Outrage After Zohran Mamdani Secretly Changes Definition of Rich to Widen the Tax Net

19 May 2026 · 55 min · 18 chapters

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In short

Dave Rubin argues that Democrats expand government power via taxes, COVID policy, and healthcare, and that this “I’m from the government and I’m here to help” approach fails. He criticizes New York City/State tax proposals attributed to Zohran Mamdani, links government overreach to COVID and Medicare-for-all, and contrasts it with TrumpRx prescription-drug price transparency. He also discusses a U.S.-Iran standoff and a Kentucky GOP primary where Trump backs Ed Galleran against Thomas Massey.

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No clear named guests appear in the transcript excerpt. The episode features quoted clips and interviews (e.g., Bill O’Reilly, Andrew Cuomo, Mallory McMorrow, Ro Khanna, Bobby Kennedy, Mark Cuban, and Trump), but not identifiable “guests” in-studio.

Key claims

Mamdani’s “tax the rich” definition shifts from $5M condos to $1M residences; government-run healthcare would reduce access (Canada MRI/CT claims); COVID policies were harmful; TrumpRx and private competition lower drug prices; Trump’s Iran approach pressures Iran/China while avoiding unnecessary escalation; Trump endorsements in GOP primaries win ~95%.

Notable examples

Reagan quote; COVID mask/social distancing/vaccine efficacy reversals; Canada 432 MRI machines vs U.S. 13,000; TrumpRx.gov discounts (e.g., “Fandeo,” “Chulicity,” “Metformin”); Trump pausing an Iran strike after Gulf leaders request a delay; Kentucky primary polling drop for Massey (71% to 44%).

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Zorhan Mamdani's Tax Proposal

1:50 to 2:26

Discussion on Zorhan Mamdani's shift in tax policy and its implications.

“So please do join us at daverubin.com slash events.”

Ronald Reagan's Quote on Government

2:26 to 5:15

Rubin reflects on Reagan's warning about government intervention and its relevance today.

“I wanna start with this clip out of New York City.”

Tax System Critique

5:15 to 7:18

Analysis of current tax proposals in New York City and their effectiveness.

“So what he's saying there is that it's scarier nine words are that you've worked all day and you can't feed your family.”

Minimum Wage and Family Support

7:18 to 10:04

Rubin debates the realities of minimum wage jobs and family support.

“But the 11th hour pitches requiring sweeping changes to New York City's famously convoluted property tax system that raised alarm bells with experts such as Andrew Ryan, president of the Citizens Budget Commission.”

COVID Government Response

10:04 to 11:15

Critique of government actions during the COVID-19 pandemic, especially regarding public health.

“because it's not just taxes and the economy.”

Andrew Cuomo and COVID Scandals

11:15 to 14:00

Rubin discusses Andrew Cuomo's controversial decisions during COVID and their consequences.

“to the backdrop of those nine scariest words are here is Bill O 'Reilly with former New York governor and failed mayoral candidate, sadly, of New York City, Andrew Cuomo.”

Critique of Government Health Insurance

14:00 to 15:12

Discussing the shortcomings of government health care options and Medicare for all.

“I'm from the government and I'm here to help.”

The Trap of Medicare for All

15:12 to 17:56

Exploring the implications of Medicare for all and the dangers of banning private insurance.

“I think Buttigieg was the only one who didn't.”

Government and Drug Pricing

17:56 to 20:30

Analyzing the effects of government control versus private enterprise in drug pricing.

“So again, I'm from the nine scariest words in the English language.”

Collaboration for Healthcare Solutions

21:20 to 28:00

Discussing the collaboration between Trump and Mark Cuban on drug pricing and healthcare initiatives.

“We want to be in competition with these other places.”
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Mark Cuban and Trump's Business Deal

28:00 to 30:52

Discussion about Mark Cuban's business model and his relationship with Trump.

“You're now gonna put me in this exchange.”

Iran Military Strategy Update

30:53 to 33:38

Overview of the current situation with Iran and military strategies discussed.

“Cause you know, we've been in this, basically two to three week sort of pause as we've got the Strait of Hormuz locked down.”

Iran's Nuclear Ambitions

33:39 to 37:06

Analysis of Iran's nuclear capabilities and the implications for U.S. foreign policy.

“We get very little coming through the Strait of Hormuz, so it wasn't gonna hurt us that much.”

Election Insights: Thomas Massey Primary

37:07 to 41:30

Discussion on the Kentucky House primary and Trump's endorsement strategy.

“didn't want nukes, but the new Ayatollah does.”

Trump's Endorsement Success Rate

41:31 to 42:00

Highlighting Trump's impressive track record in endorsing winning candidates.

“Here's that little hopped up guy, Harry Enten, over on CNN with his big screen and his numbers.”

The Impact of Trump Endorsements on Elections

42:00 to 46:56

Learn how Trump's endorsements influence Republican election outcomes.

“Now, I will note, you know, sometimes he endorses and there's no real challenger.”

Elon Musk vs. OpenAI: Legal Battle Insights

46:56 to 50:01

Explore the legal dynamics between Elon Musk and OpenAI regarding their mission.

“If you think about the difference between your grandparents' life, some of whom maybe didn't have even have the radio, right?”

The Future of AI and Information Control

50:01 to 53:35

Discuss the implications of AI evolution on information control and society.

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1:47All right, guys. I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. It's May 19th, 2026. And you know, it just hit me while watching that trailer right there, that technically, if you come to the show on June 11th at the Fillmore in Miami Beach with all of those great people, that if Hamas people or other terrorist-related people are in the road, on the way, you're allowed to hit them. And one of the guests said it's okay. You automatically are free. You are just set free. So please do join us at daverubin.com slash events. We just got a big old fashioned program for you today. Let's dive in. There's actually a ton going on.

2:27I wanna start with this clip out of New York City. And it's like every time you see one of these Zorhan clips, it's like nothing surprises me at this point. Literally nothing surprises me. There's no announcement he could make related to tax levels. There's no announcement he could relate, he could make related to supporting terrorists. There's just nothing he could say that would surprise me at this point. But I think it is surprising an awful lot of people, the rapid escalation into full-blown communism. So yesterday, we often show you this clip of Ronald Reagan talking about the nine most terrifying words are I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

3:04Well, he took that, Zorhan took that and flipped it to the applause of these dingbats. Take a look. I cannot help but think of the words of our 40th president, Ronald Reagan. He famously said, the nine most terrifying words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help. It's a good quote, but I disagree. I think nine more terrifying words are actually I worked all day and can't feed my family. OK, I don't like this guy. I'm not going to curse, not doing the cursing anymore. Let me just talk about the quote for a second, the original Ronald Reagan quote. The original Ronald Reagan quote is, be wary of power is in essence what he is saying, that government is not necessarily out to help you nor designed to help you.

