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26:08We do hours. We do hours on air. You guys. What do you guys do about soybean farming? Soybean farmers? Whoopi's crying for soybean? She doesn't even know where the soybean farmers live. Which, by the way, Trump just signed a major deal with China related to soybean. But putting that aside, the fact that she's reading all of that really in such an obvious manner, you know, she usually fakes it a little bit better or maybe the prompter is a little bit better, but that she's looking she's pretending to be outraged, but she has to look down and read to figure out what she's outraged about. Isn't that a perfect summation for what television has become?

26:41It's also why they won't have actual guests to debate actual issues on that program, because they don't actually do the work. And to me, that was you mentioned that debate between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis. What really stood out to me was the degree to which Gavin Newsom is protected by media such that he's not prepared when anybody pushes back against him. And I do think that's part of why legacy media and also the Democrat Party, which is upheld by legacy media, has been losing so much in the marketplace of ideas because their arguments are flabby and don't require very much pushback to defeat.

27:25They're like a boxer that doesn't actually ever get in the ring and spar. And then suddenly when you take a punch, you don't know how to handle it. And so the result is you're trying to protect your side from having its opinion challenged. There's a lot of people out there who could agree or disagree with everything that we argue. I think we could probably on this program all argue the other side better because we've done the research and we've spent the time on the issues. There's almost no one on the left who could argue our side because they're not even familiar with that argument. Yeah, that's a great point.

27:56And we'll have more on that that concept in just a second about how they really are a bunch of boxers who never spar and never get a competitor that's worthy. but Buck I mean also there's there's a general take from that show and the way they do everything that they just don't know what they're saying they they don't know it's not that the politicians don't know they can like their politicians don't know that's one thing but also they don't know that's like a lot yeah well Dave to be fair low IQ people need their pundits too right I mean You look at the show, and if you're going to be – or low information, I guess we could say low information voters want to be a little more charitable.

28:37But those things, I think in this case, are pretty synonymous. The view is meant to be an emotional safe space for people who have feelings about politics but don't actually spend the time to know anything about any of the issues. And to the point about not being able to make the case, the people on the view can't make the case. Right. And I think that the only authenticity that they can offer that audience is the shared ignorance that they all have. So while they're paid millions of dollars to know something, at least they make the people who aren't doing that at home feel good because, wow, Whoopi and Joy and the other chicks at that table.

29:14I don't know who they are. Oh, wait, who's the really mean one? Oh, Sonny Hoskins. Sonny Hoskins. Thank you. Yeah. By the way, how about the fact that we all know when he says the mean one? We're all like, oh, yeah, she's so bitter. well she's the most i mean she is just the classic like most bitter and by the way elissa farr griffin is the pretty one she's the pet republican they give her a cookie on a friday she's she's uh she's not so bad the other thing i think that's that's here too buck and you know is they have huge staffs so it's a willful ignorance you know it's not just that they won't do the work it's that they won't let the staff do the work for them right actually inform i think that's a great point because that's what I mean by when Whoopi's looking down.

29:54Imagine the three of us. We're on air hours a day. Imagine having to fake your emotion because you have to read what you're angry about. That's the, it's just beyond the pale. But let's jump over to something else in legacy media because there's basically one guy in legacy media who's fighting the good fight. You already know who I'm talking about. It's Scott Jennings over at CNN. And here he is getting into it with another panelist about this Biden cognitive issue. And he was, I think we all acknowledge and the reporting is very clear. in severe cognitive decline. And so the committee had... I don't agree with that.

30:24The committee... You don't agree he was in cognitive decline? I do not, because there's no medical evidence to say that. Now, that's a political talking point for some of you on the right, but there's no evidence to point to that. Dr. Scott. Do you know... Dr. Scott, do you have evidence to point to that? Do you know why the president's physician took the Fifth Amendment before the committee? No, the same reason why Republicans have taken the Fifth Amendment under oath for the committee. If you're here to argue the sharpness of Joe Biden, I commend you on your effort. I'm not here to argue that.

