In short
Dave Rubin reacts to backlash over Jimmy Kimmel’s “expectant widow” joke about Melania Trump, arguing it was a bad, politically divisive line made amid heightened assassination rhetoric. He also discusses broader claims about left-wing radicalization, conspiracy beliefs among Democrats, and alleged normalization of violence in media. He adds examples of threats against journalist Nick Shirley after he investigated Minnesota fraud, and he comments on security and political events after a Trump shooting attempt.
Guests (named in transcript)
No direct guests appear in this excerpt. Named figures discussed include: Governor Ron DeSantis, comedian Colin “Corolla” (Corolla), Ben Shapiro, and Jillian Michaels (announced for a future live event). Also referenced: Bill O’Reilly, Brian Stelter, Jake Tapper, Caroline Levitt, Dan Bongino, Mark Kelly, John Fetterman, Dan Goldman, Lenny (Charlemagne the God), Hassan Piker, Wajahat Ali, Tim Walz, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and Brooke Taylor.
Key claims
Kimmel’s joke was misinterpreted as age-based but framed as implying Melania’s husband will die; Rubin argues firing Kimmel is a corporate/market decision, not government. He claims ~46% of Democrats believe the 2024 Trump assassination attempt was orchestrated by Trump supporters, and that some left media excuses violence.
Notable examples
Kimmel’s “expectant widow” line; clips accusing Kimmel and others of partisan hate; survey results from Manhattan Institute; death threats and FBI/DOJ raids tied to Nick Shirley’s Minnesota fraud investigations; Tim Walz’s “fraud gets caught” tweet amid raids.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOKimmel's Controversial Jokes
2:26 to 4:28
Discussion about Jimmy Kimmel's jokes and their implications after an assassination attempt.
“So it'll be one of these with all the clips and all the craziness and giveaways and everything else.”
Analysis of Kimmel's Defense
4:28 to 6:34
Rubin analyzes Kimmel's defense of his jokes and the reaction they garnered.
“We showed you a couple of them yesterday.”
Kimmel's Legacy and Late Night Comedy
6:34 to 10:28
Rubin discusses the changes in late night comedy and Kimmel's role in it.
“where we once had the king of late night, Johnny Carson, who it was a little bit of poking at everybody, but it wasn't really political.”
Free Speech and Market Response
10:28 to 14:00
Rubin explores the concepts of free speech and market dynamics in response to Kimmel's actions.
“And this is not a 50-50 equation where it's like, okay, this side does it and this side does it, but it basically turns out to be a wash.”
Critique of Jimmy Kimmel's Actions
14:00 to 22:26
Discussion on Kimmel's controversial comments and their implications.
“Dave Rubin cannot be on your platform anymore?”
Rhetoric and Radicalization on the Left
23:25 to 28:00
Exploration of the radicalization within the left and its consequences.
“Okay, so let's connect the general state of insanity.”
Political Rhetoric and Calls for Violence
28:00 to 30:19
Explore the disturbing trend of political figures wishing death upon opponents.
“and I'll mock you, and I'll make fun of you, and I'll call you out, and I'll expose you.”
Gun Control and Security Debate
30:20 to 33:08
Discuss the implications of gun control and security in political events.
“But let's show you a little bit how they play both sides on this stuff.”
The Need for a More Secure Venue
33:09 to 36:46
Contemplate the necessity of secure venues for political events in the current climate.
“They should be out there with the people.”
Exposing Fraud in Minnesota
36:47 to 41:51
Learn about the fraud uncovered in Minnesota's care facilities and its implications.
“So this is my buddy Jimmy Fallon over on Fox.”
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Nick Shirley's Exposé on Fraud
42:00 to 45:00
Learn about Nick Shirley's investigation into fraud in Minnesota's daycare and hospice sectors.
“All right, so let's talk about some of the other threats that are happening right now.”
Death Threats and Political Climate
45:00 to 48:20
Explore the real dangers faced by those exposing fraud in today's political landscape.
“Charlie Kirk and ironically Donald Trump, the equivalents of us on the left, I don't think they're dealing with these kind of threats.”
Impact of Somali Community on Minnesota
48:20 to 51:40
Discuss the Somali community's role in Minnesota and the welfare reliance statistics.
“We're not even five months into this thing, end it right now.”
Ilhan Omar's Controversial Remarks
51:40 to 55:40
Analyze Ilhan Omar's statements and their implications on political discussions.
“So first, here's Ilhan mocking Americans who voted for Trump, and then the most viral video clip of the last two days, which was just extraordinary.”
Comparing Political Parties' Responses
55:40 to 56:00
Evaluate the different approaches of Republicans and Democrats regarding government spending and accountability.
“So let's go back to Tim Walls, a man who now is, as a moment ago, was just taking credit for the FBI going into Minnesota.”
The Impact of Fear on Communities
56:00 to 57:24
Explore the consequences of fear and separation within communities and the implications of illegal immigration.
“Children were separated from their parents, neighbors from neighbors.”
Political Deception and Accountability
57:24 to 59:32
Discussion on political deception regarding funding and immigration reform, highlighting accountability.
“Here is Ro Khanna again, a guy who just every day this guy gets worse.”
Racism and Meritocracy in Hiring
59:32 to 1:02:08
Debate on hiring practices based on race vs. merit, and the implications for society.
“you are doing something that inherently, this was the great trick they pulled at us on DEI.”
Threats Against Political Figures
1:02:08 to 1:04:04
Examine the recent indictment of former FBI Director Comey and the implications of threats against the president.
“He knowingly and willfully making a threat to take the life of and to inflict bodily harm upon the president of the United States.”
Iran Conflict and Economic Leverage
1:04:04 to 1:07:33
Discussion on the current state of Iran and the U.S. strategy surrounding the conflict.
“this Hassan guy will basically say, I understand why people killed Brian Thompson, the healthcare CEO.”
Transcript
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1:36All right, guys, I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. It's April 29th, 2026. Like, comment, subscribe, all that stuff. We have, this is a dense, jam-packed, prime professional program for you today. A lot of paper, a lot of Sharpies, a lot to get to. But before we do anything else, I actually have a major, major announcement, particularly for those of you here in the free state of Florida, but really for everybody, we're announcing this right now. Tickets just went up, I believe two minutes ago. Put the image up. This is a pretty damn impressive night happening in Florida. The Florida Man, Ruben Report Live at the Fillmore, which is a spectacular theater here in Miami Beach, June 11th, I will be doing a live Rubin Report show.
2:25We're gonna write it that very day. So it'll be one of these with all the clips and all the craziness and giveaways and everything else. But you can see some primo guests that we've got right there. Obviously the headliner will be Governor Ron DeSantis. I'll be doing a one-on-one interview with him at the end of the show. Corolla is gonna be doing some standup up top. We're gonna do a little panel with you might've heard of these people, Benjamin Shapiro from the Daily Wire, and my good friend Jillian Michaels from our Actual Friends podcast. I mean, that's an all-star freaking lineup at a great theater right here in Miami.
3:00I am told there's a rumor there will be free tequila. We've got giveaways. There is going to be a meet and greet and all of that good stuff. It is going to be a great night. Tickets just went on sale. I have no doubt it's going to sell out. So you can go to DaveRubin.com slash events. I'd love to give some of you guys, what do we do? It's the two second hug. You can't hug me during the meet and greet. You can get a two second hug. And if you're with someone else and they wanna give away one second of their hug, yeah, we can do a three second situation. But a lot of people hold me and then they don't let go.
