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22 Sep 2026 · 1 h · 15 chapters

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In short

Dave Rubin discusses Donald Trump banning CNN, MSNBC/MSNBC, and Politico from White House press briefings/access, arguing it’s not a First Amendment issue because the outlets “lie,” and that other administrations (e.g., Obama) previously tried to exclude Fox. He also connects the media fight to broader culture-war claims about Democrats being taken over by socialists, immigration policy, and AI regulation fears.

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No guests appear in the transcript as interview subjects; it includes commentary and clips featuring other media figures (e.g., Scott Jennings on CNN) and politicians (e.g., Eric Adams/Mamdami referenced as NYC mayoral figure), plus clips of Elon Musk, Barack Obama-era officials, and Bernie Sanders/others.

Key claims

Mainstream media is “left shifted” and “lies about everything”; Trump is restricting “special access,” not speech; Democrats have been overtaken by socialists; immigration should deny green cards to likely welfare users; AI regulation should rely on existing laws to avoid ceding advantage to China.

Notable examples

Trump’s ban announcement naming CNN, MSNBC, and Politico; CNN/Scott Jennings debate; comparisons to Obama-era efforts to exclude Fox; clips about Trump’s social media bans; Kalshi market mention; references to “public charge” green-card rule lawsuit involving Mamdami; Elon Musk on legacy media; Axelrod/Obama Fox exclusion clips; AI “robots” segment.

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Trump's Banning of Media Outlets

2:53 to 4:40

Dave discusses Trump's decision to ban certain media outlets from press briefings.

“I didn't majorly wrong anyone this past year, but I threw in a couple apologies out there.”

Reactions to Trump's Actions

4:40 to 7:29

Exploration of the reactions to Trump's media ban and the implications for democracy.

“We're gonna start with this Donald Trump fella.”

Trump and Mamdani Relationship

7:29 to 12:41

Analyzing Trump's relationship with NYC Mayor Mamdani amid ongoing controversies.

“okay, well then we're just gonna boycott Trump.”

CNN's Response to the Ban

12:41 to 14:00

Dave discusses CNN's response to being banned from press briefings and the broader implications.

“And I'm curious to hear what all your feelings are on that.”

Trump's Immigration Policies and Lawsuits

14:00 to 16:40

Discussion on Trump's immigration policy and legal challenges related to green cards.

“And if you're going to be very dependent, you shouldn't get in, which obviously makes sense if you're going to be more of a drain than say the average person coming for a green card.”

Media Hypocrisy and Free Speech Issues

16:40 to 19:20

Exploration of media hypocrisy regarding free speech and coverage of Trump.

“because who knows what government contacts they had that were working together on this, even though Trump was the president, than anything Trump did here for sure.”

Public Reactions to Trump's Media Ban

19:55 to 23:05

Discussion on public and media reactions to Trump's restrictions on certain media outlets.

“But I actually am very curious to hear all of your thoughts on this.”

Comparing Media Access Between Administrations

23:05 to 28:00

Analyzing the differences in media access and treatment between Trump's and Obama's administrations.

“But that is what the mainstream media has pushed.”

Media Coverage and Presidential Access

28:00 to 30:12

Discussion about media coverage of the president and the implications of banning access based on negative reporting.

“that give him, some give him good coverage, bad coverage, sideways coverage, whatever.”

Critique of Democratic Socialism

30:19 to 34:42

A critical examination of Democratic Socialism and its influence on the Democratic Party.

“We're gonna get, all right, we're working on the Biden numbers right there.”
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The Shift in Political Ideologies

34:42 to 42:36

Analyzing the shift in political ideologies within the Democratic Party and the implications for moderates.

“Some of them are just large guys from Chicago who should be on Ozempic, but aren't.”

AI: The Future and Its Risks

42:42 to 47:55

Exploring the potential benefits and dangers of AI development.

“to the big story of last week because suddenly everyone thought at the exact same time that the robots were coming to kill us.”

Political Implications of AI

47:55 to 51:29

Discussion on the political landscape surrounding AI regulation and its global impact.

“Here's Scott Besson talking a bit about what's going on with the negotiations around AI in China right now.”

Border Policies and Their Consequences

51:29 to 56:00

Examining the implications of open borders and immigration policies.

“a Javier Malay accent right now, but just anywhere these people are, they ruin everything, everything, everything, everything.”

Poland's Strict Border Policies

56:00 to 1:02:31

Discussion on Poland's approach to immigration and border security.

“Like whether the Democrats win or you win in the midterms or whatever, like you got a lot of work to do and you better do it fast because otherwise we screwed.”
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2:43How you doing, people? I'm Dave Rubin. This is The Rubin Report. It's September 22nd, 2026, and it's our first live show of the week, even though it's Tuesday. Thank you for bearing with us yesterday. Obviously, it was the holiest day in the Jewish calendar, so I was off and fasted and atoned for my sins. I even apologized to a couple people. I didn't majorly wrong anyone this past year, but I threw in a couple apologies out there. So we are back at it today in studio, ready to roll before I do anything. Well, first off, you can check our First Look podcast every morning. If you're just subscribed on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, all the stuff, that'll show up in your feed.

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4:28And YouTube, is it gremlins in there? Is it people that don't like me over at The Algorithm? Is it just the way it all is? I don't know. But what I do know about is the culture war and the political war, and that's what we're gonna dive into today. We're gonna start with this Donald Trump fella. He is fighting with the media. That's never happened before, but it's happening again. And then we'll talk a little bit about what's going on, And of course, with just the socialist takeover of the left and we'll extrapolate that all over the country as it relates to immigration and the midterms that are now basically less than six weeks away.

5:01And I think we'll genuinely decide the future of the United States of America. So what I wanted to start with actually happened a few days ago, you probably heard about it already, but it was Donald Trump announcing that he is banning several outlets, most notably CNN and MSNOW, from the White House press briefings, listen to this. I am proud to announce that effective immediately, I am banning fake news CNN, MSNOW, who recently changed their name from MSNBC due to lack of viewership and credibility, and Politico, the recipients of an illegal and ridiculous$8 million subscription, an all-time record directly from the United States government under crooked Joe Biden, in order to keep them alive, seems like corruption to me, that was a hell of a sentence, from the White House as a result of their constant reporting fake news.

