The Brutal Details About Islam's Plan That the Media Ignores | Brigitte Gabriel

30 Jan 2026 · 47 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Brigitte Gabriel argues the Muslim Brotherhood has a long-running “plan for America” to infiltrate U.S. politics and align with left-wing groups to reshape policy and society, culminating in “Islamization” and suppression of LGBTQ+ and other minorities. She cites the Holy Land Foundation trial (2007–2008) and claims U.S. front organizations and name changes (e.g., CARE) are part of the strategy.

Guest backgrounds

Brigitte Gabriel is a New York Times bestselling author and founder of Act for America. She grew up as a Christian in Lebanon during the Civil War, fled, and later lived in Israel and the U.S. She frames her activism as preserving Western/Judeo-Christian values.

Key claims

ISNA advised President Obama; Muslim Student Association has more campus chapters than major parties; CARE is a Hamas front by another name; the left–Islamist coalition is coordinated via legal and activist groups; Trump should designate more chapters, state-by-state.

Notable examples

Holy Land Foundation evidence; “They Must Be Stopped” (2008); Ilhan Omar and Linda Sarsour; New York City Mayor Eric Adams–era allies; Mamdani as Muslim mayor; Lebanon and Iran as models of leftist suppression after Islamist takeover.

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Chapters

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The Muslim Brotherhood's Plan Unveiled

0:30 to 2:06

Explore the details of the Muslim Brotherhood's plan as revealed in a major terrorism trial.

“The Islamic Society of North America became advisors to President Obama about Middle East policy.”

Brigitte Gabriel's American Dream

2:26 to 4:51

Brigitte shares her journey as an immigrant and her passion for American values.

“And please don't ever play that clip again.”

The Historical Context of the Islamic Threat

4:51 to 7:30

Discuss the historical background of the Muslim Brotherhood's influence in America.

“After we make the money, after we have the children, after we have the family, after we drive a dependable car, we have a swimming pool in the backyard.”

Evidence of the Muslim Brotherhood's Influence

7:30 to 8:12

Brigitte highlights key evidence of the Muslim Brotherhood's operations in the U.S.

“I have flown all over the country, spoke at so many venues all across the country, from groups as small as eight people to groups as big as 10, 14 ,000 people in some of these big mega churches.”

Current Challenges with the Muslim Brotherhood

8:12 to 12:58

Examine the ongoing challenges posed by the Muslim Brotherhood and U.S. policy.

“handed down 108 guilty verdict to Muslim American and Muslim American organizations, raising money in the United States over$12 million, raised and sent overseas to support Islamic terrorism and terror activity.”

The Ongoing Fight Against Extremism

13:08 to 14:00

Brigitte discusses the current state of extremism and its connections to politics.

“So in some sense, he's just kind of working with the devil that he has to at the moment.”

Infiltration Tactics of the Muslim Brotherhood

14:00 to 16:44

Learn about the strategies used by the Muslim Brotherhood to infiltrate American political parties.

“In their plan, they detail about how they need to form groups that infiltrate the Republican Party as well as the Democratic Party, not just in the United States, but worldwide.”

Emotional Bonds and Victimhood

16:44 to 19:18

Explore how emotional connections and victim narratives are leveraged for political alliances.

“But it's kind of you have to kind of give the devil his due here.”

Consequences of the Red-Green Alliance

19:18 to 22:22

Discuss the potential fallout of the alliance between leftists and Islamists in America.

“The imagery you just put in my head between the Queers for Palestine and what I've got going through Ilhan and Linda and everything else is rather disgusting.”

Consequences of the Red-Green Alliance

23:51 to 24:39

Discuss the potential fallout of the alliance between leftists and Islamists in America.

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The Fall of Iran and its Global Implications

24:47 to 28:00

Analyze the impact of a potential regime change in Iran on radical Islam.

“So I should note, we're taping this on Tuesday.”

Qatar's Influence on American Universities

28:00 to 30:05

Learn about the role of Qatar and Saudi Arabia in shaping university policies in America.

“and then our colleges become bastions of leftism and completely the same stuff that you're arguing the Muslim Brotherhood wants to happen.”

The Need for Strong Republican Leadership

30:05 to 32:28

Discuss the importance of consistent Republican leadership to counteract liberal policies.

“Now, people may not agree with Israel, may not like Israel.”

Europe's Struggle with Radical Islam

32:28 to 35:09

Examine the parallels between Europe's demographic challenges and America's political landscape.

“Nobody wanted to listen to her either because people sometimes do not want to acknowledge the deaths facing them in the face, especially when it's a death of their immediate family member.”

The Connection Between Chaos and Political Power

35:09 to 39:38

Explore how chaos can be used by political factions to gain power and influence.

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The Connection Between Chaos and Political Power

40:32 to 41:21

Explore how chaos can be used by political factions to gain power and influence.