3:54We created a government in the United States for the past 250 years that protected your natural rights via the government. And in some sense, we were protecting your natural rights from the government. We wanted limited government so that you could pursue happiness. These are all things that were extraordinarily groundbreaking at the time, and in many senses still are today. So Reagan, it was a warning, meaning if you just give up your power to the government, you give them more money, you say, government, do for me, it is human nature that over time they will just take more and more from you.

4:34And if you think about it this way, what right now, even with a government that I like a lot, a federal government that I think is doing as good a job as possible and is staffed with tons of great people as we've talked about endlessly. Like what is the government really good at? If you have a problem in your life, do you want the government to fix it? If you have a problem with the plumbing in your house, if you have a problem, whatever the problem is, it just doesn't even matter. Like, do you want the government to fix it or do you want someone who, I don't know, owns a small business and maybe might be, You have a little more skin in the game.

5:10There might be a little more competition involved. The government basically is a monopoly. Okay, you guys understand all of these things. So what he's saying there is that it's scarier nine words are that you've worked all day and you can't feed your family. And now that does sound right. And this is what they're really good at. It sounds right. But I really want you to think, how many people are working all day, meaning having a full-time job and cannot feed their family? I'm gonna venture that it's almost nobody. Now that's not to say that people that are working hard would like to have more, of course they would.

5:44And are there some that are going beyond their means? Maybe your apartment is too expensive for what you can actually afford and everything else. But if you work, what's minimum wage in New York City? Can someone check on that? Let's say you have a minimum wage job. And by the way, minimum wage jobs are not what you're supposed to raise a family on. A minimum wage job is what a high school or college kid is supposed to have while they're doing something else. So that's why when Bernie always is like, the minimum wage must be raised, you can't feed a family. It's like, it's not supposed to be. That's supposed to be when you're single and you're a kid and you need a little extra scratch.

6:15That's how it always was. It's$17 an hour minimum wage. So if you work a full day and most people, again, most people aren't raising a family, feeding a family on minimum wage, but let's say it's roughly minimum wage you're making. Let's say it's 20 bucks an hour you're making and you can't feed your family at the end of the day. You know, you can get a pound of beef for probably$4.99 at Costco. You can get a dozen eggs for around five bucks. You can get a pound of broccoli pretty cheap. Like there are ways you can do things, but you have to do it. Like you have to take a little responsibility for your life.

6:50I am not sitting here saying that everything is perfect. Would I like food prices to be cheaper? Would I like rents to go down? Yes, but all of those things are related to competition not giving more power to the government. And of course what he really is saying is, I want the government to have more of their money to do with it what I want them to do. So we'll do more on the Reagan thing in just a second, but I wanna read to you where we're at with the New York City tax situation because it's getting worse. This from the New York Post. New taxes targeting the rich pushed by Governor Kathy Hochul this week may appease socialist Mayor Zorhan Mamdami in the short term, but insiders warn they are so slapdash they'll open cans of worms for the Big Apple's future.

7:34Hochul floated a proposal for a PA de terror tax on luxury second homes and entered discussions on a transfer levy on$1 million residences bought with cash as she and state lawmakers entered their sixth week of overtime, haggling over the Empire State's next budget. But the 11th hour pitches requiring sweeping changes to New York City's famously convoluted property tax system that raised alarm bells with experts such as Andrew Ryan, president of the Citizens Budget Commission. Should we rationalize our property and transfer tax system? Yes, he said. Should we do it piecemeal, 45 days into the state fiscal year based on unvetted proposals?

8:12No, that's not the way for a good outcome. Mamdami has pushed the tax of the rich not only to help close a reputed$4.5 billion, sorry,$5.4 billion budget shortfall in the city, but also to inject fairness into a system he contends is skewed towards favoring the wealthy. The governor, however, firmly opposed Mamdami's pitch to tax on the city's millionaires, arguing it only drive them out of the city. So there's a couple of things here. Number one, you all remember this. When we played you, we've played it for you a million times. When Mamdami put out that piece of propaganda talking about the PA de terre tax, it was for condos over$5 million.

8:47Well, magically it suddenly, within weeks, has become$1 million. That's one thing. Number two, the entire general idea of taxing all of these people does not work. Show me where it works. They have to pay their fair share. We're constantly told they have to pay their fair share. The top 1 % pay 47 % in taxes. So what is their fair share? And of course, as you know, there is no number. Should the 1 % pay 80 %? If they did, if Mamdami got what he wanted, Well, they'd all be beheaded probably, but like, let's say it was okay, we'll take them. The 1 % are paying 47%, let's make it 80%. Well, first off, we know that the rest of them would all flee, New York obviously, but even for the ones that stayed, there's no number.

9:37There's no, okay, well, I got the cash I wanted. I can solve all your problems. It's complete and utter brainless drivel that a seventh grader should recognize as such, but unfortunately the Democrats have dumbed people down for so long over generations, they think it's the right thing. So now let's just show you just a quick reminder on those nine words from Ronald Reagan. The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Okay, so let's unpack that a little bit because it's not just taxes and the economy. You guys may have remembered, there was a couple of years where a few people had a cough and the government said you had to inject yourself in this experimental vaccine that turned out not to be a vaccine and you couldn't go to your grandma's funeral and your kids couldn't go to school.

10:19What was that thing called?

10:23COVID, yes, COVID, yes, yes, yes. So there was this COVID thing, and there was this guy by the name of Anthony Fauci who during COVID was emailing friends saying that masks don't really work and that they could still go on vacation while he was shutting us down. And he was also telling us that the vaccine had 100 % efficacy, and then over time, that completely changed and everything else. But if you wanna talk about, I'm from the government, I'm here to help. Do you think the government helped you during COVID? Was it a net good or bad? If had the government done nothing, I really fundamentally believe this and I have no doubt I'll get plenty of hate on this.

