The Real Reason Jasmine Crockett Doesn't Stand a Chance | Chip Roy

30 Dec 2025 · 23 min · 11 chapters

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In short

Texas politics and Chip Roy’s claims about threats to liberty, affordability, housing supply, border enforcement, and “Islamification” tied to immigration and alleged extremist networks. He argues Democrats could win if Texas doesn’t address affordability (healthcare and housing) and border-related pressures; he also attacks Jasmine Crockett as unable to mobilize Texas voters for Senate.

Guests

Chip Roy, U.S. Congressman from Texas; no other guests named.

Key claims

Roy says Jasmine Crockett is mainly building a brand; Republicans will “beat Democrats” in upcoming Texas races. He frames healthcare as a freedom right to choose doctors and use cash/HSAs, not government “right to health care.” He blames housing shortages on foreigners and corporations owning single-family homes and proposes opening federal lands. He claims Muslim Brotherhood/CARE ties and visa-driven immigration create assimilation problems; he supports pausing immigration and removing people who don’t assimilate.

Notable examples

Lake and Riley Act; filibuster; H-1B/chain migration/diversity visas; Afghanistan SIVs; Plyler v. Doe; birthright citizenship; Muslim Brotherhood/CARE legislation; Holy Land Foundation; Southern Poverty Law Center/Antifa hearing; Trump actions against cartels/antifa.

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Chip Roy on Current Political Landscape

0:46 to 3:08

Chip Roy discusses the political climate in Texas and the upcoming elections.

“How you feeling about these last few days as you guys tie everything together?”

The Importance of Liberty in Governance

3:08 to 4:37

Chip Roy explores the balance between government action and individual liberty.

“I have a right to be able to use cash to do that at the same tax advantage as anybody else.”

Healthcare Rights and Government Intervention

4:37 to 6:26

An in-depth discussion on healthcare rights and the role of government.

“Why do we let massive corporations come up and buy housing supply and do that for profiteering?”

Addressing Housing Issues in America

6:26 to 8:02

Chip Roy addresses the challenges of housing and foreign ownership in America.

“Well, I mean, I've said before and quipped that the only Crockett we should be caring about in Texas is Davy Crockett.”

Islamification Concerns in Texas

8:02 to 10:22

A discussion on the perceived Islamification of Texas and its implications.

“that there are just all of these cities, Sharia law.”

The Role of Attorney General and Immigration Policy

10:22 to 12:26

Chip Roy outlines his vision as a potential attorney general and his views on immigration.

“I understand the state, but I've obviously been up here in the fight.”

Voting Demographics and Political Shifts in Texas

12:26 to 14:01

An analysis of voting demographics and shifts in political affiliations in Texas.

“Well, look, we've got a lot of good people that we've been bringing into the fold and folks that are now kind of moving up.”

Texas Political Landscape and Party Shifts

14:01 to 16:42

Explore the shifting dynamics of party affiliations in Texas and the impact of the Hispanic vote.

“We've got young Hispanics who are sick and tired of the open borders and the dangers and the cartels that are with us.”

Republican Strategies for Midterms

16:42 to 18:36

Discussion on Republican strategies to secure victories in the upcoming midterms and the importance of aggressive action.

“I hope Governor DeSantis is successful in leading on that effort this cycle.”

The Evolving Battle Landscape

18:36 to 19:59

An analysis of the changing political landscape and the need for a more aggressive approach against radical left movements.

“What has changed for you in your years from when you walked into Congress to now?”
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Foreign Relations and Domestic Security

19:59 to 22:40

Examination of the influence of foreign interests on domestic security and the need for a strong stance on terrorism.

“I think that's what's changed, that landscape.”
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Transcript

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0:00Well, I mean, I've said before and quipped that the only Crockett we should be caring about in Texas is Davey Crockett. And I mean, look, Jasmine Crockett is not going to be able to mobilize the people of Texas to back her for United States Senate. That's just not a thing. She's trying to grab a star and try to build up her brand and her ID. We'll have a serious race, obviously, in the Senate, in the primary, in the attorney general's race. I'm running for attorney general. And we'll go through that this spring and then we'll get busy. We'll go beat Democrats and we'll be fine. But people should be alert in Texas that if we don't deal with the issues that are plaguing us, Democrats will take power.