3:35And we've got to get to a lot. I'm telling you guys, this thing's gonna sell out. It's gonna be a great, great night. I'm super psyched to do this. Fillmore is a spectacular theater. And to have DeSantis, you know, as he's wrapping up his second term here in Florida, It's gonna be a celebration of all of those good things. And Corolla's hilarious. And what do I have to tell you about Ben and Jillian? It's just gonna be a great night. Again, it's daverubin.com slash events. Buy today, tequila, chickens, pigs, a lot of stuff. It's all gonna be there. And let's dive in, guys, because I'm telling you, this is, it's everything in today's show.
4:10It is quite literally a little bit of everything. So of course the major sort of cultural mini war that we are in right now is related to the backdrop of the third assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life, which happened over the weekend at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. But really subsequently what has blown up since that is that Jimmy Kimmel, a couple of days before, a guy who makes about 20 million bucks a year on ABC to insult and demean half the country, he did a fake White House Correspondents Dinner with some pretty terrible jokes. We showed you a couple of them yesterday. But here's, so subsequently after the assassination attempt, suddenly people were like, wait a minute, maybe this is a bit much.
4:54He's literally two days before they tried to kill Trump, he's joking about Melania being a widow. And you know, it's just starting to feel like maybe the rhetoric is too much, although they never turned it back. Anyway, here is Jimmy Kimmel defending his expectant widow joke about Melania. It seemed like they were all together in a room. We had a little roast. Again, this was Thursday, and there was no big reaction to it until this morning when I greeted the day facing yet another Twitter vomit storm. And a call to fire me from our first lady, Melania Trump, saying I should be fired because of a joke I made, again, five nights ago.
5:35It was a pretend roast. I said, our first lady Melania is here. Look at her so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you'll have a glow like an expectant widow, which obviously was a joke about their age difference and the look of joy we see on her face every time they're together. It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger than I am. It was not by any stretch of the definition a call to assassination. And they know that. I've been very vocal for many years speaking out against gun violence in particular. I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject.
6:14I do, and I think a great place to start, to dial that back, would be to have a conversation with your husband about it. Because, um... God, where is Johnny Carson when we need him? Like, we've been reduced. I mean, to whatever extent these shows matter anymore beyond creating outrage, it's like we've been reduced to this partisan drivel at night where we once had the king of late night, Johnny Carson, who it was a little bit of poking at everybody, but it wasn't really political. And it was actually funny, which was quite groundbreaking at the time. You know, I just asked the guys during the clip there, did anyone think that it was a joke about age?
6:50Because that if it let's say he's telling you the truth about that. There is not one second where I thought it was about age. It was pretty clear about he's just going to die soon. Now, did he mean I hope he gets assassinated? I don't know. I don't know what it's hard to know what's in this guy's heart or mind or, you know, And keep in mind, he has 20 writers coming up with that, but all these guys here all said nobody watched the original joke and thought it was a joke about age. Now, it is true that Melania has come out and basically said that he should be fired. I wanna be very clear about something because I'm seeing a lot of people on the right, a lot of the free speech people on the right, calling for him to be fired.
7:28I am actually not calling for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. I think it would have been well within ABC's right over the last, how many years has that guy had that show? But let's say the last five years when everything has gotten hyper-political, you know, COVID, Russia, Russia, Russia, and all that. I think it would have been well within their right and probably a decent business decision had they fired him, not because of calling for anyone to be killed or anything like that, but really because he's been a terrible comedian who has taken, you know, these late night shows used to be institutions that bring us together.
8:00That's why I always reference Johnny Carson. and he is one of the lead guys, Colbert, who's about to be unemployed, but cashed in at about 20 million a year or two. They created this hyper-partisan nature. You could even go back even, you only have to go back that far. You go back 10 years ago, Jay Leno running The Tonight Show post-Johnny Carson for 20 years. Was he hyper-partisan? Jay Leno happens to be a little more of a conservative. Nobody knew anything about his politics. As a matter of fact, people used to give him crap for it because people didn't like, and I include myself in that. I've come to like him and respect Jay Leno a lot more over the years because he just was trying to be funny.
8:35Whether he was funny or not is almost irrelevant. He wasn't trying to alienate half of America. David Letterman, he's now come out as more of a lefty, but when he was doing his show, you damn well know that every day that they were in that writer's room, they were just like, what is funny tonight? And it wasn't hyper-partisan lunacy. So I am not, personally, Dave Rubin is not calling for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired because of a joke. It was a bad joke and particularly to the backdrop of almost another assassination attempt to imply that Melania is gonna be a widow soon, even though it was two days before.
9:10The timing all feels weird, but I don't think that he should be fired. Well, first off, I don't think the government should force ABC to fire him. That would be a violation of the First Amendment. But Melania, as the First Lady, she has First Amendment rights too, and she could say, I think ABC should fire them. ABC has to decide what to do. They have to decide what's in the best interest for them as a corporation. And is this show a net positive for them in terms of cashflow and narrative and everything else? That's what they have to decide. But I am seeing a lot of people in the right, like fire them, fire them, fire them.
9:45And I think we, those of us who have been against this cancel culture the entire time, let's not forget Roseanne Barr put out one tweet, one tweet about Valerie Jarrett, I think, about, what, 10 years ago, when she had the number one show on television, she put out one tweet and they fired her from the number one show on television. They have a right to do that. It's not the government coming in and doing it. And we have to be careful what we're wishing for here if we're gonna have the government put pressure on companies, even though ABC is a massive corporation and there's connections with the government and everything else and they have an FCC license.
10:22I just think we have to be a little bit careful there. However, the broader point here is that Jimmy Kimmel has been awful forever. And this is not a 50-50 equation where it's like, okay, this side does it and this side does it, but it basically turns out to be a wash. It simply is not that. Here's some edits of Mr. Kimmel. We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points. Our First Lady Melania is here. Look at, so beautiful. Mrs.
10:57Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow. So the reason I'm showing you that one, and trust me, we've shown you plenty of them over the years, like the horrible pandering, lying, just absolute lies. Like a joke is supposed to be something truthful that then you could put a twist on it and then you make it funny. And that's how we don't all kill each other, right? Oscar Wilde said, you know, if you want to tell people the truth, you do it with humor, otherwise they will punch you in the face. I'm loosely quoting right there. And that's the point. So what he did in the first portion of what we just showed you is when it comes to Tyler Robinson, he completely lied about what his political affiliation was and what his belief set was, right?
11:34He was obviously not one of, when he says one of them, he means one of MAGA. He was a trans lefty activist who had been radicalized after growing up in a fairly conservative family actually. So he was definitely more one of you than one of us, if that's the framing you wanna use, but you're all right, so you're allowed to do that joke and completely lie about what's going on. And now you're upset that you're getting pushback when you do something that in essence was at least an implication of the death of the president of the United States. Here's Caroline Levitt on the quality of Jimmy Kimmel's comedy.
12:11For example, as the first lady of the United States pointed out this morning, just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's late night host, Jimmy Kimmel, disgustingly called First Lady Melania Trump an expectant widow. Who in their right minds says a wife would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband? And having experienced what I did with the First Lady on Saturday night, I can tell you that she was anything but that. This kind of rhetoric about the President, the First Lady and his supporters is completely deranged and it's unbelievable that the American people are consuming it night after night after night.
