JD Vance Reveals the Truth About Iran 'Walking Out' of Peace Talks

22 Jun 2026 · 1 h 4 min · 28 chapters

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In short

Update on U.S.-Iran negotiations in Switzerland, including claims about reopening the Strait of Hormuz, regional ceasefire “deconfliction,” and Iran agreeing to allow IAEA inspectors back into Iran; plus commentary on UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s resignation, the Obama Presidential Library opening in Chicago, and U.S. domestic political scandals.

Guests

No named guests appear in the provided transcript (the episode is Dave Rubin speaking, with quoted/mentioned commentators such as Scott Jennings and Bill Maher clips).

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Key claims

  1. Negotiations are progressing: Strait of Hormuz is “open,” oil/gas flows increased, and a deconfliction mechanism is being set up for Israel–Hezbollah incidents.
  2. Iran agreed to invite IAEA inspectors back, framed as a major step toward ending Iran’s nuclear weapons program.
  3. Iran threatened to “walk out” but did not; teams stayed negotiating past 1 a.m.
  4. Israel is not invited to the talks, despite being the primary target of Iran/Hezbollah attacks.
  5. Qatar’s role is portrayed as influential despite its small population.

Notable examples

  • Video optics of Iranian delegation leaving and returning.
  • Qatari PM snubbing JD Vance.
  • Lebanon/Hezbollah as the main sticking point (Lebanese government wants Hezbollah out).

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Chapters

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Personal Reflections and Upcoming Topics

0:45 to 1:55

Rubin reflects on his recent health issues and outlines topics for discussion.

“And you can see we have slightly removed at least a portion of our contraption to keep my arm up here.”

Overview of Iran Negotiations

1:55 to 3:19

Rubin provides context on the current Iran negotiations happening in Switzerland.

“We're gonna start with, get you caught up on what's going on with these Iran negotiations.”

Key Objectives in the Negotiations

3:19 to 5:32

Rubin discusses the objectives of the American delegation in the talks with Iran.

“We did exactly what we wanted to do, which is accomplish four things for the American people.”

The Role of Hezbollah and Regional Dynamics

5:32 to 7:29

Rubin examines Hezbollah's influence in the negotiations and regional tensions.

“So that does seem a little odd to me, but I think, all right, two points that he made right there.”

The Iranian Delegation's Behavior

7:29 to 9:24

Rubin analyzes the optics surrounding the Iranian delegation's actions during the talks.

“of these negotiations, because at first it looked like the Iranians were gonna walk out altogether.”

Qatar's Involvement in the Negotiations

9:24 to 12:18

Rubin discusses Qatar's role in the negotiations and its geopolitical significance.

“I think only a couple hundred thousand, if I'm not mistaken.”

Lebanon Sticking Points and Progress

12:18 to 14:01

Rubin outlines the issues related to Lebanon and Hezbollah in the negotiations.

“Would not be here without his statesmanship.”

Middle East Tensions and Peace Talks

14:01 to 17:51

Discusses the situation in Lebanon involving Hezbollah and Iran's role in regional conflicts.

“in terms of military still seems to be Lebanon because the Lebanese government want Hezbollah out.”

Trump's Stance on Iran and Peace

17:51 to 19:14

Analyzes Trump's aggressive approach to Iran and the implications for peace negotiations.

“He's ended a conflict on terms that, frankly, I think politically the American people are gonna agree with.”

Trump's Stance on Iran and Peace

19:15 to 20:32

Analyzes Trump's aggressive approach to Iran and the implications for peace negotiations.

“Let's talk about relief factor for a second.”
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Political Turmoil in Britain: Starmer Resigns

20:39 to 24:00

Examines Keir Starmer's resignation amid party turmoil and election losses.

“I think at least for now, we can still consider Britain part of the Western world.”

The Leadership Crisis in the UK

24:00 to 27:18

Discusses the leadership failures of recent UK Prime Ministers and Starmer's impact.

“and needed you and you were prime minister and did nothing about the British, about the rape gangs and all of these things, like you were just kind of nothing.”

Understanding Young Washington

28:00 to 28:35

Explore the story of George Washington's early challenges and achievements.

“It's the story of George Washington before he became president.”

Critique of Obama's Library Design

28:41 to 29:49

A critical look at the architectural choices for Obama's library.

“And yes, we will get you the numbers on how many people were shot and killed.”

Michelle Obama's Dreamers Speech

29:49 to 31:06

Discussion on Michelle Obama's comments regarding immigrants as the heart of America.

“the Ojibwe, the Odawa, and the Pottawanabe nations.”

Conflating Legal and Illegal Immigration

31:06 to 33:19

Exploration of the distinction between legal and illegal immigration in political discourse.

“If I just go around this room and I ask the six people here, well, where did your ancestors come from?”

Voter ID and Healthcare Issues

33:19 to 34:28

Examination of the irony in ID requirements for events versus voting rights.

“And common sense, it's like, you guys want common sense?”

Chicago Violence and Political Accountability

34:28 to 35:58

Discussion on recent violence in Chicago and political responses to it.

“And that's been to the detriment of every American.”

Gavin Newsom's Financial Investigations

36:54 to 39:39

Analysis of the investigations into Gavin Newsom's finances and associated controversies.

“Get your free quote at ethos.com slash Rubin.”

Newsom's Nonprofit and Political Relationships

39:39 to 42:00

Discussion on the implications of Newsom's wife's nonprofit and its financial ties.

“Gavin Newsom's wife was laundering herself so much money from her NGO.”

Gavin Newsom and Elon Musk's Evolving Dynamics

42:00 to 45:00

Discussion on the changing perceptions of Gavin Newsom and Elon Musk's relationship.

“Like, all right, so we'll see what happens with that.”

Education and the State of Higher Learning

45:00 to 47:20

Analysis of the performance and issues within California's education system.

“Let's do a little Mondays with Maher, shall we?”

The Controversy of Pride Month in Education

47:20 to 51:40

Critique of the inclusion of LGBTQ+ topics in public education and its implications.

“If anything, this is slightly pro-crack, this meme, but that's not the point.”

Political Propaganda and Public Perception

51:40 to 56:04

Discussion on the perceived propaganda in media and its effect on societal values.

“And the reality is that when you give gay people a month and veterans a day, I think you have wildly lost sight of your values and your priorities.”

Power Dynamics in American Politics

56:04 to 58:10

Explore the shifting political landscape in America and the implications of urban versus rural governance.

“Is that get rid of the Electoral College?”

AI's Role in the Future

58:10 to 1:00:00

Discuss the transformative impact of AI and robotics on society and the economy.

“And there is so much positivity happening.”

Positive Messaging on Innovation

1:00:00 to 1:02:10

Highlight the importance of optimism in messaging about technology and innovation.

“Like we need to have the best and the brightest innovators leading so that we don't fall behind China and other countries when it comes to AI energy and more.”

Nostalgia for Early Technology

1:02:10 to 1:03:41

Reflect on early technology through the lens of a nostalgic video game from the 80s.