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Democrats' Focus on Power

41:27 to 42:00

Understand the motivations behind the Democratic Party's actions in the current political climate.

“Tim Walls literally announced he's not running for re-election.”

Democrats and Their Power Struggle

42:00 to 43:31

Discussing the motivations and strategies of the Democratic Party in relation to power retention.

“Like he's the last sane guy in the party.”

Activism vs. Entertainment

43:31 to 46:10

Exploring the difference between mere engagement and active participation in political movements.

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Activism vs. Entertainment

46:13 to 46:58

Exploring the difference between mere engagement and active participation in political movements.

“I named the organization Act for America.”

Closing Remarks and Future Plans

46:58 to 47:42

Concluding the discussion with reflections and plans for future engagements.

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0:59The Islamic Society of North America became advisors to President Obama about Middle East policy. Their plan is working perfectly. They're following it to the letter. Part of their plan is how to work with the left in order to impact policy, not just in the United States, but worldwide. So in this last election, while most people focused on, oh my goodness, Mabdani became the first mayor, Muslim mayor of New York City. Six Muslim mayors won the election that day. Europe is at stage four cancer. Europeans did not heed the warnings. And the perfect example is in Lebanon, once the Islamists won and they became the majority, they killed the lefties just as much as they killed the rest of us because they looked at them all, you're Christian idiots, you know, we're done with you now.

1:46We have no use for you. You already served your purpose. Can you explain, as it stands now at the beginning of 2026, what is the Muslim Brotherhood plan for America?

2:05All right, I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. And joining me today is a New York Times bestselling author, the founder of Act for America, and most importantly, the only person to ever bring Dave Rubin to tears on camera, my old friend Brigitte Gabriel. Brigitte, how are you? So delighted to see your face again, Dave. So glad to be with you. And please don't ever play that clip again. Oh my gosh. You looked great, but I was on my way driving to San Diego. Looked like a mess, you know. stop it stop it you're stunning and you know it for those that did not see that clip we will not put the b-roll in so you have to click over if you want to watch it but but you gave rigi really at the end of our first interview it was the first time we had ever met we were in my home studio this is probably around 2017 you the end of the show you gave just such an unbelievably wonderful explanation of why we should care about america why we should care about western values uh obviously that was connected to your life story of growing up as a Christian in Lebanon, and you've journeyed across the world.

3:14Now you live in Virginia, which seems to maybe be going the wrong way. But you, to me, when people ask me about you, which they often ask, because we've done this many times, I always say it's like, you are exactly the best of America. That's not a question, but that's how I'm starting this interview. Go. What do you want to talk about? Thank you so much, Dave. Thank you. You know, it's people like you and me. You know, I'm a firm believer to whom is given much is required. To whom much is given much is required. We are so fortunate to be in this country. We are so blessed to be successful, to have the ability to be everything we can be.

3:51The sky is the limit in America. And as an immigrant to this great country, I understand the gift that America is to the rest of the world. The gift that America is to every single individual. When you come to this country, whether you arrive here naked, You have your brain, you have your ability, you have your fire, the passion within your heart, the fire in your belly to be anything you want to be as long as you have the determination. And as long as you are a law-abiding citizen, you can be anything you want to be in this country. You can go from a beggar to a multimillionaire. We have stories after story after story of people doing that exactly.

4:31This is the greatness of America. This is why everybody from all over the world wants to come to America. Even those who hate America want to come here because they know what an incredible life we have. And that's why we fight so hard. That's why we dedicate our efforts to exposing the truth. Like what you do with your podcast, with my organization, founding my organization. Because I want it to make a difference. Because America is worth fighting for. And you know what? After we make the money, after we have the children, after we have the family, after we drive a dependable car, we have a swimming pool in the backyard.

5:10What else do we want? We want to make a difference in this world, inspire the next generation and preserve that which our great grandfathers in this country created for us. And I'm speaking figuratively because obviously I'm a new immigrant to America. But our founding fathers gave everything and laid their life on the line. and lost everything. Most of them died broke to give us the America that we have today. The least we can do is preserve it for the next generation. And you can see how Brigitte knows how to open a show and close a show right there, because that could have been the closer right there.

5:50So, you know, one of the things that I love about you is that your story, your personal story of growing up in Lebanon during the Civil War as a Christian, it mirrors much of what both of our friends Gad said. He grew up as a Jew in Lebanon. There's no Jews left in Lebanon. There's barely any Christians left. But you were Christian. He had you growing up at a similar time during the war, both having to flee. He ended up in Canada. You were temporarily in Israel and then eventually came to America. But then to fight for the values that your country, Lebanon, sort of had, or at least was veering towards.