12:47All right. So the question here is, does the government have any right to force ABC's hand here? Now, again, I would say no. Now, there might be some, if you look at the full scope of the FCC rules and everything, and we've talked about this before around some of Colbert and Kimmel's jokes, there might be some FCC violation when they fully are using their platforms to lie about things. You know, they've basically, because the irony is they've ironically turned these quote unquote comedy shows into news shows. And that's the problem. It's why technically The View, if I'm not mistaken, please check me on this.
13:23The View is part of ABC's entertainment division, not their news division. Because if it was part of their news division, they would have to have a higher standard when it comes to telling the truth. So instead they keep them under the entertainment wing, thus they can lie and do all of their nonsense and offer their half-assed retractions all the time. Now, it's not for the government to say what we, what all of us take in as entertainment, right? Like I wouldn't want, if I made a bad joke, I'm sure I've made it, I mean, I know they're all bangers when I'm doing them, but like, maybe it's possible I could make a bad joke one day.
13:55I could, I could. And would we want the government calling YouTube to say, Dave Rubin cannot be on your platform anymore? Of course not. So I just think to me, the best thing that could happen here is we just mock the hell out of Kimmel. We expose the hell out of Kimmel. The advertisers then in turn are like, you know, maybe this is a bit much with this guy. Like it's too much. It's been going on for too long. And then the market will decide. So I would say to those people who are on the right, let's have a little faith in the free market. Let's have a little faith in free speech, et cetera. Let's not become what they are that we are so critical of.
14:36Here's a bit more of Kimmel trying to explain his way out of this thing. I am sorry that you and the president and everyone in that room on Saturday went through that. I really am. Just because no one got killed doesn't mean it wasn't traumatic and scary. And we should come together and be best. We really should. But if you want us to believe that a joke I made three days before this dinner had any effect on anything that happened, well, then maybe someone should look into this psychic lady, too. This speech tonight will be classic Donald J. Trump. It'll be funny. It'll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight.
15:15You know what? It's so thin, Jimmy. Those things are not comparable at all, right? You've got 20 writers coming up with the joke about Melania being a widow. That's her in an interview using a colloquial phrase, shots fired. No one thinks that means it literally. But again, I'm not calling for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. Now, here's a guy who I really admire as a broadcaster. He was on the show two weeks ago. I've had him on many times. The first television appearance I ever made was on the Bill O 'Reilly show on Fox, probably 15 years ago now. You guys know how much I respect Bill. I actually disagree with his opinion here, but you know me.
15:53I like showing both sides of things. So here he is talking, or here he is saying that Jimmy should be fired and the affiliate stations should drop him. What is your response to Jimmy Kimmel's continued division with his platform? Well, he shouldn't be on the air, of course. I mean, he's not a comedian. He's not a satirist. He's there to hate President Trump. Disney knows that. But Disney runs a couple operations like The View. That's all they do is hate Trump. So what has to happen now is that the affiliated stations, and this did happen the last time Kimmel pulled this kind of stuff, got to dump them and i'm not i i am about as liberal a man when it comes to freedom of speech and satire i understand it all i want it to be there but this is hate yeah that's what this is and disney is trafficking in hate all right so we'll reach out to bill to get him back on or i'll go on his show and we should talk this out now i don't have a huge disagreement is it hate and is Is it hate?
16:58Like, is it endless hate that these guys put out there and lies about Trump across the board and about half the country? And are they trying to manipulate us and all those things? Absolutely yes. The question is, does someone have the right to, not the right, because you don't have a right to a TV show, but if a network decides to give someone a TV show, are they allowed to do whatever they want without interference from the government? The answer to that is yes. So I do agree. Jimmy Kimmel is not a comedian, by the way. We would have looked at the comedian standards, say, 20, 30 years ago. But he is a partisan hack who is working for a corporation, in this case, Disney, giving them exactly what they want.
17:40But again, I would say rather than all of us being as outraged as the left is over everything. And when Roseanne Barr made her silly joke about Valerie Jarrett, they all demanded she be fired and she did get fired. Would that help us? In other words, if Jimmy Kimmel at the end of today does not have a job, did we really accomplish anything? Or is it better to just keep exposing him, keep mocking him? And if you have a friend that watches the Jimmy Kimmel show, you go, what is wrong with you, you dullard? But of course, the entire machine now is in a huge, and this happened already. We've been through several versions of this where Kimmel has said stupid, really just noxious, stupid things.
18:20and then everyone pretends that this is about his First Amendment right to free speech, which it isn't. Jimmy Kimmel privately can say whatever the high hell he wants. When you are on the broadcast network of ABC, the standards are, there's corporate standards, and again, there might be some FCC stuff there that is actually applicable here. But the entire machine right now is running in defense of Jimmy Kimmel, and they want to make this a First Amendment issue. Here's Brian Potato Head Stelter. Yeah, that's right. Disney is standing by Jimmy Kimmel. Disney is ignoring the president's pressure to fire him, and that's important to point out first.
18:54We have seen some big examples of media company capitulation in the last year and a half, and this is not one of those examples. My sense is that Disney is prepared to defend itself if need be and sees this as a First Amendment fight that is worth having. Well, that's very interesting, Brian Stelter, a guy who got fired from your show because you suck, then went to Harvard to teach journalism, which was ironic, and then got fired back because people just watch you because you suck so bad. It's ironic because on your network about a year ago, there was a guy by the name of Ryan Gerdusky who made a joke.
19:26And you know what happened to him? You don't want to be called Nazis. Stop doing it. You've been called an anti-Semite more than an analyst's table. No, by me. I never called you an anti-Semite. I mean, I'm not saying or saying. I'm a supporter of the Palestinians. I'm used to it. Well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off. I hope your beeper doesn't go off. And then he got fired. Now, that was obviously a joke. Nobody has a beeper anymore. I don't think Mehdi Hassan, who I think is a communist jihadi lunatic, I don't think he has a beeper. So it's implied that that's a joke, that, oh, ha, ha, ha, you're on the team of the guys who just had the beepers blown up.
20:06But CNN fired him. Potato Head, where were you on that one? Jake Tapper, where were you on that one? were Ryan Gerdusky's First Amendment rights infringed upon? Actually, the answer is no, because it wasn't the government that fired him. It was CNN that fired him, and Ryan is welcome to make that joke, and I just replayed that joke, and I'm not, thankfully, I'm my own boss. I'm not gonna fire myself. The chances I'm gonna drag myself into the office and go, Dave, that was a bit much, probably not gonna happen. Let's go back all the way to 2022. Here are Jake Tapper, a man who has pushed every hoax that has been exposed over the last however many years, and Jimmy Kimmel, and they are just disgusted by certain jokes being made by certain people.
20:51And it's not just the smears that they put out about Paul Pelosi, these deranged conspiracy theories. A lot of these folks, right-wing MAGA folks, tried to make jokes at Paul Pelosi's expense. Where's the line? I mean, I personally found those jokes by Don Jr. and others just horrible and not even remotely funny. I've said a million stupid things, and I would hope that people would decide whether an apology is sincere. When an apology isn't even offered, that's, I mean, listen, these people are supposed to be Christians. Well, that's the part that I really want to show you, because then they want to use your own Christian beliefs and your value set against you, even though they seem to think it's never applicable to them.
