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23:20Gad Saad:Can I add psychological angle to this? Yes, please. I'm always fascinated when I hear folks like Gavin spew the stuff that they do, whether in the deep recesses of their minds, they actually don't believe it or do believe it. Right. And here, and I'm torn. I don't know what the real answer is, and maybe you guys can enlighten me. But there is some very interesting research from evolutionary biology by a great evolutionary biologist named Robert Trivers, who offered an adaptive explanation for why humans are so good at self-deceiving. And the argument is that if you and I, let's say Dave, are having a conversation, and I'd like to be Machiavellian with you and manipulate you, I might put out certain nonverbal cues that signal that I am being duplicitous, which you will pick up on.

24:13Gad Saad:And one of the ways by which I can ensure that that doesn't happen is for me, as Seinfeld's episode explained, first you need to believe the lie. So I wonder... It's not a lie if you believe it. Exactly. So I wonder, and you guys could tell me, do you think that the lizard believes this stuff or it's all inauthentic and he knows it's BS? I think there's almost no way to know with this guy whose policies I literally fled California this week four years ago because of and who I campaigned against with Larry Elder and everything. I don't know what's in his heart. I don't know what's in his mind. But I don't know how you could look at the record of destruction of what he did to San Francisco and then what he exported to the entire state of California and the criminality and the drugs and all of the companies that fled.

25:01I mean, when Elon Musk took Tesla and some of his other companies out of California, he had a press conference saying he was happy. Like, putting aside what your feelings on Elon are and all that, the amount of tax money you just lost that you're now going to have to punish other people. So I don't know. Is that purely Machiavellian just for power? What do you think, Viva? I tend to think he actually believes it. I tend to think every villain is the hero of their own story. And when, you know, when when Musk leaves California, it's not an indication of Newsom's failed policy. It's an indication of Musk's avarice greed.

25:34And so, you know, it's it's always the two screens. One film to was it one screen, two films, because it just depends on the metric that you're looking at in order to determine, oh, you know, homelessness is at a record high. Well, that's good. They're servicing record numbers of homeless. And so in Gavin's equation, having more homeless is better because, you know, you can service more people and service more homeless and therefore you're doing more good. Like Bernie Sanders, bread lines are a good thing. You know, it's not good to have nobody in bread lines because then you're not serving people who need food.

26:03The idea of actually minimizing poverty is sort of on the back end of their equation. So he looks at all of the consequences and nefarious in his state. He just flips the equation and says, why are they? Oh, it's there because we haven't done enough. It's there because of greed of people not paying enough taxes, because of, you know, the Elon Musk's leaving and taking their money with them. And then flip side, he decides to look at all the good stats. I mean, good in a sense that they've got a lot of business, a lot of corporations in California. They've got a big economy. They've got a lot of people.

26:31But they don't, they just, it's easy to deceive yourself to factor out the bad stats and then blame those bad stats on your enemies. Well, let's listen to Gav himself on some of Cali's successes. We have a formula for success. I mean, California's success is not an accident. It's by design. I mean, we have 18 % of the world's R &D. We invest. I'm Serena Williams, and I'm healthier on Rho. I've lost 34 pounds in a year with GLP-1's diet and exercise. On Rho, you can access GLP-1 options, including the first FDA-approved GLP-1 pill for weight loss. Go to Rho.co slash journey to see if you qualify.

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27:42We've dominated manufacturing. I have 2.8 % of manufacturing, advanced manufacturing is in place like Florida. It's 13.9 % in California. We dominate in every critical category. Of the nation's total manufacturing. Of the nation's total. Yeah, the nation's total. So we're number one in every category. So the economic opportunities, the growth, the energy, the daring, the creativity, all of that is present in California. My gosh. We have more Fortune 500 companies than we've had in a decade in California. We have more unicorn companies we've ever had. Look at the venture capital that's going back into the state.

28:15All right. So I welcome either one of you to point out any inaccuracies in what he said there. There's always a way to fudge numbers and to sort of hide things. But I would give you one other number, which we just double-checked. Do you know how many people have fled California in the last five years? You guys want to take a stab at it?

28:30Gad Saad:I'll take a shot. A million? I'll say 2.6. If I split the difference, you're right. It's 1.66 million. Okay? So the proof to me is in the pudding. You can tell me about numbers and you can tell me about all of those things and they may or may not be true and we know that you can always manipulate data to some extent. where are people going and where are people fleeing from to me that is the answer gad yeah absolutely right i mean uh i study consumer behavior right uh market penetration market share is a much better indicator of how much your product is loved than a survey that you fill out where you might lie for impression management reasons so of course you're you're walking, how you walk to where is a much better predictor of your preferences.

