on the air about it. I went to a, I spoke to all these new CEOs that were moving their countries, companies into Texas from California.
5:53And I said, how many of you here moved because of taxes? They all raised their hand. Okay. How many moved here because of regulation? You couldn't get anything done in California. They all raised their hand. Okay. How many of you just could not for any reason do business anymore in California? and this is like a paradise. They all raise their hand. I said, now, how many of you have told your employees that very thing that you've now moved from California here to Texas? Not one raised their hand. And I said, you're going to end up in California again. You have to tell people why you moved to Texas.
6:36You moved to Texas because it is impossible to do business in California. And if you just keep importing people from California that don't get it, that don't know, they're just going to turn us into California. So do you think it's part of just the human condition that because when things are going right, people do take their foot off the gas, that it's part of the human condition that you don't then relentlessly run around defending all the good stuff? Although I will have to say, maybe this is your point, here in Florida, I'm seeing no, and probably because of DeSantis, the people that are moving here are the most patriotic, we are not going to screw this up thing.
7:14ever. I mean, I'm telling you, my neighborhood, every day someone new is moving in, American flag is going right up front, right? Yeah. At the beginning. And they're making it clear they are here for a reason. That's generally happening in Texas. I, you know, I would say that Austin scares me a little bit, especially. You got a real I am legend situation there with the homeless, by the way. Yeah. It's really bad in Austin and Austin has always been very left, you know, And that's the capital and the home of some of the powerful universities. And now they're trying to make it into the Hollywood of Texas.
7:49And that just scares the crap out of me because you start to lose Austin. You grow the spirit of Austin from what it already has been. It is already the San Francisco of Texas. You give that more cultural relevance, you're going to lose the state. and we lose Texas and we're done because you'll never get, I mean, it's like having California and New York and Texas. You have New York, California, Texas. What else do you need? Right, well, it basically, it would be the ultimate sacrifice to the monster to then be like, okay, now we've got everybody at that point, right? You take out Texas, you take everybody.
8:28So with that in mind, we have traded some communication over the last year. I have had a sense that Florida might be in Glenn Beck's future. Now, you're running quite an operation over there with the Blaze, a million people over there who I love. Largest soundstage between New York and Cali in the entire United States of America. I've been to the ranch. I see what's going on in Glenn Beck's life. You have the fancy pillow couch from Restoration Hardware that everybody wants, the cloud couch. Everybody wants that. Yeah, sure, everybody does. Of course they do. You also have a lot of great memorabilia and things of that nature, but the couch is pretty impressive.
9:01But I sense Florida is in you now. Am I right about this? So, yeah, because we've been exchanging emails, you know. Yeah, I promised my wife that when we first got married, she's like, someday I want to live by the water. And there's no water in Texas. None. You know, unless you want to live in Houston or Corpus Christi, you don't want to do that because it's just so humid. That's too hot even. Yeah. Yeah, it's too hot. Even for Floridians. Uh, and so my wife and I for the last three or four years have been looking for a place and we just found a place and you're actually, you're the first to know it, Dave.
9:39Uh, but we're going to be, I'm keeping everything in Texas, in Dallas. Um, but, uh, Tanya and I are going to be living, uh, most of our, most of our time we're going to be living in Florida. Cause I just, I love it. And I love, you know, the one thing I miss about New York is the dynamic culture of all of the, you know, big brains just hanging out and talking and having dinner and everything else. Not that it doesn't happen in Texas, but Florida has become the best part of New York, in my opinion. And I really enjoy it every time I go there. And my wife always says, you know, they have an ocean here.
10:18uh so yeah so in uh wow actually we're closing on a house in about a month wow i am so absolutely we have traded some emails but i did not know that it was that final i am absolutely thrilled to hear that and uh i know you're a man who enjoys a good steak dave rubin is the king of tomahawks so you guys okay well down yeah we'll come over to your house and you'll you'll have to bring the family up to ours because we'd love to have you i wow well that's that is great really great to So you're going to be, will you be filming out of Florida too? I mean, I guess so if you're, if you're going to be living there most of the year.
10:50I mean, I'll be doing some out of the sound stages of Dallas, some of the big shows that we're going to be doing. I'm changing an awful lot next year. I'm, uh, I'm probably taking the biggest gamble of my career and I'm kind of in with the career. I've kind of been known as a gambler. Yeah. You've taken a few. Yeah. But, uh, I'm, I'm radically changing everything, uh, in the first of the year. But I'll be doing a lot of the big shows and everything I'm going to be doing on the sound stages in Dallas. But most of my daily stuff will probably be done in Florida. You mentioned to me right before we started recording that two years from now, 2027, will be your 50th year in broadcasting.