6:23And then, you know, Islamists came in and took everything out. So I think the thing that put you on the map, at least for me, was about a decade ago, I'm sure you know what year it was, you gave a speech outlining the Muslim Brotherhood's plan for America. And we can show some B-roll of it, but you hold the document up and you're waving it at people saying, this is the plan to destroy America. And for, I think, a few years, people probably thought, oh, she's nuts or she's making this up or it's not real or some version of that. However, it has become very clear in the last year or two that not only is the Muslim Brotherhood very real, they are in many, many countries.

6:58They are sowing a lot of seeds of dissension and terror. So I guess first, when did that get on your radar and what year was that speech? It got on my radar in 2007. I detailed the Muslim Brotherhood plan in my New York Times bestseller that came out in 2008 titled They Must Be Stopped. So since 2008, I've been talking about this since 2008. I have I mean, 15 years ago, we're talking. I have flown all over the country, spoke at so many venues all across the country, from groups as small as eight people to groups as big as 10, 14 ,000 people in some of these big mega churches. And I would talk about it.

7:46People would shake their head. Well, you know, I don't know. And that's why I started taking it with me and showing it to people. Because, you know, we have become a society where, oh, I need to see it. Okay, here is the evidence. Now you can see it. And that Muslim Brotherhood plan was introduced as evidence in the Holy Land Foundation trial in Dallas, Texas, in 2007-2008, the largest terrorism financing trial in America's history, where our government handed down 108 guilty verdict to Muslim American and Muslim American organizations, raising money in the United States over$12 million, raised and sent overseas to support Islamic terrorism and terror activity.

8:29And in the last page of that plan, they list 29 front Islamic organizations set up in the United States for the destruction of America at our miserable hands, as they say it. And, you know, Obama came to power. And when I talk about these things and I talk about how ISNA, the number one organization on the Muslim Brotherhood Project in the list at the last page of their plan. ESNA, the Islamic Society of North America, became advisors to President Obama about Middle East policy. NAIT, the North Islamic American Trust, owns 90 % of the deed to American mosques in the United States. Number two on the list is the Muslim Student Association, which has more chapters on American college campuses than the Democrats and the Republicans combined.

9:18Number 22 on the list is IAP, Islamic Association for Palestine, which later became CARE, Council on American Islamic Relations. And the only reason they changed their name is because they wanted a name that sounded so peaceful, so unsuspecting to the gullible American public. so they can put themselves forward as not a Hamas front organization or a terror front organization, but as all this peaceful, wonderful council on American-Islamic relations. So that's when I started talking about these issues and look at where we are today. So, okay, so you raised the alarm on this stuff for years. You know, unfortunately, there was the Holy Land Foundation trial, obviously, and that worked out and we cut some of the funding.

10:04just, but largely the Muslim Brotherhood has completely, in some sense, I don't want to say taken over countries, but they're all over the world. They're in various countries with various chapters. Just a few months ago, the Trump administration placed a few of the chapters or listed a few of the chapters as terrorist organizations, but not all of them. What do you make of what's going on there? Well, look, I hope, I wish he did go out. We all do. You know, Designate them now. We are in power. You need to just do a sweeping designation. Now, I believe and trust in President Trump's brain, his intelligence, his deal making.

10:47And I believe the reason why he did not do sweeping blanket designation of the Muslim Brotherhood is because he still has to work with members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East who operate within countries. I mean, look at Qatar, look at Syria, look at the other places in the Middle East. So he needs to operate and work with these countries, Turkey, for example. I mean, look, Qatar and Turkey right now are on the board of peace for the Palestinian territory, for Gaza. So we can see that the president is having to walk on a very thin rope, on a very tight rope dealing with these countries.

11:25So I believe maybe that was the reason why he did not do a sweeping designation. And that's exactly why we are now working with the states on the state level. And that's exactly why we worked with Texas. We designated them in Texas. In Florida, you know, we love your governor, Rob DeSantis. We did it in Texas. And now we just did it in Arizona. We're working in Arizona. We just introduced it. So we're going now state by state, trying to do this for the next four years in order to show President Trump there's a lot of support across the United States. for their designation. And I am hoping that by the time President Trump finishes his administration in three years, he will be able to have a sweeping designation before he leaves office.

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13:23I mean, you know, we're a couple of years out of the BLM stuff and then it morphed into the Hamas rallies. Now it seems to be morphing into this anti-ice stuff. But, you know, there are always Palestinian flags at these things. You know, it's the Ilhan Omar and who's the one in Brooklyn, the awful one. You know who I'm talking about. Well, no, there's AOC, but the sarsour, you know, the usual just clown car of characters. Yeah. So what is their plan at the moment? How connected are they to the general upheaval that we see? Oh, their plan is working perfectly. They're following it to the letter.

13:59Part of their plan is how to work with the left in order to impact policy. In their plan, they detail about how they need to form groups that infiltrate the Republican Party as well as the Democratic Party, not just in the United States, but worldwide. But I'm going to focus on the United States. They instruct their followers to infiltrate both Republican Party and Democrat Party and rise within the ranks of the party so they can get in leadership positions to influence policy. We see them already doing that, both on the right and on the left. They have been doing that. But right now, we are seeing it specifically on the left.

