In short
The episode argues that political violence in the U.S. is being normalized by left-leaning rhetoric and media, and that “both sides” framing is dangerous. It uses the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk as the central event, then claims similar patterns exist across mainstream Democrats, online streamers, and political figures.
Guest backgrounds
No podcast guests are interviewed in the provided transcript. The episode features clips and commentary about public figures, including Whoopi Goldberg (The View), Alyssa Farah Griffin (The View), Jessica Tarlov (Fox News guest host), Greg Gutfeld (Fox News), Hassan Piker and Destiny (Twitch streamers), and Vice President J.D. Vance (guest hosting Charlie Kirk’s radio show). It also references Attorney General Pam Bondi.
Key claims
Political violence is not “50-50”; the left is said to be more likely to justify or celebrate violence. Streamers are accused of directly calling for murder. The episode argues that institutions and officials (including the Biden/left media ecosystem) create permissive conditions for attacks.
Notable examples
YouGov polling on political violence acceptance; Hassan Piker’s “Kill them” clip; Destiny’s “conservatives should be afraid of getting killed” claim; clips of The View discussion; Bondi’s “hate speech” remarks and First Amendment discussion; JD Vance citing polling and condemning violence.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussing Political Assassination and Rhetoric
0:00 to 1:04
Rubin discusses the implications of political violence and rhetoric amidst current events.
“I've tried a lot of seafood over the years, guys, and truly it's been hit or miss.”
Discussing Political Assassination and Rhetoric
3:07 to 6:28
Rubin discusses the implications of political violence and rhetoric amidst current events.
“And obviously we're gonna be talking an awful lot about Charlie today.”
Whoopi's Take on Political Violence
6:28 to 11:31
Rubin explores Whoopi Goldberg's comments regarding political violence and societal implications.
“All right, so first off, I want to credit Whoopi.”
Youth and Acceptance of Political Violence
11:31 to 14:00
A discussion on polling that reveals youth attitudes towards political violence.
“a girl by the name of Jessica Tarlov, who I think I was on Piers Morgan with once or one of those shows, she's a lefty.”
Understanding Political Violence
14:00 to 18:08
Analyzing the perception of political violence among different demographics.
“I don't have to read all the numbers there, but you can see conservatives, basically nobody thinks political violence is okay.”
The Role of Online Influencers
18:08 to 24:59
Discussing the impact of Twitch streamers and social media on political discourse.
“The government has to think about it too when someone who has a huge audience is directly calling for people to be murdered.”
The Role of Online Influencers
25:49 to 27:57
Discussing the impact of Twitch streamers and social media on political discourse.
“Hey, I'm running out to drop off a stack of letters and packages.”
Media Bias and Political Commentary
28:29 to 30:07
Discussion on CNN's Abby Phillip and political biases in media reporting.
“On Abby Phillips' show on CNN, and you know my feelings about Abby Phillips.”
Polls on Political Violence
30:08 to 31:58
Analysis of a YouGov poll regarding attitudes towards violence in politics.
“He misspoke and said conservatives there.”
Tragic Incidents and Media Response
31:59 to 33:09
Debate on media's reaction to violent incidents and their narratives.
“We don't know why that man did what he did.”
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Trump's View on Radical Left Violence
33:10 to 33:59
Discussion on Trump's comments regarding violence from the radical left.
“And Trump also now has rightly, I would say, pointed out how radical the left has become.”
Fear-Mongering in Media
34:00 to 36:18
Critique of Rachel Maddow's coverage and framing of political violence.
“Like, does anyone on the radical left, on the progressive side of the aisle, the people who constantly told us about the 1619 Project and America's founded on racism and were systemically racist and all of the things.”
The Consequences of Hate Speech
36:19 to 37:59
Discussion on the implications of hate speech and the legal context surrounding it.
“which in large part is due to Charlie Kirk himself.”
Understanding Free Speech vs. Hate Speech
38:00 to 42:00
Clarification of what constitutes free speech and the legal boundaries of hate speech.
“watching this show, but you guys better think about it too.”
The Boundaries of Speech and Violence
42:00 to 43:15
Understanding the line between free speech and incitement to violence.
“We must make the distinction between words and action.”
Elon Musk and Radical Ideologies
44:23 to 46:24
Discussion about Elon Musk's involvement and the implications of radical ideologies.
“Okay, so as this wide tent continues to widen, and it brings in many of the moderate liberals, the old school classical liberals, and again, I credit Charlie for an awful lot of that.”
Analyzing the Trantifa Movement
46:24 to 49:52
Examining the intersection of Antifa and transgender movements.
“about their sexuality or gender or anything like that.”
The Murder of Irina Zarutska
53:02 to 56:00
Analyzing the societal implications of the murder of Irina Zarutska.
“So I want to show you a video that Charlie posted on X the day before he was murdered.”
The Impact of Crime and Immigration
56:00 to 56:48
Discussion on the rising crime rates linked to illegal immigration.
“celebrating Charlie's murder is because he was perhaps the most effective at exposing their grift and their lies and their nonsense.”
The Case of Dallas Beheading
56:48 to 58:03
Details about the shocking crime in Dallas and its implications.
“But under the Biden administration, who was still in power at the time, he was released due to Cuba not wanting him back.”
Chicago's Crime Wave
58:03 to 59:21
Examination of gun violence and crime trends in Chicago.
“But remember this, back in 2023, Alejandro Mayorkas, DHS secretary, telling us about the border, despite all of the evidence that we had.”
Community Impact and Parental Responsibility
59:21 to 1:01:15
Insights from a Chicago restaurant owner on crime and parenting.
“That surveillance video shows two back-to-back incidents inside the new Fatburger in Chatham.”
Law Enforcement and Public Safety Debate
1:01:15 to 1:03:12
The conversation revolves around police presence and community safety.
“This is Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson over with Joe Scarborough and a broken clock is right twice a day.”
Trump's Legal Actions Against Media
1:03:12 to 1:07:26
Discussion of Trump's lawsuit against the New York Times for defamation.
“Today, at the request of Governor Bill Lee of Tennessee, who's standing with us, as you know, I'm signing a presidential memorandum to establish the Memphis Safe Task Force.”
Changing Public Sentiment
1:07:26 to 1:09:28
Exploration of shifting public attitudes following recent events.
“Again, Phoenix, can we do a little decorating around here?”
Free Speech and Immigration in the UK
1:09:28 to 1:10:03
Discussion on free speech issues and immigration concerns in Britain.
“Something different is going on here and it is going to scale.”
Defending Britain: A Rally for Free Speech
1:10:03 to 1:10:40
Discussion on a rally in Britain aimed at defending the country from various threats.
“He just wanted to make sure that Britain would remain British.”
Mainstream Media and Immigration Politics
1:11:23 to 1:13:21
Analysis of how mainstream media downplays public events and immigration issues.
“Now, of course, then pictures of Charlie get shown and he was mentioned during several of the talks up there.”
The Left's Strategy and Political Violence
1:13:23 to 1:14:55
Exploration of the left's strategies and the rise of political violence.
“And frankly, it's a strategy that will succeed if it is not stopped.”
Reflections on Charlie Kirk's Legacy
1:14:59 to 1:16:44
Discussion on honoring the legacy of Charlie Kirk and the importance of family.
“Look, I don't know when the point, I don't know when exactly the point is that we're going to have to start thinking about things in those so specific of framing.”
Becoming Better People: Lessons from Charlie
1:16:47 to 1:20:48
Encouragement to adopt positive traits inspired by Charlie Kirk for societal improvement.
“So is there an opportunity now where the wide tent to widen because more and more people will be disaffected by the craziness of the left?”
Transcript
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1:50This is very dangerous. I will soon be awarding Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom. A blessing on Bryson. Bryson, when you're out of high school, you want an internship, you got it.
2:26All right, guys, it is September 16th, 2025. I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. I know you're subscribed already. Welcome to all the new viewers. Two quick housekeeping things, and then we're just going to get right into it. Obviously, still a very difficult week, and none of this is going away anytime soon. However, next month, I am going to Australia. Would love to see you guys there. Dave Rubin slash events. We'll probably be adding a couple other stops on that. And a bunch of you have asked, we were going to, the new batch of Copal came in yesterday, and that was the day we were supposed to relaunch it.