30:51I'm just saying there's no medical evidence to point there was some cognitive decline. Do you have eyes and ears? I think you do. I do. Okay. The same eyes and ears that saw that this president prevented a government shutdown during his time. We talked about the bipartisan legislative agenda that he put together. So I do have eyes and ears, and you do too. Buck, the apparent evidence that cognitive decline was not part of Biden's melting brain is that he prevented a government shutdown. Help me work through that one. I got to say, I love that the Democrats shoved Biden out the window, essentially, in the White House, like just threw him on to the South Lawn and said, you're not president or you're not the nominee anymore.

31:32And we're still having this debate. I mean, this is, it's a little bit like when Democrats do that thing, because Clay and I will talk sometimes about the sports stuff, including 200 pound man with like, you know, more robust beard than I, or than any three of us, quite honestly, we're all kind of like the, the, the little beard category. and we'll be throwing around a bunch of girls on the field hockey field and they'll be saying, what are you, a biologist? It's like, no, but I know what a 200-pound dude looks like. I don't think I have to be a biologist, but they'll actually use that as a talking point.

32:07The same thing here. There's no medical evidence of the fact the Democrat Party defenestrated a sitting president from his campaign two or three, whatever, three months before the election because his brain was scrambled eggs. I think that's all the evidence a normal person would need. Scott Jennings, very patient there. Clay, I know you like a good conspiracy theory. How about this one? Maybe the people of CNN are actually on our side and that's why they put these dingbats on with Scott. I mean, I was rolling my eyes watching that. I legitimately wonder who the audience is that is consuming this content.

32:47There's tons of actual medical evidence, by the way. I mean, I thought Scott Jennings could have pushed back. Like, we don't have to be doctors to think that something could be wrong on an evidentiary basis. If your grandpa suddenly can't remember your name, that's evidence that he might have a dementia-related issue. You're not a doctor, but you can see that. Anybody who watched the June 27th debate—and oh, by the way, we talked about this on the program the other day because I thought it was a good question for Corrine Jean-Pierre as part of her disastrous book tour. Has she ever apologized to Robert Hur?

33:22Robert Hur sat across from Joe Biden for hours quizzing him on the classified documents that he got. The only reason he said there was not going to be a prosecution was because based on his observation, a jury would find Biden to be old, befuddled, and incapable of committing a crime because his brain didn't work well enough. That's all evidence. One of my favorite analogies quickly is circumstantial evidence. People say, oh, circumstantial evidence is awful. It's actually oftentimes some of the most important. You go to bed at night and when you went to bed, there was no snow on the ground and you wake up and there's snow on the ground.

33:59The fact that it snowed overnight is circumstantial, right? Because you didn't see it yourself, but it's pretty strong evidence that the snow came down, right? And so there was tons of circumstantial medical evidence that Biden was incapable, to Buck's point, Democrats kicked him out of the nomination because of it. People watch too much Law & Order. When the defense says, that's circumstantial, whatever. Yeah, a lot of people are in prison for life because of circumstantial evidence, everybody. Right. Yeah. Exactly. It could actually be really the most perfect evidence, especially when you add it all up together and look at it in totality.

34:32What's the reverse of circumstantial evidence? What's hardcore evidence? Eyewitness. Eyewitness. All right. Eyewitness. Well, I'm going to throw to a balance of nature ad, and then we're going to have some eyewitness evidence that the left does not know how to podcast. If you're looking for an easy way to get more fruits and vegetables into your day, Balance of Nature fruit and veggie supplements can make it simple. Each capsule contains the natural goodness of 16 whole fruits and 15 vegetables, all freeze-dried, lab-tested, and made without binders, fillers, or flow agents. It's 100 % whole food ingredients, just as nature intended.

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35:40And, you know, the left has owned everything in the mainstream media for so long. They've become soft on all of this stuff. And I'm always, really, and I'm sure you guys are too, and maybe you know some, I'm always trying to find kind of the equivalent of us on the left to have a debate with or go on the show with, you know, but we always end up with just the, kind of the worst of the worst. So there's this girl, and I know I'm giving her exactly what she wants right now by talking about her on the show. Her name is Jennifer Welch, and she is a lefty podcaster. Apparently, she was a reality TV person on a show called Sweet Home Interior Design, something like that.