29:22Gad Saad:But on a slightly separate note, the interlocutor whom I had, I'm going to say the pleasure, although not quite, of meeting at a Shabbat dinner in San Francisco, did you see how enamored? It's as if the guy Ezra Klein from the New York Times. Ezra Klein, it's as if he is interacting with a mixture of epictetus newton and darwin right i mean i mean holy shit the depth the profundity with which gavin was spewing his stuff i mean slow down it's too profound for me let me take some notes and i'm always i mean i've seen the same thing with kamala harris when she's interviewed how they kind of sit like this and say my goodness you are just arguably the most brilliant person alive today do they believe that or are they bullshitting to my right it gets it gets us back to the other thing by the way my guys are telling me right now 12 fortune 500 companies have fled california in the last couple years so you know some of it viva do you think that some of it is even if his numbers are even roughly correct or some of those data points you put to are roughly correct that doesn't mean it's because of what california's been doing in many cases it's it's probably despite what cali's doing cali was the dream of americans for basically a hundred years go west it created this incredible stuff with all of this unbelievable uh natural wonder and every and the industries that went there, Hollywood, et cetera.

30:44Just because you have some good numbers doesn't mean it's because of what he has done over these last six or so years. What Gavin Newsom did in law or in debating, it's basically, it's the shotgun argument, spaghetti against the wall. He says so many things in such a short period of time, it becomes impossible to even validate or invalidate any one particular item. What I loved is that he referred to the website as transparent. Like, oh, now I know you're lying to me. Go to the website, it's very transparent. Thanks for admitting you're fudging the numbers. You have more, you know, whatever big companies than you did 10 years ago with population growth.

31:19I should hope you do. Otherwise, you know, it wouldn't just be not particularly good growth, but it might be total collapse. and then going into industries that Florida doesn't compete with California in to compare apples and oranges, literally, or to compare oranges and avocados. But hey, here's one. Homeless population. You've got a homeless population in LA that's bigger than some American cities. You've got more illegal aliens in California, in LA, than some major American cities. What about the Palisades? Tell us, have people rebuilt their homes yet? You don't have water in your fire hydrants and you're going to tell me that things are going well in California?

31:52You donate half of your, whatever, 20 % of your firefighting force to Ukraine. You don't have water because you're diverting it for the San Antonio or whatever it was, the San Antonio smelt. And you're going to tell me that things are running well in California,$6 gas. People can't sell their homes because they're unsellable. Yeah, things are going great, Gavin. Thanks a lot. And everybody's fleeing to Florida and nobody's going back with the U-Hauls. Yeah, tell me your stats one more time while we just deny reality. Quite literally. My favorite data point over the last couple of years is that when we were renting our U-Haul to get our stuff from Cali to Florida, literally four years ago this week, we had to pay double because the guy said nobody's driving the trucks back anymore.

32:34So it just economically does not work out. A little bit more about what's going on in Cali because this will show it quite clearly. The average California gas price right now is$4.41. sense. And in Florida, where he is clearly not a fan of DeSantis and the rest of us, it's 286. Now, I'm not saying that's completely the fault of Gavin Newsom and completely the credit of everything going on here, but it has something to do with governance. Here's one more. He hasn't mentioned chopping off kids' genitals yet, but he did earlier this week. Evolutions. We didn't get into trans sports. That's an issue no one wants to hear about, because 80 percent of the people listening disagree with my position on this.

33:11But it comes from my heart, not just my head. It wasn't a political evolution. Your position being that? I don't think it's fair. I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godson. There's no governor that signed more pro-trans legislation than I have, and no one has been a stronger advocate for the LGBTQ community. But you have to accommodate the reality of those whose rights are being taken away as we advance the rights of the trans community in terms of the fairness of athletic competition. And I just think that's not a bigoted position. No, it's a retarded position, but maybe it's not a bigoted position.

33:49Gad, I mean, help me here. He's so duplicitous and Viva, you're so right. He says so many things in a row and they're often conflicting that it's hard to follow up and pinpoint where you want to go with it.

34:00Gad Saad:Well, I now call it the Malcolm Gladwell effect because you gentlemen probably remember that about a month or so ago, you know the the the luminary malcolm gladwell explained to us plebs that yeah i guess you know i got cowed into saying this because i i needed to maintain my status in the manhattan elite social clubs but that yeah in reality it seems wrong what is talking about this topic specifically but this exact topic yeah yeah i guess there are biological differences between men and women So, but imagine how dark your relationship to truth must be, that in your existential calculus of how to navigate life.

34:42Gad Saad:Now, he's not a professor, but he is an author that is read by millions of people. So he is a supposed peddler of truth. yet he felt to our earlier point about which metric do you maximize he felt that it was a lot more important to stay on the right side of the cool kids party by saying that there are no innate differences between men and women and only when he realized in a very pragmatic way that it was no longer cool to say this because the winds were changing he came out and said yeah i guess i was just bullshitting. And that's what Gavin is doing. It baffles me that such people exist. I actually, when I heard that clip this week, I actually was happy because what I thought was, boy, he's still going to do this.