21:35Actually, in that little clip right there, like give the devil his due, they're allowed to be disgusted by things. They're allowed to ask people for apologies and everything else. But the point of showing you that is that right there, it was a joke about Paul Pelosi. They didn't like jokes that people on the right were making about Paul Pelosi, right? So what do you do? You're CNN. You then bring in the guy who's making all the same exact jokes going the other way, and he's now the judge, jury, and executioner about what jokes can be made. Do you see how absolutely insane that is? and really how it shows you that the Democrats and mainstream media, they are like this, or like this, or this, or this, or wait, it's a little of this.
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23:22That's cheershealth.com, code Rubin. Okay, so let's connect the general state of insanity. Again, as I said on the show on Monday, imagine this was the third attempt on Donald Trump's life. Imagine the unthinkable had happened. Like just try to imagine where we would be as a nation and the entire world right now. Like that's how close we are to the precipice. If these people keep infecting the minds of people, keep saying Hitler is in charge and more and more people get ginned up to take out Hitler. Well, now we're seeing, and it's been obvious for quite some time, but we're now seeing numbers, actual numbers on the levels of radicalization on the left.
24:05Let me show you something from Manhattan Institute, Vice President Jesse Arm. They did a survey on radicalization. In our last Manhattan Institute survey, we found that 46 % of today's Democrat coalition believes the assassination attempt against Donald Trump in 2024 was orchestrated by his supporters to increase sympathy for him. Okay, so now there's two things going on here. We have a certain set of people that are being radicalized. We know that. We showed you some numbers the other day about how basically 23 % of Democrats believe that violence can be used for political means, and then that's like real wokesters, and then it expands into just sort of the whatever sliver of more moderate liberals still exists.
24:49That's one version of it. That what I just read you right there is more on the conspiratorial side of things. So what they are saying is that Butler, the Butler incident where Donald Trump got shot, we all saw the blood, we all saw him fall and everything else and fight, fight, fight, that that was made up. What was the percentage there again? What was the percentage? It was 40, was it 43 %? 46. 46%. That's basically half of the people in the Democrat coalition think that that was a conspiracy. We're always told that we're the conspiracy theorists, we're the crazy ones, right? And you've got half in that coalition, that is crazy.
25:27But now, okay, so you've got the conspiracy side, Now let's connect it to the slow roll violence is okay side. You know, I show you this guy every now and again. They call him Charlemagne the God. His name's Lenny. I call him Lenny. Not calling anyone God. His name is Lenny. And Lenny has a program, and you may not watch this program or care, but he has a huge audience, and it is worth noting. And watch what he does here. He does the exact same thing from that clip that we showed you four or five times last week of Hassan Piker basically excusing violence. Trump's a bad guy, so, you know, stuff's going to happen.
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26:01And this is becoming ubiquitous across the left right now. Take a look. The Trump administration has caused so much pain to people's everyday lives that some folks are fed up and willing to risk it all. Simple as that. And if you're going to talk about anybody toning down violent political rhetoric, start with the president. All right. So first off, Lenny, I'd be happy to do the show and explain to you why you are wrong about that. But let's try it this way. Let me read you a tweet that I put up this morning. actually. Allow me to quote Dave Rubin on The Rubin Report. How about that? I think this will get it right.
26:32Joe Biden let in 20 million illegals into the country. That is far worse than anything Donald Trump has ever done. That still wouldn't have been a legitimate reason to excuse violence towards him. These people have no idea the Pandora's box they are opening. And that's the point. Lenny, you may feel that Donald Trump has made life bad for people, even though the economy actually is doing quite well right now, and the markets are really high, and gas prices are basically down, and if nothing else, he closed the border and stopped the invasion. But let's say you disagree with all of those things.
27:06Once you open that Pandora's box, once you open that thing, you cannot close it, and you have no idea what will come out of it, and you guys are opening it right now. Hassan Piker took the same position. Well, you know, Brian Thompson, healthcare CEO, Yo, he was a bad dude and people don't like their healthcare. So, you know, someone's gonna assassinate him in Times Square. It's the exact same thing you're saying. People are upset about Donald Trump, so someone's gonna do it. By that very logic, you, you would have a target on your own head, right? Like you say political things, Lenny. Bernie Sanders says political things.
27:46AOC says political things. And there are people on the right who find those things quite noxious. I find all of the ideas of the modern Democrat party which is a radically anti-American, anti-capitalist party, I find them all horrifically noxious. Once I go from, okay, you guys have a horrible set of ideas, and I'll mock you, and I'll make fun of you, and I'll call you out, and I'll expose you. Once I take that next step to, oh, and, you know, I'll kind of get it if somebody blows your brains out. Well, guess what? It's coming both ways, and truly it would be the end of the American experiment.
28:20And, guys, it's everywhere on the left right now. There is no one moderating this. We've shown you some videos of this guy, Wujahat Ali. I debated this ding-dong on Piers Morgan a couple of times. Here he is after the assassination attempt. Listen to this. I think most of the country is just done. We're like, mother effer, just die. Just leave. Just like, you know, let the grim reaper come in and take you from your cankles. I think people are sick and tired. You know, what we predicted while we're on that street, on street by uh on saturday says i was talking to some journalists i'm like by tuesday people will move on no one's gonna give a all right so he wants him to just die grim reaper come around now again first off he says most of the country well most of the country voted for donald trump and i'm gonna guess that there's even some people in your crazy democrat party that are not okay with the assassination or wouldn't be happy if donald trump just died today as as much as they hate him.
29:18If the president of the United States just had a heart attack today, God forbid, I'm going to guess that there's going to be a couple people that still have a little more of a heart than you do in that party, and they wouldn't be happy about it. But again, all they've got left at this point, basically, is not only tearing down everything that's good about America, but basically joking about, and in this case, wishing death on the president of the United States. Again, I despise Bernie Sanders as a human being. I think he has been an unbelievably horrible influence on this country, showing young people particularly, or tricking young people into thinking that envy is virtuous and ushering in socialism.
29:59And the revolution will eat him one day too, right? Because at the end of the day, he'll be an old white man, or in his case, he's an old white, he's LARPing Jew basically, but that's even worse than just being white. So it'll take him out one day, but I'm not for someone killing him, and I wouldn't excuse it in the slightest. And I guess what? I wouldn't excuse it if it happened to Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar or anything else. We have to have basic rules here, and if we do not, it's over. But let's show you a little bit how they play both sides on this stuff. Watch this. I mean, these things, again, it's so easy, thanks to the internet, to expose their ridiculousness.
30:31This is representative, New York Democrat representative. He's a total buffoon, Dan Goldman. And you tell me how this edit makes him look. We know what Donald Trump's rhetoric leads to because we know many times over how his followers use violence. The point is that we do need to dial it down on all sides. It is just unquestionable at this point that that man cannot see public office again. He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy and he has to be he has to be eliminated. has to be eliminated. We have to tone down the rhetoric. Do you see how profoundly ridiculous these people are?
31:21It's, I don't even know how to analyze this properly. Everything that you guys do is what you're accusing us of doing. And at the same time, it's your side that's constantly trying to kill the president of the United States. Think about the four years that we had under Joe Biden, COVID lockdowns, an absolute invasion of the country, crime rampant everywhere. No one knew who the president was. Did I, or can you think of one Republican once that implied that Joe Biden, that if someone just killed Joe Biden, things would be better. Or I'd, you know, I get it. You know, there's been an invasion, 20 million people came to the country.
