Jimmy Kimmel's Audience Shocked at How Sick He Actually Is

26:29In fact, they offered less than a year earlier, 25 million bucks. They offered it. The only difference between her policy and Trump's policy is Trump actually did it and saved 25 million bucks. He should go call Kamala right now and He tried to get the money. He did it. He did. And so you think, all right, this has been broadly U.S. policy for 25 years now, really since Chavez got elected. And over that time, no one's been able to do it. Trump did it. But it's not like the Bush era neocons. It's not an abstract ideological war. Unlike the Bush era neocons, it's not on the other side of the world where we're much less familiar with the culture.

27:03This is grounded in over 200 years of American foreign policy in the Monroe, now Donroe Doctrine. It's very material in its aims. It's very restrained, as Bhatti points out, not shifting the regime exactly, just telling them to get in line. And the kind of irony of it all is Trump is really focusing on the oil and the material needs here. But there actually are some ideals and some geopolitical moves in play because, one, the guy was a communist dictator. We don't like that. But two, and this appeases the neocons more, by weakening Maduro, taking out Maduro, weakening the regime, you're also weakening China, the diplomats of which arrived the day before and are still waiting on their meeting with Maduro.

27:47You weaken Iran. You weaken Russia, which is already substantially weakened. So it's unbelievable about Trump's action. One, it was carried out flawlessly. It took an hour and a half. But two, he seems to have satisfied like everybody, including the Democrats. Just not CNN. Here's Pete Hexick. I want to emphasize that question from CNN. The question is never asked how much does it cost when they're in the Mediterranean or the Red Sea or the Indian Ocean or the Pacific. But now that they're in our hemisphere on a counter cartel mission or ensuring that an indicted individual comes to justice, now you're asking the question of cost.

28:23It's a disingenuous question to begin with. You're trying to find any angle possible to undermine the success of one of the most historic military missions the world has ever seen. The level of sophistication that Senate just was briefed on and the House was briefed on a classified level is something only the United States of America can accomplish. The world is taking notice of that. Certainly Venezuela is taking notice of that. And it continues because two oil tankers, two overnight, were seized by the United States of America, stateless or sanctioned because the oil blockade, the quarantine of oil out of unsanctioned or stateless, sanctioned or stateless vessels continues.

28:59That leverage will continue. But, yeah, the reason I want to show that clip, we don't have to go after CNN again, but it's just like it's just more competence from people that are in this administration. like it's just clear and it's competent. I don't know if you saw, but now the president of Columbia called up Trump and he's like, what can I do for you? Because a signal has been sent to the world. Stop sending drugs our way. Stop working with gangs. Like we might, I don't know, show up in the middle of the night and bring you here. And to me, it's just, again, it's just all good. It's sort of what Michael pointed out.

29:31It's not to say nothing bad could happen in any of the transition, but that basically we're reasserting ourselves again as the one world superpower. And I think that's good. Definitely. And, you know, like Michael said, you know, hardest hit, China and Russia and Iran. You know, it's like, who's howling? It's China, Russia, Iran and CNN. You know what I mean? Like, there's like a lesson there for anybody who's like watching really closely here. The Chinese are outraged. The Russians are completely in retreat. We seize their tanker and they're not going to do anything about it. And I think it's just amazing to see them firing on all cylinders.

30:09And at the bottom of everything is just benefit to the United States and our enemies absolutely howling. And it's you didn't even realize this. I did not realize that this was possible, that you could have an administration that just every cabinet member was answering to the president and his one goal was to make America more prosperous and safer. It's like a very, very unique time. And I kind of feel like we're never going to have this again. Like I remember when I went to vote for mayor in New York and I came out, I was like so depressed. And I was like, I mean, it wasn't just because like the candidates were such shit, you know, it was also because like it was the first time I was voting since 2024.

30:51And it's like even even then we couldn't have known like how much of what I didn't even realize I could have this on my wish list, you know, arrest Maduro. It's like and not lose a single troop. You know what I mean? And it'd be over before I even knew it was happening. Michael, real quick before I get to the next clip, what do you think about what she just said there? Like sort of the all-star cast of people around Trump right now, to me, it's like, I agree. This may be as good as it ever gets in government ever again. So when I see some of the people on the right going after the administration or some things, I'm like, guys, first off, he's only been president now.