11:34I just turned 49 this week. Okay, all right. Does that have some... No, no, no, that's not... Dude, I'm saying that with the most love and respect. Like, you know how many... I've got the railroad track starting here, Dave. It's like, oh, God, what's happening to me? There's something. There's something. Because if you were still on network TV, I'm pretty sure they'd do something. There's a guy that stands behind you. Oh, yeah. There'd be somebody. They'd have somebody standing behind me just grabbing onto my neck. But 50 years. Well, 50 years, that's incredible. I mean, especially because in my, you know, 13 years or so of this, whatever it is, I've seen so many people burn real hot and then disappear.
12:16I've seen people that were amazing, that turned out to be terrible. I've seen people that I thought were going to be nobody turned into somebody. And you have so many more versions of that, I'm sure. So is that partly why you're doing a life change now? Because of this, I mean, that's a pretty, you know, hefty number. So, yeah, well, I guess part of it, I, you know, I'm a disruptor at nature. I disrupt myself all the time. Um, and you know, I got into talk radio to disrupt talk radio because I thought it was really boring, um, and disrupted that and then got into, uh, television and disrupted, uh, cable news.
12:51And then the real big disruption was putting blaze on, uh, and you know, blazing that path, if you will, uh, for people like you to be able to, I mean, nobody, I mean, it's crazy Dave to I think it was 14 years ago yesterday or sometime earlier this week. It was 14 years ago that I left Fox and did the first broadcast at GBTV, which is now The Blaze. And I remember Roger Ailes saying to me, you're not really going to do that Internet thing. And I said, yeah, I am. And he said, there's no future in that. That's nothing. It's a fad. And I said, I don't think it is. But I mean, just 14 years ago, that's how primitive things were.
13:34I mean, think how much has changed since then. And now I'm in the, you know, I think I've got another 15 years in me where I want to run hard. And I want to go out disrupting again. And there's things that I've done, you know, it's weird when you get to a certain point in your life, you, it feels like, okay, I've spent my whole life preparing for what I think is right now. And so I'm, I'm, I'm disrupting hard. How do you figure out, how do you figure out what that right now is? Is it that your kids are now, you know, basically, I think all your kids are out of the house or maybe your youngest son isn't.
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15:22But also, you know, now that my kids are, when we were going to Florida to look at the house and we were thinking about buying the one we did, my wife and I had a long talk on the airplane and we were like, you know, it's not right. You know, we should be living in a 400 square foot apartment. It's just the two of us. and it's it's I don't feel right I feel like it's time for us to really dedicate ourselves to philanthropy and so everything that I'm doing now will be really geared at least financially all to philanthropy I mean my audience is the most generous they we have we have rescued in the last nine years, 260 ,000 Christians from being killed, slaughtered, or abused overseas.
16:13We have raised and given away now almost, or just over a quarter of a billion dollars, like 300 ,000 or$300 million we've raised and given away. And I think we're just getting started. I mean, I have some really big goals for myself on what to do. What are those dark clouds you just described or the changes that are coming? What are they? Because you've been ahead of this stuff for years. I told you I used to watch you on Fox. I say it every time we do this. But I would watch you on Fox with that blackboard. And I thought this guy is half crazy, half brilliant, and half a showman. That's three halves.
16:55But there was a lot going on there. Right. And you were right about it. a lot of these things, particularly as it pertained to what was going to happen to mainstream media and everything else. So what do you see as those talks? Not only that, I mean, if you look at what's happening with Mamdani, that is the chalkboard that I'm probably, Wes, known for. The Islamists, the socialists, the communists, the anarchists will work together first to destroy Israel, then to destabilize Europe and America and to end the Western world. I was made fun of for that. That's it. But if you look at it, I should have put a giant magnet of his face on that board today because he is the poster child for that to happen.
17:37And I think we are in, you know, I hope that the future of the Democratic Party is not him. But I think it is at least for a while, at least until they realize that is either not where America is or until we realize, oh, my God, that is what America is. But I think there's some real, real trouble. I mean, the blowback. Have you seen any evidence that it's not the future of the Democrat Party? I mean, one of the lines that I love to quote from Jordan Peterson is he would always ask these Democrats, when does the left go too far? And no one would ever give him a point. So it seems that the entropy, if nothing else, leads to this guy winning.
18:23Or if somehow he doesn't win, it's that the entropy will still go in that direction. Right. So let me ask you, Dave. I mean, this is what people, why they mocked this board that I did is because they said the communists and the Islamists and the anarchists and the socialists, they don't have anything in common. What do they have in common? And I said, they have one thing in common, revolution. That's what they have in common, destroy the West. And well, but they're not going to work together because they're all against each other. And I said, no, it's human nature. Everybody gets together and like, yeah, okay.
