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23:35Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin asked Nick Shirley a little bit about the foreign money that is flowing in and mostly out of America in these fraud schemes. I mean,$700 million in cash flowing out of Minneapolis airport back to countries in Africa. Have either of you, gentlemen, kind of investigated the foreign sourcing or an organization of a lot of this fraud? I mean, we're opening up to foreign governments to fund their own operations. Well, yeah, it's been proven that a lot of the money in suitcases that left Minnesota went back into the hands of people inside Somalia. And, for instance, in New York City, where I just did an expose exposing this adult daycare fraud, nobody at these daycares actually knows who the owner is.

24:21A lot of them have just been hired within the past month. In Miami, you have the Cuban government running these DME companies that are fleecing and quite literally looting from Medicaid. A lot of foreign governments have infiltrated our Medicaid because it's so simple and so easy to defraud. By the way, we know it's$700 million because government watched it go out. They let it go. They didn't even put the IRS on the case. It's truly remarkable what we're allowing to happen. So, yeah, we are allowing this to happen, and you would think more people would be outraged. Like, do you want one of your dollars that you earn going to Somalia for some reason?

25:04Let's say you wanted it to go to Somalia. Let's say you really wanted your money to go to Somalia. You can send it to Somalia. For example, I never told this to the guys before, but I take$10 out of their check each week and I send it to a Somali daycare center. That's what I do. That's my way of giving back. I don't take it out of my own check, I take it out of theirs. but you could do it yourself. But instead they're stealing it from the American people and then they are sending it to Somalia and we know it and we're not doing anything about it. You might wanna also go back and maybe we can put the link in the description to my interview from about four months ago with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is, she was born in Somalia.

25:43And she talks about some of the cultural, some of the cultural attachments that the Somali culture has when it comes to, if you come to a place and you can take advantage of the system, you should do it. Like that's actually something that is taught in Somali culture. Don't take my word for it. Watch my interview with Ayan Hirsi Ali, who is a hero of Western values and has abandoned, obviously, that type of thinking. But of course, it's not just that. It's happening, it's happening, it's not just happening in Minnesota. It's happening in New York. It's happening all over the place. Here's Nick.

26:19He's making the rounds this week on with Laura Ingram, talking a little bit about what's going on in New York City. So in Flushing, Queens, in this area, you have these adult daycares. They're like playdate centers for seniors. Yeah, so they don't want to be alone in their house, and they're picked up at their home and taken to this center. Exactly, and we pay for it. And then right around them, they have all these pharmacies set up. They have all these durable medical equipment companies set up. And it's just like this big racket where they start billing all these people with these medical beneficiary numbers from these seniors, from these adult daycares, and because they make so much money from Medicaid, they're then able to give kickbacks to the seniors.

26:56So you have these Korean and Chinese mafias, quite literally, looting the government from Medicaid and then giving the kickbacks to the seniors. So wait, the old people get money themselves? Well, they make so much money, these pharmacies and these adult daycares, that they then have a little referral program set up for these seniors. So it's like, bring in a friend, we'll give you$100. Thank you for coming. Here's your$25. That's good money. What can be done to put an end to this? Because this seems like the biggest entrepreneurial activity of certain immigrant classes. Now, I mean, this is a big business for the immigrant community.

27:30Yeah, it's for entrepreneurship. For entrepreneurship. Her question is the right one. What can be done? Now, I'd say respectfully, I don't mean this as a knock. Like, she's asking it's the wrong guy. He doesn't know what can be done. Right. This is now for responsible people to look into and figure out. I would hope that the DOJ is looking into this. You could probably get, I don't know, if the CIA has to be looking into it or other, I don't know exactly what, well, it's, I guess, mostly the DOJ, but like, we gotta get people, enough, enough, we know this is happening. We are letting it happen.