31:30You know, it's barely a year that he's been president again the second time. But also, like, give it give it a chance. Like, do you not trust these people? Like how how what all star cast is better than this? Right. Like this is the night. This is the NBC 1984 sitcom lineup that we all wanted. It reminds you that success papers over a lot of problems. The right is always fighting. It's been true since the 50s. It's been true before the 50s. And all these people, because it's a second term, all these big figures in Republican politics might be aiming to be the next president or, I don't know, get some kind of position.

32:05So this is a moment when they should all be at each other's throats, but they're not. Trump has established very strong leadership and even down to the Rubio of it all. You know, Rubio, I think it was President Trump pointed out, said, you know, I kind of hope Rubio never runs for office again because I want him to be secretary of state basically forever. Rubio himself said that. Rubio, who's definitely a presidential contender, has come out multiple times now and said, no, I think J.D. Vance should be the president. Maybe Rubio would be VP. Maybe Rubio will just stick on as Secretary of State.

32:37That'd be pretty amazing, too. Hegseth is working so well with all of them. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs, obviously extreme competence. It's just all working together. Bobby Kennedy told us we can eat steak this week. I mean, it's just not going to get better than this. It's unbelievable. Bobby Kennedy just got rid of 80 percent of the food pyramid. He eats steak and milk and you're good forever. But, you know, actually, the Bobby Kennedy bit all is important, too. This guy is not only a Democrat, a Democrat presidential candidate, not only a Democrat presidential candidate, but a freaking Kennedy.

33:07You know, one of the most important Democrat families in the country. He's working marvelously well in the administration. And it reminds you that politics in government involve two things. One is ideology. Sure. Thoughts, views, ideas, policies. Yeah, that's all important. But the other one is competence. You need to get smart, skilled, competent people if you want any of that policy to come to anything. And at the very least in the second term, Trump has clearly done it. I have to say, I'm not a big fan of Bobby Kennedy. I think he's just like an elite, entitled Nepo baby. I hate everything that he does, but I love Dr.

33:44Oz and I especially love that this week he told us we can drink as much as we want. Some like the milk and some like the booze. So you got Kennedy and you got Oz. Okay. As a guy with the great tequila on the market, I'm not going to argue with Dr. Oz, but I'm going to have to punt the RFK stuff for another time, Batya. We should discuss that further. But I want to show you this. I think it's our last CNN clip of the day, I promise you. But watch how they're trying to, like, shift the narrative here because the drugs that they were sending over, it wasn't fentanyl. It was mostly cocaine. So everybody calm down.

34:13The Venezuelan government facilitated the transport of up to 250 tons of cocaine annually. Clearly, experts believe that most of that cocaine, though, is bound for Europe, not the United States. And also, for context, that total falls far, far short of what we see in many other countries. For instance, according to U.S. data, Guatemala, a much smaller nation, saw 1 ,400-plus metric tons pass through 2018 alone, which we know did wind up flowing into the United States. Cocaine is obviously dangerous and lethal. It is not, though, the drug causing most overdose deaths in the United States. That dubious distinction belongs, of course, to fentanyl.

34:58Knowles, I'm not sure if that man realized what he just did, but I'm pretty sure he just told Trump to invade Guatemala. Yeah, and a number of other countries, frankly, too. This is the way you know the Democrats had absolutely nothing to criticize about. Because now they're defending a communist dictator and cocaine. And I loved actually the vice president had a great reaction to this because he said, look, guys, you know, this invasion was predicated on a five year standing arrest warrant for Maduro, who is not the legitimate president of Venezuela. Over 50 countries don't recognize him as the legitimate president.

35:35He stole the election. It's predicated on Venezuela stealing our stuff and, you know, cozying up to our enemies and this, that and the other thing. He goes, also, cocaine is also bad. Like, we don't need to defend cocaine. OK, that's bad, too. There was a really funny New York Times or Washington Post article that seemed to suggest that the reason Trump ultimately arrested Maduro was because he was dancing and making fun of Donald Trump. And they thought that made Trump look bad. Like, like, yeah, that's right. hey, there's a five-year arrest warrant out for you. Don't stand there and make fun of me and dance because, you know, I'm just looking for an excuse.