35:32And it is such a losing thing at this point, especially as it pertains to kids. You want to dress up however the hell you want and do whatever you want with your body when you're an adult. I don't care. And I don't think most Americans care. You have your own private beliefs and that is. But the fact that he's still on this train, to me, this could be the type of thing that really really does hamper him for the upcoming presidential run can we all have a little bit of a laugh at that he can't even say the 2s lgbtqia he doesn't even know what the numbers are anymore a b what are the odds he happens to have a trans godson or whatever it's an amazing thing how people who are in this uh silo of social contagion seem to be exponentially more impacted by it these journalists and i put by the way gad is two-spirit i don't know if you know that.

36:15So just treat him, treat him accordingly. Thank you. The, you know, these journalists or so-called journalists, you have, you know, Pierce Morgan interviewing Nick Fuentes and they don't ask follow-up questions. You have this guy, Ezra Klein. I would have asked Gavin, hey Gavin, I'm sorry, stop your, your, your shit diarrhea at the mouth business right there. What rights have been taken away from so-called trans kids? Name one, right, that has so allegedly been taken away from them and to the extent I know you're going to have no answer to that, you targeting kids with trans ideology, trans laws, is grooming, period.

36:47Keep other kids out of your mouth. I mean, pun intended. You are not in a business of targeting other people's children with trans legislation to protect from the taking away of rights that is not occurring. What you are in fact doing is genitally mutilating children. And there's a word for that. It used to be illegal. So, hey, Gavin, what right has been taken away from so-called trans kids? The answer is none. The only rights taken away are from girls to compete in girls sports against girls, biological girls, who don't have to compete against people who have a physiological advantage over them.

37:19And then you want to get around that physiological advantage by sterilizing them before they go through puberty. And now you say, now it's even because we sterilized a boy before he went through puberty and got testosterone. You're animals. You're actual modern day Dr. Mengele's and people need to say it. I mean, you know, this is what Jordan Peterson says. We'll look back on this in 20 years and realize these people were butchers. But it also goes to show how completely idiotic, you know, he butchered the LBGTQI, whatever it was. But it's like you're going after the L's and the G's and the B's to whatever extent they're really there.

37:49You're going after them because you're most likely taking a young effeminate boy who maybe will grow up to be a gay man or a girl who's a little more butch, as we used to say. And you're chopping their genitals off. So don't tell me that the L's and the G's are that thrilled with the T's. Before you go on. Yes.

38:05Gad Saad:Yeah. Because this trans craziness, of course, applies tragically to children. but let's apply it to science. I've shared this example before, but maybe your audience is unaware. University of Waterloo is one of the top technical universities in Canada, right? Sort of akin to MIT or Caltech. They're very good in engineering. They're very good in computer science. So recently they had two positions open in their school of computer science where the original compiler for Fortran in the 60s was developed. So, you know, this is an MIT level kind of school for their endowed Canadian government chaired professorship.

38:48Gad Saad:If you apply for artificial intelligence, you had to be two spirit or non-binary or so. So just imagine the Canadian government in a field as hot and as important as AI has said that if you're not in one of those categories don't apply to our school. So yes, it's tragic to children, but it's tragic epistemologically to science, to truth. It's unbelievable. There's going to be a lot of guys giving a first-time handjob going, give me that grant. Come on, come on. It was obvious. Hold on. I might have to think about that joke. Take it through, Viva. It makes sense. All right, finish us up here. Oh, no, I was just going to say, like, it's, we will look back on it the way we look back at.

39:37Don't think too hard, Viva. Lobotomy. No, but it is, and again, it's, it's, everybody thinks that the Nazis or Dr. Mengele was like, was, was an, he must have been evil. He must have exuded evil. I have no doubt that all of the atrocities of the past, they found a way to rationalize them under the cloak of morality and virtue at the time. You know, when they were killing handicaps in Nazi Germany, it was called mercy killings. What could be more merciful than mercy killings? And now you call it acknowledging trans rights for children who can't drink alcohol because they can't make those types of judgments, who can't get a tattoo.

40:10But it's empowering to them to listen to them, to mutilate them. And Dave, like you say, it's the most homophobic and misogynist movement out there because it takes a young gay kid and says, you're actually a girl. Let's mess up your ability to have an orgasm for the rest of your life. And then hope that that kid doesn't grow up to have deep, deep resentment to the monsters that did that to him. Right. What you're referencing there is what Hannah Arendt called the banality of evil. I mean, basically, you think you think that these people like if you met them, they'd be like a video game character, the bad guy in a video game or a movie.