31:56We have no idea who they are, what they're doing. They're bringing in drugs and raping people. I'd get it if someone killed him. Can you think of one person that said that? I can't. Can you? He can't either. and he knows about this stuff. Let's go to, you're an astute political thinker, right? You're not just sitting back there pressing buttons all day. Let's go to Arizona Democrat Senator Mark Kelly. And of course, what do the Democrats do? They never let a crisis go to waste. And what they really want right now, of course, is gun control. President Trump is making this argument. It's a security argument.
32:26He needs it. There are a lot of things he could be talking about right now. What do you make of his focus on that, on Kimmel as what he's using this moment for? I mean, instead of the ballroom, why isn't he calling out the need for some stronger gun laws? Or maybe we should figure out how to regulate social media companies so they're not making a profit off of dividing us as a nation. That's where some of this dangerous action comes from. And then, by the way, what's next? He builds this ballroom. He stays inside the compound. I mean, is he gonna put up a moat or a wall next around the White House?
33:07I mean, our president is not a monarch. They should be out there with the people. This is so dangerous and dumb what these people are doing. Okay, first off, let's do, he did a couple different things there. Number one on the gun thing. First off, an armed population is a safe population. I don't even have to explain that any further. Okay, you have every right and it is your God given right to protect your family and your property and everything else. Just because someone had a gun and had horrible intentions doesn't mean you take away our God-given rights. But think about it this way. Let's say right now, Donald Trump was like, you know what, I thought about it.
33:45It's the third time someone's tried to shoot me. Let's take away some guns. Do you realize what you've done right there? You've fully incentivized more people to shoot more people because the people who are anti-gun will be like, boy, if we threaten and we start shooting people, what does the government do? It takes away more people's guns. So that is the most trap door of a move you could possibly ever do. That's number one. Then he's upset about the polarization that's happening on social media. Well, I agree that that's happening, but it was your party that admittedly was working with, and you might argue a fascist type way because fascism is when the government works with giant corporations to silence all of us and manipulate and de-boost and demonetize and everything else, particularly during COVID and around the 2020 election and everything else.
34:29So I don't like you very much, Mark Kelly, but I don't think anyone should kill you. That's the fundamental difference between what it seems to be to be the most moderate position of someone on the right versus what a position, you know, whatever it is on the left at this point. Now there is one or two guys, you know, who we're talking about already on the left who are not completely insane. One of them had horrific brain damage And as his brain healed, he became more conservative. It's a rather interesting story that will make a hell of a movie one day. Of course, I'm talking about Mr. Hoodie sweatshirt himself, John Vetterman.
35:04And here he is saying that he never really got why Trump wanted the ballroom. But, you know, after all the shootings, maybe he kind of gets it now. It's just absurd to me why we wouldn't have a more secure issue and have the kind of event just like the ballroom. I never really had an issue with the ballroom before all that. But clearly what happened there, I can't imagine why we can't just agree. Like, look, I don't have to love everything about it. You know, we do need that kind of a facility. And, you know, the president may not even be in office when it's even finished, how it's done. But our country deserves that.
35:42And that's going to create a venue for more secure and inclusive and really more accessible for people. I don't know what he means by inclusive there, but we'll let that go. First off, remember guys, the ballroom that they are building right now is not costing taxpayers a dime. It is privately funded, not one dime. You will not have paid for this ballroom. By the way, it never popped into my mind, I literally mean this, it never popped into my mind until the last couple of days that Trump's intention with the ballroom had anything to do with security, right? The guy goes everywhere all the time, despite the threats.
36:19It never crossed my mind that maybe this had something to do with, so that they would have a venue at the White House, an indoor venue, they do a lot of stuff outdoors, an indoor venue that would be better suited related to security if they want to have hundreds or thousands of people inside at the same time. So I think there is something legit there. So again, it's not going to cost you a dime. And there obviously are some security reasons that it is legitimate. But this, I thought this was super interesting. So this is my buddy Jimmy Fallon over on Fox. You know, he does the Saturday night, late night show over there.
36:52And he was doing like red carpet stuff at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. And here he is caught on a hot mic before the shooting, before the shooting, and listen to what he was saying about the lack of security at the Hilton. And what do they have like two random chicks holding the front door open? We're not even trying anymore. That's just off the cuff stuff before the shooting. Now, there were metal detectors. People have shown pictures of it. I've also seen reports and people, one or two people who I know, who were saying that the security was seriously lax and not everyone had to go through.
37:32Hopefully the FBI will look into all of that stuff and they'll do a full autopsy, no pun intended, on the entire thing and figure out what worked or what didn't. But it is fairly obvious, as the temperature keeps getting ramped up by the Democrats, that doing things at the Hilton Hotel or a lot of these things are at massive convention centers. You know, many of the political things that I've been to over the years, the Turning Point events, etc., they're at huge convention centers where there are, you know, dozens of entries and people can get in all sorts of ways. And the question is, in the climate that we seem to be in right now, is it worth having a facility at the White House itself that would make these things more secure?
38:16I see no reason to not do that, especially, again, because we're not paying for it. But hopefully everything can get turned down and then the president would be able to be doing more of these things out there. Here is Dan Bongino with a rather intense request for Tmue Obama, Hakeem Jeffries. Hey, I got to address one thing. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Well, I want to ask you. You addressed earlier Hakeem Jeffries talking about this civility thing. Listen, Hakeem, we're not asking for civility, guy. We're just asking that your Democrats just stop trying to shoot President Trump. OK, we're not. Forget civility.
38:58We don't give a damn if you're nice and if you write respectfully at the end of your emails. Just please stop trying to shoot the president. Can we just agree on that, Mr. Jeffries? I'm sorry. I just had to address. I was a little annoyed when I heard that. I really love Dan. He's just great. Look, he's right, of course, right? And Dan's a free speech guy. So again, this is not that we want the government to come in now. I can speak for myself. I don't want the government to come in and force ABC's hand. on Kimmel. But that's really a, that's just one symptom of the much larger disease right now.
39:34And the disease is what we showed you with Dan Goldman. And the disease is what we showed you with Lenny Charlemagne. And the disease is what we've been showing you with Hassan and blood in the streets and Rick Scott's not for universal healthcare, go kill him and the rest of it. Like they are testing and testing and testing. You know what this is? Maybe we can make a meme about this. It's Jurassic Park. Remember at the end of Jurassic Park, like that last half hour, that great moment with the raptors when they're trying to break into the kitchen and you suddenly realize they can open the door and they're testing, right?
40:07They're testing and they're tapping and they're testing that. Can we grab that? Maybe we grab that image or we'll throw it at the end of the show or something. And they're just trying to make, see if what they can do. And you realize they're learning. They're quite literally learning and they're learning together. Well, that's kind of what the Democrats are right now. They're a bunch of raptors and they are testing the system and seeing how far they can pull and push. And, you know, it's ironic. I think I really nailed this one. They are trying to open that door or in this case, the Pandora's box that I mentioned earlier.
40:35Do we have the image of that crazy hook that the velociraptor have? We're working on it trying to open up that door. And once they, again, once they open up that door, we can do the exact same thing on our side and it will not be just and it will not be right or anything else. And there you go. So that's it right there. Yeah, right, that's it right there. So you've got what a great, I saw that in the theater, I think on opening night, 1994, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Syosset Triplex, Long Island, and the smoke out of his nose, the little steam right there. And then yeah, he's testing that door, and that's what they are doing right now.