2:57It's here in Miami at the warehouse available for sale. I just didn't want to do it this week. So next Monday, Copal will be available. Again, you can go to drinkcopal.com if you want, just to be the first to be notified. And obviously we're gonna be talking an awful lot about Charlie today. I think I just said to the guys right before the show, like when we were doing the run through, I think we probably changed the show and added more stuff and moved things around more than any time in the history of doing this show. And I have a feeling we're gonna be doing a lot of that as we're all working through all of this on the fly, right?
3:26Like there's the, well, for me, there's the personal side of it in that Charlie was a friend, but then there's the political side and the culture side and it's just it's just a lot of moving pieces and i have to say in in the spirit of of what charlie was all about i'm also trying to figure out a way to be a little bit better right now and that can be tough amidst the political climate uh just one other thing and then we'll get going you know i've seen a lot of comments a lot of comments saying something super interesting that i'm seeing basically as many of you saying that you found out about Charlie because of me, as many of you are saying that, as are saying you found out about me because of Charlie.
4:04And I think that that actually is what it's all about because when Charlie and I met back in late December, back in 2017, I almost sang, oh, what a night, we were on opposite ends of things. So when we sat down together, my audience was then introduced to a conservative and his audience was then introduced to a liberal. And even though our positions came a lot closer over the years, and I fully grant and Charlie, I credit you upstairs, you brought me along closer to you than you came to me. I think that's what it's all about right now. That's what we're trying to figure out right now. Are we still going to be able to do that exchange?
4:39Okay, so let's put that there. We're going to dive into all of it, all of it right now. Because, you know, with this 24-hour news cycle, we know what this is like. Like already the story of the Ukrainian refugee who got stabbed to death in Charlottesville, in charlotte like that's gone already however there's something sticky about this thing with charlie it's it's touched a nerve that is so deep it has touched something so vital to the american ethos that this thing is not going any anywhere and i think that that's a good sign i think that's a credit to charlie i don't know that anyone else um it would have this kind of stickiness so let's dive right in we're actually going to start with the view and i'm not going to be making of Whoopi right now, because Whoopi yesterday, I think, actually made a great point about what happens when you decide to assassinate people for their political views.
5:32And what assassins should always remember is just because you take somebody out doesn't mean the message is going to stop. And it's important to keep that in mind, because when you look at our loss of Martin Luther King, name anyone who's been assassinated in this country, we continue to fight on. And that's what America offers. It says, listen, you have the right to say and feel however you want. That is a birthright. You're born with that right. So taking somebody out is not the way to do it. You want to fight about something, then go to the ballot box. Go elect different people. Killing people doesn't do anything except make it a horrible world for their children.
6:27We'll be right back. All right, so first off, I want to credit Whoopi. I obviously disagree with Whoopi on an awful lot. It's been sort of personally disappointing in that I had a little interaction with her personally a couple of years ago. And nobody want, like when we play the clips of The View, it's always like, God, you're all so stupid and you're saying all these terrible things and you're lying about all of these people. And I think basically what's happened here is now she realizes something so cataclysmically horrific has happened that she better get on the right side of it. Because, by the way, if somebody is going to take out someone like Charlie Kirk at a public event, well, Whoopi does public events.
7:03And there's a lot of people that don't like Whoopi. Let's let's like put aside who's right or wrong about any of the issues. Fact, there are a lot of people who don't like Charlie, right? Fact, fact, there's a lot of people who don't like Whoopi. So it doesn't matter. We all have to stop doing this. I think perhaps, hopefully also, what's happening with Whoopi and some of the other people at that table is they're going, boy, maybe we should have toned some of this down and we shouldn't have called Trump and all his supporters and by extension, Charlie, Nazis and fascists and all of those things.
7:33Maybe there will be a moment of contrition there. I don't know. but maybe it will be there. I partly think what's happening with Whoopi here is that, well, you know what, let's jump to the Alyssa clip and then we'll talk more about Whoopi. But here's Alyssa, who again, is sort of just the pet Republican on the show, right? She's not really a Republican. She doesn't support Trump. Like they put her there. She says sort of mealy mouth things. And here, once again, this is the part that we have to get over. So I'm giving Whoopi credit, but Alyssa does not really deserve credit here because what she's basically saying is we can't blame anybody and that it's a 50-50 thing with political violence and rhetoric, and we just know it's not.
8:12So this is just the easiest nothing to say. Take a look. In this rush that people have to point and say, well, it's the left or it's the right and it's only one side, it's not true, guys. I remember, and no one at this table has said that, I remember where I was during the Steve Scalise shooting. I was working on Capitol Hill. Several of my bosses were there. We didn't know if they were okay for hours. And then I remember where I was when Paul Pelosi was attacked and when there were two attempts on Donald Trump's life. There has been political violence. Josh Shapiro was attacked against and the Minnesota lawmakers against Democrats and against Republicans.
8:43And when we swear it is just one side, we're not being part of the solution. I would rather. All right. First off, virtually all of those were lefties attacking people on the right, including the one. Well, although Josh Shapiro is not on the right, he was being he's a Democrat who is being attacked by someone on the left because he supports Israel or basically just because he's a Jew. So the asymmetry, even as you're trying to tell us it's both sides do both things, you actually prove the other point. And it just simply is not. And we need to get over, it's just the lowest resolution thinking to think, oh my God, both things are bad and both sides are equally bad.
9:20No, they're not. It doesn't mean one side is perfect, but just the easiest thing to always do is be like, everything's kind of the same on both sides because you can cherry pick things. There's just no comparison in the level of rhetoric that comes out of virtually the entire mainstream left, and believe me, we got plenty of evidence on today's show, versus what comes out on the right. When people on the left call us Nazis and fascists, it's basically the worst thing you can call somebody. Now, what would be the equivalent when people on the right say something? Well, they'd say they're socialists.
9:54But they are socialists. They admit they're socialists. An admitted socialist is running to be the next mayor of New York City and likely going to win. Bernie Sanders now admits he's a socialist. He doesn't say Democrat socialist anymore, which I called years ago. Same thing with AOC, et cetera, et cetera. They believe socialism is a legitimate political identity and we just call them what they say they are. That is wildly different than someone saying I'm pro-America and thus that means you're a Nazi. So I think what's happening with Alyssa, you know, there's the famous quote from Nietzsche, if you stare into the abyss, the abyss will gaze back at you.
10:28And I think they're starting to realize that, that they stared into this thing for so long. They had so much to do with all of this. And this is sort of the whoopee thing too. Like you guys did so much of this. You ruined so much of our ability to talk to each other, right? Because the view for whatever, why is it that I play clips of the view? Why do clips of the view always go viral? There is something about that show that Barbara Walters got right 20 years ago. We're going to take people from different walks of life and different beliefs and have them sit together and talk it out. But then it became the complete reverse of it.
11:01So actually, Charlie did a far better job at what Barbara Walters set out to do, talking to different people who have different beliefs than anyone on The View does. So they've, I think that's what the Nietzsche quote is about. They basically have gone as far as they can now. And somehow the fruits of that lead to Charlie being assassinated, right? I'm not blaming the view, but you get the point. It creates the conditions for it. And now they're kind of like, well, we better back off and that's good. If I didn't explain that well enough right there, a girl by the name of Jessica Tarlov, who I think I was on Piers Morgan with once or one of those shows, she's a lefty.
11:40She was guest hosting on The Five last night on Fox. She basically made the same point. It's a 50-50 proposition. And Greg Gutfeld, I've never seen Greg Gutfeld go off like this ever before. Pro-Palestine person. So don't use your, what about this? The fact, the fact of the matter is the both sides argument not only doesn't fly, we don't care. We don't care about your both sides argument. That shit is dead. For one thing, there is no cognitive dissonance on our side. On your side, your beliefs do not match reality. So you're coming up with these rationalizations like what about this or what about that we're not doing that because we saw it happen we saw a young bright man assassinated and we know who did it we are not coming up with rationalizations we are calm we are honest and we are resolute we're not defensive and i understand the defensiveness i understand why people are saying what about this and what about this because if you have to face the underlying fact of this your life is gonna fall apart yeah i mean greg you know greg greg is like me in that what what he wants to do when he's on air is be funny basically right and communicate this all the crap in a way that it's going to hopefully make you smile right you'll think a little bit and smile uh he really laid into her he actually at the end of that he kind of apologized to her because he was like this is sort of happening all too fast.