14:35Because we are seeing, and this is exactly what the Muslim Brotherhood instructs, how to work with like-minded progressive organization on implementing change and advancing their cause. We're seeing this play out. We've seen it play out from 2010 until 2025, when basically the ACLU became the legal arm of care. when the Southern Poverty Law Center worked directly with CARE and worked directly with leftist organization, putting organizations like me on the hate list, per the coordination with CARE, et cetera, et cetera. So we've seen this cooperation going. As a matter of fact, in my last book titled Rise, which came out in 2018, I have a whole chapter titled The Leftist Islamist Coalition because they have literally built a coalition together, working together.

15:24And now in 2026, we have seen this coalition come into a mature stage where their candidates are elected to power. Mamdani, perfect example, elected and supported by an advanced push forward by leftist organizations, progressive groups who lifted him up, supported him and voted for him and got their people to vote for him. So in this last election, while most people focused on, oh my goodness, Mamdani became the first mayor, Muslim mayor of New York City, six mayors won the election that day. Six Muslim mayors won the election that day. Mamdani was one of them. To a 42 Muslim elected candidates, one out of 76 that ran in that election, 42 won.

16:15The majority of them are supported by leftist organization and progressive organizations who voted for them, got their groups out for them, raised money for them and got them into position to where they are. And they are working together. And that's exactly why we saw First Order of Mamdani remove the protection of Jews, you know, minority groups like Jews in New York. I mean, they lied through their teeth to get elected. And now we see the results. So in some sense, it seems obvious to me you can confuse the kind of generic queer for Palestine, purple haired dingbat at Columbia. But it's kind of you have to kind of give the devil his due here.

16:57It's sort of impressive that they can take all of these completely crazy leftist positions and then also sell it to the average Muslim who obviously isn't progressive. I mean, Islam is the least progressive religion. So they've done two things quite cleverly. But what they've done to the average Muslim seems more clever to me, in a sense. Yes, but it didn't take that hard because they played the victim card. And the victim card trumps everything else. You know, misery loves company. We all heard that growing up throughout our life. Misery loves company. So people love to get together and commiserate.

17:34And it's such a strong emotional bond that pulls people together. The emotional bond trumps anything else. You can have an intellectual conversation with somebody and you can agree with them intellectually on this, that or the other, or can disagree intellectually. But if you come together because you share a feeling, a very strong emotion, you will get together. Let me put it in normal terms, okay? Let me put it out of the box. When two people are attracted to each other sexually, when there is this sexual chemistry between two, they may hate each other. They may be a prisoner and the prison guard.

18:18They are in totally opposite sides. But when you have a sexual drive so strong, which they both share, they'll end up making love because that's what brought them together. And it was stronger than any difference they have. Why? Because it was a feeling, an emotional drive. So the victimhood is the strong emotional drive that will equate to sexual attraction between the left and the Islamist. So when they can sit together and say, you've been a victim, we've been a victim. them oh you lost loved ones who died in gaza or how you've been persecuted because you're a muslim we've been persecuted they killed our people too oh and by the way they hate us both because they are we are people of color even though you know people from the middle east come you know they're not black they're actually i'm the darkest color that comes from the middle east you know so it's not the color issue but it's the the the emotional issue and that's how they played it and that's how they are getting them.

19:18The imagery you just put in my head between the Queers for Palestine and what I've got going through Ilhan and Linda and everything else is rather disgusting. So let's just move on for a moment. What do you think it looks like the day after they've accomplished what they want to accomplish? Meaning they have this crazy red-green alliance that everyone understands doesn't make sense. Queers for Palestine is very different than Palestine for queers. They're not for any of these progressive ideals or feminism or anything else. But let's say the Muslim Brotherhood plan comes to fruition, whether it's New York City, it fully comes to fruition or nationwide or whatever.

19:53What do you think happens the next day to their green colleagues? Or their red colleagues, I should say. It is coming to fruition because we are 35 years into the plan and it's working perfectly, exactly the way the Muslim Brotherhood intended it to work. So they are on track and even actually moving beyond their timelines because of the cooperation or the gullibility of the West. They didn't even expect the clever West to be so gullible and to fall into their plan and follow their plan. So that is working already. The end result is transforming America. In their mind, they want the whole world to adhere to Islamic ideology.

20:36And the perfect example is in Lebanon, where I grew up, where I was born and grew up until the age of 20, the radical left in Lebanon, Because remember, Lebanon is a republic exactly like the United States of America. That's what most people don't realize. When you think of the Middle East, you've got the Islamic countries either ruled by a dictator or a one-man regime or a one royal family. You understand, they're tribes with flags. That's what I call them in my book. But they are a dictatorship. People think Israel is the only democratic country in the Middle East. Lebanon is a republic exactly like the United States.