0:45All right, Texas Congressman Chip Roy, what do you say on this chilly D.C. day before you get out of town? I don't know. It's just the season, right? That's it. It's good to be here. Good to be with you. And I'm glad to have you in D.C. How you feeling about these last few days as you guys tie everything together? Are you going to get some things done? Are you going to punt them to the new year? I'm getting all kinds of answers. I'm about 10 interviews in. Yeah, look, we'll pass a few things this week. But at the end of the day, we've got to have a plan when we come back in January, in my opinion.

1:14It's the message I'm sharing with the White House, the message I'm sharing with leadership that did a lot of good things, the big, beautiful bill. I think we held our own in pushing back on the Dems on their shutdown strategy, which is entirely political. We've done some other good things, the Lake and Riley Act and stuff. But we need to come back and deal with the issues the American people care about, which, by the way, affordability is a real thing. Health care costs, a real thing. Housing costs, a real thing. And we need to address it for the people in addition to all the good stuff on the border.

1:41But we just got to keep doing what we're doing on the border and lean into the affordability issue. And if so, we'll have a good year. But we got to lead. What do you make of the state of liberty in America right now? You're always on the more libertarian-minded side of things. I definitely find myself there for the most part. There seems to be a cry from younger people, even on the right, that government should be doing more. And I can tell even when just looking at your Twitter, you have a sort of internal struggle with that. Like, how do you decide, how do you respect liberty, also do kind of things that people want to be done?

2:16Yeah, I mean, look, I'm always going to decide on liberty because the temporary gain of some policy choice that's going to constrain liberty will end up killing us in the end. But you do have to kind of figure out how to navigate this environment where you're trying to undo the damage of decades of tyrannical growth of government, whether it's in D.C. or in the States. And so that takes some action to be able to undo that quickly. So take, for example, the filibuster. You kind of debate those issues or other things to try to see what we can do to solve the problem. But let me give an example of freedom.

2:48So you always hear people talk about the right to health care. That's usually a leftist, a Marxist, who wants to say that your right to health care is to take people's money and to force a doctor to provide care in whatever way that they decide in their infinite wisdom. I say that the right to health care is I have a right to go to the doctor of my choice. I have a right to be able to use cash to do that at the same tax advantage as anybody else. I have the right to save money for that. I have the right to go to direct primary care. I have the right to go to health sharing ministries. I have the right to be able to start an insurance company and sell that product to somebody based on a risk assessment for health insurance.

3:25I'm being denied those rights by government. I think we need to talk in those terms rather than getting wrapped around the axle on what government's doing for you on health care. Let's talk about the right to health care. That right to health care is something that you have in this country through freedom. And I think we can win that argument if we'll actually take it on. But Republicans are always scared of their shadow and they listen to the lobbyists and who are they, you know, go out and fight for the people. The president's instincts were right on this when he said, stop giving money to insurance companies and give subsidies to people i don't like subsidies i don't have no subsidies right but if you're choosing figure out how to empower people not insurance companies right everything being equal if you were in charge you would just basically lower taxes for everybody so none of this would be in play right but what you're saying within the system as it is giving it back to the people if you got to do something yeah i mean within the system we have for example i would have massively expanded health savings accounts and all dollars would flow through those whether they're from your employer yourself in the health care space in an obviously much lower overall tax burden in the first place.