13:15But the point is, because here's the point. I know that every single one of you watching this right now is dealing with this in your own way. Everyone is like, if you say something and then it's like, but the other side doesn't do. We have to get over that. It is not equal. And the more we play that game with them, the further they will drag us down into that abyss. But there's also proof. There is proof in the numbers. Listen, this is wild. Listen to this from YouGov. They did some polling on Americans, particularly young Americans and violence, political violence. Most Americans across the political spectrum say political violence is never justified, but younger and more liberal Americans are likely to disagree.
13:56US adults, 11 % say it's okay to be violent. Not sure 12 % prefer not to say 6%. No, 72%. So 72 % of adults, but very liberal. Yes, 25%, 14%, not sure. I prefer not to say 6%, no, 55%. That is wildly different. I don't have to read all the numbers there, but you can see conservatives, basically nobody thinks political violence is okay. So that's a YouGov poll. That is not a poll that is designed to help conservatives. So you might be watching this. Well, I have no doubt if you're watching this and you've been watching for a while, you know where this has all come from, right? For a decade now, if not more, They took over the institutions.
14:38They said we were all Nazis. They said climate change was coming. They confused young people about their generals. They created the perfect soup of madness to radicalize a generation. But now I wanna show you two very specific points on this because this guy, we showed you this video yesterday, but it is worth showing again. This guy, Hassan Piker, who I worked with for a period of time when I was at the Young Turks, He is one of, if not the number one streamer on Twitch. He is absolutely massive. We check some numbers. He probably makes at least 200 grand a month on Twitch. Here is a nine second video of him on Twitch.
15:18Kill them. Kill those motherfuckers. Murder those motherfuckers in the street. Let the streets soak in their red capitalist bloods, dude. Okay. So first off, that is not protected speech. That's a direct call for violence. Kill them. It couldn't be more clear. It couldn't be more clear. And he is on Twitch and he's on various other platforms. I'm not calling for him to be arrested per se, but these platforms, putting aside the First Amendment and protected speech, and we'll have more on that in just a second, these platforms have a terms of service, but they allow it to be. And again, the point is, as per the YouGov poll, that young people who are influenced by people like this guy, they are getting their news.
15:58They are watching these video game streams where people opine on these things. and you have people literally saying, kill these people. We want blood in the streets. Here's another one. Here's this guy, Destiny, who's another one of these kind of video game streamers, lefties, and listen to this. The crime statistics? Not exactly like... I need, you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. So conservatives should be afraid of being killed when they go to events. Think about where that will take us as a country, right?
16:36I don't care about that guy. I don't even need to comment about him. I'm talking about the idea right now. Think about what we will do that. So conservatives could say the same thing. Liberals are socialists. Liberals are all crazy. They want to take out America and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That actually is closer to the truth. But no one says, oh, they should be afraid to show up at events, what are you saying? I should be afraid to show up if I perform at a comedy club or a theater? I should be under the threat of death when I do that? Or my audience should feel that? Or anyone else? Well, I guess actually when you show one guy who's saying we want blood in the streets and the other one's saying fear death, you can, again, you can see it.
17:14So then where, it's not just out of nothing, right? It didn't just magically materialize that YouGov poll. That, what was it? 25 % of young Democrats, very liberal, they call it, very liberal. They've completely mucked up the word liberal, but put that aside. They believe that political violence is justifiable. If the system is so corrupt in their mind, well, if you got to kill a couple of people, it's why I've said on this show for months, eventually they will strap on suicide bombs. Because why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? If you're defending the world from Hitler and the fascists and you have to blow up a couple of buses or you got to burn down a courthouse or whatever in the name of stopping it, you probably wouldn't.
17:55if your thought leaders are out there on major platforms. Twitch must respond to this. They must respond to this. Why are you allowing that on your platform? They have to ask that. They have to answer for that. The government has to think about it too when someone who has a huge audience is directly calling for people to be murdered. So I'd say there's two things that need to be thought of there. But of course, it's not just the Twitch video game streamers who are radicalizing the base. It is the main stream of the Democrat party. That man cannot see public office again. He is destructive to our democracy and he has to be he has to be eliminated.
18:37And I hope these far right podcasters come to their senses and recognize that this is not war. We do not divide this entire country based on political ideology. We are on the eve of an authoritarian administration. This is what 21st century fascism is starting to look like. I'm on the opposite side of that. I'm not with the Nazis. People can finger point all they want. Look at the record. Look at the actions of what we are doing. I don't think a single person who has dedicated their entire career to preventing gun safety legislation from getting passed in this house has any right to blame anybody else but themselves for what is happening.
19:23We're in a war right now to save this country. And so you have to be willing to do whatever is necessary in order to save the country. We've looked today at the left or the right as the enemy. And it's worth us stepping back and understanding how we reclaim a sense of ourself that maybe is not so rooted in politics, which is inherently oppositional. There has been a permissiveness about political violence. And I do think the president of the United States has to answer for the way in which he's created that culture of permissiveness. Okay. So it's not just the video game streamers that are ginning up all of this evil and God knows what they're doing on these discord forums and all of those other things.
20:06Those are mainstream Democrat Congress people, right? By any means necessary. Well, murder, murder is any means, right? The suicide bomb, that'll be any means. They're telling you, you must stop this thing. AOC, in the same sentence, authoritarian, fascism, Nazis. So then you might, you might take a 16 year old who's going through the natural processes of growing up who then is hit with all of this bullshit and they might do some crazy things. They might. In a sane world, someone like AOC would not be a congressperson, however she is. And we are going to have to confront the fact that there are multiple, it's not just her, and it's not just this guy, Dan Goldman, and the other guy.
20:52There are multiple congresspeople that actually are for violence, that have signaled to their base, be violent. Now, of course, they're pretending they have nothing to do with it or that it's a 50-50 thing. Now, nobody should go out there and assassinate her. What you want to do is expose the nonsense. You want to expose their bad ideas, but it is not a both sides thing. And this must be the takeaway right now, right? Like there's mourning to be done. There's all sorts of pain going around and all of that stuff. But right now, their move is to make this seem like it's 50-50. And we have to push back on that with absolutely everything we've got.
21:27And actually our vice president, J.D. Vance, did just that. He guest hosted for Charlie Kirk's radio show yesterday. And he basically illustrated the exact point that I'm trying to drive home right now. I really do believe that we can come together in this country. I believe we must. But unity, real unity can be found only after climbing the mountain of truth and there are difficult truths we must confront in our country one truth is that 24 percent of self-described quote very liberals believe it is acceptable to be happy about the death of a political opponent while only three 3 % of self-described very conservatives agree.
22:163 % is too many, of course. Another truth is that 26 % of young liberals believe political violence is sometimes justified, and only 7 % of young conservatives say the same. Again, too high a number. In a country of 330 million people, you can of course find one person of a given political persuasion justifying this or that or almost anything. But the data is clear. People on the left are much likelier to defend and celebrate political violence. This is not a both sides problem. Yeah. So first off, I love that on the chyron there, they didn't put vice president of the United States. They put longtime friend of Charlie Kirk.
22:59Of course, he's referencing the exact same YouGov poll that I'm talking about there. And he's even qualifying. The fact that 3 % of conservatives say it is too much. Like he's doing everything you could possibly do to analyze that in a fair way. But now to the backdrop of the videos that I just show you, two massive online streamers, absolutely. One of them outright calling for violence. The other one saying, yeah, you need violence. So these people are afraid. Then we show you the compilation of Congress people saying all of the worst things of all of us. None of this is a surprise. None of this is a surprise.
23:33And I guess that's it. I actually, you know what? About 20 minutes after Charlie was shot, we were sitting here and we were like, just all kind of stunned in silence. And I think what I said to the guys was something like, I'm surprised, but I'm not shocked. Right? Like, I'm surprised that this happened, but can I be shocked that it happened? Why would you be shocked? They are, they are encouraging their people to do it. I want to show you one more from JD while guest hosting. There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder.
24:11There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend. There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination. And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers, who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree. I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend. I want it so badly that I will tell you a difficult truth.