40:42And actually, they were just regular people who started doing terrible things or often did nothing. But all right, let's leave that there. We'll talk about white people. I love them, but not everybody does. But first, Chef IQ. Chef IQ Sense is the wireless cooking thermometer that takes all the guesswork out of holiday meals. Whether it's turkey or prime rib, your food comes out perfect every time, turning I think it's done into I know it's perfect. It even tells you when to flip, when to take off the heat, and how long to let it rest. It's basically like having a personal chef right in your kitchen.

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42:25Gad Saad:I'm going to be honest. I don't feel good about being white every day for a lot of reasons because it's a point of privilege that I get to move through the world in a way that so many of my other colleagues and friends and family members of the community don't get the privilege to do. And I'm just a female, just a woman, just a white woman. If I was a white man, I would be functioning from a point of even greater privilege. I think we're missing an opportunity when kids have a moment to reflect about how the color of their skin does and does not allow them to move through the world. It's running to them and trying to stifle that and trying to say, you shouldn't feel bad, so we don't want to ever expose you to something that is going to make you have to pause and have maybe some internal feelings.

43:21Gad Saad:It's a missed opportunity for some really good dialogue. I have a great AI video for that idea for AI video, which is how far do you think we are, Viva, from someone like her saying that and then literally in the next moment taking out a paintbrush and painting herself brown and then saying, thus, I will live as a brown woman because I will do it. I'm not just going to say how much I hate myself as a white woman. I will live as an oppressed brown woman. Like, it actually doesn't seem like we'd be that far from someone falling on the sword and trying something that insane. Dave, first of all, when I saw that video.

43:59It's probably pills you could do, peptides, I assume. I thought that video was AI. And it's like, before I comment, I just, can you all confirm that this is a real video? You want to know what white supremacy in its truest form looks like? It's that woman right there who thinks that white people just float through the universe like that person from The Hills Are Alive. I'm white. And she must walk through the universe, like look down at brown people and black people and say, oh, you wish you were white. I have it so easy. That is white supremacy. To look at a black person or a brown person and say, I have it so much better because I'm white.

44:31It's not hatred of self because she'll never paint herself brown. It is absolute scorn. and what is it called? The soft bigotry of low expectations. Soft bigotry of low expectations. She looks at brown and black people and says they only wish they were white. Nobody thinks that way except for a white supremacist. And you notice the diamonds on our fingers and the nice pearl. The real privilege, if there is one, is financial. Nobody looks at innate characteristics and says it's a privilege because by definition, a privilege is something that's only afforded to certain people. Race and biology is not a question of that.

45:04It's not subject to the morality of privilege. But you know what is? finances and political privilege, of which she quite clearly has a lot. By the way, they're telling me right now she is, in fact, married to a white man. Gad, you have golden olive skin, so it's a little hard for me to ask you this question without an implicit bias. That's right.

45:23Gad Saad:Well, so two things. Number one, I feel more disgusted with myself around this time of period where my gorgeous tan and natural skin becomes more green, and then I feel more victimized and superior as I come visit you in Florida or California. But I actually, I hadn't locked and loaded this example, you know, in preparation for the show. But as I saw her, it reminded me of a case. I mean, one of the things that, and forgive the plug, one of the things that is fantastic about my forthcoming book is that I have just a bewildering number of cases of this kind of suicidal empathy. One of which that really applies to this particular segment, this is a white woman who had you know spent her life trying to demonstrate that it is wrong to argue that black men are in any way violent or that they rape women or any any of that stuff it's simply not true and to the extent that it happens it's because of white supremacy so she went to Haiti to stand along with her black brothers and she found out that unfortunately a guy took her up to a rooftop and raped her violently all night.

46:33Gad Saad:And she was shocked as she was telling him, please stop when she said to him, but don't you realize that I am a Malcolm X fan and a Malcolm X scholar that didn't stop him from raping her. And then she's basically says, but I've learned and have been enriched from the experience. So when you get a white woman getting raped violently by a black man that is further solidifying the fact that it is white supremacy that's the problem in the world and that she's been enriched by this rape. I don't think I need more than that one example for my book to sell really well. You know, as I'm sure you guys both know that, you know, there's a October 7th parable here too, because most of the people who were killed down South, they were the peaceniks who were trying everything possible to live with the Palestinians.

47:27And in many cases, a lot of them worked in their gardens and farms and things of that nature. And those were the very people who knew exactly where the safe rooms were and all of that stuff. Let me jump over to this video. I've shown a couple of videos of this young guy. His name's Nick Shirley. And he just gets out on the street in all of like the crazy zones. And he asks questions of people, often putting himself at great harm. Watch this. You should be upset with people like me. I am. That's why I'm finna rob you, dumbass. The f***? Why? Huh? Why? Because you're on indigenous land. Not your land.