5:48Media outlets shouldn't be able to constantly write or report fiction and lies when they're covering the president of the United States, the Trump administration, or the United States of America. Other fake news media outlets to follow. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. Okay, so obviously over the last couple of days, this turned into a huge firestorm. We'll show you some media reaction to it in just a second. Let me just lay out one thing here that first off, this is not a First Amendment issue. He didn't stop CNN from broadcasting. He didn't walk over to MSNOW offices and slap Joe Scarborough in the face and say, why are you married to that crazy woman and putting out all of this nonsense?

6:27What he said is you guys are not gonna get access to the press pool, just like tons of outlets don't get access to the press pool. They also, it is just simply a fact, and we will illustrate it repeatedly throughout today's program, that they lie. And they lie about everything. Now they can lie, right? The First Amendment protects lying. I wish CNN would report things honestly, say COVID, very fine people, Hunter Biden laptop, et cetera, et cetera. They don't. And they've then been given access. Trump has finally had enough. It is pushing back. So it's not a First Amendment issue. Now optically, let me just say one other thing.

7:02I don't know that optically it is the best thing for Trump right now, because whether it is a First Amendment issue or it isn't, it isn't, people will view it as such. They will view it as him having some sort of tantrum. So people who are on the fence about Trump maybe see the crazies on the left and they're like, I'm not part of that. But then Trump picking this fight, seeming to be attacking CNN and MSNBC, no matter how bad they are, optically, it may not be the best for him. However, they suddenly then all said, okay, well then we're just gonna boycott Trump. And of course they're not gonna boycott Trump because without Trump, their rather crappy ratings would be even crappier.

7:39So Trump is now, right this moment, I think he might be giving the speech right now, he's in New York City for the UN General Assembly, which is, you know, this is where every year all the worst people in the world show up at the UN and rant against capitalism and freedom and America and Western values and all that stuff. Anyway, he's there, he met, he met with Mom Dummy, and well, they were asked about Trump banning CNN and MSNOW, take a look. Mr. President, are you banning outlets like MSNOW, CNN, and Politico in order to distract from the Iran war and high gas prices? I told the president that we're going to have all of the members of the press here on the lawn.

8:22And that is something that I believe in is everyone, no matter the opinion or the critique, that we engage. And I don't know, Mr. President. It's interesting because they said they were going to boycott me, but they never boycott me. So I wasn't very worried about that. Look at all that press. But no, I'm not. I'm only doing it because I think the press also is an obligation. And you know, I won in a landslide. I won the election in a landslide. I've done great things. I've done a lot of great things. All right. So first off, Mamdami, who obviously is a snake and a liar and a closet jihadist and and a con man and trying to destroy America and everything else, when he says, well, I told the president everyone was gonna be here, except Trump banned them from White House press briefings.

9:05That was at Gracie Mansion at the mayor's residence. So it had nothing to do with it. They then said they were gonna boycott Trump. And then as Trump points out, of course they didn't boycott him. Of course they show up. They have nothing without him. Again, I'm sort of ambivalent or I'm 50-50 on whether this was a good idea or not, but Trump's broader point at the end is, These guys lie about everything. We have a world that is significantly different than say 20 years ago, or here, we're during the 25th anniversary of 9-11. When 9-11 happened, something that Mom Domi is happy about, when 9-11 happened, everyone tuned into CNN.

9:42It was just like you watch, yeah, MSNOW existed, Fox existed, but it was like CNN is the most trusted name of news and you watch CNN. Think about the 25 years subsequent, the rise of the internet, all of the people who talk, Like why does CNN just get a seat in there all the time when they lie about everything? Why does, like, try, run it, run it through AI before it destroys the world. Has Dave Rubin lied about as many things as CNN? And I'm gonna say my track record's pretty good, or MSNBC. So the point is, Trump is saying, basically he's saying the world has changed. People don't tune into them as much.

10:16Why should they get this seat there all the time? So I'm obviously sympathetic to what Trump is doing. Again, I just don't know if it works sort of optically or electorally or anything else. Now, that aside for a moment, seeing Trump and Mamdami together is jarring to say the least. Look, Trump knows how to keep his friends closer and his enemies closer, and I think he's doing a degree of that. He's in New York City already, but this is a guy who basically is calling him a fascist and a genocide supporter and a pedophile and all of the worst things. and if Mamdami had the power, would he jail Trump?

10:54Obviously, right? But Trump plays with him there, and here he is talking about what his hopes are for Mamdami, and I'll let you be the judge on it. I certainly hope he will be a great mayor. You have to understand, I want what's good for New York. I want what's good for the country. So if I had a choice of having him be a bad mayor or horrible mayor, I don't want that. I want him to be a great mayor, and he's certainly got potential, got great potential. All right, so I don't know exactly what to say about that. Like, it's true in a certain sense, right? Whether you like that Mamdami is the mayor or not, whether you think he has nefarious intentions or not, all that stuff.

11:32Like, do I want him to be a success in that I want New York City to succeed? I want the people there to feel safe and have opportunity to pursue their happiness and live in a flourishing economy and all those things. Yes, but is Mamdami the avatar for the reverse of all that? The answer is yes, and Trump knows that. So I get it. It's sort of like, remember when, I think it was Bill Maher if I'm not mistaken, when Trump took over the second time and Bill Maher was like, well, look, he's the pilot of the plane and I don't want the plane to crash. So, you know, let's see what happens. That's pretty much what Trump is doing there.

12:10I would have liked to have seen him needle him a little bit more. Like I would have liked to have seen him say, but I don't think socialism is the way to do it. Like you can put that on true social all the time with all your exclamation points and everything else. But like, there you are with the guy, with the guy who is now leading. He is the ideological leader of the party. And you guys know my feelings on where the party is. And I think Trump agrees with that. So maybe in that moment, when you're standing right next to him, you're the president of the United States, maybe say something. But again, friends close, enemies closer.

12:40I get it. I just wanted to put that out there. And I'm curious to hear what all your feelings are on that. Over on CNN, Scott Jennings, with a bunch of people who are significantly less bright than him, they debated the optics around all of that.