“It's going to put all of you out of jobs, while at the same time they're like, and we should also have minimum wage be higher, which will, I guess, put more of you out of jobs earlier.”
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0:00Previously on The Rubin. Do you have any physical ailments you'd like to get off your chest? I was going to just ask what the age demographic of your audience is. The vast majority of sexual crime is committed by white men. He's taken every side of every issue forever. Who's straight? R-street! Queers for Palestine is very different than Palestine for queers.

0:42All right, what's going on, people? It is June 22nd, 2026. I'm Dave Rubin. This is the Rubin Report. And you can see we have slightly removed at least a portion of our contraption to keep my arm up here. I went to my checkup this morning. We did more x-rays. I'm healing well, probably a couple more weeks in this thing, then we start some physical therapy. July 1st, stem cells, and we will see what happens. But I really do wanna thank everybody for the kind words and people who are offering all sorts of therapeutics and ideas and ways to recover better. And I do appreciate it. I just have to say, I truly, it's very rare for me, but I really was in a bit of a depression last week after this thing, and I'm rolling into my 50th on this Friday, the 26th is my 50th birthday.

1:30And I've been feeling so good about life and physically and emotionally and spiritually and all that stuff. And then this thing just happened out of nowhere. And I try not to get too lost in the comments when they're good or when they're negative, but there was a real outpouring of love. And then of course, Father's Day was great and all that. So I hope everybody's good. I'm feeling pretty good, a little bit of pain, but feeling good about life and the state of the world. So let's do some stuff. We're gonna start with, get you caught up on what's going on with these Iran negotiations. Then I think it happened just this morning, Keir Starmer stepping down as UK prime minister.

2:04There's been rumors about this for weeks. The guy has been ineffectual and I would say pretty terrible across the board. He is on his way out. A little bit from the Chicago opening of the Obama library, which is perhaps the ugliest building in American history. and then we'll end with some positive stuff on AI and the future. So let's dive in. So right now, negotiations are happening in Switzerland, between America, between Iran, Pakistan is somehow involved, Qatar, which is basic, which is barely a country other than they have a crap load, boatload of money. So they're somehow, they have their fingerprints on everything.

2:46They're there and as you know, J.D. Vance is leading the American delegation. Now there was all sorts of stuff over the weekend and I try not to tweet too much or pay too much attention on the weekends. There was all sorts of stuff, rumors, conjecture, is this thing falling apart? Is it happening? I'm not gonna get too deep into any of that stuff. I'm gonna try to keep it as factually based, like actual statements and concrete things as possible. So to give you the cleanest update, here is where we are at according to J.D. right now. Yesterday was a very, very good day. We made a lot of good progress.

3:22We did exactly what we wanted to do, which is accomplish four things for the American people. First, we wanted to build a mechanism for keeping the Strait of Hormuz open. It is open. We've seen, of course, gas prices and oil prices come down, millions and millions of barrels of crude and natural gas flowing through the Strait of Hormuz that weren't flowing before. Number two, we also wanted to build a mechanism, a similar mechanism, for deconfliction for the regional ceasefire. As the President of the United States has himself said, sometimes these ceasefires just mean you're shooting a little bit less, but we wanted to make sure that we had the proper coordination set up so that if there is shooting, if Hezbollah fires at Israel or if Israel responds, if there are other conflicts that arise in the region, we're actually talking to each other and figuring out how to stop the shooting, how to make the region safer, our allies and everybody else.

4:17Okay, so we're going to get to some of the rest of the stuff that was discussed. But basically, the negotiations seem to have moved forward a little bit. Strait of Hormuz is open at the moment. Now, you might say, Dave, the Strait of Hormuz was open before this whole thing began. So is that much of an accomplishment? Well, it's been closed. So that has reopened. That's good. then figuring out how to deal with Hezbollah, which is a terrorist organization funded by Iran that's in Lebanon, that the Lebanese president even said last week, they want them out. If Iran will stop funding them and they stop firing rockets into Israel, then Israel will stop firing rockets into Lebanon.

4:56So hopefully there's a little bit of movement on there. There is something weird going on with the negotiations in that Israel, which not only was fighting alongside of America throughout this, but is getting the brunt of the hits, right? Most of the rockets that Iran shot were at Israel, Hezbollah shooting out of Lebanon. They're not even invited to these negotiations. So in essence, you have a party that is clearly integral into the future of the Middle East, whether some of these guys like it or not. And they're supposed to abide by negotiations that they're not even allowed to be at. So that does seem a little odd to me, but I think, all right, two points that he made right there.

5:36Also, gas prices do seem to be going down. Here's a little bit more. Number three, we, and this is probably what we're most excited about as Americans, the Iranians have agreed to invite IAEA inspectors back into their country. That is a major milestone for the American people and the first step in permanently denuclearizing or permanently ending a nuclear weapons program in Iran. Okay, so this one is interesting because obviously the whole point of this, Donald Trump for 40 years, Iran should not get a nuclear weapon. They're not going to get a nuclear weapon. That was the position of Barack Obama.

6:12It was the position, the stated position of Joe Biden and presidents before them, and nobody wanted to do anything. So the idea that we've done massive military damage to the nuclear program, there is stuff that is buried that someone's going to have to figure out where it is and how to get it out and everything else, but that these inspectors will go back in. And as I've said, I've said it repeatedly last week, like, do I really trust these inspectors? I don't know, but here is where we're at, right? Like, I don't trust the UN at all. I would like to believe that the IAEA nuclear inspectors are a little more honest or a little less compromised, perhaps, than just have a sending the UN, yes, the UN is just gonna wander in there.

6:49The UN, by the way, was supposed to be in charge of South Lebanon to make sure Hezbollah wasn't building up rockets to attack Israel. They've been supposed to be doing that for the last 10 years or so, and they didn't do anything on that front. So maybe there's some movement there. But again, my hesitancy of all of this is that I believe Donald Trump will do everything that he can over the course of the next two and a half years to make sure Iran abides by whatever is signed and that they won't get nukes under him. The question is, if a Democrat comes in right after this, why wouldn't they just rip it up?

7:19And why wouldn't they build the freaking nuclear bomb and hand it to the Iranians? That's where we're at with the Democrats. It just is. Anyway, we'll get into a little bit of the drama of these negotiations, because at first it looked like the Iranians were gonna walk out altogether. A short video here of the Iranian delegation showing up to Switzerland. Now, the Americans were there first, which is also a lot of people say in these negotiations that if you're the party in power, you don't show up first. Okay, we've seen enough mafia movies. You could probably argue it either way. But here's the Iranian delegation leaving the venue amidst some of the craziness.

8:12Okay, so they just wandered out and you can see, CJD's kinda looking around like what the hell's going on here? However, they did come back. So again, a lot of this is just showmanship. You gotta also keep in mind, They want video clips that they can show on Iranian state TV, like we walked in and we walked out and there was JD and everything else. So you have to take all of this stuff with a little bit of grain of salt. But here is JD on what actually happened when everyone sat down. Can I tell us what happened? No, they didn't throw a wrench in the system. The thing with the Iranians, yes, they did threaten to walk out, or at least there were social media threats that they would walk out.