21:11So what the— No, was, was, right? Not is, was. Yeah. Well, actually, it still is in a way because we still have to have a Maronite Christian. The secretary of state has to be a Sunni Muslim. We divided the power so everybody can be equal and everybody can be, you know, we equally, we're tolerant and we're equal and we're diverse and all of that nonsense. That when it's put in the wrong hands, it can destroy a society. So the radical progressive left in Lebanon, when the Islamists started saying, oh, we're going to transform the country. We hate the country. We hate you all. They would say, no, no, no, no, no, they don't mean it.

21:48We need to stand with them. We're a tolerant society. We shouldn't forget that. And they actually fought for their rights to have the rights that they have. And once the Islamists won and they became the majority, they killed the lefties just as much as they killed the rest of us because they looked at them. You're Christian idiots. We're done with you now. We have no use for you. You already served your purpose. So they massacred the lefty Christians as much as they massacred the conservative Christians in Lebanon. In America, the same thing is going to happen. It's like Iran. When the Khomeini came to power in 1979, the first thing he did is kill all the progressives, is kill all the leftists, is kill all the people who said, we want to make sure we have equality in the country.

22:33That's what Carter thought, you know, by getting rid of the Shah and bringing Khomeini, they're going to have equality. Khomeini killed everybody. In America, once the Islamists have their way, they will have no use for the queers, for Palestine, the LGBTQ +, whatever. They have no tolerance for these people because they despise these people. So they are going to turn against the human rights that we believe in, that we respect. I don't care what you do in your bedroom. I don't care what God you pray for. I don't care whether you're religious or atheist. I don't care if you believe in Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, you know, whatever temple you go to, whatever mosque, as long as you are a law-abiding citizen in the United States, you love America as much as I do, as we do.

23:17We in America love all people, but they don't see it that way. And Iran is the perfect example of what happens when Islamists become the majority. Lebanon, Gaza, Syria, Egypt. Remember when in Egypt, the winter spring, the Arab spring, when the Muslim Brotherhood took over. Every place when the Islamists, the radical who adhere to the religion of Islam and the tenets of Islam take over, it spells disaster to any country or any community where they take over. If fatigue, brain fog, constant sickness, or achy joints sound familiar, Strong Cell might be worth a look. Strong Cell supports mental clarity and focus, plus clean natural energy without the jitters or that afternoon crash.

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25:28That will be a huge blow to the radical Islamists in the Middle East, not the Muslim Brotherhood plan. Let's put that aside. When the Iran regime falls, and it will fall. It's not a matter of weeks. It's a matter of days now. So when they fall and the Iranian people rise up, remember, they are burning their own mosque. They burned over, I think, almost 350 mosques. So they are rebelling against Islam itself, not just the regime. When that falls, the fall of the regime of Iran will reverberate throughout the world. In the Middle East, I believe that Iranians will sign a peace treaty with Israel.

26:07The people of Iran will sign a peace treaty with Israel. Hezbollah will be suffocated. The money tunnel that was funneling money to the Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah. Remember, Hezbollah committed terrorist attacks on four continents across the globe, not just Lebanon. They were supporting Islamic Jihad. They were supporting Hamas. All that money flow is going to stop and die. And also it will destroy them psychologically. You know, 50 % of winning the battle is psychological. That will destroy them psychologically. And then I believe Lebanon will come to the peace accord, will join the peace accord.

26:43Syria will join the peace accord, the Abraham Accord. It will transform the Middle East, but not just the Middle East. It will enable us to take our military power and divert and start focusing on protecting Taiwan, other interests in other parts of the world. Because remember, the only reason we have a base in Qatar is basically because of Iran. That's why we have a base in Qatar. Imagine the resources that will be freed after that. That is very different than the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood is a Sunni movement. Iranians are Shia movement. There's not many Iranians in the world.

27:19The Sunnis, Indonesia, the biggest country in the world is a Sunni country. 280 million Muslims all adhere to Sunni Islam. So the Muslim Brotherhood and their plan, the Muslim Brotherhood will always have sympathizers all over the globe. And that's why we need to start going after them globally, designating them as a terrorist organization, like what some Arabic countries did, like Saudi Arabia, like big countries that designated them as a terrorist organization because they don't want them there. They don't want to have anything to do with them. They are banned in those countries. So you kind of alluded to this earlier, but what do you make of what's going on with Qatar?

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27:58because we know they are pumping literally billions of dollars into our colleges here, and then our colleges become bastions of leftism and completely the same stuff that you're arguing the Muslim Brotherhood wants to happen. So Qatar has a piece of that. The country itself is basically a slave state. I mean, they have more, in essence, foreign slaves that are trapped there building all of their infrastructure, while it's just an oil rich, as everyone says. It's kind of just a gas station in the middle of the Middle East. Yet they seem to have huge influence. And people talk about them way more now than maybe three years ago.