18:58well, let's bring him into the camp and we'll kill him or eat him, you know, after we finish with these people. And that's exactly what's happening. The Democrats brought in, I said this when they brought Michael Moore into the presidential box. What was that for? Was that for John Kerry? And I said, you can't, he's a socialist. You cannot bring him into the box. You can't do that because once you, once you open that door, you start to normalize all of that. and you think you're using them, but they're using you. They will gain power and they will eat you in the end. The reason why you're not seeing any pushback from people like Schumer and everything else is they're terrified of these guys.
19:37Look at what happened in Minneapolis. What do you think that was? That was somebody who was willing to see reason and go, you know what? I really don't want to make this vote, but I have to because I think it's the right thing to do. And they kill her. Yeah. They are eating that party. And then once the communists have eaten the Democrats, then the Islamists will eat the communists.
20:23non-diabetics with obesity or overweight with a weight-related medical condition versus 2.2 % to 3.1 % in placebo R. Rx only. To stay informed about serious side effects, go to roe.co slash safety. Is it remarkable to you that more of, let's just say, the like generic kind of like gender, queer, progressive, waify, whatever, don't realize that the Islam thing is not going to work? I think most people can, certainly people watching my show can watch you say that. They understand why this intersectional thing can't hold too many competing interests. But OK, fine. We're all trying to take out the West first.
21:00But I'd really try to get in the average mind of a queer for Palestine. Do they honestly, or is it just that their minds are so muddled now because of algorithms and everything else? You know, I really want to give people on both sides, Dave. I mean, I think we have morons on our side, too. I should say that. We'll get to those in a little bit. Yeah, we have people who are so algorithmed out that they can no longer see reality. And so I really feel bad, and I try to give these people the benefit of the doubt, but I just can't. I mean, you really have to be brain dead at this point as a homosexual to go, oh, I'm for Hamas.
21:40What are you? What? What are you thinking? They're going to kill you. You know what? You saw it in Egypt. Remember when they all came and they were going to protest for Palestine? The Egyptians know exactly who the Palestinians are and who the revolutionaries are. No, get out of our country. And they're like, we have this right in America. Well, you're in Egypt now. Those videos might have been my favorite videos of the entire year. Because it was like to watch these Western dingbats all show up and they're LARPing as revolutionaries and just have the Egyptians basically spit on them. It's like, it doesn't get better than that, actually.
22:21Yeah, yeah. It's, you know what, we're going to, if we don't stand together and we don't find our way to everybody who loves the Constitution, even if we disagree on some pretty big things, you know, I don't want any guns. Okay, well, there's one out of the 10 we disagree on. We can have that argument. But let's not have that argument right now. Let's save the rest of the Constitution. If we don't come together and hold the gates and the jackals from outside the gates coming in and just eating all of us, we're going to see we're all going to be apart. But we will witness the night of long knives.
23:10We will see it in our own life where the communists will knife the the Islamists and the Islamists will kill the homosexual lobby. And I mean, we're going to see it in our own lifetime. I hope I hope not. But if we don't get it pretty soon, we're going to get it in the end. No, it's interesting because I always consider myself kind of a world-weary optimist. I'm not like a blind optimist. I'm a realist first. So I am an optimist because kind of like you, how could we do this if we weren't wired toward optimism? You would have killed yourself 40 years ago probably. Long ago. Long ago. She'd be Greta Thunberg.
23:50And she's not aging well. No, she's not. Yeah, she's starting to look like a golden girl right now because it's fueled by hate. But at some point, if we don't wake up enough people, it just magically appears. And I think that's the part that people don't realize. Like, at some point, you just seeded your city and then you're just some guy walking in New York City and you think you're in New York City, but you're actually in zombie New York City. And I think that's what a lot of people are going to be confronted with. I got to tell you, Dave, when I saw that the I mean, this should tell you everything you need to know about education in our country.
24:23The number one search on Google the night of the election in New York was what's a communist? I know. I know. Good heavens. What's a communist? After you voted, you decide to look at what's a communist. So do you think that was partly our mistake that we all kind of include myself in this, that in some sense, we all took a little bit of a victory lap around Trump winning like, oh, we defeated the woke but what we didn't see maybe or what was hidden under it under it was that actually they would be able to recalibrate pretty damn quickly within this new alliance that you're talking about like again you got to give it credit that's what i'm always saying it's evil but you got to give it credit for survival brilliant it's brilliant the way this whole thing has been done is absolutely brilliant on there on that you have to admire it um i mean And even though it is, like you said, evil, you have to admire how it's been done.
25:17You know, it's, you know, everybody was talking about, I heard Liz Wheeler talk about this the other day, that she said, you know, everybody was saying that he just ran a better campaign and whatever. No, he didn't. That's just years and years of indoctrination. That's all it is, of telling everybody that America is bad, it's horrible, it's just nothing but the oppressor. And you have to believe anybody, anybody, even people who are putting people in cages, setting them on fire because they don't agree on the same religion or throwing gays off the rooftop. They're better than the United States of America.