10:57But if the government had actually done nothing during COVID and we had all made the choices that we felt were right for us and talked to our doctor and maybe got outside more and got some sun and exercise and didn't bring in, you know, take out food all the time and get fatter and all those things, I actually think everything would have probably been better. So the reason I'm going from taxes to COVID to the backdrop of those nine scariest words are here is Bill O 'Reilly with former New York governor and failed mayoral candidate, sadly, of New York City, Andrew Cuomo. Now, Andrew Cuomo, who of course, he stepped down because of a sex scandal, but was caught up during COVID in a crazy scandal where he took elderly people that had been taken out of the homes that they were in, meaning like the old age homes, the retirement homes, and then they got COVID and he put them back in.

11:44And you can truly make an argument that thousands of people died because of that decision. My friend Janice Dean, the Fox News weather person who I've had on the show, her in-laws both died because of that. And that really radicalized her. It's sort of like Spencer Pratt's house burning down. It'll radicalize you when your house burns down and your parents' house burns down. When your in-laws get killed because of a government I'm here to help you decision, you might get radicalized. In any event, here is Andrew Cuomo and Bill O 'Reilly talking about Dr. Fauci and whether he's a fraud. Fauci a fraud?

12:19I think Fauci did the best with what he knew at the time. But he came across as going, I know everything. Well. Come on. You know he did. Well, I think, look, I think Fauci was acting on what he knew, and he was trying to bring calm to the country. I did those daily briefings. What the public wanted was honesty. and when Fauci got into the Wuhan lab stuff, he came across as not being honest. Yeah, but look, nobody wanted politics. It always becomes political. Everybody's pointing the thing. Sure. So you'll see why we're tying this all together, but just quickly if you think about it, Fauci told you masks work.

13:06Why is it? I'm not a scientician, just an average guy, but why is it when they told us put masks on, it'll do something? I remember putting the mask on and going, boy, I can breathe out this way, breathe out this way, I'm pretty sure germs will be able to get in. Am I a wizard? I don't think so. He told us about six foot social distancing. There was no evidence anywhere in any scientific literature that six foot social distancing made any sense. As a matter of fact, you could probably have argued the complete reverse, which would have got us to herd immunity, meaning get young, healthy people to get COVID, get some immunity and whatever.

13:36In some sense, it's boring talking about the COVID stuff, but in other ways, it actually is important. Then he told us that the vaccines work, right? And Joe Biden, of course, his boss said, if you get the COVID vaccine, and you will not get nor transmit COVID. And then he lied under oath to Rand Paul about whether the NIH and some of those other organizations that he worked with funded the Wuhan lab, right? Which where they were doing gain of function research. So again, you'll see what we're doing here. Ronald Reagan, nine scariest words. I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Okay, well, you see why that's not working in New York.

14:04It simply does not work. Taxes, you're pushing people out. COVID, did it work? Well, here it is as it relates to health insurance. Here's Michigan Senate candidate Mallory McMorrow, and she wants you to only have the option of government health care, meaning no private insurance, no matter how much you want to pay for it out of your own pocket. And, you know, another part of your assertion was that Medicare for all is, I wrote the quote down, one singular government run health care system that we're all on. Can you elaborate on that? Because Medicare for all is a replacement for private insurance with a single government payer like Medicare is currently.

14:43It's not government run health care. Sure, you're right. And I have taken that feedback to heart. We campaign a lot. And I do talk about this differently now so that it doesn't come across as callous. You need to push as far as you possibly can. No, you don't need to push as far as you possibly can. You see what she's saying? You need to push people into this public option. And quite literally, you may remember this during the last Democrat primary. Remember they asked how many of you would ban private healthcare? And a few of them raised their hands. Bernie, I think raised his hand. We can check on this.

15:18Elizabeth Warren. I think Buttigieg was the only one who didn't. A couple of the other ones did. Meaning that what they want is that the government will run everything. You know, I mentioned to you guys, as I did this Surrounded show, this Jubilee Surrounded show, the videos I guess will come out later this week, and I'm around 20 far leftists. It's me versus 20 far leftists, all 23 year old kids. It was like the hate that I was getting was just insane. But one thing they all kept saying was, Medicare for all, Medicare for all, we've gotta have Medicare for all, everyone has to have Medicare for all.

15:47And I kept saying to them, I understand why you want everyone to have healthcare. That is a nice idea. And they kept saying it's a right, right? And that's Bernie, healthcare is right, but you don't have a right to someone else's work. Someone has to do the work of healthcare, right? So you don't have a right to healthcare. We'd like to, all of us, every human being I think would like to create the conditions where if someone got sick, there would be a system in place to take care of them. And by the way, if you are sick or you're hit by a car or anything else, you can go to the emergency room and they'll take care of you.

16:16That's just a fundamental truth, whether you are legal or not actually. But just saying, okay, Medicare for all, everyone should be on the government's healthcare plan. It's so dim, right? It's dim. That doesn't mean it will be good. That doesn't mean it will be effective. Look at much of Europe. Look at Canada where you have to wait. What is it? How many, I think it's MRI machines. Can you check? Or was it CT machines they have in Canada? They have like 30 of them for the whole country or something. So people have to come down here. So it's just dim thinking. It's I'm a nice person. I want everyone to have everything.

16:50I don't have to think about how it's gonna be paid for or whether it's good, but I'm a nice person and everyone must do what I want or I'll kill them. but I am the nice person. Let's continue because it's not just taxes in New York. It's not just what they did with COVID. It's not just what they wanna do with healthcare. It's the general state of everything when Democrats are in control. And the best example of that, of course, is California. Here is my friend, Adam Carolla, a man who still for some God forsaken reason lives there, going after Newsom for calling Trump, who has tried to get the government off of our back, a dictator.

17:27The part that's rich about it is all the people, including Gavin Newsom, who are calling Trump a dictator, the guy who closed the beaches and closed the parks and closed the schools and closed the churches and closed the outdoor dining at restaurants, the guy who took control of every freedom you had and flushed it down the toilet is the guy's wagging his finger at the guy who wanted to open things up. That is rich to me. And it's insane. Yeah, that was from a day or two ago. He did a show with Bobby Kennedy there. So again, I'm from the nine scariest words in the English language. I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

18:11And look what happens when you give up more of your rights, more of your freedom, more of your, oh, can I go to an outdoor skate park while somebody has a cough? Look what and what the results of that are. Just to clean up what I said before, there are 432 MRI machines in all of Canada. The United States has 13 ,000. That's just one simple example. Okay, you're going, everyone should, it's even crazier than that. It's one thing to say we should have Medicare for all. A lot of these people are also saying we should ban private healthcare. So no matter what, you wouldn't even be able to pay for your own healthcare in addition to Medicare.

