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25:38That's what Bernie and AOC's rallies are all about. These people were firing at border agents. They had body armor, et cetera, et cetera. Here's an image of 12 of the mugshots of these people. Are these dangerous right-wing white supremacists or they all look like kind of run-of-the-mill lefties and they've got their literature and they've got their body armor and their weapons and all of those things. And we've known, we've known for a while. I mean, what have I been saying for a while as it comes to the Hamas protests all over the place? It's like, it's one thing they yell river to the sea, fine, but at some point they'll decide to put on suicide vests.

26:13Of course they will. They believe that political violence is okay. Where was all of the left when it came to, I don't know, the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO in Midtown New York City by Luigi Mangione? He's now a hero to much of the left. Yes, he actually is, believe it or not. So we know that when you, and at some point, if you say, it's ironic, they tell us words are violence and they don't seem to think that violence is violence. But if you're going to gin up a set of people, especially with algorithms and the way that our education system has failed them, all put the images up again, because those are all relatively young.

26:49Like all of these, they all look like they're what? Probably in their mid twenties. Maybe the guy looks a little bit older there, upper middle, but they all look like relatively young people. So what would happen to a society over time if you had education system that was constantly telling them that the founding of the country was bad? Still waiting in line? Again? That's time you'll never get back. Save time and money with Stamps.com. Over 4 million businesses have skipped the line with Stamps.com. Join them to save up to 90 % off carrier rates from your computer or phone right now. Print postage for certified mail, registered mail, and packages in seconds.

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28:34I'm gonna be part of an insurrection and call for anarchy and all of these things. Like I don't have sympathy for any of them in that they tried to do some pretty horrific things and were shooting at federal officers. But you have to have, in the meta sense, I suppose you could have sympathy for young people whose brains are broken. and then you have a media that pushes all of this nonsense and all the layers, the institutional layer and everything else. Here's Tom Homan talking about how they have been warning about this rise in extremism within these, barely fringe, but within these, let's say progressive enclaves.

29:09Been around a long time. I said if the rhetoric didn't decrease significantly, it's gonna end up with loss of life. It's gonna end up with a use of force, either against a protester turning criminal or against ICE or Border Patrol agent. Someone's going to be seriously, seriously injured if not killed. And, of course, the media attacked me. You know, fear of my home. He's threatening that someone's going to die. Look, I've been around a long time. You've got members of Congress, J-PAL, comparing to terrorists. AOC says we're all there violating people's civil rights and constitutional rights. You've got Jeffrey Zaldi running his mouth about the Gestapo.

29:45You know, and the ramped up rhetoric is going to cause a situation where someone loses their life. We saw that today. I was hoping I'd be wrong, but I wasn't. And I'll tell you something else. It's not the end. Unless we stop the hateful rhetoric against ICE and Border Patrol comparing them to Nazis, there's going to be more situations like that. Yeah, that's just absolutely right. It's just one of those things that is obviously true. What did you think for a decade? You kept calling all of these people Nazis and Donald Trump Hitler. Then he gets into power, starts doing what he said he was gonna do, which was clean up the border and deport illegals.

30:24But then you have this again. Brain broken is the best way to describe it. You have a brain broken set of the populace that then is also kind of told being violent is okay. And then you have the Democrats that are constantly, we have to unmask ICE and they're the Nazis and all of those things. And then what do you get? you get a set of people that are going to be actual insurrectionists. Not like the one day we got a Lego set, let's go to the Capitol for one freaking day insurrectionists, but real planned out coordinated insurrectionists. Here's Stephen Miller on that. ICE agents, border patrol agents, cops are now getting shot at.

31:03How is this happening? It's happening because, Jesse, there is an insurrectionist movement in the Democratic Party that is inspiring domestic terrorism against ICE. When you have the mayor of Los Angeles mobilizing agitators, mobilizing the mob against ICE, saying that federal law enforcement has to leave her city, this is a settled constitutional question. Federal law is the supreme law of the land. You cannot nullify it. You cannot succeed from it. It is the law of the United States of America. So these insurrectionist Democrats are every day engaging in rhetoric that is incentivizing, that is encouraging, that is fomenting violent terrorist attacks against ICE and ICE officers.