36:14But she's now a lefty podcaster. And because it's so hard to find some of these people that are willing to engage, I want to just show you a little bit of what is going on on these shows. Because here she is going after all of our friend Riley Gaines, who has done nothing other than stand up for women and women's sports. One thing I want to say about Riley Gaines, as she sits there and has the moral high ground against AOC, when I look at people, if I were to say who's more Christ-like, I would pick AOC and the atheist Jew Bernie Sanders and the Muslim Zoran Mamdani a million times over you, Riley Gaines, because Riley Gaines, all you do is hate on people.

36:56You are wound up like a cheap clock over trans people. You show them no grace, no compassion. You defend billionaires. You cheer and celebrate when children are zip tied. And then you have the audacity to get on television and try to lecture people who fight for the people that are suffering, that stand and put their arms around people that need sanctuary. and you try to act like you're better than they are, you're an insufferable twat. Nobody likes you. Nobody likes you except for the other fake Christians that enjoy in their spare time watching children get zip tied and then sit there and justify it while they read the Bible with their hideous crucifixes around their necks.

37:49So you, Riley Gaines. Clay, like, that's what's going on in the lefty podcast space. Like, we cannot find better versions of that. I mean, and just all of the stuff she said about Riley is just so profoundly, profoundly absurd. Yeah, we talked about this on the show, Buck and I did, and we brought Riley on earlier this week before this one because AOC out of nowhere kind of came in like Simone Biles did and just attacked her. And I told Riley this. I mean, I would love to get attacked like this because what it represents is how effective she's been. And the reason she's been effective is one of their top arguments is I don't know why you care.

38:29Right. I don't know why you care. Uh, well, Riley cares because she had to swim against the dude tucking his cock and balls into a women's swimsuit and pretending that he was in fact a chick. And they gave him a women's NCAA championship at the swimming, uh, meet that she was in a couple of years ago. And look, I think that they are losing culturally, and so they go directly to nasty attacks. And I think these things get ended really rapidly. But everybody would say a 16-year-old playing 12-year-old Little League baseball shouldn't be able to do it. Because to Buck's point earlier, we can just see with our own eyes that somebody who is 12 is different than somebody who's 16.

39:10And somebody who's gone through puberty and dominating little kids shouldn't be able to compete. Well, a man shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports. And I don't think they have a good answer for it. And so now they're just going directly to derogatory personal attacks because Riley's story is so powerful. And I think it's a sign of the culture shifting in our wins. Buck, let me read Riley's response to that clip right there. She said, they say these things about me merely because I said men are not women. That's it. If you share that belief, they think the same thing about you. Such harsh words, praying for these women.

39:43What do you think about just sort of the general notion here of the lefty podcast space? Like, am I not giving the devil his due here? Is there a do you know of a rich tapestry of people that will engage with ideas and maybe offer us a bit more? We're going to show one more clip of Jennifer Welch. But is there am I missing something here? No. And this is the result of the ecosystem in the media that we all we all came up in. Right, Dave? I mean, you there. There was a time when there were like a handful of online written publications. There was Fox News, maybe a few jobs in talk radio or local radio.

40:22I mean, in the pre-podcast era. And you had all these left-wing outlets to the point where, I mean, you could get fired from HuffPo and get hired by the New Yorker and go from CNN to MSNBC to PBS to ABC. See, like they had all of this control of the media ecosystem and they were able to largely insulate themselves from the skill set that we're just talking about, which is understanding the issues and having to be or being able to make the argument for your side. So they kind of just got intellectually fat and lazy on all this stuff and they have not been sharpening their minds or their skill set.

41:03And so that's why when the internet opened up a bit and we got shows like yours and YouTube and Elon bought X, I mean, already Twitter was useful. But once X happened, you'll notice. Clay and I was joking about this. I never get piled on anymore. Like I never have some random CNN anchor who all of a sudden is getting like a million people agreeing with him saying how dumb I am. And, you know, that is a result entirely of the playing field not being tilted in their favor. So, you know, I think that we're going to see more and more of this. I would love it if there were left wing outlets that were worth going on.