4:22But in the current environment, we have a highly regulated insurance run government regulated health system that isn't providing care for people. And it's consuming people's pocketbooks and freedom. And I think we got to deal with housing is another one. Why do we let foreigners own the American housing supply? Why do we let massive corporations come up and buy housing supply and do that for profiteering? I think if you're a, you know, American citizens should own single family residence. Yeah. Right. And there are other things we can do. And by the way if you're enforcing the border then you're gonna uh help on the housing supply as well what what do you think besides closing the border we can do on the housing side because i always view that one like to me a young person with a low interest rate who can put a little money down to get in to me that is the key to the whole the economic issue yeah i agree i mean so you can't gloss over the border situation right now we're seeing under control at least at the moment yeah well it's under control but you got to remove people you got to remove a lot of people are coming here and that's partially under control but we need to keep doing it when you're removing people then you're getting the supply back in whack and back in the place it should be and then secondly as i said we should not have foreigners owning our real estate i'm just being honest and people say well it's a free flow of money i don't know but why are like a bunch of folks in the middle east buying up condos in downtown austin why are and then why are major corporations and why can you have uh the profiteering on single family residences i just disagree with that i think those are some things you can do and the other thing we should do is frankly is open up some of the federal lands i'm not talking about our beautiful mountains and national parks that we want to preserve but there's i mean utah is what 80 federally owned arizona is something like 78 federally owned why don't we find some parcels of land and and be able to say look we're going to allow some some communities to go out here and get you know stake a claim like the mid 1800s like let's go out and use some of this stuff again i'm not talking about our national parks but we can do a lot to free things up and provide more supply uh get rid of some of the demand when you secure the border and stop the kind of constraint on the availability of single family residences by targeting these these corporations and foreigners i know we can probably talk about the wackiness of dc all day long so let's shift to texas because there is something wacky happening in texas can you guess where i'm going with this maybe but there is a lady named jasmine crockett who apparently thinks that she can be a senator from texas right this is uh shocking and appalling and also obvious to me.

6:47What is, like, Texas? What? Well, I mean, I've said before and quipped that the only Crockett we should be caring about in Texas is Davy Crockett. And, I mean, look, Jasmine Crockett is not going to be able to mobilize the people of Texas to back her for United States Senate. That's just not a thing. She's trying to grab a star and try to build up her brand and her ID. We'll have a serious race, obviously, in the Senate and the primary and the Attorney General's race. I'm running for attorney general. Yeah, we'll get. And we'll go through that this spring and then we'll get busy. We'll go beat Democrats and we'll be fine.

7:22But people should be alert in Texas that if we don't deal with the issues that are plaguing us, Democrats will take power. If we don't deal with the Islamification of Texas, if we don't deal with continued abuse of open borders, because just because President Trump has secured the border for now doesn't mean that a future Biden Mayorkas won't go right back to where they were. Remember, we had Trump. Then we had Biden Mayorkas. And we had hell for four years and Americans died. And we had a glut of people in the state. So we've got to get busy doing those things to fight and preserve Texas and make sure that we can keep a strong majority there of conservatives.

7:56So what is going on with the Islamification of Texas? You know, you're seeing all of these videos come out. From what I can see, it seems to be in the Dallas suburbs right around there, that there are just all of these cities, Sharia law. There's all these strange zoning things happening. I mean, people see it and say Dearborn, that's one thing. but texas i mean something just doesn't add up here yeah obviously you've got minneapolis you've got dearborn you've got now mamdani in new york you've got it all across the country but texas is is frankly ground zero if you talk to people who intelligence on this stuff and what the muslim brotherhood's view is they view dallas fort worth as where the epicenter is for them to be able to grow islam in the west and they've been there for a while remember the holy land foundation remember that that was 25 years ago 20 yeah three years ago um and they've got an unindicted co-conspirator from that who's affiliated with CARE, which is why I introduced legislation to take the tax status away from CARE.

8:49We've got a massive influx of people because we've allowed, Republicans have been guilty of this, allowed the pro-business world to say, well, we need all of our H-1Bs and we need to be able to have chain migration, diversity visas, so people can come here and bring their families from all over the world. And then we had the SIVs from Afghanistan. And so we had this massive glut of people coming in that are from cultures that don't want to assimilate. Remember that, you know, we're at 51 and a half million foreign born people in our country. That's about 16%. That's the highest rate we've ever had.