25:58When you've done that for 10 or 15, 20 years, this is exactly what happens. what do you think has been for you your your ability to a guy that people you say glenn beck's nuts he's crazy with the chalkboard and all this stuff and yet i always i always put you on my list of sane people in the biz what do you think it is about you that allowed you to see something that's pretty damn scary take a lot of risks throughout your career and not go bananas because we don't have to name names but like there's a laundry list of people in our world that i think have just gone completely crazy and again you've been doing this longer than me So you probably saw many more of them before I was even in the game.
26:38Uh, I think it is, uh, that, uh, one, I'm a God guy. So I, and I should say this carefully. I'm a God guy who, uh, has been humbled by his own mistakes. I'm a raging alcoholic currently in recovery. and when you've lost everything and then you find the only thing that matters and has meaning. And the only thing that matters is having your word actually mean something and fame and fortune and everything else doesn't mean anything, Dave. And you know this. I know you have got to have wrestled with this yourself. It is so intoxicating, you know, to be able to speak and have people listen and want to know.
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27:32And you can get, it's a really hard job that we do where you think you have to be confident enough in yourself to say, no, this is right, this is wrong. But then be humble enough to realize you're still probably wrong. You're just on a road to being right. Right, right. And it's really hard. So I think the fact that I am an alcoholic that had been redeemed and surrendered all of this stuff has helped me a great deal. And then being married to a good woman. I just don't think you make it without a spouse that is rock solid, rock solid. My wife, you know, she's not into she's she said we were invited to the to the White House for dinner with the president at some point.
28:22It was White House or Mar-a-Lago or something. I don't remember. We were going, and I said, honey, we've been invited to have dinner with the president, blah, blah, blah. And she loves the president, loves the president. But she said, when? And I said, when? She's planning the Florida move, you know. She's working on the curtains. And she said, when? And she said, honey, I'd rather just be with the kids this weekend. And so I went and took my son with me. But she's just not impressed by any of it. And if my wife would have been like Jeff Bezos's new wife, oh my gosh, I would have been sadly lost a long time ago.
29:07Yeah. So you go, so that's got to be something that probably is a little bittersweet in some sense. You're getting to do this awesome thing. I mean, I know you've known Trump for years and interviewed him many times, but you're getting to go to the White House to sit down with the president. And your wife's not there, but she's taking care of the other part of life. Yeah, so we kind of had an agreement when we first started. She was like, I will take care of keeping our family safe, you know, and away from all the craziness of what you do. And you try to help the country, you know, stay safe and away from all the craziness.
29:40And, you know, as we were flying to Florida to buy this house, she said to me something because she doesn't, you're one of the very few, Dave, that have ever been to our house. We don't have guests at our house ever unless they're long, long time friends because of the way our life has unfolded, you know, over the years. And so she just guards that. And she said to me on the plane, she said, okay, the kids are gone now. I'm ready. And I said, what do you mean? And she said, I'm ready to join you now in doing good and raising money. And we're going to open up our house and we'll do it for all the right reasons.
30:27And neither one of us are really, we're not cocktail party people. We're not social butter. I mean, I just don't, I don't, I don't like it. And she doesn't either. They were both real homebodies. But she's now joining me in keeping me sane and keeping me grounded in do good first. Just do good first. I want to know. And I've seen it with you guys, although she does let you drive that. What's that car that you drove me to the Blaze studio in that you're old? Oh, it's a 1934. It's a 1934 Bentley Boattail Le Mans racer. And it is unbelievable. All right. We're going to put a, we'll put a picture of it up in post because you took me in this car, I don't know, about a half hour to drive back to the studio from your house or so.
31:13We're on the highway. You know, there's no, there's no top. We have no helmets on. You're grinding the gears on this thing. I'm thinking it's going to end right now. Like we're, some giant truck in Texas is just going to, and I was like, you know what? If this is how it ends, Ruben got crushed with Glenn Beck in the old time. It's going to be cool. So she lets you do that. Yeah, it is. It is a pretty good way to go. She does let me. Because I collect history, she's let me collect some amazing things. But, you know, they're all going, there's another announcement that's coming in January about our museum, that we're going to be doing some amazing things and finally giving it a public space and opening it to the public.
31:54And we're about to do something with the White House for the 250th, which is really exciting. So there's some really neat things. I'm Hannah. I've lost 75 pounds in 20 months with GLP-1s, plus diet and exercise. On Rho, I've gone from struggling to run a mile to running farther every day. You can access FDA-approved GLP-1s online. Get the support you need to reach your weight loss goals. Go to roe.co slash weight to see if you qualify. I'm a paid Rho partner. 20 % average weight loss in one year in non-diabetics with obesity or overweight with a weight-related medical condition versus 3.1 % in placebo-arm.