41:41Like if Maddow wanted to have me on to actually have a discussion in primetime on MSNBC. But here's the other problem, Dave. The left and you know this and Clay knows this. The left has trained their audience that they should not even be subjected to the real argument from the other side, which is why the only people you see as conservatives on MSNBC. or the pretty one from The View are people who are fake Republicans who have turned on the Republican Party. Right, they're always anti-Trump conservatives so that they're basically just neutered pets. That's why I always say at the end of every week, they give Alyssa Farah a cookie and they say thank you and that was nice and cash your check and go.

42:21I want to play one other clip of her because to your point, it's like what happens then is they don't refine their ideas and then you end up with this type of hysteria. Charlie Kirkman? Yeah, him's horrible. horrible charlie kirk is horrible yes i'm glad he's not here you're glad he's dead yes why would you say something like that man he was horrible on the campuses the college campuses horrible person you know what i do the exact same thing would you be glad if i would die maybe so listen up democratic establishment you can either jump on board with this or we're coming after you in the same way that we come after MAGA.

43:00And that woman out in somewhere middle America saying, Charlie Kirk, he was a racist. He was a piece of s**t. There are so many more of us. Clay, I mean, to me, that's like the perfect encapsulation of everything we're fighting all the time. A radicalized, you know, woman that appears to be a grandma, probably, who literally is now wishing death. She's happy that Charlie died and then apparently happy if this other woman died. And then a podcaster who basically is like, yes, we need more of that energy. And that's to the backdrop of a friend of all of ours who is now dead. Look, they believe that we are evil and they believe that we are Nazis and that we are Hitler incarnate because they're morons.

43:45But because I think Buck hit on this and I think you would sign off on it too, they aren't exposed to the counter argument. They don't understand what we would argue in favor of or against. And this is where I'll give credit to the internet, which is always a little bit dangerous. I like that you were talking, Buck was talking about how all of the left protected itself. They had so many media organizations that would employ people. all of us had to initially make a living in some way on the internet and uh and i love that i always think about this analogy of it it's remember in the the batman movies when bane says you know i was born in the darkness uh and he's like explaining why batman can't you merely live in it now or whatever that's a great monologue right um i was born in it that's my main impression people love it.

44:37People just adopted the darkness. So I think the reason this is my big theory, this is in the new book. My big theory on a large scale of why the right is winning now is because the internet was a meritocracy and you had to fight in the muck and in the mud and you had to build attention for yourself instead of somebody saying, Hey, you get to be a columnist at the New York times now. And everybody just sees you and you're supposed to be brilliant. like we had to actually get messy and fight our way up one of my buddies says another part of the analogy is like you go to public school uh you uh you either go to jail or you end up you know having success in life because like and it's obviously an exaggeration but he's talking about like you're in the real muck you're not going to an elite private school he's like you go to an elite private school you'll make two hundred thousand dollars a year but you don't have the toughness to end up CEO, right?

45:32Now there's some truth to that. And I think the internet is a, as a general rule, a meritocracy and the top down structure, which the left prefers doesn't work. MSNBC's collapsing. And now what is everybody doing? Going to grab guys and gals on the internet and put them on television, put them on radio. And it works because we had to compete. Yeah. Well, that, that point that Clay just made right there, I think is a really interesting one. But it seems to me that in their death throes right now, where we are bigger than them, and yet they still are in some sense are the center of everything. And maybe the world just needs a center because otherwise we'd all be spinning off in our own universes.

46:09But it seems to me that in their last moments here, they are grabbing these random people from the Internet to put them on. And that just shows you how desperate they are. So you'll see a lot of these random, you know, podcast people show up on these big, quote unquote, big time CNN shows now. Well, there's two other things that I would I would add to all this. I agree with what my my esteemed colleague will apparently three hours a day hanging out with them isn't enough, Dave. You had to you. You know, can you have us on Sunday morning? Clay and I have to see him every day of the week. Two other things I would say.