18:50So you get it, you get it. But now there's a reason I'm showing you all this because I wanna show you that what you can do is when you have a government that doesn't look, which is what we have right now, the federal government, which doesn't look to solve every problem, but looks to create the conditions for the private enterprise to get involved, then good things can happen. And it will also create seriously strange bedfellows. So who was one of the most, I went after this guy relentlessly during the election, one of Trump's biggest critics over the last couple years has been Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban, of course, from Shark Tank, who's billionaire beyond billionaire, invests in a million things, and he has created this exchange to lower prescription drugs.

19:30Trump has ran on TrumpRx, and he wants to do it too. He doesn't want the government to do everything. So lo and behold, what happens? Trump, the guy who doesn't want the government to do everything, who's in charge of the government, and Cuban, a guy who was completely Trump deranged, voted for Kamala Harris, but really cares about healthcare and lowering drug costs, Well, they are now working together. This from the White House. Phoenix got a roll for me. Historic launch to lower drug prices for American patients. Today, President Donald J. Trump announced an expansion of TrumpRx.gov to provide unprecedented price transparency and choice on generic medications that millions of Americans use every day.

20:08Beginning today, TrumpRx.gov will feature more than 600 generic medications. Americans will be able to clearly and transparently understand on the most competitive cash prices of their medications without insurance middlemen, encouraging them to compare against co-pays offered by their insurance company. Patients will be able to compare the best cash prices available to them at their local pharmacies through delivery options offered by various private pharmacy programs. Discounts offered by Amazon Pharmacy, Cost Plus Drugs, and GoodRx will be integrated into TrumpRx.gov. These generic drugs and prices will be listed separately from the discounts on high-cost branded medications negotiated by President Trump through his most favored nation drug price agreements.

20:50Common medications featured on TrumpRx.gov will include, but are not limited to, Adervastin, a cholesterol medication, Clopidorgrel, a blood thinner, Lizinoprol, these are great words, a medication for high blood pressure, and Metformin, a diabetes medication. TrumpRx.gov will list some of the most popular and commonly used everyday medications, but will not have offerings for controlled substances, drugs with FDA-mandated risk evaluation, and mitigation strategies, and medications not commonly offered through direct-to-consumer channels. So you understand, this is what the government's supposed to do.

21:23Trump is creating basically a marketplace and now working with Mark Cuban, who is doing this on the private side, we'll have more on Cuban in just a second, so that there will be competition, so that Costco and Walgreens, and what was it, DrugRx, and a bunch of these companies will come in, and they won't have a monopoly over everything like the government would have if the government was controlling all this, but all these other companies will go, oh, we have different ways we can buy these things. We have different logistical costs. We want to be in competition with these other places. And when there is competition, we can start lowering prices because then more people will come to us.

21:57And the more we sell, then it creates better conditions to then, I don't know, make some money and do some other things. So this is exactly the type of government efficiency that Ronald Reagan would have wanted, not the type that Zorhan Mamdami wants. Here's video of Trump Rx chief design officer, Joe Gebbia, talking about how several drugs, including GLP-1s, for those of you that are gonna lose a couple pounds, are gonna be much cheaper. Immediately, you'll see a news section called Presidential Deals. These are some of the most affordable brand name drugs in America, made possible thanks to our president's legendary deal making.

22:37So let's take a look at a few of these. This is Fandeo, the new GLP-1 pill, 77 % off. This is the insulin medication, 72 % off. This is Chulicity, 61 % off. Okay, so again, do you understand, if there was no competition, if there was no marketplace for this, if we just had Medicare for all, and the only way you could get drugs or find a doctor or find a specialist was you had to go onto a government website, and there's nothing better than a government website, you would be waiting longer, and you would obviously be paying more and everything else. Even a government that was pretty efficient, that would be the case because there would not be competition, right?

23:15Now, the other beautiful part of this is that I think what we are now seeing, and this is where Trump's gonna start getting some wins before the midterms, is that it takes a little time for these things to happen. You know, it's sort of like the trade deals. All those tariffs and the trade deals, it took a little time to land and virtually every single one of them has come back in favor of the United States. Virtually every tariff that Trump threw out there, they came back and we got more equitable trade deals. Well, that happens with something like healthcare too. It wasn't gonna happen overnight, but now we're seeing the fruits of that.

23:44Here is HHS Secretary Bobby Kennedy talking about how all these other presidents said they were gonna do something on prescription drugs, but here's Trump actually doing it. He promised to do this. President Clinton promised to do it. President Biden promised to do it. President Obama promised to do it. President Trump actually got it done. And it's an extraordinary accomplishment. It's an extraordinary legacy for him, and it's a gift to the American people. And I want to thank you again for your vision and for your determination. You remember when Bobby Kennedy decided to endorse Trump after running as a Democrat and getting demolished by the Democrat Party, where they quite literally wouldn't put his name on primaries and things like that?

24:32And do you remember the first time that I ever had him on the show when I said to him, I said, Bobby, or I said, Mr. Kennedy, I don't know if you'll be a Republican by the end of this thing, but I know you won't be a Democrat. And we've shown it before, but his eyes actually light up. And the other thing he has said, which is he thinks that God actually kind of brought Trump into his life, that his life's work was helping America get over this epidemic of obesity and sickness and everything else. And now he's doing that very job. And yeah, Trump gets all the accolades for it, right? It's called Trump Rx and they point at Trump and they thank Trump and all of that stuff.

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25:09You know what, who cares? Who cares if his ego's being stroked a little bit? The simple equation is this, are prescription drugs lower today because of this than they were yesterday? And the answer to that is yes. And then, as I said before, it starts, success makes strange bedfellows of people. When your goal is success, when your goal is to help people, suddenly people who are your enemies start realizing, boy, you know that Trump guy? Sure, I did hate him and I said all that crazy stuff, but he's doing this really cool thing with prescription drugs and oh, I'm Mark Cuban and I've been doing this thing with prescription drugs, we should work together.