8:47But we were negotiating well past one in the morning yesterday, so they didn't walk out. and their technical team is still here in Bergenstock working with our technical team actually as we speak. Though I imagine maybe some of them are taking a break to watch this news conference. Okay, so again, like there are some optics around this. They wanna walk in, get video, walk out, but the teams are there and they are negotiating. And now there's this weird thing with Qatar. Again, maybe throw up a map of the Middle East. Can we do one of those? Qatar is basically, you know, a lot of people call it, it's just like a souped up gas station.

9:20It basically is a tiny, tiny country. How many citizens, actual citizens of Qatar are there? I think only a couple hundred thousand, if I'm not mistaken. And then they've imported, I think like a million foreigners and they take their IDs and they basically live as slaves, but it's basically just an oil producing sort of, well, you might call it an oligarchy actually, a real oligarchy. So you can see it's a tiny, tiny little nation right there, but it's got an insane amount of money and it is given billions of billions of dollars all across the Western world to fund education and a whole bunch of stuff.

9:56Much of the bad stuff happening in the West is because of Qatar. But because at the end of the day, they've got cash, they are involved in these negotiations. Iran was also firing rockets at them during some of this. But here is a video of Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman. And he was snubbing JD here, which was a little bizarre.

10:28Okay,

10:33so again, I don't wanna get too lost in the optics stuff, but like if that's Donald Trump, nobody walks by Donald Trump. So like, and why was the Qatari guy? I mean, we've been, I would say, probably too friendly to the Qatari government. Why would he be snubbing JD unless he was trying to signal to Iran, like I'm still with you guys. But I think one of the things that JD is up against is that one day we are going to be post Trump one way or another, right? And Trump, love him, hate him, whatever it is, the guy looms large. He walks in, he's the big gorilla in the room, right? He's the boss, as that video we showed you last week, I'm the boss, like everyone knows it.

11:14I've been in rooms with him and trust me, there is something, some people have this, this kind of star power kind of thing. Like he walks into a room and everyone is just focused on him. Michael Jordan walks in a room, everyone's focused on him. Some people just have that, it transcends wealth or something, there's just an aura about somebody. And I think JD was in that room, Clearly, he just kind of didn't have that. Now I'm not pooping on what's going on with the negotiations because they do seem to be going well, but that's something that whoever comes after Trump is gonna have to deal with, that Trump was this absolutely unique thing, is this absolutely unique thing, and other world leaders are gonna look at whoever comes next and probably not see that.

12:02Then JD had this line that people were kind of mocking him for, take a look. I have joked that I have two very, very important people in my life, an Indian and a Pakistani. The Indian is my wife, and the Pakistani is Field Marshal Muneer. And I've probably talked to Field Marshal Muneer more than I've talked to anybody else over the last three months. Would not be here without his statesmanship. He is a military leader, but I think he's shown himself to be a great diplomat. All right, so he's got the Indian wife. Everyone knows that. And I do think he's going to have some problems when he eventually runs for president with the kind of woke right people who don't like him having a brown wife.

12:36That's a brown Indian non-Catholic wife. That's one thing. But then to sort of glaze the guy from Pakistan, it's like Pakistan is not a friendly Western country. I get we were doing some of these negotiations in Islamabad, but to be like patting that guy as if he's so great, as if Pakistan is just such a wonderful country and everything else is, I don't know, a little bit silly. Then this is the image that kind of went viral from so much of this. What you've got there, obviously, is JD. He's working on the laptop. That's the Qatari prime minister right over there. And obviously Jared Kushner over his shoulder.

13:13What's interesting about this picture is if you look at the card that's in the laptop, it looks like some sort of security clearance card. It's not JD's face on the card. And it's like, should the Qatari prime minister be looking? Something just the whole image of this thing, the optics of this thing and Kushner over JD's shoulder. The whole thing feels kind of weird. But again, I'm really trying, guys, right now. I'm really trying to give everybody the benefit of the doubt. Here we are, two and a half months into this war, and we've concluded the military part. And I think everyone, whether you think JD made a silly joke or he got snubbed, he has said a few things that I thought were a little odd.

13:51I'm not even showing them today because it's just like, maybe we're putting some pieces together here, and I think these guys just deserve the credit for, or just deserve a little bit of a leash with that. Now, the main sticking point still seems to be in terms of military still seems to be Lebanon because the Lebanese government want Hezbollah out. Hezbollah is funded by Iran. And if Iran just shuts the money off, then this terrorist organization, which is basically holding Lebanon hostage, would have to leave in essence. And then there's no border dispute between Israel and Lebanon. It would just go back to the way everything was on October 6th, 2023, when there was a, you know, it's just a cold peace.

14:30We don't really like you, you don't really like us, but let's just let it be. Here's J.D. with a bit more on what's going on with Lebanon. Would you describe the progress on Lebanon? I know Mr. Arachi said it was very good progress, but what's your characterization of it? Yeah, I would describe it as very good progress, too. I mean, look, we want a regional ceasefire, right? We want Hezbollah to stop firing at our friends in Israel. We want Israelis to be able to live in peace. We also want to make sure that, you know, when things happen, they don't spiral into a broader escalation. And so we've been, I think, very good at setting up what we're calling a deconfliction mechanism.

15:03But what it really is is to say that when things happen, the sides are actually talking to one another. Sometimes, you know, you've got a bit of a chicken and egg problem, that you've got a junior guy who fires a drone that didn't have approval from the high command. Okay, of course, Israel has to respond to that. But then sometimes that response, we could actually have a better and more peaceful situation if Israel responds in the context of a conversation that's ongoing between Hezbollah, Lebanon, Israel, and other partners in the region. All right, again, some of this, I took the sling off.

15:39I got my arm out of thing here. Everybody, it seems to me like some of that is just kind of gobbledygook and not exactly how the Middle East operates and people only operate with power and you have to sort of overwhelm your opponents because they'll just keep trying to get you. And if you like, think about it, If you were Israel and a group of terrorists are firing rockets through your borders, and you have, I think it's about 300 ,000 people that are displaced from the North, what would we do? What would we do? So, okay, maybe it was a junior guy in Hezbollah that did it. But anyway, all of this to say, they're trying to figure, it seems to me they're trying to figure out some solution there.

16:17The fact they're not even allowing Israel into their room on this seems again, a little bit odd. And for all of those woke right nutbags and Tucker and Meghan and all you, I'm looking at you, who for months were saying, oh, Israel's in charge of Trump, Israel's in charge of Trump. Israel isn't even allowed to be at these negotiations because the Qataris and the Pakistanis and everyone else won't even sit down with them. That's how sort of ludicrous this whole thing is. But I do, again, I do trust Trump here, and I do think they are gonna figure out a way either to make sure Iran does not fund Hezbollah, or if they do, that there's going to be an overwhelming military response.

