The Exact Moment Host Realizes Lindsay Clancy Supporters Are Insane

27:43Literally, Dave, one is pouring hot wax on her child. They're throwing ice at babies that are crying. They're like shaking their kids. It is so dark and so disturbing. And when I said, you know, this would have been cut and dry for me, I mean, I would have written Lindsay Clancy off as being demonic. That's what I mean. I think unequivocally there should be a punishment. This is a crime and I'm sorry and it's a tragedy, but I'm saying I would have had no empathy for her. So when I listen to my friends like Sage or Chloe or the women in my office, but women taking to the internet and abusing their children on camera, I think each one, Dr.

28:31Phil said this to me, I'm going to echo it, I think each one needs to be investigated. Totally agree. If you are, quote, same Lindsay, turn your ass into the police now. If you make a video saying same Lindsay, same conversation. Go check yourself into a hospital, dude, if you really think you're same Lindsay. Period. It's very weird. You can have an incredible amount of empathy for her. You can. That was the point that we started with here. You can have – well, you can – no, no. I'm trying. I'm trying. Because of people like Sage, because that like, I'm trying to understand. No, she did something that literally like rips the fabric of reality in half, a mother killing a child.

29:13It's impossible to understand or wrap your head around. But you can have empathy for someone going through something horrible. But this is sort of like when, you know, when there's a school shooter and, you know, it's like, well, OK, do they have mental problems? Obviously. But you don't say, OK, so we don't punish them. No sane person. I remember specifically that Uvalde, Texas one a couple of years ago where somebody killed, I think it was 18 elementary school kids and a few teachers. And it's like, obviously that person had horrific mental health issues, but you can't say, well, all right, so you don't go to jail.

29:46By the way, every single person who murders someone else, like first degree murder, premeditated murder, probably has something off upstairs, probably has some sort of mental issue. And so we're not going to punish them because of the circumstances. Number one, Jillian, absolutely. Anyone that you see posting any video, investigate them. Like, it's crazy that they think that this is a. Is that the point we've gotten to where people are so desperate for likes? Go after them. The Trump administration, like whatever it is, go after them. Report them to your local authorities because nobody wants this in their community.

30:23And secondly, women want equality in every way except when it's not convenient for them. Which one is it, ladies? Which one is it? Do we want equality in every single way, whether it's voting, whether it's athletically, fine you know as far as your salaries as as you climb the corporate ladder you want to be equal but not here yeah no go well that's why i'm saying you think men are going to suddenly ever vote for a woman to be president if they let her skate like oh well women are hormonal and occasionally they might kill people and might also have the nuclear codes you'd be you'd have to be crazy right all right do you anyone want a final word on that yeah say is that i think there is an element of this that allows people to be one step removed.

31:14Nancy, this is so awful. I actually don't know if you could put it in. I couldn't watch it. My wife told me about it. I tried to listen to parts of it, but Nancy Grace describes what had to have happened when she strangled each one of these children for four minutes. And Dave, I can't get through it, but I think that if you even listen to a minute of it. I just don't, this is where like the only way I'm not unleashing saying this woman is possessed by demons, which I don't even believe in. I don't believe in any of this shit. But it's so dark and so evil to be able to do this. I think we have the luxury of like, our kids are dead.

31:59It's violent. I think everybody should watch that. I saw that. I think everybody should watch. It's the only way. And are we more concerned about this woman versus three innocent babies? It's a horror show, Dave. It is a freaking horror show. That's all I'm going to say is like you can't. I don't think you'll get past a minute of it. But I don't know how you listen to that. And then like same Lindsay. Like, dude. We're not. We won't post that here. Well, but there's information clearly. We will post that here, but obviously, obviously people can find it. And the last thing I would say on it is, you know, in some sense, I guess we shouldn't be surprised by this because a certain political aisle has so fetishized abortion, which is killing children, whether you like it or not.