13:01All right, Scott, do you agree with Trump that Mondani has great potential? Potential? Yeah, he has the potential to, you know, bring about the downfall of America, sure. And look, Trump also said Mondani is off to a good start. Do you agree with him? look he's a new yorker i don't i don't agree with much of anything mom donnie has done do i want the president and mayor of new york city whoever they are to have a relationship of course i do and i don't have any problem at all with him meeting now that having been said mom donnie is currently suing trump over this public charge rule on the welfare for immigrants which i thought the president might bring up today but i guess it didn't come up uh but do i have a problem with meeting?

13:42No, of course not. Yeah. So Jennings and I are basically in lockstep on this, right? It's not about meeting him. Do we wish he would have noodled him a little bit more and nudged him a little bit more and poked him and made fun of him? Yes. Do we want the city to be successful? Yes. Do either of us think that the city will be successful under this guy? No. Also, he did bring up the point. We covered it last week. Mondami's literally suing the Trump administration right now because Trump wants to make sure that if you're applying for a green card, they're going to look at your history and see how likely it is that you'll be more dependent on government programs.

14:16And if you're going to be very dependent, you shouldn't get in, which obviously makes sense if you're going to be more of a drain than say the average person coming for a green card. Like we have to have some level of discernment on top of the fact that he's running a sanctuary city, which should be illegal and everything else. So they're in a lawsuit. So you would have liked, I think, and Scott was saying it too, as gingerly as possible, you would have liked to have seen a bit more snappiness or bitingness out of Trump there. Then they got into this issue around CNN being banned from the Trump White House press briefings, which again, that was at Gracie Manchin, not at the White House, but take a look.

14:56You would agree though, that a lot of the people who are sort of up in arms about this are some of the same people who are clamoring for Trump to be thrown off social media though, yes? No, I think the people that are up in arms are the people, our colleagues at this network. But, but that's what I think. I feel like there's, there's a, some kind of hypocrisy regarding the speech issue. If you're mad about reporters being restricted from going to the White House to report, why would you simultaneously have been someone that would have called for Donald Trump? Is there two separate issues? No, it's not.

15:24It's a speech. No, government and a corporate. Trying to restrict the speech of a government official is also not a good idea, right? It's not against the First Amendment. We're talking about the First Amendment, correct? We disagree. I agree with you. It's not the first amendment. It's not the first amendment. We're just having a discussion about what's good practice. And some people wanted to stop Trump from speaking. Okay, guy, at the end, it's not worth knowing any of these people's names. You're right. It's not the first amendment. It's not. No one's stopping them from speaking. Again, you could disagree.

15:58I'm not sure where I fall on this yet. Like, was this a good idea? Does it make look Trump kind of petty or weak or whatever. Perhaps it does. But Scott is right. Think about what they all did. What did they all do back right after January 6th? Suddenly Snapchat and Instagram and Facebook and YouTube and everybody else, they stopped. They literally, they did something that superseded the power of the government. They stopped the sitting president from the United States from being able to communicate with the people directly. That would be more of a fascistic and that it was a corporate overtake in some sense of the government, that is far more of an assault on free, at least the spirit of free speech and potentially even the First Amendment because who knows what government contacts they had that were working together on this, even though Trump was the president, than anything Trump did here for sure.

16:50But the broader point again is that as the media has changed to all of the old dinosaurs just to automatically get to sit there forever and lie about everything because they do lie about everything. Connor, can you pull out clip 32B of them lying about everything? Trump has been suspended from Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and even Snapchat. But don't worry, Mr. President, there are still plenty of apps you do have access to. You still have Spotify to drown out the sound of millions of people cheering as you leave. I love having Donald Trump off Twitter, not to mention all the other toxic racists and conspiracy theorists that have been booted off.

17:31Oh, damn. A lifetime Twitter ban has got a sting. They took away his precious. Trump's basically the Pete Rose of social media. I thought we'd take a quick look outside and see, has the world changed since our president has been banned from Twitter? Let's just look outside and see what's going on.

18:00Well, today, Musk said that one of the first things he would do after the acquisition goes through is lift the permanent Twitter ban on Donald Trump. Tell you what, banning Trump was like one of the few kind of almost good things Twitter's done in like a decade. All right, so that actually wasn't a compilation of just the lies. We've showed you the compilation of lies. That was a compilation of celebrating when the president of the United States, when corporations, those were all ABC, NBC, CBS talking heads. That's what those people are. They get millions of dollars to read out a corporate line and act as, you know, a party apparatus for the Democrats, celebrating that the president of the United States could not communicate with you.

18:44Interestingly, only one of those talking heads still has a job. Well, I guess two of them technically do. Fallon still got the job Robin Kimmel now is in his last year, but the rest, they're just not needed anymore because they were all carbon copies of each other. But again, whether it's that the mainstream media has lied about so much, or they then celebrate when other people's right to free speech is impinged upon, including the president of the United States, and then they're all up in arms, and oh my God, CNN isn't gonna get preferential treatment at a White House press briefing so that they can lie about something again?

19:16And then, like, I just don't have the emotional depth to cry for them at the moment. What I do have is the emotional depth to talk about Kalshi. Guys, speaking of the media, when will the White House announce an end to its press ban? This is an interesting one. Well, here, right there, is what the Kalshi markets are showing. As you know, Kalshi's like buying or selling a stock, except the line isn't set by an algorithm working against you. It moves based on where the money goes. So if you put$100 on yes before October, you can earn$323 if correct. That's kind of interesting. Download the CallShe app and use code RUBENREPORT to get 25 bucks when you trade 25.

19:51CallShe, put your money where your prediction is. You know what we will do? We don't do it often. We do it every now and again. We do it during Q &As and everything. But I actually am very curious to hear all of your thoughts on this. So whether you're watching on Locals, obviously we're always checking your comments specifically, but if you're watching on Rumble, YouTube, whatever, we will read a couple of comments at the top of the show tomorrow related to all of this. What do you personally think, despite, I get it, if you're watching this show, you know they lie, you know they celebrate the lies, you know they're hypocrites and all that, but do you think that this is a good move by Trump?

20:22Is it a winning move by Trump? I am curious to see what you think. We'll read a couple of those at the top of the show tomorrow. But let's continue because everyone knows this is what the media has done. We've shown you this clip before, but I think it sets up our second segment here nicely. Elon Musk on Rogan talking about the legacy media. The media is incredibly partisan. Almost all the media is left shifted. So it's kind of weird. If you talk to somebody who gets all that information from what I call legacy media, they're living in a different world than if they, say, are listening to your podcast or are getting news from X.