16:52This from Trump, on truth, Iran must immediately stop their highly paid proxies in Lebanon from causing trouble. If they don't, we'll hit Iran very hard again, just like we did last week. Only harder, President Donald J. Trump. So it's interesting that Trump's putting that up while they're all having the talks. So JD's going, you know, we should all talk. Let's figure this thing out. Hey, junior guy fired over something. Maybe you don't have to respond so crazy. Let's all get on the phone, kumbaya. And Trump's saying, hey, it's as simple as this. Put it up one more time. I mean, he's basically just like, Like if you highly paid, he knows who's paying them, right?

17:25It's Iran paying them. And if you don't, so this is carrot and stick. This is peace through strength and everything else. So I do sense, again, I am skeptical as hell. I really am, but I am not gonna run around. I'm not gonna be a panic in after all this time. Ow, I can't emote too much. That's what I'm learning. I'm just not gonna be. I just think we have to give the thing a chance and let's see what happened. Here's Scott Jennings with more just kind of sobering reality of where we're at. Look, here's what he's done. He's ended a conflict on terms that, frankly, I think politically the American people are gonna agree with.

18:02Iran has agreed they will not pursue or have nuclear weapons. They have to be held to that. These people have to be held accountable and no one should trust them any farther than they can throw them. But that's what they've agreed to. The Strait of Hormuz is gonna open, the oil is gonna flow and that's gonna bring down energy prices. that, you know, as Paul and I have argued on this network many times, the war was, you know, somewhat unpopular in the polling. Ending the war, therefore, is probably going to be popular, particularly if gas prices go down and the Iranians are held to account when it comes to nuclear weapons.

18:32So I think the president here, he destroyed their military. Their Navy is at the bottom of the ocean. They have no air force to speak of. And, you know, they've agreed on paper, at least, to give up any ambitions for nuclear weapons. I think the president's right to call and I think we'll call it a win. Yeah, I agree with that. Obviously the on paper, at least, that's the key part. Are we gonna trust these IAEA inspectors? Are they really gonna know where to go? And are the Iranians gonna do things on the DL? Are they gonna have Pakistan on the DL, building them nuclear weapons that they could maybe move over there?

19:02Like who the hell knows? But I would say to not sound so ridiculously corny, like in this case, give peace a chance. Like let's just see. So we'll pause on that. We'll move on to some other stuff. Let's talk about relief factor for a second. Joseph, can you bring my relief factor over here because I only have one arm. You guys know I like relief factor. And look at this, he's going to even open my, wow, that was very Price is Right of you, okay. And now can you stand on that thing and spin with the car? That's what they used to do. That's good. All right, he's gonna give me some of my relief factor, which I do pop every day, particularly now.

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20:53Boris, obviously, Elizabeth Truss, Rishi Sunak, and now Keir Starmer all going down. This is just as of this morning. Here from Fox, Britain's prime minister, Keir Starmer, announced Monday that he will resign following a mounting revolt inside the Labour Party after devastating local election losses, the resignation of government ministers, and growing pressure from senior members of his own cabinet. Starmer said he would step down as prime minister and labor leader after concluding he could no longer unite the party, but is expected to remain in office until his successor is chosen. The announcement follows weeks of turmoil inside Britain's ruling party after labor lost roughly 1 ,500 council seats and control of more than 25 councils in local elections last month, according to reporting from UK outlets.

21:37The losses were fueled by major gains from Nigel Farage's Reform UK Party in Labour's traditional strongholds and by Green Party advances in urban areas. Starmer's domestic troubles deepened after a damaging dispute with President Trump over the Iran conflict earlier this year. The British prime minister initially resisted US requests to use British bases during the military operations against Iran, prompting Trump to criticize him publicly, saying this is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with on March 3rd. And Winston Churchill, he is not. Now there's something interesting here about the British electorate, because if you were listening to that, so basically, Nigel's party, so that's the more nationalist party.

22:19You might think of them a little bit more of the Republican party, let's say. The Labour party is more the Democrat party. So they lost because Nigel's party did extremely well, gained a few seats, and they are talking about strong borders and deportation and everything else. But the counter to that is the Labour Party also lost to the Green Party. And the Green Party is basically our progressive movement. It is the free Palestine wackos and they hate their country and all of the stuff. That's them. So something very strange happened. You might argue that Starmer, who was awful, Starmer was basically Biden.

22:55It was just like you're supposed to be kind of moderate lefty, but you're just absolutely awful. Well, he wasn't awful enough for the Greens. So they went after him and they did well. And then on the right, now Nigel's party did well. So Starmer's screwed. He's just been terrible. Also, and by the way, this is to the backdrop of the massive report by Rupert Lowe last week, about the 250 ,000 girls who were molested and raped by these British Muslim Pakistani gangs over the course of at least a decade. So there's so much bad stuff around this guy. It's just kind of crazy. but here's a little bit of his resignation speech.

23:35And when I leave the biggest job in the country, I shall spend more time on the most important job, being the best husband I can to my fantastic wife, Vic, who has been a rock by my side through good times and bad, and being the best dad I can to my beautiful children who are my pride and my joy. Thank you very much.

24:30and needed you and you were prime minister and did nothing about the British, about the rape gangs and all of these things, like you were just kind of nothing. So, all right, you wanna cry on your way out, you can cry, but I'm with Trump on this one here on Truth. Keir Starmer will resign as prime minister of the United Kingdom. He failed badly on two very important subjects, immigration and energy, open North Sea oil. I wish him well, President Donald Trump. Yeah, I mean, again, they had Rishi Sunak, they had Liz Truss, who I interviewed and I liked her a lot, but they've had a bunch of these people and they just kind of come and go and none of them lead.

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25:04And that sort of connects to what I was talking about with JD being snubbed. It's like one day when we are post Trump, I think we will all look back and go, my God, how did this person come just in the nick of time? And hopefully things will continue to go well over the next couple of years. But like you want someone I think as the leader of your country who has a commanding presence. That's one part of it. You want them to believe the right things and act honorably and okay, whatever else. But like that guy, Keir Starmer, he's just, you're just a nothing in a suit. Like you're just nothing in a suit.

25:38And I think what JD with some of those snubs that he was experiencing is gonna have to figure out how to level up. Again, I'm all for these negotiations. I wanna give them a leash and everything else. I'm just talking about the optics part. Trump walks in a room, that never happens. And to sort of further that point, Here's Trump talking to Mark Caputo on that moment that we showed you last week where Trump said he's the boss. You mentioned the G7. You saw a number of world leaders. You walked in and you said, I'm the boss. How many of them believe that? All of them. But I was just being funny.

26:13What happened is they're all sitting. And then I walked into the room. And it was just sort of funny because a very long table, but there's only seven of them. The table is meant for like 30 people. But I walked in there, these leaders, and I just looked at them. I said, I'm the boss, and you remember. And you know that was done as a joke. This thing got carried all over the world. I can't believe it. I was just being cute, funny. I wasn't trying to be the boss. Yeah, you know, I'm showing you that not because it's so important, but Trump just, even the way he sits there, just grab a quick screenshot of the way he sits, that he sits like he's the head gorilla.

