New Proof of Ilhan Omar's $5M Winery Fraud Just Went Viral

6 Feb 2026 · 49 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Friday Roundtable covering viral “citizen journalism” clips and political/cultural hypocrisy, plus school/ICE protests, language wars in California schools, and celebrity/faith moments.

Guests

Alex Stein (host of After Hours with Alex Stein; works for Turning Point; does campus Q&As/debates). Viva Frei (host of Recovering Former Litigator!; former law/politics commentator; travels for events; discusses journalism methods and security concerns).

Key claims

  • Ilhan Omar winery story: a viral visit alleges Omar’s custom-crush winery setup is connected to fraud; mentions a prior lawsuit and a claim of “$300,000” investment misrepresentation and that the wine is hard to find; argues “plausible viability” via husband-linked wealth.
  • Billie Eilish: she allegedly promotes “no human is illegal on stolen land” while being a Malibu property owner; a GB News segment shows a reporter seeking access, framed as hypocrisy.
  • Anti-ICE school rallies: clips are portrayed as indoctrination/violence-desensitization.
  • “Homeless” vs “unhoused”: Pajaro Valley school board VP Joy Flynn pushes “unhoused,” criticized as word-policing.

Notable examples

Angela Rose at “Suite B”/custom crush; Billie Eilish Malibu driveway confrontation; Jelly Roll’s faith message at the Grammys; kids rallying against ICE; Joy Flynn “unhoused” remark; Austin Appleby’s 4-hour swim rescue story.

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Discussing El Salvador's Transformation

1:20 to 4:48

The hosts share their experiences and thoughts on safety in El Salvador.

“And joining me are two Rubin Report veterans, the host of After Hours with Alex Stein.”

Citizen Journalism vs. Mainstream Media

4:48 to 12:31

The conversation shifts to the rise of citizen journalism and its impact on traditional media.

“I mean, I was there about 12 or 13 years ago and true third world had to have armed security with us everywhere.”

Hypocrisy in Celebrity Activism

12:37 to 14:01

Discussion about Billie Eilish's comments on land ownership and the hypocrisy of celebrities.

“So this is a guy by the name of Ben Leo.”

Hypocrisy at the Grammys

14:01 to 16:07

Discussion on the hypocrisy of celebrity culture and their stances on issues.

“sense, the height of the absurdity, right?”

Jelly Roll's Powerful Message

16:24 to 20:00

Analysis of Jelly Roll's speech at the Grammys and its impact.

“Well, let me show you a guy who maybe looks weird, but actually was probably the only counter voice to all of the lunacy at the Grammys.”

Youth Activism and Indoctrination

20:00 to 24:52

Critique of youth protests against ICE and the implications of indoctrination.

“was the anti-ice rhetoric and Justin Bieber with the ice out thing and Bad Bunny and Billie Eilish and all of these absolute clowns.”

Political Correctness in Language

24:56 to 28:00

Discussion on the controversy over the term 'homeless' and political correctness.

“So it's not just that the celebrities are saying stupid things and we're focusing on it too much.”

Discussion on Ilhan Omar's Controversy

28:00 to 28:45

A deep dive into the complexities surrounding Ilhan Omar's statements and actions.

“Alex, you got to show up at this board meeting and explain that to her.”

Trump's Future and Political Landscape

28:45 to 31:18

Exploration of Donald Trump's potential successors and the current political climate.

“All right, enough of these crazy people.”

Assessing JD Vance's Role in Politics

31:18 to 33:54

Analyzing JD Vance's position and potential in the upcoming political races.

“I want to know who else is in your top three right there.”
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Charlie Kirk and Political Aspirations

33:54 to 36:05

A discussion on the political potential of Charlie Kirk and implications for future elections.

“when it comes to the Trump administration, I love Donald Trump, but I think if the midterms go south, then a lot of people are going to lose their jobs.”

Nicki Minaj Critiques Gavin Newsom

36:05 to 38:48

Nicki Minaj's take on Gavin Newsom's political actions and their implications.

“It's like I agree with your prescription on the Democrats.”

Nicki Minaj Critiques Gavin Newsom

40:10 to 40:47

Nicki Minaj's take on Gavin Newsom's political actions and their implications.

“can now reference all your past conversations, every thought, question, idea you've ever shared.”

Heroic Rescue Story of Austin Appleby

40:57 to 42:05

An inspiring story of a young boy's bravery in saving his family from the ocean.

“because I thought this was just heartwarming.”

Incredible Survival Story of a Young Boy

42:05 to 44:10

Learn about a remarkable survival story that highlights the resilience of the human spirit.

“According to the AP, the family drifted nine miles from Quindaloo and spent 10 hours in the water.”

This Week on the Internet Begins

44:11 to 45:06

The hosts introduce a new segment covering recent internet happenings.

“But instead, we are going to launch a new segment right now.”

Billie Eilish and Land Claims

45:07 to 45:38

Discussion on Billie Eilish's mansion and the land claims by the Tongva tribe.

“Because that was her album and he hit his wife with a boot.”

Baldness and Hair Transplants

45:39 to 46:38

Hosts discuss baldness, hair transplants, and the societal perceptions of hair.

“he won the fight lost his toupee won the fight yes no what i say i say this is you know maybe as a man with hair that I would, I don't think I would care if I were bald.”

Hollywood, Wokeness, and Video Games

46:39 to 48:58

Exploration of how wokeness has influenced Hollywood and video games today.

“And then the woman behind me is like, can you stop doing that?”
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1:12All right, guys, it's Friday, February 6th, 2026. I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. It's time for another Friday Roundtable Extravaganza. And joining me are two Rubin Report veterans, the host of After Hours with Alex Stein. Alex Stein and the host of Recovering Former Litigator! From Law and Politics and Beyond, viva fray. Guys, I sense that if people want a dry, boring political program, they should probably tune out now. You are jazzed and ready to go. And before I do anything else, Alex, I mostly want to congratulate you. Last time you were on the show, you were completely unemployed.