27:59It's enough. And then if you wanna see how the lies around this get laundered, this is wild. We've had Ashley Rinsberg on the show several times, who's an excellent actual journalist. He put this out on X yesterday. This is one hell of a correction by NPR. And listen to this, they just posted a correction on a piece they put up on December 31st, 2025. And listen to this, an earlier version of this story incorrectly said Nick Shirley and his colleagues claimed to have uncovered$110 ,000 in fraud. In fact, it was 110 million, million, million, 100, it was 110 ,000. You know what, we could probably look past that.

28:36110 million, bit much. So great work over there, NPR. We'll have more on NPR in just a second, but back to Nick Shirley for a second. He put this up on the Twitter machine. Remember when instead of investigating the fraud, the mainstream media decided to investigate the person who exposed the fraud? Why? Because they were complicit in the coverup. I was right, they were wrong. I work for you, they work against you. The media is full of leers, and what he means there, he means liars, but of course he's saying the quality leering center. And yeah, why, it just, it's extraordinary to me. And you see this, we've shown you other videos where he's wandering around New York City and people start screaming at him and calling him a white supremacist.

29:16All he's done is expose fraud, which is stealing money from you. And by you, I mean me, all of us. And whether that money was going to Somalia or anywhere else, they shouldn't be the government and these NGOs should not be laundering money in illegal and illicit ways, not telling anyone about it, getting caught and then continuing to do it. But let's continue with NPR for just a second. And they had Bill Maher on the other day. He went on with this guy, Steve Innskeep. And Bill, again, who is still a liberal, a lefty, whatever you want to call him, despite all the good stuff about him, right? I'm not giving you shit here, Bill.

29:56He, Bill, is surprised that he was even welcome to go on NPR. Your audience is going to love this, by the way. The audience is a little more diverse than you might think. Really? Sure, some people - I mean, I'm surprised you even had me on. because I just think of this place as so different than what it used to be. And what I always want people to do, but it's so hard to get people to do these days, is just engage with the argument. You can hate me, whatever, for whatever your reasons. I'm too old. Whatever I am, are you engaging with the argument? Tell me if I'm wrong about something, and then we're going to be cool.

30:37But that's not what either extreme does in this country anymore. And maybe I'm wrong, but I think of this place as like on the far extreme of the left. But I could be wrong. Maybe there's a little more variety in who we talk to than you might have been told. Who you talk to is different than like what people believe. Right. Well, first off, Bill's not wrong there at all. and I would congratulate NPR for putting far-right maniac Bill Maher on. Holy cow, you did it. That's so worthy of praise. But everything that NPR puts out there is from a lefty lens. Even the way they talk. I can't even do it.

31:18The way they talk on NPR with that low talk like this, we're all a time-by-time robots. Can we get some kind of NPR audio for a second that we can play? I don't even understand how they do it. But of course, it's all crazy lefty stuff. And also you might ask that in 2026 with the advent of the internet, and I don't know if you guys have one of these things, it's a phone, I keep it in my pocket sometimes, podcasts, streaming audio and video, et cetera, et cetera. The idea that a dime goes into publicly funded radio is completely insane or publicly funded television. No, there's a million other ways you can get educational things, you can get nonpartisan things, nonprofits can do things.

31:58Why are they taking tax dollars? And I know it's not all tax dollars that you can donate money to NPR, you get a tote bag and all those things. Like you can do all that. Believe it or not, I did a fundraiser for NPR, like one of those teledrives that they do. It was one of the first TV gigs I ever had when I was a lefty back in New York City. This has gotta be 2010 and I was at Caroline's Comedy Club and it was like, if you donate$100 to NPR, we'll give you this tote bag. People really want the tote bag or you get an umbrella. Can we get something on how they talk? We'll get that in a second. All right, let's talk about Angel Studios for a minute, and then we'll catch up on the on again, off again, hot, cold, wet, dry, up, down, left, right, loose, tight, war in Iran.

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33:19All right, we're working on getting some audio from NPR, but you know what I'm talking about, that fake way that they speak with that strange affect and they're trying to brainwash you while we're talking. So they're trying to grab that, but let's get caught up on Iran. The hot part of the war is back on the MOU, Memorandum of Understanding, the JD tried to push through. It was a very rickety 20-ish days, barely, and it did not work. The Iranians, as Trump said, they are scum, and you know what scum is? Scum is pretty scummy. And they're not being honest. As Trump pointed out in a clip we showed yesterday, they agree to things in the meetings and then they completely renege.