26:49You mentioned the G7. There's an optics and a power thing, right? Like you can just see it. It's kind of obvious, but then there's Trump just off the cuff making, I was just basically making a joke, but yeah, yeah, everybody knows that I'm the boss. And by the way, guys, whether after Trump, it is JD or it's Marco or it's anyone else, you want America to be the boss because someone's the boss at the end of the day. And if it ain't us, I guarantee you, it's gonna be somebody much, much worse. All right, we'll shift over to Chicago, where they opened the ugliest building in human history in just a second.

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28:31If you're looking for a meaningful way to celebrate America's 250th, this is a great place to start. Go to angel.com slash Ruben and become a premium Angel Guild member today. All right, let's go to Chicago. And yes, we will get you the numbers on how many people were shot and killed. and it was a lot, but first, Obama's library. Look at this freaking thing. Look at that. That is the most brutalist, awful version of, if you wanna call that modern architecture, I like modern buildings, I like clean lines. Usually I like glass and windows. Who built that thing and was like, you know what? No windows.

29:09We're just not gonna do windows. Anyway, the thing is just the ugliest thing ever. Everyone keeps pointing out that it literally looks like like the Jawas little thing that they were running around on, Tatooine. Look at that thing. That's what they were doing over there, where they were fixing up the droids and selling them to the mushroom farmers. But, of course, they opened the thing, and a lot of celebrities were there. Tom Hanks was there. Gavin Newsom were there. You know, the creme de la creme of people showed up in Chicago for this thing. And, of course, they started it with a land acknowledgement.

29:41We'd also like to take a moment to recognize the original inhabitants of the land upon which we are gathered today. We honor the Anishinaabe, the Council of Three Fires, the Ojibwe, the Odawa, and the Pottawanabe nations. Applaud! We honor them! We're not going to give them back the land or anything like that, but we're honoring them as we build this giant monstrosity on the land that we stole from them, according to them, right? Like, it's just, it's so absurd that they do these things. But the absurdity continued. Michelle Obama went up there and here she is explaining that dreamers, you know about the dreamers, that they are the beating heart of the USA.

30:23The immigrants proving what it truly means to be a dreamer. These folks. These folks aren't Americans, too. They are America. They are the beating heart of this country. They are us and we are them. No, lady. Okay, so fine, your parents brought you here and then you're here and you're a citizen. We're all the beating heart. Like it's just meaningless drivel. We're all, you know what I mean? Immigrants are the beating heart. You know what I mean? Legal immigrants, yes, we are a nation of immigrants. So you might argue that is like the key thing that ties all of us here, right? If I just go around this room and I ask the six people here, well, where did your ancestors come from?

31:14Where did your ancestors come from? Where did yours, when did they come? Well, we all came from immigrants and came here illegally. And then you might argue that is the beating heart. But of course, as always, they're always conflating legal and illegal immigration. It is worth noting that, you remember, we had the big UFC fight outside the White House the other day. Well, one of the terror plot perpetrators, we didn't even cover it. There was a bunch of guys that were trying to blow up the whole thing. His name is Abraham Alvarez. well, he was allowed to stay in the US under the Dream program.

31:45Surprise, surprise. Here's Barry, Barack Obama, with, well, we're going to juxtapose a little bit of his speech from over the weekend with him back in 2012. Enjoy. People aren't looking for perpetual anger and division. They are looking for fairness and common sense. So to all the young people out there, as well as those of you who consider yourselves young at heart, I want you to stay angry. I want you to stay frustrated. We're not looking for anger. Oh, here's me a while ago. Stay angry. You know, it's interesting though. Put aside the anger thing. I get it. They fake all of their stuff, right?

32:30They always want to make it seem like we're angry and they're tolerant and diverse or whatever. and they're happy with their rainbows and we're just all mean. And of course that's nonsense. But the other thing that he said, fairness and common sense. That's what they're into, fairness and common sense. Well, you guys also pushed DEI, which was institutionalized racism. So you wanted to discriminate against white and particularly Asian kids who were going into college or getting jobs at corporations or in the government. Is that fair? You were doing it in the name of diversity and equity and inclusion, but is that fair?

33:00Of course it is not fair. Ask the kid, ask the kid who did it right, the Korean, Chinese kid, it doesn't matter, whose parents came to America, worked real hard, taught him the right thing, did great in school and everything else, and then didn't get into Harvard so some kid with lower grades and a darker skin could get in. That's not fair. And common sense, it's like, you guys want common sense? Okay, Barack Obama is a guy who lives his life dressed up as a woman with a wig and calls himself Sally, a woman. Sally's a dude. Sally is a dude. Now, of course, the ultimate irony of all of this is that everything becomes political with these people because they've got nothing other than politics.

33:42Here is likely future Florida Governor Byron Donalds pointing out that, oh, you had to show an ID to show up to that thing, and, well, you get it. Look, I hear that you need an ID to be able to enter the facility. How ironic that you need an ID to get in there, but the same Democrat Party, still in some respects led by Barack Obama, does not want voter ID throughout the United States of America. I also wonder if they're going to have a time capsule exhibit on the price of health care before his health care plan went into effect. And it's driven up premiums and deductibles for Americans, rich or poor, black or white, all across this country.

34:20So I think it's indicative that the rental rates are going up because of this library, because the health care rates have gone up because of his health care policy. And that's been to the detriment of every American. Yeah, and that's just kind of right and true. To show up there, you needed an ID, just like you need an ID to get on a plane. I mean, I would assume there were some black people in the crowd on this thing. How the hell did they get on the plane? Nobody freaking knows. So, okay, point taken. And what else happened in Chicago this weekend? Well, 40 people were shot, eight murdered. You won't hear about this on mainstream media because it was all black people killing black people.

34:53Here's Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. So, yeah, it is personal.

35:03Black death has been unfortunately accepted in this country for a very long time. We had a chance 60 years ago to get at the root causes and people mocked President Johnson and we ended up with Richard Nixon.

35:22I'm going to work hard every day to transform this city. That's what it takes to build a better, stronger, safer Chicago and everybody step up. I can't. You know, I'm not taking pain meds during the day. I'm taking a little something at night, but maybe I should be because that was more painful than anything I'm going through right here. 60 years ago, we could have dealt with this and President Johnson, and somehow he's blaming Richard Nixon on the problems of today. Dude, you are the mayor of Chicago. If you are concerned about black death, how about you do something about it? But eight young black people were murdered in your town this weekend, and 32 others were shot, 40 total.

36:02You could do a little something, but you'd rather Richard Nixon. I don't even know where to begin with that. Get me another relief factor now. Let's talk about ethos for a second and then we'll do more on the other side. Guys, there comes a point in life when your idea of excitement changes. One day you're talking about vacations and gadgets and the next thing you're talking about things like life insurance. I've had life insurance for years because I believe it's one of the most important things that you can do and it's easy to put off, but if something happened to me, I'd want my family to focus on what matters, not added financial stress.