47:59My land. My people's land. F*** you talking about n***? I can do whatever the f*** I please on my land. Now give me the phone.

48:08Gad Saad:I need to tell people. No you don't. No you don't. I got ten. I got ten dollars. Give me ten dollars and I won't take the phone. I know you got more than thirty dollars. Show me your wallet. I'll bet you got thirty dollars. Go to the bank. Go to the bank. What? Wait we still getting the phone Let me get the phone. And you see this, people? You see how the cycle works? I said I wouldn't take the phone. My little n**** on the other hand. I didn't say nothing about them. Because he said he deserves to get robbed. Yeah, he did. I like people who talk like that. I'm going to do that on the show now.

48:38That's a skit, right? That's a skit. As far as we can tell, it is not, I mean, that's not what Nick does. He goes out and he just interviews these people. And what you're getting there is one of these, well, it's the exact thing that you just laid out there, Gad. It's one of these wafy lefties who thinks that he, I, what did he say? I need my phone to help people. And it's like, give me your damn phone and how much money do you have? So I don't think it's a skit. And either way, it illustrates a sort of broader point, Viva. No, well, I did love, if it, if it is a skit, well played. And if it's not a skit, the rash, I need my privilege to help people.

49:10So it's the classic, not in my backyard, that, that white woman. I'm, it's so, I have it so privileged, but I'm not giving up my privilege. Well, because there's someone who's that much more privileged than me, the white man. He's going to give up his privilege. Then maybe I'll think about it, but I don't want to give up my privilege because I use it to help those underprivileged people who I literally look down on. It's suicidal empathy, Gad. I mean, we've been, you've coined the term. We've been using it for a while. It is empathizing with, well, I mean, look, suicidal empathy is one thing. It's just the racial superiority.

49:40The only people who are apologizing for the privilege of being white are the white supremacists. And it's not a coincidence that it's coming from one side of the political spectrum these days.

49:49Gad Saad:Can I give you an example that speaks to that black-white dynamic that is also front and center in my forthcoming book? So a Norwegian white man, right? Because we now know that most Norwegians are Somali, but the original Norwegian that were in Norway, this guy was sodomized, was raped by a Somali immigrant. Yes? And after the Somali immigrant served a very, very minimal sentence, maybe two, three years, whatever it was, because the Norwegians don't believe in punishing people. They're much kinder and so on. When he was let out and he's going to now be deported back to Mogadishu, the guy who had been sodomized by him felt terrible angst because now his sodomizer would not be able to maximally flourish in Mogadishu.

50:40Gad Saad:Well, I'm here to tell you that our emotional system did not evolve to empathize with our rapists, but here we are.

50:51You're speechless, Dave. Because it just never ends. Well, yes, you sodomized me, but we wouldn't want to have to send you. It's the same rationale as what is being applied for soft on crime, and we see it playing out now in North Carolina, is you can't punish because they're committing acts beyond their own control effectively. And so we need to be sympathetic with them. And if they regress again, well, we just need to be even more sympathetic to them the next time around. And it's the price that we have to pay in order to be truly understanding to what we believe is some sort of, you know, sub-white behavior, because that's exactly what that woman stalker is describing in her video.

51:32Instead of just treating people as people, criminals as criminals and not factoring in leniency based on race and not factoring in more punishment based on race. Well, as the luminary Jasmine Crockett said this week, committing a crime doesn't make you a criminal. It's more about a mindset. So if you steal the shoes, you're not a criminal. It's only if you kind of think you it's sort of the Seinfeld thing. It's not a lie if you believe it. Let me throw to this video a guy I've been playing a ton of stuff from lately. I think he makes a hell of a lot of sense. This is Palantir CEO Alex Karp talking about the cultural acceptance of targeting white people.

52:07Our country has selective empathy for everybody but working class, particularly white males. So when you look at coverage in mainstream newspapers about the constitutionality of blowing up boats that are bringing fentanyl here, I guarantee you if that fentanyl was killing

52:26Gad Saad:people at schools we went to, potentially your kids are going to, it would be constitutional or blow up those votes. There is selective instrumental use of empathy that somehow is only applied at the point where it would help us. Dad, I think you deserve a lot of credit here. You get credit often because Elon's retweet and you're left and right these days. But you really did, the suicidal empathy notion really, well, not only did the phrase come from you, but that so many people are now finally recognizing it. Well, I'm just giving you credit. How about that? Thank you. I appreciate that. Can I just build on what he just said, just to add texture to what he said?