33:56Now you might say, Dave, why do you believe Trump? Well, I'm going to believe Trump more than I'm gonna believe the Iranians. And if they want this to end, it seems to me they can get it to end by just allowing ships to go through. Here is Jesse Waters talking about the airstrikes that we are now launching in response to them firing at some ships and that the blockade is now back in effect. Fox News alert, Trump's giving Iran the big squeeze. For the first time in the war, were launching airstrikes while the blockade's in full effect. Plus, sanctions are slapped back. Last night, 47 gave the gay ayatollah seven straight hours of bitch slaps.

34:32U.S. precision missiles fired from fighter jets, drones, and warships hit dozens of Iranian launch sites, mosquito fleets, and defense systems near the strait. And this morning, Iran woke up to more bombs, over an hour a-pounding, hitting cruise missile storage and missile sites near an island base. We're not stopping. Our forces are bombing Iran for the second time today. While the blockade stops anyone without a permission slip, a Curacao flag tanker headed for Karg Island. That's the first ship disabled since we started back up. Long story short of that, we're attacking again, right? And why are we attacking again?

35:12Because they were firing on ships. And as I brought up a few days ago, you might say, how do they even have the capabilities to fire on ships? because they have been in that they have been so decimated. You can still do things fairly easily with drones. The Stradiform was just pretty big and long. Like it could be random people with over the shoulder fire. Like there's all sorts of things. But this is now interesting because here's Trump really going all in on, yeah, we're gonna take these guys out, which again, is it just his end of civilization ploy or is it that he has just finally hit the end of the road with these people, take a look.

35:50JD Vance:Does that mean that you might wipe them out like you did ISIS? Yeah, it does. We will see what's happening. We received a call just as it was coming here. They want to meet. They always want to meet. But you know, this should have been done by other presidents for many years, for 47 years, but really a lot longer than that, and it wasn't. And I never understood why, but now I do. Because if you're not going to do it the way I'm doing it, you're never going to make a deal with them. They were very difficult. They're good negotiators. They were tapping everybody along for 47 years. Then Obama came in, and he just offered them a fortune of money.

36:27He paid them off. $1.7 billion in green cash and hundreds of billions of dollars. And that really set everyone else back because they started wanting to make nuclear weapons. And then we hit them a year ago, just about a year ago, with the B-2 bombers, and that ended that. So we got a little bit lucky. Our timing was a little bit lucky. You know, it's interesting what he says there, that none of them, you know, they always said they were gonna do it. He says that all the time, but none of them were gonna do it my way. You know, that does give a little insight into perhaps why did so many presidents for decades say we were never gonna let them get a nuke and all of these things and nobody did it.

37:08Well, it's a little bit of political posturing, right? You're running for office and you're gonna say, well, we're not gonna let those bad guys over there do that. That's like one version of it. But the other version of it is, I believe it's quite possible that some of these guys got into office, say, Obama, as Trump pointed out, kind of wanted them to have Obama, and he gave them a bunch of cash. But let's say some other presidents, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, maybe even Biden, or whoever was in charge, that they got in and they were starting to look at the Iran situation. And they were like, boy, this is going to be much more of a headache than we think.

37:38Like, we say we don't want them to have it. But what do we do? What do we do? Don't. What did Joe Biden say? Don't. What did Kamala Harris say? I don't, but these guys don't negotiate with that way. It's hard for us to realize there are people that are part of an apocalyptic regime. There are people that want the 72 virgins in heaven. There are people that want the destruction of the West, that don't abide by our rules, that can sign a piece of paper and say, here's what we're gonna do, and then just walk away from it. And now I would say the bigger problem is if we don't finish this thing properly, you're going to see the bad guys scale.