31:52Not only in the shootings that you've seen recently, but ICE officers are being doxed. Their families and children are being threatened. Their addresses are being posted online. They were being subjected to a campaign of terror by these radical Democrats. Yeah, and we know that is true, but don't take my word for it. Here's an old-fashioned internet compilation of Dems demonizing ICE. Every single ICE agent who's engaged in this aggressive overreach, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will of course be identified. This is not the 1930s. Secret police who are masked, who are intimidating, who are scaring people.

32:32these Gestapo-like tactics. This is Gestapo-like behavior. Donald Trump's modern-day Gestapo is scooping folks up off the streets. When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing people off the streets of Poland, it does look like a Gestapo operation. You posted on social media that, quote, ICE is acting like a terrorist force. ICE agents, they are coming and kidnapping and disappearing people on the streets of the United States. But this terror campaign of having masked people rolling up in vans. But we also have to talk about the agents themselves that are carrying this out. If you have any decency, quit now.

33:16Because just doing what you were told has been the justification for some of the worst wars and crimes against humanity. The level of hypocrisy and everything else is just insane. First off, the Gestapo going on the streets of Poland, they were pulling their own citizens, right? That was part of the problem, let's say, okay, without doing too much of a deep dive on this Gestapo. But what these guys are doing are doing exactly what the president promised, and they're taking illegals who shouldn't be here. They're the ones defending the law. All of the people that we just showed you there, Those are the people that don't want the law defended.

33:55Those are the people that don't seem to care about their constituents or Americans or anything else. But after you hear a compilation like that, where they're called, what were they called? Terrorists, Gestapo, like we know the usual Nazi stuff, white supremacists and everything else, demanding they take their masks off, which ironically, they love the Hamas guys in the streets with the masks. They don't like it when the good guys have the masks, even though they're the ones under the threat of being doxxed and then having someone go after their kids or show up at their house or anything else.

34:21So it's incredible because every single thing that they say is completely the reverse of the truth. It's not 179 degrees, it's 180 degrees, right? It's 180 degrees, the reverse. But this is what they do with everything. And then you wonder, so why is it that a group of, I don't know, again, should you show that picture one more time? It's just worth showing. Like, these are just human beings. Something happened to these people, right? Like, something happened to these people along the way. and you go, okay, so what happened to these young girls that they would end up with body armor and leaflets for insurrection and shooting at border agents?

34:56Well, you don't have to think about it that much, right? It's kind of obvious. They were told that Nazis took over the country. The world is gonna end because of climate change, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Algorithmic manipulation. And then next thing you know, they are going crazy. Now, interestingly, this is a great clip because the Democrats have a huge problem on their hand right now. They've had a series of problems and they always make the wrong choice. and I have no doubt that that's what they'll do here. But over on The View, Alyssa Farah, and you know she's the pet Republican who gets the cookie and just sits there and takes abuse, but every now and again says something, saying they had Hakeem Jeffries on.

35:30And Alyssa Farah asked Hakeem, Timo Obama, who apparently is somehow like, he talks. He talked for eight hours without peeing. Also very impressive. But he is one of the leaders of the Democrat Party. She asked him if it's a good strategy to defund ICE And watch the tension with the internal tension with this guy. He knows the inmates are running the asylum. He, as this quasi-humanoid, not very advanced robot trying to be like a moderate dem, doesn't know what to do with it. And they are just screwed. Watch this. Now, some Democrats, amid the criticisms of ICE right now to do these ICE raids, have started calling for defunding ICE.

36:08Do you think that's effective going into the midterms? And do you support those calls? Well, I definitely think that, you know, we need aggressive oversight as it relates to the overly aggressive behavior that we've seen, you know, from ICE, from the Department of Homeland Security. It's not what the American people actually, in my view, voted for. Yeah, actually, it is. And what over you? So, of course, what do you want? You have more oversight. So that's your problem. We have all these ICE agents out there doing their job. the very same people who you're saying should be demasked and calling them extremists and everything else.