36:13It is so funny to me. And also the whole thing about the cocaine, fentanyl comes from China. Guess what they need in order to get it here? Oil. Guess what they just have 10 % less of now? Oil. You know, the other thing the Democrats were saying this week was, oh, this is going to give China permission to invade Taiwan. Yeah, because China was sitting there waiting for our permission, right? They were like, we can't invade Taiwan because Trump didn't arrest Maduro. But now that he has, we can invade Taiwan. It's so ridiculous. And again, by the way, 10 % less oil in order to do that. Yeah, you're making a great point, by the way, on the China-Taiwan thing.

36:49I've heard a lot of people saying this, like, oh, we just gave them permission to do whatever they want because we can do whatever we want. And it's like, oh, yes, that's what they were waiting for. Like, we were just going to, you guys are good to go now. Take Taiwan and all the chips and everything. You know, the other irony of that, too, though, to reconcile both the idea of retrenchment in the Western Hemisphere, which now some people are saying, well, that means we're abandoning the rest of the world and we're letting our enemies run roughshod. Forget about even the, you know, we've given the moral permission, the Chinese communist.

37:16Right. Even just in terms of hardcore geopolitics, is it easier or harder for China to invade Taiwan when you just cut off a bunch of their oil? It doesn't take an international relations genius to know. It makes it harder for them. Is it easier or harder for Iran to wreak havoc in the region and around the world when we just cut off a nice ally of theirs? Is it easier or harder for Russia to win its war in Ukraine, which is a proxy war with us in Europe, when we boot out one of their partners? You know, these things, these kinds of actions have cascading downstream geopolitical effects that ironically end up accomplishing the goals of even the most interventionist neocons, frankly, probably better than their own policies do.

38:02Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly. Thank you for saying that. I said I was going to talk to you next time about some RFK stuff. However, we're going to talk about the vaccine schedule. So we'll see what we can get into. But first, Rumble Premium. Guys, if you want the best experience on Rumble, you need a Rumble Premium. It's ad-free, distraction-free, and built entirely around creators who actually stand for something. You'll get exclusive access to a whole lineup of voices that aren't afraid to think differently. Rumble Premium is how you support a platform that's genuinely built on free speech, not just talking about it.

38:33Go to rumble.com slash premium slash Rubin. That's rumble.com slash premium slash Rubin for 10 % off annually for Rumble Premium. Join the movement today. All right, here's Donald Trump on truth. This is a condensed version. Today, the Trump administration is proud to announce the United States of America's updated childhood vaccine vaccination schedule. The schedule is rooted in the gold standard of science and widely agreed upon by scientists and experts all over the world. Effective today, America will no longer require 72 jabs for our beautiful, healthy children. We are moving to a far more reasonable schedule where all children will only be recommended to receive vaccinations for 11 of the most serious and dangerous diseases.

39:16Parents can still choose to give their children all of the vaccinations if they wish, and they will still be covered by insurance. However, this updated schedule finally aligns itself with the United, finally aligns the United States with other developed nations around the world. Congratulations to HHS Secretary Bobby Kennedy, CDC Acting Director Jim O 'Neill, FDA Commissioner Marty McCary, CMS Administrator Dr. Oz, NIH Dr. Jay Batari, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So, Batya, I mean, this just seems good to me. We'll get into some of the autism stuff in just a second, but we know that our schedule has been rapidly escalated for the last 30, 40 years, way more than in Europe.

39:54We've seen at least some corollary evidence that this is connected to some behavioral things and other issues. But you don't seem to like Bobby. I'm shocked. Help me here. I don't have a problem with the administration doing this. This is obviously patronage, right? So Bobby brought in the Maha Moms. They were probably decisive in Arizona and other places where they tend to congregate. And, you know, they like this. And so this is a kind of very sort of give it. It's classic patronage. And that's totally fine, like democratically, politically, whatever. My problem is, is that Americans are unhealthy because they are fat and they are fat because they are poor.