38:12It's a little bit of what's happening in New York City. If Mamdami is not exposed as the complete commie jihadist that he is, you're gonna see it scale. And it is scaling a little bit, but listen to this as it pertains to Iran and scaling. Houthi rebels are preparing to shut the Bab el-Mandeep Strait on behalf of Iran. A source told the Telegraph of a deliberate Iranian attempt to control the other side of the Red Sea and create a scenario similar to its grip on the Strait of Hormuz. So they may be realizing this is kind of all they got left. They got some leverage at the Strait of Hormuz. They can now go for this other situation over there.

38:47I can't tell you I'm fully familiar with that strait or what goes through it, but you can see they're figuring out what their leverage points are. So if we don't clean up what's happening at the Strait of Hormuz, it just is what it is, whether you wanna be in the war or not. Do you now wanna concede shipping routes to Iran, let them charge taxes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I thought this was quite a great clip from CNN. And yes, of course, it involves Scott Jennings former Trump DHS chief Miles Taylor, I don't know how this guy worked in the Trump administration, this is very weird, is now on CNN and apparently anti-Trump, talking about how Trump keeps shifting the goalposts.

39:27And watch, once again, we've shown you a couple of these types of clips lately, where if you just are smart enough, you can always flip something on dishonest people and they basically will either backtrack or you can expose them really easily. Scott Jennings does a bang-up job right here. Go ahead.

39:50Donald Trump doesn't know how to play chess. And our allies tonight even told me in meetings that because Donald Trump kept shifting his objectives. Who was it? Because Donald Trump, well, I'll tell you when the president tells us who he's negotiating with. So you don't, so when the president keeps moving our objectives. Have you had high-level conversations with other countries tonight? I talk to people from the region all the time, Scott. or with the governments? Scott, here's the point. Here's the point. The people in that region who are our allies have been very - Did you get what he just did right there?

40:19The guy said, our allies told me. So then Scott was like, who? And then it's very quickly changed to people from the region. Well, there's people from the region that think all sorts of things. Are you talking to our allies out? You're a former Trump administration official. Are you talking to our allies about policy while you're not part of the administration. That would be rather interesting. But it's just, this is the exact same thing like that lady asking Anna Navarro, can you name some of the women who have been killed by illegal immigrants? And she's like, yeah, I can. She's like, okay, name some.

40:50Oh, we've done this too many times. I don't have to name any of them. Here's another one, Abby Phillip. Again, she's just so dim-witted. You can see she doesn't believe anything she's gonna say. Here she's trying to imply that the regime is just as strong as it's always been. Sure, Ayatollah's dead. All the guys are gone. The military's gone. Air Force is gone. Navy's under the sea. They're randomly firing stuff. And she doesn't even believe what she's saying is the funny part. And here is Scott and this guy Joe Borelli, who we've shown you before, calling her out. At this moment, there's no indication that the regime has been weakened or that they have changed.

41:21You don't think Iran's been weakened? Okay. All of the reporting out there from within the administration is that they recognize that the regime has not, they have not shifted away from the Islamic regime. Of course not. They're religious fanatics. They personally never changed. But to say they haven't been weakened, I think, is not true. I mean, listen, I'm talking about how much control do they have over their own country. And I'm not saying that people weren't killed. Hold on a second. I'm not saying that people weren't killed in the regime. I'm just saying, are they in less control? And the answer is no.

42:00You don't have to put up a cardboard cutout and an AI image of the Supreme Leader

42:04JD Vance:if you're not trying desperately to keep up the illusion that the regime is still solidly in control. Guys, again, you can tell she doesn't really know what she's saying. It's like, does she really believe it? Is someone in her ear saying it? But regardless of where you think this war is at right now, the idea that the regime isn't weaker, could you, yeah, that's the Ayatollah in a box. I'm gonna guess that they're a little weaker without the Ayatollah. And now they have his son, who apparently is gay and missing a leg. He's a great time at a party. Like, it's so insane. It's so insane. The military leadership is gone.