25:48And here they are. Mr. President, I think other than you, I've been the biggest proponent of TrumpRx.com. And the reason for that is Republicans want cheaper drugs, independents want cheaper drugs, Democrats want cheaper drugs, and together I think we're going to do something special. What makes Cost Plus Drugs different is that when you click through TrumpRx to our site, not only will you see a great price, but you'll see our actual cost and that we only market up 15 percent. And what makes this incredible, Mr. President, all the volume and all the people that are going to come from the site.

26:23As our volumes go up, our costs go down, which means we'll be ending up charging less to people over a period of time. So this is a special announcement. This is a special partnership. 559 of those drugs are ours. So we're really excited to be part of this. Thank you so much for having me. Guys, I don't think this can be overstated how cool this is. And this is what decent people do. You know, I've been very, very critical of Mark Cuban. And like, I've gone off on him many times and he really was Trump deranged. But then he's putting that aside. And Trump, who's unbelievably good at that, right?

26:55Like Trump, you can say all the horrible things in the world about him. Marco Rubio used to go after him all the time. Everybody used to go after him. Kennedy used to go after him, everybody, right? JD Vance said crazy things about him years ago. And he brings them in, right? And now they're all part of this cool thing. But there is Cuban going, I care about this thing. You care about this thing. And then he makes the point about how capitalism works and governments not the answer. First off, what a cool thing related to transparency. And I keep telling you, AI is going to make the world so much more transparent.

27:23So what he's saying is you can see our price, how much we're getting the drugs for. We're only gonna market up 15%. That seems pretty freaking fair, right? It's still a private company. They have to make some money. But then his point is the more that people buy this, and this is what the basic stuff of capitalism is, then people start buying more and then their costs start going down, right? It's why when you go to Costco, when you buy in bulk, things are cheaper, right? Everyone knows that. If you buy a little can of orange juice per liter of juice, it's very expensive. If you buy a bigger one, it starts becoming cheaper.

27:56That's basic stuff. So right there is saying, hey, this is what capitalism's about. You're now gonna put me in this exchange. And then the other cool part of it is that he's just got one of the companies that are part of this. Costco's part of it, Walgreens, there were a couple others. They will then start going, boy, you know, Cuban over there with his cost plus thing, he's doing some good stuff. They're transparent about the pricing and they're only adding 15%. Why don't we add 14 % and see what happens? And then people might start going there and then Cuban might be like, man, they beat me.

28:29I'm gonna go down to 10. That's how you actually lower costs and help people. Then just on a funny side of this, Trump was asked about Mark Cuban and how he supported Kamala. It's pretty remarkable seeing you and Mark Cuban up there and the fact that obviously Mark endorsed Kamala Harris back in 2020. Well, he made a mistake. It was a big mistake. What does this say about what you two are building here? Well, it says we love people. We love our country. He wants to. He's got a good company and he's going to do a lot of business with this. And I'm going to get drugs out through Amazon, through the whole group, and we're going to get drugs out.

29:09And Mark wanted to be a part of it. And I think Mark was very gracious. He said, this is something that really works. First time you've seen it. Guys, that's it. That's as good as government is going to get. You have Trump joking about this guy who was trying to like handicap him and make sure he was not gonna be president and probably put plenty of money into it too and everything else. And then you have Trump explaining why he's willing to work with him right now. He's got this company, he's doing cool stuff. And at the end, we both care about people and we would like people to have more access in a cheaper way to these things.

29:41The answer was not, oh, I'm not gonna work with Mark. Oh, I see Mark Cuban over there. He's got this marketplace for prescription drugs. I'm the government, I'm gonna come in and undercut him and try to destroy him. No, that's not even how the government, the government can't do that. Anyway, like the government's not functional enough to do it. So he's working with people to actually try to make your life a little bit better. Here's Mark Cuban being asked if he regrets endorsing Kamala. Do you regret supporting former Vice President? I'm not going into my politics at all. Yes, sir. I think that's fine.

30:14I actually think that's a fine answer. I hope, Mark Cuban, if you're watching today, I hope your answer is yes. Not just because you're now in, you know, quote unquote business, let's say with Trump, but because you realize that this guy is not all of the crazy things that you thought, and that there are other good things happening in the country and the amount of investment that's coming here and all of those things. I hope you realize that. But I actually can completely accept, I'm just not gonna talk about that. You know what, we agree on this. This is a good thing we're doing together. I'm gonna make a little scratch.

30:44It's good for Trump because it's good for the American people. Let's leave it at that. I think that's just fine. Okay, so let's put a pin in that for now and move over to where we're at with the Iran situation. Cause you know, we've been in this, basically two to three week sort of pause as we've got the Strait of Hormuz locked down. Iran's losing$500 million a day cause they can't get that oil out. If you remember what I was saying at the beginning of this thing, I think this had a lot to do with exerting pressure on China. Trump was just in China. We'll have more on that in just a second. But apparently we were gonna resume attacks today, quite literally today.

31:19It would be happening right now because Iran hasn't come back with a counter proposal that Trump likes. However, it turns out that a couple of the Gulf states talked to Trump and we are gonna pause on that momentarily. Here's Trump. Can you speak a little bit about your post on True Social on Iran and what was the decision that why you didn't attack? Well, other countries have come to me and they've said we were getting ready to do a very major attack tomorrow. I put it off for a little while, hopefully, maybe forever, but possibly for a little while. Because we've had very big discussions with Iran and we'll see what they amount to.

31:57I was asked by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE and some others if we could put it off for two or three days, a short period of time because they think that they are getting very close to making a deal. Okay, so there's a whole bunch of other countries now, right? We know that Iran bombed probably 13 other Gulf and Arab states, and they now are saying, hey, there's some discussions here, let's pause on this. Let me just quickly recap the Trump Truth Social post on that. I've been asked by the emir of Qatar, Tamim Bel Hamad al-Thani, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman al-Sahd, and the President of the UAE, Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahan, to hold off on our planned military attack on the Islamic Republic of Iran, which was scheduled for tomorrow, in that serious negotiations are now taking place and that, in their opinion, as great leaders and allies, a deal will be made which will be very acceptable to the United States of America, as well as all countries in the Middle East and beyond.