36:42The issue is for you, if we just had a little more government over, if Trump would just have a little more government oversight on them, then things would be okay. Of course it's nonsense. And then to say this isn't what people voted for, it's exactly what people voted for. I don't know one person that voted for Donald Trump that is seeing what ICE is doing and is suddenly like, oh my God, this isn't what I voted for, right? Now you might argue that, okay, are they gonna get more law-abiding, it's an oxymoron, but law-abiding illegals than you intended? Maybe. And is there some debate around what do you do?

37:15I've said it from the beginning. Is there some difference between someone who's been here for 30 years and otherwise been law-abiding and the guy who just got in a year ago through Biden's non-wall and then was also committing crime? Of course, there's some difference there, but at the end of the day, are they both illegal? The answer just is yes, right? Like that's just like the legal answer to that is yes. But I don't, and I would, I query you guys. Do you know anyone that voted for Donald Trump and is pissed about what's happening right now or thinks too much is going on or thinks ICE is being unfair?

37:51Again, Trump gave the cities and the states months. They gave them a freaking app. They told them get on a list so that if you leave, maybe you'll come back in. And what more could you, but he just, and this is what they do with everything. Trump's actually doing the things that he promised to do. And it's just that we just didn't have enough over. I just don't like the tone he's doing. It's just the freaking tone. It's just the oversight and the tone. And can we get a little more of that? Let's talk about 1775 coffee. And then we'll get to more on the ridiculous media and the behavior towards Trump as it pertains to this actual tragedy in Texas.

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39:35That new couch I just bought. RVs and homes washed away by the raging river. He backed up to a trailer and he had to leave. That's how fast the water was coming. The water was coming up the hill probably five feet every second. David Chambers owns this RV park in the city of Centerpoint. When he learned about the incoming flood, he tried to come help save people. And while they survived, they are now working to pick up the pieces. All right. So the waters mostly have receded at this point, and they're starting in the cleanup, and they're still going to find bodies and everything else. Sounds like about 104 people.

40:09Look, tragedies happen all the time. They happen when we get massive hurricanes here in Florida. They happen when we get, you know, what was it, Hurricane Helene up in North Carolina about a year ago, you get earthquakes. You get bad hail. There are twisters, all sorts of things. The problem, and humans, as I said yesterday, the best that humans can do is hopefully you've elected competent people so that when the acts of God happen, when the shit hits the fan, that you can't stop it from happening, right? We're not gods. We can't stop these things from happening. But what we can do is hopefully have built infrastructure that's proper, have elected the right people so that systems are in place.

40:54So emergency responders actually know what to do. So red tape has been cut so that you could rebuild a bridge quickly or make sure that electric poles could go up quickly or everything else. And clearly in some places in America, we do that to the best of our ability, like here in Florida, where we're, you know, we're sort of the number one. They're going to get smashed by hurricanes every year. So far in 25, we've actually been basically okay, but we're rolling into hurricane season right now. It's mostly through the hardcore part of August into September, so we'll see. But we know that we have some level of functionality here.

41:26Now, the broader issue as it pertains to all of this, beyond the real tragedy, is what the media does when it relates to all of these things and how, of course, now we have a Republican administration with Donald Trump at the helm of it and how they are, of course, going to blame him. So here is Joe Scarborough. We haven't shown you a video of him over on the televised mental institution known as MSNBC for a while. And he starts making sense, you'll see, for the first two or three sentences. And then watch where the but comes in. It's always about the but. Just on government staffing, it is far, far too early to draw any lines between a lack of government staffing, cuts, and what happened here.

42:09But much like after the plane accident, the plane crash in Washington, D.C. in January this year, people are going to look. Why was there only one person here? I'm sure people are going to be asking, why was the person who coordinated the emergency response not on? But it seems to me, David, there's just a bigger question as we move forward for the next flood, the next storm, the next hurricane. We've been talking about this an awful lot over the last six months. The group of people that put together Project 2025, the group of people in Washington that have talked about cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts.

42:50Well, they're talking about cutting eight, nine percent of the budget. We've always said this, the eight or nine percent of the budget that is actually what government does to help people to save people's lives beyond defense, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and interest on the day. He is not a good man. Did you get what he did there? He said it's far too early. That's how he opened up that little segment right there. It's far too early to talk about it. And then he spent the rest of that talking about the thing he said it's far too early to talk about and then invited a guest on to do it.