20:55It's kind of wild. It is very wild. It's like they're living in an ultimate reality. Okay. And you guys certainly, by watching the show, you understand that, right? And it's rare these days that I get into sort of personal conversations with people who live in that other world anymore. I just don't know many of them anymore. They don't approach me anymore, whatever. I'm not in communication with a lot of them anymore. But you know, if someone is just towing the line on what, see, imagine if you were with somebody, imagine you're on a date, you're on a first date, and you find out that that chick or dude gets their information from CNN or MSNBC, you live on a different planet from them, right?

21:31My neighbor over here, nice guy, don't know that much about him, but if he's watching that stuff, the world that he lives in, even though he literally lives physically next door to me, is a complete other world. So Elon, by getting X, opened up the ability for us to exchange these ideas freely, because let's not forget the old regime of Twitter was one of the things that booted Trump off. So now we will show you, let's go to a different one. Let's go to clip 72 1A-6 mainstream media lying. We are not fake news, we are real news. Much of the dossier has been corroborated. Some rioters were planning to murder lawmakers.

22:10What does Putin have on Trump? Has Trump been compromised? That Kavanaugh aided and abetted in the commission of a gang rape. But it does look like that young man to me is taunting the Native American Vietnam vet. And he's in his face. When you start whipping people with, you want to split hairs between reins and whips. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden. Looking ahead to 2020, one reason why I'm taking you seriously as a contender is because of your presence on cable news. A widely held conspiracy theory that the coronavirus was created in a Chinese laboratory.

22:46Dr. Fauci, thank you for keeping it straight. Thank you for fighting the good fight. God, it's incredible watching that stuff, right? Like, think about the millions and millions of people that were duped by so much of that. Now, I wasn't really duped by any of it, and I hope that you weren't really duped by any of it. And we can all look back on COVID and say we made mistakes here and there. But that is what the mainstream media has pushed. And that is what Trump now, 11 years into, coming down that escalator is pushing back against. Again, optically, maybe it's not gonna work. But the point here is that he now has an opportunity to open stuff up even further to the online media.

23:26And the online media has plenty of problems. But of course, what the Democrats are gonna do, and this is why I'm curious your thoughts on this. Of course, what the Democrats are gonna do is say that this is Trump, this was Trump's plan. This was the ultimate assault on the media. So they had Barack Obama out there this weekend, and he just, he's got his, oh my God, the vapors. He's freaking. My imagination could not foresee some of the stuff that's going on right now. I believe there was just an announcement that the White House decided. You know what? CNN, MSN, MSNOW, maybe the New York Times was included, you just can't come to the White House press briefings anymore because you're giving the current president unfavorable coverage.

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24:16I'm trying to think what would have happened if I had said, you know what, Fox News, you're out of here. It's unimaginable. Oh, well, we'll get to how unimaginable it is in a second. But even right there, he lies because he didn't say, Trump's not doing it because they're giving him unfavorable coverage. We just showed you one of the gajillion compilations of them blatantly lying about everything, blatantly lying about the Covington kids are racist, blatantly lying about very fine people on both sides, blatantly lying about COVID, blatantly lying like we do this all the time. You get it, right?

24:50So it's not that they're giving him unfair coverage. They are giving 180 the reverse of the truth when it comes to it. And then these are the very same people who for four years under Joe Biden told us there was nothing wrong with pudding for brains. But OK, Barry, imagine if you did it. Well, we didn't have to imagine very hard because we just went back to 2009. And here's Obama's White House chief strategist, David Axelrod, talking to George Stephanopoulos, who pretends to be a newsman. But of course, he worked in the Bill Clinton White House. And yes, they were trying to ban Fox from pretty much everything.

25:24Appearing on ABC News last Sunday, presidential advisor David Axelrod argued Fox News is not a real news organization. And the bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way. And today, the White House took its first concrete step in that direction. The administration contacted the White House pool, the five-network rotation that has for decades shared the cost and duties of daily coverage of the presidency, and to which Fox News has belonged since 1997, and made available for round-robin interviews the executive pay czar Ken Feinberg. But the administration specified that all members of the pool were welcome except Fox News.

26:01The Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV news networks consulted that none of them would interview Feinberg unless Fox was included. Oh, so Barry, Barry, you can't imagine that this is happening except it's literally what you did. Literally what you did. And actually, the Obama administration did even worse. This clip 62-1A-N79-er. Your colleague Anita Dunn told the New York Times this week that Fox News was undertaking a war against the White House and said the White House would treat Fox the way we would an opponent. The only argument Anita was making is that they're not really a news station.

26:44If you watch even, it's not just their commentators, but a lot of their news programming, it's really not news. Documents released this week show the Obama administration secretly monitored a Washington journalist. In seeking a search warrant, the FBI called James Rosen a criminal co-conspirator, even though he is in charge with any crime. But the press says it's gotten worse lately. The only photographer allowed inside some key White House meetings now actually works for the White House. Reporters and photographers frustrated that independent media are shut out of even routine presidential events at the White House.

27:17no reporters, no photographers, so no uncomfortable questions of the president. I mean, they're really just making our job easy. Like, this is not difficult. I mean, yeah, Conor does have to press that button. And I would imagine your finger might, after a certain amount of time, just calling out the BS, you could get a little bursitis in the index finger. It's just, this is exactly what Obama did. But of course, he's one of them. And the irony also, of course, is that when the Obama administration was always, always going after Fox. Fox was the one outlier. Everybody else was sucking them off every day, right?

27:50They had one guy who wasn't sucking them off and they weren't happy with him. They wanted endless sucking, okay? Where what Trump is doing is there's tons of people in there that give him, some give him good coverage, bad coverage, sideways coverage, whatever. He's just going after the ones that have been lying about everything all the time. Here's JD, I think, making another just kind of good point around the optics of this whole thing. Vice President, so CNN, MSN, and Politico are now suing over the ban. Do you think it's appropriate for the president to be banning media outlets just because he doesn't like what they report?