32:51The deal will include, importantly, no nuclear weapons for Iran. Based on my respect for the above mentioned leaders, I've instructed Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, the Chairman of Joint Chief of Staff, General Daniel Cain, the United States military, that we will not be doing the scheduled attack of Iran tomorrow, but have further instructed them to be prepared to go forward with full, large-scale assault of Iran on a moment's notice in the event that an acceptable deal is not reached. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. So that's Trump 101, right? Like we were about to do it.

33:20Couple of these leaders are like, hey, maybe we can make some moves here. Give us a couple of days. Trump says, okay. And then what does he also say? We're ready to attack. So we will see. Now, again, I wanna point out that from, I think, day one of this thing, I kept saying this has more to do with China than anything else. China gets 13, 14 % of their oil from Iran. We get very little coming through the Strait of Hormuz, so it wasn't gonna hurt us that much. Plus we got the access to Venezuela oil and we are drilling more. Also, by doing something a little kind of nutty militarily, we might've been sending a signal to China that if they make a move on Taiwan, which is where we're getting huge amounts of these microprocessors, which we need in an age of AI, that they might be in a little bit of trouble.

34:04Well, as you know, Trump went to China just last week. There were all sorts of meetings. And now it sounds like Xi Jinping wants to make a deal that will keep Trump happy and hamper Iran. Here is Trump talking to Brett Baier. And President Xi would like to see a deal made. He would like to see a deal made. And he did offer, he said, if I can be of any help at all, I would like to be of help. He did say that. Yeah, he did say that. And look, anybody that buys that much oil has obviously got some kind of a relationship with him. But he said, I would love to be of help. If I could be of any help whatsoever, he'd like to see the Hormuz Strait open.

34:45He said, if I could be of any help whatsoever, I would like to help. Yeah. Do you guys get it now? All these people that pretended, even these influencers on the right that pretended, Trump has no idea what he's doing. He's going to end the civilization thermonuclear World War III. We're panicans. the sky is falling, chicken little, blah, blah, blah. It's like there was and has been a plan. Trump just told you right there, because China gets an awful lot of their oil from Iran, suddenly Xi Jinping is going, hey, can we figure this thing out? Because they need that oil. Now, Brett Baer did push Trump a little bit.

35:25He said he was asking here about whether we underestimated Iran's ability to withstand an American attack. Take a look. So why are we where we are? Did you underestimate the pain tolerance that Iran has? I didn't underestimate anything. We hit them unbelievably hard. Look, we left their bridges. We left their electricity capacity. We can knock that all out in two days, two days, everything. We left Cargill Island other than I said, hit it except for the valves where the oil comes out. Because when you hit that, that means you're gonna lose a little oil. I think I might've said that the first clip was Brett Baier.

36:08That was obviously Hannity. The one we just showed you was Brett Baier. But I think it's a good question by Brett because even though I think of this thing has gone pretty spectacularly well, right? A 40 day war and now just a blockade and we're getting some sort of deal and China's coming to the table, right? Because we've got them over a barrel, no pun intended, because they want that oil. I think it's a completely legitimate question because basically Brett's saying, how are we in this situation? Meaning that the optics around this, there's a certain set of people that think that we're in another forever war.

36:40Now we just aren't, but Trump lays out, hey, we could have blown that place apart like this if we wanted. Like we could absolutely do it. We didn't, but we are making sure that they are gonna come to the table and be fair. And by the way, we've taken out all their leadership and the Navy and the Air Force and everything else. Here is Ro Khanna, and we've put a couple of videos of this guy lately. He wanted, he pretended I suppose to be a moderate Democrat, but he's just a far lefty. Here he is explaining that the now deceased Ayatollah didn't want nukes, but the new Ayatollah does. On Iran, look, they're still enriched uranium there.

37:16Yes, we defeated a lot of their Navy and defeated their Air Force, but the regime there is more hardline now. Kamene Jr. actually wants to develop nuclear weapons, which is fathered in. Oh, that's interesting. How do you know? Well, first off, there's enriched uranium there. You are right about that. And we're talking about how we can get it out of the country. But so there is, you're admitting there is enriched uranium there. The Iranians admitted 100 % that they were enriching beyond civilian use. And you're saying that the former Ayatollah didn't want to develop weapons? but the new guy does?

37:51Well, let's tell you a little bit about the new guy. The new guy, Mojtaba Khomeini, he hasn't been seen in public in weeks. He has severe burns to his face. He may be missing both legs. And according to US intelligence, he is a homosexual. I'm gonna guess that his reign of terror is not gonna last very long. But what Roe is really saying there is basically, if we do anything, it makes people more angry, right? And this is such a, it's a dim view, but I would also say it's a very defeatist view. You know, if America does anything, if we fight to stop an apocalyptic regime from getting nukes, which was the policy of America for 40 years and all these other presidents said they were gonna do it and Trump just did it, we're just gonna make people angry on the ground.

38:36And by the way, I'll try to give the devil his due there. That might be true to some extent. Some people are gonna be pissed. But do you do what is right to protect the world and to protect your people? Or do you placate people that probably don't like you very much in the first place. That is something that I think Trump sees very clearly. And actually that's quite a segue here because today there is a major election. It's the Kentucky House primary race, which is up for Thomas Massey's seat. Now, before we do this segment, I wanna say I've interviewed Thomas, I don't know, probably a half dozen times.

39:09I've enjoyed chatting with him very much. I am very in line with a lot of libertarian ideals. Actually, about a year ago, he was in Miami. He called me up, I had dinner with him, with his, no, this must be two years ago because it was with his wife who has since passed away, about two years ago after their kid got married, one of their sons got married not too far from me. He called me up, I had dinner with him and a few other people, we had a great night. So I like him personally. I think some of his policies have gone a little kooky, but putting that aside for a moment, there's now a big fight for this primary election and Trump is supporting Ed Galleran, who is his competitor.

39:44And Trump's argument basically is Massey as a libertarian. Well, first off, Massey keeps putting all the Epstein stuff on Trump and everything else, but even getting over the Epstein stuff. Massey often votes with Democrats or doesn't vote with Republicans for libertarian reasons, meaning he has his ideals and he just doesn't vote. So he didn't vote for the big, beautiful bill. He didn't vote for certain things related to closing the border, a series of other things. That's his libertarian beliefs. Trump wants people that will be on board with him, especially because we have such slim margins.