42:46The Navy is gone. We know all these things. So the argument that, you can say, boy, they turned out to be a little bit stronger. They had a little more wherewithal than we thought, right? They're holding onto the straight in a little more of an effective way. Those would all be logical things you could say, Abby. But this idea that they're not weaker is just completely absurd. But we will put a pin in that. Do we have a clip of how they speak over on NPR? I think we got something. Did we get a little something? Yeah, let's throw to that. Support for this podcast and the following message come from Allianz Travel Insurance.

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44:28That's 866-685-6604. Or visit tnusa.com slash Dave. All right, rubinreport.locals.com. Community Q &A, if you want to get something in on the fly, we'll see what we can do for you. Trying Daily says, I see you commenting on different channels frequently on the news of the day. How far in advance do you book those appearances? You know, it usually depends. So I usually, every week I try to do, you know, maybe two Fox hits. I jump on Newsmax once or twice. Here, that's one of those is, that was Fox Business the other night. The other one is with Ed Henry over on Newsmax. Then I jump on some other podcasts or we try to mix it up.

45:09Like every week, obviously I do the five day a week show in here for an hour. I do one or two interviews a week on top of that. And then a certain amount of appearances. This month, it's actually been a little bit less because obviously because we're prepping for August and we have so much content coming out and I'm pre-taping a whole bunch of extra interviews. We're doing throwback videos, we're doing reaction stuff, we're doing some lifestyle stuff. Like we got a whole bunch of stuff. So I just, I don't have as much time to do those hits. But I think there were, you know, we like to put them on the channel, it's extra content, but it's also just worthy of, it's good for me to be seen in some of these other places and everything else.

45:42And I enjoy, usually I enjoy doing it for the most part. Like every now and again, I'm just like, I don't feel like doing that. You know, when I was on the West Coast, because of the time shift, I used to do late night Fox shows more, but now to do the eight, you know, they asked me to do Hannity a lot or even Jesse Waters, which I do them sometimes and I like those guys. But to do those later shows, especially with the kids, I like reading them stories at night and putting them down. I'm just less interested at this moment in my life of doing those later things, but every now and again I do them.

46:13And I think I'm doing, aren't I doing Hannity's podcast next week? Am I heading up to, yeah, I think I'm heading up to West Palm and doing Hannity's podcast. But yeah, we just, we kind of pace them out. Christy gets the requests from all these guys and she sends them to me and I take a look. And I usually, you know, if we get, say, 10 requests a week, six this week, four this week, eight next week, you never know. Lil Fella says, are the movies finished? You know, it's so interesting. I mentioned a couple of days ago that I am actually going to see The Odyssey this weekend. It's David's birthday and he really wants to go see it.

46:47And he loves Christopher Nolan. And I've mentioned how much I'm a huge admirer of his work. like the Batman trilogy and Interstellar and Inception I thought was great. And he did Tenet, which I didn't particularly like. David liked it, I didn't do that. That was one of his ones that I don't think did that well. So they bagged on the sequel, right? I don't think they're doing a second one. And he did Oppenheimer, which I also didn't, I didn't love, but it was a good film, obviously. So anyway, I'm gonna give the Odyssey a shot. Even though we've talked a little bit about the wokeness stuff around it, I don't wanna be one of those people that just is like, Like before I've seen anything, I'm crapping all over it.

47:22I'm outraged or whatever. Like, let me go see it and we'll see what happens. But yes, mostly movies are over. The only two movies, I've seen three movies in the movie theater since COVID, I think. I don't wanna brag here, but it was Downton Abbey 2, Downton Abbey 3, and just a couple of weeks ago, it was that sci-fi movie that I didn't love, Project Hail Mary, but that was it. And we have a pretty cool movie theater in the house, like nice big screen with movie style chairs and sometimes I have the guys come over and watch movies and whatever. So that's obviously very nice. But it's a shame because, can you see if you can find it real quick, that meme of 1980s movies, how many movies were coming out every week?