43:27And yes, oh, somehow, somehow the argument then would be that if Joe Biden was president right now, that those floods would not have washed away those homes and that those 104 people would be OK because the budget would be slightly different. And the implication, and we're gonna get to this, the implication is that the area there, the local weather people were understaffed, so they were not able to put out warnings. That's the implication. We're gonna clean that up in just a moment. But now I wanna show you three videos. And everyone loves these videos. It's just comparing and contrasting how media treats natural disasters when it's a Democrat versus when it's a Republican.

44:04So you're gonna see 2024 coverage. We'll start with CNN's Abby Phillips, Her feelings about Hurricane Helene in 2024 when Joe Biden was president versus this Texas flood in 2025 when Donald Trump is. We have three versions of these. We'll start with CNN. Why does Donald Trump continue to insist on politicizing a storm? The only person making an accusation that people are not getting what they've asked for is Trump. The only person who is politicizing this is Donald Trump. He's the one guy doing it. The doge of it all was essentially all the things that the federal government is spending money on for the most part is waste and fraud.

44:42But clearly there are some things where spending money saves lives and it may not save lives in the moment that you spend it. But at some point, somebody's life, somebody's child could have been saved. Ah, so let me get this straight, Abby Phillips. When Joe Biden was president, the issue was that Donald Trump was politicizing it because he was trying to get those people more help. And we actually do know that the Biden administration did not do much. And now that Donald Trump is president, you can politicize it in the middle of it because this has something to do with Doge. And again, we're gonna get to the staffing issue in just a second in case you're watching her going, well, maybe she's Abby Phillips over on CNN and she went to Harvard.

45:25She knows what she's doing. Maybe there is a staffing issue. We'll clean that up. Let's continue. Adding to all of that chaos, all of that concern is politics and the rampant disinformation that's being peddled by Donald Trump and some Republicans politicizing a natural disaster. What FEMA is warning about, there's been so much doubt sewn into it that people no longer trust, you know, the NBC News, the MSNBCs, et cetera, of the world. Instead, they trust a person that they see on their social media feed. There are also questions about cuts to critical systems like the National Weather Service, which handles forecasting.

46:02Did those cuts hurt the response time or the ability of officials to coordinate? OK, Katie Ter, so in 2024, you guys get it. She didn't want it to be politicized. She wants people to trust her and not people on social media. Now she's allowed to ask some questions about the funding of these things. And again, we'll get to that in just a moment. But let's show you one more. It's my favorite chick over on CNN, Dana. There's a better way to buy blinds, shades, shutters and drapery. and it's called 3-Day Blinds. 3-Day Blinds is the leading manufacturer of custom blinds, shades, shutters, and drapery.

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48:00And does that concern you about your fellow North Carolinians? You have migrants being housed in luxury hotels in New York City. We have paid so much money from our tax dollars into the crisis that didn't need to happen. We could redirect money to help people immediately on the ground in North Carolina. They're saying that they have probably going to have a situation coming up in the next several days. That's a separate tranche of money. That's a separate tranche of money. Just talking about the federal government and even the local government, two Texas National Weather Service offices involved in forecasting and warning about flooding on the Guadalupe River are missing some key staff members.

48:40a director of the NWS union, told CNN that the Austin San Antonio office is missing a warning coordination meteorologist due to the Trump administration's buyouts. All right. So you get it. Again, 2024, North Carolina, Biden's in charge. We're going to go after Trump for spreading misinformation. It's a different tranche of money to help the people in North Carolina while we're putting up these people in luxury hotels. Nonsense. And now, suddenly she's very concerned because what they want you to think is that Donald Trump did something that led to this. So the implication there is that there wasn't proper staffing with the weather service in that area and they weren't warning about what might happen with this river, et cetera, et cetera.