40:32And Bobby Kennedy doesn't know this because he doesn't know any poor people. He's extremely privileged, nepo baby, entitled rich person who has the problems of that demographic, which are all these like, you know, like for example, I'm sure he's done keto or whatever. Like this is what a rich person would tell a poor person who is struggling to be healthier. It's like, oh, just to eat more steak, you know, like great, you know, what's next? Like eat more caviar. Like, why don't you recommend more truffle mushrooms? Right. It's just so out of touch with the actual problems, which is food deserts and people working three jobs.

41:08And the fact that today fast food is cheaper than cooking at home. That's horrible. And now I think the president is doing everything he can to fix that. He's been great on health care. He got down the cost of drugs. This is really important to seniors. But to me, the Kennedy stuff is just so offensive because it suggests that the things that rich people obsess over when they obsess over their health are at the root of the problem. And the problem is actually, I think, much more systemic and deeper and out of reach for someone like a Kennedy. Sure, but I don't know that you can blame him just because he grew up as a Kennedy.

41:43I mean, he still cares about getting poisons out of cereals, which a lot of poorer people are eating and the rest of it. But, Nolfe, go ahead. No, listen, I'm all for blaming people for growing up as Kennedys. I like Bobby Kennedy, but I don't have any special affection for the Kennedy family. However, part of your thesis, Baccia, I think is difficult to argue because even with wealth inequality or economic problems that we have today, affordability or any of the slogans or any of the real economic problems, Americans today, including poor Americans, are still objectively, materially much richer than they were 50 years ago or 100 years ago by virtually every measure.

42:21And people are fatter today than they were then. So I grant you it's true. It's more expensive to eat in a healthy way, usually, depending on where you live. But also a big a big part of that is we do have a bunch of unhealthy stuff and addictive kind of stuff in our foods and which probably requires a little bit more regulation, which is the exact kind of thing Bobby Kennedy campaigned on and that he's actually brought to the fore. So not only on the vaccine point, which I think he's quite salient on, but also when it comes to Dave's point, getting the dyes out of foods, you know, minimizing sugars and trying to discourage that kind of stuff.

42:55I don't know. To me, it seems like he's bringing a political solution to pretty much the problem you're describing. Also, you know, everyone says that somehow poor people don't have access to good food. And obviously there's edge cases where you could be in hyper poverty or homeless or drug addicted and you can't figure out what to do. But, you know, a pound of beef, which is, let's say,$6.99,$5.99 now, you know, not organic, regenerative, but like just a pound of beef. You get ground beef. You can get broccoli. You can get eggs. And for$20, you could, for a full day's meal, and I get it, not everyone has that, but for$20, you could eat pretty damn healthy every day.

43:32I think it's a lot of it has to do with, first of all, the frame of mind. I mean, I'm sure the three of us who are extremely privileged, right, we're not kind of single parents working two jobs trying to make it work. We probably have nights where we're just too tired to cook. Right. And so what do we do? We order in something probably pretty healthy, you know, like sushi. Right. Like that. I have to stop you right there. I never eat anything healthy. I know I order in, but I never eat anything healthy. And there are parasites in sushi. My husband forces me to eat it. It's disgusting. It's disgusting.

44:05But anyway, you know, the average like working class person, like just picture their life. This is a person who's working maybe one very physically demanding job, maybe two. A lot of people are raising kids by themselves. They are exhausted. They just don't have that space. You have to go to the supermarket to get fresh vegetables. There's a lot of like time and planning involved. And also, Michael, you're right. A lot of stuff has gotten cheaper. You know, we can all get a new flat screen TV or whatever every year. But the hallmarks of the American dream, housing, health care and education and a retirement have skyrocketed by thousands of percents in the last 60 years while working class wages have stagnated.

44:47And so, yeah, they can afford things. But a lot of people are driving, you know, broken down cars for hours just to get to work. Like these aren't people who's like and I feel like there's just a radical disconnect between like the way that the people who set policy are living and thinking and the way that a lot of. And by the way, these are Republicans now. I'm just going to make this point because I have to make this point whenever I have a captive Republican audience. You know, it used to be that Republicans were the party of the rich and the Democrats represented labor. So it made sense for the Republicans to try to get tax cuts for rich people, patronage.