24:52We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable. And when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism in our own country. All right. Well, well said, Mr. Vice President. And if you want to work to dismantle those institutions, well, we know that a lot of that has been done in some sense. Right. We're getting rid of the Department of Education. We are removing wokeness from.
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26:34So I don't know, there's a big building somewhere in DC and you can walk down a hallway and ask the department of justice to look into what's going on over at Twitch, right? Like, why are we, we're just allowing it to happen. I no, we're all busy, we're all busy, we're all distracted. And we're literally handing our children to a bunch of people who are turning them into communist soldiers. This is a problem. We're gonna continue with this theme about how we have to push back on this both sides thing because it is the most dangerous trap they are setting for all of us in just a second. But first, kick off.
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28:37She reads it and that's it. She last night tried to twist JD's comments that we just played for you and make it seem like he's only going after the left. And that this again, this is a both sides thing. Well, one of the guests, his name is Joe Borelli. Well, he brought up those YouGov poll numbers. This is about punishing them, them being the left, them being his political opponents. that actually, I think, is surprising to a lot of Americans because that's not typically what you would expect to hear from the White House. Well, let's talk about some polling that he used to justify those comments before he made them on TV.
29:17YouGov came out with a poll three days ago talking about how each side feels about violence and support of political deaths. Liberals, 16 percent, believe it's OK to feel joy when your political opponent is killed. Liberals, very liberals, 24 percent. conservatives 4 percent very conservatives 3 percent justifying violence very liberal people have 25 percent answered yes it's okay you justified to do violence against your political opponents liberals 17 percent conservatives 8 percent very conservatives three that means it is six to one times more likely in response to this poll on the left now i'm not saying there's exclusivity on the left i'm not saying that but there is certainly a problem where six times the The amount of Republicans believe that it's okay to feel joy when your political opponent is killed, murdered, whatever, attacked.
30:06And that six to one believe that they are okay in justifying violence against political opponents. That's a problem. That's a cancer within the movement. Okay, you probably caught it. He misspoke and said conservatives there. He didn't mean conservatives. He meant liberals. But the six to one numbers, like you can't, I mean, these are real numbers. YouGov is, again, they're not going out of their way to make conservatives look good. But what Abby has to do right now, because it is her job as a mouthpiece at CNN, and again, she just has the chair right now, but they know she's not very good and she won't have the job in about a year.
30:37And they'll fill it with somebody else that won't be particularly good either. That's how it works. She might want to think about what she has done as it relates to all of this. We played this clip several times. But as you know, I mean, and this is how fast the news cycle travels. And as I said, the Charlie thing is sticky, so it's pushing other things out of the way. We're only what, a week off of where the entire country was focused on the murder of that young woman, Irina Zarutska, on the Charlotte light rail, who was murdered for being white. It is as simple as that, murdered in cold blood.
31:09Well, that night, or when the story went wild, this is two days before Charlie's assassination, what did Abby Phillip and Van Jones do on their show? They made it about Charlie for no reason. It had nothing to do with Charlie, but this is worth showing you again. I want to be there. And it's super difficult. It's about forcing you to be there. When you are mentally ill, you have a hard time knowing that you are mentally ill. But also, I mean, people like Charlie Kirk, Van, they've been looking for opportunities to make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation. And that's the part that I think he's almost giving away the game.
31:47And it's sad to see a lot of people going along with it. You know, let me just say a couple of things. One is, I mean, what happened to that young woman was horrible. And it's everybody's nightmare. If you're in any public space, subway, whatever, that something bad is going to happen to you or somebody you care about. So it does strike a chord. We don't know why that man did what he did. And for Charlie Kirk to say, we know he did it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that, it's just pure race, race mongering, hate mongering. It's wrong. First off, there is evidence of that. We've played the evidence for you.
32:20The guy literally said, what did he say? I got that white girl. I got that white girl right after he stabbed her to death. That's number one. But again, this is two days before Charlie was killed. Why, Abby, did you bring Charlie's name into it? The story stands on its own, whether you agree with my analysis of it or not. The story, you can talk about that story without bringing up Charlie Kirk. Why did you bring up Charlie? Did that come from your brain or did someone hand you something and say, make this about Charlie Kirk? and then for Van to completely lie about the situation. Maybe he hadn't seen that video yet.
32:50I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I tweeted when I saw that, that Van should never be allowed to be on CNN without retracting that and apologizing to Charlie. Charlie's now dead. I'm not blaming Van and I'm not blaming Abby Phillips, but they might wanna think about what was going on over there just two days before Charlie was killed. Anyway, here's Trump on this. And Trump also now has rightly, I would say, pointed out how radical the left has become. Well, the media, of course, is going after him for attacking, not attacking, for rightly pointing out how radical the left has become.
33:26And here's a reporter questioning him on that. And here's Trump once again, leveling up. He is not playing games with these people anymore. The killing of Melissa Hartman, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the attack on Gabby Giffords, the attack on the Pennsylvania governor's mansion. Why make the case that violence is only on one side? It seems to be taking... I didn't say it's on one side, but I say the radical left causes tremendous violence and they seem to do it in a bigger way. But the radical left really has caused a lot of problems for this country. I really think they hate our country. Okay, yeah, please.
34:02And it's just true, right? Like, does anyone on the radical left, on the progressive side of the aisle, the people who constantly told us about the 1619 Project and America's founded on racism and were systemically racist and all of the things. I don't feel like repeating it over and over. Do they like this country? Do they like this country? On one hand, they will tell you how horrible the country is. And on the other hand, they'll tell you, we better open the borders to let everyone in, to share in the horror. None of it makes sense. And it's good that Trump is basically just like, I'm not apologizing.
34:34I'm not telling you it's 50-50 or anything else, right? I am just not doing it. And again, of course, the reporter brings up the Josh Shapiro thing, even though it was a leftist that did it. On the televised mental institution known as MSNBC, Rachel Maddow spent the hour fear-mongering around Trump. And I'm going to blow your mind with a stat at the end of this thing, but here you go. Another headline today, quote, White House plans broad crackdown on liberal groups. they're saying now they will use the horrific murder of pro-Trump activist Charlie Kirk last week as a justification for some undefined whole of government attack on what they always describe very vaguely as the left in this country.
35:18Now the stat that I'm going to blow your mind with, so she spends the entire hour going after Trump, basically blaming Trump, blah, blah, blah, blah, she only said Charlie Kirk's name once during that show. That was the moment that she said Charlie Kirk's name. On Anderson Cooper, which I guess airs at the exact same time on CNN, Cooper had the, I would say the wherewithal to mention Kirk's name 17 times. So look, I've got my issues with CNN and Anderson Cooper, but he's doing a hell of a lot better job. The fact that they desperately, because they put victimhood at the top of everything, right?
35:50So Rachel needs her audience to feel like, oh, Charlie Kirk got shot. We're the victims. We're the ones under attack. Not the wife of the guy who will now go living without having a father for her children. They're not the victims. Not all of the people who we've wrongly lied about for all of this time and called Nazis and everything else. In the midst of the tragedy, before the guy is buried, we are the victims. Kid Rock, because this alliance that MAGA has created, which in large part is due to Charlie Kirk himself. So you can play videos of Kid Rock and you might go, man, what does he have to do with politics?
36:29But yet it kind of makes sense because Kid Rock, who lived a wildly, let's say different lifestyle than Charlie, right? Like these were people who behind the scenes were doing very different things throughout their life. But what brought them together? The love of America. Well, here's Kid Rock talking to Jesse Waters and warning people who are going after the Charlie Kirk memorials. Is there any message you want to get across real quickly to people that are still vandalizing vigils and celebrating this murder? Yeah, you're going to keep it up. You're going to run into the wrong people. Some people I know.
37:07Yeah. And I'm going to play that mess. And it's not going to be pretty. It's going to be very ugly. And we don't want it to get that way. And it shouldn't get that way. But it's throttling towards a very dangerous place. Right. Well, that's the key part that we're at right now. And we all have to think about that here. Jesse's right. It's getting out of control. Imagine if something else happens. I don't even want to think about it. I don't want to even speak it into being. But imagine if there's another shooting or just something else, or someone does the wrong thing at a Charlie vigil. Actually, one of the vigils yesterday, I think it was in DC, some of the pro-Palestine people started chanting with the flag and all that stuff.