48:10There's this great meme. And it's like in 1985 in the summer, like seven amazing movies came out of nowhere. where it was like back to the future in Indiana. You found it already? Yeah, all right, he's gonna grab it in one second. And going to the movies, like that's what you did. My parents basically every Saturday night of the 80s and 90s went to the movies, usually with their friends, sometimes with us. I remember seeing Spaceballs in the movie theater. I remember seeing, I think I saw, no, I totally remember, we're gonna get to Rocky in just a second. I totally remember seeing Rocky IV in the theater in 1985.

48:43Do we have the image? Yeah, oh, this is it. Yeah, you found it, great. So look at this, highest worldwide grossing movies for each year of the 80s. And just look at this, what was going on in the 80s. In 1980, Empire, nine to five, which is one of the most underrated comedies of all time, and stir crazy with Pryor and Gene Wilder. 81, Raiders of the Lost Ark, another 07, Superman II. 82, E.T., Rocky III, Tootsie was great, Dustin Hoffman. 83, Return of the Jedi, Flashdance, another Bond, Octopussy. I'll get to the one, the year that I think is best. So that's what they ask you. They put this image up and they go, what year?

49:20Indiana Jones and Temple of Doom, 84. Beverly Hills Cop and Ghostbusters. I mean, that's a great summer right there. 85, Back to the Future, Rambo, Rocky, 486. Top Gun, Crocodile Dundee, Aliens, Fatal Attraction, 87. Cop 2, Dirty Dancing, 88. Rain Man, Roger Rabbit, Coming to America. 89, Indiana Jones again, Last Crusade, Batman, and Back to the Future. If I had to pick a year there, it's 84 or 85. Temple of Doom is the best Indiana Jones movie. That opening scene is just phenomenal. Beverly Hills Cop, peak Eddie Murphy, and Ghostbusters is perfect. Or 85, Back to the Future, absolutely one of the best movies of all time.

49:58That's the original Rambo, right? Is that what it says? Does it say First Blood there? Yeah, that's the original Rambo. Yeah, that's pretty damn perfect. And Rocky IV. 85 is probably the best of all of that. But anyway, the point of showing you that is that we used to just have, It was just like, that's what we did. And it was a great equalizer. And everyone was at the movie theater. And it was a wonderful experience and we don't really have that anymore. But that being said, we wanted to figure out a way to get this into the show anyway. And then we saw your question. I don't know if you guys saw this yesterday.

50:26If you can bear with us for about a minute and a half, it's really worth watching. The I Play Rocky trailer came out and it is the story of how Sylvester Stallone got Rocky made. They didn't want him in it. He wrote it himself. He was broke. And I thought we'd play the trailer because it just looks great. And I will go see this in the theater. Name? I'm Mike. Acting's what I live and breathe for. And I gotta have faith in myself. You need to show everyone who you are. I like this girl, Sylvester. Sylvester? That's right, his real name. It's got a nice ring to it, Sylvester Stallone. It's like Peter Parker.

51:13Are you delusional? You don't got the looks to be a movie star. Not to mention, you talk like you got rocks in your mouth. Yeah, I know I don't look like Einstein, but I got a brain. The only way we get to show people is me not to write a script for myself. Yeah, so do that. Write a script. And give yourself the best part.

51:41There's something big here. You wrote this in three and a half days. This is freaking good. Touch someone like Chuck Bronson, or we could do Eastwood. Guys, I play Rocky. I have no idea what that means. So the writer wants to be in it. As the lead. No, absolutely not. Throw some money at him. 25k. No. Raise the offer. Try 75. You fucking cause, for Christ's sake. Sylvester no 175 go to 200 no I'm not getting this up not for a million bucks not for 10.

52:21JD Vance:hey all right now if you do this comes with some strengths if you ever fall one day behind schedule the meat's frozen solid they're gonna kick it to the curb you broke your hand and they can replace you with a real actor how do i even know what i'm doing is any good just do the best acting in your life and everything will be fine.

52:45How far behind schedule are they? They're not.

52:52This movie is about having to believe in yourself. It's about going the distance. I put my heart and soul on the page. If I'm not willing to live up to what I wrote, then what's the point? So do you believe in me? Or not?