45:24But now the Republicans are the party of the working class and the Democrats are the party of the rich. Every tax break you guys give to a rich person, you're giving to a rich Democrat who's going to use that money because they don't need it because they're rich to fund a Democratic politician like Mom Donnie to screw you guys over and screw over your voters. And you're taking that money from people who are probably Republicans. Like, I feel like there's this muscle memory. And this is the thing that I want Republicans to most understand, because if you don't get this, you're going to lose. And then they're going to put Donald Trump in jail.

45:59And I'm going to be very upset. No, but somehow. Wait, wait, wait. Somehow this was a segment on vaccinations. However, Knowles, I do want you to respond to that. So I agree with a fair bit of what you said, but you're not. Listen, I haven't sold enough Mayflower cigars yet to be a super rich person. But, you know, I'm aspiring. I'm doing my best. So I'm like, it's one of those tax cuts, too. But one of the issues is, yeah, the cost of a lot of these things has gone up, including housing. Now, one of the drivers of housing costs going up is that the houses are just way bigger and nicer than our grandparents' houses.

46:30But the other big driver is mass migration, which is why ever since we've gotten the Trump deportations, rents have gone down. And by the way, Trump did a big thing this week. He made it illegal for investment banks to buy single family homes. This is incredible, incredible news. So you get it on the deportations, you get it on the rentals going down, you get it on the large institutional investors not buying single family homes. You're seeing a lot of focus on that in other areas of the administration. In terms of the tax breaks, yes, Trump doubled down on the tax cuts generally, which I think was good because the economy would have really suffered otherwise.

47:04But he also added new tax breaks for people who work in service. You know, no tax on tips and no tax on Social Security, whatever people are working on fixed incomes. However, I guess my only question is, why is that Bobby Kennedy's fault? You know, the things we're focusing on here, Mike, you just don't like Bobby Kennedy. It's guilty. Guilty. Guilty. The segment started about vaccinations. We somehow got it there. I saw what you did there. But you know what? Actually, just to bring this back. Well, you know, let's do this. How about I have you guys on again, the two of you again, in six months from now, once we have six months of the big, beautiful bill results, where a lot of these tax cuts and some of the other things Trump has done.

47:41And we'll see if some of the things that Batya brought up are addressed. I think that might be an interesting thing to do. And we can throw back to this video. But just quickly on the vaccinations again, I want to show you this because, you know, Jenny McCarthy, who's of our young, young, my producers had no idea who she was, but she was cool back in the day on MTV. But she's become a real anti-vaccine advocate because of one of her children. She went on Katie Miller's podcast and listened to this. I haven't talked about this, but my oldest child is fully vaccinated. My youngest child is not vaccinated at all.

48:11My oldest child had milk, so I had protein allergy, right? And we had struggles breastfeeding. My third child was fully breastfed until age one. He is my healthiest child who never, ever gets sick. He's never been on antibiotics. He is like every day could put food in, like dirt in his mouth and he will not get ill. Honestly, this is what I've heard. And I did talks over the country over the past 15 years talking to moms face-to-face who had a vaccine-injured child or just woke up and did not do that. And they said, my child that is not vaccinated hasn't been to the doctor in like eight years, doesn't get sick, the strongest immune system, doesn't have allergies.

48:53Right. It's unbelievable. So the reason I want to show you that clip is the three of us are all parents of young kids. I'm not going to ask you a vaccine status of all of your children, But I also hear a lot of what she just described right there when we talk to parents at the playground or wherever it might be. I'm curious what your take on that is, Vaya. I don't have kids, so I probably shouldn't opine on this. But I think I just described you some kids. You all want to. Yeah. I got it. I got extras. But I just there's a lot of stuff that anecdotally feels true and isn't true. and I just think that this is the kind of thing that hurts.

49:34I mean, kids are dying of whooping cough. Kids are dying of measles. These are diseases we licked and I just, you know, like there's a lot of stuff that feels truthy because, you know, she has a sample size of three. Like everybody knows the third kid is the one who eats dirt, right? The first one is the one you overprotect and by the third one, you're like, ah, it'll be fine, right? So I just feel, I worry that the downstreaming of this, This happens a lot where elites come up with some cockamamie idea. And by the time it gets downstream to people over TikTok, children are dying. So, Knowles, to whatever extent what she said there is right.