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37:11This from the Sacramento Bee. Federal investigators are digging into the finances of Gavin Newsom and his wife, first partner, Jennifer Siebel Newsom. The governor calls it a political attack tied to his expected 2028 presidential run, the Trump administration's Justice Department is probing the Newsom ties to nonprofits, taxes, and business dealings going back years. The U.S. Department of Justice is investigating Siebel Newsom's taxes and nonprofits connected to her and the governor, with several probes ongoing for about a year that originated from whistleblower complaints to the U.S. Attorney's Office in Sacramento.

37:48IRS and FBI agents have approached staff, friends and associates of the Newsom's in recent weeks and obtained their bank records. The governor's office said the probe intensified after Todd Blanche became acting head of the Department of Justice. One of the investigations is connected to Dana Williamson, Newsom's former chief of staff who pleaded guilty to fraud and lying to the FBI last month and faces up to 38 years in prison. Siebel Newsom earned about$2.3 million from the Representation Project nonprofit between 2011 and 2018. A 2021 Sacramento Bee investigation found more than 800 ,000 in donations to the nonprofit from companies that lobby the governor, including PG &E, AT &T, and Kaiser Permanente.

38:34Just days before the DOJ probe became public, the state's Fair Political Practices Commission fined Newsom$31 ,500 for failing to report 5.6 million in charitable donations on time, with most going to the California Fire Foundation during the 2025 Los Angeles wildfires. Newsom was late filing reports on so-called behested payments 34 times in 2025, and the governor has previously been fined for failing to disclose 14 million in donations between 2019 and 2024. Okay, so there's a lot there, and let me just say, these government investigations happen, and you usually know what happens. We all get worked up about it, and nobody ever pays the price in everything else.

39:17I despise Gavin Newsom. I think he is an evil lizard man. Does it seem like something is there? Yes. Does his wife seem like she's involved in some stuff? And why was she making so much money from these nonprofits? And who were nonprofits getting, like who gets all these government contracts? Like there's just so much. And we just know about the fraud and the laundering in Cali. Everything feels weird. Here's a bit more from Wall Street Apes. Gavin Newsom's wife was laundering herself so much money from her NGO. She was actually in the top 5 % for pay from all charities in the entire nation. But that's not all.

39:51Gavin Newsom bought his$3.7 million Sacramento estate. It was done through an LLC, but that LLC doesn't seem to have appeared on his tax returns. There's a lot of questions. He's released at least partly to journalists in closed door viewing sessions, his tax returns. And if you look at that, his income, it's about 1.2 to 1.4 million a year. And it just doesn't add up for all of his expenses. He's got massive mortgages. $625 ,000 in mortgage payments, and he's got at least 1 million in living expenses, and the two just don't add up. When I had a look at Jennifer Newsom's charity, I found that she was paying herself since 2012, 3.7 million, and this is a lot of money when you look at the amount the charity brings in.

40:35It's sort of a one to 1.7 million a year, and she's paying up to a third of that to herself and her own company,$300 ,000 a year. Now, I did a bit of data analysis, looking at what charities that size usually pay their executives. And she was in the top 5 % of all charities in the nation for pay. In the video included, more instances where Gavin Newsom laundered money to his wife, a million to block a casino project, five million to an office his wife has created. And he spent 300 from his donor PG &E to his wife's NGO. Okay, so again, I don't know that anything will come of this. It all feels very strange.

41:12She was clearly taking a huge amount of money from these nonprofits that she was working at and what were the connections between these nonprofits and government contracts and things, laws that got passed and everything else. They did show up to the Obama library. Apparently they had IDs and they were able to go and here's a reporter asking them and they're just so slimy. We heard from the governor, but we haven't heard from you yet about this investigation. What do you wanna say? I'm just so grateful for this inspiration and leadership. We need more of this. Hey, this is stuff that happens in other countries.

41:44That's all I'll say. Happens in other countries. That Jacob guy asking a question, he asks a question, she totally blows it off, like ignores him altogether. And then he's just, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, that's really, thank you for just blowing me off on national TV. Thank you for that. Like, all right, so we'll see what happens with that. I don't know how much we'll, but people are coming around to Gavin Newsom and that is good. The co-founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman, tells, well, he's one of these guys that is not great on most of the issues. And he went on Gavin's podcast. And of course, they had to make it about Elon.

42:24But Gavin just comes off as so awful go. So, look, people are dynamic. So the question is, where do they go as they get more power, more sycophants around them and so forth? And the answer is Elon became a narcissist who, who, he wasn't a narcissist. I think he was a small narcissist and now he's a big narcissist. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And like he lies through his teeth constantly. It just, I mean, I guess it, I mean, it's just a classic clinical definition of narcissism. Yeah. I set that clip up a little strangely, but the point of it was the idea that anyone would sit down with Gavin Newsom and call someone else a narcissist.

43:07Can we get the technical definition from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary of narcissist and perhaps some of the traits of a narcissist? Can we get narcissist and some of the traits? Because Gavin Newsom is the single biggest narcissist, perhaps in the history of the world. And all of these guys, Gav, you loved Elon for decades when he was building all of these things and you got all the revenue out of all of his companies. And then the second he just had different political views, mostly around free speech, you started going after him and now he has left Cali and taken his companies out of Cali and you're losing all of that revenue, which you're gonna have to make up somehow.

43:46But you used to love him, but that you can sit there. Can I, do I have a technical dictionary definition? I think we got something coming here. The technical definition of a narcissist, An individual showing symptoms of or affected by narcissism, such as an extremely self-centered person who has an exaggerated sense of importance. Who does that sound like? Like Elon is, Elon, the irony of Elon, I don't need to sit here and glaze Elon, but the irony of Elon is if anyone was allowed to be an egomaniac or a narcissist, I would say it's the guy who's building the rockets. I would say it's the guy who's building the robots.

44:23I would say it's the guy who's allowing paraplegics and quadriplegics to play chess with their mind, the guy who's building underground tunnels. You might say, you know, it comes with a little bit of ego. It's kind of earned. Where with this ding dong, Gavin, everything you've touched has turned to crap except your bank account. And then you go off on someone else's narcissism. I find that hard to believe. But what is nice is the worst that these lefties are, the worst that they are obvious in their anger and in their delusion and in their narcissism and their inability to govern properly and everything else, it does wake up decent people.

44:58I think you will enjoy this from Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday night. Let's do a little Mondays with Maher, shall we?

45:13It's a trade-off, I think, you know, in exchange for getting great weather, great schools, opportunities. Great schools. What's that? The schools? Higher ed, higher ed, higher ed. How do we know they're so great? Well, the UC system is, you know, Stanford. I don't know who's coming out of it and what they're learning. I mean, from what I see from the elite schools on the East Coast, they're s***. Right. The UC has produced a lot of Nobel laureates just this past year. They take a lot of kids who are first in their families to go to college. I mean, the UC system genuinely is working. Cal State is working.

45:46K through 12, there are issues. I mean, honestly, there are issues. I see kids demonstrating for Hamas. But I'm sure this is what this stuff is going on, too. Right. First off, Roe is just such an ineffectual. Now, the UC system is working. All right. U.S. News and World Report. You know what's number one in higher education? Yeah, it's Florida. Cali is 24th. OK, so that's just one thing. But Bill's broader point, like, look at the people that you're just putting out there, these brainwashed clone soldiers who are for Hamas, like completely absurd. And also the other guy. Well, it's a tradeoff.