40:15So a lot of people are trying to make this about all sorts of things. I think this is Trump wants people who will back him because he realizes how tenuous the Republican grip on the House is. Anywho, it's gotten a little nasty. The election is today. Hopefully we'll have a result tonight, but this from Trump on Truth Social. The worst congressman in a long and storied history of the Republican Party is Thomas Massey. He's an obstructionist and a fool. Vote him out of office tomorrow, Tuesday. It will be a great day for America. So look, I don't think he's a fool. If I'm not mistaken, he's an electrical engineer and literally built a battery for his house using a Tesla battery, like that's pretty cool.

40:49So he's not a fool. Now is he an obstructionist? Yes, you can argue that, right? Again, because he has libertarian beliefs and there's a difference between libertarian and conservative and usually libertarians, unfortunately are making something like seventh grade arguments that are nice in theory but don't work in the real world. Trump is a real world guy and Trump's going, boy, it's hard for me to govern with such slim majorities when I have guys that have an R next to their name who vote against the big, beautiful bill, who vote against the border wall, this, that, the other thing. So that's why Trump is pissed about this.

41:25But now there's some interesting numbers coming out of this. And again, we will see what happens tonight. But Trump has an unbelievable track record. If Trump endorses somebody, they win. But don't take my word for it. Here's that little hopped up guy, Harry Enten, over on CNN with his big screen and his numbers. So President Trump endorsed an opponent here. How does President Trump do in general when he endorses a Republican primary? You know, we've quoted the movie Good Burger every single time, basically, when we've done this. When, in fact, you go against President Trump, you go on the grinder, and you could just see this.

41:57Times Trump endorses have won in GOP primaries. It's about 95 % each of the last four cycles. Now, I will note, you know, sometimes he endorses and there's no real challenger. But even in those cases, the challengers to the incumbent have won a majority of the time as well. The power of a Trump endorsement is still sky high. And we'll see tomorrow if that happens with Thomas Massimo. OK, so you can't really argue with the numbers on that. When Trump endorses for whatever reason, and yes, he pointed out sometimes it's a weak primary candidate or whatever it is. But 95 percent of the time, the Republican that Trump endorses wins.

42:32And that shows you that Trump, for all the Tucker screaming and Megyn Kelly screaming and everything else, everyone's abandoning Trump. It just simply isn't true. I mean, Harry Anton, again, CNN is no friend to Trump, but they put the poll up two weeks ago, about 97 % support amongst the base. So he's got huge support amongst the base. And when he endorses someone, they win. Maybe this will be an outlier. I don't know. We'll find out tonight, I suppose. But here's a bit more from Anton talking about how Massey's odds since Trump just got involved in this over the last couple of days have seemingly collapsed.

43:05Look at this chance that Massey is in fact the Kentucky Ford GOP nominee. It has been falling considerably over the last 10 days, according to the cash prediction market. Look at this. It was 71 percent 10 days ago. Look where that number is now. It's 44 percent. So chances more likely than not, though it is very close, very close, that Massey will, in fact, go down to defeat. But again, we're just going to have to wait and see the votes getting cast and counted because this is quite close. But any time that incumbent member of Congress goes down, he has done something seriously wrong in the minds of the voters.

43:38And in this case, if Massey goes down, it is that he crossed Donald John Trump. Right. So 71 percent to what was that, 44 percent, something like that. Like that's a massive collapse in about two weeks. And it's only in the last two weeks that Trump got involved in this thing. He's running against this guy, Ed Galleran. Here he is talking about how Massey basically votes with the Dems. To that, I say this race is a referendum for sure. It's a referendum to see if coastal elite liberal Democrats can buy a seat in Congress under the guise of a rhino Republican who has served for 14 years and is nicknamed Miss Representative Massey.

44:21Our term limits, Tom, depending on what county you're here in my district of 21 counties. He's got a problem for every solution. He continues to be the MVP of the squad. He won that in 2025, hands down. He's the front runner for 2026. It's a pretty low bar, as we say in Kentucky, when you get the endorsement of the New York Times, that left wing liberal congressman from California, Roe Conner, Joey Mayhart and the ladies from The View, and to put a bow on it, that Crockett lady from Texas. Right. So that's what I want to address here. Again, I want to make it clear. I am not going after Massey personally.

44:56I've only had good experiences with him and I hope I can interview him again. And he's always been very gracious to me. there is something, to me, the issue he's facing right now is he went so deep on that Trump is either a pedophile or involved in the Epstein thing or protecting the Epstein thing, that Trump was like, I'm not gonna deal with, I'm just not gonna have it with this guy anymore. On top of that, and that's, by the way, that's the secondary thing. The first thing, the primary thing is that Massey often votes with Democrats, or at least does not vote with Republicans. So to the point of how the New York Times is endorsing this guy, You know, what this reminds me of is sort of like when Marjorie Taylor Greene was hated by everybody on The View, right?

45:38And then she turned on Trump and what happened? They bring her on and they glaze her. What happened? Liz Cheney was hated by everybody on the Democrat side of things. Then she goes against Trump and then she's on The View and on all of the other shows and they're telling you how great she is. And then of course she loses her primary to Harriet Hagelman by 80 points or something. But look at this list. I saw this on Twitter. Look at this list of people and organizations supporting Massey right now, and you just have to take it for what it is. Code Pink, they are a far left, communist, loony organization.

46:11Ro Khanna, we've discussed him. New York Times, Al Jazeera, Hassan Piker, the craziest of all the far left influencers, Mother Jones, a far left rag, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Summer Lee, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson. That's pretty nutty. Now to give you just a little more context, the average Republican in the House votes with Trump 95 % of the time, 95 % of the time. Massey has voted with Trump 77 % of the time. So it's not that he's never voting with Trump, but that's a pretty significant difference, an 18 percentage point difference on when he votes with Trump.

46:48And again, because the margins are so slim, Trump wants people that will back him. That fully makes sense. So anyway, let's leave that there. We will see what happens. I wanna jump to one or two other things, because there's another interesting fight, and one of the things I'm really trying to do on the show, especially, I've always tried to do it, but especially in the backdrop of America's 250, is paint that there is an incredibly bright future on the horizon, and AI is so going to change things, and it's going to make things cheaper, and we are going to have abundance, and the world of robotics and AI is just gonna look so fundamentally different.