50:10I mean, do we just blame this on Fauci and everybody else? Like you guys lied to us about so much shit that someone listening to Jenny McCarthy give an anecdotal story sounds better. Well, that's a great point. When the preeminent public health officials lie to you and get caught in multiple lies in a short period of time, then it's actually reasonable to at least entertain some of the alternative theories. I have three boys and we started out, we got like one or two of the vaccines for one. Then we said, I don't know, we're a little, you know, COVID, Fauci's lying. Maybe we won't do as much. And we kind of didn't.

50:44I think the second one, I don't know if we gave any two, maybe one or two. and then the third. Now, all of that, I say all of that because it means I don't have a strong ideological position or scientific opinion on vaccines. I have much more of a practical, prudential opinion. The vaccine schedule, as it was as of two weeks ago, was so much more abundant and faster than it was when we were kids. So there has been a massive change. And clearly, there is some correlation with health consequences here, because there's always a risk to any medical intervention. So, you know, what the Trump administration has done here is not to say you can't have these vaccines or to totally wipe them off the schedule.

51:21Bhatia, I know you don't like Bobby Kennedy, but the number two at HHS, Jim O 'Neill, acting head of the CDC, who coincidentally is a friend of mine of a very, very long time, very intelligent person, very serious person, totally supportive of what the department's doing, helping to roll out a lot of this. He was on my show the other day. He comes out and he says, look, we're just trying to give parents a little more transparency here and a little more choice. So they're not told that their kid's not even allowed to join a medical office if they don't stick them with 72 shots right at once. And I'll just give you the anecdotal practical summation for me.

51:52Some of my kids have some vaccines, some have none or barely any or this or that. They all get sick all the time. They're all super sick right now. My house is like a hospital. You know, it's that time of year. I don't know. But also speaking of the HHS, it is worth pointing out anecdotally, you hear one thing, But in terms of actual influenza cases, whooping cough, whatever, these numbers are not really different than all that different than they have been in years past. I think some of it is just the media ginning it up to make the vaccines more of an issue. So, Baya, I got it wrong that you have children.

52:24However, I will get this right. You live in New York, and we're going to have to talk about New York because you people elected an Islamist, socialist, communist, jihadist who's one of his housing people is this lady. Enjoy. I think the reality is that for centuries, we've really treated property as an individualized good and not a collective good. and transitioning to treating it as a collective good and towards a model of shared equity will require that we think about it differently. And it will mean that families, especially white families, but some POC families who are homeowners as well, are going to have a different relationship to property than the one that we currently have.

53:15So that lady is Momdami's tenant advocate. Now, Baya, you are in New York. I don't know if you knew this, but the bookshelf behind you is now a public library. Congratulations. Congratulations.

53:28This is how everybody in that cast speaks. You know, like it's impossible to get, you know, a liberal arts education and not think that way and talk that way pretty much. And I love how she allowed that like in, you know, that there are some POC Kulaks, too, who are going to have to go, you know, like I have to face the firing line. Like, you know, rare moment of honesty from one of these people. It's just ridiculous. You know, it's just it's just ridiculous. And I but not surprising, like you said, you know, it's like shocking, but not surprising. Like they all think this way. But I am very heartened to see a big pushback against this.

54:08Like, I think for a long time, you were not allowed to say the fundamental truth that anti-white racism is racism. And there is this feeling now, like, you know, in 2020, there would have been no pushback to that because everybody was saying that, which is probably when she was saying it the most. And now there is this understanding. I think there's been a real shift in the culture. Like, actually, no, it's not OK to say disgusting things about white people. You know, like, actually, no, you're not allowed to just act like they are the enemy and you're not allowed to take their property. And I think that this is a very actually healthy moment because these people who were like running the show are now being kind of chased down the street and made to cry.