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42:29And in essence has exposed hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud, of federal money going to these largely Somali run schemes in the state of Minnesota, which are deeply connected to not only Ilhan Omar, but Tim Walz, who quite literally is not running for governor again for re-election, even though he wanted to be vice president because he's caught in the scheme himself. Here's Nick Shirley about some of the threats he has faced as two months ago or three months ago, he was not known by anybody. And now basically everyone knows who he is. The threats and the risk are actually very real. In fact, today, April 27th, is a day that I'm supposedly supposed to die according to a threat made on the Internet.
43:10In fact, it's a photo of me in a ditch with a decaptated head that says this is going to be you on April 27th, 2026 in a muddy ditch alongside the highway with your mother. Enjoy your last couple of months, buddy. So, I share this not to scare people, but to more so show them what it's actually like kind of being in the political climate, not just seeing it from the outside, but being someone who's actually living through it. Especially with the last assassination attempt on Donald Trump, the threats are real, and you do have a small percentage of the country, even if it's just 1%, that has gone radical.
43:53Paul. All right. There's a couple of things to talk about here. Look, he was just some guy that was like, I'm going to look into something. Does he strike you as someone that really wants fame, really wants what now is coming to him? Does he strike you as someone that's like money hungry or something like that? He went and did what the mainstream media is supposed to do. He just started doing a little exploration, a little investigative reporting, and he's getting crazy debt threats. You know, I get all sorts of threats, all sorts of threats. And sometimes I have to have police cars outside of my house.
44:27I got crazy amount of cameras here. We have other security things. We have, sometimes we have people that are, that are working here on site. I don't like talking about it. I don't like getting into it or anything else. We've been doxed. We've all sorts of crazy stuff, right? To me, it now, unfortunately, is just baked into doing what I do, right? And Charlie paid the ultimate price for doing what we do. But it does not have to be this way. And I suspect that the people who are the equivalents of, say, me and Nick Shirley and Charlie Kirk and ironically Donald Trump, the equivalents of us on the left, I don't think they're dealing with these kind of threats.
45:08Now, that doesn't mean they don't happen at all. They obviously do. But again, it is not a 50-50 situation. Now, the irony about Nick Shirley, oh, wait, can you throw up the screenshot there of what he showed you? So apparently the guy who made the death threat, his screen name, I guess, on X is Joey Mountains. Now, what's particularly interesting about this is that guy's got the blue check. That means that his account, you only can get the blue check if you're verified on Twitter, meaning you've connected your account to a credit card. So I suspect that that right now is being looked at by the FBI or the DOJ, and we will see what comes of that.
45:45Like these people often are not the brightest bulbs available. Anyway, what is it that put Nick Shirley on the map? It's that he exposed the fraud in Minnesota. And then what happened yesterday? Well, there were absolutely massive, the biggest yet FBI raids in Minneapolis. this. Large scale raids targeting federal fraud currently underway. Federal agents seem leaving the quality learning center. And Brooke Taylor has more on that and what they're looking for. Brooke, good morning. Hi, Bill. Good morning. Yeah, we have had a photographer there at the daycare since this morning capturing video of those federal agents just going in and out of the building, collecting evidence as part of the DOJ's fraud investigation in Minnesota.
46:33Take a look at this video here. Sources tell Fox that federal agents are raiding about 22 businesses across Minneapolis this morning, and sources say many of them are tied to Somali-owned operations. All of this comes after that viral YouTube video from Nick Shirley. It was back in December. In that video, he visited different child care centers. And you'll remember they were either closed or there were just no children inside despite receiving state child care funding. OK, so 22 businesses in Minnesota, largely Somali run, are now being looked at because of Nick Shirley. And then what subsequently has happened to Nick Shirley?
47:13Well, he's got people threatening to kill him. Did he do anything bad? Did he do anything mean? Did he do anything racist or or anything else? Obviously the answer to all of that is no. He quite literally did the reverse. But they've created the conditions that, oh, you're exposing fraud. There happens to be a lot of fraud in the Somali community. And by the way, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who I had on the show months ago, who is also Somali, she talked about how the Somali community, that it's kind of baked into some of their cultural norms to you abuse a system as much as possible once you're in it. She talked about that from a Somali perspective.
47:51but now he's under death threat. And then this one is just wild. I honestly thought this was AI when I saw it yesterday for the first time. This is now Governor Tim Walz to the backdrop of these raids that are happening. He wrote this. If you commit fraud in Minnesota, you're going to get caught. And that's exactly what we saw today. We catch criminals when state and federal agencies share information. Joint investigations work and securing justice depends on it. That has got to win the most ironic tweet of 2026. period, we can end it, end it. We're not even five months into this thing, end it right now.
48:25The guy who is in charge of the fraud, who's going to go down because of the fraud, who isn't running for reelection because of the fraud, he is now like, oh, who also accused ICE of being racist and get out of our streets and we're not gonna work with you and we're gonna defund you and everything else. He's now, because he sees that this thing can't be stopped, he suddenly is like, yeah, well, we love the FBI and you guys could fix some of this stuff up and everything else. And well, Kash Patel, head of our FBI, he saw that and he wrote this. Come again? This FBI and DOJ with our DHS partners drafted and executed every search warrant today.
49:02But go ahead and take credit for our work while we smoke out the fraud plaguing Minnesota under your governorship. Like if you think that Tim Walz had anything to do with helping the federal government on this, well, I've got a quality leering center to sell you. Here's more of what's going on in Minnesota. And I was actually in Minnesota yesterday. We'll tell you why in a couple of days. But here is a speaker at the Minnesota State Capitol explaining to us once again that Somalis built Minnesota. They just, they were out there building the entire thing out of bananas and rice apparently. So Minnesotans, I mean not Minnesotans, Somalis brought more than just, more than just built the, they didn't just build the economy, but we contribute to the soul of this great state.
49:47and I want to remind you that no human is illegal ever.
50:01Can I get the translation on that one? Did anyone? That was a little my, no? No, we can't. He's like, dude, I'll do Chinese, I can't do Somali. Let me remind that lady that the phrase, no human is illegal is completely idiotic. If I went to Canada today and I said I'm Canadian, they would say you're illegal, you have to go. We can do this in any country. So to say, okay, so you wanna tell us how great the Somalis have been for Minnesota, fine. We'll have some numbers on that in just a second. But okay, you wanna tell us the Somalis built Minnesota. They didn't have the Mayo Clinic there or anything else before the Somalis, fine.
50:32You wanna tell us that, okay. But don't tell me no one is illegal. And it's ironic, you're telling us they built the place and then you're also basically like no one's illegal. The implication being is a whole bunch of them are illegal. Well, let me just give you some basic stats. This is from the Center for Immigration Studies, and you can like them or you cannot like them, but these are the stats. 81 % of Somali households in Minnesota are on welfare. 73 % are on Medicaid. 54 % are on food stamps. 89 % of Somali households with kids are on welfare. But they built Minnesota somehow. Now, again, I don't want you to be racist against them or have prejudice against them or anything else.