28:23Well, I take some issue with the premise. So he's not banning media outlets. What he's doing is saying, we're not going to give you special access to the White House if you engage in what is effectively propaganda. We have to remember, those three outlets account, about 92 % of the stories that they have on the president of the United States, on the administration, are negative. That's not representative of the American people. It's not representative of public opinion. So if you're going to engage in what is effectively far left propaganda, why would a Republican White House give you special access?

28:51Okay, so it's an interesting point that he's making a distinction between just having just a ban and having special access, which is what they've had. That's one point. I've already made the broader point 20 times, but you heard him just say that number, but they give him 92 % negative coverage. Well, we actually put it in Grok and it is true. I am completely shocked. Actually, while I read this ad, why don't you check what kind of, what was the percentage of positive or negative coverage they did on Biden for all of those years? Or how often did they cover his mental state or something? Just do a little work while I do this, okay?

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30:20We're gonna get, all right, we're working on the Biden numbers right there. You gotta work on this quick because I got ZipRecruiter, man, and there's a lot of people that would love to sit in that chair. The Democrats are horrible. They're horrible, horrible people. and their leader is this buffoon, San Piker. He is a LARPing socialist, meaning the guy is making like 500 grand a month on Twitch at least. He's worth at least 10 million bucks, lives in Beverly Hills, all of the stuff. Awful human being, hates America, is telling young people that they don't need to suicide bomb anymore. They can just use Chinese made drones.

30:51He's excused the assassination attempt on Donald Trump, the assassination attempt on the United Healthcare CEO. The list goes on and on. Well, he's been making the rounds on the media And here he fully admits, I mean, this is, many of us have been saying this for years. They're not Democrats. They're not liberals. They're antithetical to liberalism, actually. But liberals put tolerance at the highest peak of the hierarchy, right? So it creates a situation where you are so tolerant that you will let in intolerance. And here he is admitting that all they had to do was bring in socialists to take over the Democrat Party.

31:27I'm not running for office. I have no interest in running for office. But what we've been able to do, what this movement has been able to do in the last year, especially, is run candidates that are openly socialist under the Democratic Party's ballot. and and we've actually had a lot of successes with uh democratic socialist insurgencies yeah that have been able to unseat some fairly powerful long-term incumbent uh congresspersons all right so that right there ladies and gentlemen is the quiet part out loud they are not democrats they he says socialist then he backs up and says democrat socialist but of course that just didn't It was just always fake.

32:13It was just a patina of a semblance of moderation, let's say, while they were allowing the crazies to take over. But this is the party right now. I despise the guy and I think his ideas are awful and I genuinely think he hates America, but I will give him credit for doing exactly what he said he is going to do. They have taken over the party. They're taking out all of the moderate Democrats who I didn't think were that great anyway, but at least there was a general sense that they thought the country was good. They just liked maybe a little bit more government. Maybe they wanted a little more immigration.

32:48Like we can whittle away what the differences are and not that they're so irrelevant, right? Like a lot of them were for eight month abortions and that's not great, but they weren't America hating lunatics like these new people. So he's admitting it. And so every time you hear them say, oh, well, we're the big tent. He just told you right there. It's not that we're a big tent. We just took over the tent. And that is a fundamental difference. He also did an interview last week. I think it was with Axios. And well, here's a gem out of that one. You once said that America is the top dog in terrorism.

33:21Yes. Do you think America then is worse than Al Qaeda? Pound for pound, as far as the number of deaths. Yes, we have caused tremendous terror all around the world. I mean, this is the guy that the Democrats have hitched their wagon to. This is a guy that was campaigning, that has multiply, repeatedly campaigned with Bernie, He's been out there with AOC. He's been out there with El-Sayed. He's been there with Mamdami. He is the one that they all show up at his studio and he rifles off his 10 questions and they all have to nod their head. And yes, America is worse than Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda which blew up the Trade Center.

33:55Al-Qaeda which beheads people. Al-Qaeda, like it's so profoundly ridiculous and that he sits there. Can you just go back and just show a picture of him? Like even the way he dresses now, how he's trying to come off as just like this perfect Colombian professor. It's just all just, I don't even wanna look at the guy again, but look, like the color tones, you can see what they're doing. They are creating a character. This is what they do. You can come back to me, people get it. They're creating a character. The way they took AOC, who was a bartender, and they casted her to be this thing. And that Mamdami used to have a strange kind of Indian affect accent from Uganda, and then that shifted.

34:34These are all fake. They are actors and LARPers, but again, they're destroying the country, so that's. But some of them are just what they are. Some of them are just large guys from Chicago who should be on Ozempic, but aren't. And they're afraid of that brown shirt wearing, psychotic, jihadist, socialist nut bag. Here's J.B. Pritzker. America's bigger terrorist force than Al Qaeda. Is it time for Democrats just to say point blank, this guy, we have nothing to do with this guy, we denounce this guy and don't want his support. I'm not focused on the streamers and what they're saying. There's a whole lot of them and they got a whole lot of views.

35:14He's got a pretty big following. And I understand that. I'm just saying that what I think we should be talking about and focused on is how do we stop Donald Trump in his tracks? How do I mean, a lot of the energy in the Democratic Party right now is clearly on the left, far left. I mean, Democratic Socialists of America, DSA, You've had a number of their candidates winning in these Democratic primaries. Are you concerned about that? Look, what Democrats share in common is that we have a common message. The first thing that we're fighting for is against Donald Trump and the Republicans, the MAGAs, who are raising costs for people.

35:49Oh, yes, yes. That's your, of course, your common cause is Donald Trump, of course. First off, Pritzker, let me make this clear. I think you're wrong about everything. You're a do-nothing Democrat. You're an embarrassment to Illinois. the amount of people that get killed all the time in Chicago, although you're not the mayor there, but that's a little something to do with you and sanctuary state and all that stuff. You're terrible, horrible, whatever. I don't think you absolutely hate America. I just think you're a dim-witted Democrat idiot. I don't think you fundamentally wanna bring the jihadists here or anything else.

36:18I just think you're afraid of your own shadow and you think, and John Carl, he's trying to give you a chance. You know, these guys are pretty powerful and what are you gonna do about it and whatever. He's giving you a chance to say, I want nothing to do with them. I'm an old school Democrat, here's what I believe, and let me lay out a positive vision for the future. But you can't do that because you're afraid of them, and they're going to eat you too. You eat everything at Grand Buffet, and they're going to eat you. Over on Bill Maher's show on Friday night, it's not called Grand Buffet, what's it called?