37:44At some point, the people who are in mourning right who are in pain the way you're in pain, the way I'm in pain, eventually that could bubble out the wrong way. And we really better think about that. We really, really better think about that. And it's not just us that better think about that. I know there aren't a lot of radical lefties watching this show, but you guys better think about it too. Now I wanna show you some of the sort of fallout politically from this, because this video is going really, really viral this morning. And Attorney General Pam Bondi, she really stepped in it. So here she is talking about hate speech as it pertains to the people who are mocking Charlie's death or celebrating Charlie's death, et cetera, et cetera, saying that the government will target these people.
38:27We'll unpack it after. But listen to her in her own words. There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society. Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people so we show them that some action is better than no action? We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that's across the aisle. Okay, so Bondi really, really misspoke right there. There is no such thing as hate speech. We'll give you the exact Supreme Court decision on that in just a second.
39:14Meaning you can say mean things about people. I assure you, I open up Twitter and some of these other things, and people say the worst possible things that you can imagine to me. Sometimes things that I can't imagine they say to me. Now, the difference between saying something horrible about a person or a group of people, you're mean, you're assholes, you're Nazis, you're allowed to say all these things. That's one thing. What is not protected free speech is direct calls for violence. Say the video we showed you earlier from Twitter, murder those people. That's actually not constitutionally protected by the First Amendment, okay?
39:48Now, but what she's saying there, it was very sloppy what she said, because to say hate speech is not protected, it actually is, right? You are allowed to say mean things, and we should want it that way. You want the, it's ironic, you want the most liberal interpretation of free speech as possible. And then, as I've said on the show a million times, we have very specific things that you can't do. You can't call for direct violence. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater with the intent to do harm. You actually can yell fire in a crowded theater, but with the intent to do harm. Then we have like the most stringent laws around libel and slander, but that's it.
40:25So Bondi got a huge pushback on that. And then she stepped in it again with her response, even though she sort of got it right here, but watch what she did on Twitter. Hate speech that crosses into the line of threats and violence is not protected by the First Amendment. It's a crime. For far too long, we've watched the radical left normalized threats, call for assassinations, and cheer on political violence. The era is over. Under 18 U.S.C. 75C, it is a federal crime to transmit any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or threat to injure the person of another. Likewise, 1887-618 USC makes it a felony to threaten public officials, members of Congress, or their families.
41:07You cannot call for someone's murder. You cannot SWAT a member of Congress. You cannot dox a conservative family and think it will be brushed off as free speech. These acts are punishable crimes, and every single threat will be met with the full force of the law. Free speech protects ideas, debate, even dissent, but does not and never protect violence. It is clear this violent rhetoric is designed to silence others from voicing conservative ideals. We will never be silenced, not for our families, not for our freedoms, and never for Charlie. His legacy will not be erased by fear or intimidation.
41:37Okay, so she got everything right there except the first two words. She starts it by saying hate speech, but there is no thing such as hate speech. In the 1969 Supreme Court decision, Street vs. New York, here's the exact quote, The public expression of ideas may not be prohibited merely because ideas themselves are offensive to some of their hearers. So we must make the distinction. We must make the distinction between words and action. And then again, you can look at the letter of the law and the letter of the law says you cannot say, go kill that person. Go kill those people. That is not protected speech.
42:20Sort of like this. Kill them. Kill those motherf*****ers. and murder those motherfuckers in the street. Let the streets soak in their red capitalist bloods, dude. Okay, so as far as Bondi, look, she mangled it when she said hate speech. Her response was correct, except for saying hate speech again. Let's put it this way. Let's put it this way. You guys know all the stuff that's happening across the pond in Britain right now as it pertains to hate speech laws. People who are arrested for posting on Twitter that they don't want illegal immigrants coming to their country or saying mean things about immigrants.
42:53You can say mean things. That's the point. When it leads to incitement of violence or direct violence, that is the line. So while Bondi mangled it, and even her response was slightly mangled, her explanation of what the First Amendment protects and what our Constitution protects was correct. And hopefully, hopefully she doesn't step in that again. And we'll have a bit more on this radicalization by some people who should be thought of as liberals in a sane world, but now are part of MAGA in just a second but first chapter. If you or a loved one are on Medicare or turning 65 soon, you need to hear this.
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44:38And Elon Musk, what got Elon involved? Well, it was the fight for free speech. Look at this meme he put up. I think this, you know, they say a meme is worth a thousand words. So first panel, they're all Nazis, meaning young people being taught by, taught, I use that in quotes, taught by a teacher, they're all Nazis. The second panel, the media, they're all Nazis. The third panel, a group of young people go to a concert, they're all Nazis. And the fourth panel, and this is the chilling part, is the young person that has then been and radicalized by those three other panels with the gun. They're all Nazis.
45:11This is an obvious extension of what this thing is. And of course, the ultimate irony as it pertains to all of this is if you wanted to accomplish what the Nazis wanted to accomplish, which was basically the extermination of the Jews, there's way more people on the left that want that, that are marching in the streets, literally calling for genocide, river to the sea. That would be wiping out about 8 million Jews. I don't even wanna go with all that right now, but you get the point. Like there's an incredible layer of irony and dishonesty and everything else, but the meme itself, and that's why memes spread faster than the spoken word now.
45:45It illustrates it perfectly. Young people are being hit and hit and hit and hit, and then eventually someone is going to do something bad. My friend, Andy Ngo, who has been in this fight quite literally on the front lines and paid the price for it physically, who has been exposing what's going on with the radical left for at least a decade, who has been attacked, he has been doxxed, he has had all sorts of threats and all the rest of it, but he is brave and he is stepping into the fight again. Here he is on Jesse Waters talking about the Trantifa movement. So this is the Antifa people combined with the sort of transgender queer people, which is more of a political ideology than has anything to do with anyone's personal preference about their sexuality or gender or anything like that.
46:28Anyway, he explains this perfectly, watch. THE TRANS MOVEMENT, THAT MOVEMENT, SOME OF IT HAS GONE UNDERGROUND AND HAS BECOME FIERCELY MILITARISTIC. WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE? WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT? SO I SAW THIS FIVE YEARS AGO IN PORTLAND WHEN A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF THE ANTIFA RIOT ARRESTES WERE SOMEHOW SO-CALLED GENDER DIVERSE, TRANS OR NONBINARY, SOMETHING LIKE that. And they don't hide their extremism. If you go to any of their rallies, you look at the activist groups and the type of placards and signs and chants that they say, they threaten to kill people if their agenda is not followed through.
47:13And they are, they have this perception and they say it, that there's a trans genocide going on. So when you have...
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48:08And then there was this other group, the Antifa group, that was all about destroying the system, right? They're all about destroying the system. And then you, and this is what intersectionality is. Now you see that you can fit your pieces together like a Lego. And the hope is that all of these perceived oppressed groups can figure out a way to destroy the system. It's exactly why the Queers for Palestine thing works only temporarily. It works for now. Oh, what is your goal together? Your goal together is to just destroy Israel, destroy America, blah, blah, blah. But you actually hate each other.
48:40Islamists don't love the queers for Palestine, okay? Fortunately, there's less tall buildings in Gaza, so there will be less places for them to be thrown off. Andy continues here talking about how this horrific ideology leaks through the system through our politicians, journalists, NGOs, and more. I think, I hope that it's been eye-opening for the public to see the bloodlust that exists, not just on the fringe left, obviously, but also on the mainstream left, in the aftermath of this assassination. It is a cancer that exists on the left, and it's mainstream, and there's some data to back that up.
49:20Just overnight, a mural for Charlie Cook in Pensacola, Florida, was vandalized with Antifa propaganda on it. And some of the messages that left on it were the exact messages from what was engraved on the rifle cartridges that were used in the attack. So this is the mindset we're dealing with. It is, I will call it a death cult. They worship death. They want their targets killed. And they've been supported by a huge apparatus. I'm not just talking about the black bloc militants who are on the streets as acting as thugs, carrying out arson attacks and assaulting people. I'm talking about politicians who spread their propaganda and lies, NGOs, nonprofit groups, elected officials, and many in the Democrat Party, and of course, many journalists.