28:32What's going on there? Qatar is the new shiny bull. They have no more influence. They have not pumped any more money than Saudi Arabia over the years. I detail in my book in 2006, Because They Hate, my first book, all the money that have poured into American colleges from Harvard to Georgetown to Columbia to Cornell to Duke. I go down the list of all the money that was funneled from Saudi Arabia, setting up Middle East Study Department and political science departments and appointing Arab professors who are anti-Israel, anti-America to teach that Israel is evil. America is the great Satan. And they have done this to the tune of a million.

29:12Al-Harmayn Foundation out of Saudi Arabia have sent more students paid for by the Saudis from the Middle East into America and all our universities through the 90s, 2010 and beyond. Qatar today is only the new shiny ball du jour that the Jewish community is starting to shine the light on. And that's only after the Hamas war. You didn't hear anything about Qatar before October 7th, 2024. So now this is the new shiny ball. Qatar is funneling money into America like Saudi Arabia has been funneling money into America, like Kuwait, like any of these other nations that have money, most notably Saudi Arabia.

29:53So, yes, they are educating about, you know, they are very pro-Islamist. They are very pro-Palestinian and they are brainwashing the students. But this is nothing new. This has been happening for years, and we need to open our eyes and realize that, yes, we can do business deals with the Middle East, any country in the Middle East, but you can never turn your back on any country in the Middle East, with the exception of the state of Israel. If we go into war and we have to rely on people to turn our back to the trenches, Israel is the only country we can trust because Israel is the only nation where we share the same values, the Judeo-Christian values, the same ethics, which were the foundation of Western civilization.

30:40Now, people may not agree with Israel, may not like Israel. Fine, that's perfect. We're just talking about America's interest. If I'm in a trench and I have to depend on one entity, one ally to defend me, I'm not turning my back on any of the Muslim countries, but I can turn my back to Israel. So I sense that overall, despite all the craziness and the amount of influence that the Muslim Brotherhood has created, that you're bullish on the future of America and you trust Trump. I'm curious, what do you think about Western Europe? Let's do it two ways. Western Europe and Canada, because I think Canada has a very specific version of this too.

31:17But to me, Western Europe, I see no way they get out of their problem with radical Islam at this point, demographically and ideologically. I agree with you. And I want to add one more thing. We have Trump now in office. I fear for America as much as I fear for Europe. Don't feel safe in America just because we have Trump. And this is if we win the midterm election. And we're not guaranteed we're going to win the midterm election. And if we lose the midterm election, it doesn't matter what Trump does. Trump is going to be paralyzed. Nothing is going to get done. So one, we need to make sure we win the midterm election.

31:52And two, when Trump is gone, America is walking down the same path as Europe. Unless we elect another Republican strong administration that will follow in Trump's footsteps. We need at least eight years to turn the ship around. The Democrats had Obama for eight years and then Biden for another four. That's a long time to do a lot of damage for the country. We had the reprieve in Trump in 2016. But we have to make sure we have long enough Republican leadership in America. Now, to turn the ship, having said that, Europe is at stage four cancer. Europeans did not heed the warnings of people who are warning about this.

32:32like Mariana Alaci back in 2002. Bless her heart. They vilified her. She's dead now. She's no longer with us. She's an Italian writer. She was writing about it. She was talking about it. Warning Italy, warning Europe. Nobody wanted to listen to her. Batya Or wrote the book Arabia in 2005. Nobody wanted to listen to her either because people sometimes do not want to acknowledge the deaths facing them in the face, especially when it's a death of their immediate family member. So those who lived in Europe, the sons and daughters of Europe, looked at their mother dying, but they could not acknowledge that their mother has been infected with a disease that's killing it like cancer.

33:15They refused to do what is required because they lived in denial. Now mom is dying, Europe, and they're looking at it and now they are grasping for air thinking, what can we do? What can we do? They're electing people who are anti-Islamist. They're trying to pass laws that will limit immigration. They do not know what to do. But the damage is in. The cancer is in and it is growing. Canada is the same way. Canada, there is no free speech in Canada. By the way, most Americans assume that Canada has free speech laws like we do. We take it for granted that, you know, of course, everybody else has free speech like we do.

33:50No, they don't. Neither Europe nor Canada. So they both have the same problems because they both rolled out the carpet for people who do not share their values. We in America had patriotism. Look, September 11th, after we were attacked on September 11th, what saved America was the patriotism. Europe doesn't have patriotism. Canada did not have the patriotism that we had. That is eroding right now. Right now, America is so divided. we are no longer the group that's going to stand Republican and Democrats on the steps of the Capitol like we did on September 11, 2001 and saying God bless America.