47:21If you think about the difference between your grandparents' life, some of whom maybe didn't have even have the radio, right? Or certainly didn't have TV. And then the world that they got to see, like the world that we are in right now is gonna be our grandchildren are gonna think we were so simple like cavemen basically. So I wanna talk a little bit about AI here. And there was an interesting decision because as you probably know, Elon Musk and Sam Altman, who basically both created OpenAI together and then had a falling out over the direction of which way it was going. They got into a lawsuit and Elon was basically suing Altman.

48:01He actually lost the initial portion of the case. Let's take a look. Musk has lost his lawsuit against OpenAI and its top executives. Musk contended they betrayed him by turning his vision of an artificial intelligence nonprofit into a money-making enterprise. Fox Business correspondent Kelly Saberi has the verdict tonight from Los Angeles. Good evening, Kelly. Hi, Brett. After less than two hours of deliberations, a federal jury rejected Elon Musk's claims against his OpenAI co-founders, now CEO Sam Altman and President Greg Brockman. Jurors decided unanimously that the claims of breach of charitable trust were filed outside the statute of limitations, ultimately dismissing all other claims within the case.

48:46Musk, who left OpenAI before the release of ChatGPT, accused his co-founders of abandoning the company's charitable mission to make certain that no single person or company controls artificial intelligence by creating an open source nonprofit. Okay, so Elon believes that he and Sam had agreed we were going to do this open source and it was going to be nonprofit and it was going to be as sort of fair and equitable in terms of information as possible. Well, the grand jury apparently, I mean, it basically came down to statute of limitations. They're basically arguing there must've been something in the contract as to when Elon would be able to make a claim and apparently that statute of limitations had passed.

49:27So I'll just go on the assumption that that is right. I'll read Elon's statement in just a second. But now, as you know, Elon is now doing Grok. Grok happens to be, because I'm an ex guy usually, and obviously the respect I have for Elon and free speech and everything else, Grok is the agent, the AI agent that I use, but there is ChatGPT, which was based off OpenAI. There's a gajillion others, and there's gonna be an AI war to basically see who is gonna be the king. And once you are the king of AI, you will be the king of information. And as, oh, I got a good one here, as...

50:03Oh my God. When you control the mail, you control information. The fat guy in Seinfeld. Newman. Newman, thank you. Oh my God. As Newman said to Kramer, When you control the mail, you control information. And that's really what this war is about, that when you control AI, you will control information. Here's Elon's response. I can't believe I just forgot Newman's name. That is just weak. You know, I'm crashing because I had all the carbs in New York and then I was sharp yesterday and then now I haven't had any carbs. Here's Elon on the judgment. He said, regarding the open AI case, the judge and jury never actually ruled on the merits of the case just under calendar technicality.

50:43I just addressed that. There is no question to anyone following the case in detail that Altman and Brockman did in fact enrich themselves by stealing a charity. The only question is when they did it. I will be filing an appeal with the Ninth Circuit because creating a precedent to loot charities is incredibly destructive to charitable giving. In America, OpenAI was founded to benefit all of humanity. Okay, so he just addressed what I acknowledged. He's acknowledging that the statute of limitations as to when he could file and go against them legally, he passed. He's acknowledging that that is the truth.

51:16What he is then saying is that is not enough because this thing was created as a charity and now it has become a profitable business that he has nothing to do with. That all can be fought out in the courts. The reason I think that this story is important is because again, all of these AI models, you're all probably using them already, right? Like I'm trying to figure out what we're doing in August when I go off the grid. And it's like three years ago, I was just Googling things and Googling hotels and venues and all of these places and everything, and flights and everything. I'm doing everything via Grok right now.

51:49So there has been a shift, right? It's sort of think of the world, I don't know, pre-Google or something. We say you're gonna Google it, but before that, there were a couple search engines, then Google became the ubiquitous one. So this actually is a huge story. Here's Elon talking to Tucker. This is a while ago before Tucker went off the deep end, talking about how he doesn't trust Sam Altman and what he might do with OpenAI. I don't trust OpenAI. I mean, you know, I started that company as a nonprofit open source. I named a company, OpenAI, as an open source, now extremely close source and maximizing profit.

52:23Altman got rich, didn't he? At various points, he's claimed not to be getting rich, but he's claimed many things that were false. So I don't trust Sam Altman, And I don't think we want to have the most powerful AI in the world controlled by someone who is not trustworthy. Okay, so it remains to be seen as to whether open AI will become the most powerful AI in the world. He's working on Grok. There's, what other ones are there? There you got Chad, JBT, you got Grok, anything else you got, you got Claude. I mean, there's a whole bunch of these things. And again, we will see where the winner is. I believe we have the video.

52:56We have to show it in honor of the great postal worker, Newman of the Upper West Side. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I hear you got some lip reader working for you. You gotta let me use it for one day, just one day. Can't do it, Newman. But, but Jerry, we got, we got this new supervisor down at the post office. He's working behind this glass. I know they're talking about me. They're gonna transfer me, I know it. Two hours, give me two hours. It's not gonna happen. All right, all right, all right, you go ahead. You go ahead, you keep it secret. But you remember this. When you control the mail, you control information.

53:32And I think that clip explains the AI race. Did that make sense? It sort of does make sense. All right, let's end on this though. Look, they'll fight it out over AI. We have this interesting election in Kentucky today. You see which way New York's going with taxes. All of the stuff we covered today. Well, what kind of future do we want? I think that most of us want a future where there's abundance, where there's opportunity, where there's, I don't know, love, Elon? Let's say you're praying to God and you ask for a given future. What future do you want God to give you? And probably a future where there's amazing abundance for all, where everybody has incredible medical care and we have this, you know.

54:18And in fact, we're saying anything can be cured, where no one is hungry and people are free to do what they would like. I think that's probably the best future. And peace, peace and love. Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, always worry about, like, if you wish for something, does it actually become some dystopian version of that? But certainly love. I mean, I think we want a future with love. That seems like a no-brainer. All right, so love would be nice, but if we can go into a technological future where we can create things faster and cheaper and we can make a government that is more transparent and there's more competition, I mean, I think you can see how we've tied this all together here.

54:55Like, there's a chance. There's a chance. but it won't be with people who just have the dimmest view of the world, which is give up your autonomy and your hopes and your dreams to a system that probably doesn't care about you that much. I, however, do care about you, and that's why we do a post-game show every day at rubenreport.locals.com. We'll see you there in 30 seconds. Thank you for watching. Goodbye. Bye-bye. Okay, we have it in our side. Fire. Boom.

55:31Thank you.

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