50:12So look, Pam Bondi, I was just critical of you, but I did give you credit for cleaning up your statement, but you are attorney general. How about you listen to what Andy just said right there, who's done a tremendous amount of research on this. And I sense a RICO case in here somewhere, right? There's got to be something with the NGOs that are coordinating with the foot soldiers on the ground that are clearly doing acts of criminality. And they work with politicians and members in the media. Remember during BLM, all the politicians, Antifa is just an idea. It's not an organization, right? And what does Antifa actually do?
50:44I mean, here's one just very simple example. This is at the Portland courthouse where they quite literally tried to burn the building down. And we know this, we know about CHOP in Seattle. And they're always masked, right? Like they love their masks, just like their Hamas buddies. And we know about CHOP in Seattle, where they quite literally took several blocks and just created an autonomous zone where someone did get murdered, by the way. No more, no more. And I would also point out, and this is a complete sidebar, and we have Andy on the show on Friday, by the way, it's a complete sidebar. Andy, happens to be gay.
51:16It does not matter. Does not matter. It is, I've spent plenty of time with him. It is the least interesting thing about Andy. But what Andy is pointing out about the T thing is what the gays and the Bs and the Ls better figure out pretty fucking soon. You have nothing to do with these people. You have nothing to, as a matter of fact, they're the ones who want to take the young Ls and the Gs and the Bs and chemically castrate them. And that's one part of it. And the other part is they want to radical, they want to combine all these letters to make it seem like everyone is evil, and that is simply not the case.
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53:02All right. So I want to show you a video that Charlie posted on X the day before he was murdered. And of course, the news cycle moves so fast that we just forget things. We forget the things that we were all focused on five days ago. But the thing five days ago was Irina Zarutska's murder. And listen to Charlie on that. On August 22nd, Irina Zarutska was stabbed to death on the rail system in Charlotte, North Carolina, by a savage career criminal. Her life story, I think, will be told both in the United States and Ukraine for years to come. What do you think the importance of this story is most fundamentally?
53:38This was one of the coldest, most senseless murders I've ever seen. She had no interaction with this guy whatsoever. She was sitting on her own business and he just takes out a knife and just decides to stab her. I do say this with some form of just heaviness. I don't like politicizing situations like this, but it just necessitates it because there are so many dynamics at play here. Based on the information evidence we have, the attacker did say, I got that white girl.
54:08The attacker racialized it in his own telling of this situation. And we all know this. Any honest observer of your program knows this, including Van Jones even knows this deep down, which is that, of course, if a random white person on a subway took out a knife and stabbed a black girl senselessly to death, there would be massive media coverage. There would be policy changes. There would be people having to apologize for this. We saw this in George Floyd. And yet, for whatever reason, the situation has not garnered even a fraction of that kind of outrage or background. There's Charlie with all the grace that he always had, you know, subtly mentioning the Van Jones thing.
54:46And Charlie, if I could add on to what you said right there, we'd also see cities burning if that had happened. Right. If a random white person had just murdered a beautiful 23 year old black girl in cold blood for no reason and said, I got the black girl, a black girl. We know that cities would quite literally be burning right now. There would be streets boarded up in LA putting up slogans in the name of tolerance because they wouldn't want the quote unquote tolerant people to burn down their store in the name of tolerance. And Charlie deeply understood that and he was waking people up to that.
55:19There's a bit more on what's going on here related to that murderer. Listen to this from Conservative Brief. removal notice, rogue judge who released North Carolina train killer faces justice. So that is the judge, the woman on the left there. And as you know, we covered this last week. I can't believe the story is already gone, basically. That judge never even passed the bar. They were a magistrate judge, which is just an appointed position. It's hard to imagine that, that the person who's deciding on the cases, in essence, doesn't have to be nearly as qualified as the lawyers who are arguing the case.
55:53So now I want to connect this to more broadly. We're going to put down some of the Charlie stuff for a moment. We're not fully there. But I want to connect this to more broadly what's happening in the country, because part of the reason that so many people on the left are celebrating Charlie's murder is because he was perhaps the most effective at exposing their grift and their lies and their nonsense. And he would often do it to their faces. And much of that had to do with crime in our streets and our big cities. And it had to do with illegal immigration, something that they told us wasn't happening.
56:21And then eventually when they saw it, they realized, they said it's not their fault. And now they kind of agree that it is happening, but they still don't like Donald Trump. So listen to this story. I mean, this is another one that's not gonna get the coverage it deserves because of everything that's happening right now. But an illegal in Dallas beheaded his boss the other day. Seven-year-old Jordanes Cobos-Martinez should not have been in the United States when police say he beheaded his boss at a Dallas motel Wednesday morning. The already once convicted Cuban national had been on an immigration detainer when he was released from a California jail on January 13th of this year after serving time for carjacking a woman in South Lake Tahoe while he was naked.
57:03But under the Biden administration, who was still in power at the time, he was released due to Cuba not wanting him back. Do you realize how insane this all is? A man who was once convicted, who while naked carjacked a woman, like that seems a little excessive. That happens in Cali. And now you realize why, even though we have states rights in independent states, which is wonderful, we have a bigger problem because these idiots, because we had a derelict auto pen that was running the country for four years. And we had certain states that were becoming sanctuary states. And then you can't just, there's no, we don't have walls between our states.
57:37So then people can get in through Cali, get the benefits of Cali, and then move over to Dallas where they can behead somebody, behead somebody, their boss, okay? And what Charlie, again, like we're sort of dancing away from the Charlie thing for a moment, but it all's connected to the things that he was fighting for. What was he fighting for? That he was told that they called him a Nazi and racist for? Well, he wanted a border. He wanted America to have a border the way every other nation state has a border. But remember this, back in 2023, Alejandro Mayorkas, DHS secretary, telling us about the border, despite all of the evidence that we had.
58:12It's my testimony that the border is secure, and we are working every day, day and night, to increase its security. No, the border wasn't secure. And it sounds like 21 million people got into this country while you were in charge. And Trump, to the best of his abilities, is trying to clean that up. But 21 million people is an awful lot of people. Let's also connect this to something that was happening right before Charlie that we were focused on that now will take a backseat, which is Chicago. Because as you know, let's get the numbers, how many people were killed in Chicago this past weekend.
58:45As you know, Chicago, it is the leader in gun deaths and it's virtually always black on black. But if you point that out, you're called a racist, which is why Abby Phillips and Van Jones were trying to connect that other story to him. I'm being told 19 people were shot in Chicago this weekend, two dead. So only two died, but 19, probably all black people were shot. You're not going to know any of their names and you know why. Here's a restaurant owner in Chicago begging for help because his store, his restaurant, keeps being attacked by young people. So heartbreaking watching on the surveillance camera, them running for their lives.
59:21That surveillance video shows two back-to-back incidents inside the new Fatburger in Chatham. In the first, one employee fights off an attacker who came behind the counter. That was in December. Then in January, more people jumping over the counter and causing problems. But thank God to a customer who was a concealed carrier, he pulled out his gun and he scared them off. The owner, Jackie Jackson, said she initially kept the videos to herself because she didn't want the negative attention. But she chose to release them this week with a message for parents. It's just very challenging. And I believe the problem is starts at home.
59:57The home needs to be the foundation. The parents need to be the leader. The parents need to be the educator and the parents need to be the kids hero. If that foundation is not built, it's going to spill over into the school system. It's going to spill over into the businesses and then eventually it's going to the streets. Hey, Jackie Johnson. I think that's what they said her name was. Why won't why won't Democrats say her name? She appears to be black to me, I suppose. I don't really care, other than the way these things are now framed through race. But she was a small business owner, owned a burger joint.
1:00:29And her burger joint got mauled twice. And they point out she didn't even release the video at first because she didn't want to deal with the fallout of everything. But how is it the tolerant, decent position to take guns away from law-abiding people and have utter mayhem all over your city where people are shot relentlessly and then businesses actually leave? They cannot do business there. And then good people, we get an incredible sorting of the country. Good people are like, you know what? I might get shot and or raped or my store might get burned down or my employee might have his head mashed into the fryer.
1:01:00So we're going to move to Florida and the red states will get stronger and the blue states will get weaker. A little bit more on Chicago. We showed you this the other day, but I think it's worth noting because all of these things are directly connected to policy. It does not have to be this way. Decline is a choice and you must stop voting for these lunatics. This is Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson over with Joe Scarborough and a broken clock is right twice a day. And he's asking him about more cops on the streets. And watch this policing alone. You've told me everything else you want. I'm curious.