46:15You know, we've got nice weather out here, but it doesn't have to be a tradeoff. The weather is nice whether you have competent governance or not. Right. That's the point. Like that you got, we have nice weather and we have good schools. Well, we just illustrated your schools are not good. And the weather thing is completely irrelevant, right? It is other, actually, if anything, that's more of a condemnation. You're right, Cali has such beautiful weather. Cali has such beautiful mountainous areas and you can go skiing and at the beach in the very same day and all of those things that it should be the place that is, you have so many advantages that you would think it would be flourishing more than anything else.

46:48And yet less people from Florida now leave during the summer because it's going so well here. And I will tell you, it is hot and there's a couple of mosquitoes. To Bill's point though, about how bad higher education is overall, this meme was going around. I think this is kind of effective. Before and after, the first image, that woman before and after cocaine, she was definitely doing better before. The guy, before and after alcohol. That guy was definitely, I mean, that's a lot of drinking right there. The crack lady, crack lady doesn't look so terrible. If anything, this is slightly pro-crack, this meme, but that's not the point.

47:24The point is college and that's a real image. I asked the guys, like this doesn't seem to be real, but that girl in the blue dress there, one year later is the other one. That college does do something to these kids and you should be very, very wary of where you send them. And it's not just college, right? We know this is hitting across the board. that why is it all the time, it's Bernie still, we want free, it's what he wants, free healthcare, but free childcare, free childcare. That's not even a good Bernie. Something's on my shoulder, it's not worth it. I can't do it, I actually can't do it.

48:03It's gone. But they always want free education for young people, right? And it's like, yeah, it's not because you want them to learn, you don't want them to learn a proper history of the United States, you don't want them to learn about capitalism or anything else. is you wanna start indoctrinating them young. And it's hard to believe that some of this woke crap is still going on, but it still is. Here are some videos of elementary school kids waving rainbow flags and celebrating Pride Month.

48:45Let me say something here. I don't have a problem with being gay. There was a gay guy sleeping in my bed last night, okay? So it's not about that. But what does this have to do with a public education? What does it have to do with these little kids who know nothing about gay or straight or anything else? Why do you need to teach them, whether it's Pride Month or anything else, that, okay, so some guy in a dress is gonna show up and you're gonna hold rainbow flags and wave them while this guy in a dress tells you a story. What, what, what? Like, it just, it's so bananas. How does this keep happening?

49:17Why, what is the obsession with making these kids think about gender and sexuality? Like, they'll get there in time, right? They'll be teenagers and have to think about some things. But why, I just don't understand. and yet it's across the board. So that was an elementary school, public elementary school. Look at the New York Times this weekend. It was Father's Day. So what did they put out? To my daughter, my gender was never complicated. And look at this quote. So you have a little kid walking with the father. How long did you have breasts for dad? You can't grow a beard. You're a girl. And then the other kid saying to the other kid, my dad did and he was a girl.

49:56Who?

50:00I need the painkillers. You know what? I'm reversing my thing. That's it. This whole week. No painkillers at night. Painkillers just for the show. You want me to snort some relief factor right now? It's just insane. Why? Okay. There's the edge case right there. There's the edge case of the person who transitioned and now married somebody and they've got kids. But it's Father's Day. How novel would it have been? Like they had a meeting at the New York Times to say, what are we gonna put up for our op-ed on Father's Day? They could have put up a story of, I don't know, a father raising his son. That would have been probably the most, you know, kind of boilerplate thing you could do for the most amount.

50:41But it's propaganda being pushed all the time, whether it's the schools, whether it's the New York Times, or whether it's that you've got a month for this nonsense. Again, and that has nothing to do with being anti-gay or anything else. On Actual Friends, my other podcast, last week, I could only join for a few minutes because of my shoulder, but here's Jillian and Dr. Drew and Sage. And Jillian, who happens, Jillian, she's a lesbian. What are we gonna do? She's a lesbian, she's a woman, she's married to a woman, not that there's anything wrong with it. And here she is pointing out that giving this thing a month is completely ludicrous.

51:18And Pride Months continues because it has been co-opted by places like Target to sell small children gender-affirming bathing suits so they can tuck their genitalia. It has turned into something that infuriates people, that forces this down their throat, and they truly resent it. And the reality is that when you give gay people a month and veterans a day, I think you have wildly lost sight of your values and your priorities. Yeah, and she's right, and it's obvious, and it's why there is a little bit, unfortunately, of a backlash against normal gay people, because Jillian doesn't want anything to do with this thing.

52:16I don't want anyone, I don't want anything to do with this thing. And you're right, like, and you know how you know that they pushed it on us, and it was all artificial, and it still continues. But do you remember for those two, three years at the height of woke, when Target literally was doing those things? You'd walk into Target in June, and they'd have these giant rainbow things everywhere. and for kids, it was always, you know, you walk in and it's the kids things right there. And they quite literally had underwear so that boys could tuck, like completely absurd stuff. And then woke started breaking and went down and then they just got rid of all of it.

52:45There's none of it there anymore. But if it was a good financial decision, it would still be there. That's the beauty of capitalism. Capitalism always wins. So at the end of the day, even if woke had kind of gone down, but they were like, you know, we still are actually selling a lot of these shirts. They would still have them there, but they don't have them there because it wasn't done for the purposes of capitalism or selling things, it was done for the purposes of propaganda. Now this is good, we're gonna jump back to one more with Bill because we are coming, we're just two weeks away now from America's 250th birthday and I'm telling you this inherent burst of patriotism we're gonna get in the country, it's gonna really help things because we have one party that for whatever their flaws are and whatever infighting there is, is pro-America and one party that simply is not.

53:33Here's Bill with a bit more on Democrats and patriotism. Every election year, Democrats seem to remember patriotism for about an hour at their convention when they're trying to win back swing voters. The whole message of Kamala's speech in 2024 was take back the flag. That's why she talked about America like a pageant contestant. The greatest privilege on earth, the privilege and pride of being an American. Hard to believe she lost, huh? Well, you can't take back the flag in an hour if the rest of the time you treat patriotism as something vaguely embarrassing. It shouldn't be, even though we are far from perfect.

54:21Bill continues that slow motion move to ultimately, it's not that he's going to be a conservative with a capital C, but he is now trying to conserve liberalism and knows that the Democrats are not doing it. Also, the line on Kamala, he's completely right. You guys, you can't be anti-American all the time. So at a convention, you have to put up some American flags. My guess is around July 4th, we'll see a few more quasi pro-America things coming out of all of the America hating progressives because you gotta fake it every now and again. But it doesn't even make sense to fake. In that hour where they fake it, it doesn't make sense because if your argument is America is racist and it's systemically this and it was founding was awful and all of those things, right?