1:50You had no money. You had nothing. You had a cat. You don't eat meat. It was very depressing. but apparently you have a job again and I'm very happy for you. I do. And, you know, I get to work for Turning Point as well. You know, I represent Turning Point and we're going on a big tour, 12 schools this semester, starting with Texas Tech. We're going to University of Michigan. We're going to all over the country. So luckily Turning Point's been there for me as well. Wow. And are you going to do that Charlie style, just get into it with, with Q and A's with the kids and all that, or are you doing something else?

2:19No. I mean, last semester we did the Q and A's all indoors, But this semester, we're going back out there, like in the student union or wherever we set up the tent. You know, it's always a different location. And we're going to just, you know, pick the mic. Anybody that wants to debate is going to debate. So we're going to try to honor Charlie's legacy. I mean, I'm obviously not as good as Charlie. I'm Charlie Kurt. I'm the bad version of Charlie. But it's going to be fun. It's going to be exciting. And, you know, I'm not worried about my safety. We're going to have plenty of security. But I do think it's going to be something weird could happen.

2:49People are very desensitized to violence right now. Well, speaking of safety, Viva, I saw you last week in El Salvador. You were very concerned before we got there about our security. But then we got there, and man, it was safe. Not only was it safe, we went to dinner. My wallet was on the floor. Someone returned it to me at dinner. Look, everything's good when you get home safe. It's still, I say, still a Central American country. It's very disconcerting when you don't actually speak the language of the country. And to my shock, nobody spoke French there. So French wasn't going to get me out of not being able to communicate.

3:23No, it was safe. It was beautiful. You know, I had a bit of a, not a hiccup, but a delay coming back where I almost missed the plane because of a miscommunication in terms of misreading my visa. But I got home and, you know, it was beautiful. And it was great seeing you and the food flipping delicious. Wait, Dave, both of you guys know that I love Big Booty Latinas. Now I feel excluded. I cannot believe that I didn't get invited to El Salvador. And I mean, come on, guys. That's rude. There definitely were some of them down there. And there were a lot of guys on corners with big guns keeping the city safe.

3:55And it was nice to be, even though in some sense you kind of don't, you know, you don't want to see guys with big, heavy, you know, machine guns on the streets. On the other hand, I've been to a lot of Democrat cities now where you don't feel safe anywhere. And truly, and then we'll move on. I mean, Viva, did you feel unsafe at any given moment? We were out late night. We were wandering around during the day. I mean, it was safe and clean and on the way up. For sure. It had, you know, the lingering effects of the crime ridden era where, you know, the chicken wire and all the stuff. But no, look, you kind of feel better when it's to say to some extent it's under martial law.

4:28You feel better when it's known government police enforcement agencies as opposed to rogue criminals. But yeah, it was surprising and it was great to finally see what the transformation of El Salvador has been in real time. I didn't have the before and after like you did. I just had the after, but before it was the murder capital of the world and now it's sort of the innovation capital of the world. Yeah, it's wild. I mean, I was there about 12 or 13 years ago and true third world had to have armed security with us everywhere. Barely could walk around. All right, but let's move on. There's a lot going on.

4:56We're going to cover all sorts of stuff here. But I thought this first story that I want to cover is perfect for you guys because citizen journalism, people walking around with this little device in their pocket, has completely, absolutely overtaken mainstream media at this point. And I want to start with this. This is a conservative commentator. Her name is Angela Rose. She went to visit Ilhan Omar's winery, and you're not going to believe what happened. So let's see, this is Suite B again. That is the address where Ilhan Omar's winery is. You can see that a different winery is here, punch down cellars.

5:34What does this note say? E Street Crew does not make wine here. They were a client many years ago and have seized operation. Their operating address is linked to this address like all other client wineries because of state and federal filings. So I wonder what else they have to show for it. What do you think about that? I think they're just trying to keep as much distance between them and their business and Ilan Omar's as much as possible. Yeah. You guys just do a little more research before. Well, yeah, that's what we're kind of doing right now. Would you be so kind of to tell us about it? Do you know what this place is?

6:10No, that's why we came back here. It's a custom crush place. Every bunch of people use it. Okay. Right? So it's like renting instead of owning. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I see. Guys, let's put aside the fact that Ilhan married her brother to commit federal immigration fraud for just a moment. Viva, I've been to a lot of wineries. I've never seen one so humble in nature. Well, do a little research. Even if the excuse is that they're sort of like the generic manufacturing center and you can license out your own branded bottles, then they still have something to do with Estée Cru LLC, you know, the limited liability company.

6:47What I wondered, did it say seized or ceased? And it was sort of like the transcription error in that video, because it would be funny if they actually used the word seized because they all went to the Leering Center to get their winery education. You know, when you discover one element of fraud in a person and they say past is prologue, but if it's happened once, it's happened more than once. And you have this winery that it was involved in a lawsuit that was reported on in 2024, where they took$300 ,000 from a guy and said, we're going to put it in a winery and you're going to get five times return on your money.

7:18and the guy was lucky to get his money back after some lawsuits because they, you know, potentially fraudulently misrepresented what the business would be. I mean, they seem to be totally defunct. How it's worth millions of dollars on a spreadsheet, a balance sheet, you know, boggles the mind. Yeah, Sain, you can't buy this wine anywhere. Now it's defunct or never existed or something, something, but you can't buy it anywhere. No one that I know has seen a bottle of this wine anywhere. She went from basically being worth under 100 grand when she came into Congress to now being worth over 30 million.