53:08Gad Saad:But I appreciate your very kind words. Look, the hit pieces are already starting with, the book is not out, but a whole bunch of people are writing articles that, you know, this Bengali behind Elon Musk is the dark Jew who is trying to create a world void of empathy and so on. And of course, I'm not in the least bit saying that, right? Empathy is a perfectly evolutionarily adaptive strategy. We are a social species. It makes perfect evolutionary sense for a social species to have empathy. But as Aristotle explained to us 2 ,500 years ago, in the right place, to the right people, in the right amount.

53:49Gad Saad:And that's what the Palantir guy was referring to, right? Right. It not being able to discriminate to whom your empathy should go is what makes it then suicidal. Viva, I think, you know, when Trump won the election, I think there was a sense that like kind of woke was over and, you know, we were just going to move past this and all this. And interestingly, I think there was a sort of brief period where it felt like it ended. And now I think the anti-white stuff is as strong as ever. There's more people pushing back against it. But the places and the places and the spaces, as they say, where it's accepted, they're still everywhere where you can just rant and rave about white people without, you know, any fear of retribution or anything.

54:33Well, there's the old expression that, you know, the end goal of socialism is communism. And now I'm realizing that the end goal of the Democrat Party is socialism. I mean, what we're what Karp is describing right there when he phrases it that way, it's materializing as against white working class people right now. But it's basically the same working class structure of of, you know, the workers versus the elite. I'm Serena Williams and I'm healthier on Roe. I've lost 34 pounds in a year with GLP-1's diet and exercise. On Rho, you can access GLP-1 options, including the first FDA-approved GLP-1 pill for weight loss.

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55:52Same thing for the gays. Same thing for Latinos. And then the left needs to find something new to be the parasite on because they've already sort of milked all the blood they can out of that demographic. And we're just seeing the moving target. But it is in my lifetime, it's always been, you know, the white man has been the easiest thing to mock because the Democrats control the media. They control politics for the better part of it. And they have better effective messaging and they've gotten away with it and they've mainstreamed it into movies, commercials, sitcoms and music. But it is it's the end goal of socialism.

56:21And the end goal of that is communism. And that's where they're going. Right. So basically, cultural Marxism was just the prequel to the real Marxism. Gad, I know you are going to have a field day with this clip. This is Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. And he's very excited because we're doing a little Islamic call to prayer in Minneapolis these days. I wanted to talk to you about a few issues that are important for me, both what we have done and also what we're going to do. I was the first mayor in the entire country to allow for call to prayer in Adan five times a day.

57:03Dad, this is your other area of expertise. Yes. I'm big on noise ordinances. I've now realized that. If you remember the original Caddyshack, the guy, what's his name? That great actor with the white hair. What the hell was his name? He was in Too Close for Comfort, Ted Knight. Oh, Rodney Dangerfield? No, not Rodney. Ted Knight. He was the stuck-up one, and he talks about how he's into noise ordinances. And it's like, I'm kind of into them now because I don't care. Wherever you are in America, you should not be subjected to the Muslim or any other call to prayer five times a day. And that does not make you a bigot or anything else.

57:38Am I wrong?

57:39Gad Saad:I know you're right. And I've used, I'm sure you're both familiar with it. The boiling frog parable is perfectly suited for this, right? In marketing, it's called the just noticeable difference. And let me explain. If let's say a chocolate manufacturing company wants to increase the price of their candy bar, if they increase the price, the consumers will notice. So instead, what they'll do if it's a hundred gram bar for a dollar what if we reduce it to 95 grams for a dollar effectively we have reduced the price but psychophysically if when you pick it up it falls below the just noticeable difference then you won't know so what the islamic uh you know we will use your miserable freedoms against you are doing is but what do you care if we're just pious people who want to pray and then most empathetic people go that makes sense well what do you care if we impose halal on you?

58:36Gad Saad:You know, halal and kosher are really the same thing. We're really brothers. Okay, that's okay too. Well, what do you care if we have special accommodations in universities for prayer rooms for Muslims? It's because they have to pray five times a day. And so each of them separated seemed like, okay, it's a reasonable concession. And then you close your eyes and you wake up in the morning and everybody is in a burqa. That's exactly how it happens. we should not go for it. Well, of course, also in the societies that they are dominating, they don't make those accommodations for anyone else, which of course should be noted.

59:12But Viva, even if we took the religious component out of this for just a moment, if my neighbor three doors over five times a day blasted Marilyn Manson, I would not be happy about it. And I would expect the government to do something. Well, first, I would try to knock on their door and talk to them. But this is Florida and you'd probably get shot, which I kind of respect. Especially if Yeah, exactly. But even if you remove the religious component, there's something else about the fabric of society here that I just don't think can work. Well, I mean, someone's going to say you can't even only just remove the religious component because they're going to argue what makes religion unique is that there's a special carve out in the Constitution for religious protections.