54:48Well, Knowles, I know there's nothing that you people at The Daily Wire like more than liberal tears. So this one's going to bring a smile to your face. From the New York Post, Zorhan Mamdami's woke, privileged tenant advocate, Sea Weaver, that's the lady we just showed you, breaks down crying when asked about hypocritical gentrification comments because it turns out that her parents live in a$1.4 million home. This is what liberal tears are all about. You people have sold a lot of freaking mugs. This is what liberalism is all about. I've said this for years, and I love to say I told you so. All of liberalism boils down to screw you, dad.

55:24And the fact that this girl, this girl, she's like 37 years old. This woman who's in political office is now being asked by members of the media. I thought we liked transparency. I thought we liked accountability. Just being asked about this irony here that her parents are the exact kind of people that she is arguing viciously to dispossess. She's asked and she starts to cry. Yeah, it's all about it, man. These are really emotionally and intellectually unregulated people. They have very serious problems. And the euphemisms somehow make it even more annoying. Like that line you heard her say, she goes, we're going to change your relationship with property.

56:04just like i'm gonna like you're hey what's your relationship with that shirt it's mine now give me that i do have to make a little point um um it's not fair because he's not here but ben shapiro is always saying if people can't make it where they live they should move this is they did that okay this is what happens this girl comes from tennessee okay she was like a wealthy over educated elite in tennessee couldn't make it there and moved here like that is everybody who Like Ben's theory of the case, they did that. They moved to cities and they vote for Mamdani. It's not a good prescription. Yeah.

56:40You know, having done it myself, actually with Ben, that we went to we went to different places because I went to Nashville where this lady's from. And he went to the promised land. But I but so, look, I did it and I abandoned Dave and it was it's a whole thing. However, I think basically Ben is right. Like he's 10 percent right in that like we all do it. And sometimes you need a tactical retreat. But 90 percent of what I want to see is, no, you got to dig into your community and keep the Mom Donnie's out, man. If people didn't move so much, we wouldn't have Mom Donnie. He'd still be in Uganda.

57:14Yeah, because, of course, the data shows that he lost with native New Yorkers. And the less time you lived in New York, the more likely you were to vote for Mom Donnie, Ben Shapiro. but yeah i won't bludgeon my audience with the whole story because they've heard it every time knows comes on but the night before the daily wire announced that they were leaving to move to tennessee knows and his wife were at our house we have a great dinner and him and i are like we're gonna fight for cali we're never leaving we're gonna take out newsom blah blah blah and then he leaves and i wake up the next morning daily wire leaves knowles out of here like and i'll The next morning I walk in, DW says, hey, we think we're going to move.

57:55What do you think about that? And then there was just a Michael-shaped hole in the way. Boom, see ya. Here we go, Tennessee. I want to finish up with one other thing with you guys because we're all, we are creatures of the internet. We're creatures of the online space. And part of what has happened is we all must criticize and critique each other all the time. All the time. And Megyn Kelly, who seems to be, I would say, wavering from the steady Megyn Kelly that we once all knew. She joined Tucker this week and they talked a bit about Candace. I'm ready to barf. Where's my barf bucket? Play. And then came Candace Owens.

58:37And that she really drives people crazy. She drives them crazy. They were very angry. I didn't call her out for what she said about Israel possibly being involved with Charlie Kirk. Well, I didn't call her out because I was totally fine with those questions being raised and still am. Like, I'm sorry, but I am. I'm sick of this bull. I am allowed to have questions about what if anyone aligned with Israel or from Israel might have had to do with Charlie's death. Well, first off, Knowles, I'll go to you first on this. I mean, not only is there no evidence of it, I don't think most people were criticizing her about Candace's positions on Israel.

59:11I think most people were criticizing her for going after Erica Kirk and Turning Point USA. So you're welcome to comment on that. And then I'd love to just hear your thoughts on just sort of the general state of some of what's going on on the right ecosystem right now. Yeah, I'll take I'll take in reverse order because I gave a speech about this at Turning Point, actually. And I was slotted in between Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson, which is kind of like being in between India and Pakistan. You know, it's really in the position. You make a good point. So I find the fighting on the right to be interesting in that it's not really about actual policies most of the time.

59:51It's certainly not about candidates. Basically, everyone supports Trump. Basically, everyone thinks J.D. is going to be the nominee next time. And so weirdly, we all kind of agree on that. It's all within the chattering class. And I think there can be perfectly principled moral reasons for that. But there's an incentive to it also, which is that for politicians, they have to get policies done and win elections. For the chattering class, we get clicks and views, and it's good for clicks and views, and that's kind of how the internet works. So I've made a very conscious effort to avoid doing that.