7:50They're saying a lot of it has to do with the husband. But to the backdrop of some of the Somali fraud in Minnesota, I'm going to say something stinks in Somaliland. No, Somaliland's the good guys in regular Somalia. Well, I mean, to be honest, I would think that a woman that is, you know, if she practices Islam, she's a practicing Muslim, selling alcohol is haram. So when she dies, she's not going to get her 72 virgin brothers in heaven. so uh she needs to really check herself before she wrecks herself and to be honest that guy looked guilty to me the way that he approached them out there it seems like i think viva's right like it seems like there is still a connection there because what would he have to be so aggressive with people filming like he knows that she's an influential person and people are interested in the story so he seemed guilty to me it's it's good advertising like why would he not want people putting that custom place on on blast now if you want to get your own custom great crushed grapes you know where to go.

8:45It's called, what was it called? Punchdown, which is ironic. Right. In essence, right. If the argument is, hey, we white label so anyone can make their own wine. It's like, hey, come on down. Let's roll. But he doesn't seem that enthused. What do you guys broadly think about what's happening here? You know, it really got put on steroids with Nick Shirley, this idea. And Alex, you've been out there doing these things forever. But like that the guy with the camera, or in this case, the girl with the camera is just doing way better stuff than mainstream media. And they are so far behind at this point.

9:16What do you think, Viva? It is amazing. I mean, there's the risk of capturing the wrong thing or exposing people's money source from fraud and, you know, eventually getting punched or worse. I mean, Nick definitely has security things. Well, and, you know, Nick did great work. And then you know what's going to happen, and I called it with Nick Shirley, is that they're going to nitpick and find one or two mistakes to try to discredit everything. And then when that doesn't work, they're going to try to smear the individual. There's something to be said about getting on your feet and going on location, going to the source documents.

9:49And it is the real journalism that MSM used to do back in the day, but they're not doing it right now. And the results that it yields are amazing. And it's accessible to everybody because it's out there. You just have to scratch a little bit to find it. But the fact that her husband is worth that much money, that's part and parcel of the corruption. It doesn't go like Ilhan Omar is going to make the tens of millions. They do the one step away so that there's plausible viability. That's how the influence game works. Right. Someone that's gone from under 100 grand to 30 million in about five years.

10:17It's like, you got to be on Instagram like Cardone showing up on my feed every minute telling people how to make some money. But Stein, you've been doing these things forever. You get out there. We've played that video of you with the, where were you, with the trans activist like gets in your face and goes flying out of the screen. You've just gotten in these people's faces forever. Why isn't mainstream media doing this? Why didn't someone from CNN be like, you know, we've heard this story about Ilhan. Maybe we should send somebody over there. Well, I mean, you're exactly right. I mean, if you look at it, the power that we hold with just having a camera phone is more powerful than, you know, dare I say, Fox News or any, you know, CBS or ABC.

10:55I'm just saying, thinking of any media company, they're probably a little too highfalutin to actually go out there and really expose these people. because, you know, it's like a person that has nothing to lose. A citizen journalist is the most dangerous person. And because these people are worried about losing their jobs or, you know, covering the story wrong, it makes them have to really kind of hesitate when they actually have a lead or a big story. So Nick Shirley is able to break a story because he's not owned by anybody and he has total freedom. And that's what it really comes down to, I think, is people can just go out there and do it.

11:24They don't have a boss telling them not to. They don't have to fill out an expense report. And it just makes the methodology of exposing these people a lot easier because look, you just said it best at that Drag Queen Story Hour. All I did was have a camera phone and that video got tens of millions of views. So it really doesn't take much other than courage to go expose this stuff. Do you owe back taxes or haven't even filed in years? Now's the time to resolve your tax issues. With the national debate around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is pushing back by becoming more aggressive than ever.

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13:28well according to the uh the driveway billy does believe in borders she believes in massive gates keeping people out a couple of cameras up there as well the lights are on so somebody must be home let us in please billy we are here because this is stolen land billy and we think we should be given access to your quite lovely three million dollar mansion i mean this is what they hate the most right guys like we've always exposed their hypocrisy or at least hollywood has always been hypocritical in some sense. But to me, what happened at the Grammys on Sunday was, in some sense, the height of the absurdity, right?

14:04You guys with your armed guards in there, you have your walls and you've got your snipers at the red carpet and everything else. Viva, she's not going to give up that house, is she? Well, from what I heard, there's a LA-based law firm, Sinai Law, that offered pro bono to help the native tribe that owns the unceded land take back that home that is built on stolen land, the sort of the stolen fruits of the tree. But no, the hypocrisy is so in your face. The only people who don't really appreciate it are probably still watching the Grammys. You know, ticket only, red carpet gala, the snootiest of the snooties, lecturing the rest of the world while they have their little ivory towers to say, let everybody in.

14:44I don't believe in borders. And, you know, ICE shouldn't be doing anything, but nobody's coming onto my property. You've got cameras, guns, and you'll be arrested. You know, it's just so obvious. I don't understand why people are still giving these people any form of celebrity status, you know, weight in society. But I think those days are coming to an end. Stein, you've slimmed down a bit over the years. Why don't you scale that fence? What are you doing? You know, I don't want to go to jail. I'm trying to stay out this time. But I'll just say this when it comes to Billie Eilish. I don't think she has an independent thought in her head.

15:18I think somebody told her to probably go and say that. And when you look at the way that these people dress at the Grammys, I liked it when Katy Perry, I don't like her politics when she wore a hamburger at that award show. Like, I think there is kind of this angle where you can dress funny and it's, you know, kind of entertaining. But Billie Eilish is doing the opposite. Like you hear about looks maxing. They're doing weird maxing. Like they want to be as weird as possible for some reason. And I guess it's to get attention. And I like to get attention. But it's just the wrong way to get it. So for her to go and virtue signal about stolen land, it just makes me want to puke.