55:04And the Gestapo is here and the Nazis. If your argument is any of that stuff, then you would never celebrate it, right? But they have, but he pointed out, they have to bring some of the swing voters back. I just don't think it's gonna work much longer. But to get back to their radicalness, we don't have to do much with Kamala these days, but she went on Don Lemon's podcast. And yes, they fundamentally want to rejigger the order that set up this great system like, I don't know, checks and balances. Does that sound like something that would be possible? And do you think that it should be expanded for however many?

55:41He says 13 because of 13 circuits. circuits? Well, I've been saying for quite some time, I think that we absolutely have to explore what we need to do because of the Supreme Court. I think that there is some real shaking up that we have to do of the rules and the structure. Is that get rid of the Electoral College? I think that should be a discussion that we should have. I don't think we should eliminate that. No, we should not. We have to explore what we need to do, another one of her standard statements. Lady, would you want to pack the Supreme Court if you had a court going in your direction?

56:25And of course the answer is no. Would you want to change the Electoral College if that was going in your direction? No, so you're telling us you only wanna do these things because they are to attain power. David Marcus, I've mentioned him a couple of times on the show. He's a journalist from Fox News. I've met him a couple of times. He put a tweet up that is, I think, indicative of something I've been saying for quite some time in sort of the split of where America's going. He wrote, we are heading towards 2030s in which it's likely that communists control our major cities, but owing to the census, conservatives will control the federal government.

57:00That's gonna be one hell of a dynamic. That's what I keep saying, that cities will be Democrat run. People that live there, you live on top of people. You need more control and regulation and laws and all of that. And cities are just gonna be these weird dystopian, hyper-controlled places where you're gonna be given stuff while they take stuff from all the people who are fleeing. And urban areas will become more Republican and in essence, more libertarian, right? Less government, et cetera. But his point there is that what we'll end up with because of the census is what we know is happening already.

57:36Florida just got four more seats because of redistricting, which they weren't planning to do until the Democrats started doing it. So that's now leading to a federal government. We'll see what happens. There's other things have to happen in the midterms, but you could see a situation where in the big cities, you will have massive Democrat control, New York, Los Angeles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Chicago, et cetera. And then the rest of the country will not be that. And then you start getting into some really weird stuff again about what makes us the United States of America. However, I don't want to end on that.

58:10I want to end with something positive. And there is so much positivity happening. And a lot of it is in the tech sector because we are changing the world very, very, here's a good example. I use Grok all the time now. Even for this shoulder problem that I've been having, I'm talking to, I got great doctors. I got second and third opinions, but I'm having an ongoing conversation with Grok and I'm uploading images of the x-rays and I'm telling them what the doctors said and all of these things. We didn't have that two years ago. You could Google things, right? But AI has now just kind of become part of what most, most of us are incorporating it into our lives one way or another.

58:46Well, AI is going to change everything and robotics will change everything. And I know we're old, people always look around the corner going, oh no, something horrible is gonna happen. But there's opportunity for incredible human flourishing on the other side of this. This is Nvidia CEO, Jensen Wang. We've shown you some videos of him before on what he thinks the AI future will look a bit like. You, if anyone, can envision what the next 5, 10, 15 years looks like. So what skills will be valuable to humans? The shape, the re-industrialization of the United States is going to change the shape of culture.

59:19We're going to have a lot more construction workers, a lot more builders and makers, which is fantastic. Well, that's interesting. We'll show you more in just a second. But more builders, more makers, more creators, a re-industrialization. Look, when we go through any change, printing press comes out, people start freaking out, television comes out, TV killed the radio star. Like things will always change. But if you're willing to incorporate these things into your life a little bit, then perhaps you can leverage that for a positive future. And that's the other reason that I think it's extremely important that America leads on this, right?

59:56And that Trump brought in AI and crypto as our David Sachs, for example. Like we need to have the best and the brightest innovators leading so that we don't fall behind China and other countries when it comes to AI energy and more. Here's a bit more from Wang on that. Why is it so important for the United States to win the so-called AI race? I don't know that winning AI is a thing because AI is going to last a long time and there's no end. You know, it's a competition with no end. It's like a marathon just runs forever. And so I don't know exactly what that means to win. However, we should absolutely lead.

1:00:31I think we should lead in every single aspect of it. We need to make sure that we lead in energy. Without energy, our country can't grow. Without energy, our economy can't grow. If the economy doesn't grow, national security is in peril. Domestic security is in peril. Everything's in peril. The country has to grow. We need to have energy to grow. I always say it's just nice listening to people who you can just tell. They are honestly telling you what they think. I also like that he said we have to lead in AI, not win, right? There is no win. The rest of the future of humanity is going to be connected to AI.

1:01:07It is going to be connected to robots and automation and all of these things. There is no win like, ah, we've won, you've lost. No, I like that example. It's a marathon that never ends. So we always want to be innovating better. We always want to understand this technology better. We always want to be leveraging it better. And that does not mean it will all always be good and we should worry about surveillance, state things and all the rest of it for sure. But wouldn't you rather we be having something to do with that as Americans than handing that off, I don't know, to the Chinese, the Russians, etc.

1:01:39Here's a guy you may have heard of him. He's the world's first trillionaire, Elon Musk. He's very excited about where things are going. I mean, we've got to be excited about the future. We've got to do things that make us want to live. You know, it cannot always be about problems every day. I mean, do you want to wake up every morning and everything's just a problem? What inspires you and what makes you excited about the future? There's got to be some things like that. Let's keep doing that, guys. I know I end the show sometimes on some of these corny things like that, but I think that that's right.

1:02:05And I think that's the messaging that is more positive. The Democrats simply cannot go with that messaging. Their messaging has to be doom and gloom. Even look where they are with AI. It's going to put all of you out of jobs, while at the same time they're like, and we should also have minimum wage be higher, which will, I guess, put more of you out of jobs earlier. or they're really worried about AI data centers and all these things. We just need a message that is more positive, that is going to say, hey, there's an interesting future on the horizon and we don't know exactly what's gonna happen, but let's see what we can do with it and it will be okay.

1:02:35And this is the same story that humans have gone through forever. You know, there wasn't a wheel. And then some guy was like, I created a wheel, look what I can do. And the guy who didn't have the wheel was probably pretty pissed at the wheel guy. You get the point. What was that? There was a game, a video game from the 80s, something about a guy with a wheel. Give me it, give me it. It was about a caveman with a wheel. Caveman wheel, 80s video game. Someone will remember this. Can I get an image of it maybe? It was called? BC's Quest. BC's Quest, yeah. Can you give me an image of BC's Quest to end the show today?

1:03:08I played this on the Apple IIc, I think, this thing. This is pre-Nintendo. Maybe it was on Atari. BC's Quest, and you were basically, you were just a caveman. If I remember correctly, you were a caveman with a wheelbarrow. Oh no, you were on, right, you were on the first wheel and you had to jump over things. And guess what? It worked out for that guy rather than the guy who was like, I don't like that circular thing. I'm not going anywhere. All right. Enjoy the rest of your Monday. We've got a post-game show coming up. 30 seconds, rubenreport.locals.com. Ciao.

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