32:53And you can have all your debates on where life starts and when it should, if ever, be legal and rape and all that other stuff. but I'm going to guess that probably 99 % of the people who are supporting her right now are total pro-abortion advocates. And that's a very difficult reality that we're also going to have to confront. But all right, ladies, that's why I love talking to you guys because we can do a little bit of everything. Let's put that down for a moment and get to something that'll be a little easier because it's a little more wheelhouse for what we normally do. This is a paid advertisement from Rumble Wallet.

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34:03Again, that's Rubin10 to claim your$10 in U.S. stablecoin. A little craziness out of New York City. And this story out of the New York Post, I mean, this really is nuts and strikes me as profoundly illegal, although it's New York, so nothing will happen. Mayor Zorhan Mamdami assembled an army of nearly 200 influencers, giving the social media stars VIP access to push the lefty administration's talking points, a new bombshell report revealed. The web of online personalities are being fed talking points by City Hall through an encrypted signal group text, potentially running afoul of local record-keeping laws, according to the study by the Columbia Journalism Review.

34:40Some influencers are even pocketing taxpayer funds for work on particular messaging campaigns, though not for their coverage, the report states. The secret signal chat named New York City creators' announcements combined with murky money left many watchdogs aghast. City leaders must be deliberate about how they communicate, said Citizens Union Executive Director Grace Rau. While there's nothing inherently wrong with working with influencers, Rau said, the problem is that the city has been doing this privately. We don't know who is getting paid and who isn't, and the public has no way to tell a paid supporter from an organic voice.

35:14There needs to be disclosure and we need clear rules of the road. The group is run by the director of new media and cultural communications at the New York City office of the mayor, Amelia Rowland, and her staff, the steady states. Rowland pulls in$175 ,000 a year, while her supervisor, city communications director, Anna Barr, is paid$260 ,000. I mean, look, broadly, I would say there's no corruption that would surprise me with anything related to New York City or Mamdami or anything else. Obviously, influencers are paid. That doesn't surprise everybody. The idea that they have a secret signal group chat and that taxpayer dollars.

35:52It's one thing if a nonprofit or some private citizen is paying an influencer to say something, and you can criticize that as such. But that taxpayer dollars would be spent so that the mayor can get messaging out seems highly illegal to me. My guess is nothing will come of this. But, Sage, New York, it is what it is. New York knows how to just continue to put their foot in their mouth in every single way, although they're trying to keep it secret, not letting us know via signal. At the end of the day, the only thing I have a problem with is the taxpayer dollars, because it happens, influencers getting paid, etc.

36:36That's part of the world in which we all work and live today. And of course they're going to have talking points. Of course they're going to. I mean, it happens every day in the campaign trail for candidates that we support and respect as it does on the left. But if you're using my money to do that, I have a problem. Here's the thing. Why are we surprised? This is actually one of the things much lower on my totem pole for New York City. But this guy continues to do pretty much exactly what he says he was going to do. And the people of New York, I hate to say it, reap what you sow. this is what you get for bringing in a man who has made it so clear before, during, and after his election of what his plan is and why.

37:19Socialism. Like, that's the only part that I have an issue with. Even if I disagree with their talking points, they have a right to have those opinions and share those points on a secret signal chat. That's fine. Yeah. I mean, I'm with you on that. Look, they can say whatever they want to say as influencers. They can take money to say those things if they wish. I suppose it's on them to disclose that to their audience if they actually care about their audience, but none of that is illegal. The issue about taxpayer dollars for partisan government messaging, that, Jillian, I suspect you have a problem with.

37:50I covered it months ago. He brought the woman that ran his campaign. Yep, I covered it in an expose that we did on the DSA. And we were like, how is this not being investigated? How is this legal? Like, normally you run a campaign, you've got contributions. The campaign ends. He's brought the woman who ran his campaign, given her a government job and is using taxpayer dollars to continue the campaign, which, of course, is wildly unfair to the person that's going to end up running against him for all the obvious reasons. I don't even understand how this is legal. I don't get it. It's arguably not, but no one's doing anything about it.