1:00:18And the same thing, you know, specifically when it comes to Candace, I am the godfather to Candace Owens' daughter. I am probably the last person on the Internet who is not invade against or white knighted for everything that Candace has ever said. I just for my political views and because of my sacramental role, I try not to do that. But can't one simply say, yeah, look, I think Erica Kirk is a wonderful woman. I think she's done a great job running TPSA. I think they're all heroic people. I don't really entertain lots of conspiracy theories. Some people entertain conspiracy theories because we got lied to by public officials like five years ago.

1:00:52So I kind of get it. But can't we just say, hey, guys, chattering class, enough. Knock it off. Keep your mouth shut. Let's keep our eyes on the prize and win the midterms and win 28. Am I the last man in America who wants to do that? No. Yeah. Because you're on this show, and that's what I've been trying to do every day. I try to stay above the fight. I sometimes fail at that for sure. And to your point, like, you know, we end up becoming friends with these people or your godfather to her with Candace's son. It's like it becomes very, very complex. Batya, you're new in this strange pond of lunacy.

1:01:23What do you make of all of this? I know. I feel a little bit like the Lorax. Like I speak for the swing voters who really love the MAGA movement and got you guys in power. Like I wouldn't be so sure J.D. Vance is a done deal, nor should you want him as a candidate. I don't think he's electable. So I, you know, from what I can see right now, talking to working class people who love Trump all the time, I just don't feel that he is he can win a general election. So, you know, when you say we're all on the same page about that, I'm not. But I may not be in the club. You know, people are like, yeah, she joined the movement five minutes ago.

1:01:55Who cares? You're new. You're new to the team. Exactly. And if that's a totally fair thing to say. No one still isn't sure about me. So what are you going to do? It's been like a decade with Dave now. On the Megyn Kelly front, I love Megyn Kelly. She's been very, very good to me. And I just very much disagree with where she's landed on this issue. And I think a lot of us feel a little bit gaslit. Just it's obviously not about Israel. You know, even the problems with Tucker, like I started with when he had the first Holocaust denier on and then the second Holocaust denier. So it's just not about Israel at all.

1:02:30And when people try to pretend that it is, like that does not feel good. But I think Megyn Kelly was a very good friend to the Jews at a time when we really needed one. And I'm just never going to forget that she did that and everything she's done for me personally. So it's, you know, hopefully everybody will move past this. I think that this is all just online drama. I just think there's a huge divide between conservatives and content creators. And you see this again and again and again. You know, the content creators were against the Venezuela thing. 99 % of Republicans loved it. The content creators were against the Iran thing.

1:03:0287 % of Republicans loved it. You know, the content creators are turning on Israel. You know, 90 % of Republicans, 85 % of Republicans still support Israel. So it's just to me, it's just so divorced. And you're seeing on the right the exact thing that destroyed the left. A bunch of very loud people who are in the elites, in this case, who make a lot of money off of content, are getting money because the Internet is global and they've totally lost sight of who the American working class is, who is the Republican base now. It's just a very different party now. And I would really urge people who want to see Republicans win to take that into consideration and to remember that and to keep their, you know, one foot in the ground, in that ground, because the majority of this engagement is not American.

1:03:51It's global. And you can see that from the tenor it's taking. It's just so alien to how Americans sound. Even the people who listen to Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson are by and large pro-Israel. Like, it goes in one ear and out the other. They're listening to it for entertainment or for legacy, I think, in Tucker's case. They're not convinced by anything they hear and they don't agree with it. They think it's a good show and a good time. And the algorithmic tricks and just a generation that's grown up on trolling. It's very hard to figure out where the touch points are between the digital world and the real world.

1:04:28Batya, I would like to say you can come back. Knowles, it's been nice knowing you. He is on shaky ground. That's fair. I had a good run. It was fun. Guys, have a great weekend. It's Friday, so no postgame show. We'll see everybody on Monday. Thanks for watching. God bless.

1:04:47Thank you.