34:30That's not going to happen no matter what, because the Democrats hate the Republicans, conservatives, people like you and me who are middle of the road, who think, you know, we need to preserve our country. They hate us. If we agree with one thing Trump does, you could be extreme lefty. In your case, you're gay. married with children the fact that you stand for you know conservative some conservative policies they completely discount you as the enemy that's where we are as a country and that's why we must come together we must organize i encourage people to go to act for america.org right now act for america click on join us start a chapter in your community we have chapters all over the country I'm proud to tell you that in the last five weeks alone, we have started 157 chapters in 36 states across the country.

35:24We have to fight tooth and nail leading up to the next midterm. Failure is not an option in the next midterm. We need to save our country if we do not want to be going down the path of Europe. So I want to jump back to, and we'll link to the website and everything else below. But I want to jump back to New York City for a second because Mamdani does seem to represent so much of what you're warning against. I mean, what would your prediction be for the four years under this guy? It's going to be very tough. He's going to try to change a lot of laws. We already know he already started. But the biggest concern is going to be the Islamization of New York City.

36:03It's going to be the Islamization because look at all the people surrounding him. The Linda Sarsour's. The people didn't really think much of her. And then we started seeing her rise to power working. Remember, she was the co-sponsor, co-leader of the Women's March on Washington, D.C. And so we started seeing her rise through the ranks. And now she is older, more funded, more connected with influence that she can brag about on social media. I mean, immediately as he got elected, even before he was elected, she was bragging about all the money that she raised for him through Islamist groups that put them in office.

36:38And after he got elected, she started talking about now he is accountable to us, the people that put him there. So with his election comes strings attached that they're going to start pulling. My fear for New York is the Islamization of New York. We already see now the prayers of the five times a day prayer on loudspeakers that people can do a darn thing about. and how is he going to be able to handle the defunding the police, the monitoring of terrorists, sharing information and intelligence, or maybe impeding our work in protecting New York City because he's going to consider it anti-Islamic to do certain things.

37:21So that's the danger. So how would you connect all of this to Minnesota? Because I think that clearly one of the things that the progressives want is they want more destruction. Their feeling is the more that they can create the chaos, the more they can get Trump to overreact. They can then say, hey, America doesn't work. Look, we have chaos and we have this authoritarian guy trying to, you know, take away our rights. Like for them, the chaos is the perfect storm. It's basically the genesis of everything. So how connected is all of this to what's going on in Minnesota right now? Well, it's very connected.

37:54In Minnesota, they needed a distraction from the fraud. The over$9 billion stolen from your pocket, my pocket, and our children's pocket to go to fraud to a group of people that Obama imported and plopped in Minnesota that have become such a huge voting bloc. They now have a representative in Congress, not just one representative of Congress, but the lefty elected officials right now are bowing at their feet, trying to protect them. So the left has become the enemy of the state in the United States. They are the enemy within, David. Make no mistake about it. It is time we face the ugly truth. The left is working with the Islamists.

38:40The Islamists choose what's happening in Minnesota. They want chaos because chaos is the driver for change. In chaos, evil thrives. In chaos, they can get away with fraud. In chaos, they can get away with restructuring and organizing and recruiting more people who are against people like you and me who want to preserve America. And so this is why they love the chaos in America. And that's exactly why you see the leftist groups and the Islamist groups are coming together to stand. We do not want the deportation of people of color, which is the rattling cry that they're bringing them now together because they turned it into a racist card right now.

39:18They're playing the racist card. You want to deport people because they are people of color because you are racist bigots. That's how they are playing it, which has nothing to do with reality. The left would much rather protect murderers, rapists, and pedophiles instead of protecting your mother, your father, and your children. This is where we are in this country. So they are connected. They are working together. And their number one goal, for example, in Minnesota, they needed a reason to distract from the fraud. They found their reason and they're going to continue this all the way up to the midterm election.

39:53They need something that will unify the Democratic Party to rally under an umbrella, to come together as one force against Republicans to make sure they stop Trump at all costs. They have fire in their belly. They have a desire for change while our people are sitting on the sidelines, praying that we're going to have change, hoping for change, praying that everything is going to work out, and getting themselves into thinking, well, I hope everything works out well. I'm going to go out and vote. And hope that every single conservative will come out and vote this next election. Do you owe back taxes or haven't even filed in years?

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41:44Tim Walls literally announced he's not running for re-election. And then all of this breaks out just by coincidence in the same city. I mean, it's like, it's like, come on. Do you think there's any, do you think there's any chance for the Democrat party at this point to push back? Is there anyone left there? We always joke about Fetterman here. Like he's the last sane guy in the party. Is there any chance that the Democrat Party can stem any of this, or is this, it's just gone already? The Democrats care only about one thing, and that's power. Getting power or retaining power. They need to get rid of Trump because Trump is reversing every single thing they came up with.