38:32Right. It doesn't sound like it's legal, but that's the question. Does anyone ever pay the price for anything? And, you know, it's something we talk about all the time. Well, look at California. I mean, this is no different from any other kind of fraud. If it's being done at that level from the mayor's office down, how is that different from Gavin Newsom's California in so many ways, which is why they're doing that? What's the act? The Nick? Oh, the Nick Shirley Act. The Nick Shirley Act, because we don't want to discover this fraud and we're going to make him go away. Like there's no difference.

39:02And so why would they stop, honestly, when they see that there's never any accountability unless some 22-year-old curious journalist with an iPhone is going to take a chance and go blow them up? This isn't going to stop anytime soon, especially. Like, who's going to investigate that in New York City? No, nobody is. And just as a sidebar, because we're a week away from the 25th anniversary, I mean, the idea that 25 years after 9-11, and I lived in New York City during 9-11, My dad saw the second plane hit the tower from his office. I was trapped in the city. I had several friends that had to stay with me because they couldn't get back to the suburbs.

39:38All of the stuff, months of chaos and everything else. Zorhan Mamdami is the mayor of New York City 25 years later is beyond fiction. And yet it's reality. So that is what New York City has at the moment. But Jillian, I want to play a clip of you. Although it's not, well, it's you. Well, you're sort of a side character in this one. You're getting, because you went on Piers Morgan's show. And, you know, my feeling about Piers is that he would sell his mother to a jihadist for a click. But whatever, the show is what it is. It doesn't even matter. The show is what it is. I don't really care for much of the screaming and all the crazy nonsense, except Cenk Uygur, who I know none of us are fans of, who used to be my boss, who I think is genuinely one of the worst people in this space.

40:29You were on a panel with him, and his chair committed jihad against him, and I just felt we had to show this clip. 18 Americans are dead because of your beloved Israel. That's why I'm vitriolic. I don't like people saying, I hate America and I deserve 9-11. Nobody thinks that. We deserve 9-11. Yeah, your nephew said that on his street. We love America. We love America so much, we want to represent America instead of Israel. Howard's being blown up behind him because he loves America. That's what he did. Let me stop you there. Let's be honest. Let me play a little mashup of your nephew, Chank Hassan Piker, and the controversial things he said about us.

41:04Here we go. Here we go back to us. I'm sorry. Well, I'm sorry. Are we ever going to talk about Mike Rogers? Hang on. What the f*** is this? I'm sorry. Oh, here we go again. You're going to expose me for being a liar. We don't. He never said he hates America. We love America. Of course, there is. Well, how about this, ladies? God damn it. I hate America so much. We are the bad guys. We are the bad guys. Why do I hate America? Because I recognize accurate history. Oh, God, I hate America so much. God, I hate America so much. Sometimes it's like so stupid, dude. God, I hate America so much. Bro, I hate this country, dude.

41:42I hate America so much, dude. Guys, you know, I don't love being in all these little inter fights center fights and influencer wars and everything else. I used to know the guy, Sage. I think I've told you before, I used to play ball with him every Sunday, major ball hog, which is all you need to know about somebody to know everything else about them. But he really is the center of energy now. I mean, Zorhan is like right there too, obviously, but in terms of online internet presence, Hasan Piker is now the most important figure on the left. And I think they've created a very toxic stew with this guy.

42:19And it could, I think it could take down the whole country. I honestly do. You mean the influence that has on Piker? Well, that he's ginned up all of these young people with these horrible ideas. No Democrats want to push back. The few that do get kicked out of the party, say John Fetterman. And the socialist move is here. And he does a brilliant job of it. He's really good at it. I didn't go deep on him until Jillian Michaels, until you brought his name up several times on actual friends. I think there's certain people that don't come up in my algorithms for obvious reasons. And then when I did it, it made me, right, it made me shake.

42:57I'm like, this is real. Here is, to your point, Dave, it is effective. I mean, look at the rise in the DSA memberships that have just continued to absolutely skyrocket just in the last couple of years, even though after research that it had existed for decades. But all of a sudden, recently, why is that? It's because of people like that. And the scariest part is that who do we have right now in that demographic to combat him? Because we don't have Charlie. Charlie Kirk is gone. Charlie Kirk was that person who could counteract that with actual facts in a kind, sensible way where he allowed other voices to come in, which was the college campus tours.