46:43One is I still think even people who say it's a big deal generally undervalue or underestimate what a massive shift it has been that we have a scale social media platform with X that allows for real time information and fact checking and like BS destroying to to be out there. I think that's a huge part of this. So they can't get away with this stuff they were getting away with before. In some ways, I think the censorship and the media control was worse in the social media era than it had really ever been before because you had so much control and down to such a granular level. as we know, Dave, and this happened to you, this happened to other people, they'd go after individual people, right?

47:28They would either demonetize you or they'd shadowbend you, all that stuff. Elon has now broken that wide open with X. And so I think we should all be very grateful to what he's done for freedom there. And then the other thing I'd say, and this might be a little more controversial, but a lot of these establishment media outlets, it's funny because when Jake Tapper was trying to defend Karine Jean-Pierre, whose book tour is even more disastrous than Kamala Harris, which is hard to fathom. Like this is the way, two of the worst book tours by their own sides, they're mocking them. Don't forget his own book tour was pretty disastrous too.

48:00I mean, it's a three for three. This was terrible, right? Jake Tapper, Mr. Slick Jake Tapper, his was terrible. But he tried to say, oh, well, Corrine Jean-Pierre was a good pundit when she was, I can't speak to how she was in the White House. It's like, look, a lot of these entities, MSNBC, The New York Times, they were the pinnacle of DEI hiring. And let's just say they weren't always hiring people that made the best arguments, were the best writers, or actually had the most mental acuity. Like, that's just the truth. And by the way, we played that clip that you're talking about on the show the other day, and it's like, well, Jake, why can't you speak to her time in the White House?

48:33You opine on everything else. Yeah. So thank you for telling us that years ago she was okay as a broadcaster, but how about - By the way, for three minutes at a time, You have to be a fucking ignoramus to really be bad on television when you only have to talk for three minutes total. You get exposed when you have to talk for an hour and answer questions that demonstrate you haven't done your basic homework. That's when you get exposed. You ever get this, Dave? My favorite thing is people come up to Claire and me and they're just like, who writes all your stuff? Yeah. You're just like, writes it?

49:07Yeah. Yeah. I mean, on the one hand, I'm flattered. The other hand, I'm like, what kind of books are you reading, buddy? Yeah. No, I always say on the show, look, for better or worse, this stuff is coming out of my brain. All right, guys, let's just do one other thing right here because it is Halloween. And although robots are not really a specific part of Halloween, they are coming. They are going to take over. We are going to be in a dystopian nightmare. And this week, Neo the robot, which is going to be the first kind of at-home robot, it's going to make it to the market apparently before Elon's Optimus robot, is now available for pre-order.

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50:22Its fabric-covered body lets Neo try to do a lot of things humans do around the house. Emphasis on try. Clay, we know all this stuff is coming. This seems like a particularly perverse version in that maybe there's going to be a guy in a VR suit somewhere in India actually watching what's in your house. Most people didn't expect that part. But even if they didn't have that part, the idea that the robot's in your house watching you all the time and can just upload all that information and video and data and audio to the cloud, kind of disturbing. However, I'm going to take a slightly different tack at this, which is this is happening whether we like it or not.

50:57Like five years from now, I'm going to bet that the three of us have either this or Optimus in our house because it's just kind of how we all have iPhones now. Look, I think the maybe more terrifying aspect of this is I'm going to build on it. I don't know how many jobs are going to exist in 15 or 20 years. Like, I mean, I look around at how rapidly AI is evolving. and yes, I mean, it can say, okay, we're going to have Rosie from the Jetsons, like working as a housekeeper. Maybe that, you know, knocks a few jobs out. Most people don't have home maids right now. Right. So it's just really more of a convenience thing.