51:12Phoenix and I were at the Minnesota airport yesterday. Our waitress was Somali. She was very lovely and we tipped her accordingly. Okay, so you have to treat people as individuals, but that doesn't mean you ignore overall patterns. And in this pattern, for whatever reason, the Somali community has not only been abusing the system via fraud, but they are taking way more out of the system than they are putting in. That just is reality. I'm sorry to say it. I'm also sorry that this lady's in Congress and this is a doozy. So first, here's Ilhan mocking Americans who voted for Trump, and then the most viral video clip of the last two days, which was just extraordinary.
51:50These people are just idiots. I really, you know, I'm at the point where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people. The dumbing of the United States has arrived because how else do we get a Trump presidency again? The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants during World War XI. Did I hear that right? World War XI? Have I been in a coma, guys? Did something go down? So, of course, what she's reading is the Roman numerals, World War II, and she thinks it's World War XI. And look, you know, you can read things and make mistakes.
52:35I do it. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes you're reading a prompter. It might go too fast. You know, whatever it is, you look away, something changes. That she read World War XI and then didn't stop for one minute and think, what did I just say? What? World War XI? Does anyone remember World War XI? I think we actually have some video from World War XI, which I believe took place in Minnesota. It was the Great Bananas and Rice War. This is war! Charge for the bananas! For the bananas! Rice is ready! Let's go! Fire for the Alliance! Charge for the food!
53:14And we lost 252 ,000 good bananas during that war. Here's just to contrast where the parties are at right now. Let's step away from the fraud for a second. So you have one party that is completely, well not step away from the fraud. We're going to show you how you go against it. You have one party that is completely in bed with all of the fraud. And by the way, we could connect this to what we talked about last week with the Southern Poverty Law Center funding the bad guys that they claim to be fighting. Like that's fraudulent. It's fraudulent when they fund things that don't actually do the things they're supposed to do like, you know, childcare or hospices, et cetera.
53:46That's what the Democrats are doing. What are the Republicans doing? The Republicans are auditing the hell out of the government and trying to make sure that our dollars are actually spent properly. Here's Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Discipline, accountability, and transparency. These are the basic fiscal standards that every American taxpayer should demand from their government. It's what you deserve, but also what the Pentagon has historically failed to execute on time and time again. Today, that changes, as it has during this administration. The era of excuses is over. Under President Trump, we will secure a clean, unquestionable audit on our 2028 financial statements.
54:29And it is a top priority for the Pentagon, has been since day one. What did I always tell you about Hegsa? They were going to hate him because of two things, pedigree, ability to communicate, and that's it right there. The pedigree part is obvious. He works out with the troops. But the bigger part is he's an incredible communicator of the ideas, and he's camera ready and a clear communicator, whether it was the Iran war, which in essence is on pause at the moment or just talking about an audit that we're going to do. And that's the difference. Can you imagine literally any Democrat? Pick a Democrat.
55:05Do you think any of them? The Democrats, they always want more of your money, but they never want to audit anything. Makes you wonder. You know, they always, they need a little more cash. They never want to tell you where the cash is going, how much cash they're wasting. And here you have the secretary of the head of war. Hey, we're going to see what we're doing over here. And if we can cut, we're going to cut. And guess what? If we cut, you're gonna have a little more money back to yourself. But now let's go back to the Democrats because while the Republicans are trying to keep the wheels on the car so we don't go off into the cliff, the Democrats are continuing to burn down everything that is right about this country.
55:42So let's go back to Tim Walls, a man who now is, as a moment ago, was just taking credit for the FBI going into Minnesota. Here he is with his real thoughts on ICE. And then we experienced an unthinkable federal invasion of our state. For months, armed lawless gangs roamed our communities in a campaign of organized brutality. Families lived in fear. Children were separated from their parents, neighbors from neighbors. Minnesotans who had done nothing wrong were subjected to racial profiling and unlawful detentions. Armed lawless gangs. Well, you know, someone might hear that and, you know, keep telling their Gestapo and everything else, which is what he has said.
56:26You might shoot one of them. You might dox one of them, which is why they wear masks. Neighbor separated from neighbor. People who've done nothing wrong. It is wrong to illegally enter a country. If I went to Japan to have sushi with Jiro, I keep doing this one. Is he still in business? Is Jiro still? Yeah, I don't think he's doing it. Jiro's semi-retired, older. if you don't know the story of, what is it? I Dream of Jiro or Shiro or something. Yeah, dreams of, yeah. The guy makes, an older Japanese guy that makes sushi, okay? Really famous. If I went to Japan to have some sushi with him and then I just stayed there forever, I would be illegal.
57:01Everything they do is a lie. Everything they do. One of the other big lies that they've pushed on us repeatedly is that they are only withholding the DHS funding, this partial government shutdown we are in, because they want to stop, they want to defund ICE. As I have pointed out roughly one billion times, ICE is funded through 2029. It has nothing to do with DHS funding. So they are trying to extract maximum pain on you so that you will hopefully turn that pain on Trump. Here is Ro Khanna again, a guy who just every day this guy gets worse. Here he is with Brian Kilmeade. But you don't need to hope you don't have to hold a segment of the country hostage that live paycheck to paycheck because you decide you thought ICE was overaggressive.
57:46So they changed the way they did. They put a new person in charge, and you're still not funding it. It is just maddening, Congressman. They've got$75 billion already funded, and the real issue is that the Democrats want to fund TSA. We want to fund the Border Patrol. We want changes in ICE because we feel that ICE has been a rogue agency. But, look, we should have a conversation about what we can do in immigration reform to move this forward. They're liars and extortionists. That's all they are. Again, he's just lying. The things are disconnected. So I get you want ICE to be reformed, but this isn't really the language.
58:26How about suck it, bitch? I think I could say that. That could be you, right? It's just like enough, dude. Stop lying over and over and over. And what else do they do besides lying? They also, they're liars, and they are also the racists. They're always saying we're racists, but they're the racists. Here they are admitting it. It's Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. I've been very intentional about making sure that my administration, unlike previous administrations, have people who work for me that reflect the community. Once upon a time, just to be very blunt with you, two administrations ago, 70 percent of the mayor's administration were white men, right?
59:05And that's just not a diversified approach. A, who cares? B, you are quite literally breaking federal anti-discrimination law. I know for whatever reason, you're not gonna pay the price for that, but you literally hire people based on the color of their skin. I hire people based on how little I can pay them. That's why I brought these people in. No, I hire people based on whether they work hard and they're good and they're decent human beings. That's what you're supposed to do. So you're not only doing something illegal, you are doing something that inherently, this was the great trick they pulled at us on DEI.
59:39No one's saying don't hire black people. No one's saying only hire white people. What we're saying is in America, which is supposed to be a meritocracy, you hire the best people. And over time, that's how you make things better. But if you artificially say, we're gonna bring in these people to do this thing based on the color of their skin, over time, the services will be degraded, right? That is absolute, your pilots will be worse. You know, I was on a Delta flight yesterday. Delta still, they still have their 2024 awards and they had a DEI sticker on the plane. I took a picture of it. Maybe we'll show it in the post-game show.
1:00:10Like, they still have that. But over time, if you say, okay, we want a certain amount of pilots to be black and a certain amount of doctors to be Latino or whatever else, it's not that black people can't be doctors. They can. It's not that Latino people can't be lawyers or anything else. It's that you are discriminating thus. Well, first off, you're gonna create a generation of people who've been discriminated against who actually will become racist. And in some sense, it will be a sensible racism in a weird way. But you will also degrade the service. And then things will get worse, which actually is kind of what the Democrats want.