49:21Well, ironically, or not ironically, I guess, obviously this is according to the AP, which is no friendly to Donald Trump. Weather service had extra staffers. That's right. The national weather service office in new bronze fells, which delivers forecasts for Austin, San Antonio and the surrounding areas, had extra staff on duty during the storms, Runyon said, where the office would typically have two forecasters on duty during clear weather. They had up to five on staff. There were extra people in here that night, and that's typical in every weather service office. You staff up for an event and bring people in in overtime and hold people over.

49:56So they had extra staffing. That's according to the New York, to the AP. Do you think the AP wants to run a headline that's friendly to Donald Trump, but why is it that we were just able to very quickly and easily find videos online of CNN, MSNBC, et cetera, saying that this is a staffing issue and it's a cutting issue when clearly it wasn't? And I would even go a step further than that. Whether they were staffed properly, whether they had two people or five people or nine people or anything else, doesn't mean you can stop natural disasters. Again, the hope is you've put in the proper systems in place to mitigate the damage, to have early warning and everything else, but bad things are gonna happen one way or another.

50:37And I would hope, I would hope that if all of this was reversed and there was a Democrat in charge, that I would not be immediately blaming them for everything unless, unless it had become patently obvious that everyone in their administration was hired for the wrong reasons. And that you actually can make a legitimate claim on with the Biden administration because they hired people repeatedly based on their gender and their skin color and their genitals and their sexual attraction and a whole bunch of other stuff rather than their qualifications. So that really is the issue here. But now let's move on for a moment.

51:15We'll stick with someone over on CNN, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. And Dr. Gupta went on Gavin Newsom's podcast. Have they just dropped the ball on us? They're just not responding to us anymore? They're not responding. They're just not. Okay, so we tried to get me on Gavin's show. Gab, I wanna do the show, man. Anyway, they are not responding to us anymore. But anyway, Sanjay Gupta, he's CNN's resident doctor. He went on Gavin Newsom's show just this week. I mean, this is just so crazy to explain that COVID vaccines actually did work. They didn't, by the way. They did not stop people from getting COVID nor stop you from transmitting COVID.

51:57But it was really just about a communication problem. I think, you know, when textbooks are written about scientific achievements, the idea that they were able to create a vaccine essentially in nine months and be able to protect so many people. There's a lot of people who think they don't work. They do work. I mean, if you looked at the data, California or the country as a whole, who was in the hospital during the huge sort of swings in COVID? It was primarily people who were not vaccinated. So it was helping protect against illness and death. What I think was unfortunate, frankly, and this was a communications problem, was that they seem to also intimate that it would protect you from getting COVID at all, from carrying it.

52:40And there was not great evidence behind that. And, you know, we reported as such that you don't have great evidence that shows that. No, no, Sanjay, you didn't. They seem to also intimate that you wouldn't get COVID. Actually, Joe Biden, you won't get nor transmit COVID. Maddow, Rachel Maddow, you won't get with that long winded babbling. You won't get it. It's the greatest thing ever. Fauci, you won't get nor transmit it. They seem to intimate. You were all part of it. Now, the thing is, the reason people say, Dave, how do you not get duped by all of these things? I just, I have a way. I have a way because I remember things from the past.

53:20And when COVID happened, I had remembered that a few years before that, during a massive pandemic, that he was pushing a drug called Ribivarin. And here's Sanjay on that. The drug Ribivarin has been shown to be effective against this virus. Yet Homeland Security is telling the CDC not to make any announcements until stockpiles of the drug can be secure. Well, Dr. Gupta, there continue to be evaluations of several drugs. Ribivarin is among them. But right now. Oh, right. That was a movie. That was a movie called Contagion from 2011, which is a spectacular movie if you haven't seen it. Matt Damon's in it, Gwyneth Paltrow's in it.

53:58You got Matrix guy over there and Lawrence Fishburne and a whole bunch of others. But you see, they're just actors. There is Sanjay Gupta acting, telling people that Ribavarin is pretty good, just the same way that they told us the vaccines were good. It's just all theater, absolute theater. And let's jump around here a little bit because this, I'm just trying to illustrate just like, they just got nothing right now. They've really just got nothing. So look at this once again from Timu Obama on the Instagram. Watch this. There he is. House Democrats will keep the pressure on Trump's one big ugly bill.