1:01:30And this this does come down to an ideological difference between between people. Do you believe that the streets of Chicago would be safer if there were more uniformed police officers on the streets of Chicago? I believe the city of Chicago and cities across America would be safer if we actually had, you know, affordable housing. Look, that's not the question I ask. My question is, and I just need a yes or no. Do you believe the streets of Chicago would be safer? I don't believe that we should narrow it down to just police officers. That is what I'm saying. That is an antiquated approach. No, it's not antiquated at the end of the day.
1:02:14Actually, it's the least antiquated approach. You wanna try some new approaches. You could talk about AI and a whole bunch of stuff, but you know what's not antiquated? Just the age-old trusted police officers on the street encourage people to do less crazy criminal shit. How about that? But Brandon Johnson, you don't care about dead black people and you don't care about the good, decent people, including that woman right there, who are gonna flee your city. You just don't care. So what does this all lead to? Well, we have states and cities, and they're all Democrat-run, who refused to uphold the law, which punishes good people and emboldens bad people.
1:02:49Thus, you have now a situation where Trump, who shouldn't have to do anything about any of this, right, in a functioning system, Trump isn't looking at the paper every day like, boy, I better get some troops down in Florida. I better get some troops down in Texas, right? He's not doing that. He has to do it in these blue cities and states. So here he is signing a presidential memorandum to establish a Memphis task force to reduce crime. Today, at the request of Governor Bill Lee of Tennessee, who's standing with us, as you know, I'm signing a presidential memorandum to establish the Memphis Safe Task Force.
1:03:25And it's very important because of the crime that's going on, not only in Memphis, in many cities, and we're going to take care of all of them. So step by step, just like we did in D.C., we have virtually no crime in D.C. right now. And we're going to keep it that way. It's our nation's capital. We're going to keep it that way. We're going to federalize it if we had to. But we don't have to anymore because it's in such great shape. You know, you may be hearing that going, wait a minute, this makes no sense. Memphis is in Tennessee. Tennessee is red. What's going on there? But of course, Memphis happens to be the blue, in essence, the blue capital of Tennessee.
1:03:56And as Trump said, this is, it's called Memphis Bill, but this is going to relate to plenty of other cities. And look, no one, I don't think any sane person loves the idea of having troops and police officers all over the streets. You don't love it. The other morning, on Friday morning at 6.30 a.m., I was walking in New York City because I was walking over to Fox and Friends about 10 blocks in the morning down 6th Avenue, and there were cops everywhere. There were barricades everywhere. I'm talking literally, I don't know, six to 10 cops on every single corner, barricades everywhere. My entire walk to Fox, I didn't even think I was going to be able to get across the street because of it.
1:04:33It turns out that the reason it was there was that Trump actually went on Fox and Friends right after me. So there was a reason that all those cops are there, but you don't like, when you're walking around, yeah, it's nice to see cops every now and again, I think. Like you want proper policing, but we don't want our streets militarized, but they've, in some sense, they've given no choice. So would you rather it that, well, we're just going to stab a couple people on the light rail. Occasionally, some illegals are going to behead their bosses, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So Trump is being left, and this is what they'll call authoritarian.
1:05:00I mean, that's the irony. You idiots have destroyed so much of the fabric of a functioning society that you basically have created a situation where Trump is now going to try to do something about it because of what you caused, and you're going to call him authoritarian for it. There's a bit more. Trump is using the power of the federal government to stop bad things from happening. this from leading report breaking, President Trump threatens to withhold federal funds from New York following Kathy Hochul's shocking endorsement of Muslim socialist candidate Mamdami. So yes, Kathy Hochul, who's an utter buffoon and a really ridiculous leftist who was horrible on COVID and who's been horrible on the economy and the amount of people that are still moving to Florida, all of those things.
1:05:44And I don't think she's a Islamist the way I think Mamdami is, but she now sees the energy of the Democrat party. She's like, he's going to win. I better endorse him. So now she has endorsed him. Ironically, he's refusing to endorse her because he wants someone that's more radical than her. So good luck with that. Kathy, you will have to spend your retiring years at the Botox factory. A bit more on the dishonesty that leads to all of these things and how Trump is pushing back against it. This is from Truth Social. Today, I have the great honor of bringing a$15 billion defamation and libel lawsuit against the New York Times, one of the worst and most degenerate newspapers in the history of our country, becoming a virtual mouthpiece for the radical left Democrat party.
1:06:29I view it as the single largest illegal campaign contribution ever. Their endorsement of Kamala Harris was actually put dead center on the front page of the New York Times, something heretofore unheard of. The Times has engaged in decades-long method of lying about your favorite president, me, my family, business, America First Movement, MAGA, and our nation as a whole. I'm proud to hold this once-respected rag responsible, as we are doing with the fake news network, such as our successful litigation against George Stephan, Flopidopoulos, slash ABC Disney, and 60 Minutes CBS Paramount, who knew that they were falsely smearing me through a highly sophisticated system of document and visual alteration, which was, in effect, a malicious form of defamation, and thus settled for record amounts.
1:07:12They practice this long-term intent and pattern of abuse, which is both unacceptable and illegal. The New York Times has been allowed to freely lie, smear and defame me for far too long, and that stops now. The suit is being brought in the great state of Florida. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Make America great. Again, Phoenix, can we do a little decorating around here? Can you take that picture off the wall so I can show it to the audience for just a second? Look, before I show you this picture that we have hanging, and I'm very proud to have hanging in the wall of the studio. Does it come off the wall or?
1:07:39Yeah, it does come off the wall, okay. I don't like the idea of people being sued over speech, right? Like, again, we want to be as liberal in the good sense of liberal as possible when it comes to speech. The New York Times, however, has lied about so many things over and over. We know what 60 Minutes did with selectively editing things that at some point, perhaps legal action is the only thing you can do. But it's not just Donald Trump that the New York Times has spent an awful time lying about. Now, this from, I reference this often. It's one of my favorite things to the point. I was very upset when it first came out, but now I find it to be one of my favorite things ever.
1:08:19Sorry about the glare there. Let's see if we can do it that way. This is from, what's the date on that? June 9th, 2019. So over five years ago, the making of a YouTube radical, how algorithms are shifting everyone to the alt-right, basically making of a YouTube radical, algorithms of the alt-right. Look, there's a young Dave Rubin, that guy. Yeah, big, big fan of the alt-right. Oh, and who else do we have here? Well, we have Jordan Peterson. We have Nobel Prize winner for economics, Milton Friedman. He was huge with the alt-right. Ben Shapiro, of course, and everything else. And the entire article is about how YouTube was dragging people, in essence, alt-right, to turn them into Nazis, because yes, I wanted to turn people into Nazis.
1:08:58Ironically, at the end, they say, but YouTube fixed the algorithm, and the guy that they're using as the case study, he became a lefty. So when the things go their way, then it's okay. But yes, sorry, New York Times, you are quite literally not worth the paper that you are printed on. And 15 billion, that is a heck of a big, there's a lot of zeros there. All right, so let's try to end on a more positive note. What has happened here to Charlie is waking people up in an absolutely extraordinary way. And you can feel it, right? It is sticky. This is not going to be one of those 24-hour news cycle things.
1:09:30Something different is going on here and it is going to scale. It is obvious. Now, across the pond in Britain, they have had a major problem with many of the things that Charlie was very concerned about. Actually, I think my, I'm not going to read it, but I think my last text with Charlie not too long ago was about the, how disastrous things have become in the UK as it pertains to free speech and immigration and everything else. A guy by the name of Tommy Robinson, who I had on the show nine years ago, when everyone said he was a white supremacist, neo-Nazi and all of these things, he is, and he was no, none of those things.
1:10:03He just wanted to make sure that Britain would remain British. He led a Unite the Kingdom free speech rally where they estimate about 3 million, the true Brits, they showed up to defend their country, to defend their country not only from the illegal invasion of people who want to destroy their society, but also to defend their country from their ridiculous leaders like Keir Starmer who have facilitated it. Here's some of the footage. It's extraordinary.