32:29Rx only. To stay informed about serious side effects, go to roe.co slash safety. Let me ask you a bit about that. So I think one of my favorite episodes of the show I ever did, we did at Blaze Studios, and you just, I said to you, bring whatever you want. And you brought in a whole bunch of your favorite memorabilia, and we went through things for about an hour. It was really wonderful. And then I got to spend some time at the museum, and you let me hold the Olympic torch that Jesse Owens held, which I'm pretty sure you shouldn't have let. Crazy. Why did you let me hold that? I should not have been allowed to hold that.
32:56You know, the only thing I ever regret is I had somebody, Darth Vader, from the original New Hope, Darth Vader's helmet, and he dropped it. And he chipped it. And it took everything in me to go, it's just stuff. It's just stuff. And I was like, oh, don't worry. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. You know, do you know the person that did that? Mm-hmm. Okay, good, because I'm about to tell you something that I guess the Blaze people never told you, and you promise me you're not going to fire anyone right now? Oh, my gosh. Did you try it on? Years ago, when I was doing a little photo shoot there, they were like, anything else you want to do?
33:36Oh, that's so funny. And I was like, well, he's got the freaking Vader helmet. Oh, that's so funny. I did put it on. There is a picture. I have to. But I did not drop it. I swear that. I know. I have to tell you, I put it on. When I first got it, I got it and I put it on and I went into my son's bedroom. He was like 13 and I went, I am your father. But yeah, now we don't let anybody. There was a very famous person I met backstage someplace and I had it. And they were like, come on, man, you got to let me put it on. I'm like, no, no, no. I've been wanting to get that off my chest for a long time.
34:10I feel much better right now. It's good. I'm glad you had the opportunity. But you have, what's so great about your collection, do you even consider it your collection anymore, the museum's collection, or is some of it yours? Is any of the stuff yours, actually? Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, my kids had to pay for their own way to college because of that collection, but yeah. Because you're like, yes, I need one more C-3PO. Yeah, that's right, that's right. But your collection, it's incredible because it's incredible historic memorabilia, but then, like, these insane things from Hollywood, like Dorothy's ruby red slippers.
34:44And then you have, last time I was there, you have the original set of All in the Family. The set. Like, that's nuts. I know. My wife wouldn't let me buy the Tonight Show set, Johnny Carson's Tonight Social. Oh, my God. How much do they sell that for? I think that one went less than the All in the Family, and I think Johnny Carson's set was half a million, something like that. That's it? Wow. Yeah, yeah. That doesn't mean that. Well, I mean, when you see it, it's very unimpressive. Right. Well, they're much smaller than you think they are. Yeah. Yeah. It was really unimpressive. You walk up to it.
35:21And you remember the skyline? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. That was painted on carpet. So they took a roll of carpet. They painted it. And because that's what, I guess, gave it textures. It was so, you walk in, you're like, oh, my gosh, really? This was it? This was it. What's your favorite? I mean, what's really like the thing that you have that you consider the prized possession? You've shown me some really, really unbelievable things. Is there one thing that's the thing that still wows you? For me, it's probably, for personal reasons, it's probably all the stuff in the Orson Welles section. I've got his typewriter where, you know, he took Mankiewicz's name off of Citizen Kane.
36:06He was like, no, Mankowicz did read Iroh. I have his script. I have all of his scripts from all of his films. I have the original War of the Worlds script. I have his movie camera. I have his storyboards from Citizen Kane done by him. I mean, and I'm a big fan of Orson Welles, so that's probably my personal favorite. But it's hard to choose. I mean, there's 150 ,000 pieces in one vault, and that's that's uh probably only about 50 of it what about from a historical perspective not a not a hollywood or entertainment perspective uh passion wise one of my favorites is uh the d-day normandy flag the the flag that landed on the beaches of normandy and it i don't know if you've seen that one i don't think i saw that i don't know it's there's it's only half of it it's all frayed and I mean it looks like it went through war it is stunning um the we have uh the uh full roe versus wade uh case of the entire all the papers all of the notes back and forth all the letters back and forth from uh rose attorney um so that one is being poured over by by scholars and attorneys now because she wanted it to go to a university, you know, to teach people that, you know, how important it is to fight for abortion rights.
37:36And when I saw that, I thought, well, you know, it seems pretty greedy. Then you should have just donated it, you know. Otherwise, you put it up for auction and you risk somebody like me. And then my wife found out about it because she does not like, she does not bid in any of this. She does not like this at all. and I knew that was going to be really expensive and so I said to her I said honey um and she said she says the same thing every time oh good lord what is this going to cost and I said I before I even say what it is and uh I said well I want you to hear this one out because um this one is different and I told her what it was and I said so I don't know what do you think that's worth And she said 65 million children.
38:21And so she bid on that one. And don't ever bid against my wife. She's an animal. But that one we are loaning out. We're doing research on it right now to get everything down. But I've seen people that were interns on that case that are going through it. And they're like, they're seeing these notes. And they're like, I knew it. We knew it at the time. We knew there were these connections to all these lefties that happened way before, and they have always been denied, but they're all in the paperwork of this case. It's just such an unbelievable collection. I can't wait to get back there and dive into some of the other things.