59:53And people are going to also just to steel man the argument, they're going to say, well, if the call to prayer five times a day bothers you, what about church afternoon bells from a church? And so you do have to find another angle that's going to respond to those arguments that you know they're going to make. And my bottom line is, you want to practice your religion. That's what the Constitution protected. It didn't protect the mass broadcast of it and the imposition of it on other people. If people take issue with the church bells, you live in a nation that was founded on Christian principles, whether you like it or not.

1:00:24It might not be a Christian nation, though some argue that it is. You move there, you live there, you live by the dictates of that country. And this is, some people are going to say, Viva, you know, we'll now do the Jews. And, you know, up in Westmount, where I used to live, they would put the thing, it's called an eruve, like a fishing line around the municipality so that Jews could carry umbrellas because it would be within a perimeter of their home. And, you know, and some people are saying, I don't want a fishing line, even if it's as infinitesimally non-observable as a fishing line, I don't want these types of municipal concessions for religious beliefs.

1:00:54And I can understand that. You live in Quebec as a province. If you don't want to speak French, There are plenty of other English provinces to live in. There's plenty of other English countries to live in. You want to practice your religion in peace. That's what America and the Constitution provides to you, not the right to blast it out for other non-Muslims or other people of different religions to have to be subjected to on a daily basis. Much in the same way, hey, you want to slaughter animals the way you do back in certain countries? We're not going to tolerate that on the streets either, even if it's customary in the lands from which you moved into this one.

1:01:23You assimilate and you abide by the rules of the country that you moved to. If you don't like them, there's plenty of other places for you to stay or go. Gad, can you address, because Viva, that was really well said. Can you address maybe a little bit of the distinction as it relates specifically on the religious side? Because the Arab that he's talking about or the bells that may go off once a week, to me there is some distinction there between that and the call to prayer in terms of a proselytizing religion that is designed to make people submit. But I'm actually sympathetic to what Viva just said right there.

1:01:57Like I can fully get the secular argument that you could potentially ban all of it. I don't think banning church bells is a good idea, but I can get on board some of that sort of philosophically.

1:02:06Gad Saad:Yeah, look, boxing is a sport that starts with the letter B and badminton is a sport that starts with the letter B. Yet they don't have equal proclivity of causing brain damage, right? despite the fact that an imbecile would place them as they're both B and they're both sports. So religions are grossly different from each other because their contents matter. In Judaism, it is strictly forbidden to proselytize. As a matter of fact, if you want to join the club, we're going to put you through so many obstacles that short of you being incredibly committed spiritually to becoming a Jew, you're going to say, this is not worth my time, I'm out.

1:02:48Gad Saad:Whereas in Islam, you say one sentence publicly and voila, you've become Muslim. This is why Islam as a marketing practice is brilliant, two brilliant people. Jews suck in marketing their religion. They've been 15 million. How much were they around the Holocaust? It was about 15 million as well. We just were about the same as we were back then, right? Precisely because the content of the religion matters. So when you come into the West and you're few in numbers, you play victim. but why God, why God, right? I mean, I understand this. I speak this language. I get it in every one of its timbers.

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1:04:50The implication being that as we as we make giant corporate conglomerates that own all of our dreams bigger and bigger, not only will everything go woke, but it will all become homogenized drivel. You know, we don't have to go into what Disney did to Star Wars and the fact that one corporation, Disney, owns both the Star Wars universe and the Marvel universe. Maybe that's not good for creativity. Viva, there's two parts to this. There's the business side and the creative side. The creative side is kind of what bothers me more. If corporations want to combine, you know, I'm for capitalism, so I'll kind of let it be.

1:05:27But the creative side of this just seems terrible to me. Well, it's funny. It was a long time ago, Neil Oliver, you know, the British journalist, he was on my channel. He said something I haven't forgotten, and it applies in a variety of circumstances. is we were talking about something where I said, you know, is the government getting too big to fail? And he said, no, it's getting too big to succeed. Like, it's getting too big to survive. And there's a, you know, like stars get big and they get so big, they collapse and they become black holes. And then, you know, they still go through cycles.

1:05:56This is going to be bad for business and bad for creativity. And it's going to get too big to survive. Like, Netflix is having its problems already with the scandal with Stranger Things, which I'm now thoroughly on the fence of was absolutely, you know, CP obscene. But they're going to merge. They're going to lose creativity. They're going to have a monopoly to some extent, but they're going to go bankrupt and they're going to lose eyeballs to totally independent creators and especially to potentially AI independent creators that are going to make more compelling crap than what we're getting from these people.