15:48And I don't even think she had that thought independently. Like I said, I really think somebody probably told her to say that. I'm Serena Williams, and I'm healthier on Roe. I've lost 34 pounds in a year with GLP-1's diet and exercise. On Roe, you can access GLP-1 options, including the first FDA-approved GLP-1 pill for weight loss. Go to roe.co slash journey to see if you qualify. 14 to 20 % average weight loss in one year in non-diabetics with obesity or overweight with a weight-related medical condition versus 2.2 % to 3.1 % in placebo arm. RX only. To stay informed about serious side effects, go to row.co slash safety.

16:24Well, let me show you a guy who maybe looks weird, but actually was probably the only counter voice to all of the lunacy at the Grammys. This is Jelly Roll. I know they're going to try to kick me off here, so just let me try to get this out. First of all, Jesus, I hear you, and I am listening, Lord. I am listening, Lord. Second of all, I want to thank my beautiful wife. I would have never changed my life without you. I'd have ended up dead or in jail. I'd have killed myself if it wasn't for you and Jesus. I thank you for that. I thank you for my label, Broken Bow. Country Radio, baby. What's up, y 'all?

16:56Oh, Republic John Manili, we did it, baby. There was a time in my life, y 'all, that I was broken. That's why I wrote this album. I didn't think I had a chance, y 'all. There was days that I thought the darkest things. I was a horrible human. There was a moment in my life that all I had was a Bible this big and a radio the same size in a six by eight foot cell. And I believe that those two things could change my life. I believe that music had the power to change my life and God had the power to change my life. And I want to tell y 'all right now, Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party.

17:29Jesus is not owned by no music label. Jesus is Jesus. And anybody can have a relationship with him. I love you, Lord. I mean, Viva, putting aside the tattoos and whatever, the guy's been through some stuff, obviously. The truth is, mea culpa, I did not know who he was a week ago. I kind of made a joke about it on my show. My guy said, oh, you got to check out this jelly roll guy. I mean, the passion that he has and the truth or the path that he's sharing at a place like that, you have to kind of applaud it. A thousand percent. I was just, I'll make a joke. I was surprised to not see the likes of Billie Eilish and, you know, I can't think of any other of these celebrities bursting into flames at the idea of an actual God setting a higher moral order that none of them are living by, or very few of them.

18:20No, Jelly Roll's amazing. I mean, I've known him for a couple, known of him for a couple of years. He's been, he's lost, by the way, 300 pounds over the last two years. So if you didn't know who he was, you know, before, you wouldn't recognize him. But when I first heard that, I'm like, oh, how do I interpret this? Is it someone on the left telling the right that it's not only conservatives that hold on Jesus, or is it someone on the right trying to invite people on the left? Or is it someone just saying, left or right, you can find some form of unification, salvation in God? The message was beautiful.

18:52And, you know, that's why you had the audience cheering, even though I think half of them were probably rolling their eyes because of the idea of an actual God, an actual morality, an actual natural law blows their mind. But the other half, you know, certainly appreciated what he had to say. Alex is the irony here that you know in some sense we don't want to hear these messages from people when the messages go the other way but in this case he was actually directly connecting his personal journey to his music so it actually was applicable to say that up there. Yeah. And on top of that, like, obviously I liked how he brought up his faith.

19:26He talked about Jesus, but I like the point that he made that it's both sides. You know, it doesn't matter about political parties because I really do think other than a few topics, most of us agree on a lot of things. Like really, most of the people are in the middle, like people aren't usually too far right or far left. So having a message like that, encouraging both sides, I think that was, you know, I thought that was special because in a place like that, his counter signal, you know, could have been great or it could have been really bad for him. and in my opinion, it went really well and it's a super viral moment.

19:55So, you know, good on Jelly Roll for speaking his mind and not being afraid. So, of course, the main thing at the Grammys was the anti-ice rhetoric and Justin Bieber with the ice out thing and Bad Bunny and Billie Eilish and all of these absolute clowns. And Viva, you kind of alluded to this. In some sense, it's like, why do we care about any of this stuff? I always say the answer to that is because politics is downstream from culture, as Andrew Breitbart famously said. And I want to show you two videos here. they're muted so we can talk over them. But this is just two videos out of hundreds that have been going across the country of kids at public schools who are rallying against ICE.

20:32And the rallies are, let's say, less than, I don't know, thoughtful. Take a look. Well, an excuse, an excuse for violence. That looks fun. There's a big, beautiful butt for you or whatever it is that you like there. That looks fun to me. Guys, if I had any excuse to, you know, get out of class early, I would have put on a dress to get out of class early. So I don't, I mean, I'm empathetic to these kids having a good time. I would do anything to get the hell out of math class. Alex, I think that's actually the perfect point there. They have no idea what they are doing out there other than everyone's doing it.

21:09And when you were in high school, you, if someone pulled a fire alarm, it was the best day you could possibly have. So why not grab a bottle of what, well, Prime is in plastic. Give me something in glass that the kids are drinking now. Snapple. Snapple. Snapple. Is that hot with the kids now? The diet iced tea. And chuck it and see if you crack somebody's skull in the name of racial justice or something, Viva? Well, I would be weary about whether or not these videos are actually what they are represented as being. But we do know that these public schools were letting kids out. Oh, there's tons of them.

21:40I know there's tons. There's tons. The only thing is, you know, not getting something, you know, sometimes they swap things in that weren't, you know, necessarily of that school on ice protest. First of all, I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that he was throwing the laptop in the name of anti-ice rhetoric. Well, absolutely. Down with ice and down with homework. We took our third kid out of public school for a number of reasons. But this was sort of one of them. Even in a good school in Florida, you can see the indoctrination starts early. um when if i had a kid that was holding up pancarts whatever those things are you know the banners because the teachers were telling them to protest ice that kid would have been out of that school that afternoon they this is how you understand they get to the indoctrination of kids when they're kids they take them from their parents and they teach them the lessons or a lesson that only the parent should have the moral authority of teaching a kid and you know this is the number one good reason why you should pull your kids out of public schools if this is the type of crap that's going on there.