36:46Grand Poobah Buffet, Golden Corral Buffet, big guys, whatever. Over on Real Time on Friday night, Bill Maher had Jessica Tarlov on. She is a Democrat who's a regular over on Fox. And she tried to explain to Bill that the Democrats are the less crazy party. And even Bill Maher was not having it. I think all these recent elections have been about the Democrats are crazy on social issues. People don't like that. Trump's crazy, but the economy is better. But he doesn't have the economy anymore. I mean, I looked at... And we're less crazy. Who's less crazy? Democrats. You haven't noticed? Have you seen the Democratic...

37:24I haven't. You're being sarcastic. No. No? You think we're less crazy? Maybe not inside, but we're at least, when we go out and give a speech, talking about the economy and corruption. They're communists who think the Islamists are the good guys. Are you kidding? Less crazy? The candidates? Some of the candidates. You're not following the Democratic Socialists of America? I mean, she is just like an utter clown. No wonder she's the Democrat on Fox. Good for Gutfeld gets to smack her around every night. Yeah, the Democrats are less crazy. Gender, are they less crazy on gender? Are they less crazy on modern racism known as DEI?

38:02Let's be racist against whites and Asians and Jews, et cetera. Are they less crazy on borders? And then she claims that the Democrats are talking about fraud. What did she say? Democrats are, was it fraud that she said? Yeah, it's like, what? You are insane. So Bill clearly was not having that. Here's a bit more, and I think you'll appreciate this one because it's something that I like to think that I pushed Bill on in a very successful way. Bill explaining that she, Jessica, would get treated better by conservatives than Dems because she's a purported moderate. When I have pretty much the same experience with the left, I've heard you say it, that you get treated better by the conservatives on The Five than you did by, what podcast were you talking about that you were on?

38:46I was, it wasn't a pod, it was a conference, a live thing called Crooked Con, the guys who do a pod save America. Okay. And I went and was surprised by how far left the activist class had moved. Because I thought that it was a bit like lore from the clips I was seeing, right? Because I see a lot of how the right sees things. surprising to me. I was like, oh, actually there is some kooky stuff, more kooky stuff than I had thought going on here. And I realized that being center left is not good, not good enough. Yeah. I mean, this is like being center left during the French revolution. It doesn't work out very well.

39:32Yeah. Well done, Chris Rufo. Let's get Rufo back on the show. Like that's the point. That is literally what Bill Maher's lived experience is all about. I know a little bit about something trying to be on the center left, trying to be a sane liberal standing up. And what's that phrase? Well, a conservative is just a liberal mugged by reality. So she shows up thinking, I'm a good center lefty. I'm going to the Pod Save America conference. And they're former Obama guys. And everyone's gonna be really nice. And maybe I have one or two thoughts that are a little different, but wait till we see what happens.

40:01And then she got eaten alive. Here's Dave Rubin explaining that exact notion to Bill Maher and it was definitely the first time he had heard it so concisely, what is this five years ago now? Go. And I'm telling you, you could've walked in that audience and people would've, yes, would a certain amount of people have been like, ah, fuck Bill Maher and bleh. But you know what? A lot of people would've been there like, you know what, Bill Maher's here, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Think how different that would be than if you went to an AOC rally where you would be hated beyond imagination.

40:34You're right. I don't mean that as, like, it's just true. It's just true. They're more, the left are more purist. Even the way he said, you're right, and he was leaning in, like, you could see he was getting it, and he subsequently, I'm very, very proud of that moment, right, if I nudged him just a little bit to see something that was vitally important to see. Because there is no center left. If you are on the center left, If you are an old school liberal, you are on the right. Bobby Kennedy, Elon Musk, Bill Maher, Dave Rubin, et cetera. Phoenix is just pointing out that actually that video was recorded four years ago.

41:15That was four years ago yesterday, on the 21st of September, 22. And I think in those four years, wow, we've really seen Bill make a move. Now where Bill will be two days before, what the election's on a Tuesday. So where he will be on his Friday show right before the election, and hopefully giving a last little push for people to maybe vote the right way, we shall see. I won't hold my breath for that, but as you know, I think that what he has done now has become a real net good in waking people up, and you can't get everyone where you want at the exact same time. Let's move on by a quote for a minute and then more on the other side.

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43:03It doesn't mean that some bad things won't happen, but when you figure out how to incorporate it into your life and we figure out how to solve all, literally the rockets and curing cancer and how it will make your job, the mundane tasks easier and people will be able to spend brain power and have time to do other things, I think it's going to be magical. But the Democrats have nothing if they don't have fear. So climate change is not working anymore. The average American is kind of sick of their endless jihad with the Palestine stuff. So they've got to move on. And now it's that Skynet is going to turn on.

43:35And who will save us? Well, of course, it's Bernie Sanders. And if not, if Bernie Sanders can't save us, then for God's sakes, Pete Buttigieg, a man who was mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and then transportation secretary and did nothing. Well, he rode a bike, remember? One time he rode a bike, but it turned out he actually took the truck. And then the truck dropped off the bike and he pretended, but he had the helmet on it. well, he'll save us from the robots. What are your thoughts on AI and how far it's going? And do you feel that we're safe with the AI barriers? No, I don't feel that we're safe.

44:04I think this is a real problem. And even the people running it and controlling it say, this is a real problem. We are worried that we are losing control of our creation. This is exactly what government is for, these situations where you can't just expect one company on its own to put itself at a disadvantage, Even if that's the right thing to do, you can't assume that they will. You make them. You create a set of rules. We're the government, man, and we'll stop these companies. We'll stop them from innovating and doing all those things. Let's pretend for a second that it was 80 years ago and the government was a little more efficient and the government was better and radical ideas had not permeated throughout our culture.

44:49Could you make some argument around certain things, railroad safety, air safety? Like are there arguments to be made about some level of regulation throughout time? The answer probably is yes. I'm not a pure libertarian in that sense. But you people who have lied about everything, who forced people to be injected with something that they didn't want to be injected with so that they could go to work or see their grandmother, you people deserve none of our respect, attention and you certainly don't. Well, we're going to, we're the good guys. We're the good guys. So we will stop the experts in the field from doing what they think.