43:38And I think that this is actually a problem that is being overlooked on the Republican side, conservative, call it what you want, anything opposite of the Hassan Piker side, that there is no one. Democrats have always been so much better, I think, with messaging and with reaching the youth. Obama in 2008, starting there with hope and change and all the pretty colors in Facebook. Like he went to social media before it was what it is today. And it was so effective. And Democrats have always done that. And they've got a guy now who's always been out there. But think about the timing now where he is more part of our everyday conversations because Charlie is gone.

44:16And they know that they, who do we have right now, guys, to go toe to toe with him that has the kind of platform and the reach that Charlie had. The reach that Charlie had. Who do we have? We have amazing young people. We do, but I'm saying with that platform. I know. Nope, nope. You're right. And it's going to take some time for them to get there. But we don't have time. And look at the midterms that are here in a few weeks. Like, that's the problem. We don't have time. And when we did over the last nine months or years since Charlie died, we did nothing about it. There were other things that we were worrying about.

44:54Not that you should say, OK, who did we replace Charlie? Because Charlie is irreplaceable. I'm just saying, like, there's nobody. Go ahead. Well, so, Jillian, I mean, what do you make of the fact that someone who can be on camera constantly talking about how much he hates America, constantly talking about how he understands why 9-11 happened to America, who's electrocuted his dog on air. Who's talked about that you don't need to suicide bomb anymore. You should just find a Chinese drone and you can kill people that way. I mean, he wants blood in the streets. Like he's done all of these things, and I'm sure much worse, that all of the Democrats are showing up at his house to do the show with him where they take his purity tests.

45:30Al-Said is campaigning with him. and their answer is crawling out the back door right now just keep trying after, I don't know he's like I don't want to talk about a streamer from California it's like you mean your best friend the guy you reached out to and begged for help oh yeah, Al Saeed's trying to be like I don't know what you're talking about look over here at J.D. Vance, he's a racist oh yeah, oh he's trying to do a full blown 180, 100 % so does this seem like Like, to me, it seems like the obvious end of where the Democrat Party will be. And I shouldn't say end. It's like nine out of 10 steps to the end because God knows what the true like evil ending of this whole thing will look like.

46:11But like the idea that you can now run alongside people who openly hate America, who want to every single Democrat at this point, pack the courts, you know, just basically destroy the system as it exists. So none of this should surprise us. Like, this is the end, right? Well, OK. there's a lot there. Off the top, I want to draw a parallel. Hassan Piker, totally insane, celebrates Charlie's assassination, threatens Jews if they support Israel, they'll get hurt. Everything you just said. Radical, lunatic, psychotic. Follow me for a second here. Lindsay Clancy. Okay, clinically insane. Murders for kids.

46:52Both of these people have existed throughout history, but typically they have been marginalized. What we're seeing now is they're being canonized. And that's where it's not Hassan. It's not Lindsay. It's the same Lindseys. It's all of the people that follow and subscribe to his stream. And that's where we need to go. Well, the women are not all right. Well, the men are not all right. Well, the kids are not all right. Okay, what's happening as a culture where everyone is this mentally ill, this unstable, this angry, this, like, fringe with regard to their thinking? And I think that you're absolutely right, Sage.

47:36Republicans need to find a more empathetic way to come at this because the bootstrap conversation is not working. It's very Gen X. It really is. Ah, shut up. Put your boots down. Go to work. Shut up. Shut up. Like, oh, we have a whiny little brat entitled. That shit is not working. And I think we need to say, listen, the obstacles are real, but the ceiling is not. Let's see here. Everyone is struggling with this. Older age millennials can't afford homes. Gen Xers lost their house in the 2008 crash. Like baby boomers are barely making ends meet off their social security checks. You're not alone in this.