53:17I mean, anyone else get chills? Like, I love that. Like, I wrote this thing, if I'm not willing to live up to its ideals, and that's the true story of how he ended up being in the movie and everything else, and that looks awesome. So I will see that in the theater. And as long as I mentioned this, can you throw the picture up for one sec? I met Stallone once, I think I mentioned this on the show. This was at Dr. Oz's house back in January of last year. There was a little get together with me and Tony Robbins and Jordan Peterson and Russell Brand and just a great crew. And I've met so many people.

53:51I've met the president. I've met just all these people. And I never get nervous or anything or just like I'm like star, not even nervous, star struck. And Stallone walks in and he goes up to everybody and he shakes everybody's hand and I shake his hand. And he's been through a lot. You can almost feel the cartilage in his hand. There he is right in the middle over there. Oh yeah, I'm right behind him now. And Bobby Kennedy was there. It was just a great afternoon talking about, the whole purpose of the little get together was talking about how Maha could do great things in the administration. It was after Trump had won, but before he had taken office and we all just sort of shared some thoughts and things.

54:28It was a really wonderful day. But in any event, we were talking about Maha And then I told this story about how in Rocky IV, it's a great parable metaphor for that because Drago is all on drugs and he's the bad guy. And what does Rocky do? He's going to the fight in Moscow on Christmas day and he's working out just hardcore old school. And it was just really cool meeting him. See, I can still get starstruck a little bit. Like that's a cool one. Chipster says, why do journalists never push back when interviewees avoid answering the question and asked and deflected. You know, it's a good question.

55:06And look, I can tell you as an interviewer, I can tell you what I do and then I'll try to answer the question in a more amorphous way to everybody. But for me, what I'm always trying to do as an interviewer is not, I usually don't try to bludgeon my guest into anything, but what I like to do is give them enough rope. And usually I find if someone doesn't really know what they're talking about or if they're lying, you can kind of see them wrapping their neck, their neck with the rope. You can see them hanging themselves. Now, occasionally people will say things that I feel like you should push back more and I try.

55:39You know, if you watch my two interviews with Ro, particularly, I think it was the first one, Ro Khanna, you could see like, I really didn't believe what he was saying and I didn't think he was applying it to his own life and it didn't really make sense. I had a great moment with Bobby Kennedy the first time I interviewed him when I was asking him about affirmative action and he started talking about historic racism and I said, but why would you wanna to solve historic racism with racism of the day. And you could really see that he was listening and I bet you he is not really for affirmative action anymore.

56:09And I'm not saying that was solely because of me, obviously, but like you could see him working through something. I think the answer in a lot of the cases though is that it becomes an insider's club. Like let's say you get the interview with the president, you get the interview with some big celebrity, whatever it is. if you go at them too hard, not only are you never gonna get to interview them again because they won't wanna come back, but then the PR agents and everybody else is gonna say, well, you see that guy, that guy's a real ball buster. So my hero in interviewing growing up was Larry King, who of course later became a friend and a mentor to me.

56:43And I always loved the fact that every night on CNN, on any given night, he could have, he would literally have like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird on one night. Then he'd have the animal guy on the next night. Then he'd have Bishop Desmond Tutu. then he would have, you know, like a stripper and then the next night he would have Tom Hanks. And I just thought that was great. And he let them talk and you learn a little bit about these people. Now, are they gonna run roughshod over you sometimes if you're too much of a softball interviewer? For sure, but I do think most of it has to do with access.

57:14If you are a relentlessly hard interviewer, people won't come back. So you have to figure out a way to do it effectively. And then I would also say that all these people start becoming friends. It's why I am way less interested in interviewing politicians than I used to be because you sort of, you start feeling like you're friendly with these people. And you're probably not really. Like I am friendly with some of them. Like Tulsi has become an actual friend of mine. But like most of them, once you sort of think you're friends with them, would you take it easy on them? Like it's really, it's multi-layered and it's, and by the way, a certain amount of it is these people are just completely unprepared.