54:36And there he is. Bad angle, man. You look ridiculous. Your batting stance is terrible. You gotta, first off, he's choking up on the bat a little too much, but you gotta put those hands together. I mean, anyway, Conor, you were a ball player. You gotta just, it's like, come on, man. But they just have nothing. So, okay, congratulations. You filibustered the bill for eight hours. You're standing there with the bat. I don't know, you know, if a, ironically, if a Republican was standing with a bat, new people would be saying it was a threat of violence and everything else. But why is it, if nothing else, if, let's just say, let's say Trump is kind of bad.

55:07I'll try to do it the best way. I'll give you guys a little bit. Trump's really kind of a bad guy. And all the people he's hired are bad guys. And these ICE people are bad. It's just a whole bunch of bad, bad people. Okay, fine. That's the right. They're just bad, mean people. Well, why is it that in the places that you people govern that all hell is breaking out? All hell is breaking loose constantly. This is from Philly over the July 4th weekend. There's a better way to buy blinds, shades, shutters, and drapery. And it's called Three Day Blinds. Three Day Blinds is the leading manufacturer of custom blinds, shades, shutters, and drapery.

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57:25and that's why you make sure when you order a cheesesteak at patergino's you order it correctly a wit whiz, otherwise you're going to get shot. But you guys get it. It's just like, it's just endless violence in these places. Then the feds come and try to clean it up and they scream at them. All along, all along, what is happening? Well, it's the thing that I'm really gonna be trying to push all year, as long as it's real and honest, and it is, which is that there are a lot of good things happening in this country right now. So now I wanna jump over to Scott Besson because here he is talking about how the trade deals, you know, we've all been talking about the tariffs of the trade deals and how it affected the stock market, which is extremely high right now and everything else.

58:05Well, the trade deals are coming in soon and he's feeling quite good about them. Take a look. Yeah, we are going to have several announcements in the next 48 hours. And Joe, I think what President Trump is concerned about is the quality of the deals, not the quantity. As you could imagine, as he started herding the cats and trying to get everyone across the finish line when he said that there's a chance that countries could boomerang back to their April 2nd reciprocal tariff levels. We've had a lot of people change their tune in terms of negotiations. So my mailbox was full last night with a lot of new offers, a lot of new proposals.

58:51So it's going to be a busy couple of days. But importantly, too, that President Trump has said that the countries would not go back to the reciprocal rate until August 1st. All right. So this is getting us almost to endgame on that. What did I say from the beginning? It was a line I got from crypto and AI czar David Sachs. We have to see where all these trade deals land. Well, there you have it. Scott Besson saying, hey, in the next 48 hours, we're going to have some answers on that. My inbox is full. Things are looking better. And what he said was, it's quantity over quantity, right? So maybe not everything is going to come back perfect, but we will have a bunch of deals that will be better.

59:32And then maybe we figure out new ways of trading with people. So again, not going towards hysteria, just going to, oh, competent people are trying to do things. It takes a little time. I do want to show you this video though, because obviously the big story yesterday was that Elon is starting this America party and what the of ramifications will be of that. We do not know because it will, if it's going to really exist and pull from one side, it obviously is gonna pull from the Republicans, not from the Democrats, because it's all about fiscal responsibility. Democrats don't care about that. Obviously, the more libertarian leaning Republicans do.

1:00:03So we'll see where that shakes out. We'll have more on that in just a second. But also it does appear that some of the friction that has burst forth between Trump and Elon had a lot to do with Scott Besant and Elon. Here's Besant talking, well, here's a message that Besson has for Elon, the principles of Doge and maybe how Elon's personality sort of fit into all of that. I let you go. It's not a big secret that you had your differences with Elon Musk when he was working in the administration. He announced this weekend that he is starting a new political party. Does that worry the Trump administration?

1:00:38Look, the principles of Doge were very popular. I think if you looked at the polling, Elon was not. So I believe that the boards of directors at his various companies wanted him to come back and run those companies, which he is better at than anyone. So I imagine that those board of directors did not like this announcement yesterday and will be encouraging him to focus on his business activities, not his political activities. Let me try to give the devil his due here. I don't know that exactly that what Besson said there was exactly correct. The Doge mission statement was very popular and was exactly what we all voted for.