22:36Alex, is the scary part for as loony as the left has gone over the last 10 years and as how wacky as the Democrat Party has gone, now you're, like, when you see kids like that, they have no memory of a pre-internet world. Like, they're just growing up in all of this craziness. And what could they be in 10 years? You know, Dave, there's these viral videos where they ask people a year they were born. And if it starts with the 19, they show, like, a dinosaur. And it makes me feel really bad. You see these videos. Yeah, I'm saying you've probably seen it. It's a new editing trend and it watches it.

23:08It makes me sick. But you're exactly right. Like these kids have never lived where they had a landline phone. And I think the world was a better place. I'm not trying to sound like uncle grandpa, but the world was a better place. We didn't all have a computer in our pocket. So these kids never got to experience that. And on top of that, when it comes to like the violence, you see how crazy they're acting. This younger generation, they're totally desensitized to it. I feel like their only option right now is to almost be violent. violent, whether it's violent towards each other or violence towards people who they think their enemy is.

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23:37So that's the kind of scary thing that I think about the future is these people are totally desensitized. They've watched everything. They can find everything on their phone. And now it's not necessarily about morals. It's that they think that violence is just acceptable in this day and age. Right. We didn't have laptops back in our day in high school. If you wanted to go out and protest, you had to throw a rock at somebody. You know what I mean? Like that was better. It was a better time. They can freeze accounts, shut off cards, lock people out of their own money overnight. Banks don't protect freedom.

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25:22On so many different levels. One thing I would like to see updated is the word homeless to unhoused.

25:41I'm not done. I just don't want Mr. Berman for this to be on him. That's the way our state of California, that's the language that they use. And that's their reporting. That doesn't mean that's the language we have to use. I'm just making a statement. I just want to make sure that - Joy Flynn there, the Pajaro Verde School Board Vice President, she sort of represents everything that's wrong with all of this stuff. The quibble about the words, I'm talking, doesn't matter what they say. it's a little bit of everything there for you, Alex, which again, you may watch that and go, okay, that's just one little school board here.

26:25But then when you see all these videos, the kids going crazy, it's not. You know, I mean, well, what's the term we always use? Woke ideology, but like, that is the wokest crap I've ever seen in my life. And you know, the sad part about it is the homeless community is made up of vets and made up of American citizens. But if I'm an illegal immigrant, I'm going to get a free hotel room in Manhattan. So, you know, if she really actually cared about this, she would see that this system is a two-tiered justice system or a two-tiered social justice system that really affects illegal immigrants more than affects American citizens.

26:56And, you know, I'll say this. I'm a little empathetic to her because I could tell that she was getting emotional, not just because of that word, but she probably struggled. She might have been homeless at some point in her life, but that still doesn't give her an excuse to be retarded. So that's why I think, you know, it's really sad to hear her say that. I've been sitting here thinking, do I get to call this woman retarded? And I was going to say, well, I'll go with politically retarded or political retardation. It's absolute political retardation because she literally doesn't understand what she's saying, but saying it because of how it makes her feel.

27:26My initial response to everybody who says, I personally find it offensive, too effing bad, but I don't care. Now let's go in to find out why you think the word homeless has some sort of inherent intrinsic negative connotation to it. And unhoused logically means you have a house, but you're not in it. Homeless means you don't have a house. And it's not an offensive term any more than illegal alien is, but you can weaponize any term. And then in three years from now, you're going to say unhoused is offensive. We need to call them housed, but they don't have a house. So now we're going to find someone's house to give it to them.

27:56It's political retardation. You were literally saying what I was writing down as I was writing it. It just makes no sense. Like, even if you grant her every bit of empathy and she's a great human and doing good stuff and everything else, that they've whittled words into meaning things that they don't mean just so that they can be offended by one phrase or another that inherently is not more offensive than any other phrase. Alex, you got to show up at this board meeting and explain that to her. What are you doing? I know you said Perjaro Valley, California. I need to go there right now. I'll make her have an aneurysm if I get in there.

28:33You know, I'm going to bring my tuck friendly bathing suit. I'll bring a cast of characters in there. She would actually, I'm not even kidding. I think she would have a brain aneurysm and pass out. But I need to make him a visit next time I'm in California. All right, enough of these crazy people. Let's turn to a sane person I am talking about, our president, Donald Trump, who's trying his damnedest year into this thing to right this country while everybody's going after him. But he will not be here forever. And he did a sit down with NBC News a couple of days ago and was asked, what might come post-Trump?

29:04You endorsed in the 2028 presidential primary. I hadn't even thought of it, but probably, yeah. I mean, I'd be inclined to. I have great people. We have a great bench. We have a lot of people. But yeah, I think so. You've suggested that J.D. Vance, Vice President J.D. Vance, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio would be a tough ticket to beat. Who should be at the top of that ticket? Well, I don't want to get into this. We have three years to go. I don't want to, you know, I have two people that are doing a great job. I don't want to have an argument with or I don't want to use the word fight. It wouldn't be a fight.

29:38But look, J.D. is fantastic and Marco is fantastic. I do think this, the combination of J.D. and Marco would be very hard to be beaten, I think. But you never know in politics, right? They say in the age of Trump, you never know. Viva, I just don't think we're ever going to have a politician as honest as this guy ever again. I think that for as much as many of us have come around on him, I just think we still don't realize like his ability to everything he said there. I actually believe to be true. He likes them both. He thinks they'd both be good. I think he'd be happy either way with either one at the top of the ticket.

30:13He doesn't want to instigate a fight. He kind of tells the interviewer sort of a stupid question because we're three years away. It's just like it's all good. Well, first of all, he's also right in terms of not wanting to undermine his current VP, J.D. Vance. Now, things can happen in the future and, you know, J.D. can make his own decision in the future. I'll say one thing. I get a little bit of flack online because I'm critical of the administration, but only in the sense of trying to make it better and make them make the right decision, you know, the best decisions possible and let them know what the voice of the people are still thinking.