38:59Let's back up for a second because, you know, we started talking about kind of the problems of the left, and that's obviously – that's wheelhouse stuff for us to do. Yeah. There's been some weirdness on the right over the last couple of months, I think, particularly as it pertains, obviously, to, let's say, Israel, Iran, some of that kind of stuff. You've been so consistently good on this forever. You also mentioned how many you said you saved 235 ,000 Christians. Is that what you said? 165 Christians, Yazidis, and persecuted people for their religious affiliation. Yeah. There's probably some Jews in that, too.
39:33Yeah. So as it connects to that part, one of the strange things that I found is with some of the people on the right that have been so critical of Israel, Israel is the place in the Middle East where Christians are free. I was there a week before the Iran war, and I got an unbelievable personal tour of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. and it is a place free of oppression and all of these things and amongst the fact that there's 2 million Arab Muslims that live there and all the rest of the other stuff. What do you think is going on? What is the crux of the confusion, let's say, if you think that's the right way to present it, with some of the other, the guys that we would normally agree with on a lot of things?
40:14I mean, being a religious guy, evil is playing a great role. you know the author of all confusion is is you know the adversary and so evil is playing a very great role in confusion I think there is a couple of things that are going on one I am against forever wars I don't want to fight Israel's war I don't I don't want to be involved in it at all I believe supporting Israel means hey back off let them fight their own fight that's their country That's their space. Let them fight the way, you know what, somebody comes in and tells us, if Canada, Canadians started doing what Hamas was doing to us, you want England coming in and telling us how to fight our fight?
41:00No. Screw off England. We're going to fight it the way we want to fight it because we have a right to survive. And that's my support of Israel is that. Let them fight it. I don't know if anybody's noticed they seem fairly capable of doing it in shocking fashion, you know, but I think that just comes from thousands of years of people trying to erase you finally getting your own land and saying, you know what, if this starts to happen again, we're not taking any prisoners. We're going to end it. And so they're very good at doing that. And so I think the confusion of it's another forever war, the thing that I warned about as soon as Barack Obama was running and I saw that he was a Marxist, I said, warning, anti-Semitism is going to come raging back.
41:48By 2008 or 2009, I said, we will see the hatred of the 1930s that were on the streets of Germany and Poland. You're going to see this come back, and it'll be on the streets of Europe and in America because it always goes hand in hand with Marxism, always. And so I think there's this confusion of anti-Semitism. I hate this. You know, they control the world bullcrap. But do they really do they? And I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't be the only country in the world that rockets are constantly flying in. That's dealing. Yeah. An inability to get their hostages back, et cetera, et cetera. It is such an amazing thing, Dave, to watch.
42:34And and I find frightening because. You know, they are the canary in the coal mine. If you think that, oh, we just we just let them get rid of Israel, then everything's fine. You're next, dude. You're next. And that's with all of us. I mean, you know, if you go back and you look at the Barbary Pirates War that we fought, our first, very first foreign war, the guy who hated foreign wars as much as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, was the one who fought it. And he had the Koran. I have it upstairs in the library. a Koran that was published at that time because he said, you shouldn't read quotes from it.
43:18You need to read the whole book. You need to understand what these people believe because if we don't fight them now with the Barbary pirates, they believe that they can take you and use you as a slave or kill you or do whatever they want with you because you're an infidel. And if we don't fight them now in our first war, we will be fighting them in our last war. And he's right. So do you think some of this is also a confusion about the reality of the world versus sort of what flies online? Meaning we all live in this information war and it's easy to say, oh, this person's a warmonger. I'm for peace.
44:00And the bumper sticker around that kind of sounds right. We're all for peace until they come for you one day. And I think something has happened where the internet has so softened people's brains that they don't understand that actually every now and again to be the peacemaker and to live in peace is that you have to actually be strong. I didn't come up with the phrase peace through strength, but that the bumper sticker versions of stuff is what accelerates sort of the stupidity or something. Yeah, and there's no nuance anymore, Dave. There's none. I mean, I've started intentionally having people on, like Steve Bannon and I haven't talked, I don't know, I think since Andrew Breitbart may have died.
44:41I mean, it has been that long since we spoke to each other. And I don't like everything about Steve Bannon. I think he's got some dangerous ideas on some things. But I also think he loves the country, and I think that he, you know, loves the Constitution. institution we're going to get to a point at some point in our in our you know time together where i'm going to go yeah i think that's a really problem here steve i don't go i won't go with you there but i'm starting to have these people on that even i really disagree with on things but i can maybe get 70 or 80 percent agreement on because they're going to eat us one by one if we don't stand together we're going to you know we have to start thinking like they do in a way except with the nefarious ending of, yeah, we'll just kill them when we're done.