9:19That's bigger than it was in 1900 and 1920 when we had the massive inflow. And then those were people who were largely sharing our values, who were going to schools that were teaching America is great and trying to, you know, get people to understand Western civilization. And we didn't have a welfare state. Now we have a welfare state we're giving stuff for free we have schools that are teaching them that palestine's awesome not israel that you know uh that we're guilty of sin for slavery not you know the ottoman empire we're not teaching our kids any of that and then we're just allowing more people to come in with their broken visa system so that's why i introduced legislation to pause all immigration let's reset the whole structure and let's reclaim our sovereignty as a nation if we don't we're lose the country.

10:03So is that part of the reason that you want to be attorney general? Do you feel that you can be more effective in that way rather than trying to push through some of that at the federal level? For sure. I mean, you know, when I look at it, my son is 16, my daughter's 14. If we lose Texas, we lose the country. And, you know, God's given me this moment in time. I'm a former federal prosecutor, former first assistant attorney general. I was a lawyer to Governor Perry. I understand the state, but I've obviously been up here in the fight. I see the nexus of these major issues and I want to bring that fight as attorney general because we have got to we have got to get in there and fight these out let me give you an example uh the Islamification issue we've got to take that on and and be able to manage intelligently the defense of the first amendment which we all share as conservatives and limited government uh uh you know believers in the constitution that we want to preserve and protect the first amendment but you got to be able to recognize that sharia law is inconsistent with the first amendment of the constitution and western values.

10:57You've also got to recognize that we can make a strong argument that Islam is political, not religious. And we got to have smart people willing to make those arguments, be strong enough to stand up and say them, but also have the legal backing to be able to defend them in court. And then there's other issues like Plyler v. Doe. That was the Supreme Court opinion in the early 80s that said that we had to educate illegal alien children. It was a Texas case. We need to challenge that. It's ridiculous. Like birthright citizenship is in front of the courts now. We've been living under this sort of false set of rules that have been forcing us to lose our country.

11:31We should do the opposite. We live under rules to protect our country. So it seems to me that the easy version of this is, okay, you can close the border, which we've largely done. You can stem further immigration, at least temporarily. Okay, fine. Most people can get on board that. The more complex issue is now what Europe is having to deal with, which is they're going to have to kick out people who were born in their country, who are illegal citizens. And it seems to me, America is going to have to confront that too. we have a much better position because we're kind of 20 years behind them in all this.

11:58Are you ready to confront that sort of issue? Yeah, we should absolutely be removing people who are adherent to Sharia law. We should be removing people who are here who are certainly not citizens. Frankly, I think we should be reviewing some of the false notion of birthright citizenship. All of these corporate centers where people are bringing people over from China, from all over the world, having babies here. But we can review all of that and we can preserve and protect our country. people are here and they're citizens and they believe in this country and they want to assimilate then then you know we're all about you know people being able to do that but you've got to believe in america and want to assimilate and we've got to go through figure that out and remove people who don't fall into that class where you'll lose your country this is just basic self-preservation stuff and i'm fully uh capable willing and uh planning to uh engage in that as attorney general so assuming you become attorney general of texas are you worried at all what might happen to your seat Because, again, you are one of the prime, I'd say, defenders of freedom and liberty in Congress.

12:57Well, look, we've got a lot of good people that we've been bringing into the fold and folks that are now kind of moving up. You know, guys like Keith Self, who's from Plano, actually. And, you know, Josh Burkeen from Oklahoma. And, you know, we've got Eric Burleson from Missouri. He's a great guy in health care freedom. Got a lot of guys who are picking up the mantle and running. And look, you know, I think it's a team effort nationwide. nationwide and we've got to have strong people in governor's mansions we've got to have strong people in attorneys general's offices we've got a strong people here in the house representatives in the senate and then we've got obviously have strong people administration right now we've got a good team we've got to build it out we got to win in 26 we got to win in 28 we got to be prepared for when we do lose to not lose too much ground and to be able to keep moving in the right direction so we'll be fine uh the american people uh are wise enough to send good people here but uh you know i've got another year left i've still got 12 and a half percent of my tenure in congress left and uh go back and be attorney general then who knows what holds in the future what do you make of the general voting demographics of texas i think in most people's minds texas is this hardcore red state that's the thing we associate with it and then you look at i mean i saw something you can correct me if i'm wrong on this but there are actually more registered democrats than republicans in texas i don't know that's accurate but but let's give some you know there's a there's a large swath of independence also that makes the number of independence um but also remember what's been happening over the last two decades where we've gotten a movement in the hispanic population uh towards the republican party but particularly because president trump you know we had we were winning counties in south texas that we hadn't won in over a century uh we've been moving the needle with populations, people switching parties.