30:45Donald Trump is the best president in my lifetime, hands down. And, you know, top three in the history of these United States of America is not perfect. Administrations are never perfect. You deal with massive amounts of people that you're working with. But he is an individual as a president is the president at the time needed. And he speaks directly. He speaks honestly, sometimes too honestly. But there's no such thing as too much honesty. And he's amazing. He dealt with that question perfectly. And he's right. Between J.D. and Marco Rubio, you know, I like J.D. I also like Marco, who has risen to the occasion in this second term.

31:17You got two great candidates for 2020. I want to know who else is in your top three right there. I assume you have George Washington. The guy did, you know, put down the mantle of running the military and the government at the exact same time. That's pretty good. First president. I'll assume he's in there. Am I right? George Washington, Abe Lincoln, but although Abe, you know, had his foibles as well. And then contemporary presidents, Ronald Reagan, I think he also has his issues. But in my lifetime, I'm only in 47. It's it's hands down Trump. Alex, you see what he did right there? He's always been pissed that Lincoln freed the slaves.

31:48And that was his subtle way of saying it. Alex, go. No, he's the habeas corpus. Habeas corpus stuff. Well, you know, I think Trump did say something, though, that it resonated with me that there's no guarantee, even though Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance would be a hard ticket to beat in McKinney, you know, right near me, just north of me, a district that was 98 percent Trump voters just elected in a fill in race for state senator, a Democratic candidate. it. And a lot of people are going to underestimate Gavin Newsom or AOC, but the people that are blaming this loss are saying that the base is not energized.

32:23So it's very important that J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio start laying the groundwork because they need to energize the base. And nobody energizes the base better than Donald Trump. So that's what it comes down to. You're exactly right. He's not going to be here in 2028, or maybe he does run as vice president and gets to do a little loop and swoop and become the president again. That would be kind of funny and cool. But at the end of the day, we need to actually take this serious because I don't want President Gavin Newsom sleeping with the staffers' wives, and I don't want President AOC either. So we really need to take this as a serious wake-up call, especially with the midterms coming up in less of a year.

32:56Yeah, I think that's totally right. And also, look, as he pointed out, the bench is pretty deep. I mean, these are competent people in his administration. And obviously, I would vote for it with either one of them at the top and either one of them at BP. But let's continue with JD for a moment, because I thought this was interesting from CBS. Trump anti-fraud task force targeting California and more states to be led by JD Vance sources say, Alex, it seems to me to, you know, as we're all talking about fraud, kind of secondary to the immigration and deportation thing, it seems like he's giving JD a real opportunity here.

33:28Like if you can go in and be the czar, right? Kamala was the border czar, big failure there. But if you can be the czar to root out some of this corruption, that's quite a gift to hand you if you're going to run in three years from now. Yeah, no, you're exactly right. Like he's giving him the opportunity to basically be the quarterback of the team, you know, even though Trump's a real quarterback. I guess Trump's the owner and he's given J.D. Vance the ability to be the quarterback. But, you know, like I said, when it comes to the Trump administration, I love Donald Trump, but I think if the midterms go south, then a lot of people are going to lose their jobs.

34:01Not J.D. Vance, obviously, but it's just really important and the J.D. Vance starts stacking up wins now so that the voters are energized to support him because it's his position to lose. And I think he's on the fast track to be the president. But with the real sad tragedy in all this is I think Charlie Kirk was a dark horse candidate to be involved somehow. And I would have loved a President Charlie Kirk or Vice President Charlie Kirk because he was young, he has the base energized. I think that would have been an unbeatable ticket with Charlie Kirk on it. I said it when it happened, it was a preemptive presidential assassination.

34:31And I don't think there's any way around it, which, you know, leads you to maybe ask a few more questions as to how it occurred, because it wasn't just an assassination of a, you know, someone with a mic who does debates. It was a preemptive assassination of a future president of America. You know, I think I've only said this once on camera, but since you brought it up, the last time I saw Charlie was about a year ago. I was at a Prager U event at Mar-a-Lago and I'm standing with Charlie and you guys know how tall Charlie was. So I'm kind of looking up at him and beyond us in the balcony up there, Trump walked by and was waving to everybody.

35:04And I said to Charlie, I said, that could be you one day. And he goes, God help us all. And then he had that kind of funny smile that he always had. And it's like, I meant it. I meant it. And maybe he meant that actually, too. So we, yeah, we're not going to, we're not going to get him back, which is unfortunate. But yeah. I'll say something just to Alex. We have two very talented, very capable candidates. And I'm not trying to be funny. When it comes to the left and Democrats, competence is almost a liability, not an asset. What sells is the Zoran Mamdani, which is why I think AOC is particularly politically potent.

35:40And she, you know, she can sell you something. And to the low level information voters, they'll buy it. Like Zoran Mandani sold socialism and New Yorkers bought it. And the competence of the alternatives almost is a liability where it's too complicated to understand what J.D. is going to say, what Rubio is going to say. But my prediction for the winningest ticket of all time is J.D. Vance for the president and Tulsi Gabbard for VP. That, in my view, is the winning ticket. You know, it's weird. It's like I agree with your prescription on the Democrats. And it's in a way, it's like why we have to root for the failure of New York City, because only the failure of New York City could do some damage to AOC or whoever it's going to be on that side.

36:20It's crazy, crazy. Let's jump to one other thing, because my favorite political pundit these days is Nicki Minaj. And here she is going after Gavin Newsom. And he's making a fool out of himself, like when he went all the way to another country to speak ill of the country and the president. We would never want someone like that to be our president. Americans are so big on loyalty. And that just showed us all, you do not have a loyal bone in your body. And no one is going to vote for you. Stein, we can get to the substance for just a second. But that New York accent, I mean, my God, I've never heard anything better.