45:25They will stand together with anyone because their goal is to dismantle and kill the Western civilization. Well, my goal and Steve's goal and your goal is to save Western civilization. I don't, I'm not going to be picky here. I think we need all hands on deck. Yeah. I mean, we absolutely need all hands on deck. And that creates a strange bedfellow situation, but it's not like everyone's back. It always has. What's that movie with the hobbits with the hairy feet? It worked out for them, and they're a weird whack doodle good friend. I mean, doesn't that make life so much better? I mean, for me, it does.
46:06Dave, in the day, you and I would not have been friends had we not had something in us to go that said, you know, he can't be a bad guy. He can't be that bad of a guy. You know what I mean? And yeah, we disagree, but I kind of like him. And then we met and we talked and we liked each other. Now we're good friends. I mean, that's what makes life fun, exciting, good. That's what makes life life. So how much of this do you think is just the digital piece of all of it? Like that we're stuck on the phones, we're stuck in the algorithm. So that, yes, most people hearing what you just said, of course they go with that.
46:45I know I sit at a dinner. I want to be with people that I disagree with so we can have some life in the conversation. I don't want to just sit there and agree on everything. And I think most people actually do feel that in some sense, or at least most somewhat evolved people. But then we're caught on this freaking thing all day. I think to blame it on that, I think, is not wise. But to say, let me rephrase it, that I think— Or it's making us more of what we are. So I'll take the other version of it, right? Maybe it's right. Fair enough. I think what the trouble is, what we have coming towards us is social media is dangerous and we all know it and it's destroying us and destroying our families, our children, our faith, everything is destroying us.
47:29AI is a million times worse than that. And so we have social media and AI coming our way. And I don't know. I mean, it's going to be a very, very tight corner to turn. And it's coming at us at a thousand miles an hour. And I don't think most people are seeing it because of the other real enemy to freedom. And that is apathy. They just don't think it's ever going to change. You know, it's just the way it is. It's always going to be this way. And it's never been this way. It's never been this way. It's always the only constant in life is change and sometimes massive change. And that's what's coming.
48:15Massive change. I'm Serena Williams, and I'm healthier on Roe. I've lost 34 pounds in a year with GLP-1's diet and exercise. On Rho, you can access GLP-1 options, including the first FDA-approved GLP-1 pill for weight loss. Go to Rho.co slash journey to see if you qualify. 14 to 20 % average weight loss in one year in non-diabetics with obesity or overweight with a weight-related medical condition versus 2.2 % to 3.1 % in placebo R. RX only. To stay informed about serious side effects, go to Rho.co slash safety. So I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the people that listen to me and you are not on the apathetic side.
48:52They're on the side that wants to fight. So what do you think, just like the average person, we're on this technological precipice of something that will fundamentally change humanity with AI. We all can see the little bites of it. We can just see even in the last couple of weeks when we're doing little AI stuff with my show, we can see how much better it's getting overnight. And we will at some point be completely unable to tell if that's the real Glenn Beck or not and all the rest of it. I mean, what do you do in the midst of that? We're at that moment in the sci-fi movie where everyone's like, boy, a lot of crazy stuff's going to happen, but yet they don't do anything about it.
49:29It's a conversation that I would like to have with you off the air because I think there are some— Are you airing this thing?
49:40I thought this was our weekly check-in, Beck. That was my question. I mean, really? You're going to air this thing? But I'd like to have that conversation with you off air and then maybe again on air in a couple of months because I'm I'm working on some things that I that I think are critical that our side needs to understand and do. And I think we are, I was talking to the guy who started MTV years ago, Bob Pittman, and he runs the world's largest broadcast network, iHeartMedia. And he said, what do you think of AI? And I said, well, I think it is the tool of our own destruction. But in the years leading up to that, if it is used carefully and used with real forethought by really disciplined people, it could actually save us or save at least a remnant of us.
50:47and uh i think we're about to enter that phase dave and uh and i'd like to talk to you about it off the air and then we can come on and talk about it some other time yeah well of course of course we can do that we can maybe do it in person in the free state of florida but yeah i think we're you know you're i see like as you were saying that you were talking about orson wells before i mean it reminds me of stanley kubrick the beginning of 2001 like what we're looking at basically is the monolith right now we don't know what the hell it is and are we about to just basically bash each other's heads to get the thing that we don't know what it is.
51:19I mean, that's where we're at. We're the monkeys. Yeah, I mean, that's a really good analogy of it. That's exactly where we are. We don't even know what it is, but let's kill each other for it. And it's amazing how, you know, we couldn't have any energy because energy was just going to kill all of us and it was going to destroy the planet. And now all of a sudden the AI is here. Oh, quick, we have to double our energy so we can consume double the amount of energy. We've got to build nuclear power plants, coal plants, everything. And that's not being driven by this White House. That's being driven by Silicon Valley.