1:00:44And to prove that everything they touch, they destroy. This story is so depressing because it was so obvious. So last year, ABC in New York, ABC News in New York, did a story about a bodega owner who was worried about his safety, right? Because the crime was running rampant. This is pre-Mamdami, but the city's been going the wrong way for a long time. Well, a couple of days ago, yeah, he was killed and they covered it. He himself spoke with Eyewitness News a year ago, saying he worried about violence against bodega workers he'd seen on social media. People got shot, killed, sometimes got robbed, and the police never respond quick.
1:01:20Tonight, the organization is wondering if the person who shot Abdul Salah was someone who shouldn't have been on the street. You know, in this case, Abdul Salah sounds like he was Arab, probably. They don't care about that. It's just you let crime run rampant and it's even gonna kill some of your own people like this is what they do in blue cities I mean just the fact that they did a story about the guy saying I'm worried and a year later He's dead, but that that is what's going on there I thought Elon summed it up quite well in one of his many viral tweets He saw that video we just showed you right there He said if extremely violent criminals are not imprisoned eventually they will murder innocent people This is basic low-level stuff and until we become a serious country again And there will be pockets in mostly blue states, in blue cities that continue to get worse and worse.
1:02:05I wanna finish up with one thing, which was sort of the other big story. I told you this is just a jam, like we're doing a lot today, which is that acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, says that former FBI director, James Comey, has now been indicted over his post, which threatened to kill Donald Trump. Go. He knowingly and willfully making a threat to take the life of and to inflict bodily harm upon the president of the United States. Count two, same day, May 15, 2025, that the defendant, James Comey, knowingly and willfully transmitting in interstate commerce, a communication that contained a threat to kill the president of the United States.
1:02:45Both of these counts carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 10 years. Other incidents of threats against the president of the United States, those will be investigated. There's one thing that will never be different, which is that you cannot threaten to kill the president of the United States. Okay, you cannot threaten to kill the president of the United States. You also can't threaten to kill citizens of the United States. That is not protected free speech. As you may remember, what Comey did was this. I think we have the image, right? He posted, he was on the beach and he posted this. It said 8647 in shells.
1:03:19Now, 86, of course, any of you who've ever been a bartender or a waiter or if you've worked in a restaurant or whatever, 86 is when they're out of something, 86. 86 the steak, we don't have anymore. 86 the filet, we're out. The implication is 86, take out. Everyone knew what he meant. Now, was he really, and he just posted that, and I think he, if I'm not mistaken, he said basically I didn't know what it was or I thought it was funny or something like that. I don't know, do you throw the former FBI director in jail over that? I'm actually not sure what you do in these cases, but they keep, but again, this is the raptor thing that I was saying about Jurassic Park.
1:03:56They're just testing the door a little bit. So the former FBI director will imply someone should kill the president. And the biggest Twitch streamer on the left, this Hassan guy will basically say, I understand why people killed Brian Thompson, the healthcare CEO. And then Lenny, big radio guy on the left, will say, I would understand why somebody might kill Trump, they're upset. And then everyone will keep saying they're Nazis and racist and everything else. And then eventually, do you think something might happen? But again, this is the challenge. not only on the free speech side of what do we want to allow these people to say, protect their free speech, but also do you then want to start jailing people?
1:04:30I'm actually, I'm open to arguments on this one. But anyway, here's Comey's response to the DOJ indictment. This time about a picture of seashells on a North Carolina beach a year ago. And this won't be the end of it. But nothing has changed with me. I'm still innocent. I'm still not afraid. and I still believe in the independent federal judiciary, so let's go. But it's really important that all of us remember this is not who we are as a country. This is not how the Department of Justice is supposed to be. And the good news is we get closer every day to restoring those values. Keep the faith. Even the way he ended that, we get closer every day to restoring these values.
1:05:14So once we get rid of Trump, because I don't like Trump, then we'll be better, right? Everything will be better or we'll be more democratic or something like that. And it's just thin and it's not true. And by the way, if you're worried about a weaponized DOJ, you might want to look at what Biden's DOJ did to Donald Trump, right? Let's try to get him off ballots. Let's make sure he can't do business in New York City, et cetera, assassination attempts as he's running for president, et cetera, et cetera. Let's go back to Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona. Here he is on the Comey indictment. Hey, these are unprecedented times we're in here.
1:05:55I mean, we've never had a government that goes after perceived enemies like this and violate people's constitutional rights. What are you talking about? We've never had that before. Do you know what you guys just did to Donald Trump? Do you know what you did to the January 6th grandmas? Do you know what you did to this group of people, including America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Trump's lawyers who have been disbarred and everything else? Do you remember any of that? Any of it? Do you, does anyone remember any of that? Let's just end real quick because obviously we haven't covered the Iran war in the last few days.
1:06:31We're in the midst of a very shaky ceasefire. There are some good things happening. Right now, as we have the Strait of Hormuz blockaded, which is basically costing us nothing, it's costing Iran$500 million a day. That's 1.3 billion a month. That's also choking China on the energy side, Phoenix Roll for me a little bit. And what that in essence is doing is giving us leverage. We don't have to bomb in this case. We're using economic leverage to get Iran to come to the table. This is truth from Donald Trump. Iran can't get their act together. They don't know how to sign a non-nuclear deal. They better get smart soon, President Donald J.
1:07:05Trump. And well, for those of you listening on the audio podcast, it says no more Mr. Nice Guy. And that's Trump holding what I believe is an AR-15 with some things blowing up behind him. Do you think this is negotiation Trump style or what? And here's a little update from Rubio as to where we're at at the moment. Do you believe the Iranians are serious about making a deal? I think the Iranians are serious about getting themselves out of the mess that they're in. All the problems Iran had, they had riots a few months ago and these were economic riots. All the problems that Iran had before the start of this conflict are still in place and most of them are worse.
1:07:36And now they have half the missiles, none of the factories and no Navy. Yeah, so we've done something, guys. We don't have a resolution yet. It all doesn't happen overnight. It's not a forever war. We're exerting maximum leverage. I think everything's gonna be fine. Don't be a panic in. I think I might've set the record for most words ever said in a Rubin Report episode today. I thank you guys for watching. Guys, we can't do a post-game show today. I have to get to some, I have to get to freaking Midtown by one o 'clock. I have to be there. I have to be there. I apologize. I'll make it up to you guys on Locals.
1:08:10Thanks for watching. See you tomorrow. Ciao.
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks about Jimmy Kimmel shocking his audience by doubling down on his sick joke about Melania Trump being an expectant widow even after the latest assassination attempt on Donald Trump; Bill O'Reilly explaining to NewsNation why Jimmy Kimmel's jokes have now crossed a line into trafficking in hate and why ABC affiliated stations need to draw a line and refuse to air "Jimmy Kimmel Live!"; Dan Bongino ripping into Hakeem Jeffries on Sean Hannity's show for his hollow calls for civility after the third assassination attempt on Donald Trump; FBI Director Kash Patel giving a scorching response to Tim Walz trying to take credit for the FBI raids on the daycare centers exposed by Nick Shirley as a part of the massive organized fraud in the Somali community in Minnesota; Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson admitting on camera to committing workplace discrimination and unknowingly violating employment law; Elon Musk's chilling warning about violent crime after the murder of bodega owner Abdul Saleh; and much more.
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