51:36Buck and I have talked about this both on air and off air. I look around at a lot of jobs. We had a caller the other day who called in and said, Hey, I work in HR. She worked out in Utah. And she's like, I've been applying hundreds of jobs. You look at the number of jobs that are being cut already in white collar. um i think in 20 years that's the scary thing it's going to be not only robot replacement but actual jobs that we rely on many people doing uh taking over too so i just think we're at a technological uh tipping point that's going to be transformative very rapidly right i think this week amazon announced they're going to cut 30 000 jobs because you know basically you're going to have drones that'll deliver the stuff and then for you know postmates they'll it'll be a automated car and probably eventually a robot that then will walk it to your buckets buckets food delivered by robots now we talked about this on the air yeah i haven't even told clay about the little robot that shows up to give me a grease center shiatsu sometimes but you know that's fun too but no there really are uh there really are little robots and have you seen these dave in the neighborhood here this is for real that that do the food delivery now uh and and i would say um this is it's a little weird a little dystopian but i will also say that if we go to driverless cars yes there may be mass unemployment but if that means that i no longer have to listen to blasting reggaeton music every time i get in south florida civil unrest is a small price to pay a small price buck i don't have to tell you at miami the cologne that these guys wear oh my god but but for real do you guys little trees those little trees they smell horrible why do we have little trees in the smelly trees you know what i mean yeah cars oh yeah no and they're endocrine disruptors they're making the frogs gay or something isn't that what alex jones said um but for real do you got five years from now are you guys going to have one as they become ubiquitous as everyone kind of gets it as elon rolls out the other one do will you get one yeah i think i think everyone is going as they become i i think it'll be interesting because you'll probably have them for discrete tasks at first like specific things right and and so you know people are saying oh how discreet you get a michelin star that was your way of saying you're gonna fuck the robots right might not have been the right word there specific you know it's specific we get it it's specific and discreet okay you know uh well definitely not if like some guy from india or whatever is going to be outsourcing the video of whatever you know that's not discreet like this is i will be uh i will be slow on the uptake i'll be slow on the i don't i don't do technology very fast because i'm skeptical that it's going to be that much better.

54:11But if everybody else starts talking about how awesome it is, then I would bet my boys will be the first ones who will want to try it. The kids because they dive in. Yeah, I still get paper newspaper delivery, which is like, what century are we in? Wow. Good for you. I'm going to be the last guy with print newspapers. Every time I get on a flight, I have a stack of print newspapers like this. I'm the only person carrying them. You know, people always ask me if I miss New York City, and the only thing that I miss is when I used to, for a quarter, get the New York Post and read it on the subway.

54:43That is the only thing I miss of New York City. I love newspapers. Yeah. Actually, I read newspapers. Gentlemen, what are you going to be for Halloween tonight, besides each other, the way I set up the show, which is quite weird? Clay, what are you going to be tonight? Right. I am. I am going to be dad following around my youngest son, who is going to be dressed as a banana. So I am going to be shepherding him around for trick or treating, not dressed up this year. Myself. Wife has been in charge of couple costumes past several years, but we're moving to a new house. So no Halloween party this year.

55:19Buck, are you taking the little lady out for Halloween? I am a guy who got a haircut in Miami for the first time, let them do what they wanted to do. And so I'm going out tonight as South Florida Buck instead of 1985 Michael P. Keaton Buck. It's funny. I was about to make a Teen Wolf reference, which is, you got it, Michael J. Fox. It all works. Yeah. Well, I'm a Ghostbuster. We're big into Ghostbusters in this house. Oh, that's awesome. My boys. Yep. I am Peter Venkman. I kind of wanted to be the black guy, but I was told that that's probably not ideal for the rest of my career. By the way, Buck knows this on the Ghostbusters.

55:59Are your boys big Ghostbusters people now? Yeah, they're obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. So I talked about this this week. My middle son was obsessed with the Ghostbusters. We took him to New York City. The only thing he wanted to do in New York City was go see all the Ghostbuster 1 and Ghostbuster 2 places. He dressed as a Ghostbuster to ride around on the subway to go visit all of the Ghostbuster sites, which was absolutely awesome. I have been to that apartment building on Central Park West. Oh, yeah. That is something. All right, guys. Happy Halloween. Have a good weekend. Happy Halloween, everybody.

56:34See you Monday. Thanks, Dave.

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