51:52That's being driven by AI and all those people. And you'll notice nobody's saying anything about it. I did an interview with the president two months ago, and I'm sitting there, and I thought he's never going to answer this question because if he does, it'll be front page New York Times. And I said, Mr. President, you know, there are sources now that tell us that the energy that will be needed by 2028 to run the server farms will be equivalent to 99 % of what we currently produce. And then he interrupted me and he said, you're absolutely right. That's why I am taking all of the red tape out of the way.
52:34these companies are going to become their own utilities. I'm going to allow them to make nuclear power plants, coal plants, gas-fired plants, whatever they need. They have to fund it and build their own energy because we are going to need that much. And I said, so nuclear power plant, we haven't started a new nuclear power plant, I think, since I was a kid. And he said, no, I'm taking the regulation. I mean, there's going to be basic safety, but I'm cutting all of that red tape out. Nobody talked about that, Dave. I don't even think I saw that clip. We played a bunch of clips from your interview.
53:09It was crazy. That's one of the most astounding things I have ever heard a president say. And I think that's because the algorithms. You know, let's not talk about that. Let's just let the social media and the big, you know, AI companies, let's just let's not even think about it. It's like social media. We are repeating exactly the same pattern. It just happened. It was just introduced. We all went, oh, that looks fun. And we just adopted it. And that's what's that's that's what's happening again. Yeah. Well, I always say it's like, you know, we got the Twitter files. We found out about all of this deep, deep corruption, not just that Twitter, obviously, but with our government.
53:46And then we never no one even asked, well, where are the YouTube files? Where are the Facebook files? Where are the Google files? Like, I think there might be some other problems here. Right. Right. And, you know, that's another thing that I think has been driving us apart is not just Israel. It is also all of this stuff, Dave, where, you know, I did a monologue on the air the other day. It was oh, it was when Dan Bongino and Cash Patel came out and said that Epstein killed himself. Yeah. And I said, really? I mean, from everything I know now, I don't know what the FBI knows, but from what I do know, that doesn't seem very likely.
54:26And then Dan Bongino came out on TV and he said, no, I've seen the footage. And I said, OK, we're at a crossroads here. We're at a crossroads because I know Dan Bongino.
54:46Right, right.
55:06I've known him since before anything. And I trust Dan. And I said, so now we're in this place to where I have to choose. Do I trust a guy I've known forever? Personally, no. I've heard him talk about things forever. And then he was appointed by the president who I trust. I mean, he's the only guy that is exposing any of this stuff. And if I don't trust them, who's left? who's left you you have nobody to trust if you don't trust dan then you can't trust the president because why isn't the president saying no dan that's not right expose it is he is is donald trump suddenly part of the big deep state or has he been duped by the deep state i mean you go and then once you go down that right then you're then you're spinning you know it's so interesting you say that because i think i said almost the exact same thing on my show when bongino came out with that because i know him too we did we did the rumble and locals thing together like i've done business with him i've known him only to be an honorable person so if i'm willing if i'm willing to throw what i personally know about him away because i have a suspicion of something the same thing that's legit that you're talking about man then then really where are we and that's that's It's amazing.
56:25We don't have any information. We have suspicion. Yeah. Okay. We have no information. And we have Kash Patel, Donald Trump, and Dan Bongino. Out of those three, they're looking at it and saying there's nothing to see here. And with no new information on our side, we're willing to say, no, uh-uh. They're part of it now. That doesn't make any sense. That's not rational. That's not rational. It is rational to say, Dan, I need you to show some of the evidence. I need to see these things. And not just for me, because I believe you, Dan. It's for the country. We cannot just go untrust. We must have facts.
57:11Carl Sagan, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, you know. Very good. Glenn, it's a damn shame we didn't record this. Next time we're going to. Let's record these next time, okay? Next time we should. I got the thumbs up over there. I love you, man. You're the best. And I cannot believe that we will soon be living in the same state. That is a good sign for the future, at least if you're a Floridian. God bless you, Dave. I love you. Thank you.
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Glenn Beck about the dangers of political purity tests on the right; why Texas is in danger of losing it's conservative status; the threat of liberal transplants changing red states; the failure of CEOs to educate employees on why they left blue states; how Austin could turn Texas blue; the growing alliance between Islamists, communists, anarchists, and socialists to dismantle Western civilization; how the left normalized radicals within the Democratic Party; the far left's long-term strategy to undermine the U.S.; his massive historic memorabilia collection; Beck's upcoming museum project and White House collaboration; his rare items like Jesse Owens' Olympic torch, Darth Vader's helmet, and Dorothy's ruby slippers; his acquisition of the original Roe v. Wade case files, which reveal hidden ties between abortion rights advocates and far-left movements; and much more.