37:00No, I love Nicki Minaj. And she's probably going to get more canceled. You saw the Grammys. All they did was attack her. But this is the problem, though. Gavin Newsom is so full of shit. people will buy it. I mean, people will literally buy it. And a ticket with him and AOC, because I think Bernie's going to be too old to run. I do think that that ticket would be formidable. I hope that I'm wrong, but this guy is evil. He will do nothing. He will literally go at every length to win. He will lie, cheat, and steal like he did with his staffer's wife. So he has no moral compass. He'll break every law or every rule, whatever it takes to become president or vice president.

37:36So I'm worried about Gavin Newsom because he's such a scumbag. And in politics, believe it or not, being a scumbag can kind of help you sometimes. To be clear, what you're alluding to is that he quite literally banged his chief of staff's wife, who was his best friend. I mean, the guy when he was mayor of San Francisco. But Viva, to the to the context of what she said, she's obviously talking about Newsom showing up at Davos talking crap about America. And I was thinking about it. And this is why she's my favorite political pundit. Do you think any other country had opposition there trashing their own country?

38:05I bet you they didn't. I bet you they didn't. Well, he'll say, I'm not trashing my country. Gavin will say, he says, I'm just trashing Trump, who himself is trashing the country. Okay. Well, even that version of it, I bet you they didn't. No, no. The fact that he goes there as though he's some form of meaningful international political representative, it just shows his aspirations to be president. But Nikki's right and wrong on the one hand. He's a traitor, traitorous of sorts, disloyal to the country, that sells with Democrats. That sells with people who think that their country is inherently evil and they have to go on some groveling pity tour to apologize for the evils that their country has committed nationally or domestically and internationally.

38:47So she identifies his fault, but that's actually an asset among his demographic. They want to shit on America and they want someone who's going to go abroad and do it proudly. I mean, that's just in the nature of the of the party. Wait real quick I have to cut in I thought that he went to Davos to have a speech and then they didn't let him speak so they ended up letting him speak because I thought his speech got canceled am I am I not uh am I wrong? I think maybe his his like big speech got canceled but then he did all these panels and obviously was doing press the entire time you know he did a ton of press I saw that but yeah his main speech got canceled from what I heard so yeah and then when Trump was up there he's in the back doing all his weird body motions and like something is not.

39:28But Dave, you don't want to be unfair to Gavin. He apologized for having an extramarital affair with his intern there. He came out and said, I let you down. And can you imagine like, it was an Eminem lyric, not to quote Eminem, it's like, oh yeah, you talk of an affair like you slipped and fell into some woman's groin. Like these are fundamental judgment errors. And then you come out and apologize for it and expect everyone to forgive and forget. And they do because the collective memory, especially of Democrats is very short and they don't remember what he did. I think it was about 15 years ago now.

40:00I don't know. He's kind of tall. You know, he's always crossing his legs in those crazy ways. Maybe he did fall right into her vagina. I have no idea. Like, who are we to say? Sam Altman just announced that ChatGPT can now reference all your past conversations, every thought, question, idea you've ever shared. And with a former NSA director now on their board, Edward Snowden called it a willful, calculated betrayal of the rights of every person on Earth. We've seen this before. Alexa listens. meta tracks everything you do. Why assume AI will be any different? And now OpenAI might even start asking for government IDs to use ChatGPT.

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41:06This is from Colin Rugg on Twitter. New 13 year old Australian boy swims for four hours in cold and dangerous waters to save his mom and siblings who were swept into the ocean says God is who got him back to shore. The family was on kayaks and paddleboards when they were swept out about two and a half miles out to sea. After a conversation with his mother, Austin Appleby decided he would swim back to shore to find help. Everything goes through your head as a woman. Did I make the wrong decision by sending them? Because I knew he was the strongest and he could do it. I would have never went because I wouldn't have left the kids at sea, so I had to send somebody.

41:44There was no boats. There was nothing that we can get hold of. and then as it got darker, yeah, I thought there's no one coming to save us. I was fighting rough seas because I thought I saw something in the water and I was really scared. I was just thinking, I was just thinking in my head, like thinking I was going to make it through. But I was also thinking about all my friends at school and friends of my Christian youth.

42:14and yeah I just said all right not today not today not today I have to keep on going I don't think it was actually me did I it was God the whole time I kept on praying I kept on praying and um I said to God I'll get baptized get baptized and all that um and I went to church on Sunday. According to the AP, the family drifted nine miles from Quindaloo and spent 10 hours in the water. When he reached the shore, Appleby alerted authorities, who then sent out a helicopter to find his mom, 12-year-old brother, and eight-year-old sister. Austin's mom, Joanne Appleby, said one of the hardest decisions of her life was sending her son to shore.

42:55What a remarkable kid. I mean, guys, it's just incredible. The human spirit actually is just incredible. Alex? Well, I'll just say that he probably did have the power of God. It's like when a grandmother is able to lift a wrecked car over her grandson or granddaughter. But what I'm thinking, because I'm kind of a sick person, we need to get him in the women's swimming league because that guy is the next Leah Thomas. I mean, that's a champion. That's a champion swimmer in the making. My not-so-funny joke is the kid doesn't need to get baptized. he got baptized through that four-hour journey and finding God.

43:32It reminds me, I think it's, I want to say Nietzsche or Kierkegaard, who says, you know, the value in prayer is the change internally that it brings about in the person in terms of their connection to a God. You know, it's amazing. I don't know that as a parent, if I would ever let my kid do that. I mean, A, I would think I would want to do it myself, but B, I would say take our chances in the kayaks and drift, but swimming through four hours of cold shark-infested water, swimming for four hours on ordinary circumstances is impossible. It's a miracle. Nothing shy of it. And this kid for the rest of his life is going to have a very meaningful connection to God.