57:56These are not great interviewers. They don't know what they're talking about. People can lie and they don't even realize it. So there's several factors there. BackupNever says, if you could visit a place anywhere in the world that you've never been, where would you go? Well, 100 % it's Japan. And Phoenix is going to Japan this August. Everyone's going to cool places. I remember like 1984, seeing the back of a Nintendo cartridge made in Japan. And I was like, I have to go to Japan. And the one part of the world that I've really never been to is Asia. I've never done Japan, I've never done Thailand, I've never done China or any of that.

58:30I really would love to go. We're potentially working on a trip for next year for that part of the world for the team, but I would love to take a vacation there as well. And I love sushi and of course I wanna go to Okinawa and see the village where Mr. Miyagi was from. Although if you watched Cobra Kai, sadly, Okinawa has turned into a much, a real commercial zone with a lot of chain stores and things like that. Nothing stays forever, but I would like to go. That would be nice. And so we will see about that. But yeah, Asia is the one part that I haven't been to. Jeff says, will there be a new book?

59:05Saw that the names of your previous tours have been Don't Burn This World, and that sounds like a good title for the third. Yeah, so the title for the third book is definitely Don't Burn This World. I have the outline written of 12 chapters and I have the first chapter written. And again, I'm just so damn busy and it's good. I don't mean damn busy. I am so busy and I'm thankful that I'm busy that I haven't had the time to fully do it. And I've also, even though you want a book to be somewhat evergreen and not dependent on an election, I really do think that this upcoming midterm is so pivotal that I sort of feel like I don't even wanna do it because it's a trilogy in some sense.

59:44Like, Don't Burn This Book was defending my classically liberal positions, which basically have become conservative positions, right? And Don't Burn This World was really about, okay, the woke thing's not going anywhere. What can you do to flourish in this dystopia, like moving, like creating your own businesses, getting your kids out of schools, things like that. That was more of a how-to. And the third book is, damn, well, it's something like, well, shit, we didn't solve anything, and what are you gonna do as this world potentially is burning? So I do wanna see what happens with the midterms on that.

1:00:15There is a chance that as I'm sitting on the beach in for some portion of August, that I'll take a notebook and a pen and just scribble it out. When I wrote Don't Burn This Book, for the first draft of the book, basically was three days on the beach with my notebook, just scribbling like a crazy person, and then trying to transcribe it after it was crazy and everything else. So it's sort of a matter of just what can come out of me at what time. Ozzy Mom says, thank you for having me. Brian Dean Wright on your show from The Wright Report. I feel heard. Yeah, I know you've been asking for him for a while.

1:00:49We do pay attention in locals. He's great. You know, he's a former CIA guy. I've had him on a couple times over the years. He offers some really interesting insight, I think particularly on foreign affairs and how some things work on the back end. And he's a great guy. We will definitely have him. And of course, Larry Elder is always welcome back. Brian says, Dave, what was your favorite treat as a child? And do you still enjoy it today? Well, first, before I get into my favorite treat, the kids are really into Jell-O right now. Like a Jell-O packet or a little plastic cup of Jell-O. I don't know how they got into my house.

1:01:25Nona, was that you? I'm not sure what happened. But some Jell-O cups got into my house and these kids are, and they don't even eat them really. It's just, you push it out, you smush it, you throw it at the dog. I'll get some for you guys for lunch today. It's pretty great. But mine, if I really think what was my favorite like real treat when I was a kid, this is gonna age me a little bit because I can't even imagine they're making these things anymore, but I asked Connor to Google it. The moon pie, and none of these guys have even heard of the moon pie. The moon pie, so you got marshmallow in there and then it was a soft, soft cookie.

1:01:57So try to imagine that, not like a s'mores where you're putting a marshmallow on a graham cracker with crunch. It was a soft cookie dipped in chocolate. Do they still make them? They gotta make them still, right? The moon pie, you can get the moon pie? We're gonna order some moon pies. I'm gonna eat a moon pie on the show next week. That would be my, haven't had sugar in 17 years. It would be nice. That's it. Anything else, guys?

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