14:38We've got young Hispanics who are sick and tired of the open borders and the dangers and the cartels that are with us. And when you start talking about us versus them, meaning Western civilization versus Sharia law, I promise you, the Hispanic population in Texas, they want to promote their Catholic faith and their Christian values, and they don't want to see the advancement of Sharia law. So I think we've got the makings of a strong and powerful coalition in Texas, not unlike 1836. A lot of the people who've moved to Texas have done so seeking refuge from leftist hell holes throughout the rest of the country and they've moved to Texas now yes some people have moved there because their businesses move them there and they suck and they need to go back to California but most people that I talk to and I run into I got a lot of people in my district that I represent outside of Austin who moved there and they're rabid conservatives because they were in Washington State or Chicago or someplace where they were suffering and they wanted to live free we've just got to make Texas stronger get rid of the property tax so you can own your home again make sure george soros da's aren't putting criminals on the streets secure the border of texas even if joe biden and alejandro mayorkas don't or the future version of those because they were leaving our state exposed texas should just say no and i think we did an okay job but we could do a better job holding the line and saying look it's our border you don't get to come in where are you guys on the property tax stuff as you know i'm in florida where de santis is fight i feel like this is going to be his final gift to us we'll see what happens well obviously i think the think the world of governor de santos i think he's right to pick that fight we need to pick that fight in texas uh look we all we keep chipping away at it but it's all it's like stemming the the tire you know you know uh trying to stop the bleeding by just minimally impacting the valuations we need to slash or eliminate the property tax because you just never own your home and that's it's absurd and you you can first shrink government rule one One, our government in Texas is too big.

16:29Two is modify the tax structure in terms of sales taxes or other ways that we can make sure we've got the income. But we also have a$20 billion surplus. So let's get people to where they can own their homes. Let's fix that for the average Texan. I hope Governor DeSantis is successful in leading on that effort this cycle. What else do you want to see Trump do from now to the midterms or the Republicans in general to make sure that it isn't what most people that have sat in that chair today are predicting? Well, look, a lot of people are saying we're going to lose the midterms. I think those become self-fulfilling prophecies.

17:03Let's go lead, right? Let's do what we said we would do. We came in and for six months we fought. We pulled with a three-seat margin. We delivered tax cuts. We delivered Medicaid reforms. We put work requirements in place. We cut back half of the green news scam subsidies. We've got gas going in the right direction. We've got a border that's getting secured. We put funding in place for defense and for the border that enabled us to be able to navigate through a shutdown that Democrats put in place. You try to pick apart one winning issue on health care. I would stick it right back in their face.

17:31I would pass a massive health care freedom bill with a second reconciliation package right out of the gate in January, February. And I would make it where we're empowering doctors and patients and people, not insurance companies and bureaucrats. Let them go own it. You like your Obamacare? You can keep it. We're going to give you a freedom option. Seriously, let's just do it. Why do I care? You want to go into that system? Go ahead. But we're going to give you a freedom option. Massively expanded health savings accounts, direct primary care, health sharing ministries, all the ways that we can allow people to defray costs and get prices down.

18:01Let's get to the affordability issue. Let's address the housing stuff we talked about before. Let's ban congressional stock trading. Let's make sure that we codify some of the border security issues. Send it over to the Senate. And if the Senate wants to block it, let them run on those things. But let's go on offense instead of sitting around going, what do we need to do to just try to navigate through them and win them? You'll lose. It's like playing prevent defense. People always blame defenses in a football game, and they collapse and let them score, but they forget that the offense went three and out four straight times.