44:07You know, that would be a really lovely way to end today's show. But instead, we are going to launch a new segment right now. It's called This Week on the Internet. A little bit of television style comedy for you guys. Just bear with me as we do this. Because guys, a lot happens on the internet and we are an internet show here to cover it. this week on the internet, guys, while Billie Eilish in her$14 million mansion lectures us about how no one's illegal on stolen land, the Tongva tribe says, hey, colonizer, how about you give us our land back? The Tongva tribe literally wrote, as the first people of greater Los Angeles basin, we do understand that her home is situated on ancestral land.

44:49Eilish has not contacted our tribe directly regarding her property. So the question is this, Billie, are you going to give the land back? You could maybe open it up to kill Moabrego Garcia. Or are you just afraid to be hit hard and soft? You get it, guys? Because that was her album and he hit his wife with a boot. Speaking of getting hit hard, Trump may smack Trevor Noah with a lawsuit over his Epstein joke at the Grammys. We're told his lawsuit could hit harder than this.

45:25that guy won dave that guy the guy the guy who had the toupee knocked off he won he won the fight yes yeah he won the fight believe it or not i've got he paid he paid 600 bucks for it uh and then he went and tried to get uh 650 back but uh yeah he uh or whatever you know or 700 bucks but yeah he won the fight lost his toupee won the fight yes no what i say i say this is you know maybe as a man with hair that I would, I don't think I would care if I were bald. Why wear a toupee? And especially why wear one in a boxing match? Viva, time out. Now I have to cut you off. Being bald is the worst curse that a man can face, dude.

46:02Being bald. No, serious. Are you serious? Viva, I thought you were a smart attorney. Being bald is a curse, dude. Nobody wants to be bald. Like that guy, if I was bald, I would glue so much hair on my head. I would, I mean, no way, Viva. Don't, don't ever say that. Being bald is the worst possibility that we can. I I love how Viva, you want to take your headphones off for a second. Your hair is the most psychotic, overgrown, maniacal creature I've ever seen attached to someone's head. To the point that we were in Ubers together and it was touching me at times. I was on a plane once. It was like the symbiote.

46:36It was like Venom. I was doing this on a plane, you know, like putting my hair over the back of the chair. And then the woman behind me is like, can you stop doing that? You're shedding on me. I was like, oh my gosh. but look I when I think bald I think Bruce Willis and Ving Rhames those are the two people I think of when I think of shaved head they wear it well they're cool um and uh I don't I don't think there should be a stigma around being bald oh really Viva an A-list actor is cool yeah no shit Sherlock I mean give me a break and let me tell you something I would cut off my pinky if it meant I got to keep my hair that's how serious I am and that's how that's why you take it for granted don't take it for granted because I'm starting to recede my dad's gotten two hair transplants I'm about to get one here and I'm still a young buck but when I get a little older I'm getting that hair transplant they're taking hair right from my butt because the hairs are this long putting it right here that's what they do it goes from your butt and your lower back it's where the strongest hair is I did not know that as long as we're doing late night comedy alright guys remember the time when Hollywood awards shows weren't always this way celebrities used to be respected, revered but it's now a place where they dress up like raw chicken what is going on there You will get salmonella just from looking at that picture.

47:44But sticking with the Grammys for a minute, guys, Taylor Swift wasn't there this year, even after the huge success of her era's tour. But it's interesting that she's not the only artist who's adopted this era's concept. Apparently, Lady Gaga is doing it right now. Although, rumor is that's actually Marilyn Manson with less makeup. I could be writing for Gutfeld. Who's doing this? It's incredible. Well, I think that same joke, apparently it's been a meme for a while. that people say you've never seen them in the same room together. Oh, I have never seen Marilyn Manson and Lady Gaga in the same room.

48:18And guys, if you thought that wokeness destroyed Hollywood, wait till you see what it's done to video games. This is incredible. Because on Minecraft, it's Black, well, it's Black History Month. And on Minecraft, they are now quoting Tim Walz's Make Good Trouble. So if you're unfamiliar, I mean, this is real. If you're unfamiliar with Minecraft, it's a game where young children can build houses with friends. You can fight ender dragons, or apparently you can shove this lady into the back of the bus. Did you see this? This is, it's real. This is not real, Dave. This is real. Yes, it's real. That's really from Minecraft.

48:48Yes, but don't worry, guys. The kids are going to be all right unless you're an illegal on Roblox, in which case they're doing this.

48:59This is politics ruins every, politics has now ruined Roblox. You can't even play a game anymore without politics rubbed in your face. I literally don't know. Are you the ice agent or are you the guy with the hat or what? The point of all of this, guys, is that this week in the internet reminded us that celebrities' opinions do not matter. You can never appease the woke mob. And your parents were right when they told you video games were going to rot your brain. Alex Stein, Viva Fry, thank you for playing along. Have a great weekend. See you on Monday, everybody.

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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Viva Frei and Alex Stein about YouTuber Angela Rose's visit to the address of the eStCru winery connected to Ilhan Omar's husband Tim Mynett, which has led to questions about her skyrocketing net worth; GB News' Ben Leo paying a visit to Billie Eilish's house located on "stolen land" from the Tongva tribe in Los Angeles; Jelly Roll's inspiring acceptance speech at the Grammy Awards where he focused on the power of his faith in Jesus to the chagrin of the liberal elites at the Grammys; shocking footage that CNN would like to ignore of what the anti-ICE protests at schools around the country like Langston Hughes High School actually looked like; Donald Trump telling NBC News' Tom Llamas if JD Vance or Marco Rubio is better suited for the 2028 election; 13 year-old Austin Appelbee's inspiring story of swimming for 4 hours through the ocean to get authorities to launch a sea rescue to save his mother and younger brother who had been swept out to sea of the coast of Australia; "This Week on the Internet" featuring Billie Eilish's ignorance, Lady Gaga, politically incorrect Minecraft and the downfall of celebrity activism; and much more.

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