1:01:16And that's the thing that brought Trump and him together, right? So that, I do agree with that. His next thing was that it's more popular than Elon. I don't know, my feelings about Elon haven't changed at all. Look, I don't like some of the infighting here. Again, it's sort of like when they're always saying, oh, people are abandoning Trump in droves. It's like, I don't know that anyone has really turned on Elon other than people don't like the friction that now exists there. Now, is it possible that the people at the boards of the companies, You told me, what was it yesterday? Tesla was down about 6 % yesterday.

1:01:44Where are they at right now? We'll check on that in just a second. But I could see, I think that's a completely legitimate criticism. Let's say you were a shareholder or on the board of one of his companies and you thought, boy, he's too distracted over here or he's doing all of these other things or the political stuff of it puts some stank on our stocks. I could see why you'd be pissed at that. Up 2.5. Okay, so it was down about 6 yesterday. It's up 2.5 today. That's a bit of how the stock market goes. But I think, but that's like a legitimate criticism. If you were a Tesla shareholder on the board, you might be critical of that.

1:02:17I think that's fair to say. Now, what this all leads to though, is are we going to have an actual third party in America? And what could that do to our system? Here is CNN. And even though I think obviously the America party would ultimately help the Democrats because it splits the Republicans, here they are talking about how third parties are historically almost ridiculously unpopular. What's the history of third-party candidates in congressional races? Horrible, awful, terrible, terrible, terrible. What are we talking about here? All right, elected to Congress from a third party since 1970, just 0.2 % of all winners, of all winners were either third-party, independent, or right.

1:03:01And we're only talking about 24 out of over 13 ,000 winners. The bottom line is third party independents, they just don't succeed. Donald Trump is right when he's talking about the fact that third parties, simply put, don't work. This guy's talking like this the whole time, so it's kind of work. Listen, that may all be true. I'll grant you that what you just laid out there was true. What was it, 24 out of 3 ,000, something like that, whatever those numbers were, it doesn't even matter, that third parties don't do well. That's not a reason not to do a third party if you're Elon Musk, right? Elon, if I can only take Elon at his word and what his word is, I want the deficit to be reduced.

1:03:40I don't want us to be a debtor nation. It's going to destroy everything. If that really is what Elon believes, well, then it doesn't like telling Elon, oh, well, no one's ever done it before. No one's ever successfully launched a third party. Well, that would make him want to do it more. He's the man who does the impossible, right? It's similar to Trump. No, you'll never be president. Well, okay, I'm going to go ahead and do it. You can't fight the system. Well, yes, I can. Same thing as Elon, you can't go to Mars. Well, yes, I can. You can't make it so that you can implant something in the brain of a quadriplegic and then they can play chess with their mind.

1:04:09Yes, I damn well can. So the idea of getting up there and genuflecting with arms and nobody's ever done it, you think that's going to stop Elon? I think the thing that Elon may want to think about, however, is what Scott Jennings lays out here, which is what I've been talking about, which is that if you bring in a part, a third party now, ultimately, are you ushering in something much more dangerous? And I get why that argument kind of sucks, because then it's like, well, nothing will ever change. But here's Scott Jennings laying it out pretty cleanly. Yeah, I don't I don't know whether it's possible or not.

1:04:41I hope it is. And hope springs eternal where I come from. But I wish they would come back together. And I wish Elon, who I admire greatly and I think was a big part of what happened for the Republicans in 2024, would realize we live in a two party system. And, you know, from time to time, people try to go off and start these third parties. It never really works out. And the best way to affect change in American politics is to participate inside the party that best reflects what you want. As I understand it, Elon wants to save the country from going bankrupt, and he wants to save Western civilization, you know, from unfettered mass migration.

1:05:16Well, this is actually, this is the Republicans that best represent him. This is the platform. Musk reposted this from a user who asked, is this the America Party platform? and then listed the following priorities. And Musk replied, yeah, so I assume this is the platform. Reduced debt, responsible spending only, modernized military with AI and robotics, pro-tech, accelerate to win in AI, less regulation across the board, but especially in energy, free speech, pronatalist, which is policy that would promote higher birth rates, and centrist policies everywhere else. It's a lot of yada, yada, yada.