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1:11:23Now, of course, then pictures of Charlie get shown and he was mentioned during several of the talks up there. Of course, the mainstream media is trying to make it seem like 100 ,000 people were there. It was definitely closer to two to three million people. And it's particularly good to see in a place like Britain where virtually every Sunday they have quite literal jihadists with Hamas flags and Hezbollah flags and ISIS flags roaming their streets. These are not people who care about Britain. They don't care about tea and crumpets or the Queen or anything else. They don't even watch Downton Abbey, which the movie, I think, part three is coming out in a week or two.
1:11:59They don't care about any of that. They want submission. So the good Brits are finally pushing back against it. And now to connect all of this together, to see how this stuff is scaling and how the mainstream media is losing control and online media is rising. Well, Elon Musk himself did a video call and talking to Tommy during the event. And he made a good point about why it is. What are the motives that lead the lefties to doing all of these things that destroy free societies? There might be a reason for it. You know, we hear so much about censorship being pushed by governments and global corporations and organisations.
1:12:36A lot of people don't understand why we're allowing mass uncontrolled immigration into all Western nations. Do you believe that there are powerful forces outside of elected officials, someone controlling governments, that are trying to control the flow of information, and how do we resist that pressure? Yeah, I think when you look at the behavior of organizations or people, you have to say, what is the incentive for these organizations? And frankly, there's a massive incentive on the left to import voters. So if they can't convince their nation to vote for them, they're going to import people from other nations to vote for them.
1:13:21This is a massive factor. And frankly, it's a strategy that will succeed if it is not stopped. That's probably true. That's probably true. And at the end, it's a game about power. And as our Democrats and the Labour Party, which in fact, that's their left party, as they've lost power over the years in the countries, what would you do to attain power again? Your ideas are bad. People like Charlie Kirk are waking up too many young people so they're realizing that the utter dependence on the state is not good, etc., etc., etc. What would you do? Is it completely out of the realm of reality that you might just import people, offer them a lot of shit so they become indentured servants to your party?
1:14:05Is that crazy? I don't think so. I don't think so. And here's a bit more from Elon as it pertains to which side actually is more violent. and then you see how much violence there is on the left with our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week and people on the left celebrating it openly the left is the party of murder and celebrating murder
1:14:37I mean let that sink in for a minute That's who we're dealing with here. That is who we're dealing with. Whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die. You either fight back or you die. And that's the truth. Violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you die. Look, I don't know when the point, I don't know when exactly the point is that we're going to have to start thinking about things in those so specific of framing. But maybe it's now. Maybe it's now. Maybe for 10 years we have been told all of these horrible things about us. Maybe we have allowed them to radicalize such a huge amount of young people that 25 % of left-leaning kids now believe political violence is okay.
1:15:35and then what would you do? Well, I think we have the answer to some of that. And now how many more of them are out there? How many more of them want to be copycats? Where is the voices on the left? Let's put aside the voices on the left who are just kind of being quiet right now. And okay, so fine. It's a bunch of TikTokers that are saying crazy things in a lot of ways, but where are just the good voices on the left that don't have to qualify? I didn't agree with Charlie, but you can't kill people. How about no more of this bullshit? How about, you know what, an honest assessment, an honest assessment.
1:16:07You know what? Maybe we have to think about what we've done here. That's why in the video that we showed you yesterday when I was on Piers Morgan on Friday and my former boss, Cenk Uygur, who has said the most horrific things about Donald Trump, his supporters, Charlie, Nazis, fascists, all of those things, saying literally in a video that Charlie wanted to be a martyr. I wasn't going to let him get away with it because he's basically calling for peace now. And it's like, okay, we would all like peace. We would all like to return back to an America where we could agree to disagree and all of those things.
1:16:37But you can only come back in now if you look in a mirror. And I understand why Cenk wouldn't want to look in a mirror. And it's not just because of the video titles, right? Okay. Okay. One funny thing today. You get it. You get it. So is there an opportunity now where the wide tent to widen because more and more people will be disaffected by the craziness of the left? Sure. But do we you have to be a little wary of welcoming them. I think that's legit. You know, Charlie and I used to joke about that. When I was coming around to his positions, he was always like, Dave, I just don't know. Well, you know, like here, I'm bringing a liberal in.
1:17:11Like, I don't know, it could work, turn against me or something like that. And it was like, so we, now I'm in Charlie's shoes and we have to be wary of the people. But if someone's gonna have an honest moment, and there are a lot of people, we're seeing a lot of videos of this from young people waking up on TikTok, et cetera, that are like, you know what? Wow, I was deep in this thing and this is no good. and I will not do it anymore. Well, then we can win in the best sense of how you would win in a free society, which is just bringing more people to our side because of good ideas. Let's end the show with one more video of JD Vance talking about how he will try to honor Charlie's legacy.
1:17:46People from the Turning Points family, a lot of people from Charlie's family. And she said to me that Charlie never raised his voice, that he never cussed at her, that he was never cross or mean-spirited to her. And look, I'm a husband. I'm proud of being a husband. I think that on the great balance of things that I'm a pretty good husband, but I can never say that I was never unpleasant with my wife. I can never say that I've never raised my voice to my wife. Like most husbands, even the good ones, were sometimes imperfect. And I took from that moment that I needed to be a better husband and I needed to be a better father.
1:18:23because of all these moments that I shared just in the last few days, the books that I've read to my kids, going up to their bedroom and kissing them and hugging them before bed, I just realized that all of these moments that I get to have, Charlie is not able to have them anymore. And Charlie's kids and his beautiful wife are not able to have them anymore. And maybe the best way that I can contribute and the best way that I can honor my dear friend is to be the best husband that I can be, to be the kind of husband to my wife that he was to his. We talked all the time about the most important thing you could do is not vote for a particular candidate.
1:19:03It was to become, if you were a young man, a husband and a father. He talked about the joy that came from fatherhood, the joy that came from raising a family and being part of their growth and their development and all the incredible things that happen when you get to be a husband and father and that is the way that I'm going to honor my friend is to be the very best at that most important job that I can be. It's important and Erica asked me this to make sure that his movement the movement that Charlie started has to keep going. You know I actually had the same thought as JD last night when I was reading a book to the boys before bed because because I can't get the Charlie thing out of my head it's like locked in it's like lodged in my brain right now and I actually had the same thought as I was reading them the book last night.
1:19:50We were doing a book about Autumn. I thought Charlie's not going to be able to do this. That's the human part. And I fully believe JD on that. He didn't make that all about it. Yeah, he did a couple hours on the show and there was the political stuff and there was the don't play the whataboutism with the two sides and all that. But that's the way it ultimately becomes sticky. How does something really become sticky now? Well, you can't keep something in the news cycle all the time. You just can't. It's not how the algorithms work. It's not how any of our brains work. It's not how the scrolling works.
1:20:18How does something become sticky? Well, the spirit that JD just described right there, if a whole bunch of people could become better fathers, a whole bunch of people could become better people, well, then we could scale that up to the political side, right? So don't look for all of the answers from the political people right now. We talk about politics. It's important. It absolutely is. But the main takeaway might be that if we take a little bit of what Charlie did as a man and we incorporate that into our lives that we can fix this thing to whatever extent it can still get better that is our show for today i thank you guys for watching we've got a post game show in 30 seconds rubin report.locals.com and reminder if you want to join us in australia dave rubin.com slash events thanks for watching everybody see you tomorrow get comfortable bring the best lives that utah has to offer
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1:22:02I want to be remembered for courage, for my faith. That would be the most important thing. The most important thing is my faith.
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks about "The View's" Whoopi Goldberg looking visibly rattled after Charlie Kirk's assassination; Destiny shocking his co-panelists on "Piers Morgan Uncensored" with his disgusting reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder; JD Vance's blunt response to a recent YouGov poll showing that liberals are far more supportive of political violence; Joe Borelli getting CNN's Abby Phillip to go silent after reading her the simple facts of how supportive liberals are of political violence; FBI Director Kash Patel explaining to Fox News' Sean Hannity the latest evidence of Tyler Robinson's true motivation for assassinating Charlie Kirk; a Chicago Fatburger restaurant owner who's publicly thanking a concealed carrying customer for saving her business from teenage criminals; Elon Musk's stark warning for Tommy Robinson and the attendees of the "Unite the Kingdom" rally; and much more.
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