45:26You know, companies often, guys, competition, one of the things that competition does is it forces companies to behave better because people realize there are other products out there. You guys have a monopoly because you have the guns. And if you are going to, okay, congratulations, Pete Buttigieg, you and Bernie and Elizabeth Warren are gonna go in and you're gonna wander into Anthropic and pull a couple levers and press a couple buttons and stop AI from taking over, well, you know what will happen? You will hand it to China. Jensen Huang, who's just been phenomenal on this, as you know, he is the CEO of NVIDIA.

45:58Here he is pointing out that we have laws. We have laws that will keep people in line. And the last thing we wanna do right now is create a whole new regulatory environment which will actually just stifle creativity and innovation. Go. Why not support the equivalent of an FDA or FAA for AI? Well, before we come up with new new laws and new regulations Let's apply the current laws and the current regulations. There are all kinds of laws and regulations. You know, we live in You know the land of laws and is the reason why we feel safe and secure and governed and and we have all kinds of laws and regulations apply to each and every one of those applications.

46:40Go and read between the lines. They're actually not asking for more laws. They're asking to be relieved of the laws we do have. And I think that that's a problem. We have plenty of laws, so let's apply those first. Right. When he says they there, they're asking to be relieved of the laws we do have. He's talking about all of these companies. They're already liability laws. You create a product that's gonna kill people, hurt people, maim people, et cetera. There are laws that will harm you for doing that. You will lose your company. You will lose business licenses. You will also, the SEC will get involved if you're a public company.

47:14There's a gajillion laws. So there's one issue around that, that we have laws that are applicable here. There's the other issue that, do you think that these wizards in the government, especially after COVID, do you think that Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg know how to do this? That's the second issue. And the third issue, which is the encompassing issue, is that, okay, so even if we could do all of that, and Gavin Newsom wants to literally have an off button, a kill switch for the internet. So if you live in Cali and one day Gavin's like, you know what, they're making fun of me too much. This Dave Rubin guy keeps posting that lizard meme about me.

47:44He's just gonna press the button and shut the internet off. But as Pete said, you know, we have to do it because they're just so great. But the real issue is that then you will hand the future to China and we will all be having number four for breakfast. Here's Scott Besson talking a bit about what's going on with the negotiations around AI in China right now. What came out concrete from your discussions? So it was all day yesterday, Joe. And I think what's important in terms of framing the talks is it all stems from the leader's very good rapport and relationship. President Trump, Xi Jinping, at the personal level, have a very good relationship.

48:25And we try to bring that down to the working level. They both have great respect for each other. We talked about economics. We talked about AI. Then we started an AI dialogue, which I think is going to be very important. And again, this is possible because of the leaders' relationship. The Chinese models are very powerful. Even though they're open models, they are very powerful. The U.S. remains in the lead. And that was a very good acknowledgement that I got from my Chinese counterpart. they agreed that we are in the lead. He's really good. He's competent. He's an excellent communicator. We've been trying to get him on the show.

49:04We're going to double down on that because I would love to have a conversation with him because he actually understands what the issues are. And there he is saying, yeah, we've got a bit of a lead on them right now. We do have that lead and that is good. So if we decide to hamper ourselves, if we decide to take a chisel and chisel away at our Achilles heel and we're about to go in a race, well, you know what's going to happen? Our Achilles heel is going to snap the second the gun goes off, right? And then what happens? Well, they will lap us. And do you want China to lap you in what will be the most important, innovative technological jump in human history?

49:41I would prefer not to, but I know I'm just a right-wing maniac, what am I? Let's do a little bit more on this. You know METR, so METR, M-E-T-R, is an independent nonprofit that evaluates frontier AI safety capabilities. and Anthropic, you may have heard of Meter last week. We talked about them a little bit. Anthropic gives Meter its internal access for third-party testing, but Meter is not part of Anthropic. Now that's, you'll understand why I'm saying that to you when we show you this clip right here. Here's the CEO of Meter. Now again, their company is just to look at these models and is it safe and is it working and we're a third-party company, but here's the CEO of Meter talking about immigration and shocking, shocking, yeah, you got it already, watch.

50:26I'll give you some examples. We still think it's acceptable to bar people from having a particular job or from entering a particular location based on where they happen to be born, their nationality. Is this really acceptable? Well, yeah, it's acceptable. It's called nation states and we have borders, but do you see the problem? So Anthropic was using this third-party testing site to look at their AI called Meter. And there you have the CEO of Meter and she's for open borders. So do you think it might be possible that when they're looking around at what's going on with the AI, that they're manipulating things?

51:05Or God, I have no idea what they could be doing. But the point is that it's all politicized. It's all politicized. And now on top of that, you want to bring in Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders and they'll take care of everything.

51:20of course the other issue here is that these people, they just can't be trusted with anything. Anywhere that the left is, give me a, I should have a, I wish I could do a Javier Malay accent right now, but just anywhere these people are, they ruin everything, everything, everything, everything. So let's jump over to Sueta, Spain, and you know what happened over there when they opened up the border to Morocco and it has been completely taken over and shocking. Yeah, rapes. No, every day.

52:15invaders. Exactly. They go to the hospital, but they don't file a report. Of course, they are mostly people, invaders of theirs and the girls who have come along with them. In fact, they claim that nothing is happening, but they have indeed taken all the girls and women and separated them from the rest to avoid all that. It is a very concerning situation. Okay, so the point of showing you that, and that was obviously an AI translation, the point of showing you that is if you let all these people in, well, shocking, suddenly rapes now three a day, seeing at the to local hospitals there. Surprise, surprise.

52:47And remember, if the Democrats take power in two years from now, border is opened again. What you saw during the Biden administration, the flood of thousands of people just wandering in, and we don't know where the high hell they are right now, what Europe was going through 15 years ago, it will be that on steroids. They will destroy the country overnight. I don't think I am being, I genuinely don't think that is hyperbolic or over the top or anything else. The left across the world has a track record on this stuff and they do things in synchronization. That is what they do. But let's look at it at a more micro level.