48:17There is something broken here. How can we change it? But we got to give better solutions than socialism and burn down the country or pull yourself up by your bootstraps because that shit's not working. Clearly. I just don't know. I don't know how to do that and do that quickly, especially because every single time we do say something sensible. Yeah, but Trump. And that's where it ends. That's where they've done a great job of that. for sure. I think we are. And I think that these kids are going to have to end up experiencing socialism. I think they're going to have to see rent in New York go through the roof like it did in the 70s because of the freezes.

48:59They're going to have to see crime go through the roof where they're terrified to take the trains. We've all said this before. You only leave the left when it comes for you. Well, they're going to vote all these people into power and it's going to come for them. Right. A conservative is a liberal by reality. And when they wake up, we need to be ready with some common sense and a better plan. You know, guys, when I was off the grid, I mostly tried to just purge a lot of the nonsense that we deal with over the year and everything else. But I do try to think of some of the topics and how I can kind of hit them from a new way.

49:31And one thing that I was constantly thinking about, and I think this is sort of exactly what you're talking about, Jillian, is like there's like an architecture of the internet problem, meaning that there's like, there's relatively sane thought. It could be a little bit left. It could be a little bit right, but you could say there's sort of mainstream, relatively okay, over it in window thought. And then there's just crazy stuff everywhere. But the way the internet works is crazy stuff are all crazy people and crazy ideas are all on the same playing field as everything that's somewhat relatively normal.

50:00Right. And what happens is the crazier thing you say, you keep getting normal people to defend against it, but that brings attention to it. So every time you say something crazy, you actually are unwitting. You are causing good people to unwittingly expand the Overton window. And then you just end up with crazy everywhere. I have no idea how we defend against that. Sage, you're the expert on architecture of the internet, right? Yeah, Sage, you got this right. No, it overwhelms me. It scares me. And I have these conversations with my 24, 22 and 20 year old kids because they are the ones that are targeted by the Hassan Pikers of the world.

50:46And they now no longer after they once did get all of their news from TikTok, because that's just that's just what happens. And that's why they've actually been so effective. There is a part of me that goes, you know, I saw a map recently or something on X about, OK, if you had to choose one part of the country to live in for the rest of your lives, where are you choosing? And I guess it was maybe four or five different areas. And literally, I put it in front of the kids and every single one of us chose the south. Like I'm in Tennessee, Tennessee, all down through Texas and everywhere east and south to Florida.

51:22Like part of me thinks that we're all there's going to be that divide that comes up and every in this in the succession that is going to happen. And people are like, oh, yeah, you guys in Tennessee and Florida and Texas. I get it now. I'm out because what's happening in New York is crazy. And we're like, yeah, I told you so. Dave, aren't you the one that brought up a moving tax? If you want to come here with your crazy policy, an entry tax, like because part of me thinks that this is if they win the midterms. And then who knows what happens in 2028? I mean, the Iran thing is lingering and causing more issues than probably anybody in D.C.

52:00ever imagined at this point. And it's going to cost us in one way or another. And so what happens in 2026 and 2028? And that's why I feel like I know I'm in the right place. And if it happens, there's a part of me that would be like, fine, fine. Just put borders up everywhere and I'll stay down here because if it continues like this, I'm not willing to go sit next to them. I quite literally on Rubin Report yesterday, somebody during a Q &A asked me about secession. And I get asked this question a lot. And my feeling is that if the Democrats win the midterms, because then Trump's done, it's just over, it's impeachment, all hell's going to break loose.

52:38The secession movement and the real state rights movement is going to explode. and I'll probably be for it. I don't even want to talk that into existence. I know. Abraham Lincoln, it's not just that he freed the slaves. He saved the union and that worked, you know, for a long, long time, but maybe it doesn't work anymore. But let's not end on that type of depression. I have a different type of depression, sort of connecting everything, because you mentioned Charlie Kirk and obviously September 10th will be the one year anniversary of Charlie's death. We all know that September 11th, it's the 25th anniversary of those horrific attacks.