1:06:25So they'll get so big and then like a star, they'll collapse and or blow up into a supernova. They're going to get too big to survive. And I see that's where it's going. You know, it's interesting. That's exactly the question I was going to ask, Adam. I've been watching, you know, Star Wars, everyone knows my feelings about it. It's been so wrecked by Disney and everything else, and most people agree with that. And I've caught on YouTube lately a few AI-created, they're short videos, you know, like four minutes or so, AI-created Star Wars movies by fans. And although the AI is not quite there yet, so obviously it doesn't look quite as good as what Disney could pump out, the stories are so much richer, so much more interesting and compelling and truthful and fit the archetypes that they're supposed to and everything else.

1:07:06So, Gad, is that really the sort of silver lining here? It's like these companies can all do whatever the hell they want, but we are on a technological precipice of you will be able to create whatever you want and if you can't create it for yourself, someone will create it for you and it'll just be more authentic and real

1:07:23Gad Saad:than what a corporation can pump out. And the free market will react to our earlier point when we were talking about people leaving California as the ultimate metric of what people feel about California. The same thing will happen here. I'll mention another example that you're probably both familiar with. So woke capitalism is very much rooted in suicidal empathy because you're not trying to maximize the fiduciary responsibility of maximizing short-term profits for your stakeholders, shareholders. there is a higher goal here. You have to elevate marginalized voices. So you probably both remember the Jaguar ad campaign where it just showed a bunch of outrageous sort of two-spirit, non-binary and so on without a single car within 17 miles of that thing.

1:08:13Gad Saad:And do you remember what in his beautiful pithiness Elon wrote as a response? He said, hey, do you still sell cars, right? And guess what happened? They had a catastrophic reaction from the market. So the good news is we are still a somewhat free society and the free, the invisible hand of the market, as Adam Smith thought us, will punish these idiots. You know, we covered that ad. And if I'm not mistaken, that campaign, they sold something like 11 cars. That's how absolutely insane it was. Guys, let's end with this because it's a Friday. It's been an emotional week and I want to do something with midgets.

1:08:51Go. But the moment we have dwarf roles, which are the most famous dwarf roles in Hollywood history, then the only people apparently you can't play them are dwarf actors. And I see there stinking hypocrisy. It has not changed. It was a cartoon. Those weren't actually dwarfs in the movie. They were drawn. Okay. So firstly, they were drawn as dwarfs. No, that is. But it's a story about dwarfs. Well, they shouldn't be called dwarfs. They shouldn't be called dwarfs. No, they should be called people with warfism. What's wrong with being called dwarves? Nothing, but that's not the correct term. That's the story.

1:09:25Dylan, apparently you're not allowed to call yourself dwarves. Apparently, Dylan, you're not allowed to call yourself dwarves, apparently. I would love to hear, what should I call myself, sir? I think you should call yourself whatever you feel comfortable with. I'm actually exposing the hypocrisy of the woke mentality of only gay people can play gay parts, only trans actors can play trans parts, and so on and so on and so on. I think we will get to a place where everyone can play every role. Right to the point, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves has to be cancelled because you're not allowed to have dwarf eyes.

1:09:55You should be happy, Piers, because it means that now you can play your dream role of grumpy. That leftist thing that I think his name's Owen something or other, the fact that he's there, he's a mental midget telling an actual midget what he should be... Yeah, Gad, go ahead.

1:10:08Gad Saad:Can I give you a personal story? That, that, I don't know, lady boy. Boy, whenever I appear on Pierce, I always tell the producers, I only do one-on-one because I don't want to do that whole stuff that Pierce does. And so they said, okay, absolutely, Professor, we promise you. So it was supposed to be me and Pierce talking ostensibly about his latest book, you know, The End of Wokeness and so on. And then they said it was a technical glitch. I'm not sure it was. then I was ambushed by all of these wokesters, including that lady boy. I think I was rather calm and collected. But yes, I am intimately familiar with that mental midget.

1:10:52Again, I'm not that familiar with the technical part of what goes on here, but I will confer with Connor after it. I'm pretty sure that was not a technical error on their part. That was what we call a sandbagging in the industry. Viva, bring us home. Well, better a sandbagging than a teabagging. and pierce morgan still has me blocked on twitter that coward um i'll bring you home we just saw the male uh incarnate of uh sarah stalker from earlier on she's ashamed of being white and he is telling the the dwarf that he can't call himself dwarf because the big white man knows what's better for the dwarf than the dwarf himself this is dwarf denialism this is erasure of dwarfdom from the world that white dude saying you you dwarves who had a market in movies if only because you know you're playing the dwarves or comedic, whatever.

1:11:37It might not be right, but at least you had jobs. Now he's saying, no, you're all going to be out of work and you're going to have to go back to the freak show circuses. Who was the guy that did it? P.T. Barnum. You're going to have to go to be a P.T. Barnum sideshow and no longer mainstream acceptance. That is the pet projects that white liberals have. They like to control people who they consider to be their inferiors. Gentlemen, you are both pro-dwarf and intellectual giant. Have a nice weekend. Thank you, you too.

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