53:21Let's jump over to Maryland. Maryland, which is a sanctuary state. Maryland, which is the state where Chris Van Hollen, the senator, went over to El Salvador because the guy who beat his wife with the boot, who was a human trafficker and everything else, he wanted to drink a margarita with him. Some reason Van Hollen never mentioned the woman, all the women that have been raped or the mother, what was the mother's name with the four kids who got killed there? Like these people are just horrible. And of course an illegal who was also an Uber driver just raped a 17 year old in his state. And well, here he goes.

53:54Last week in Maryland, an alleged illegal immigrant who was a rideshare driver was accused of raping a 17 year old girl who was his passenger. The fact is that Homeland Security is saying he was an undocumented immigrant and the Biden administration let him come in in 2023. When you hear this, do you understand how upset this makes people? I understand that, and I think that I want the people of my state to understand that I have no tolerance for violent offenders, period and full stop. Screw you. How's that for analysis? You have a sanctuary state. You have no tolerance. Actually, you have high tolerance.

54:36You have told people who are illegal, come to my state and get stuff. And the people who pay taxes will pay for you to get stuff. So when you say, well, I have no tolerance for the violent criminals, nobody cares. The guy wasn't, perhaps wasn't a violent criminal until he raped the 17 year old girl. Also had to get a job at Uber. But this is what you people have decided and it is scaling across the country. Imagine waking up to this at 6 a.m. because this is what's happening in New York City right now.

55:26So that's New York City and that'll keep happening. It's undoubtedly happening in Dearborn, Michigan and other places. And unless you live in a place where they're going to start putting in serious sound ordinances and everything else, it will, well, it's gonna come to Dallas, we know that, and it'll come to other places too. Should that be legal? Of course not, of course not. What right does someone have to blast music and infringe on your right to happiness? Because I don't think that makes people very happy, but they're taking over and the Democrats want them to take over. And until we decide to be a serious country, and maybe this is, again, I nudged you a little bit at the top, Trump, but I'll nudge you again right now.

56:02Like whether the Democrats win or you win in the midterms or whatever, like you got a lot of work to do and you better do it fast because otherwise we screwed. I had Dominik Tarzynski on the show over the weekend. He's fantastic. I've interviewed him a couple of times before. He's a former member of Polish parliament, likely future member of Polish parliament, currently member of EU parliament. And he did not mince around when it comes to how Poland deals with their borders. My message again, do not come to the Polish border or you will be dead. Shot dead. Do not come to the Polish border. I'm very clear for years.

56:40If you're coming, it's your own risk. Do not cry over that. Do not tell me that you were shot, you were pushed back, whatever, whatever. Do not come. There is no problem. Go to Qatar. There's no problem with that. They speak Arabic. Yeah, go to Qatar, where if you show up in Qatar, they take your passport away and make you a lifelong slave. Tucker Carlson has a house there apparently. I have no problem with that. I know it sounds mean. What if you shoot people? Why would you shoot people? But every country has a right to defend its borders as it sees fit. I think even little pesky Israel in retrospect, had they realized what was going on on their borders, they should have had a policy like that.

57:21North Korea, I'm not defending North Korea right now, but there's a demilitarized zone between North and South Korea. You wander through that, You're gonna get shot from one side or the other. Countries, and then by the way, if you haven't watched the interview, as I say to him, and I do recommend you do, when you send out the signal, don't come to our border or you'll get shot. You know what happens? It's not that you have to shoot a lot of people. People, did you hear what they're doing over at the border over there? I'm not gonna go there because I might get shot. People then auto-correct, they self-correct.

57:50And Poland is now quite literally leading the world even more in Hungary when it comes to protecting its own borders. What's going on in this country? Well, we know if the Democrats get in, it's open season once again. One of the few representatives who I think is just doing an incredible job right now, and he better because Texas is in a lot of trouble with this Tallarico guy and with the amount of mosques that are opening and everything else is Texas representative Brandon Gill, who I think we're getting on the show soon. And here he is with the Democrat policy as it pertains to illegals. Well, I mean, it's what you expect from the party that as a matter of policy brought millions of illegal aliens into our country who just last fall shut down our federal government in order to give health care benefits to those illegal aliens and who are right now suing the federal government, the Trump administration, to give more welfare to illegal aliens.

58:44I mean, what you see anytime there is law enforcement versus the illegal aliens, Democrats will impulsively side with illegal aliens, no matter what the facts are, no matter whether they know the facts or not. And that's what you see right here. It is a party that is fundamentally against law and order, fundamentally against American sovereignty and against the American people. That guy, keep an eye on that guy. I'm telling you, he's got a bright future for the Republican Party. and he says it as he sees it. And of course that's right. This is what the Democrats are and what we need now, more than ever, is more people to wake up.

59:19So the guy who they really woke up by, in essence, stealing that election from him. And when I say steal, on the night of the election in LA, as you know, Spencer Pratt was number two, going to a runoff. A week later, he was out because of the mail-in ballots and Nithya Raman, who conceded in tears on election night, she was back in. Well, they have red-pilled this guy. Well, they also burned his house down and all sorts of stuff, here he is, and he's just fighting and fighting and fighting, and we need more of this. You all keep asking me, oh, now that you didn't win, what are you gonna do? I'm like, I'm gonna fight these people until I go to heaven, because I want...

59:57For real.

1:00:02This...

1:00:07What I try to tell people is America is the greatest place on earth. And we are now in a place where the internet and TV, we allow people just to shame America, talk smack about America. Most of these people just got here and are also living off of America and then saying negative things about America. No more. America is the greatest country in the history of this planet. That's the energy. That's the truth. And we need more of that. And we better freaking get that to scale real quick. We got about six weeks. And I know the last, since I've been back, maybe since August, I've been a little alarmist because I'm really feeling it right now.

1:00:50And I think you're feeling it too. There is a real feeling that these socialists are kind of unstoppable right now. that maybe the messaging out of the Republicans or there's a little fatigue around Trump or something. It is so obvious what the right choice is. It's ridiculous. And you gotta get people out there to vote and fight and wake up. Or we will wake up and we will be Europe. And you do not want to be Europe. Yes, their bread's a little bit better generally, but besides that, it's a pretty screwy place. I thank you for watching. We got a postgame show in 30 seconds at rubinreport.locals.com.

1:01:24And we'll do this again tomorrow. Why not, huh? All right, see ya.

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