53:15And John Fetterman, one of the few sane Democrats who will not be a Democrat much longer, he has now offered Abdul El-Sayed and Zorhan Mandami$50 ,000 to hold a rally on 9-11 with Hassan Piker to explain why they think America deserved 9-11. Take a look. I'm encouraging El-Sayed, you know, remind everybody in Michigan who you are and the kind of people that you stand with and i'm offering fifty thousand dollars for you to do a rally with the sun piker on 9 11 the anniversary and you could all explain to people why america would deserve that 25 years ago or or do a rally that's another fifty thousand dollars if you do a rally with your sister you know that she celebrates publicly uh after the massacre of 10-7 for that too.

54:05These are the people that he aligns with. That's the kinds of folks that helped him win the primary now. Jillian, I mean, Fetterman's trying. He's really trying to hold the line and keep them from the crazy. I don't think it'll work, but God bless him. They're fighting this with everything they've got. You pulled a clip from the peer show that I did yesterday. And it's like, oh, we're unfairly smearing El Syed with this whole like radical Islamist thing and I was like are we though he's for Sharia law absolutely yeah like his sister took to the internet to give October 7th blessings the Muslim Brotherhood featured him on their web page his father-in-law holds leadership roles in two organizations that are unindicted co-conspirators of the Holy Land terror financing trial he's best friends with Hassan Piker, who says we deserve 9-11.

55:02Like, are we unfairly smearing him with this? He did make an equivocation to, oh, well, but all the dead people in all the Arab countries that I come from, you know, America did this. So you decide. Like, is it unfair or not? If it bothers you, this is what he did. You decide. But it's fascinating, right? Because then they're like, oh, bigot. I'm like, all right, bigot, here we go. I'll add bigot to my list. Yeah. Well, we're all on that list. But it's also, I mean, look, you know, he's also Egyptian and has never once called for Egypt to open the door. Egypt could open the door to the Gazans right now, let two million people in, and it would all be over.

55:39But, of course, he's not interested in that. Sage, I will give you final word on all of this. Honestly, I just think that we need to look deeply, like, within ourselves. I'm not trying to be dramatic. Because I'm never dramatic. Me neither. Like, I really think we need to say, what can we do? We're doing it. Your show every day, Dave. Your show every day, Jillian. What you're doing. What you're – I don't know anybody who researches more than you, Jill, and you're reading. And, like, it's incredible. No, but it does. She's like, that's an awful waste of time, by the way, Jillian. You know, it's nice that you're doing it.

56:19But I just think – I think that if we go down – we've got to go down fighting. and knowing that we did everything in our power on our own separate platforms, on our shows that we do mutually, and just the way that we talk and communicate to get the message out. And then no matter what happens in November on November 3rd, we're going to say, okay, we tried to now we have some personal decisions to make. And by the way, I'm trying to be glass half full. I'm not resigning myself to the fact of anything, including the midterms. But we also have to look at the facts, historical facts. with midterms and just the reality of where we are right now.

56:58And so get it all out there, use our resources, be thoughtful with it, and then have a plan, a plan of what do we do next as leaders and as parents and friends? Because this is not, either way, even if we win the midterms, like this isn't all going to get fixed and be rainbows and butterflies and sunshine the next day. Like there's a lot of stuff with what I'm going to do with it. And that's what I need to ask myself. Like, how can I be better? I will say the only time I really, really strongly, strongly give my opinions is with you guys. I feel comfortable doing it. I love listening because we come from different places and different opinions and you change my mind on a lot of things.

57:39I'm like, oh, I didn't think of it that way. I know I need to do more of it because I don't know that I'm doing enough just to offer a different version of thought to people who look like me, who are closet conservatives with brown skin, because it's still like you're going to get canceled if you think this. Like, put it all out there and see what happens. And we'll know that we did our best. I don't know. Sage, you just basically gave us the end of Lord of the Rings. You fight and fight and fight, but it's the friends you make along the way. So we've got each other despite the revolution. Ladies, I love you.

58:14Sage, we'll continue this on actual friends this week. Jillian, you have other things to attend to. We'll try not to abuse. We'll try not to abuse Drew too much without you. I thank you ladies. Happy Labor Day weekend, everybody. And we'll see you on Tuesday.