18:29But you think the defense is exhausted after the offense went three and out? Let's get back on offense. Stop going three and out because that's all we've been doing. What has changed for you in your years from when you walked into Congress to now? well my kids are older i'm older uh you know look besides age yeah look i think what she like came in in 2018 i think what has changed is i think the battle landscape has become clearer i think the the push by the president i think where things have gone from a maga standpoint um and look i i was open and i supported governor de santos you and i took a lot of hits And look, he's a dear friend, and I don't regret that.

19:10But what I would say is that Governor DeSantis himself in Florida, President Trump in leading the MAGA effort, has helped draw the bright lines that need to be drawn. And I think we now know the landscape of the fight. I think what happened to Charlie Kirk demonstrates the landscape of the fight. I'm going to go host a hearing in just about an hour on the Southern Poverty Law Center in Antifa and the massive network of radical leftists and Marxists who are well-funded, whether it's Arabella and all the operatives, whether it's George Soros, whether it's Bill Gates, whether it's United Nations, whether it's other NGOs, taxpayer dollars, outside money from foreign governments, all of that's coming into a network to destabilize our country.

19:49And I think we need to expose that further and demonstrate that there is, in fact, a war against our way of life trying to dismantle America. And we need to rally again as Americans to fight back and preserve it for our kids and grandkids. I think that's what's changed, that landscape. The old guard Republicans, you guys are done. Like we're not sitting around, you know, talking about the old days, you know, in here in D.C. and what we need to do to preserve and protect, you know, institutions here in D.C. for the sake of it, as opposed to preserving and protecting institutions for the sake of freedom and for the sake of the people being able to be sovereign.

20:21Well, since you're going to that hearing in about an hour, do you think what Trump did with the Muslim Brotherhood was enough? I know a lot of people thought that there were some things related to Turkey and Qatar, maybe, that were left off, especially in backdrop of what you just said about what's going on in tech sure i i think we look i mean first of all i'm glad he declared cartels his terrorist organizations i'm glad he's leaned into the fight he declared antifa terrorist organization i think we need to go harder and faster at the muslim brotherhood and harder and faster at care and other groups um look i think we need to be careful about playing footsie with the middle east because of dollars and that's my concern that's not directly administration that's a general point universities my good friend rick perry in texas right it was i love him crawl over broken glass for him but i think we played a little bit too much played footsie with uh you know oh we'll have you know texas a &m and their relationship with cutter and so forth like guys we need to preserve and protect this country and we need to understand that there's a lot of people who want to do us harm and the people that are going after israel the people that are going after us it is purposeful and it is um it is something that we've got to address and i think we need to be more aggressive than we have do you think some of that was just naivete you know 10 years ago they're just pouring money into the university someone like rick perry's gone well this is nice we're going to build some nice buildings and i think it's about i think there was a belief and remains a belief that we can win the argument with our western values and our judeo-christian principles and pushing those out and i think that belies history at the moment like yes i think we're spreading like you know christianity is an example is growing around the globe and that's great and it's growing and but there's also persecutions around the globe.

21:57There's also a massive and rapid expanse of Islam around the globe. And that tension has existed for millennia and is at a boiling point at the moment. And I think we need to address it, recognize it, and pick sides. You can't win a war that you don't recognize is occurring. And you've got to recognize that war exists and then pick sides. That's why this whole business about Israel and it's like, guys, whatever criticisms you want to mount, Israel is standing there as our ally athwart evil that's the reality so stop pretending that's not the case and you know going and pursuing random you know conspiracy theories and let's align and do what we need to do to defeat the evil that wants to undermine western civilization well even though we've lost some of the political battles that we've been on the same side of I enjoy fighting with you appreciate it

From the publisher

Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Rep. Chip Roy about why Texans will ultimately reject Jasmine Crockett's senate run; the challenges Republicans face heading into a new Congress; why Republicans need a clear legislative strategy focused on affordability, healthcare, and housing costs; why securing the southern border is essential to national sovereignty and housing supply; shifting Hispanic voter trends in Texas and his concerns about immigration policy; why Republicans need to go on offense; and much more.

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