42:28They want DEI. They want a wussified military. They want all the leftist policy that they rally for. And we do not want that. And so their number one goal is it doesn't matter how much we destroy America. This is how the left is thinking. It doesn't matter how much they destroy America as long as they win the midterm. And the Democrats know they have nothing to run on compared to Trump's accomplishments in the first year. I mean, look at the stock market. Look at the economy. Look at the wars that have stopped around the world. Look at America's strengths. Look at what we're building. What are the Democrats going to run on?

43:05The Democrats have to bond together to retain or maintain power. And if they don't do that, they're done. So they have to rally behind what's happening in Minnesota to save their own seats. Unfortunately, as sad of an answer as this is, that's the reality we are facing. What have you found to be the best techniques to wake people up? Because I still think to get us to the first question, you know, when you were out there, and again, we'll show some of the B-roll, and you're waving this document, and people are going, all right, all right, whatever, it's just something, it's happening, it's not, like, everyone's just distracted in their own lives.

43:45What have you found to be the best techniques to get people out of the slumber that they're in? Because that's what we need to win this thing. I mean, that's really the only chance. the best way to get out of the slumber is to become active. And here's what I mean by that. They need to understand the difference between entertainment and activism. What we are doing right now is entertainment. I ask people all the time, Dave, are you engaged? Are you active? Oh, yes, Brigitte, I am active. I'm engaged. I attend CPAC every year. I'm a member of the local Republican club. We go have great speakers every month.

44:25Everybody eats the rubber chicken. They dress, look so good. They're not working at the end of the meeting. Everybody pats themselves on the back. Oh, my gosh, we had a great meeting. You know, who's the next speaker we're going to bring next month? You know, that's their idea of engagement. They go to Turning Point USA, lights, turning balls, fireworks. Oh, my gosh, this is so exciting. You know, I got my picture taken with Don Jr. I got my picture taken with Janine Piro. I got my picture taken with so-and-so. and they are on a high. They meet great friends. They go home seven days later. They cannot remember a thing about the conference.

45:01They cannot even tell you what they can do to make a difference. But by golly, they had a great time. On the left, the left doesn't have conferences. Name me one conference on the left. They don't have a CPAC. They don't have a turning point. They don't blow money on conferences, on entertainment. They take the money and they say, we're going to go into a community. We're going to have a community, a neighborhood director. We're going to pay him or her$2 ,500 a month enough to basically be accountable, spending money, fun money. But it's not enough as a full-time job. And their job is to organize their neighborhood.

45:37Beat the neighbors, talk to the neighbors, get the neighbors active. You stop any 22-year-old nitwit on the street and tell them, why are you a socialist? They cannot even tell you what socialism is. But by golly, they are engaged. So you have to understand that watching Fox News, watching Newsmax, watching America's Voice, tuning in to talk radio, watching podcasts, that's all wonderful and educational. But that's entertainment. Education by itself is not sufficient. Education must be coupled with action. So how do you turn the ship around? Go to actforamerica.org. I named the organization Act for America.

46:15Not think about America, not hope for America, not wish for America, not pray for America, but act for America. We can think and hope and pray all the time. And that's fine, and we all do. But without action, nothing happens. Join us. Click on join us. Start a chapter in your community. Volunteer. If you are unable to start a chapter or to volunteer, stand with us financially. Support us. We have our campaign, 26 for 2020-26. for$26 a month. Stand with us as a Patriot partner. We will email you the Muslim Brotherhood Project for North America. We'll put it in your hand. You can read it in Arabic and in English.

46:55Share it with your friends. And that's how we make a difference taking back our country. Does this lady know how to be a guest or what? Well, you know, Brigitte, you did not bring a tear to my eye this time, but you opened like a champ. You closed like a champ. Everything in the middle, all-star level. You're just the best. You're human caffeine with a smile. I love you. I really do. We should do this more often. We have a great time together. Anytime, anytime. Let's do it every couple of months. You are always welcome back. We will link to Act of America below. And putting aside the Muslim Brotherhood for a second, I wish you luck in Virginia.

47:28It's going to be tough for you guys, but you are always allowed to come down here to Florida. Not everybody else. You and your husband, you guys are allowed down here. Thank you. We'd love to see you. All the grandkids. We'd love to see you and David again. Okay, take care. Take care. Thank you.

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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Brigitte Gabriel about her journey from war-torn Lebanon to the United States; why muslim mayors like Zohran Mamdani owe major favors to radical Islamic special interest groups that helped get them elected; the Muslim Brotherhood's plan for influencing American policy by infiltrating both political parties; lessons from Lebanon and Iran as cautionary tales; how foreign funding from muslim countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia are re-shaping U.S. higher education and brainwashing students; what will happen after the fall of the Iranian regime; why civic engagement and political action are critical to protecting Western freedoms, and much more.

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