1:05:49He's a Republican, he's a Republican. He's a Republican. Yeah, so Scott is laying it out properly, right? Right, let's put this screenshot up of what the policies potentially are again, because Elon did respond to you out of this. So this is just a random person as far as I understand. Reduce debt, responsible spending only. Okay, so it is true that the big, beautiful bill will not reduce debt, but it is doing a lot of cuts. And Trump is saying that the cuts and everything else and the tax breaks and all those things are necessary and we do have to spend on border and whatever. But okay, you can see a difference, let's say, between Trump and Elon on that one.

1:06:18Modernized military with AI and robotics. I think Trump actually is all about that and has brought in some great tech people on that. but okay, let's say Elon wants to lean into that a little bit more. Let's just try to do this as fairly as possible. Pro-tech, accelerate to win AI. Trump is doing an absolute ton on that. We have AI czar David Sachs, who's one of Elon's best friends involved in the administration right now. Less regulation across the board, but especially in energy. I mean, drill, baby, drill, like that's absolutely Trump. Free speech, that's absolutely Trump. Pro-natalist, pro-family, meaning tax breaks to encourage people to have more kids so we don't have population collapse, absolutely Trump.

1:06:52and centrist policies everywhere else, whatever that might imply, let's say somewhat moderate on abortion or something like that, or you don't care about the gays or whatever, Trump is about all of that too, right? So Elon responds, yeah. So Scott's point is what I've been laying out here, which hopefully over time maybe gets Trump and Elon to put this thing back together because I'm pretty sure you weren't watching anyone else online that was screaming more for the last two years about the wide tent thing. And if at the very, let's say Elon, you're getting 80 % of what you want out of Trump. Now I get it, the debt thing's huge for you.

1:07:29So maybe that looms large so you don't view it as 80%. But if it's some big chunk of percentage that you're getting out of Trump, then the question is, are you gonna risk blowing up Trump, blowing up MAGA, and then causing something really horrific to come in like an AOC or even worse than that next time around in the name of getting the smaller percentage that you're really focused on. And that's something that Elon's gonna have to think about. And hopefully we'll be able to sit down with him and talk about it and all the rest of it. So I thought we'd end with this. Regardless of whether you fall more in the Elon camp on that, you fall more on the Trump camp on that, as long as you're not a crazy, wackadoodle progressive who thinks the government is here to just save you and the government here to tell you what to do, I think you're in line with what most Americans want.

1:08:14And I think that's a huge percentage of us, whether we know it or not. and there once was a man who originally was an actor who became a pretty good president who was also quite a good orator who explained a little something about that. We the people tell the government what to do. It doesn't tell us. We the people are the driver. The government is the car and we decide where it should go and by what route and how fast. Almost all the world's constitutions are documents in which governments tell the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which we the people tell the government what it is allowed to do.

1:08:55We the people are free. And I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics. As government expands, liberty contracts. Thanks. That's right, Ronald Reagan. And as the Democrats continue to veer off into Zorhan Mondami communism and socialism, and if only the government had more money to have bigger budgets, to do more things, even though it doesn't do anything well, like let them have that. They don't know when to stop. They cannot stop that car from careening off the cliffs.

1:09:36But the rest of us, and I really believe it is the vast majority of us, way bigger than Trump's election numbers. I think if most people really started thinking about it, what Ronald Reagan said right there really makes sense to people. Do you want the government to give you things, to tell you what your freedoms are, or is it innate in you and you're driving the car and the government just happens to be the vehicle? And that's actually quite a good analogy when it comes to Trump and Elon and Tesla and everything else, right? The government is the vehicle, we're the drivers, and we gotta figure out a way to stick together amidst the madness.

1:10:12Ladies and gentlemen, that is our program for today. I thank you for watching. We've got a postgame show at rubinreport.locals.com. And if you're watching on Rumble, jump over to Tim Pool right now. See you tomorrow.

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